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But they existed
one of you wont get to experience 2022 at this rate 
game is releasing on january 17th 2009
I got 30 minutes
mossbag said it at the end of his video and mossbag never wrong
that is true
well guys looks like we missed silksong we can try again next time
Who modifies the YouTube data and game release datea
Getting PTSD Flashbacks??
YouTube?
And all that stuff
Oh hello
sigh does discord not support mkv lmao
someone who works at youtube for sure
embed fail laugh at graig
Send pics
not a chance lol
ok hold up
have fun graig
graig
it looks like the character from jetpack joyride jumping on walls
wild graig in chat
cool
BRUH
Happy New Year Graig.
HOLY SHIT SAWS FROM THE INDIE GAME HELLO KITTY
messed up to release beta test footage of silksong bro š
LMAO
I was like hmmm do buzzsaws even make sense in my universe? Ehh who cares
buzzsaws make sense in every world
They didnāt make sense in HK either
make more sense thank in HK
meat boy moment
graig did you make that? 
They are what connects all the multiverses together
Itās rocās odyssey
Hollow Knight: Into the Silkverse
The hit new game from legendary indie game studio
hollow knight has no rexcuse for the lack of slopes
nah they do
geo
fucking slopes are way too hard
Well theyāve committed it seems
if we truely desire to be next gen and GOT, we need to implement slopes
like i dont care about the story graphics or gameplay
if its no slopes, it doesnt deserve getting GOTY
i still have a bunch of edge cases. I got it about 95% working
this reminds me vaguley of the super baby mario sections of yoshi's island and I'm loving it
Hello there my good friends can somebody make the part of my brain yelling to me about how much news we're getting tonight to shut up
your game is looking so good
it's currently "good enough" for the KS campaign, after that i'll iron out the rest
Is there anyone else working on it or just you
Imagine being in night
oh you mean my exact inspiration??
Haha 12:10 january 1st go brrrrrr
Clearly we're meant to work together, when's the onboarding?
The real inspiration was the friends we made along the way
he could walk on walls then
yes
he actually still can, if i disable his max slope
walking on water is overrated anyways walking on walls is where its at
Roc is kinda like sonic, fast paced and sticks to stuff... but with WAY tighter controls
man that sounds cool
he can walk on walls ? š man I wished I could do it
I'm honestly so excited for it (Roc's Odyssey). It feels like it's gonna be one of those games with lots of key moments that are tight and fluid and intentional, and every death is a catharsis where you go "I messed that up here... can do X differently" kinda like celeste's C-sides meets smash bros + sonic + HK. (not the whole game will be a C-side ofc, but that kind of fluidity at its peaks)
Official A year with no news ):
Though that means that the game will be better than ever
i guess this year was truly the year of silksilence
The truth
I love how that phrase stuck :p
hello
hi
hi
ello
Ello
Gardening of course 
Lol you are stuck in the past
||/j||
But still not silksong
Happy new year from where I live
Happy New Year
No sir
I can speak again!
Also sorry about chaining earlier
Reeeaaallly should've stopped when I got the warning
But anyway happy new year!
Cheers to a year of no news!
are you working on this alone or :o
Iāll take your entire stock
Silksong looking real different
New art style
brought to you by the directors of squid game, masahiro sakurai, and fall guys
Happy new year and one year of no silksong news/j
Hopefully January is kind to us.
Fun fact: When I was playing hollow knight, I thought the mantis lords was in greenpath (I mistook the traitor lord's village as the mantis village) and thought hornet was leading me to them.
I just thought: "Damn bitch I didn't even beat false knight until a 100 tries. Now you want me to fight possibly one of the hardest bosses in the game? Team cherry does not fuck around."
Makes sense
Yāall hyped for ss this year???
what happeend to this game? did the dev team disband? publisher/company closed down or something?
Let us hope 
They're working on the game
any sign they're still alive?
Nah.
They're still working.
We might get news in January or February. 
did they postpone to work on something else?
No
you're being paranoid
Nope. Game dev just takes a while
they are alive and well
dont worry about it
god i sound like "there is no war in ba sing se" or whatever
Unless Australia sinks into the ocean we're good
"There's no silksong cancellation. Team cherry is well and alive and are diligently working to give us good game.
"
TC is based in Adelaide right
yes
Alright who added a clown emote to my message
Member when everyone said ss would release in 21? I member
I āmember when people speculated a 2019 release date
it was great
WOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAA BABY. NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSS
any silksong
lol no

December believers in shambles
technically in june
December 2022 believers when
It will probably be out by then
no silksong
I think in Feb.
I donāt think the GeForce leak is real
I mean like the date it says probably isnāt gonna be the one
Its my only hope
I already forgot about that
You are kidding me there were December believers
About what

The date
Oh ya,
about what
Maybe dreams are really something after all- elder bug or something
When youngerbug
Always remember, in your dreams silksong can exist
It literally was
but what if you dream no more
Just make sure to wake up if you see the sun coming to life
I had a release trailer as a dream
dreams are never as good as reality
It said March 19th and thatās what Iām gonna believe
My dreams are weird

In the second one the demo was released and I was losing my shit trying to get it
But I couldn't, it was hell
DESPAIR CULT
Danganronpa
Wait

SILKSONG 2022 LETSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO? Hopefully Feb/March
Relatable
January (news)
February (release date trailer)
March (release)
2023
no.
