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#modding-discussion
swift bison
lean pebble
im so bad at phrasing questions
vital ocean
hi i'm new, i apologize if this is a silly question. i installed the debug mod and i see that there are some keybinds, but how do i interact with the buttons at the top of the screen, and how do i create new keybinds?
oh and also it says dreamgate.dat not found, what do i do about that?
swift bison
@vital ocean 1. Look at the center of the screen for the key bind you want to set, then click the white dot to the right of it, then press the button you want. 3. Set a dream gate
What
How did 2 Autocorrect to 3.....
vital ocean
it doesn't seem to be acknowledging my mouse at all, only my controller, i'll try unplugging my controller and restarting
swift bison
Unplug the controller until the title screen when you use mods
Also wdym it won’t acknowledge your mouse?
vital ocean
i just mean there's no curser and clicking does nothing
swift bison
Press pause
vital ocean
thanks i'm gonna try restarting the game and plugging in the controller after 🙂
swift bison
K
vital ocean
ok it works i didn't realize it only works when paused, i feel silly for not trying that, thank you 🙂
oops i see now that there was a faq pinned in modding help which gave the unplugging the controller advice, i appreciate your patience with me!
reef granite
I have a few questions
1-will I have to find the lever to open dirtmouth's stag station somewhere randomly?
2-How do I use benchwarp? my only unlocked stag stations are dirtmouth and Queen's garden but I can't go further without the dash or the double jump which means I'm stuck
nvm I found out about bench warm
still confused about the stag station's lever
Also I like that items that shouldn't be in shops have a unique flavor text
oh god
Please don't tell me the crossroads are ALREADY gonna be infected
prisma raven
I believe it will
modern jay
What's with the different lengths of "no" when changing the cursed setting in the randomizer? Am I right to assume they're just protection against people accidentally turning on cursed, or do they actually do different things?
reef granite
well the good part about getting the crossroads infected early is that I'm getting loads of geo
reef granite
"RGHBLKBRRBGHGEOKFHKNGRBGL"
junior lotus
Anyone know of any mods that shorten P5? Id be happy to fight the last ten. But doing the whole thing is really boring
swift bison
@junior lotus use debug to make yourself op until then
junior lotus
I guess if it lets me one shot lol. And then could turn it off for the final 10. Still gotta listen to a bunch of cannon fodder screech at me tho and it's pretty clunky. I might try it ty
I really don't like the design. If you have any shot at winning PoH you're at no risk dying in the first 30. Feels so over the top to fight everything.
swift bison
Get qol to skip boss intros
dry snow
hello
is there any mod to fight any boss
or whats the quickest way i can reach the Hollow Knight boss fight
ive gotten to p5 but havent beat the game and would like to do so
minor tinsel
you can use benchwarp to teleport to the black egg temple and to godhome?
swift bison
@glacial prawn #archived-modding-help pin 4 if you aren’t on Catalina. If you are on Catalina, use pin 2 or 3
junior lotus
@swift bison nice that's a great feature
swift bison
?
Oh
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Np
Which mod and does text appear in the top left of the main menu?
Which mod and does text appear in the top left of the main menu?
You answered neither of my questions
Ok
?saves
fathom wigeonBOT
Saves
Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\``` ** ** Mac File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/``` ** ** Linux File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
swift bison
Go to your save files path in whatever Mac’s version of file explorer is, and delete all files with ModdingApi.globalsettings in their name
K
vapid trout
does anybody know a invincability and noclip mod
limber belfry
mantis lords aren't that bad 
but i you want to use it, then i think in the pins is the mod installer
untold cypress
debug and mod common, maybe another I'm forgetting. pins are in the top right, looks like a pushpin
hexed nimbus
debugmod does both
wet fractal
how long does the beta take to play?
im having difficulty accessing the hk beta. what program do i need to run it on?
dry snow
Is there a way I can have more save files?
how long does the beta take to play?
I think it dies while trying to go to greenpath
wet fractal
thanks
lone anvil
Is there a way I can have more save files?
