waterfall-help

[tough surge]

try switching it out for paper and see if it keeps happening

[fast mesa]

[16:08:33] [Netty Worker IO Thread #20/INFO]: Added cumaliTC to the queue for survival
[16:08:33] [Netty Worker IO Thread #21/INFO]: [/ip|cumaliTC] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [lobby] has disconnected
[16:08:33] [Netty Worker IO Thread #21/INFO]: [/ip|cumaliTC] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [survival] has disconnected

These are the only logs i have, i dont get anyre errors on every server. Not on the proxy, fallback or backend server.

You see that they queue for survival after that the disconnect from the lobby and will be send to the survival server and after that they instantly get disconnected

[royal hawk]

You won't get support for purpur here so please do as Badbird suggested and reproduce on paper, then we can go from there

[reef fulcrum]

The proxy generally doesn't give a single care about the backend

it doesn't have much in terms of state which would be relevant; so, that would generally scream to be a server issue, rather than a proxy one

[fast mesa]

Alright thanks!

[leaden laurel]

im also having this

[wispy nymph]

Hello I have a little problem, I can correctly connect to my forge server [1.19.3] when I don't use Waterfall, but when I setup the proxy I have this error :
[21:58:46 INFO]: [Tweenty_] disconnected with: Kicked whilst connecting to poudlard: This server has mods that require Forge to be installed on the client. Contact your server admin for more details. but I don't change anything 🤔 someone have an idea

[steel surge]

modern forge isn't supported by proxies

[wispy nymph]

Ahhh

Velocity doesn't work also ?

[steel surge]

there's a plugin called ambassador for velocity that can make it work

https://github.com/adde0109/Ambassador

[wispy nymph]

And I can install the latest version of Velocity for the 1.19.3 ?

[steel surge]

the latest builds support all the way up to 1.19.4 so yes

[wispy nymph]

Okay thanks going to try :)

[remote pawn]

anyway to get the latest build for a download link without having to specify the build number?

[reef fulcrum]

no

you'd query the API to get the build number, basically

[misty sundial]

Hello. Is there a way to define multiple lobby servers in the config.yml and to set the priority to lobby-* for lobby-1, lobby-2 and so on?

[reef fulcrum]

no

you'd need a plugin if you want more smarts over that

[misty sundial]

Okay. Do you have an example script?
I currently have MultiLobbyM.

[reef fulcrum]

no

[misty sundial]

Okay no problem still, thank you! 🙂

[shut dagger]

I'm looking for a plugin that would allow for me to have multiple spawns in a server and you will be sent to a different one depending on what NPC you click on in the Hub server... Does anybody know something that does that?

[marble kelp]

sounds more like you want a warp plugin

[shut dagger]

Yes. But cross server

[marble kelp]

well a cross server warp plugin

I have one but that requires redis or mqtt to work properly xD

[shut dagger]

What is it called?

[pulsar summit]

My server is having high latency issue when players are joined

when checking from the server list

it shows normal 25 ms

but when ingame

it shows 150

[marble kelp]

@shut dagger https://github.com/Phoenix616/GlobalWarps/

[shut dagger]

Thanks

[opal schooner]

Internal Exception: io.netty.handler.codec.DecoderException: java.io.IOException: Packet 2/0 (PacketLoginInStart) was larger than I expected, found 17 bytes extra whilst reading packet 0

Getting this error when joining backend server. Anyone got a clue why?

[dark panther]

Hi there, I'm trying to connect two waterfall proxies to the same paper server. I've managed to do this and it works. However, do I need something like redisbungee? Since now, I just copied and pasted all plugins from waterfall server A to B. I can't really find documentation on Redis Bungee. Are there any tips how to do this?

Do I even need redis bungee on can I do it with waterfall alone?

[bitter lark]

you do

it depends

I guess it would work without redis with only 1 server

but if u have like lobby, sur, etc

one player could connect to bungee1 and then another player (same player, another instance of client for example) could connect to bungee2 with same username

which is probably something you wanna prevent, redis is just one of options you could implement it with own plugin

then there's other data like plugin messaging that wouldn't be shared between 2 bungee instances

I don't really know much about bungeeredis cause we went with custom plugin implementation but I think that would be tldr of running multiple bungees

https://github.com/ProxioDev/RedisBungee/wiki I guess

[marble kelp]

RedisBungee doesn't magically make such a setup work, you need compatible plugins that are able to make use of the shared data

[dark panther]

https://mcpaste.com/58b88402420a10cec26fcd959be4d3be

I sometimes get this error on waterfall

[uncut oriole]

Hello, Latest 1.18.2 waterfall i am having issues with the config.json.

Basically, When i start the server, It works. Generates ALL config files as normal, Once i restart for some reason it changes the ip & ports from ints to strings

[21:34:29 ERROR]:       at net.md_5.bungee.conf.YamlConfig.getListeners(YamlConfig.java:275)
[21:34:29 ERROR]:       at net.md_5.bungee.conf.Configuration.load(Configuration.java:92)
[21:34:29 ERROR]:       at io.github.waterfallmc.waterfall.conf.WaterfallConfiguration.load(WaterfallConfiguration.java:67)
[21:34:29 ERROR]:       at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCord.start(BungeeCord.java:279)
[21:34:29 ERROR]:       at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCordLauncher.main(BungeeCordLauncher.java:67)
[21:34:29 ERROR]:       at net.md_5.bungee.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:15)```

One example;

address: 'localhost:25565'

This should be

address: localhost:25565

It adds ` as soon as it starts.

[marble kelp]

you have a string at a place where an integer should be

it saving the address strings in the config to a better string format has nothing to do with it

also please make sure you are running the latest waterfall build

[uncut oriole]

Yes, Thank you for pointing that out. I already knew this.

[21:34:28 INFO]: Enabled Waterfall version git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.18-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:5661172:488

The server is changing it from an int to a string.

address: 'localhost:25565'
- query_port: '25571'
host: '0.0.0.0:25571'

Are all three things that are being changed upon start.

I've set them all to be without '

[marble kelp]

pretty sure the query_port needs to be a number, not a string

[uncut oriole]

Yes, I know this.

It needs to be an int

    address: localhost:25565
  - query_port: 25571
    host: 0.0.0.0:25571

The above is what i set the config.yml to include.

    address: 'localhost:25565'
  - query_port: '25571'
    host: '0.0.0.0:25571'

This is what it sets it to,

[marble kelp]

provide your full config please

(before you start it)

also please test with the latest waterfall build just to be sure that's not a bug which was fixed

there is no reason to run outdated builds

[uncut oriole]

This is the latest build.

https://github.com/PaperMC/waterfall/commit/29f1cfbcc90a0602e803724a2742f9d414976c51

[marble kelp]

that is from 2022

we have 2023

[uncut oriole]

https://papermc.io/downloads/all

It's the latest here,

Under 1.18

[marble kelp]

...

the proxy is compatible with 1.8 to 1.19.4 clients

no idea why they even list legacy waterfall builds

[uncut oriole]

Will try that.

That solved the issue, Should perhaps add a note for the team here though as it's broken.

[marble kelp]

if the latest build works then the issue was already fixed?

[uncut oriole]

After a restart the issue persists :c

[marble kelp]

provide the full config then

and the error with the new version

[uncut oriole]

listeners:
  - query_port: 25571
    motd: '&1Crafting Dead: Dead Island 2.0'
    tab_list: GLOBAL_PING
    query_enabled: false
    proxy_protocol: false
    forced_hosts:
      pvp.md-5.net: pvp
    ping_passthrough: false
    priorities:
      - lobby
    bind_local_address: true
    host: 0.0.0.0:25571
    max_players: 1
    tab_size: 60
    force_default_server: false
remote_ping_cache: -1
network_compression_threshold: 256
permissions:
  default:
    - bungeecord.command.server
    - bungeecord.command.list
  admin:
    - bungeecord.command.alert
    - bungeecord.command.end
    - bungeecord.command.ip
    - bungeecord.command.reload
log_pings: true
connection_throttle_limit: 3
server_connect_timeout: 5000
timeout: 30000
stats: 5dcd06be-ec6e-44f4-9a70-50580f4a6088
player_limit: -1
ip_forward: false
groups:
  md_5:
    - admin
remote_ping_timeout: 5000
connection_throttle: 4000
log_commands: false
prevent_proxy_connections: false
online_mode: true
forge_support: true
disabled_commands:
  - disabledcommandhere
servers:
  lobby:
    motd: '&1Crafting Dead Hub'
    address: 194.156.79.203:25580
    restricted: false
  map:
    motd: '&1Dead Island Map'
    address: 194.156.79.203:25590
    restricted: false

[marble kelp]

I mean ideally as a paste to not annoy discord people but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[uncut oriole]

https://gist.github.com/0xE69/73ca49d7776823aaf63017c7f324c185

This is what it changes it to.

[marble kelp]

try making host a proper string, it might not like the : without indicating that it should be a string

or the query port I guess, maybe it wants that as a string for some reason although I could've sworn that was a number

[uncut oriole]

int queryPort = get( "query_port", 25577, val );

[marble kelp]

yeah, should be a number

[uncut oriole]

It needs to be an int

[marble kelp]

host is a string though so yeah, that might be your issue

[uncut oriole]

String host = get( "host", "0.0.0.0:25577", val ); You're right

[marble kelp]

although your error says that something is a string which should be an integer

(is a string in your config)

[uncut oriole]

GLOBAL_PING should be a string.

It's a shame that this config doesn't default with what it should be.

[marble kelp]

pretty sure it does, never had any issues

[uncut oriole]

It does, Until you restart it.

[marble kelp]

yes, I did that very often in the last years xD

[uncut oriole]

With a fresh install.

First start ^

After a restart, Do not touch any config.