2077

3005
3500
4006
There probably wonāt be news then other news which is a release date
Actually, I think silksong will release the 2nd of January
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But for real, the time silksong gets announced this place will go boom
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Never 
TC somehow living for 731894781932 years just to complete silksong
There families will continue it
silksong is a heirloom
Ari Jr Jr Jr Jr Jr Jr Jr.
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Silksong plot predictions?
hornet kills enemies, which affects pharloom
Hornet will have to fight some people and get to the place and kill the guy and kill another one and you win but turns out they were good so you kill bad guy
there is no plot
Wow never expected that I thought it would be like mario
lace helps hornet
We all know that the plot to silksong is ||get 3 dreamers and go to the black egg temple to fight thk and become the hollow knight||
The first lace fight looks as hard as hornet 2 and I straight up donāt think Iāll be able to keep up with the speed
you would be surprised at the skill of HK fans
Hornet solos thk
you could also find the knight in kingdoms edge and get silkheart to fight the radiance after thk
i've seen it modified automatically before
my skills the one in question, I can beat almost all the bosses first try now that Iāve played the game but silksong looks like hell for me
Secret ending where you ascend the pantheons and take your place at the peak
Hornet 2 really isnāt that hard
yea
It isnāt but when I first played it I never played a metro vania
well yea after you know how to beat her
Silksong out yet?
So yeah, with practice, lace wont be too difficult
Ya
no 
Not yet
i beat hornet 1 second try my first playthrough but got stuck on hornet 2 for a while
I think they were saying that if lace is equal to hornet 2s difficulty but is earlier ingame that silksong would likely be harder than hk
I dont think it will be at that level of difficulty, and to be fair getting 3 heals in a single go makes it easier
Considering there isnāt like 5 actually alive ppls we fight throughout the whole game I think we might not kill everyone? Like maybe yeah the real evil thing causing the silk or making the ppls have to use silk for some reason weāll probably kill it but like just like in HK youāll usually just knock out uninfected ppls so basically everyone for silksong
ya I forgot about that, game changer 100%
how do people know SS will be in march
that would make things a lot easier, takes all your silk though
dream the speedrunner?
(insert gif)
Which is fine tbh
yea it healing 3 hearts instantly makes up for the cost
no, an actual dream you goofy goober
It allows for more aggressive fights due to rapid healing
unless they decide to be evil and give you 1 silk per hit
Now stalwart shell has no reason to exist 
It takes like 8 hits to fill the gauge methinks
just messing around a bit more with the platforms and stuff
Imagine the mods
In HK you had a soul container. It could hold up to 99 soul. each hit gave you eleven
Mod path of pain
silksong has really changed since edge
Hello graig
In SS you have 9 notches on your silk reserves
Better
How would you know??? 
buzzsaws š
graig carefully creating all of white palace as a reference to his hit indie game
So this is a platforming game how hard do you plan on making it? Comparable to hollow knight? meatboy?
All of HK is just a reference to my game
It is and you should buy his game
it was a joke replying to the video of graigs game
Itās actually a shame team cherry decided to rip off graigs entire game, itās really disappointing
Fucking hell Iām an idiot 
probably like ORI style platforming, with a more refined HK combat and big old world to get lost in
cant believe TC would do such a thing
SHAME ON TEAM CHERRY
Cool
hollow night
howo kyight
Also I hope you guys like secret areas and mini games/puzzles
That sounds actually like hella sick, looking forward to game of the year 3005 or whatever
Who believes in the gforce leak, that silksong will come out February this year? since it is now officially 2022.
Roc release date Silksong + 1
When does roc get a GeForce leak
so pretty much hollow knight
The ori of hollow knight
March 19th because it was in a dream š š“ š
It came to me in a dream
š¤
Is there any info about that happy death game also cause that also looks sick
have a nice death?
Hk doesn't really have Ori style platforming at all
yea. I saw the trailer
When does ori get path of pain
Iām happy it has a release date
When is it
March
the steam page says march 2022
hell ya
honestly its actually closer to Donkey Kong Country but i dont know if any of you have played that so i said Ori lol
first SS now HDD
LETS GO
Do you think in SS there will be bosses like the Collector?
Yes
You want another collector?
what/who will collector collect though
for the flees. no
I wonder what creature silksong will have instead of grubs
Fleas
Why would you ever want that
Summoning enemies, not giving any silk when you hit them; in that sense
Collectors older sister...
Confirmed and true and canon and real
Itās the fleas
ok
oh no idea then
Itās mini god tamers
what wouldn't give silk. void
The Nintendo lady has been terrorized by fleas in her past (sad)
enemies that cut silk? like scissor ones?