@dry snow You could use the More Saves mod: https://github.com/KayDeeTee/hk-moresaves
dry snow
Holy cow yes
reef granite
Does that means I should have both dream nail and grubsong to pick up that item?
cosmic salmon
it means you get grubsong if you have DN
dry snow
What mod is this?
dry snow
Bruh, just say rando
swift bison
Bruh
dry snow
It's all the same thing tbh
swift bison
No it’s not
dry snow
What's the difference?
swift bison
Bruh
weak plinth
lol
if you want to simplify it that much, sure
that's like saying the first car from 1970 and cars of today are.... just an update
they're really the same thing
swift bison
Make rando 4 then and call it a update
dry snow
I don't mod
dry snow
Lol
dry snow
Blackmoth or Lightbringer
swift bison
Both
weak plinth
yes
dry snow
swift bison
Include hollow point
dry snow
Hollow point?
swift bison
And don’t forget redwing
dry snow
No
swift bison
AK47
swift bison
Not against all rando including enemy
swift bison
Have you seen eg before?
swift bison
Enraged guardian
swift bison
11/10 enough bosses
dry snow
It's a joke man
swift bison
K
swift bison
Nah
dry snow
Nah
swift bison
Pale court
dry snow
Not out
swift bison
Cool mod made by grenade/anyone it adds a new path of pain located opposite to pop’s entrance called test of teamwork.
Nearly finished
swift bison
Oh multiplayer is fun
dry snow
But way too laggy
swift bison
Hey
dry snow
Hey
swift bison
Don’t complain
dry snow
Ok
swift bison
Jngo added multiplayer to a game that was singleplayer
hexed nimbus
sm64 modder
dry snow
Sm64 modder
swift bison
K cool
hexed nimbus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693650261910224967/762798543278309426/unknown.png i hate python
dry snow
Holy cow
swift bison
Confusion
swift bison
How’s tot going
hexed nimbus
i now have ~26 hours in Control
swift bison
?
swift bison
Test of teamwork
hexed nimbus
dry snow
Oh
I hate when I play a mod, then i want to go to another mod
But my save file just explodes
And glitches out
pliant frost
Is there a mod that helps with speedrunning purposes? (not load times or anything, but the ability to skip the credits and so on)
weak plinth
mods are not allowed for speedrunning
pliant frost
That would make sense
open bone
What is the Vasi mod? I haven't checked mod loader in a while and it auto downloaded
errant lance
?mods
fathom wigeonBOT
Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew
swift bison
@open bone Vasi is basically another modcommon. Always have it on
viscid aspen
mods are not allowed for speedrunning
not even custom knight?
hexed nimbus
no one would know if you had mods changed so they do more than others think they do
tired elk
hello there 👋 anybody know what happened to the PALE COURT mod or when it‘ll drop?
dry snow
It's still W.I.P.
hexed nimbus
it's definetly gonna get released alongside silksong
tired elk
awesome 👏 would love to test a beta or sth!
hexed nimbus
... that was sarcasm
minor tinsel
the reason mods are banned is because even just the modding api improves performance of the game
silk junco
?
hexed nimbus
#BanMods, revolution against the orange ||/s||
weak plinth
silksong
lofty nest
ummm, there was a very big mod is all i can say
weak plinth
yeah, that doesn't help
lofty nest
that would add new areas and possibly more moves and charms
fathom wigeonBOT
Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew
lofty nest
no its not out yet it just being worked on
i was trying to figure out who was working on it so i could keep up with development
me and Someone (the username) talked about it a while ago
weak plinth
there's nothing to keep up with. it's not like mod development has regularly scheduled publicized updates
if you want the most recent update, it's still "we're working on a mod"
that's pretty much it
lofty nest
ik but like to know when it released. and i just wanted to know the name again
yea i get that
weak plinth
school is back now too
lofty nest
How hard would you say is modding?
weak plinth
that depends on your experience
lofty nest
i have 0 coding experience. was learning then i just got bored
silk junco
also depends on what you want to do
lofty nest
fair
silk junco
@hollow cloak when trying to use sseadv on big areas (to get, say, the animation of an enemy fluke) it doesn't seem to load the enemies at all
hollow cloak
What file/sprite
silk junco
for example, trying to get fluke animations of waterways_02
silk junco
huh
thats weird, the other day it didnt work for me
and now it is
while trying to see crossroads 3 this happens
silk junco
the one you sent me the other day
hollow cloak
silk junco
hollow cloak
are you using automatic open
silk junco
what is that?
hollow cloak
silk junco
yes
silk junco
current
silk junco
also just deleted the one I had to download the lastest, but the page aint loading
Im fucking unlucky some times
hollow cloak
of sseadv or hk?
silk junco
hollow cloak
hollow cloak
working now?
wicked cedar
Is there a mod that makes grimmchild go exactly where the knight goes, like he completely overlaps ghost?
minor tinsel
hey @hollow cloak while you're here, can you just confirm that sseadv works exactly the same as spritepacker when packing sprites?
as in, if i just watch the spritepacker tutorial i can do the same things for sseadv?