[twin solstice]

you're using a control panel

reproduce without one

pterodactyl modifies config.yml depending on your configuration

[marble kelp]

oh, wow

[twin solstice]

can't reproduce

[marble kelp]

did not expect that lol

[uncut oriole]

Checking.

Running the waterfall egg helped

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-thank-you-so-much-thanks-thanks-so-much-thanks-so-very-much-gif-25337970

[proud olive]

Good afternoon everyone, I really need some help with a problem.

I'm using Waterfall, but it happens that when players try to switch to a server that is currently offline, they get disconnected with a strange error.

This only happens when the server they want to connect to is offline, whatever it is.

Waterfall version git:Waterfall-Bootstrap:1.19-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:dca72c2:511 by md_5

[proud olive]

Oops, i found the cause: ViaBackwards

[novel moon]

hi guys, is there a way to force people join my bungee network using the domain instead of the numbers ip? just like how hypixel does it.

[reef fulcrum]

I mean; That's pretty much going to be down to their protection stuff, not something that is generally worth doing from a plugin

but, plugins can check whatever hostname the client used to connect with, don't know any plugins that do that, however

[novel moon]

i see, thanks for your time, i will look into it

[lusty locust]

[21:50:21 ERROR]: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassCastException: class java.lang.String cannot be cast to class java.util.Map (java.lang.String and java.util.Map are in module java.base of loader 'bootstrap')
[21:50:21 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.conf.YamlConfig.getServers(YamlConfig.java:227)
[21:50:21 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.conf.Configuration.load(Configuration.java:118)
[21:50:21 ERROR]: at io.github.waterfallmc.waterfall.conf.WaterfallConfiguration.load(WaterfallConfiguration.java:67)
[21:50:21 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCord.start(BungeeCord.java:288)
[21:50:21 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCordLauncher.main(BungeeCordLauncher.java:67)
[21:50:21 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:15

[reef fulcrum]

bad config

[gray dirge]

Hello! Any ideas why /server won't work when trying to change servers? :)

Latest version of everything

Bungeecord changed to true in spigot, offline mode set to false, followed guides and tutorials... Unsure what would make it not work lol

[wary rose]

Have you configured your backend servers inside the config.yml?

Example:

  lobby:
    motd: My Lobby Server
    address: lobby server ip here
    restricted: false```

[gray dirge]

I have, yes. We're in the process of updating the servers to 1.19.4 and getting rid of ViaVersion

I followed this guide to the T - https://docs.bloom.host/waterfall/

[wary rose]

Have you enabled bungeecord mode for your backend servers?

[gray dirge]

Yes we enabled bungeecord mode. :). We can connect to them, we just don't have access to the /server command

Everything is running fine... except /server is not functional

[wary rose]

Oh, well i feel like you don't have permission to the command. You need to setup a permissions plugin.

Can't go wrong with Luckperms if you're not using it already.

[gray dirge]

I can try adding it to luckperms

[reef fulcrum]

need to define the nature of "doesn't work"

[gray dirge]

"You do not have permission to execute this command" but we gave ourselves this permission so it's like... 🤯 lol

[reef fulcrum]

on the proxy?

[gray dirge]

Let me check

[reef fulcrum]

like, the backend servers perms are irrelevant to the proxy

(and, you really should be using a perm plugin on the proxy, the built in perms system is trash)

[gray dirge]

Ye... how does one add it to the proxy? /lp editor doesn't work in the command console

[reef fulcrum]

you need luckperms bungee

[gray dirge]

We have luckperms waterfall installed on the proxy

bungee, yes

[reef fulcrum]

that's handled with /lpb unless you have the network setup

[wary rose]

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Network-Installation

There you go. And it's /lpb.

[gray dirge]

okay one sec, thank you

[wary rose]

There's no /op for proxy so you need to manually assign perms.

[gray dirge]

ahhh that makes sense

also, this is constantly playing in my console.. any ideas? (I'm having a helper run the LP editor commands as we do this, as well)

^endless IP addresses

done on the proxy...

and fallback seems to be ... not working. Turn off server A, players don't get sent to server B. Is that a separate thing? (Sorry, we swapped from Velocity for compatibility reasons and we didn't have these issues prior LOL) :)

[reef fulcrum]

fallback doesn't handle a server closing

you'd need a plugin for that

[gray dirge]

That's fair, must have been a velocity built in function

Thanks for the help :)

[reef fulcrum]

your DNS is borked

[tight token]

How can i fix that?

[reef fulcrum]

depends on how you're hosting the server

[tight token]

on a hosting site

[reef fulcrum]

speak to your host

[queen sequoia]

Hi. Anyone seen this message before?
I started my server after 1 1/2 weeks and now I cant connect. Before that there was no problems (i didnt changed anything since that):

[queen sequoia]

Edit: This message appears even on newest version of Waterfall. Can anyone please help?🙏

[reef fulcrum]

I don't speak whatever that is

but that just looks like a generic network connection issue

[queen sequoia]

I found the mistake. Im stupid sometimes. There is my mumble server running on same port (dont know why yet)🙈

But I wonder why the waterfall throws no error.... normally it should end with an error or am i wrong?

[reef fulcrum]

depends on how you're running stuff

[queen sequoia]

hmm okay, but at least everything works fine now and i did updates ^^

[oblique fjord]

hi,
when I switch from one server to another I get the following message in console, it only happens with version waterfall-1.19-514 onwards of Waterfall, when 1.19.4 is supported

encountered exception: net.md_5.bungee.util.QuietException: Unexpected packet received during server login process!```

[ivory egret]

ok so i know there is a issue with my config but I'm clueless to what the issue is. Its fine if i only have two servers but as soon as I add the third

[ivory egret]

also how do i config the fallback

[reef fulcrum]

fallback no longer exists, it's a priority list now which it tries to connect you to in order

[buoyant spindle]

hello. This is my memory graph from my waterfall. It is 7-days long. Have I memory leak? Why used memory is bigger and bigger?

[barren dirge]

I don't use waterfall but that looks pretty normal for memory usage.

[buoyant spindle]

more and more? few more days and I would have big problem

[barren dirge]

Are you restarting the proxy periodically?

I'm trying to check how we handle it but my ftp isn't working for some reason.

[buoyant spindle]

no, I am not restarting it.

[barren dirge]

Thats probably the cause, we restart the proxy every day, same time we restart the servers

[buoyant spindle]

yes but this is not a solution :/ The proxy should work many months without problems. If it can't - there is memory leak probably

[barren dirge]

Potentially yes, but I wouldn't know how to trace one.

I can see that someone suggested a heap dump, did you ever end up making one?

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, it's java; memory usage is complex, unless you're actually running out, it's probably not an issue

[marble kelp]

memory is literally not getting "bigger and bigger" in the screenshot...

[barren dirge]

Well there is a growing gap between the used and free so I think its very gradually using more memory.

[buoyant spindle]

I thought that free memory would be the same when there is the same amount of players. I mean memory usage slowly grows up (as you can see in the screenshot) but at nights I have 1-10 players only, at evening 50-100 but memory still grows up

[marble kelp]

there is only an issue once you notice that the garbage collector is not able to clean up its stuff

(or it crashes of course)

you might want better stats than just used and free though. e.g. the actual G1GC spaces (you can get those via jmx)

e.g. I have graphs like this: https://i.moep.tv/gH7AI1go.png

I should probably set those up for the proxy too, lol

[buoyant spindle]

Where can I get those graphs?

[reef fulcrum]

munin

[marble kelp]

I would suggest graphana nowadays though

[buoyant spindle]

yes, I am using grafana. Mine graph is from graphana

[oblique salmon]

Hello! I wanted to ask you a question. At the time of entering my server, it does not let me enter, it gives me a message of "Login to Minecraft.net". I don't understand why it gives me that error when I have bought minecraft for years

PS: Until yesterday everything worked correctly.

[nimble ember]

restart your game + launcher

[oblique salmon]

I did it like 23 times

[simple moat]

Do you have geyser/floodgate installed as well?

[oblique salmon]

Yes

[simple moat]

if you have both geyser AND floodgate installed, try going to your geyser config and set auth-type to floodgate. reboot everything and retest.

if you're missing geyser or floodgate, get it downloaded

[oblique salmon]

Okey, when I return to home I try it

Thanks!

[simple moat]

np, good luck

[oblique salmon]

Hello, I updated geyser itself, but it still gives the error.
PS: I don't have Floodgate, only geyser in the proxy

I think the problem is something from fastlogin + waterfall

I don't think it's a problem with the geyser itself

no

[tidal musk]

Tbh, I don‘t get why people hate so much on cracked servers

Minecraft already has made billions of dollars

Microsoft forcing people to use microsoft accounts has already made the game worse

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, you're not owed support; people generally don't wanna support offline mode users

[tidal musk]

Yeah I don‘t get that

[reef fulcrum]

personally, I just have a lot of bad experiences supporting offline mode server owners and would rather shoot myself in the foot than deal with it

[tidal musk]

I see

If it would be a small game which actually needs the Money, I would totally understand it

But meh, I have bought the Game so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[reef fulcrum]

The people who run in offline mode often rely on plugins which are known to cause issues

are often more likely to put themselves into positions where they're attacked by bots, many of which are often more easily thwarted by simply online-mode=true

and are generally more likely to actually steal from the community or just generally be entitled af

all of those are reasons why people generally don't wanna care to deal with people running in offline mode, outside of the refusal to support mojang

[marble kelp]

it also violates Discord ToS :)

[simple moat]

Add floodgate, it will get rid of the login requirement

[marble kelp]

it potentially also breaks plugins lol

[simple moat]

one way to find out ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[marble kelp]

try removing FastLogin, that might be incompatible with geyser

(as it potentially hacks the same internal stuff)

[meager dagger]

Hello fellas!