Hornet probably drops silk but since we canāt use it we just rub it off
maybe yea
Not necessarily
will be able to make something
When do you think silksong is? Prequel, sequel, both?
if they hit you they could take away silk
Its set in Universe Construct 2210669.9956
YOOOOO (thatās mine)
I used to think it would be a sequel; but now I have no idea
im pretty sure its a sequel
Sequel
Sequel
We can not be sure though
sequal
She got kidnapped on her way to hungry knight
Iām pretty sure itās a sequel, those bombs she has would have been useful to keep people away from the wyrm corpse I feel
Improvisation. Skilled tongue. I giv 11/10.
I like the theory of it being before, in, and after hollow knight.
it says this on the nintendo page
Fair point; but in Hallownest there arenāt any materials for her to craft those, or any other thing for that matter
I think it would probably be Prequel cause TC doesn't really want to make any certain endings canon/not canon and in Sealed Siblings hornet basically dies
Yeah the Nintendo page, that showed ācoming soonā 2019
WOOOOAAAA YEA BOY. sequal
You know thatās just saying itās their second game-
yea its not the best evidence
What bug do ya'll think huntress is? /gen
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what does /gen mean
Genuine
Genuine
and unless otherwise stated she is just a fictional bug
why does the first one have a snail?
all these new declariations at the end of each text thing.. dont really dig it but wcyd
It says in the description shes a old towering huntress waiting for her kids
Her horns remind me of a moose.
How many areas do you think SS will have
at least 7
40
How many did hk have
Characters in HK being ānamedā as real bugs from Earth are the exception, not the rule
at least 7
Y 7 exactly
Hk plus 2 plus various sub areas
HK had 10 areas
-1 area
SS will have 11
Itāll just be hallownest but tinted blue
I counted there are 15 areas in HK
Peaks, White Palace, Deepnest, Queen's Gardens, Greenpath, Pog canyon, Wastes, King's pass, Howling Cliffs, CoT, Godhome, Royal Waterways, Resting grounds, Kingdom's Edge, Crossroads and Ancient Basin
It will be hollow knight B-Side
Whenever an enemy moves it shoots a triple shot at the player
I can think of 6 areas for silksong
wrong reply but whatever
Waiting for ss so long I noticed my hk route jank
Name
HK had 15 areas, 18 if you count White Palace, The Abyss, and Godhome (which I do)
you forgot forgotten crossroads
oh right Im stupid
no it was forgotten
Dirthmouth
also greenpath
Wdym thereās 26 areas in hk
no ?
that plus 2 for while palace and godhome
isn't dirtmouth part of king's pass
The hive is a sub area
true
and hive part of edge
Deepdocks, moss grotto, bonebottom, coral forest, citadel, maybe the worlords tower
Youāre a sub area 
Youāre
hopefully more
You forgot BARNACLE BAY 
I dont think the hive counts as a sub area bc it shows different on the map
This ratio is an area too
what are you talking about?
The citadel might be split into multiple areas
Actually the most excited ngl, that snail looking guy is already my favorite
these are only the ones weve been shown, silksong must have atleast 20
Nope too many areas will be overwhelming
Thereās also the fact that weāve seen several safe places in ss rather than one in hk
NOPE, the little bug with the hat
30
One of my main gripes for HK was that everything had a blueish tint to it. Silksong seems to change that and now everything looks so full of life and vibrant.
200,000 areas 
greenpath
1000000
Compare greenpath to moss grotto 
Well pharloom seems like a much more alive kingdom than hallownest
Queens garden had the best looking area in my opinion
Ye
And the hive
greenpath is not vibrant whatsoever
donāt forget deepnest
moss grotto does look better than greenpath
The reason it isnāt vibrant is because the kingdom is dying if Iām not mistaken
Agreed, one of the top-looking areas for me
with all the extra detail
Deepnest IMO
drueeeee
And silksong seems the opposite pharloom seems thriving, until you arrive
I'm tired. good knight
Gn
my favorite looking area was the abyss watch tower, the mystery of that place is something I vibed with
Pharloom is āpharā more developed than Hallownest
is it just me or are the backgrounds also better than hollow knights
I mean, makes sense
Of course
I mean the hollow knight backgrounds are normal just, wall
Ariās style has improved quite a bit
wow, its almost like it was made by a now more experienced team 
no way
Eh not really, PKās palace isnāt much diffrent than the citadel
how do YOU know š¤Ø
About thatā¦
Itās fucking destroyed 
Summoned
Thereās also layers, I have a cool gif about it but I canāt send it cause on mobile
Indeed
pk's palace is better than every area silksong will have

Well silksong also has buzzsaws
oh
Laces second fight reminds me of white palace. It has a similar aesthetic.
and you can use them
But yeah the difference is that Pharloom is still alive
It's dying tho
I feel like hornet is going to screw everything up
You mean itās white
It has an elegant vibe to it too.
Just by visuals, laces second fight and the bug robot is the bosses Iām most excited for
Yeah itās kinda dying but everything are still up and working
Me too!
And Iām pretty sure hornet is supposed to fix that instead of kill everyone
Pharloom is dying whereas Hallownest was already dead
I bet 100% that you hit the robots head to do damage
The knight: I must end my siblings' suffering and end the curse that plagues this dead kingdom.