hollow cloak
in terms of ui or just the input/output textures
minor tinsel
i'm not sure how to load all of the folders with the frames into sseadv
and how to pack it
hollow cloak
currently the "load all" feature doesn't exist so you need to separately go to the file with the right sprite (a lot of them are in resources.assets tho)
minor tinsel
ok
hollow cloak
then you export a sprite to pngs with save -> this -> sprite collection
minor tinsel
so i can just open up resources.assets for the first step?
hollow cloak
what sprite are you trying to do
minor tinsel
the knight atlas
hollow cloak
yes open resources.assets
minor tinsel
ok
hollow cloak
export with save -> this -> sprite collection
import the folder of pngs with edit -> this -> sprite collection
minor tinsel
ok
hold on
i think i need to reinstall mono
wait
crap
did upgrading to catalina screw me over
isn't mono 32 bit or smth
ok no it should work
silk junco
my friend went through that too in like 3 days
minor tinsel
it's probably because i "upgraded" to catalina
silk junco
-I may try linux
-ok I installed linux
-I dont like it, so I went back to windows
minor tinsel
except in my case i'm stuck with mac
hollow cloak
How did you install wine @minor tinsel
Nvm the mac thing was thru wine, looks like mono winforms on catalina not supported atm
minor tinsel
am i supposed to use wine?
minor tinsel
ok
great, homebrew isn't working either
did catalina really screw things up that badly
hollow cloak
Reinstall it maybe
minor tinsel
yea i'm trying to
except it says "brew cask reinstall" is outdated
and then when i try brew reinstall it just freezes
hollow cloak
What if you run the original install script
minor tinsel
oh
wait
ok it's workin
ok i think i have 64 bit wine now
ok, never mind
it's not 64 bit
dry snow
Thoughts on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa2WqzNPSMw
vast prairie
hot
hexed nimbus
may just be me, but that doesn't seem quite centered
dry snow
Yeah, there are a few things I need to improve.
silk junco
is that what I think it is?
dry snow
It's just a preview of what I'm making, since I'm done with all the attacks and just need to polish and balance it.
hexed nimbus
it's touhou in hollow knight
dry snow
There are some attacks that were inspired by spell cards in Touhou, although I also used a few from CAVE games.
swift bison
Making a radiance mod doesn’t seem that hard now that I think about it. I’ll just make some small edits to the fight to make it simpler to mod, then I’ll make like 5 radiance mods
minor tinsel
i want to make a joke mod called pantheon of shaw and it's just poh but every boss is hornet and she can only say shaw
actually i don't
swift bison
Yes you do
You want all sound effects to be Shaw
Gonna make that after I find which of hornet’s sound effects are SHAW
weak plinth
yes
minor tinsel
how so?
weak plinth
and a lot of private stuff
weak plinth
uh..... that would probably be easier, yeah
minor tinsel
or is there some method that plays audio, and i can mess with that to make it only play shaw
weak plinth
I ran into a problem with the music mod that I could replace the audio file, but haven't been able to get it back out yet
minor tinsel
oh
minor tinsel
ok
weak plinth
but yes, it's possible
minor tinsel
i'll take a look at the api
minor tinsel
what's an fsm?
weak plinth
yup. modifying C# stuff from unity isn't hard, but anything in FSMs from playmaker are more difficult
especially since a lot of the state names can be the same
which is why the skurry look down works
because it triggers a "finish" fsm state
weak plinth
for an fsm that's not even what is being moved
minor tinsel
is there a credits fsm?
minor tinsel
yeah
minor tinsel
i think i understand why it's called spaghetti code now
what version of visual studio should i get
weak plinth
2017 is what I have
weak plinth
and add resharper
minor tinsel
this thing?
weak plinth
yeah. an extension for VS
minor tinsel
ok
minor tinsel
oh ok
wait
this is an exe
i don't think there's a mac version of resharper
should i just get rider?
weak plinth
that's another good choice.
hexed nimbus
clion is also not free, may be because of compilers and stuff, idk
minor tinsel
where can i find some example mods?
hexed nimbus
github
weak plinth
they're pinned somewhere too
minor tinsel
ok
hexed nimbus
weak plinth
looking through github pages for completed mods is a good thing to do too
see how others are coding their actual mods
hexed nimbus
JetBrains Products
With Community Versions:
IntelliJ IDEA
PyCharm
Without:
Everything else
the example mods are good, but I personally found the code from completed mods to be more helpful
minor tinsel
ok
swift bison
What does resharper do? I have a student email but I don’t want to have to repeat learning visual studio
swift bison
:0
hexed nimbus
wait wut
swift bison
Wait doesn’t it already do something like that?