I had a few servers under one waterfall on the same host, but now I've shifted one backend-server to another host.
So in a waterfall config, I've just set up another ip:port and all works fine.

But now I'm interested, is there a way so players can join that "external" server via direct IP?

[twin solstice]

don't

[tough vale]

If it is, you need to close it off ASAP. Having an unprotected backend server means malicious players can join under any username including those with owner permissions.

[twin solstice]

that

[meager dagger]

Like, I had a plugins for Auth, plugin with permissions that are prohibiting player from doing anything before "joining server", and my own plugin and backend db that mange players gamemode and possible commands to enter. So..
Anyway, I hear you 🙂
Thanks ❤️

[kindred umbra]

Hi, I'm running a Waterfall proxy with SkinsRestorer, but when I try to apply a skin, it doesn't change right away, instead I have to relog to see it change, I remember it being instant, do I need to do something specific for this functionality?

[tough vale]

piracy

[twin solstice]

regardless of piracy or not

ask skinsrestorer

[kindred umbra]

why would everyone assume I myself am I pirate just because I use skinsrestorer

happens all the time I mention having a server in offline mode

[twin solstice]

well, is your proxy in offline mode

[tough vale]

It's mainly used for offline mode, though at least skinrestorer does have some valid uses

[kindred umbra]

Yes it is

[twin solstice]

sounds like piracy to me

[tough vale]

oh well your server being offline is a dead giveaway for piracy in 99.9999% of cases

[kindred umbra]

Well if you mean it like that, then yeah, that's valid call

Somehow in my own and basically all neighbor countries you'd find that 90% of all players simply don't pay for the game, it's basically a standard to have your server in offline mode here

[twin solstice]

yes we've heard all of the arguments in the past 10 years

not up for discussion

regardless of your issue, ask skinsrestorer, it's unlikely to be a waterfall issue

[kindred umbra]

I'm not trying to change your mind, just chatting

[tough vale]

https://f.u11.io/7sFzT5

[kindred umbra]

You know that's an actual thing here in Slovakia, Czechia, Ukraine, Poland and other countries like that? It's really only few people who end up buying the game and to be honest I don't even know why, most likely something along the lines "why tho"

Anyways, I have checked out the SkinsRestorer discord and it looks like this issue started occurring since Paper 1.19.3 #443, after which updating the skin required relogging. Although I only have the plugin on Waterfall, since the #444/#443 update was targeted at game profile stuff, I assume similar changes have been applied to Waterfall, or not?

[twin solstice]

waterfall gets practically 0 updates other than maintenance ones

probably doesn't need that gameprofile change

[kindred umbra]

I see, yeah, there isn't even a mention such change in the changelogs

Well that's weird

[orchid barn]

Getting disconnects when loading chunks. This is the error in waterfall: could not decode packet! net.md_5.bungee.jni.NativeCodeException: Unknown z_stream return code : -3

Any ideas?

[reef fulcrum]

something broke a compressed packet

[orchid barn]

any idea what would cause that?

[reef fulcrum]

generally bad plugins

sometimes janky network gear depending on the setup

[orchid barn]

Any debug config settings I can enable to try to narrow it down @reef fulcrum ?

[reef fulcrum]

no

[orchid barn]

Servers have no plugins on them and it's still happening. Apparently unrelated to chunk loading

[reef fulcrum]

No idea, all I can see is that we got a corrupted compressed stream

[orchid barn]

What causes these packets to be sent? Just trying to figure out where this is coming from

There's no config settings anywhere that I can increase to try to resolve this?

[reef fulcrum]

packets are sent from the server

No, theres no options that corrupt the data stream

[orchid barn]

What are the potential things that would corrupt it?

[reef fulcrum]

no idea

as said, it's generally stuff messing with packets

be that software installed on the server, or even weird network setups

We have 0 way to debug what is corrupting the datastream that is being shoved into us

[orchid barn]

Interesting so it's potentially not even related to Waterfall/Paper?

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, you could try disabling compression; theres like, 2 reports of this issue, primary one being a ticket on bungeecord relating to md5s zlib thing

https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/issues/1567

He did recently mess with that native again, idk how it would cause issues, but, you generally should just disable compression on the backend server anyways

[orchid barn]

Worth a shot at this point.

Would that just be server.properties network-compression-threshold=-1? @reef fulcrum

Just realized your name says no ping

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[orchid barn]

Alright. It looks like that fixed it™️

Ty for the help with that

[dense cloud]

how do i download?

[wary rose]

https://papermc.io/downloads/waterfall

[reef fulcrum]

waterfall and folia are unrelated

the proxy is still just a proxy

[mint ice]

Hi not sure if this is the right place for this but i just updated a few jar files on a server and this comes up if i try and log in not sure if its waterfall,floodgate or viaversion that is the cause any ideas?

[rigid jasper]

@mint ice That's appears to just be a client version issue..

Make sure your viaversion is up-to-date on all servers (or exclusively the proxy server), if you're trying to support newer versions on an older host.

[lavish valve]

why does it not work?
( address of lobby: "unix:/home/markustieger/Downloads/uds-test/Lobby/lobby.sock" )

(I am trying to use an unix domain socket instead of an tcp address)

( Update: It's not working on normal bungeecord either )

( Velocity fails to parse the address )

[twin solstice]

bungeecord/waterfall has never had support for it

velocity only had support for it in the polymer branch but that is severely outdated by now

[lavish valve]

if (this.getLocalIp().startsWith("unix:")) {
            if (!io.netty.channel.epoll.Epoll.isAvailable()) {
                DedicatedServer.LOGGER.error("**** INVALID CONFIGURATION!");
                DedicatedServer.LOGGER.error("You are trying to use a Unix domain socket but you're not on a supported OS.");
                return false;
            } else if (!io.papermc.paper.configuration.GlobalConfiguration.get().proxies.velocity.enabled && !org.spigotmc.SpigotConfig.bungee) {
                DedicatedServer.LOGGER.error("**** INVALID CONFIGURATION!");
                DedicatedServer.LOGGER.error("Unix domain sockets require IPs to be forwarded from a proxy.");
                return false;
            }
            bindAddress = new io.netty.channel.unix.DomainSocketAddress(this.getLocalIp().substring("unix:".length()));

Why does then these lines exists?
( Esspecialy the condition if it uses velocity or bungeecord )

-> https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/master/patches/server/0623-Add-Unix-domain-socket-support.patch

[twin solstice]

paper has unix socket support

the proxies you have mentioned do not

[lavish valve]

which proxies do support it then?

[twin solstice]

no idea

velocity was the only one that supported it for a while on the polymer branch, but that's not usable

[lavish valve]

I wonder why there is no more support for this branch?

[twin solstice]

because polymer was highly experimental and the author isn't around that often

and besides if you value performance to the point you'd use unix sockets

don't use waterfall or bungeecord

[lavish valve]

ok, but other question, when it was never supported by bungeecord, why is it then in the javadoc?

-> https://jd.papermc.io/waterfall/1.19/net/md_5/bungee/api/config/ServerInfo.html

[twin solstice]

i might be wrong then

[lavish valve]

ok

[twin solstice]

yeah it was added 3 years ago as "beta support" and no one has probably ever used it

https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/issues/3259

[meager dagger]

Hello there!

I have a few requests from friends to create the latest snapshot server, so we can have some fun with this cool 1st april snapshot together.

And I’m trying to understand is it possible to include that server into my already created bungee-network.

I have a main pufferfish-backend server, where all my players log-in through AuthMeReloaded (because we have our own website with some functionality so we need such an extra-login-system).

I guess, I can just launch a new snapshot-server (like, completely vanilla server, since I’m not sure there are a non-vanilla snapshot server cores, right?), and I can just add it to my waterfall config, and use tp command to send player to that snapshot-server. Or I can’t? Does complete vanilla support the ip-forwarding that bungee require?

But the main issue now in my thoughts is, how to let players come back to my main server?

I have two main servers: it is two linked survival servers, and when player quit one of them, they re-join to the server they quit from. That’s why I see a problem, since the player would not have any way to return from the snapshot-server, since it is a vanilla, and there are no tp command.

So.. do you have any ideas how I can reach my goal?

[reef fulcrum]

waterfall doesn't support snapshots

you'd need to run it outside of the proxy

[twin solstice]

authme
smells like piracy

[lavish valve]

Do you think, that when i make a pull request for unix socket support, that it will be merged?

[twin solstice]

waterfall is practically maintenance only

you'd be better off just pr'ing it into velocity

[lavish valve]

Do you think that this will be merged then?

( for velocity )

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, looks like a quick 2 second bug fix, just would need to test it, etc, etc

as for velocity, I think that the issue was breaking the API or something

[lavish valve]

theoretically i am finished, but he does not find this class, whereas my ide does not show any problems.

[reef fulcrum]

best guess is check the java version

eerrrr

ha

[lavish valve]

hmm, javadoc says, the class exists since java 16, but the project is java 11 and my ide finds it still. 🤔

[reef fulcrum]

that's fucked

waterfall targets java 8

so, that won't work

[lavish valve]

velocity targets java 11 (where i am coding this)

and doesn't work either

wait, i think i am in the wrong channel

[reef fulcrum]

see java --version but, er

and, yea, wc

[lavish valve]

i guess i have to use io.netty.channel.unix.DomainSocketAddress

[lavish valve]

I've created the pull request:
https://github.com/PaperMC/Velocity/pull/991

But i think i must create another on paper:

[misty sundial]

Hello. Can I somehow disable the "priorities:" list in the config.yml?

Other question, can I set it so that I always get on another server from the priorities list and not in order?

