#Superman (2025)

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granite leaf
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I think there's a character limit

grand comet
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We already got the best old man batman actor

granite leaf
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I keep telling you, he's ninety seven years old, and he's dead.

rich valley
hallow saffron
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counts the cakes

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nods approvingly

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and that's terrible

rich valley
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it truely is

hallow saffron
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next movie "why is Luthor in solitary?" "he kept stealing other inmates desserts" "really?" "yeah, 40 times" "wow, that's terrible"

rich valley
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i would 100% expect Gunn to make that joke

hallow saffron
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alternative: "why are you in prison?" Lex, sarcastically: "I stole 40 cakes"

grand comet
hallow saffron
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rewatched with my sister tonight, still enjoyable, I've mellowed on the parts I didn't like a bit more and still enjoy the good parts. I feel like the banter is a bit rough at points and the starting is very exposition heavy in ti's dialogue.

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one thing I didn't point out before but was definitely cemented in the watchthrough is that it feels like Mr Terrific is very Batman coded

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and in fact actually says 'I'm goddamned Mr Terrific' at one point

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telling me James knew exactly what he was doing

kindred rose
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oh, for sure

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although I think Mr Terrific as a character is relatively batman coded, something of a batman/ironman hybrid

arctic mango
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Insofar as both Batman and Mr. Terrific are human guys who train real hard to be the best at stuff

tranquil turret
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I was also getting Yondu since he also had a mentally controlled weapon that flew around him at hyper speed.

frigid moat
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I'm glad they went Mr. Terrific though, instead of Batman.

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If only for the garage door gag.

distant tiger
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Gunn clearly has a deep and genuine love for dc, so honestly I think him including characters like mr terrific is at least in part because he's happy he can get away with it

trim egret
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there's also some excellent core differences with the character which probably appeals more than Bats in this context.

the whole "Fair Play" ethos with Terrific kind of makes him stand apart from other "tech" heroes in a lot of media.

it's not just about saving the day but making things better afterwards, community building, social support, etc

I suspect that tickle's Gunn's storytelling a bit (what knowhere ended up being in Guardians relative to the first film I think catches the vibe nicely)

visual basin
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Gunn making the nascent Justice League comprised of Hawkgirl, Mr Terrific and Guy Gardner feels like such a flex. A central narrative choice that screams "its insane these 3 haven't been in a movie yet"

trim egret
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Both Bruce Wayne and Tony Stark are more... capitalistic heroes? genius billionaire playboy philanthropists who're incredibly brilliant and powerful in their settings... but also kind of let the status quo kind of tick onwards?

which has always been a criticism regarding the whole Batman/Gotham dynamic which Mr.Terrific has always been kind of a response to.

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which also works really well with Gunn's version of Lex where we're HEAVILY playing into the petty billionaire villain angle.

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and a much better contrast that Wayne and Luthor tend to be :>

distant tiger
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Batman would also just naturally overshadow most of the movie if he was there

trim egret
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indeed

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and lets be honest recent batman/superman tie ins have... muddied the waters of that whole thing a bit ^^

kindred rose
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I mean my assumptions is he wanted some cool interesting heroes but not anyone else of the "founded the justice league" 7 or 8 core members.

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because they'd all pull focus from supes

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Plus, it lets you have them be kind of dipshits and in the wrong for superman to contrast with

tranquil turret
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I'm just glad we're seeing the b-listers get some play. I miss Justice League Unlimited's unapologetic roster of colorful weirdos. They even had an episode about how they have two stretchy guys!

trim egret
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could we get a JLU style non-edgy Green Arrow?... we can but hope :>

hallow saffron
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also gave my sister a little background on the characters she wasn't familiar with:
"Guy Gardner's the jackass Green Lantern"
"Mr Terrific is like 'what if Lex Luthor wasn't evil?'"