hexed nimbus
like a replacement for ctrl+space?
weak plinth
but it's better
swift bison
Oh, I’ll look into it
hexed nimbus
it also highlights typos, which can be annoying
minor tinsel
ok it's giving me a bunch of errors
because i need to add assembly c sharp as a refernce
swift bison
And?
minor tinsel
except i have no idea how to do that
swift bison
?saves
fathom wigeonBOT
Saves
Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\``` ** ** Mac File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/``` ** ** Linux File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
minor tinsel
no i mean in visual studio
minor tinsel
ok
weak plinth
you need to add a bunch of references
swift bison
Yeah
hexed nimbus
Right click "References" -> Add Reference -> Browse button -> navigate to DLLs -> click add -> click OK
minor tinsel
oh
swift bison
Should we just add everything?
swift bison
?
hexed nimbus
what references ToT currently has
minor tinsel
wait
swift bison
What does first pass do?
hexed nimbus
why did i add unitywebrequest
swift bison
Same question
minor tinsel
wait no i'm dumb
hexed nimbus
apparently firstpass isn't needed
weak plinth
Resharper will tell you too when you need a reference to something
you just need resharper
hexed nimbus
but vs tells you that too
swift bison
Yeah
weak plinth
VS is just so much easier to use with resharper
swift bison
lol
minor tinsel
do i need to add all of those
weak plinth
congrats, i now own your identity
minor tinsel
or just the ones on the api
now no one else will know
yay
now there's no more errors screaming at me
hexed nimbus
yo Mickely, since you apparently worked more with Resharper than i did, did you change the settings or did you leave them at default?
minor tinsel
is LogDebug just for the debug mod console
hexed nimbus
ok
weak plinth
but I may have. it was awhile ago since I've used VS
swift bison
I’ll look at resharper later this week
weak plinth
so I don't really remember
logdebug is for the logging console. you can turn the log on/off in the api settings i think? in one of the settings files
very useful for finding when things are exactly triggered
and if your stuff is loading
hexed nimbus
@minor tinsel what you probably want is something like
Log("");
in any code block inside the main class of the mod
minor tinsel
ok
weak plinth
hexed nimbus
that is for classes that don't inherit Mod
hexed nimbus
apparently
minor tinsel
nice
so do i need to like manually add references to every project
i'll take a look at some csharp stuff over the weekend and then start messing with stuff
hexed nimbus
afaik yes
hexed nimbus
from the screenshot i think the HK Remix mod is somewhat working already? @weak plinth
weak plinth
yeah. it is
like i said, I just didn't get to the step yet of loading back in the default music
hexed nimbus
fair enough
weak plinth
and this setting will show the debug log in the bottom left of your game
live
just set it to true
I posted a build of the music mod somewhere
hexed nimbus
i apparently completely missed that
weak plinth
replacing the hornet music only
the file is huge tho too. b/c the music is embedded
so that's another issue i'd need to fix
hexed nimbus
the json may also look like this (i think an modding api update did that)
hexed nimbus
i love that i put my stuff in unity assetbundles, makes the audio files from 95 MB (only raw audio files) to 10.4 MB (Audio, Sprites, Scenes, etc.)
weak plinth
yeah. I put .wav files in
which are enormous by nature
so I'd probably change to mp3 if I can
if that asset loader in it will even work
minor tinsel
aren't ogg files also good? or does that just not work
hexed nimbus
yeah, i put those into the assetbundles and told unity to compress those to something with PCM
weak plinth
I think the asset loading code I have in my mod would only work with wav files tho? I'm not sure
It's another problem I never got around to resolving
hexed nimbus
yes, the wavutility only works with wav files
i told unity to compress the wav files with ADPCM compression
one track goes from 6.1 MB to 1.1 MB apparently
weak plinth
that'd be nice
if I ever get around to finishing this, I'll have to poke you for that
stoic arch
I tried room rando and gave up after an hour because I didn't get any mobility and was softlocked across like 30 rooms
dull folio
Are there any mods that make you look like the dead vessel you see when you first fight hornet?