[reef fulcrum]

Waterfall/bungee just uses that as a list

If you need a different behaviour, use a plugin

[small lintel]

Just looking for a quick 2 cents opinion from someone or some people - I was looking at Velocity and Waterfall, though the rabbit hole goes deep when I search for alternative forks of Bungee - IE: Flamecord.
Does Waterfall fix apparent "exploits" that are open in BungeeCord?
Is the performance of Waterfall better than that of Bungee?
Waterfall versus other forks? Is Waterfall the best option I should choose with my Paper server?
Can Bungee plugins be converted to Velocity easily, or is it a completely different system?

Would sincerely appreciate some clarification, much love, thanks in advance! 🙂

[reef fulcrum]

weterfall fixes some stuff but theres only so much you can do with such bad architecture

velocity is a much better option vs waterfall or any forks as it actually fixes the architectural issues involved

[small lintel]

I see - that's what I've gathered thus far. It has been a few years since I setup a server w/ Bungee - so I can't remember exactly how Bungee (and its derivatives) hooks itself into the system & how plugins interact. I understand that Velocity will act as the proxy server, whereby you connect to the Velocity server, and from there, you can be forwarded to other worlds.

Plugins which are compatible with Bungee, won't obviously work out of the box with Velocity.

That leads me to ask, is the architecture of Velocity somewhat compatible with Bungee plugins with a simple re-code?

I'm getting into Java development, and can work my way around Java, so if it's not too complex, then I don't mind rewriting code, but if it's going to be a HUGE task, then I'd have to toss up the functionality and plugin availability between WF & Velocity.

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, there are changes to the API, no team API, etc, but it's generally the concept of: it's a proxy

the architectural stuff isn't as exposed to plugins outside of events being async or not, but even there that doesn't change too much

[small lintel]

It's late here now, my brain isn't functioning lol.. But do you have a couple of quick examples (names of plugins) which require Bungee (Or Waterfall) for compatibility? Advanced Portals would be an example, which is compatible with Bungee to teleport between worlds using portals. I suppose I ask this just so I can wrap my head around whether or not I should invest the time in Velocity.

[marble kelp]

their architecture is extremely similar and you can easily convert plugins that only use normal API stuff

[small lintel]

Great, that clarifies!

I'll look at some Velocity-plugin code to get a gist of how things work, if this is definitely the best option over other Bungee forks.

Everyone seems to have their own opinions on the "best" proxy lol.. most of which are paid Bungee forks 🤦‍♂️

"Opinions are like arseholes, in that everyone has one."

[marble kelp]

I mean they want to sell a product...

[small sigil]

How to solve this problem? It only appears when I turn on "ip_forward" for Waterfall and "BungeeCord" for spigot.

[valid crypt]

Hello, I am using waterfall latest version, although the server is open, I get the error "The server you were previously on went down, you have been connected to a fallback server".

[marble kelp]

does it say that you tried to join in the Minecraft server?

[valid crypt]

I have a code that transfers to another server when I right click on the npc, it happens when I right click on the npc.

i can join with /server knockbackffa

        if (npc.getId() == 1) {
            ByteArrayDataOutput out = ByteStreams.newDataOutput();
            out.writeUTF("Connect");
            out.writeUTF("knockbackffa");
            player.sendPluginMessage(Main.instance, "BungeeCord", b.toByteArray());
        }

this.getServer().getMessenger().registerOutgoingPluginChannel(this, "BungeeCord");

[marble kelp]

what does the proxy and the target server log say?

[valid crypt]

[21:34:57 WARN]: [/127.0.0.1:64126|ikilledyourdad] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [lobby] - EOFException: null

[valid crypt]

i dont get log from target server

[marble kelp]

odd

have you tried using ConnectOther?

[valid crypt]

let me try

[21:43:08 WARN]: [/127.0.0.1:64430|ikilledyourdad] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [lobby] - EOFException: null
[21:43:08 INFO]: [ikilledyourdad] disconnected with: The server you were previously on went down, you have been connected to a fallback server

[marble kelp]

very strange, try delaying it by a tick

some events happen at an unfortunate time and the client might not like the world change

[valid crypt]

still same error

i put 1 sec delay

and I think I asked on the wrong channel, would it be better to write #waterfall-dev?

[marble kelp]

ah, I guess but it would probably be the same people xD

but yes, ask there too and maybe show more of your listener code

[valid crypt]

public class NpcClickEvent implements Listener {

    ByteArrayOutputStream b = new ByteArrayOutputStream();
    DataOutputStream out = new DataOutputStream(b);

    @EventHandler
    public void npcClickEvent(net.citizensnpcs.api.event.NPCRightClickEvent event) {
        NPC npc = event.getNPC();
        Player player = event.getClicker();

        if (npc.getId() == 1) {
            ByteArrayDataOutput out = ByteStreams.newDataOutput();
            out.writeUTF("ConnectOther");
            out.writeUTF("knockbackffa");
            player.sendPluginMessage(Main.instance, "BungeeCord", b.toByteArray());
        }
    }
}

[marble kelp]

well, I don't know what citizens might do there so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

maybe you need to even ask them directly lol

[valid crypt]

okay thank you

[royal hawk]

You realize you're sending the empty output stream b you've defined as class variable...?

You shouldn't ever re-use buffers and out/input streams btw

If you change it to out.toByteArray() then it'll work

[valid crypt]

hmmmmm

yeah my bad

ty

[royal hawk]

also

ConnectOther is for connecting players that aren't the one you want to use

If the player is the one you want to use just use Connect

ConnectOther needs two fields:
username
servername

Connect only needs one:
servername

[valid crypt]

yep

its worked now

[valid crypt]

i getting this error
https://hastebin.com/share/iqafisofeb.ruby

my code

public class CommandManager extends Command {


    public CommandManager(String name, String permission, String... aliases) {
        super(name, permission, aliases);
    }

    public void execute(CommandSender sender, String[] args) {
        ProxiedPlayer player = (ProxiedPlayer) sender;
        ServerInfo server = ProxyServer.getInstance().getServerInfo("lobby");
        if (args[0].equalsIgnoreCase("hub")) {
            player.connect(server);
        } else if (args[0].equalsIgnoreCase("lobi")) {
            player.connect(server);
        }
    }
}

    @Override
    public void onEnable() {
        getProxy().getPluginManager().registerListener(this, this);
        getProxy().getPluginManager().registerCommand(this, new CommandManager("hub", "sm.command.hub","lobby", "lobi"));
    }

[reef fulcrum]

You're assuming that they provided an argument, they didn't, so the args list is 0 length

||check the size of the array befooree you access it||

[valid crypt]

uhm can you send example?

[reef fulcrum]

No

Check the size of the args array befooree you access it

Also

Pretty sure you're assuming that the command is considered an argument, but it's not

You'd need separate commands if you care about the command name being unique

[valid crypt]

oh

Okay, I got it, thank you.

[ivory egret]

is there a limit to how many servers can be linked to waterfall

[lime dove]

How to hide tap command proxy?

[green linden]

When i try to start my Waterfall server it just says.

[09:27:50 ERROR]: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassCastException: java.lang.String cannot be cast to java.lang.Boolean
[09:27:50 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.conf.YamlConfig.getServers(YamlConfig.java:231)
[09:27:50 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.conf.Configuration.load(Configuration.java:118)
[09:27:50 ERROR]: at io.github.waterfallmc.waterfall.conf.WaterfallConfiguration.load(WaterfallConfiguration.java:67)
[09:27:50 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCord.start(BungeeCord.java:288)
[09:27:50 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.BungeeCordLauncher.main(BungeeCordLauncher.java:67)
[09:27:50 ERROR]: at net.md_5.bungee.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:15)

And doesnt work, how do i fix it?

[lost river]

You broke your proxy config, probably in the server section.

java.lang.String cannot be cast to java.lang.Boolean
that looks like you put a string somewhere where you should only put a boolean, so probably the restricted property for a server.
Make sure that for every server in the config, the value behind restricted: is true or false.

[green linden]

Found it, thank you so much for the help!

[lapis tundra]

Hey, I keep getting this error using 1.19 waterfall.

Error occurred processing connection for umvrr AnnotatedConnectException : finishConnect(..) failed: Connection refused: /127.0.0.1:25568

[umvrr] disconnected with: Could not connect to a default or fallback server. Incorrectly configured address/port/firewall?

[icy pike]

[12:04:54 INFO]: Enabled plugin reconnect_yaml version git:reconnect_yaml:1.16-R0.5-SNAPSHOT:47fa16d:431 by WaterfallMC
[12:04:54 INFO]: Enabled plugin cmd_find version git:cmd_find:1.16-R0.5-SNAPSHOT:47fa16d:431 by WaterfallMC
[12:04:54 INFO]: Enabled plugin cmd_server version git:cmd_server:1.16-R0.5-SNAPSHOT:47fa16d:431 by WaterfallMC
[12:04:54 INFO]: Enabled plugin cmd_alert version git:cmd_alert:1.16-R0.5-SNAPSHOT:47fa16d:431 by WaterfallMC
[12:04:54 INFO]: Enabled plugin cmd_send version git:cmd_send:1.16-R0.5-SNAPSHOT:47fa16d:431 by WaterfallMC
[12:04:54 INFO]: Enabled plugin cmd_list version git:cmd_list:1.16-R0.5-SNAPSHOT:47fa16d:431 by WaterfallMC
[12:04:55 INFO]: Listening on /0.0.0.0:25565
[12:05:19 INFO]: [/88.127.122.:47080] <-> InitialHandler has connected
[12:05:34 INFO]: [/87.66.1055:28781] <-> InitialHandler has connected
[12:05:35 INFO]: [/88.127.122.***:47080|AtsukiMC] -> UpstreamBridge has disconnected

i cant setup waterfall on my server it dosent connect me to the lobby server or it just time out

can some one help me

[twin solstice]

sounds like a severely outdated version of waterfall

update to the latest version first

[vivid fractal]

Hello, how can I change this to the standard ping bar?

