Sorry um,, where is unlock all?
#modding-discussion
weak plinth
Should be a button at the top of the screen when you pause
potent dragon
Yea
Thank,,
i dont know if you know but which greenpath warp is closest to the entrance
potent dragon
also theres a red. Number counting down i think pressed sometging by accident
jow do. Stop it
im worried
its next to "set"
i dont knownwhat is is
Its below 100
im scared plea se tell me what it is
its at 30
uhh
nothing happened
whatever
OH IS IT FOR SETTING A BENCH
I THOUGHT IT WAS BAD
bruh i cant talk to cornifer because theres fog canyon electricity following me
this is infuriating
dry snow
yo
jude
the unlock all makes progress odd and hard
you should first find out how to get past that monster
dry snow
any waifu mods?
thick rampart
I had asked where I would have to drop this. I heard this was the right place. I made a light blue cloak version of the Knight using the sprite sheets for the Custom Knights mod
potent dragon
I got descending dark. I’m not sure where I can use that before the fungal wastes
i got half of kingsoul from hornet so. I have no dash
I Really dont know what to do
ember hound
so...
wanna just quickly warn everyone about the Vengefly king fight, especially in randomizers...
If you kill the vengefly king while he does the animation that stops your movement, you get stuck
as a sort of soft-lock
this will only happen in randomizer runs though
as other runs you'd lose the ability to fight him if you don't do it at the time you fight hornet
you wouldn't have the ability to kill him quickly enough yet
errant lance
i'm fairly certain this isn't specific to randomizer
mild lance
dry snow
Maybe with enemy randomizer but I'm not sure
lapis heron
paper apex
So I was wondering, what if the Void upgraded your other movement abilities?
I came up with two things that aren't quite as powerful as Shadow Dash, but can still be a neat little thing to have for exploration or, if used right, combat.
Night Flight: 1 second after your Wings let you double jump, they recharge. This would be useful mostly for exploration, as boss arenas don't usually let you fall for an entire second, or if they did it may be more useful to just land and then get your full double jump/pogo off an enemy.
Unrelenting Charge: Crystals turn dark and charge a tiny bit faster. Not much, but enough to be better in combat. You charge thru enemies without getting hit due to becoming shade-like, and the wave does more damage.
Could be used for combat potentially. Mostly just a neat help for the lazy who wanna charge thru a zone
Was wondering what people would think of these.
olive trail
Instead of aditional jumps, some kind of glide might be better
Holding the jump button in the air would allow you to slowly fall
paper apex
I like that, how did I not think of that? Yeah, that seems better and more useful than something limited to exploration.
silk junco
sounds really good of an idea
as for the flukenest randomized, what if ahem the eternal ordeal but randomized?
low wadi
how often is the mod installer updated/is it still being updated, and if so, how can I update my mod installer when it gets new mods? Just redownload?
errant lance
Wait til Saleh releases a mod to redownload
raw lichen
sigh
errant lance
Love u
potent dragon
Whats the soonest place you can use ddark. I got it from Hornet
I really wanted the dash but. Ok
I want to be able to make progress :(
spiral summit
Question is there a way or mod to have more than 4 saves with out having to manually backing up and sorting saves?
weak plinth
More saves
paper apex
I wonder, could you make it so that death, instead of breaking your soul meter, applies a random Pantheon Binding upon you?
frosty zephyr
Hello, is there any mod that enhance the lightning ? i know in option i can increase luminosity but it is not perfect, is there anything that enhance the halo of light around the knight, or that just enhance the lightning of the game ? thankx 🙂
past thorn
ok, I'm finally gonna get to serious work on Hollow Knight in RoA, someone's helping me, will post progress here
cobalt warren
silksong mod for hk
that'd be neat
would probably be super hard to do tho
might not fit too well into the game either, so maybe not the best idea.
damn that would be really cool
but make it so that the shade emerges in the end and you just get knocked out by them and "win" the fight
because in the end the knight is an unstoppable force, and immovable object in their true form
livid eagle
shovel knight plague of shadows moment
abstract dirge
we dont even need an actual ss mod
im pretty sure most would be happy with a mod that just makes the knight look like hornet
That would need some new animations tho, which is, not a reasonable thing to ask of someone
abstract dirge
Any tips for Mantis Gods?
errant lance
practice? lmao
abstract dirge
@Zaliant#5522 thanks for the very helpful input
I figured the second phase was a tad too unfair due to rng, so the whole fight is the first fight, really. Dont get hit in first fight + spam ddark = win.
Hm, i think it would be more fun if instead of that, they were all like 50-100ms slower for each move and instead had a bit more hp so you cant just ddark spam
errant lance
it's doable without ddark, nail only. I'll give a more in depth explanation. Practice, then, if you still have trouble with figuring something out, watch a video to see how others tackle the same problem you keep running into, or ask, or just practice even more to iron out the kinks
even if you do watch a video or ask, getting in there and doing it is the only way you can reliably tackle something, it literally all comes down to practice
abstract dirge
i do know its possible but it requires a specific strat / movement / mindset
so it feels a bit trial and error-ish, and doesnt let you be very flexible
also, without ddark, i think you can still facetank a bit
anyways i dont want to really put much into this fight, i just wanted a quick challenge
errant lance
you can radiant with nail only
abstract dirge
yea i saw
left canyon
what you guys think about custom knight sprites with all the nail type4s
hushed ether
The sprites might be too small to see the details
finite flare
What do each of these mean? As in what does “true” do
A recommended first run would be helpful as well
dry snow
I would assume that by setting something to true it would randomize that setting
So if charms are true it would randomize them but if dreamers are false then the dreamers would be in their normal locations
vivid dragon
Randomize everything for maximum fun
sharp magnet
has there been an update to Hollow Point?
brittle egret
still working on it
brittle egret
the pun was too obvious to ignore, so i just had to take it
obtuse iron
I'm looking to play the randomizer on Linux. Is there any sort off special thing I need to do to get that set up? Yes... I do own the game through Steam.
errant violet
hey, guys. :) i want to share with you few short clips of Hollow Point gameplay, can i do this here or there is another place for such purposes?