This guy
swift bison
Infected skin maybe
silk junco
not really
minor tinsel
i don't think people are too interested in making skins for just other vessels
since there's just more interesting concepts out there
stiff wolf
I swear I've seen screenshots of someone at twp doing a skin with lost kin horns, but none such has been released
Horn options would be neat to have tho
silk junco
you would still have to draw every single frame
and that is the infected knight "scion" skin
stiff wolf
That is not the skin I'm talking about
But yeah, lot of work for less reward than your average skin gives
silk junco
may be a personal skin, I have not seen it
stiff wolf
I don't remember where I even saw it so /shrug
pliant frost
Where did the modding api go when you install it
I need to take it out so I can do speedruns
weak plinth
verify game file integrity
pliant frost
cool ty
flat tapir
The progress so far
flat tapir
Charms of Onikiri
swift bison
Cool
swift bison
Ok
flat tapir
I swear I've seen screenshots of someone at twp doing a skin with lost kin horns, but none such has been released
@stiff wolf This one？
granite crow
the multiplayer mod is already fully functional?
swift bison
Is that going to be a challenge skin? If it is, do you have to escape the abyss like that?
Yes
Sort of
Been for a while
flat tapir
This one is public
granite crow
huh
flat tapir
And the Noriaki Skin is going to be public, l'm translating the Customtext
A moment please
swift bison
Ok
flat tapir
What would you call it? Uninfected vessel?
swift bison
Idk
stiff wolf
found kin
That is probably it! I imagined the horns thinner but my memory plays tricks on me like that
swift bison
If there was a set, I would call it vessel variation #(the vessel number)
stiff wolf
Also
Too many skins
Gosh I wish that were me...
Also what beautiful charms, as always!
flat tapir
Done
The bad news is that there has been a massive and serious skin piracy recently, so many authors have been discouraged. Recent updates may slow down
swift bison
Wdym skin piracy?
Aren’t they already free?
Or is someone else claiming they made the skins?
flat tapir
You know that many skins are challenge skins or private skins
There are people who collect all kinds of skins and sell them
swift bison
Awww
That’s bad
I can understand it a bit with pale king since it’s no longer a challenge skin, but other than that, pretty bad
flat tapir
That guy even threatened to reveal one author's private skin if she did not give him the latest one
flat tapir
Yeah
flat tapir
Really terrible
The author thought they would love that skin
Which is really high quality
The author said she will public that skin a few days later, but she will not make skins anymore
swift bison
Awwww. Why do people do this
flat tapir
For money?
swift bison
Good point
swift bison
Whoever purchased from them doesn’t have any either
flat tapir
Yeah
In fact, the reason I'm updating Onikiri is because it was also stolen
And the Halloween skin
swift bison
Was pale king also stolen?
flat tapir
So I will public Halloween skin this Halloween
flat tapir
Well I hope I didn't tell you these)
swift bison
?
flat tapir
Be happy with challenges
swift bison
Ok
I’m gonna attempt the fool challenge again after I finish working on all the mods I have
wicked berry
What would custom knight+ do?
swift bison
It’s not going to be xml though
Custom spritesheet formations allowing for sprites that go out of the normal bounds
I have a pretty good idea for it now
wicked berry
Oh that would be awesome yeah
swift bison
Just gotta do a bit more logging
swift bison
Yes
I think I know how to do that properly now since last time it died
I just am going to be working on it slower because of school
And I just realized I haven’t had a snack since i got out of school today, I will now go correct that mistake then get the final info I need before working on it again
dry snow
Do people know what every mod does?
fathom wigeonBOT
Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew
minor tinsel
awww, that really stinks that the challenge and private skins are being stolen
it ruins the whole point of it, sucks for both the people who worked hard to get the skin and the people who put so much effort into the skins
some jerks just feel like ruining nice things i guess
stiff wolf
it seems like it SHOULD be legally actionable if money is being exchanged
like, making money off a thing two separate teams of people have worked to create, neither of which contains you, is Bad
swift bison
Yeah
They can’t sell something they can’t own!
But idk how the legal stuff works and it will probably cost a lot
wicked berry
It makes me unreasonably angry
silk junco
wait selling what to who now?
wicked berry
Selling private skins to anyone who's willing to buy I guess
And by private skin I mean not their own private skins
If you scroll up, poppy explained the whole situation.
silk junco
oh shit thats a nono
swift bison
Legal action?
errant lance
doubt
gray lichen
I've been needing some new skin lately, come to think of it... the skin I have now is too small.
rugged grove
the selling private skins thing is just rude
I'm disappointed I missed out on the chance to get the Pale King skin but oh well? not gonna beg people for it when I didn't earn it
wicked berry
It's not so much the not earning it part. I don't care so much about the people who got the skins and who wanted to feel exclusive, even though it does sting a little. What bothers me is creators who put a lot of work into making something they were really proud of, and who decided they wanted to make it a little bit exclusive or to make a fun challenge out of it, only to have someone rip their hard work from them. I don't know if you read what poppy said, but one of the skin creators will stop making skins because of this. That breaks my heart. How vain someone has to be to be so inconsiderate and lowly.