Something like that

well, it is already installed

And I have no problems with entering any servers

[buoyant spindle]

after 7 days without restart I ran out of the memory, average 50-70 players. Is it nor normal, right?

[reef fulcrum]

No, running out of memory is not normal

[buoyant spindle]

this is not an attack becouse (as we can see on the screenshot above) the memory slowly increased, not fast. Am I right?

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, I can only see what that grapth shows me, and I'm not going to piss in the wind

We also get back to the nature of the OOM

given that there are various forms of different OOMs, what one was tripped is important

[silver crescent]

Question: Has anyone experienced problems with the bungees (waterfall) starting to get heavy loads and lagging when many players are close together? Does anyone know and does anyone have a solution?
1.19.3 Paper i use on Server and current version of waterfall

30-40 player stay on one point, bungees are lagging and full CPU load

[reef fulcrum]

you could see if increasing the netty thread count helps

also, disable entity metadata rewriting in the waterfall config if you've not already

[silver crescent]

ok i test thx

ok metadata false. who are the netty thread?

[reef fulcrum]

that's in config.yml iirc

[faint blade]

Hey, I have a waterfall proxy for my server network, I am looking for a way to add a new server which is running fabric, how do I achieve this?

[reef fulcrum]

use velocity

[leaden stone]

https://mclo.gs/akYLJ0R

Anyone have any idea what the errors in this log could be from? We had a moment where about 15-20 players just got kicked from the server.

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, you're saying everybody got booted

and you had a DNS lookup failure

one would hazard a guess that you had a network issue

[leaden stone]

Would I be able to control or mitigate that? I run a hetzner dedicated machine?

Also I run 2 proxies and I'm apparently experiencing this issue only on one of the proxies. they're both waterfall and same plugins, but listening on 2 different dedicated IPs

[native juniper]

Is bungeeguard necessary to use if I'm using waterfall?

[craggy trout]

Use a proper firewall i guess

[chilly hatch]

For anyone that needs it

[wicked tusk]

I think you should make the red text darker, its too easy to read

[chilly hatch]

lol

[shrewd briar]

what is best plugin antibot for waterfall

[bronze arch]

Online mode

[sick violet]

waterfall config documentation? the one on paper's website seems hella outdated

[twin solstice]

what part of it is outdated

not much has realistically changed in waterfall or bungeecord in the last 6 years

[sick violet]

https://docs.papermc.io/waterfall/configuration#game_version

[twin solstice]

seems valid?

[sick violet]

game_version is not present on waterfall config nowadays

[reef fulcrum]

it is

[sick violet]

and there are points missing

[twin solstice]

uh, should be

it's in waterfall's own config

not config.yml

[sick violet]

where? got me a fresh installation

geez

shame on me

so config.yml is for bungee? hmmm much clear now, thanks for making me figure it out

[thorn viper]

Hello I have a problem the lobby is without mods if I then enter /server do the error message?

[green chasm]

Hier wird nur Support in Englisch Akzeptiert

[thorn viper]

ok

[craggy trout]

Modern forge is unsupported, use ligthfall (waterfall fork) or velocity and ambassador

[golden jackal]

why when I join to waterfall server I join to server frow what I left last time and not to priority server ?

[royal hawk]

You don't have force default enabled in the config

[golden jackal]

thx

[steel raft]

i setup waterfall and i have 3 servers in total. however, when i'm in hub and trying to connect to creative, it says 'you are already connected to this server' how do i fix this? it worked fine yesterday, but it doesn't seem to work now and i didn't change anything

[spare apex]

do you perhaps have correct ip addresses for the servers?

[steel raft]

all of the ip addresses are correct, as i said it worked yesterday so it's all correct

[steel raft]

i fixed it 👍

[steel raft]

nvm it just keeps breaking lol, anyone that can help with that?

[steel raft]

am i gonna receive any help at all or nah

[twin solstice]

you're not entitled to support

patience is key

[reef fulcrum]

Don't have enough info and stuff like that is generally a pita to diagnose

99% of cases like that are generally down to weird networking setups or plugins

(The thing is just comparing the network socket address, i.e. the port/io combo)

[merry root]

I cannot send messages with waterfall anymore. All is deprecated. If i use the old Bungeecord TextComponent.fromLegacyText() it is deprecated. I cannot even use the adventure api

can someone help me why i cannot use both?

[reef fulcrum]

waterfall doesn't have adventure

if you want that, you'd need the adventure-platform

guessing that if you're seeing that, you have a multi-project

in which case, you're seeing the deprecated bungee-chat module that paper has

[merry root]

https://docs.advntr.dev/migration/bungeecord-chat-api.html But why this and why is the BungeeCord chat stuff deprecated?

[merry root]

Yes i have a plugin that is also for bungeecord

[reef fulcrum]

Because you have papers bungeecord-chat in the project

papers bungee-chat module has that stuff deprecated

[merry root]

and how i can solve that?

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, i'd suggest using adventure-platform on bungee and shading that into your own plugin

otherwse, generally, all I can really say is to just ignore the deprecation, otherwise you'd need to exclude it from paper-api

[merry root]

so adding adventure to my project-dependencies will work?

[reef fulcrum]

you can use the adventure-platform project stuff to use adventure Audiences, etc, on waterfall

[merry root]

i want to use adventure Minimessages, Components and so on because i like it

Like paper

[reef fulcrum]

so, yea, then use the aventure-platform-bungeecord or whatever it was

you'll need to shade that stuff into the waterfall plugin, however

[merry root]

i can do that by adding it to the libraries thingy in plugin.yml so it will be automatically downloaded.

is there a tutorial in how i can use adventure with waterfall

[reef fulcrum]

https://docs.advntr.dev/platform/bungeecord.html

[merry root]

ok in the time i read into this i can use the old stuff. will the deprecation go if i exclude it from paper?

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[merry root]

simple exclude in my pom?

[reef fulcrum]

yes, in the dependency for paper, add an exclusionfor the bungee-chat module

[merry root]

i think it is this:

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[merry root]

ok it worked well thank you very much for helping me

[tidal musk]

Could not connect to a default or fallback server. Incorrectly configured address/port/firewall? ConnectTimeoutException : connection timed out:

How to make proxy on same ip as with server with waterfall/Bungeecord

[reef fulcrum]

depends on the setup, if using a shared host, glhf/speak to the host, if ptero, see pins; otherwise, use the 127.0.0.1 interface for the servers

[placid bear]

Hi do you know why i timeout everytime when i activate IP forwarding in my waterfall and bungeecord in my magma conf

[placid bear]

in spigot.yml (magma)

  bungeecord: true

in config.yml (waterfall)

ip_forward: true

[misty sundial]

placeholder

[placid bear]

?

[misty sundial]

Oh sorry, it's a mistake

[placid bear]

okay np

[reef fulcrum]

the forwarding option just modifies the handshake packet to include some data

that generally shouldn't break stuff given that waterfall has the fix which lets FML + that token work together

assuming magma has that fix on their side too, idk

given that it breaks, it's probs a magma issue, but 🤷‍♂️

[placid bear]

thank bro

[leaden stone]

what plugin(s) do you guys use to thwart bot attacks. I'm getting this bot attack where random bedrock players join and spam in chat. Is there a way I can mitigate this?

[wicked tusk]

online mode?

[leaden stone]

yes

[wicked tusk]

well unless theres some identifying metric or pattern to those players its gonna be difficult

you checked if their IPs are the same?

or if they're all from a certain region

because then you can ban that

[loud kettle]

Hey, can anyone tell me how to get rid of this by any chance ? https://paste.medaria.de/xerifigida.properties

[crimson locust]

When I install waterfall, it throws it to the last server I was on, but I want it to throw it to the authme server (always) (its ip-forward=true)

[forest mica]

force_default_server: true in config.yml

[crimson locust]

thanks

[pliant flame]

hey so my bungee server works for me but others can not connect.

sos lol

[wicked tusk]

theres a lot of missing information

but it looks like you need to port forward

[pliant flame]

i did for 3 different ports.

waterfall-25560 world_1-25561 world_2-25562

[wicked tusk]

do you have a bind ip set in your server config?

[tulip surge]

config.yml by @pliant flame: https://pastes.dev/uSR19uVrZb

[wicked tusk]

bind_local_address: true
uh

ive never used waterfall but im guessing you should turn that off

and set the host to 0.0.0.0:x

by putting a local ip there, you are restricting access to only local clients

[wicked tusk]

(replace x with your port)

[pliant flame]

k trying to run it now.