gloomy mountain
Is there an infinite Geo mod and an ak-47 gun mod?
gloomy mountain
I feel like I broke my game
my nail slash became the vengeful spirit
and i don't know how to change it back
and my vengeful spirit is gone from my inventory
vast prairie
that's just messing with the controls probably
also, from the options at the upper right corner
quick cairn
If vengeful spirit is gone, you probably accidentally clicked for the game to take away that ability. The debug menu has a list of skills that you can toggle on and off. You can find spirit and click on it to have it again
errant violet
hi there. wanna share some Hollow Point plays with you. 
at first i didn't even think it's possible, but it is. what a mod! 
https://clips.twitch.tv/AliveCogentElkOneHand - PoP (Grubberfly's Elegy and Flukenest)
https://clips.twitch.tv/AffluentDiligentSageOhMyDog - PoP (DashMaster and Soul Eater)
and some bugs/fun content
https://clips.twitch.tv/FairHonestRadicchioEagleEye - #1
https://clips.twitch.tv/DiligentPleasantCobraYouDontSay - #2
try it if you haven't yet. it's great. 
errant violet
didn't know about it. thanks! 
peak glen
No worries!
oblique cipher
Since when did Hell Mod removed nail upgrades?
past thorn
hey if it's possible in Rivals of Aether, I'm going to add in a custom stage as well with The Hollow Knight as a boss, sorta like how Ridley is a boss in Smash 4
obtuse iron
So how do I install the randomizer on Linux?
obtuse iron
Where is the dll, and where is the mods folder?
weak plinth
?mods
fathom wigeonBOT
Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew
weak plinth
or just run the installer with mono
obtuse iron
I don't have mono installed globally. I just let steam handle that.
Basically the only way that mono is running on my system is if steam runs it.
weak plinth
so get mono and then use that to run the installer
or install mods manually
with instructions pinned in #archived-modding-help
weak plinth
?i
fathom wigeonBOT
Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.
gloomy mountain
Can somebody show me a tutorial video for the customisation of the knight for Mac?
dry snow
i has question
weak plinth
?guides
fathom wigeonBOT
weak plinth
video for customknight on mac, I don't think exists
just follow the guide at the link above
dry snow
k
fathom wigeonBOT
Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew
dry snow
ok boss
weak plinth
or you know, expand more on what your statement even means
limpid mango
Is there an updated custom knight folder?
dry snow
just a question
finite flare
Define not working.
dry snow
so, it is installed
but from what I've heard of, a thing should appear on the main menu
for the randomizer
that loads all the stuff
finite flare
Did you restart the game?
light patio
Question : how many sprites for the knight are there with the custome knight mod? or am i looking at the wrong mod. just curious because i would like to have this as my knight sprite, if thats a possibility
errant lance
when you download custom knight all the sprites that it installs are the vanilla ones, you can see from there
light patio
ah i see, how and where may i see the sprites? apologies since this isnt really the correct channle for it. also are there any places where people make custome spites like those as i mentioned.
errant lance
there is a tutorial in the pins of #archived-modding-help
light patio
oh no the installer works, but i am specifically talking about the knight sprites. Apologies.
(custome knight mod)
do i ping someone or?
weak plinth
you need to edit the entire sprite sheet
weak plinth
pins of #archived-modding-help
there's a repository of sprites people have made
but there's not many b/c it's so much work
light patio
ah alright, i just recently found out on my roleplay server and from watching jocat.
dry snow
Is there any mod that can see which boss I haven't defeated?
severe wraith
actually i have more questions about the load normalizer for 1221. how long would it take to make that?
severe wraith
we know that we'll know if the race gets in around the 23rd to the 25th. still not sure when the event will be though
fine i'll leave smh
i kinda wanna test it out and see how much longer it makes the run. 2.5 to 3 seconds might be okay
fair cosmos
idk why we are doing this
past turtle
beautiful
obtuse iron
Does the mod installer work on Linux?
Because currently it isn't finding the Hollow Knight install directory.
obtuse iron
See, the thing is, I can't point the installer to my directory, because the stupid file select dialog doesn't show hidden files.
weak plinth
there should be a "browse" option
so if you can browse to it, even a hidden location, you should be able to select it
you should be able to show hidden files in your file explorer
I don't know much about linux but I'd have to imagine showing hidden folders/files is possible
obtuse iron
Not in this stupid file select dialog: https://imgur.com/a/PPyFciL
fathom wigeonBOT
Saves
Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\``` ** ** Mac File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/``` ** ** Linux File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
obtuse iron
Wait.. the game's not installed in that location.
Actually, I do have the game installed there.
I have the game installed in the expected location.
What version of Mono should I use to run the installer?
weak plinth
obtuse iron
That is a super unhelpful set of steps.
obtuse iron
Because when I tried running the installer with mono, it can't detect the game's install location.
weak plinth
b/c it tries the two windows install locations
it doesn't "detect" your game location
it tries default windows C drive, then windows default D drive install locations
if you say no to both, then you have to tell it where your game is
which you said was at: Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/
obtuse iron
That's the right location
weak plinth
so then you browse to that location
obtuse iron
Except that I can't. Because the file browser that the installer uses doesn't let me browse to the hidden .local directory.
weak plinth
@random wraith
obtuse iron
@random wraith
paper apex
About how easy would it be to make a mod that lets you place a flower at Quirrel's nail T-T
random wraith
just create a symlink and select that
obtuse iron
I'll do that.
@random wraith Should it be a symlink to ~/.local/share/steam/.../'Hollow Knight' directory?
random wraith
yeah
obtuse iron
Thanks @random wraith. Don't know why the simple answer didn't occur to me.
Now, how do I check if these mods were successfully installed?
obtuse iron
Cool.
Well, I can't tell if RandoMapMod worked or not.
Because it said: 'FAILED TO LOAD', and then a few lines below that it said RandoMapMod 0.3.4
The line that tells me there was a failure tells me to check ModLog.txt. Anyone know where that is?
weak plinth
That mod doesn't work with rando3
obtuse iron
Ah. That would be my issue.