Hornet: Who the fuck summoned me?
Or the hand if it slams down
100% of what
REAL circulated US dollars
Sanity
Hi chromium
Where did the ss clown meme come from
Unfunny people
I bet the robot will have opportunities to attack it if you dodge enough or maybe thereās strings controlling it and you have to cut the strings to deal damage
I donāt even know what that is
I donāt have the meme on me
my mom says im very funny 
Good for you
hey Chroma š 
indeed 
also todo enjoyer i see 
I donāt know about you but I want To slice itās head in half and a tiny little bug is inside it controlling it
MMC 2

Katie why did you make clownkin 
A tiny bug on a tiny chair with a lever in both hands and a bunch of buttons
Yes
reasons beyond our understandings
Yeah but at the start donāt we see strings?
Yes
Ya, but this is [[REDACTED]]
this is discord sir
||
||
I think we know that
Oh ya my bad
all good
sometimes we need to be reminded
Y did that need to be redacted
itās discord
I donāt get it
They said the word
elegiggle
(funny and discord)
Fun-

Coral man looks cook
I canāt imagine how hard he would be tho
Seth.. šno words
idk why but he gives me failed champion or whatever he was called
False knight?
vibes
Coral man gives me traitor lord but much cooler vibes
His head reminds me of head on collo chair
It feels so nice to be living the same year SS comes out.
Itās funny to think about how Iām likely going to be in college when ss releases
Traitor lord is easily the weakest boss for me
Can just feel to joy of anticipation already.
Lace gives hornet vibes- wait
hehā
You live in 2070?
inb4 this becomes poorly aged
But hey, think of the bright side! lot of time to play SS on retirement home!
Nope massive Miserable cucumber
on your brand new switch model 21.
Ok one more boss definition and I will go
Idk if I want to play silksong on switch or wait another couple months for Xbox release
The ant queen or whatever gives me grimm vibes for some reason
but like spoilers and stuff idk, also just the pain of waiting longer
Yeah
I wonder if my local retirement home has speed running community? maybe I need to form one.
That will be the most difficult
Iād rather wait longer for a better game than wait less time for a worse game
Same
But yeah, more is not always better.
The ant girl looks super cool also
And while waiting for a not rushed game to come out I shall be continuing to play dead cells and Celeste and hopefully soon, outer wilds
Do you think ss will reference hollow knight
Will Team Cherry sue NVIDIA in February?
Who
has anyone here ever played pathologic 2?
I don't think they will sue..
Indie games are best
but instead they will just post pone the release for 1 year, just to make a point.
If your talking about the GeForce stuff
then
no.
Like they normally have better communities
by virtue of being smaller
Team Cherry is too pure to sue
i only know about Pathologic but not much
Now I shall go back to being salty that I lost to the final boss of dead cells goodbye
Remember the date when Skyrim released? we can get 2/2/22 lol
11/11/11
Reminder not to create some internal parasocial with the devs
They made one really good game so far and we dont know much about them under the hood
MARCH 19, idk why but it just FEELS right
Silksong would have to release during the 22nd month then
Lack of SS is a void, that eats us all inside, little by little. It needs to be filled, with goob of happiness. Lets hope this year comes with lots of happy goob.
Same way how people talks about how generous this dev or that dev despite only making one good game so far
we dont know them YET
bug fabl
But in hollow knight is just your average game tho.
Just hope ss doesnāt over shadow any games when it releases
I agree, SS is Void. So is Hornet.
I hope in SS Hornet will get alternative costumes and masks.
hollow knight was released in the same period as breath of the wild, so i guess tc doesn't care about it
Ok but
That wont happen.
But they werenāt popular then
Well guys I gtg now I need to restock on baguettes, for it is what you have to do when your cult name is in French

Yes it will⦠with mods
Will there be void version of hornet in SS?
HK was a random indie title, there was no way in hell it would've "overshadowed" Breath of the fuckin' Wild. SS will be bigger, but still nowhere near the point it'd actively hurt the sales of AAAs.
I hope Hornet will get pink bow for easy mode.
SS isn't competing with AAA developers
That would be sweet.
There wonāt be an easy mode
It's gonna cost $15-$20, it's an indie game.
I hope SS will get easy mode eventually.
Not 15
Not all my friends got to enjoy HK because it was too hard.
But as game-journalist I can't imagine myself playing this Dark Souls-like game without one!
Why not 15
To cheap
February would be a dangerous month to release SS. Horizon Forbidden West, Elden Ring and Dying Light 2 are all releasing in February.
No such thing
I hope it wonāt. Just so everyone gets the same experience
thats now 
yeah there almost definitely wonāt be an easy mode, but I mean, I donāt see the issue
I got better one
idk tc already commented that the difficulty would be at the same level as hk
March 19th donāt @ me
not everyone wants the same experience
Ahh the debate of difficulty modes 
It won't be same experience. if they just keep dying, they will hate it.
but yea, december gang seething rn
Obligatory "just git gud".
there already is an easy mode, if you mod in debug and increase some values
Probably harder because the way they have to make it faster for hornets style
but thatās just inconvenient
I mean, not everyone's going to be playing on PC either.
yeah and that
At the same time you get 3 HP per heal
I play on switch. No modsš„²
True
there is an easy mode tho, its confirmed
Tbf switch is the best way to play ss and hk
steel soul is hard mode, regular is easy
for me HK difficulty was just right. I wouldn't want it any easier either, I like the challenge.