Anyways, are spells allowed to juggle zote for the fool skin challenge?
wicked berry
Thank you
wicked berry
Wait is zote allowed to touch the ground after you start juggling him?
Ah nevermind
I just saw two youtube videos of people saying they beat the challenge but they let him touch the ground
wicked berry
That's what I figured at first, but when I looked up videos to see how people did it, the two top results let him touch the ground
wicked berry
Are you allowed enemyhpbar?
minor tinsel
my strategy was to start with full soul and alternate between nail and soul to get in as much damage as possible
yeah, hp bar is allowed
wicked berry
And obviously qol is too to download the save. alright
stiff wolf
I mean, I think he is forced to hit the ground the first time, before he yells?
stiff wolf
QoL doesn't have anything to do with saves, but it shouldn't make mechanical changes
Gl
minor tinsel
yeah
the only time he should touch the ground is at the beginning during the scream and when he's dead
or defeated
he doesn't die unfortunately
wicked berry
really? I can't download a save unless I have the mod on. Otherwise, when I open the game the new savefile just goes away
minor tinsel
oh, delete all the backups
also, just quit to menu if he hit the ground already
that way you won't have to keep replacing your save
wicked berry
this is by far the hardest of the three
minor tinsel
onikiri challenge has entered the chat
wicked berry
I have the onikiri skin though
minor tinsel
oh right, the pk challenge is gone now, so there's only three
wicked berry
And I've done absrad grimmchild only
minor tinsel
the thing is, fool skin isn't particularly hard to get, it's just a lot of rng
wicked berry
Bs and rng
wicked berry
... I want to scream a bit
I know I can shade soul to get him up when he's away, I know I want to get him near a wall, I know I want to abyss shriek in alternating fashion with nail hits
Why is this so hard
It's so instant. I play so well through the whole trial and then I get 1-2 seconds of attempts before he follows the sheik fair trajectory straight to the ground
rugged grove
i get what you meant up there and i was trying to say something similar i'm just not very good with laying my thoughts out
but yeah fool skin looks like a lot of rng good luck
wicked berry
... I completed it earlier. I just didn't show my charms at any point during the recording session.
and gotcha
not very good either, i feel ya
rugged grove
i'm better with numbers than words tbh
that sucks, showing charms is a requirement isn't it
wicked berry
how do I always mess it up
I had to do the second onikiri challenge four times before I got it right
and now this
wet fractal
Has anyone created a snail shaman skin?
dry snow
has anyone made a quirrel skin?
silk junco
I dont think so
trail vault
So wait, is there an official modding page for hollow knight?
Like no viruses and that?
no malware.
I wanna do another playthrough of hollow knight but with gun, or lance, or dash, or whatever weapon.
swift bison
@trail vault bruh. Why would this be on the official hk server if it was a virus
blissful vessel
I have a question about the enemy randomizer mod.
Why do some enemies look squished/wide sometimes? Same with enemies being small.
like this, why does this happen?
blissful vessel
tough basin
hey is that ultra mod out yet?
with all the knights
and like new voice acting and stuff
stiff wolf
you mean like custom knight? there's a lot of knights in that one
cosmic salmon
he means pale court, and no.
swift bison
@blissful vessel it might be trying to position the new enemies in the position of the old ones and copy the scale which might look weird on unintended enemies, but that’s just my guess since I haven’t looked at the code
untold stratus
What is the name for the knight slashing in the hk sprite ? i've been trying to find it on the #art-discussion pinned message
there's a sprite file right there if you don't quite get what i mean
stiff wolf
what name do you mean
blissful inlet
are there any mods that give you everything at the start of the game so you can instantly go to white palace?
weak plinth
debug
blissful inlet
thank you
untold stratus
really is it just individual image ? if so what is the name
eternal sapphire
WOW, That's a lot.
stiff wolf
not even counting dreamgate, shape of unn, shade cloak get, shriek get...
flat tapir
has anyone made a quirrel skin?