I'm using rando3.
Should install rando2 in addition to rando3, or just rando3?
obtuse iron
What should I use for my mapping needs if I decided to do the randomized map layout
weak plinth
Paper
obtuse iron
Cool. Thanks.
plain eagle
I posted a concept for a Warrior Dream gauntlet, fighting at least two at a time and the next spawning in once one falls.
Which bosses would work together okay, and how to set the arenas?
No Eyes + Markoth would be hidiously difficult
as their arenas and abilities dovetail quite interestingly
on the other hand, Marmu would not go well with either arena, as she bounces off the walls
Perhaps the best way to do this is have each pair share a health pool, and despawn one while summoning in their replacement in next.
And probably change the arena if required.
For example, you could start out with Elder Huu and Marmu together.
Once the first health bar is depleted, unspawn Marmu and then bring in Galien.
After the second pair of Elder Huu + Galien have their HP depleted, Elder Huu is unspawned, and then Xero comes in.
Next up is unspawning Galien and bringing Gorb in - and here, change the platforms around to fit Gorb's arena, or some combination of his and Xero's.
Once Xero is dispatched, bring in No Eyes to fight alongside Gorb.
And finally, the dreadful No Eyes + Markoth combo - though having a floor in this last fight of the gauntlet would likely be good in order not to make it too unbalanced, and maybe have better visibility than No Eyes' normal fight.
past thorn
K, there’s been a bit of trouble for Hollow Knight in RoA, production will increase when I get someone to help me.
plain eagle
RoA?
potent dragon
Is there a mod that removes the spiders from Deepnest cause someone close to me is playing but is hugely arachnophobic
vast prairie
spider enemies or spider stuff or both ina single huge sweep?
dapper root
I have an old asset pack that removes just the spiders crawling on your screen, lemme see if it still works
Just put that in D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data
maybe back up the old one in case it doesn't work for some reason
keep in mind there are still spiders, just none crawling all over your screen
gray vessel
abstract dirge
Did mantis gods ever get buffed?
It felt quite slower when i first played it, a few months ago
sleek pelican
Is there a bonfire mod?
sleek pelican
Ah.
Well, i just did a quick google search (should've done that in the first place) and got dissapointed.
Thought it replaces the chairs with bonfires.
errant lance
i guess bonfire and i have a lot in common
weak plinth
It makes the chairs function as bonfires, yes
weak plinth
It makes the wide chairs function as bonfires, yes
scenic barn
What was qol?
cinder dove
quality of life
cinder dove
"QoL: Slight improvements to gameplay (skippable cutscenes/credits, “unfixed” menu drop and storage, etc.)"
scenic barn
tbh, i care more about the lore than i do the gameplay
so qol isnt gonna do it for me
and what did hollow point do?
errant lance
you wont like hollow point then cause it adds guns
scenic barn
What was that customizer for the knight about?
weak plinth
Dammit phone
errant lance
?modd
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Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew
weak plinth
Thx
scenic barn
Oh ok
weak plinth
Just read the summaries doc
silk junco
nerviously looks at the 5knights mod development chat yeah, true
subtle stratus
Does anyone think the Hollow Knight modding community has the capability to expand further beyond slight tweaks and additions
I want something like straight up content packs for it but it's so disappointingly difficult to make custom content because of how the game is made visually
subtle stratus
What it do?
subtle stratus
How does the aiming work because that can be a massive deal breaker
sharp magnet
hold up to aim up, down to aim down (you can hover) and diagonals are while moving and up/down
keep in mind that it's version 1.0.0*.0*
errant lance
making custom levels is still in infancy so you probably aren't gonna really get any bigger than stuff like lightbringer, and maybe some other up and coming mod. stuff takes time and a collab of people to come together and tackle
subtle stratus
Very disappointing games like these just don't have large mod communities
I understand it's very difficult to make something that fits with the assets of the base material but it's still a shame
weak plinth
errant lance
modding staff needs to band together and release a battle pass, money will be the incentive
sharp magnet
"very disapointing games"
how was hk dissapointing?
errant lance
read it like this
it is very disappointing that games like these...
sharp magnet
ok
subtle stratus
Yeah HK is my favorite game of all time
Silksong will probably take its throne if it ever releases 
foggy ore
think about it like this
considering how few people are actually working on mods for this game, it's actually surprising how prolific and diverse the mods are
subtle stratus
Fair enough
I think I'm just so antsy for Silksong I can't help but want something new to explore in Hallownest
Or really anything from Team Cherry
obtuse iron
So, I'm playing the Randomizer 3. I just defeated False Knight. I picked up the City Crest, and the game softlocked. I can't move the Knight, and no inputs work at all.
I can't bring up the menu at all.
Music is still playing just fine.
I can see birds flying in the foreground, like normal.
errant lance
quit out and relog is fine?
errant lance
i've had that happen before with some type of storage i think anyway relogging just fixes it
obtuse iron
Cool
Well, the game just crashed on me again, but this time right after I sat down at a bench.
And I cannot pick up the City Crest.
weak plinth
show your title screen
obtuse iron
I will.
@weak plinth Here's my title screen.
I tried three times to pick up the city crest. Three times it softlocked the game and stopped accepting input.
Then I fought the False Knight a 4th time, and benchwarped out. The gates are down, but I still can't pick up the city crest.
So, I can keep playing the game, up until the point where I want to enter the City of Tears.
errant lance
do you have fireball or dash
obtuse iron
So, anyone know what's up here?
weak plinth
install seanprcore
you're missing it
and get rid of unofficial HK patch
it does essentially nothing
obtuse iron
I see. Makes sense.
@weak plinth According to the mod installer, seanprcore was already installed.
I just removed it, using the installed, and then installed it again.
weak plinth
I keep forgetting that one doesn't show on title
But the HK unofficial patch isn't needed
obtuse iron
I've removed that.
weak plinth
And could be fucking things up
obtuse iron
I haven't tried picking up the City Crest again.
I haven't even launched the game again.