[wicked tusk]

^

so probably 0.0.0.0:25560 in your case

[pliant flame]

so it opened it for me but still didnt allow a friend in

[wicked tusk]

google port checker and put your IP in

see if its actually open

[pliant flame]

oh it is open, they can join my main paper server

nvm they were closed >.>

[ancient orchid]

java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect
        at java.base/sun.nio.ch.Net.connect0(Native Method)
        at java.base/sun.nio.ch.Net.connect(Net.java:579)
        at java.base/sun.nio.ch.Net.connect(Net.java:568)
        at java.base/sun.nio.ch.NioSocketImpl.connect(NioSocketImpl.java:588)
        at java.base/java.net.Socket.connect(Socket.java:633)
        at java.base/java.net.Socket.connect(Socket.java:583)
        at java.base/sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(NetworkClient.java:183)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(HttpClient.java:498)

        at java.base/sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(HttpClient.java:603)

        at java.base/sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.<init>(HttpClient.java:246)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(HttpClient.java:351)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(HttpClient.java:373)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getNewHttpClien
t(HttpURLConnection.java:1309)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.plainConnect0(H
ttpURLConnection.java:1242)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.plainConnect(Ht
tpURLConnection.java:1128)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(HttpURL
Connection.java:1057)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream0
(HttpURLConnection.java:1665)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(
HttpURLConnection.java:1589)
        at Updater.a(:95)
        at Updater.init(:37)
        at net.md_5.bungee.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java)
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.Error: java.net.ConnectException: Connectio
n timed out: connect
        at Updater.init(:51)
        at net.md_5.bungee.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java)
Caused by: java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect
        at java.base/sun.nio.ch.Net.connect0(Native Method)
        at java.base/sun.nio.ch.Net.connect(Net.java:579)
        at java.base/sun.nio.ch.Net.connect(Net.java:568)
        at java.base/sun.nio.ch.NioSocketImpl.connect(NioSocketImpl.java:588)
        at java.base/java.net.Socket.connect(Socket.java:633)
        at java.base/java.net.Socket.connect(Socket.java:583)
        at java.base/sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(NetworkClient.java:183)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(HttpClient.java:498)

        at java.base/sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(HttpClient.java:603)

        at java.base/sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.<init>(HttpClient.java:246)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(HttpClient.java:351)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(HttpClient.java:373)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getNewHttpClien
t(HttpURLConnection.java:1309)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.plainConnect0(H
ttpURLConnection.java:1242)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.plainConnect(Ht
tpURLConnection.java:1128)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(HttpURL
Connection.java:1057)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream0
(HttpURLConnection.java:1665)
        at java.base/sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(
HttpURLConnection.java:1589)
        at Updater.a(:95)
        at Updater.init(:37)
        ... 1 more```
error white run server

[twin solstice]

you have malware

first time i've seen it on bungeecord, but you have malware

[sly sun]

sorry no matter what i try i keep getting a could not connect to default or fallback when /server

i have checked through the ip, and made sure to setup offline mode etc

[deep sleet]

[/84.254.103.12:51128|Crousus] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [Lobby] - could not decode packet! java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: index: 3, length: 63 (expected: range(0, 36))

I get this error when joining on 1.19.4. I assume a plugin is causing this. Gives this information if this is a bungee plugin or one on the backend servers? Also can i find out which packet causes this?
On backend servers i just get a disconnected and on the client I get connection reset

-Dwaterfall.packet-decode-logging=true helped

[white abyss]

can someone please help me connecting two servers through waterfall?

ive been trying to for a while but all the tutorials are very confusing

[coarse escarp]

I need help im connecting 2 servers thru waterfall and it displays a error about enabling ip forwading but its already enabled.

[white abyss]

i think theyres multiple ways to enable it or maybe try disableing it

im not 100% sure though

[fair harness]

https://pastebin.com/wpYB1xxs

Any Idea why I'm getting a There's no available server to connect you to. Please try again later. while trying to connect to lobby server (path is waterfal-nanolimbo auth server-lobby)

[fair harness]

I only have LibreLogin and BungeeGuard installed on waterfall

[fair harness]

fxed. Ptero acting weird today ig

[nimble ember]

login plugin

[craggy trout]

People uses offline Mode, yes.

[astral mortar]

why is this happenening Timed out (-20000 != PacketFrame(id1=-20000, id2=-19999) (MISSING_FRAME))

[astral mortar]

@nimble ember

[astral mortar]

Bruh

[nimble ember]

why did you ping me

[craggy trout]

I dont think thats a waterfall log actually

[astral mortar]

ok

[sonic trench]

Hey

Can I get a little help? My waterfall network really just isn't working, and I don't really know what I'm doing

I tried following a youtube tutorial but it didn't seem to help much

[wicked tusk]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[sonic trench]

I think this is the most passive aggressive message I've seen on discord. Great job..

[twin solstice]

welcome to the internet

what doesn't work

what have you done

how are you hosting your server

are there any errors

[sonic trench]

I'm hosting the server with mcprohosting, and I've setup the proxy server and the lobby one. I followed this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbhZUhdLs44&t=759s however after rewatching it I'm unaware of what I'm doing wrong. I'm not getting any errors, that I know of, however when I try to join the proxy it won't connect

the first half of the video is waterfall^

[twin solstice]

define it won't connect

what error are you getting on joining

is there anything logged in the console for the proxy or backend server

[sonic trench]

give me a minute to pull up the logs

[twin solstice]

ensure your proxy server port matches the port in waterfall's config.yml

[reef fulcrum]

you might need to configure the panel your host uses so that it modifies the config as needed, otherwise, speak to your host for support

[sonic trench]

pasted*

[twin solstice]

sounds about right to me

[sonic trench]

Okay I'll do that, thanks

[wicked tusk]

that gave me a very good laugh! i'm sorry for the seemingly passive aggressive response but you also have to understand that I've seen hundreds of such "ask to ask" questions and at some point you just have to rely on the link

[twin solstice]

yeah it's unfortunately common to have to send such stuff in public support discords

[sonic trench]

If I knew information that was relevant for you to know I would've provided it. It wasn't laziness at all, just a lack of knowledge in the subject.

[twin solstice]

don't take it personally ^^

you're fine

[wicked tusk]

and you may be right about it in this case, but most of the time its the other way around

or a combination

[sonic trench]

I completely understand that, it just the most "bot-like" response I've seen to a support question

I dunno

[sonic trench]

Interestingly enough the support agent can't find anything I did wrong

So either I've found a way to confuse a professional, or I'm overlooking something blatantly obvious.

[reef fulcrum]

Outside of "make sure that it's running", it gets into host specifics

Could be that their infra expects stuff inside of the servers to run on the default ports, if it pre installed a server, see the config it had

[sonic trench]

Nothing was preinstalled

mcph

[reef fulcrum]

The connection literally isn't even working to the proxy

the servers directly are 100% irrelevant unless you're connecting to the wrong thing

[sonic trench]

The middle is the proxy I'm connecting through, and it's supposed to be leading to the lobby, however it's not connecting through the proxy (To my knowledge)

[reef fulcrum]

you're not even connecting to the proxy

[sonic trench]

?

[reef fulcrum]

The connection is being refused by the thing you're connecting to

before the proxy actually accepts the connection

[sonic trench]

So how do I fix that?

[reef fulcrum]

either you're connecting to the wrong ip/port, or the proxy isn't started, the proxy isn't configured to listen on the correct thing, or something is wrong with the hosts setup

I can't particularly help you here as this gets into MCPH specifics

idk their setup, idk what they expect stuff to be configured as

[twin solstice]

yeah make sure you are connecting to the oddflexproxy server

not the other servers

[sonic trench]

But I am? The IP of the proxy is the same IP of the proxy server

I literally copy and pasted it

[reef fulcrum]

The connection was refused

[sonic trench]

correct

[reef fulcrum]

You might be connecting to. What's supposed to be the correct port

But, the connection was refused

[sonic trench]

That's what the support agent is saying

but they're trying to reset the port

[reef fulcrum]

Best guess would be to try using 25565 as the port, assuming thheree using containers, or 25575

In the config, I mean

[sonic trench]

I gave the support agent full control of the servers so hopefully they can figure something out

I've stumped a Support Agent

rip

[twin solstice]

something being broken on mcprohosting is not the least surprising thing

[sonic trench]

But doesn't most servers use mcph?

[twin solstice]

no one uses mcph

lol

mcprohosting is part of the many hosts that are a ripoff but have a big brand name

[sonic trench]

What services would you recommend?

[twin solstice]

if your host is selling servers with limited player slots in 2023, big red flag

[twin solstice]

bloom.host is the one a lot of people here recommend

not to mention MCPH has fired most of their staff team in the last 2 weeks

[sonic trench]

Ayo

these prices tho

lookin mighty fine

[reef fulcrum]

I don't really wanna disparge on a host, but, they're not exactly reputable within the community anymore, and are generally using pretty old hardware

[sonic trench]

When we fix this issue I may switch over

because my wallet is a bit depressed with mcph

Bro

How did I not know about this

Das such a sexy ui wtf

[twin solstice]

mcph is the one host people use because they simply have never heard of anything else and saw MCPH in a handful of videos / ads

and it'll be fine for your average 5 player smp

but breaks down with stuff like this

[sonic trench]

Bro

F

support agent is no longer supportive

[sonic trench]

Right now, I'm paying the equivalent to bloom's most expensive plan

for worse servers

[twin solstice]

correct

[craggy trout]

I think Bloom is good for medium servers. For dedicated stuff i prefeir ovh.

[errant pivot]

everyone on the server got kicked with this message, and there was no server crash or bungee crash

[12:08:43 INFO]: [GHeathC] disconnected with: NativeIoException : recvAddress(..) failed: Connection reset by peer
[12:08:43 INFO]: [/IPHERE:PORT|GHeathC] <-> DownstreamBridge <-> [blue] has disconnected
[12:08:43 INFO]: [/IPHERE:PORT|GHeathC] -> UpstreamBridge has disconnected

[winged pilot]

that could be so many things

a plugin doing things it shouldn't, network issues

[grim aurora]

hi

where can i download waterfall 1.18.2

?

[forest mica]

https://papermc.io/downloads/waterfall

[reef fulcrum]

use the latest version, theres no need to use older ones

[grim aurora]

i want to host a 1.18.2 mc server

[twin solstice]

waterfall is a proxy

it supports 1.8 to 1.19.4 on the latest version

use the latest version

[grim aurora]

i didnt know that

😄

[errant pivot]

ah ok... bungee and main server console had no errors except those 3 for every player. so most likely network outage from ovh side then?

[reef fulcrum]

All we can say is that a connection was closed in an unexpected manner

[grim aurora]

can i host multiple mc servers on one host?