Oxymoron
but at the same time its frustrating to see some not to enjoy the game at all.
Regular is hard, steel soul is harder
yeah i believe that at least the bosses will have a slightly higher difficulty than the hk ones bc hornet mechanics
wow, its almost as if thats the yoke
Schrodingers 
Silk Soul
Agreed. Iāve been a console gamer since I could play games I should know.
HKs movement was simple but perfected, I hope SS with all its movement can match that.
i mean compared to steel silk sounds a bit weaker, maybe its something like less health? idk
Ss will outmatch it
It gets frustrating quite fast to die on controls.
I bet it will be more fluid
one could say..... it will be silky smooth
Steel song
By a lot
More movement options usually makes things more messy, and shown on the trailers all that movement is not that straightforward either.
Nah it gives you more choices
Choices sure, but is it better?
I bet at first it will be confusing but it will be easy to get used to
I prefer complicated movement tbh 
Just like in Doom eternal comparison to doom 2016?
It also makes for more ways to go and for more play styles and skips for speed runners
also thereās a grapple so silksong is already 30 times better than hk
? Isnt doom eternal 304x better than doom 2016?
I honestly don't agree. There's the combination of Hornet's instantaneous, "stronger" heal and the fact that bosses appear to not only stagger for longer, but hitting them doesn't end the stagger. They also don't appear to be that much faster - but in all fairness we've only seen early-game bosses thus far. I still think it's too early to conclude whether they'll be "easier" or "harder" than HK bosses, assuming they're even comparable at all.
well, we wont know how much better SS is than HK, remember, they are naught but human, dont get too hyped to the point where its impossible to meat your new standard
In terms of movement at least
For hard mode the initial menu title will change from "Silk Song" to "Skill Song"
What will we do if itās shit?!
I liked Doom 2016 much better. In core it was just better game. Eternal just felt bloated.
I'm gonna play it, what about you?
Doom eternal was so good. The fast paced combat and the movement options was amazing
Many many people agree that doom eternal approach to movement made it a better game
Even if it sucks ass, I will play it
That solves it.
I hope Silk Soul isnāt only a permadeath mode. Perhaps AI changes and more complex enemy movesets
We shouldnāt compare doom and hk since itās pretty different
the aspect of if better is more is still relevant.
More accurate comparison to Doom would be Animal Crossing of course.
Yeeeees
what about axiom verge 1 vs 2 then?
Not really
that was even more of a proof more is not always better.
The best Doom is doom 2. Anyways back to my cave
Doom 2 just works, no bs.
When itās team cherry tho. Iām sure theyāll be fine
If game is perfected, has solid core, perfect pacing, its hard to make it better by just adding tons of new features in the next game.
I mean, by all means, add new stuff, change things up..
but there is a limit to that.
Next game meaning ss? Or Zote Boat?
I think most of the time fans just want new content, story, bosses, challenges, want to see the world open around them.
Do you think weāll ever get zote boat
sure new features are nice and dandy, but mixing up things won't always be upgrade.
I don't really know what your point is but using random unrelated examples as evidence to support the extremely vague and generic notion of "more isn't always better" doesn't really prove anything. Like yeah, adding a ton of uninspired content solely for the sake of having content can make a game feel bloated, that's a given. That doesn't mean new and original content shouldn't be added. SS isn't an expansion to HK - it's a totally different game with a totally different style of play and I don't know where the hell you're going with this weird allegory.
I can't tell if you're joking or not
It started as joke but now kinda serious
Literally never going to happen but go off
I mean the probability is not good, but never zero
type of game does not matter to this context.
Right cuz zote canāt do shit
we wonāt get the zote game because it sucks and it was always a terrible idea
Ye
It kinda does?
Ah a new year, a new hope
every game has it content, and to be fair 2d platformers are even more sensitive to changing up the controls than any other game type.
messing up with already perfected controls will feel really weird.
But... SS isn't HK. It's a different game. Not every 2D platformer is identical and there are a ton of incredible ones.
They may be perfected to hollow knight but hornet is different meaning there no longer perfected
Wat
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I disagree that HK had perfected movement anyway
This is just sake of argument.
Why are you operating on the preconceived notion that SS will be worse than HK by default just because the movement is different?
HK movement was incredibly tight and responsive. Doesn't necessarily translate to perfect automatically.
Kirb using long words pog
I always use long words
HK has movement thatās good for what it was doing with its movement
Ok fair
which is very little
Kirb, seems we are not on the same wavelength here.
I'm not sure what are you "protecting" here. I'm not attacking SS or team cherry here. just talking about context of game making in general.
Sorry I just disappeared. Had to do something..