I assume it's fine to have QoL? Or is that also fucking things up?
weak plinth
That's fine
obtuse iron
Are you sure?
weak plinth
Yes
Unofficial patch might not even be causing it. But that's a good place to start before jumping into other shit
near jolt
Does the Bonfire Mod ramp up enemy health or is that just a glitch?
I just hit level 14 and suddenly I'm only able to three-shot tiktiks
rose dove
so, no. i don't think i can get to king's station either. nothing on that side of the city is listed as accessible in the helper's log
errant lance
im not sure if it's in logic, but yeah https://streamable.com/tp19d
rose dove
ah ok. that last bit definitely seems like a soft skip that should be out of logic for me, but i can probably manage it
where do i submit bug reports?
i had a similar issue with getting to the overgrown mound to get howling wraiths. i was able to get there, but i had to do a bunch of pogoing off of enemies which i wouldve thought counted as a soft skip
errant lance
i see your required progression now , i just totally missed it
still however i'm unsure as to why it says you can reach it currently if you have mild skips off
rose dove
i looked at the logic on homothetyhk's github, and what you did to get to the top of the city is in logic and does not require any skips. but weirdly, the pogo off of the background object that they do to get to the watcher knights in any% does count as a mild skip as i would expect
there's an error in the logic on github, which im assuming is the current logic
errant lance
afaik there's no external way he requires bug submissions but if you want to you could message him directly, up to you
rose dove
ok. thanks for your help!
astral vessel
hey how can i get my hands on one of those guns thingies
i will shoot hornet
or wait patiently till it is ready
errant lance
pins of #archived-modding-development
iron shoal
Do Infinity Grimm work in pantheon?
weak plinth
no
iron shoal
Oof, thanks for answer
obtuse iron
@weak plinth I just got around to testing if I could pick up the City Crest without having the HK Unofficial Patch installed. I still can't do it.
Game softlocks and stops accepting input.
I'm running on Linux, if that matters.
weak plinth
couple options:
- try a different seed and see if it happens again
- Try to manually install the linux API that's on the google drive
- clear your registry entries for hollow knight (very unlikely this would be needed, but it's kind of a nuke option)
obtuse iron
What do you mean by clear my registy entries?
obtuse iron
Ah. I see.
weak plinth
it would delete all local progress in the game
obtuse iron
Right.
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Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew
obtuse iron
@weak plinth The Linux API thingy doesn't seem to be available from the google drive.
weak plinth
obtuse iron
Where is that? It doesn't seem to be in the drive linked when you do ?mods
obtuse iron
Yeah. I found it.
weak plinth
obtuse iron
Now, how do I install it?
weak plinth
put the dll in your game files in the managed folder
and overwrite the one that's there
obtuse iron
Cool. Will do. Once I finish this stupidly hard sudoku.
obtuse iron
So, I want to move both the Assembly-CSharp DLL and the XML into the Hollow Knight directory?
@weak plinth Do I want to move both of them?
weak plinth
sure
the dll is what matters
the xml doesn't even run
but you can move it if you want
¯_(ツ)_/¯
obtuse iron
Just tried the Linux API. Still can't pick up the City Crest.
weak plinth
did you restart the game
obtuse iron
I did.
I also, just tried again on a different seed. Still can't pick up the city crest.
steady elbow
It's probably just a linux issue with writing the log files, if had to guess
obtuse iron
So, how shall I fix this?
steady elbow
Not something I can test or fix 
obtuse iron
@random wraith You got any ideas?
Because when this happens, the only thing I can do is close the game from the Linux version of the task manager.
No inputs are all are accepted.
This is really making me want to play HK even more, but also, even less.
random wraith
Pretty sure someone had similar issues and compiled their own API and it worked
Somewhere in modding help
obtuse iron
Huh? How would that help me?
near jolt
Question; what are the three random mods? What's the difference? There's RandoMap, Rando 2, and Rando 3 (item/room)
weak plinth
use rando3
the others are outdated
and randomapmod is a pin mod meant for use with rando 2
obtuse iron
I have no idea what's going on with my game.
Why are we so sure that the QoL mod isn't the cause of this issue?
weak plinth
because literally everyone uses it and is updated regularly
you can try it w/o it
but it won't change anything
obtuse iron
Right. But where are the instructions on how to do that?
I searched, and couldn't find those instructions.
So IDK what to do here.
near jolt
What is the "Cursed" thing mean?
For randos
Eh, I'mma stick with No for my first rando
vestal cradle
iirc cursed turns everything non-essential into 1 geo
abstract hornet
It also randomly curses your descendants to the tenth generation. But mostly your run will be much harder.
abstract hornet
Monomon going for cheap these days.
near jolt
Wait so do you get items that aren't the masks from beating the big three, then?
Or am I getting Monomon twice?
abstract hornet
There will be item drops in their area. You could get anything depending on the degree of item randomization you chose.
near jolt
... Something tells me I shouldn't have bought the Monomon mask
I forgot about Infected Crossroads happening
weak plinth
You can get into Fungal now tho
near jolt
I just started the game I'm not ready for Infected Crossroads
Yes, truly.
Yeahhhhh, I am not ready for infected. It's rewind time
New seed, Dreamers are N O T randomized
And yet according to Quirrel, one of the masks are still in a shop
And two more are in the Abyss
near jolt
Ooh, Grimmchild for free, thank you game
... I realize now what this means for me. Oh no.
near jolt
Guys I despawned Zote XD
dry snow
editing the idle sprite was a hassle aA
silk junco
isn't there a hollow knight (pure vessel) custom spritesheet already?
snow swift
Im having a problem with the game when it comes to mods, it seems like whenever I install mods and use them, the game starts to lag like crazy. It keeps up the FPS, but whenever I kill an enemy there is at least a second of lag, its gotten me killed a bunch of times, and also it takes nearly 30 - 40 seconds to load the next level when the game for me is on an SSD. Before the mods it was fine but now it chugging
Any tips on how to reduce this stuff?
I only have Benchwarp, QoL, Unoffical, EnemyHPBar, CustomKnight and debugmod
Damn I thought it was an issue
But I like the HP bars lol
Is there a way to keep the debug mods HP bars on without having the menu open?