[reef fulcrum]

depends on the host

[grim aurora]

dell poweredge 2950

32gb ram

[reef fulcrum]

well,by hostI thought you meant like, a provider

[grim aurora]

like a physical server

[reef fulcrum]

but, yea, you can run multiple instances on a server

[grim aurora]

hwo

how

[reef fulcrum]

just like you run anything else

just configure them to use different ports

[grim aurora]

does luckperms support waterfall?

[reef fulcrum]

yes

[grim aurora]

thx

i try

[reef fulcrum]

Launch Date Q4'06

[grim aurora]

and btw i have a list of plugins, should i install all plugins to all servers?

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, you can run multiple instances, as for how well they'll actually run

[grim aurora]

like economy plugin to lobby server

[reef fulcrum]

depends on the plugins and your needs

if you want them on multiple servers, then yea

[grim aurora]

what type of database should i use?

for bans, perms, etc.

[reef fulcrum]

Well, mysql is probably the easiest imho, but 🤷‍♂️

[grim aurora]

btw should i use pterodactyl?

panel

[reef fulcrum]

if you want to

[warm compass]

I have a waterfall server and I am trying to connect to the 'lobby' paper server and it keeps giving me this! This is only for this server if I try to connect to the lobby server itself it works like a charm

[reef fulcrum]

either something mangled the signature your client is sending, or, you're using a borked client

[warm compass]

it is vanilla 1.19.4

[warm compass]

I thought it might have something to do with my docker containers running 2 hours behind. But I replicated the issue locally and it still does the same thing. Only for my own servers tho because direct connect & other mc servers work like a charm.

Sorry for ping 😅

[grim aurora]

how do i set up luckperms on waterfall?

[forest mica]

https://download.luckperms.net/1483/bungee/loader/LuckPerms-Bungee-5.4.71.jar

[grim aurora]

what do i do wit dis?

i want roles to be visible on all servers

how do i do that

[reef fulcrum]

They hava a wiki which goes over how to set all that up

[grim aurora]

thx

[raw hazel]

what are the key differences between Waterfall and Velocity?

[twin solstice]

velocity isn't bungeecord

hence it's more efficient

[sonic trench]

Hey electroniccat, did you ever find a solid fix for this? https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5997

This is printed to the output everytime anyone moves in my server

[winged pilot]

you'd probably wanna put that in #paper-help

[sonic trench]

Oh sorry

Is there a way to restart an entire waterfall network at once?

[winged pilot]

like backends too?

[coarse escarp]

I need help im connecting 2 servers thru waterfall and it displays a error about enabling ip forwading but its already enabled.

[summer flower]

did you enable bungeecord in spigot.yml and set online-mode to false in server.properties ?

[craggy trout]

Yes, you can use something to restart all process (screens) like crontab

[sonic trench]

Is that like a plugin.. or..?

because I'm searching it and the only thing coming up is google chrome stuff

[arctic pelican]

I'm trying to run a server using a docker container, but every time waterfall starts it exits with code 1 right afterwards. It isn't making any log files either. Does anyone know what this problem could be?

[reef fulcrum]

Looks like an issue with your container setup or something 🤷‍♂️

[sonic trench]

How would I go about syncing data across servers in my waterfall network?

stuff like vault currency, or luck perms

[reef fulcrum]

use plugins which support that

[sonic trench]

I guess my question is if a plugin would be a better route compared to setting up a mysql server

[reef fulcrum]

The plugin would literally need to support a database service which uses mysql or whatever

you can't just make random plugins speak to a database server

several plugins that use databases don't even really do it safely in the first place

[sonic trench]

Well I ask because I'm seeing refreneces to mysql servers in essentialsx and other plugins like that

[reef fulcrum]

essx doesn't support mysql, so no idea where you're seeing that

[wide swift]

Hello, i have a problem

it displays this message even though my lobby server has: online-mode false, bungeecord true

everything turns on just fine

no errors in console

[reef fulcrum]

you need to connect to the proxy, not the actual server

[wide swift]

Am i not doing that?

[reef fulcrum]

you are

[wide swift]

should i set waterfall to 25565 port?

[reef fulcrum]

generally, yes

[wide swift]

so it becomes default

well, i guess that's the problem then

i will check it out

[reef fulcrum]

you have the proxy connecting to itself

[wide swift]

i'm losing my mind

query and server port is the same

0.0.0.0:25565

[reef fulcrum]

and your servers list?

[steel surge]

did you update the port for the backend server in your proxy config

[wide swift]

server_connect_timeout: 5000
remote_ping_cache: -1
forge_support: false
player_limit: 75
permissions:
  default:
  - bungeecord.command.server
  - bungeecord.command.list
  admin:
  - bungeecord.command.alert
  - bungeecord.command.end
  - bungeecord.command.ip
  - bungeecord.command.reload
timeout: 30000
log_commands: false
network_compression_threshold: 256
online_mode: false
disabled_commands:
- /pl
servers:
  lobby:
    motd: '&aJust another Lobby'
    address: localhost:25567
    restricted: false
  geo:
    motd: '&aJust another Geopolityk'
    address: localhost:25568
    restricted: false
listeners:
- query_port: 25565
  motd: '&1Another Bungee server'
  tab_list: SERVER
  query_enabled: false
  proxy_protocol: false
  forced_hosts:
    pvp.md-5.net: pvp
  ping_passthrough: false
  priorities:
  - lobby
  bind_local_address: true
  host: 0.0.0.0:25565
  max_players: 75
  tab_size: 60
  force_default_server: true
ip_forward: true
remote_ping_timeout: 5000
prevent_proxy_connections: false
groups:
  ArcticPL:
  - admin
connection_throttle: 4000
stats: 97e306b7-79c2-4266-9378-b2042df43f5f
connection_throttle_limit: 3
log_pings: true

welp

i guess it worked now

i can see on waterfall screen that it gives my info

Thank you for help

[north bough]

yo

i need help

When i try join my server it says

online mode is enabled

[twin solstice]

right so

disable online mode in your backend servers

[olive steeple]

Hey i need help

So basically

My ip forwarding is enabled

But it says Enable ip forwarding in your bungeecord config as well

[marble kelp]

@olive steeple make sure you are connecting to the proxy, not the server directly.

[olive steeple]

nvm i fixed it

[marble kelp]

was that the issue?

[olive steeple]

@acoustic adder how are you talking as abot

hm

[marble kelp]

if it was then you should make sure that the server ports aren't accessible from the outside (e.g. by listening on localhost, or using a firewall or vpn), otherwise your setup is exploitable

it's an irc bridge

[olive steeple]

okay

i just installed waterfall again

[marble kelp]

pretty sure it should always return true

false doesn't make much sense there

ah, wrong channel and reported in dev 🙈

*reposted

[random idol]

Is there a plugin that would give users like a compus to tp between the gamemodes

[olive steeple]

I am getting the same error agian

again*

could not connect to a default or fall back server

i connected all the servers

in bungeeconfig

[winged pilot]

yes there are many plugins that can give people compasses to join gamemodes

[olive steeple]

which????

[winged pilot]

google

[olive steeple]

I got a error it says line mapping values are not allowed
but it says to remove the ' : ' from permissions:

[steel surge]

you broke the yaml formatting

[olive steeple]

how

do

i

fix

it

i didnt even do anything

it was working fine before

@steel surge

pls help me

[olive steeple]

pls help me

[steel surge]

instead of pinging me 3 times you should instead google "yaml formatting" and fix your config

[stuck swallow]

is there some soft cap for single waterfall proxy? I've got around 850 concurrent players with one waterfall proxy.. and expecting over 1000 this weekend, and makes me quite worried

it's not common, but there are some incidents that sending player to other server sometimes fail already. is there way to optimize it without moving to velocity?

[marble kelp]

tbh. at some point you will have to load balance between multiple proxies

but if you are seing issues with sending players to servers then that sounds more like an issue with the network connection to the target server or the target server itself and not with the proxy

[stuck swallow]

hmm , it actually didn't fail to send, but says player is still connecting to the server

but it's at least trivial problem for me.. actually don't particularly have trouble yet but wonder if there is so recommended maximum players per proxy

works good so far.. but just getting worried

also, if there is enough significant boost on performance if changing to velocity

[marble kelp]

if you can you should use velocity. it's hard to say in numbers but it's generally more efficient and stable than bungee-based stuff

[hoary saddle]

How can I link player data and inventories between servers

[reef fulcrum]

you'd need some form of plugin which does that

[stoic ember]

Hey, you guys are all smart. Simple question; Can bungee/waterfall resolve domains to forward to? (instead of proxying to IP's will it grab the IP of a domain?)

[reef fulcrum]

yes, but that stuff tends to get cached due to how it's managed so, don't expect to be able to update those records

[stoic ember]

I assume you won't know but, for how long would it be cached?

But yes my use case would be dynamic dns

[reef fulcrum]

No idea what the default jvm ttl is

[stoic ember]

Alrighty thanks

[marble kelp]

would be better to use a plugin to update that tbh

[stuck swallow]

hey thanks for answer. please feel free to just reply or ping me when u get time to answer me because I don't mind that.

I saw your snap plugin for velocity ,and wonder why you put it kinda works. is it becaus of limitations you listed below at this readme page?
https://github.com/Phoenix616/Snap

also, does velocity provide similar or same system of plugin messaging like bungeecord? there are many systems that rely on plugin messaging for our own proxy plugin.

I looked into multiple proxy setup and well yes it's quite of work. changing to velocity sounds more practical solution now for a while.

[reef fulcrum]

Because bungee plugins generally rely on internals

or, well; many rely on internals, many rely on behaviour

[stuck swallow]

listening 😄

[reef fulcrum]

and, yes, velocity provides an implementation of the bungee messaging channel

[stuck swallow]

but it's not drop in replacement right? I need to re-implement this functionalities I believe?

