#sk-discussion

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silver oak
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I do wonder if the gate to pharloom will be open or even accessible at all

quartz yew
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Still wanna know wtf the purple stuff pukebug and some bugs are pouring out. Is it blood or some disease?

silver oak
hidden stone
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I don’t think you will be going to hallownest

haughty brook
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Its something even a big youtuber made in his video (it was Joseph Anderson) and some people recently made some wild guesses about returning to Hallownest not so long afo.

silver oak
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It’s puke

silver oak
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God knows how long his Witcher 3 review is by now

quartz yew
silver oak
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Plus I think he’s making a cyberpunk one as well

hidden stone
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Things that might be explained in the future

haughty brook
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I think the purple color blood is just normal blood. We see diferent types of color of blood from diferent enemies.

quartz yew
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Yeah I'm kind of leaning to that too. It just makes me think that pukebug might be vomiting blood and...that's disturbing.

hidden stone
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Maybe it’s venom or something else

haughty brook
coarse leaf
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its not blood

haughty brook
quartz yew
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Truezotewheeze

hidden stone
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That works too

quartz yew
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Anyway I'm logging off. See ya'll.

hidden stone
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Same bye

quartz yew
sage glade
silver oak
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Oh I didn’t know he was active on Twitter

pulsar pelican
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anything on ss lately?

sinful flare
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Team cherry's been working on it

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I'm pretty sure

quiet wing
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how are people so active here

stoic path
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Fate

quiet wing
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btw, can we just admit that team cherry being super silent is a very bad move from them

copper nest
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I don't think it was all bad

haughty brook
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I dunno, I honestly prefer honest silence rather than spoiling every week a game about exploration and discovery. The same way with Elden Ring, they were radio silent because they just don't want to spoil the big surprises for later.

stoic path
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Yeah, there is a sort of toxicity that comes from the fan base. Not everyone, but a some of the fan base.

coarse leaf
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its an ok mood it makes me think that they'll say something or release the game very soon

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them not being silent won't magically accelerate silksong's development, nor is it gonna calm down the community because at this point the community's just dying for etas

stoic path
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Other than that it is fine

copper nest
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If the fandom get some info they'll always want more

coarse leaf
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exactly

quiet wing
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I think that actually having a post with saying: oh yeah, we are not going to have any appearances this year

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people go wild from uncertainty

copper nest
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Thing is, it's the fandom that expect them to make an appearance. Nothing else has said they will or won't so they shouldn't have to

quiet wing
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So if they remove that uncertainty people in the community will wait much more calmly

copper nest
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People could just say TC are lying and will make an appearance though

coarse leaf
quiet wing
haughty brook
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Also TC is a small team, not a AAA studio with a marketing department that overhypes their games to the skies.

quiet wing
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they have a pr manager

coarse leaf
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also even if they say "hey no silksong this year", people will find other reasons to go wild lmfao

haughty brook
split tide
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I do think that a small post informing people about their stance on being silent would’ve toned down some rabid parts of the community

coarse leaf
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a community that fucking spreads hate because they didn't get silksong in tga etc isn't getting calmed down by simply saying no silksong this year

split tide
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But they’re not obligated to say anything in the first place really

coarse leaf
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remember the situation of this channel during tga? fucking shithole

quiet wing
coarse leaf
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those kind of people will just use another reason to go wild even if they update with some info

split tide
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And people acting like they’re owed information about a product they didn’t even pay for yet is not a good attitude to have

copper nest
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And the hate in Indie world?

quiet wing
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Interacting with the community is a good business practice

split tide
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Like are you a backer?

tardy flare
split tide
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Otherwise nobody is owed jack shit

coarse leaf
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Yep

quiet wing
copper nest
haughty brook
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An artist, a game designer and a programmer.

split tide
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You can only argue that it’s perhaps a poor marketing strategy

quiet wing
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well, not at least

coarse leaf
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What kind of updates do you want

quiet wing
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that would be the ideal case

tardy flare
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"we aren't dead"

quiet wing
tame widget
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I feel like i've already seen this discussion before

coarse leaf
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Those many spoilers are just bad if you're looking for dev updates, and obviously they aren't dead

split tide
coarse leaf
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If you think they're dead right now you'd probably have no reason to believe them if they just come and say "hey we're alive"

tardy flare
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but i agree this is a difficult position to be in for team cherry

coarse leaf
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If you can't believe them without them saying it, why do you want to believe them with them saying it?

haughty brook
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Honestly, most AAA marketing poisoned the mind of the gaming public with constant meaningless updates and mega bombastic cinematic trailers.

split tide
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It’s zombies making the game

empty trench
tame widget
quiet wing
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but also the crazy hype is really crazy

copper nest
split tide
coarse leaf
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Imagine tc pulling a toby fox

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Say "hey i'm releasing the game tomorrow" without a single new trailer

tame widget
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there's low chance they shadowdrop Silksong

ashen rock
coarse leaf
ashen rock
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William is not dead. You can see his christmas update there.

steady raven
coarse leaf
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I wonder how fans would react if a shadowdrop happens tho

split tide
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Probably delayed insanity

copper nest
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Chaos

haughty brook
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The chances of shadowdropping SS are incredibly low and unlikely knowing TC's style.

tardy flare
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i think everyone would go crazy

quiet wing
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I mean, this exists

split tide
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Undertale feels like it’s kind of in a league of it’s own tbh

tame widget
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what would be the best moment for Team Cherry to release Silksong once it's done?