Welp damn guess I just gotta have no HP bar again
I uninstalled EnemyHPBar and my FPS went up to 400
damn
foggy ore
What is the cause of the leak? Anyone know?
I haven't been here in a while so this is news to me
Nice
I'm pretty sure it's on the enemy list tbh
foggy ore
this is what causes the hpbar for dead enemies to not just suddenly vanish
but I'm sure there's a better alternative
agree to disagree buddy
tbf that hook runs so so so rarely
wait
they aren't getting unloaded when the enemy dies?
weak plinth
What else in that mod could even cause a leak?
foggy ore
idk
placeholder enemies are being killed
also, sfg
the images are static tbh
hmm
I honestly think it might be reflection
because we didn't have reflection helper when I coded this
so it's using slow reflection
idk
tardy river
I was thinking about making a custom knight sprite sheet, but I was a little turned off by how confusingly laid out it all is. I found a set of images that label each sprite, but they are still all over the place, and it would be difficult to add animations to.
So, I had the thought to make a quick script that "decompiles" the sprite sheet into individual images that you can more easily edit frame by frame, and then recompile them when you're done. Would this be useful? Has work like this already been done?
foggy ore
I don't think it's been done
but sure
I mean, the sheets are already pretty comprehensive
but I guess it sucks if you wanna do more in-depth changes than just some minor recoloring
weak plinth
Mage posted something they were using to make the Christmas skin
tardy river
Ah, thanks! https://github.com/magegihk/HollowKnight.GODump was exactly the sort of thing I was looking for
foggy ore
shy tundra
errant lance
?i
fathom wigeonBOT
Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.
dry snow
hm, wish I can do more than just editing sprites from within the custom knight mod
like any of the sprites in the bg, enemies, other bosses etc stuff like that just for fun I suppose
a variety/range of more sprite sheets to work with
plain eagle
f
dry snow
slender ether
foggy ore
you can, LolitaReishi
all you gotta do is code a mod similar to custom knight that does what you want it to
foggy ore
I don't think it'd be hard to adapt customknight to deal with other sprites
in fact I think it's been done before
dry snow
elfin rivet
How does gear progression work with blackmoth
vestal cradle
select your hollow knight installation path
coarse bluff
so it wont work for cracked version?
vestal cradle
no
vestal cradle
it still won’t work
coarse bluff
did u try it?
foggy ore
It's coded (by myself and others) to check for pirated copies and cracks
So no it won't work
Also, you gotta have guts to come to the official hk server, where the game devs are, and just throw it out there that you're playing a pirated copy of a stupidly cheap game
Just buy the humble bundle
It's 25$ for a shit ton of good games and your money goes to the fire relief efforts in Australia
HK is ofc part of the bundle
Can someone link this for me? I'm on mobile
grizzled cove
That hollow knight game looks interesting
sharp raft
yea it has some nice art.
dry snow
the soundtrack and the story are pretty weak tbh
nocturne arch
alpine ether
please unexist
wet urchin
i second this
errant lance
ty benjo
alpine ether
it was gradau but ok
errant lance
ty benjo
alpine ether
ok boomer
sand forum
he got 2 arms
obtuse iron
So, I'm playing Rando3, Items only. Is it possible for me to fight Grimm in his tent?
knotty relic
yeah
it just randomizes items
so you'd have to find grimmchild somewhere else, probably
dry snow
does anybody know about when hollow point is gonna get released?
brittle egret
still, working on it
foggy ore
Get out of here
Honest tho, TTacco is taking his time with it to make sure it's going to be the most bestest mod ever
dry snow
I suggest lowering the audio for the gun etc, sounds a bit too loud from the main game
unless that's already been done
brittle egret
actually its taking its time because i havent done jack shit in the past week with it since i was preparing for the upcoming school semester
also yeah im looking into that sound issue atm reishi, until i find where the game holds the audio stuff at least
also gradow divinity 2 when :pepehands:
dry snow
👌
foggy ore
There's also that issue of you keep firing forever
The sound trails off into the distance
Like a knife from a missed cast of fan of knives
dense wigeon
Using the bench warp beta, had a bench not save when I sat in it - not sure if I just warped away too quick or if this is actually something that needs fixing? https://clips.twitch.tv/IgnorantVenomousStarlingWOOP (it did save when I went back & sat again)
vast prairie
along with unlocking the elevator it opens
small spoke
what mod lets you replay PoP?
small spoke
thanks
cursive stag
Is there an asset that you can find in a data dump of the game that will tell you which voice clips play with which dialogues?
vast prairie
voice clips?
cunning tinsel
Hollow Point is just good. Like I saw the video of it and my god. I love it.
icy nest
Hey, gamers !
For 4 days, my best friend and I have been working on a mod for HK. The mod is a balance overhaul focusing on Charms. As a matter of fact, we believe that a lot of Charms are either too weak or overly situational. For those you are try-harding Godhome, you know what I mean.
We have good notions about Game Design and Game Art, but, unfortunately, none in coding. Therefore, we are seeking your help 🙂 The Patch is pretty dense, so we don't expect one single person to help us on everything. Anyway, any piece of help would be nice, we just want to make the game even more perfect than it already is :D
Link to the short Patch notes : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cj-FvIcalsXj4hHioUDtbYIBUnud-zSQJyTAzBgZ-Us/edit?usp=sharing
Link to the full Patch notes : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XlCG4u_EOjbkB67iZ4LUBbj3Rd5h1xyb1SCXRnsivpE/edit?usp=sharing
If you are interested, want to know more or if you have any critics, please msg/ me or FallinBlood#1073.