[reef fulcrum]

depends on what you mean by "drop in"

[stuck swallow]

the code using plugin messaging in bungeecord

[reef fulcrum]

velocity already supports the messaging channel outside of the message queue stuff, which,is a weird area (but, there is a plugin impl)

well,yea,any plugins would need to be adapted to work in velocity

they're essentially two entirely different ecosystems

[stuck swallow]

I see. I confirmed luckperm and litebans already works in velocity, so guess gotta try migrate my bungee plugin to velocity.
just one last real one, is it truely worth to change to waterfall -> velocity ( I guess you'll be more lean to velocity as I belive you're developing velocity ) , or should I just go for multiple proxy setup if I'm looking into 2000 players? I don't think I can get more than that anyways because this is Korean server. Korea doesn't have THAT many players..

or I don't know. I didn't expect to get 1k players too anyways so I really dont know

[reef fulcrum]

at 2k players you should be load balancing anyways

even if you might not need it

I mean, I generally work on Waterfall, and Tux, the OG velocity dev, also worked on Waterfall

working on waterfall is generally what lead into Velocity being made, especially due to our sadness over some architectual headaches inside of bungee, which caused issues especially around stuff like exploit mitigation and other such fun

[stuck swallow]

I see. thanks for your words and time. hope I can get this through smoothly. have a good day!

[hoary saddle]

Do you know any better plugin

for that

bc none of the plugin works

Like i am using magma with waterfall

[reef fulcrum]

no

[sly sun]

Does waterfall support fabric servers?

[reef fulcrum]

We support vanilla conforming servers

[royal hawk]

All spigot/modded hybrids are unsupported by us. They may work but you're on your own

[royal hawk]

Short answer: no. It may work. But there's a high chance it won't

If you opt for Velocity: that proxy has extended fabric modded support and there's a high chance that what doesn't work with waterfall will work with velocity

[marble kelp]

really depends on what you do with fabric

[craggy trout]

There are some mods that make's incompatible compatibility with waterfall

[royal hawk]

The most basic thing being custom command type arguments; that's the usual dealbreaker on fabric. Velocity has a compatibility mod for that

Velocity also has the benefit of having the only currently maintained fabric forwarding connector

Bungeecord isn't a good fit for modded because of the player list rewriting, entity meta rewriting, botched custom channel logic, server switching approach and client state tracking

Waterfall addresses some of those

But you can't address them all without breaking a ton of plugins that already exist

[tawdry seal]

Hey, how can i use Custom Colors in BungeeCord? Like the motd or everywhere?

<&#fffff>? or how?

[marble kelp]

use a plugin that offers a human-readable format

e.g. ServerListPlus

[tawdry seal]

Yes ik. But my Question is how can i use it in BungeeCord, bcs i will change some thinks yk

[marble kelp]

read the documentation of the plugin that you use? there are lots of different formats out there

[tawdry seal]

I want to create a own Bungee fork, so i need to change like the message ingame (/bungee) and so on, yk?

thats why i ask for it

<§#fffff> so?

[marble kelp]

I'm not sure what you mean by that, sorry. But you probably want to use a plugin. You can override any command that you want.

[tawdry seal]

i dont want to use a Plugin

nobody speaks about a plugin xD

I want to change Bungeecord Messages like "this server is running" and so on, to my own messages but i want to use custom messages yk for my bungee fork

this is why i ask for "how can is use custom colors" there

[marble kelp]

well this is the wrong channel for that, this it the help not the dev channel

but if you want to change the code, you can use any color by setting the color of the Component directly

[tawdry seal]

Its a normal help question xd

[marble kelp]

no it's not

it has nothing to do with hosting your own waterfall server

[olive steeple]

I am not ABLE to use my sub domain when i installed bungeeguard

[winged pilot]

why?

that makes no sense

[dusk breach]

does waterfall support spigot?

[winged pilot]

waterfall and spigot are completely different things

[dusk breach]

llo

[craggy trout]

I guess you mean proxy and backend compatibility? Then yes.

But don't forget to disable from backend online mode

[dusk breach]

?

[grim aurora]

whats this

[reef fulcrum]

busted config fle

[grim aurora]

what

[grim aurora]

enforce_secure_profile: false
listeners:

• query_port: 25577
  motd: '[&bAqua&1Network&7] &4A SZERVER FEJLESZTÉS ALATT'
  tab_list: GLOBAL_PING
  query_enabled: false
  proxy_protocol: false
  forced_hosts:
  pvp.md-5.net: pvp
  ping_passthrough: false
  priorities:
  • lobby
    bind_local_address: true
    host: 0.0.0.0:25577
    max_players: 1
    tab_size: 60
    force_default_server: false
    remote_ping_cache: -1
    network_compression_threshold: 256
    permissions:
    default:
  • bungeecord.command.server
  • bungeecord.command.list
    admin:
  • bungeecord.command.alert
  • bungeecord.command.end
  • bungeecord.command.ip
  • bungeecord.command.reload
  • bungeecord.command.kick
    log_pings: true
    connection_throttle_limit: 3
    server_connect_timeout: 5000
    timeout: 30000
    player_limit: -1
    prevent_proxy_connections: false
    ip_forward: false
    groups:
    md_5:
  • admin
    remote_ping_timeout: 5000
    connection_throttle: 4000
    log_commands: false
    stats: c3da8c55-f22a-4468-9bbc-1e90e4597501
    online_mode: false
    forge_support: true
    disabled_commands:
• disabledcommandhere
  servers:
  lobby:
  motd: '[&bAqua&1Network&7] &4A SZERVER FEJLESZTÉS ALATT'
  address: localhost:25565
  restricted: false

this is my config

where

yeah?

[reef fulcrum]

PLease don't mention

that's 1 of the 2 config files

[grim aurora]

i only edited this

[reef fulcrum]

and one of the 2 config files is corrupted; apparenly because the one it's upset about is basically empty

[grim aurora]

i used ANSI encoding

is that good?

[reef fulcrum]

I mean, generally you should use unicode

[grim aurora]

whats unicode

[reef fulcrum]

utf8

[grim aurora]

winscp editor automatically uses ansi

how should i set that?

[reef fulcrum]

idk

[stuck swallow]

does waterfall work well with multithreading? 'm thinking to get a AMD threadripper for proxy + db server. is there recommended cpu for 1500~3000 player server?

[reef fulcrum]

best load balancing with multiple instances

the thing is threaded, pretty much everything occurs on the netty threads

[stuck swallow]

yes looking into redisbungee for multiple proxy setups

😋

[past brook]

Does waterfall have full multi threading?

[twin solstice]

yes

[quiet loom]

Hello, yesterday I've setup a waterfall proxy and linked it to my hub and other servers. Almost everything works as it's supposed to, you can even join the lobby with forge using like 1-5 mods.. but when joining with a modpack like Crazy Craft or ATM7, you join the hub but instantly get kicked for "Invalid payload REGISTER!" or "Internal Exception: java.lang.NullPointerException".

I really don't know how to fix this, it would be awesome if someone knew a solution for this. Thanks!

[quiet loom]

The modpack is 1.16.5 btw

[reef fulcrum]

Not really enough info, but, waterfall doesn't support modern forge

[jovial zodiac]

Hello, my network is looking at changing from Bungeecord over to Waterfall or Velocity, can someone here be able to tell me the difference in both of them and what way we should look at moving if we change ??

[marble kelp]

waterfall is Bungeecord + extras, Velocity is a completely different proxy written fresh from the ground up

[jovial zodiac]

Is there much in the way of plugins for Velocity like there is with Bungeecord ??

[marble kelp]

there is a good chunk, yes. Most important ones have Velocity compatibility or at least alternatives nowadays

[jovial zodiac]

How complex is Velocity to install and setup compared to Waterfall and Bungeecord ?

[marble kelp]

the same imo

[twin solstice]

even easier imo

config is nicer to work with for starters

shit just makes more sense and has descriptions on most options

[marble kelp]

not if you are used to how bungee works lmao

[jovial zodiac]

Yeah ok, thank you for the quick reply, I'll look at setting up Velocity and see if I can convince the devop to change over

[marble kelp]

ah also one thing that velocity doesn't support (at least afaik) is having multiple listeners with differetn options but I doubt anybody needs that feature xD

[twin solstice]

i only found out about that months ago

never knew it was a thing before that

explains why that part of the config is a list

[marble kelp]

sounds like you don't run servers

because we used that pretty much the month we switched to bungee back when it started being a thing lmao

but our setup has always been special and doing lots of experiments to see what was possible

e.g. we had an animated server motd/icon for a while 👀

[twin solstice]

no one uses it

have not seen anyone use it across tens of networks in the past 8 years

[marble kelp]

*seriously uses it

e.g. it's an easy inbuilt way to set a per-domain motd but most uses plugins for that

or well, "easy" seeing as it requires an srv record xD

[hoary saddle]

Can we sync advancements of players between two waterfall servers

[marble kelp]

sure, with a plugin

[hoary saddle]

Do you know which plugin could do that

i need for version 1.12.2

[marble kelp]

I have one that syncs all player data but no idea if it works on such an old version lol

[hoary saddle]

Can you send me it's link

[marble kelp]

https://github.com/Minebench/SyncInv

[hoary saddle]

Also kind a weird you being the bot lol

Thanks

[hoary saddle]

Well no it won't work also it includes redis software

Do you have any other

[marble kelp]

I don't see why it wouldn't work

[hoary saddle]

Um how to install redis in waterfall

[marble kelp]

you don't

redis is a separate key-value-storage and pub-sub-messaging server

[hoary saddle]

I see so what's the actuall installation process of that plugin

[marble kelp]

see the readme