Anyway I'd love a little wholesome moment where if you gave Huntress enough food and her kids ate their full, instead of being hostile she just warmly thanks you and gives you a tool. (Huntress dagger sounds really cool as a tool)
and then she eats your organs
even more wholesome we should be able to feed sherma to the huntresses children
What if huntress the new jiji
Huh? That... wasn't my point? Metroidvanias come in all sorts of shapes and sizes, there isn't a "perfect" control system which if changed in any way will result in a lower quality product.
corpses are collectable items
Someone: What content do you guys think will be cut
Me: Maybe-
You guys: Sherma. In half please

She retrieves your silk cocoon from anywhere in pharloom. But at this point the cocoons aren't that important to retrieve unless you have rosarie strings.
It makes sense tho right
Huntress is the new Huntress.
Not sure if Huntress would fit
Hornet works at a mourge in Pharloom. That's what the gather quests are.
KIRB
Nani
I SWEAR

We never got to know the deal with Esmy š¤
We did
Waaaat tell me
Kirb if you bring up bobbi bill
ok so imagine Sly right
That's Esmy
what
Yeah Iām confused too
Emsy is the same species as Sly. Some mistake them for brothers.
Isn't Esmy that dead corpse in Kingdom's Edge?
Yes
No - that's a Great Hopper.
Wat

It actually is
yeah itās a great hopper corpse that Oro dressed up as a Nailmaster because he definitely doesnāt need therapy
This is all a joke isnāt it
āstronger brothersā refers to the great hoppers that drop down when you beat them up enough
The great hopper thing is not a joke
this part isnāt
No, the corpse outside Oro's house genuinely belongs to a Great Hopper, this is confirmed in WJ.
It does look like a great hopper
The esmy part is a joke
Or at least i think kirb is joking about esmy
It's a bit hard telling which is jokes from kirb

Not that wat kirb is saying about esmy it feels like itās leading to a joke
The Esmy thing was indeed a joke.
Let's talk about the citadel

It's big and it's tall
It sure is
Esmy is just Slyās side hoe
Is let's talk about citadel the new let's talk about tool
Yeah probably
I've not seen let's talk about tools lately
I talked about tools to death at this point.
Let's talk about tools!
Ever since i forgot about this server
Iāve THOUGHT about tools to death
thools
Hoping for a silk tool. Or a thread tool similar to the spike ball thing hornet has.
Thulecite tools
So uhā¦. any tool ideas?
Boomerang tool.
My favourite tool idea so far is the "Blackwyrm Blade", Hornet stabs herself with it and turns into Blackwyrm for 30 seconds.
KIRB
pimpillo with a metal barrel loaded with a rock attatched to it
What's with pk's kids and stabbing themselves?
How will they replace shaman stone since they have to since itās one of the best charms
Shaman Stone a lil OP
Yeah
Not everything has to be replaced
Runs in the family ig, PK stabbed himself too. If not literally then figuratively.
I know.. but shaman stoneā¦
Maybe give a silk enhancement tool. Something that'll give your silk spells a boost.
Yeah
I hope there is a tool like Steady Body
I mean itās not that complicated to replace it if they want to
just add a passive tool or crest with the same effect
There should be a tool called "Wyrmbone". Idk what it'll do, but it should be called that.
A little spool where hornet stores extra thread and when she uses silk spells she uses that extra silk.
probably given by the Weavers
Hornet either steals your bones or she takes less damage cause she has strong bones/j/lh
How many of you will use the saw
Huh I wonder if Hornet has bones actually. Herrah probably didn't but PK definitely did. Well... he used to.
I know I will
That would probably also be a good way to introduce the weavers and silk spells.
You save some weavers and in return they teach you ancient magic from your ancestors. Similar to how the knight learns vengeful spirit. The cutscene of hornet standing in front of a weaver mask might be it.
Me: Sees a hallway of enemies Time to PK the shit out of this place.
Ye
Hornet's ancestors? You mean the spiders? I don't think they used magic.
Yeah cuz silk replacing spells
Silk spells are still spells, but she's not related to the Weavers.
Maybe not. But Idk how else silk skills or spells will get introduced. I thought the weavers might be the best bet.
No?
She isn't.
What? Wasn't Herrah a weaver?
No
NANI
Herrah was the queen of Deepnest, a "common beast". Weavers are foreign, and don't originate from Deepnest/Hallownest.
And how can Hornet control silk if she is not part weaver?
Hold on let me look this up
Spider
Hornet gets her Soul powers from her father, the Pale King. Her Silk and Soul are inseparably bound, and the Weavers probably taught her.
Yeah and the lore behind weaver song
Herrah is natively a deepnest spider. The weavers were immigrants from pharloom.
Never heard this theory before
It's not a theory
they're most likely from pharloom anyway
Everythingās a theory. Some people think the earth is flat, while I say itās round
So in the end Herrah is weaver like?
She's still a spider that could possibly control silk.
Hornet's dad is PK and her mom is Herrah. PK had Soul powers. Her Silk and Soul are inseparably bound. Herrah is not a Weaver. Weavers are foreign. This is all confirmed canon.
Theory isn't correctly used among people it should be hypothesis
It isnāt actual silk but more like soul magic, still if it manifest as silk is probably cause sheās part spider
The Earth is also proven to be round, Flat-Earthers just ignore evidence lel.