Thank you for your attention. Have a nice day !
errant lance
this looks pretty okay on paper, my biggest issue with balance is here with base nail this is gonna get outta hand really quickly, cause the game is centered around nail and spell charms 2nd this makes charms kinda first but more to play with, so i would suggest taking a bat to base nail as a result tbh, otherwise people are gonna run through bosses like a hot knife through butter
foggy ore
Implying they aren't already
All these charms do is make the game easier in some way or other, but the game is already plenty easy as it is
That's precisely the issue I had with bonfire
The game is already too easy, so bonfire made it a joke
weak plinth
especially for people who install mods. who tend to be on the higher skill end anyways
foggy ore
Not that that's entirely bad
Hollow point makes the game trivial
But hell, is it fun to play
Same with blackmoth and redwing
icy nest
I don't get why it would be centered around nail beyond the upgrades. This patch proposes precisely to make other builds more viable. Also because the damage are scaling, they won't be high in early-mid game.
foggy ore
Currently there are two main basic combat builds
"destroy everything" and "destroy everything but faster"
icy nest
And it's kinda weird because the game is rather known to be hard than easy. Have y
ou consired the fact that only 5% of players did the 1st pantheon for example?
vestal cradle
what do you mean thorns build isn't real
weak plinth
you mean nail 0
icy nest
"What do you mean "other builds"?" -> Well, clearly you haven't read my post then, the long one at least. I have suggested some builds at the end of the long post. I also explain all changes. I tried to make most charms viable in late-game, which isn't the case right now, and I though these changes for most players, even if it's hard, rather than trying to make it good just for top 5% players such as myself.
weak plinth
nail 1 is managable
vestal cradle
considering there are only 2 attack types, trying to make more than 2 builds is kinda hard
foggy ore
I read your entire patch notes, the full one
Yeah, what ching said
You can propose other builds
weak plinth
charms late game are pretty pointless
foggy ore
But the fact is, it won't make a difference
weak plinth
and only make you stronger
icy nest
@vestal cradle Are we playing the same game ^^' ?
icy nest
There's also Shadow dash, poisons, dreamshield, etc. These all exist, but suck because of balance.
vestal cradle
nail is worse than spell, so imo instead of trying to make more builds nail builds should be balanced to be as good as spell builds
foggy ore
It's not because of balance issues that those suck
icy nest
@weak plinth When you're really good at the game, yeah. But most players struggle at the game.
foggy ore
They suck because they're gimmicks
icy nest
That is clearly not an argument.
vestal cradle
Sharp Shadow is damage on top of your regular damage, poisons (i assume you're talking about Spore Shroom) isn't really that useful because the damage isn't too high and only effects an area, Dreamshield is just bad
weak plinth
if you want to balance around a dreamshield or "poison" build, you'd have to nerf the nail and spells to use them and buff the other thing
foggy ore
They're not central game mechanics
weak plinth
cuz if you don't, you're just making the player stupid strong
icy nest
@vestal cradle TThat's what I'm talking about, balancing. I suggested increase damage on a lot of things, especially in late game, because they aren't viable in comparision to nail or spells.
vestal cradle
also tbh, the main reason i use sharp shadow is for the dash distance increase
foggy ore
I use it cause I'm edgelord
But, mick also has a point
If nail and spells are already broken as it is, making other builds stronger than them isn't balancing
icy nest
@weak plinth Other builds have their own weaknesses, I thought it all this way. For example, Lifeblood allow no heal, poison requires to focus which makes you vulnerable, etc.
weak plinth
except you still have your nail and your spells
which late game, are still really strong
icy nest
@foggy ore Again, I don't think they are. You are only seeing it by your own experience. Most players don't make it to Godhome, only a few do or able to do the late game. It's not easy, it's just good for you.
weak plinth
so if all you're doing is buffing alternative dps sources, you have to nerf the main two as a trade off
vestal cradle
going solely of steam achievements is not a good way of judging a player's average skill
weak plinth
50% of players don't beat the first boss
icy nest
Why, you can't equip everything at the same time. Also nail builds require to master the patterns of every boss, which is time consuming.
vestal cradle
only 67% of players beat False Knight, there's also the whole steam users having massive backlogs
icy nest
@vestal cradle Well, they are data, and data allow to think beyond personal experience. However, from the scope of a player, data is always limited.
noble socket
Sorry to interupt the convo boyos but I was wondering if someone is making a mod about revisiting the White Palace & making it a bit different?
noble socket
Ahh I see, thanks
weak plinth
and none are in development
foggy ore
None that I know of at least
I think sfg was messing with some new maps but I might be mistaken
Also, Abandon, even if we could rely on steam achiev stats for balancing purposes (which we can't), I still don't think it makes sense
Because the average player who had trouble with this game doesn't come here looking for mods to make their lives easier
People usually turn to mods to extend their experience past their first play
foggy ore
Yeah
Also the double mp on bosses makes no sense
And the whole caveat of "you're close to enemies" sounds nice on paper, but it seems to forget that the nail is already like 0 range
icy nest
Steam achiev was just an illustration. I read many posts complaining about the game difficulty, and I'm also personally struggling while trying non-nail/spell builds even with my current level (I beat the 4th pantheon, doing bindings now).
Soul eater only cost 3 and it gives more souls than before against multiples enemies, what are you talking about? Plus the fact that ytou don't have to hit to get souls. Makes a big diff
weak plinth
soul eater is one of the strongest charms in the game
right now
you can spam the shit out of spells with it
it generates so much soul
icy nest
Yeah but it's just a bigger copy of soul catcher, which annoys me.
Also you wanted nerf of spells, here is a little nerf. Not so much I'd say.
weak plinth
if anything, buff soul catcher. cuz it's terrible
icy nest
Whaaat? Man ^^ It's so good for only 2.
weak plinth
the spells are still doing the same dmg if you change the charm
icy nest
That's not how you think a build. If you nerf soul generation, you will eventually cast less spells, which lead to less damage, overall.
Though, I though about removing the increase size of shade soul on Shaman Stone, but removing it removes the multi-hits on a lot of bosses.
errant lance
spell twister basically gives you a free 3 hits of soul per 9 hits, soul catcher would have to something like 11 hits to achieve the same result
icy nest
But it doesn't give soul that is used also for healing purposes, which can be a big deal. But I agree, spell twister is really good.