@dry snow maybe when Customknight+ finished we will make one
like this （via a member of TWP）
jolly grove
Ooooh
That’s a really nice sketch
But also weren’t Someone and Shalun trying to make one to put into HK?
lapis needle
Could I ask where I can find more HP bar skins?
hexed nimbus
pins in this channel
lapis needle
hmm I already checked the pins and I found only 1
hexed nimbus
isn't in the list in the pins, so no
@lapis needle first 2 links of <#modding-discussion message>
dapper surge
alright ty
lapis needle
I want "HP Bar skins" not the knight skins, but thank you anyways
hexed nimbus
oh, then i think it's random file uploads in one of the 3 modding channels
lapis needle
ok thx
blissful vessel
@swift bison Ah okay thanks for the response, would makes sense if that's the case.
hexed nimbus
@lapis needle one that i found: <#modding-discussion message>
lapis needle
dry snow
Some one, ANYONE
HELP ME MAKE PRIMAL SHADE ZOTELING
I will provide art, please dm me
the last curse before silksong
swift bison
K
Give art and will easily make
You asked for both me and anyone tho
So idk which one you want to make it
jagged osprey
The hollow point update is cool but I wish you could have an option to use the old ammo system or the new one
brittle egret
i might add some global jsons for that
also wdym, ammo system still uses the soul gauge
jagged osprey
Like you can heal and use spells without the need of adrenaline
while the ammo stays at a set amount
think it was 22 before?
brittle egret
adrenaline works the same way as soul, just easier to accumulate
and if youre on full adrenaline, you get to be able to keep healing as you keep damaging enemies
i did it to promote being aggressive
but yeah i might still need to tweak it
jagged osprey
Yeah
Since im pretty sure most people use it with an enemy randomizer
also kinda removes some of the cursed difficulty from the item one
as you cant heal at the start
though its a really cool system
Im glad to see mods add more content to the game without use of some of the games textures
though they are still cool
but it feels a lot more modded that way kind of like how modded mc and command blocks/plugins feel different
also is mark of pride not supposed to work with quick slash?
brittle egret
no
theyre both different guns
QS is the LMG and MoP is the semi auto sniper rifle
jagged osprey
do gas charges exist anymore?
brittle egret
nope
i removed them because apparently the resource system was hated :/
also sorry its kinda weird balancewise as i dont have a lot of time balancing it, so i have no idea whether its easier or harder
jagged osprey
it feels harder with an enemy randomizer on
is there any charm interactions and what charms have been changed
brittle egret
only ones i didnt touch iirc that much is the summoning charms i think? cuz imo they found a decent niche now that youre restricted meleewise
i did buff womb tho, i removed the soul cost
and made it a bit faster
jagged osprey
also are you not supposed to gain soul from attacking anymore (With the gun)
brittle egret
i didnt do much interaction because at that point i was dry creative wise, i wanted to move on and do other stuff
depends on the gun
the close range ones relies on getting kills for soul
the medium ranged ones gets some soul on hit
jagged osprey
what about the starting gun?
brittle egret
it does but only a bit, theres some soul gain boosting charms tho
i might buff the main gun next time tho
brittle egret
yeah its only by a small margin
the idea was, it costs 10 soul to shoot, but if you hit you gain 5 back, so that means theoretically youll shoot more if you hit your shots instead of blindly firing and hitting nothing
for what its worth, i did add quality of life stuff like your shots not consuming soul shortly after killing someone
jagged osprey
oh so theres only loss thats probably why i didnt notice
brittle egret
yeah but in return i reduced the soul cost per shot for most of guns
so you wont end up shooting endlessly basically
jagged osprey
or it can work this way
you can heal and use spells with adrenaline
instead of having to fill it to 3
then you gain health
after shooting enemies
it would probably be best if it was optional though if you wanted to have more challenge
or it could work that way normally
if you dont heal you gain attack but if you do you lose the attack boost
brittle egret
yeah its currently experimental, i can probably make an option for an classic mode
brittle egret
but gonna be honest, i dont think i can do options atm since im kinda prioritizing learning other prog languages atm, at best ill tweak some numbers in the mean time
and im kinda burnt out with the mod, ive been working on it for like a month past now
jagged osprey
I see
brittle egret
really sorry again, ive been deving it it for like close to 4-6 months and i wanted to get it released asap
jagged osprey
its fine
minor tinsel
is godump supposed to make your game lag out
ok guess it's working
just
very slowly
minor tinsel
nice it finished dumping the sprites
wicked berry
What are you going to make?
wicked berry
how do you accidentally dump pv
minor tinsel
basil helped me make a recolored blue knight
so i dumped that into individual png files
that way i won't have to recolor every single knight sprite
swift bison
That was also the time I dumped Grimm knight on accident.
minor tinsel
should make it much easier
swift bison
Ok
minor tinsel
oh i just edited the json to only have knight
could customknight theoretically replace any spritesheet?