I am loosely saying theses things. And wat your saying even tho Iāve never heard before sounds legit. Just donāt take me too seriously
Yes
So what are we talking about I just joined chat
She likely produced silk, but it's unlikely that her silk had the same properties as the Weavers'.
It aināt really silk itās more soul
It's silk
But I guess itās silk soul
silk AND soul
Sounds right
Anyways time to get baguettes now bye
For Herrah it was probably just silk, for Hornet it's SoulSilk ā¢ļø
Silk needs proteins and hornet isn't eating at McDonald's on every bench so soul will have to do
YouTubers are gonna have a field day with ss
HK tubers be dying rn
Yeah
Milk hollow knight mods is my advice 
I believe it's mentioned that Hornet naturally produces Soul-infused silk inside her Pale Shell but doesn't in SS.
Hornet seems to have lost her ability to produce silk
Maybe weavers and spiders are like kin or cousin tribes.
Weavers use their silk to weave stories and spells
Spiders use their silk for battle and defense.
Hornet could learn both due to her half wyrm blood granting her the ability to create spells.
Midwife says: "Amazing things the weavers once crafted on their looms; stories, shields, spells. So much of our history was spun upon their spools."
Which indicates ordinary spiders did not possess such abilities. Hornet does, cos half-Wyrm.
well her silk must be useful in some capacities, kidnapping her doesn't seem like something you'll do if your not sure you can use her
Yeah so I could be right. Maybe weavers silk is magic infused and spiders more like ordinary silk. Since Hornet is half wyrm, her silk is magic infused and can be used for fighting.
Yeah, I agree.
Having magic infused silk from a demi-god does sound useful.
Weavers had magic SoulSilk ā¢ļø, though idk if it was pre-infused like Hornet's or if the Soul was added to it later . Hornet does too, if anything hers is higher-quality.
o w o
I assume even if the weavers had separate soul abilities, in practice theyād apply the soul to the silk immediately anyway
Yeah
Well since I had a theory that the ruler of pharloom is using silk to control the citizens, they might need Hornet silk since hers would arguably be stronger than the weavers.
Maybe weavers teach her ancient weaver magic to perform silk spells.
So does anyone legitametly think SS is coming this year?
I'm on the fence on this one. I'll see what happens.
me
I feel like the cultists went through a lot of trouble to capture Hornet specifically, indicating she'll play an important role beyond deluxe Weaver. Hard to guess what that role will be at this time, but my current theory is that it has something to do with the "Beast" mentioned in PF (who I imagine is the HB causing The Haunting).
I'm probably gonna keep thinking "it's not coming this year"
Which is ridiculous since it's gonna come out eventually
""""eventually""""
I want the game to be over and without bags
I think Herrah was the beast they might be mentioning.
I'd laugh if the cultist bugs mistook Hornet for Herrah due to having both similar Horns and her way of controlling silk.
But maybe it has something to do with her demi-god status. I once read a theory here that the god that ruled over pharloom is dead and the cultists are using silk to keep up with the whole image. Maybe they kidnapped Hornet to replace their god, realised they fucked up and then decided to kill her.
yeah, seems good to me!
The closest to a release date we have is 2022
Since that's what shows up if you search up the release date
It probably isn't Herrah. They'd have no way of knowing about her, it wouldn't make sense in this context, and Herrah is like, mega dead.
And it's below the game tag for Silksong on YouTube
That wouldn't happen!
so true bestie
Yeah but it's just a thought. We don't know if silksong is a prequel or a sequel, so this could very well be before Herrah died. 
But I'm gonna go sleep now. See ya.
i also think that google has some information
Yeah
I'd say maybe February 18th might have new since that's when the original trailer was released
Also E3
or on 24
We're so starved for content that anything even related to the game will make us go apeshit
I would like to see something in February. This is a very important month for the hi community
TC has released plenty of information on SS
You mean a trailer and a demo from almost 3 years ago?
Uh... no. There's a lot more.
Said that it had not seen any new messages from SilkSong in the past year
riddles and edge
Some riddles and a few blog posts?
The developers definitely do not want to tell us at least some information
The SS doc is 140 pages long. You can't argue that we've been "starved of content".
I need ss
TC actually releases information at an average of two times per year, and we have a lot of info.
how many hollow knights have been developed? Years 3-4?
What?
me too
wdym
HK's dev time isn't indicative of what SS's will be. HK was actually quite rushed.
Yeah and SS is better since TC can afford to add more stuff?
Like we could get 25 regions instead of 15
We can only hope that last year's leak from Nvidia about SilkSong's 2022 silkSong date is Feb. 1
Yesā¦itās true
SS is a far larger project and with three people working on a game of that scale it's dev time thus far is neither surprising nor unwarranted.
wdym
I will shit myself if that happens
you also have to consider the amount of experience in developing they got from hk
and budget
The only information about SilkSong last year was the date of the nvidia leak
Like, even AAA titles usually take 5+ years to develop, and that's with companies who have access to a shit-ton of pre-existing assets and hundreds of workers. Obviously SS isn't a AAA game but that should give you a rough idea of just how long games take.