You can't expect a charm looted in the early game to make you cast twice as more spells or so.
errant lance
right after hornet
vestal cradle
so uhh
errant lance
or in like 5 minutes if you shade skip
vestal cradle
how early you get the charm does not exactly equate to how good the charm is
icy nest
Spells are good even without shaman stone. Vengeful spirit is a nice aoe with screen range. Nail is about 0.1 mm range (kidding).
icy nest
Agree ^^ Especially howling x)
vestal cradle
it makes vs more consistently hit twice
errant lance
honestly the size increase is what breaks it
icy nest
From what I've seen and from the wiki, it doesn' tseem that shaman stone make howling and dive bigger.
vestal cradle
i don't think it does but the VS size increase is busted
errant lance
but there are a couple ways to avoid double hits if you want to nerf spells
icy nest
dunno, I don't want to make the game harder ^^
vestal cradle
there is a difference between making the game harder and nerfing something that's way too strong
icy nest
A straight damage reduction is a possibility, but I don't think it's the problem.
vestal cradle
part of the reason why the game gets too easy is because spells are crazy strong
icy nest
Well, because spells and nails are the only viable builds right now, it would definitely make the game harder.
errant lance
a straight damage reduction wont fix double hits which will still make flukenest useless
vestal cradle
flukenest 
icy nest
It got nerfed pretty harshly 😮
vestal cradle
yeah because pre-1.3 it was busted
icy nest
Yeah, kind of a super wombo shotgun xD
foggy ore
As it should be
vestal cradle
although now it's just kind of in the tier of useless/situational charms
errant lance
if the knockback was reduced and speed was increased on fireball to decrease chances of double hits then we may be on to something
without nerfing the damage
vestal cradle
the situation being watcher knights
icy nest
@errant lance Just removing the size increase would break double hits because Shade soul could no longer hit multiple times. But it could kinda make the spell way weaker than now.
Also flukenest is a tough case because just re-increasing the damage makes it a weapon for murder against some bosses. 3 notches to change your basic shade soul for a shotgun is way too expensive.
errant lance
also we have to look at why people struggle at the game in the first place
and i dont think it's cause of lack of damage
icy nest
Not all changes I proposed are about damage, that's the thing.
weak plinth
fluke also doubles your dmg
vestal cradle
well speaking from personal experience, the reason the game challenged me as a new player was not knowing attack patterns of bosses and enemies
my second run through to get stuff like the speedrun achievements were really easy because i already knew all patterns
icy nest
Sure, same as anyone in any similar game. But my point is that most charms wouldn't help you while beating bosses.
weak plinth
fluke is still very strong, just not at the point it was previously being so broken that using it was required
vestal cradle
except for like watcher knights because they're my kryptonite or something
icy nest
Check videos and it'll be ok 😉
errant lance
dont tell anyone but flukenest wrecks WD and isma
icy nest
That's why I did not proposed to re-increase damage on fluke.
weak plinth
also for reference, SC does effectively nothing at 9 hits compared to no charm
and if you like SC so much, SE is triple the effect, for only double the cost
icy nest
I don't like that much, I just think it's good. But your chart is delighting ^^
vestal cradle
this brings me to my point that void heart is best charm in the game
weak plinth
lol
icy nest
You silly !
vestal cradle
any value for free is technically infinite value
icy nest
Well, a value of 0 for free doesn't seem valuable to me xD
vestal cradle
no it's more of a value of 0.1 for free
icy nest
I haven't found anything to do with Void Heart, sorry guys. Though I suggested something on King Soul 😄
dry snow
I'll make it for money
buoyant quartz
idk where the best place to put this would be, but I have a potential bug report for Randomizer 3:
I was playing on Junk Pit Easy, and my first vertical movement (Wings) was at the Pale Ore in Basin. Luckily I was able to do the skip, but looking at the logic, shouldn't that not have been possible to be there without Spicy Skips enabled?
weak plinth
Was lantern available
steady elbow
birthplace can be in logic without wings
buoyant quartz
king's brand was at sharp shadow, shade cloak was at the deepnest vessel fragment
sharp shadow the charm
and you definitely need vertical movement for the deepnest vessel fragment
this is what I made out to be the intended progression
cdash was obtainable without wings (sly's key in waterways), but I don't think that would add any of that to logic
steady elbow
Ah, the logic was changed for the beta release
I should've put that on the installer by now
But this should serve as irrefutable proof that kanra is to blame yet again
buoyant quartz
lol
dry snow
Hello! I had a question regarding HK mods. Is it even possible for a mod to forces HK active window to stay active even if you alt+tab so that controller goes through even if you alt tab?
dry snow
I was wondering if this is something a modding can fix or if this is something I have to try to figure out from the Windows. I've dug tons and it seems like Windows are not able to do this function even with 3rd party software.
weak plinth
what are you trying to do
if you can't see the window, why would inputs still happen
dry snow
I'm trying to force HK window to be active in a foreground (as done in some games) so that when the HK window is not active, the controller inputs still go through
Apparently it's dependent on game developers to include this function or not
weak plinth
what other window are you trying to do things in while playing the game at the exact same time
dry snow
I'm working on a... complicated project. I currently have 3 players to 1 controller gaming on Hollow Knight. Everything is successful except I just would like to stream this on twitch and alt tab while people push input to my PC
Kinda super hard to explain what I've done in 1 sentence, but I made it work, and just would like to alt tab and have the controller inputs still go through even if the window is not active
weak plinth
you'd have to change how windows works
probably
b/c that's how OS systems work
inputs only go into the active window
dry snow
ya I was thinking that--so nothing from the modding that can be fixed to make the window on the foreground/active?
weak plinth
it'd be shit if keyboard inputs went into all windows at once
dry snow
ya but there was a feature to allow certain keyboard inputs to go through to certain windows that would be super. 😄 Like Livesplit uses global key commands so that inputs go through on that program
If there was a feature*
weak plinth
either that or find some other workaround to your requirement of alt tabbing all the time
dry snow
I'll probably find a workaround. Have tried tons of ways to force active window, and it seems like it's strictly something from game devs or some complicated scripts 😕
Anyways, thanks so much again!