swift bison
If they were added to the code
minor tinsel
huh
swift bison
It could check the name of the png and compare it with the name in the code
Bunch of weird and possibly conflicting names tho
minor tinsel
oh ok
swift bison
My lunch is over in about 15 mins
Then 4 day weekend
So I can work on CustomKnight+
minor tinsel
lucky
minor tinsel
i want a 4 day weekend
swift bison
Oof
minor tinsel
we don't have another break until like november
swift bison
Thanks
minor tinsel
i'll bet twp can make some really cool stuff with it
swift bison
The new problem they are having is giving me a lot of encouragement to make it
I think I can do knight pretty easily
Then I’ll start on other sheets
Actually
All of the knight sprites
minor tinsel
would customknight+ use the spritesheets or would you make it compatible with the folder format
minor tinsel
it would seem to me that the folder format would be easier to work with
swift bison
Not just the knight spritesheet of knight sprites are in the collection
All sprites with the knight are tmk
minor tinsel
tmk?
swift bison
To my knowledge
minor tinsel
oh
minor tinsel
i mean like would customknight+ use spritesheets like customknight currently does, or would you make it compatible with folders dumped by godump
minor tinsel
oh
swift bison
Large bug chasing me brb
minor tinsel
it would still be compatible with og customknight though right
swift bison
No
Ok
It is completely customizable spritesheets
You define where the sprites are in the global settings
You aren’t confined to anything
minor tinsel
woah
swift bison
I might also make a way where you don’t need to do annoying globalsettings
After talking to poppy, they said they don’t like using unity, so I’m not adding it at first
minor tinsel
oh ok
swift bison
But basically, my idea is for people to make normal animations in unity and assetbundle them
minor tinsel
oh ok
i just wanted to know if customknight+ would be compatible with customknight spritesheets
swift bison
Then I make some cool code stuff that transfers everything to tk2d animation which is what most of hk uses
It can be
minor tinsel
cool
swift bison
You just need to type in the size and position of every sprite
So the 2 ways are the unity way and that way
swift bison
Yeah, but y’all should be able to make a skin within a couple months of breakdowns about typing every value
minor tinsel
well, i guess each animation would have the same size and position
so only 214 times
for knight at least
wicked berry
People animate in Unity? I've also never heard of tk2d, I have so much to learn
Can you not just dump the sprites, edit them, then spritepacker them into a skin like any other
hollow cloak
converting unity spritesheet to tk2d doesn't sound that bad but how are you going to handle animations
fringe tangle
Can using enemy randomizer damage my save files
because if so
fuck.
probably not but I do be worried
minor tinsel
just don't play a non randomizer file with randomizer on and vice versa
and backup your files just in case
radiant sinew
anybody have any custom skins that are not on the spreadsheets?
minor tinsel
what spreadsheets
radiant sinew
the google docs
radiant sinew
yeah
minor tinsel
i think glacier was one of them?
that hasn't been added to the drive
i think someone posted a sans knight
someone also made like a vampire themed knight
wicked berry
There are the challenge skins.
minor tinsel
oh right, those too
wicked berry
There's emotion knight
minor tinsel
but there's a pin for that
wicked berry
If you want a skin that's not on the drives you have to either do challenges or know someone who owns one.
minor tinsel
well, not own the challenge skin
you're not supposed to give those away
only benji
oh yeah, did you end up getting fool skin?
wicked berry
Yeah. Don't share challenge skins. Or private skins without the maker's permission
Yes, I did.
stiff wolf
emotion knight?
minor tinsel
nice job!
stiff wolf
yeah gg
wicked berry
Emotion knight. It's a private skin. Not allowed to share.
minor tinsel
oh ok
is there like any video of what it looks like though?
i've never heard of it
wicked berry
Tbh I don't know how much I'm allowed to say? I've already shown the name in videos just by having it, but I don't know how much I can say past that.
I'll have to ask.
wicked berry
I have inquired and I'm allowed to show and talk, just not give it to anyone.
Emotion knight is a skin that makes the knight more expressive.
minor tinsel
oh cool
wicked berry
It's super adorable
I'll show you whenever I can, right now I'm on data and on my phone
minor tinsel
like, changes facial features?
wicked berry
Yes
minor tinsel
ooh, that sounds super interesting
wicked berry
Yeah, it was made by Cysipy if you know who that is
minor tinsel
i think i've seen them in the discord a few times
wicked berry
Welp, I'm not at home so I won't be able to show anything until monday at least. Much sorry.