It has been confirmed that Ares iv will be available on PC
Plus TC hired a new coder who probably wanted to start from scratch.
Its been 3 years of full coding ryt? or is it 2 years?
no news today? š¦
1 year anniversary of no news 
Technically AU new years day isn't over
but its very late there
2.5 hours left
You said that the production time of a 3A was 4-5 years, but SilkSong is not 3A. Silksong updated the blog description of TC on February 11, 2019 to make SilkSong, but we do not know whether TC was making Silksong in 2019 when they posted their blog or earlier
Of course, Cherry don't have to tell us everything, but I was really looking forward to the New Year or Christmas greetings.
Yeah I doubt there'll be news but if it does come out in February I will be ver happy
So silkSong may take 3-4 years to produce
I am aware, did you read the whole message?
at least a teaserā¦.
yep
It may, it may not. But even if it took upwards of 5 that'd hardly be surprising by industry standards, that was the point I was making.
If TC starts work on SilkSong around the time of its 2019 blog launch, there should be a good chance it will launch in 2022
Imagine if at 11:59 TC Goes
"Here's a new SS trailer it comes out in February"
happy 1 year anniversary to the last bit of SS news we got
I doubt there will be news, but im very positive theres something (news etc) in feb :V
and maybe march/april release š
Maybe a Feb release???
I want a Feb release so badly
They probably started work in 2018
it Just works
I greet you my unfortunate brother
dw it'll release in Feb ||2048
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at this point Elden ring is gonna release before SS
One day we will 𤔠up for an event and there will actually be news
February is our only chance to find out if SilkSong will launch this year
oh wait-
It... literally is 
I do not remember exactly, but in which of the interviews they said that in the last stages of testing
im expecting march :v
not really?
Feb is where all the HK stuff comes out
I'd just be happy for a 2022 release
none
too early
HK release
First (and only) SS trailer
me too
imagine if they drop a release trailer and it goes "available now"
But there will be another one about Nintendo in February
I'm interested in the price of ss
20 probably
$15-20 yea
I'm getting my ass to the store and buying that shit
way too cheap like always
They won't shadowdrop it
I just hope there'll be a physical copy
WHAT o no I have already spent everything
inb4 team cherry just releases the game with no trailer, no news, nothing whatsoever
If silksong releases in 2023 id be sad
cause my O levels is in 2023 
I'd buy anything from TC for 60 tbh
In the meantime at least I've got a lot of new games to play
The new pokemon, the new fnaf...
Markateing 101
Feb is great bc it's just after my finals
I will be very happy if it is released in February, because there will be Elden Ring and Dying Light 2. I will be very excited
I said "shut up and take my money" during the first trailer. And I hope see little Grimm in this game
Feb is a month away though so aaa idk
I dont think ss will release this year lol
sadly I cant play any of that due to internet issues :v (not my fault, countries fault)
just imagine, later today team cherry says "happy now year" and just releases silksong
I can play in February to three of my favorite game, the premise is silksong will be released in February
does anyone know what the time diff was between HK release date drop and actual release?
I wonder if we'll get an actual physical copy upon release
I think it was like 2 weeks
y'all gotta remember that february really is just another month 
I dont think so but maybe after the game gets released it could exist
it is and ngl I have zero hope
Yea coulda sworn they gave no news last feb
Because my switch needs the room
I don't wanna kill hopes but last time we had high hopes for a date and hyped ourselves up it was a frickin dumpster fire
.. But ..
This is #sk-discussion , where rational thought is but a long lost memory.
Silksong 2077
Can i consider february spring
it is also the the date when the silksong trailer, and hollow knight were released
also nvidia leak thingy (even i f it was a placeholder).
Depends where you live
oh right my bad, silksong is coming in December 2021
expect the worst that way you can never be disappointed
Can only say that the February possibility is very large
Hell yeah dst on february
So true bestie!
now I play 5 pantheon out of boredom
Wdym coming, itās already been released last year
Team cherry said it was gonna release ss in february... february 31
Tc, after all, not in the Christmas and New Year released more news about silksong to us
Silksong release in February, I believe...
doesn't really mean they have have release it then, nothing solid, it's just speculation based on "they did it before whay if they do it again"
Just finished the silk pantheon
idk I'm tired don't mind me
I have a question, who would you like to see in the game the most?
but this is #sk-discussion theres not logical thinking here.
at least the trailer with date
wth is logical thinking? i lost my mind years ago
For me itād have to be the silksong version of PoP, if TC does decide to do it
Have nothing important gated behind it ofc
Yep
almost been a year since the silksong edge magazine news
I would like to see new intersting areas to explore, which is something that its definitly going to deliver looking to all the info we had until now.
? it has already been a year :o
edge was released in what? 29th of december I think? 2020
is the February division taking new recruits?
if there is no information in February I will be disappointed
I want fun and acrobatic bossfights. I want fun acrobatic shit in general
Yeah, and I hope is not like in hk i tough fungal greenpath and queen gardens where the same
when was the latest news?
I asked "who"?