weak plinth
hmm.... you could maybe use a program like AutoHotkey
have inputs mapped to another key combo that could then be coded to interact only with hollow knight
Damn you windows
weak plinth
there's probably a way to make what you want happen, but I don't know what that would be
dry snow
Ya i mean if Livesplit can do global hotkeys as well as other games, it probably is possible. I'm only an amateur Python coder so I would have to do tons of research and still would fail lol
weak plinth
the simplest way I can think of would be to receive inputs on one PC, and then output those to another PC that's running just the game
........obviously expensive
this is essentially what TAS tools do
sort of
dry snow
I guess I'll delete this post after i write this since it's somewhat unrelated to modding. But to explain what I've done is have 3 people connect to my PC, remap all the controller to divide up as necessary. I'm doing that as well on my other PC.
weak plinth
this might be a good place to check out
dry snow
One of my PC that's running Hollow Knight, I just dont have any access to mouse or keyboard (I mean I can, but it would lose controller inputs until i make the window active again)
That's why I would like this function basically. If I'm streaming it, then I would like to have some control and moderate what's happening
weak plinth
can't you do that from another source
like your phone
or another pc
and just let this one run
dry snow
OBS controls on phone?
weak plinth
no, but functionally, once you have it set up, what would you need to change in OBS
that whole segment where it's operating, you shouldn't need to change anything
if you did all your setup properly
dry snow
I have OBS + HK running on one PC, and would like to control OBS strictly. I would also run click on certain things (joining channels) in Discord to allow viewers to hear the runners. 😕 Just need a quick Alt+tab, which might be problematic for runners
Ya functionaly OBS not much I guess. I just want to add more interactivity and more features I guess lol
weak plinth
as in swapping between listening to the teams?
dry snow
Yes exactly
weak plinth
you could do this in other ways
dry snow
Any ideas? I couldn't really think of much after several hours
weak plinth
none of which you probably have the hardware for though
dry snow
Im guessing this is professional hardware
weak plinth
what you're envisioning is getting more into the realm of professional productions
which would require more external audio setup things
like a mixer
dry snow
ya I guess. But all i need is just 1 Alt+tab 
ah I see what you mean
I have digital mixer Voicemeeter...which i also have everythign setup properly but would need to alt+tab...
weak plinth
yeah, it'd have to be external to the machine running the game
dry snow
damn I thought i would never need physical mixer when I have digital mixer 
I see what you mean though
weak plinth
you'd still need voicemeter to send audio out different PC connections
it'd be a mess without more than one source
anyways....... I'd suggest visiting that tasvideos link and asking in the forums about your issue
they'd be much more suited to answer that level of tech questions
dry snow
Sounds great. Thanks for all the ideas and help
Woudl you like me to delete these posts
dry snow
alrighty!. I'll definitely checkout tasvideos
dry snow
naw it's fine. I'm hyped for it 😄
is it possible to advertise in HK channel? I'm too scared to be yelled by the mods not to advertise
People might have fun watching us do weird stuff with 3 poeple in 1 controller 🙂
dry snow
Cool! Thanks so much!
weak plinth
reddit would jump on it probably
dry snow
Reddit here I come lol
bright lance
Hi. I'm using the mod that allows me to warp anywhere and also deploy benches. The problem is after I deploy benches I can't use them.
dry snow
@weak plinth Just wanted to update ya. After you gave me the physical hardware idea, I think I found super long-winded solution. To sum, If I use Stream Deck's built in global key feature + Voicemeeter mod that was introduced last year, it would work. Basically, I got a Voicemeeter VBAN to receive Discord Team1's channel from Computer A. I also got Discord Team2's channel from Computer B (directly). I would then have 2 discord accounts logged into each one's voice channel. I would then press Mute on/off on streamdeck to just hear team 1 or team 2 separately. My mic would be all connected to both channels via Voicemeeter VBAN, so both teams would hear me commentating. Solved! 
Thanks again!
olive hill
Is there uh a mod that gives the protagonist a w on it's face
normal root
Nexusmods isn't working at the moment and I can't find many mods anywhere else, does anybody know where I can find some HK mods other than ModDB?
errant lance
?i
fathom wigeonBOT
Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.
normal root
ty
The modinstaller I was linked isn't the most recent version btw, https://www.moddb.com/mods/modinstaller/downloads/modinstaller this is the latest version I have found.
abstract hornet
Good day folks, do you know who made the Zote sprites for custom knight? Or who made other sprites?
errant lance
https://discordapp.com/channels/283467363729408000/586931790208434203/627638698053468160 i believe it was them
@vital fog can you confirm
vital fog
Ye I did the Zote sprites
abstract hornet
Thanks! Wanted to make sure credit is given. Loved the Zote knight. :)
vital fog
Thanks :)
finite flare
Lmao.
Looking at that chat log.
“Do you even know anything about sprites? 
“
The HK server needs a modder role.
vestal cradle
it’s rewind time
elder mauve
Question for modders. How easy is it to mess around with Unity's scriptable objects?
raw lichen
when you have the hard part done but have no motivation to actually implement the boss
https://streamable.com/gmsg6
it would
I'm too busy with another mod though
five knights mod
weak plinth
ur mum
foggy ore
It do be like that
sonic moon
I'm developing a concept that may be used for an expansion later if anyone cares to implement it, as I can't code yet
Well... it's a new Nest outside of the Radiance's reach.
The Radiance doesn't go there because there are wierd crystals
dry snow
sonic moon
Maybe once the concept is full, someone could help
dry snow
Yeah
weak plinth
56 is like.... 12
sonic moon
Anyway, a boss for it I'm working on I posted the art for already
weak plinth
and he's one of the most prolific modders we have
sonic moon
The Lost. Her backstory is that she was once a happy go lucky young mantis, but something happened to cause her to go mad with grief
I also need to name the nest
Any ideas?
Full of cool crystals and untouchable by the Radiance
dry snow
joe
vestal cradle
joe mama
sonic moon
Hollow Knight: Light's Bane
Doesn't ring quite right.
And Sealed nest feels really generic
The Radiance has an aversion to it
Either that, or they never encountered its infection
sonic moon
I'm not following me anymore either.