empty trench
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Everything we dont know about hollow knight milksong

tame widget
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like how would they release it

quiet wing
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we have a 137 page RESEARCH PAPER for a game that isnt even out

coarse leaf
steady raven
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If they can finish in time I think it would release on HKs anniversary

quiet wing
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pinned

haughty brook
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Also shadowdropping SS wouldn't be good for building hype. Doing the same with HK, as in putting the release trailer with a wait of two weeks would be for the best.

coarse leaf
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Thx

coarse leaf
coarse leaf
tardy flare
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zornet lol

coarse leaf
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give 2 weeks to a month between release date announcement and release itself to hype things up

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I wouldn't want a delay of 1 month after announcement zote

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Too much chaos

tame widget
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A delay of 1 year!!!!!!!

coarse leaf
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well chaos is arguably what they would want then

empty trench
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What about a delay of

tame widget
tardy flare
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there already is a lot of hype tho, for almost 3 years at this point lol

empty trench
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Proof

silver oak
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shaw Mountain Dew

empty trench
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Shawsong

tame widget
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shaw 360 noscope

marsh ibex
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It’s not a research paper tho

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It’s just a comp on all known info so that if people want to know how much we know already, they have a doc

quiet wing
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Well, as a developer myself it is very understandable to not want to spoil absolutely anything about the game

empty trench
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Wheres "silksong release date" info

quiet wing
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thats my point

marsh ibex
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They’ve said previously that they give dates when they’re 100 percent sure they’ll hit it

quiet wing
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i really find the hype reached unhealthy amounts

copper nest
tame widget
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in the meanwhile, they may have changed their mind & will just put it in a trailer once the game is 112% done

agile kelp
copper nest
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It won't

tardy flare
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i'm wondering how we're going to look back at this waiting period when the game is out

agile kelp
serene chasm
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I think SS is a lot of peoples first big game that they're getting hyped for and they have not yet learned how to curb their expectations

quiet wing
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but I still understand that building a community is important and will make a small announcement about what things i have completed

sinful flare
quiet wing
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we have completed

agile kelp
sinful flare
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Or wait like 10 years

gilded adder
coarse leaf
empty trench
tame widget
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10 years is above my strenghts

agile kelp
coarse leaf
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or should i say Any Chaos

copper nest
agile kelp
quiet wing
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i have already kinda given up, it will come out when it will come out

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of the closet

gilded adder
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Also, yeeshaw my Silk friends.

tardy flare
pallid girder
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I still have the hope that we will get SS news in early 2022, or just 2022 in general

marsh ibex
gilded adder
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2 days until the December Division dies out...

open abyss
pallid girder
gilded adder
tame widget
marsh ibex
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it means nothing

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leth speculated that

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wasn’t a hardcore confirmation

open abyss
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Thank you

opaque sigil
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It was an offhand guess he made in no official capacity as a representative of either MR or TC

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All he said was that he would be surprised if SS released after crowsworn

agile kelp
tame widget
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so there's still hope for Silksong first half of 2022?

gilded adder
opaque sigil
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Yes, that's why he said it zote

pallid girder
gilded adder
tame widget
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5 years later: Oh boi I can't wait for Crowsworn: RavenMelody

sinful flare
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Silksong releases 1 second before crowsworn does

agile kelp
shy stirrup
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Everytime i get online its just a release date discussion LMAO

tame widget
sinful flare
coarse leaf
pallid girder
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Maybe a small announcement in New Year’s Eve?

agile kelp
shy stirrup
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Literally the only thing they can announce at this point is the date

open abyss
pallid girder
tame widget
sinful flare
tame widget
sinful flare
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Cricket noises

tame widget
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well sh*

pallid girder
shy stirrup
pallid girder
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Anything and everything really

opaque sigil
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1 is a nonstatement, 2 is absurd, 3-5 would give away more than they may want to

coarse leaf
shy stirrup
pallid girder
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It was just a random thought

sinful flare
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Make the source code public

tame widget
sinful flare
opaque sigil
pallid girder
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Or they could just say in a blogpost: “sorry for not talking we’re busy expect release date soon”

shy stirrup
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Imo the next announcement (whenever that may be) will be a date

shy stirrup
tame widget
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keyword: soon

shy stirrup
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cyberpunk moment

coarse leaf
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i was hoping to see a release window this year

pallid girder
sinful flare
empty trench
pallid girder
sinful flare
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A certainly not good chaos but

coarse leaf
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i just want to see a 2022 and i'd be happy

opaque sigil
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Release windows are kinda bad

sinful flare
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I do like me chaos, no matter what kind of chaos it is

pallid girder
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Anyhow, I’m just being goofy. But my point stands, TC can announce anything they want, but it’s probs the release date

shy stirrup
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Honestly instead of having terrible relese windows id rather just not know

opaque sigil
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Only reason to bother with that is if you don't have a real date in mind, in which case the window would kinda necessarily be indefinite or TC would potentially have to cut themselves off, neither of which is good

empty trench
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Whats a release window

shy stirrup
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I.e, spring 2022 or like Early 2023

empty trench
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Sounds bad

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So a release period?

shy stirrup
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Yeah

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But 90% of the time theyre never met so it just disappoints ppl

pallid girder
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Wait leth comes around in the server like once or twice a month

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That is damn impressive

shy stirrup
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Every couple months yeah

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I think he hasnt been online in a little bit tho

empty trench
shy stirrup
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Oh he is?

empty trench
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Ye

shy stirrup
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Had no idea

opaque sigil
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Or at least he was

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That was a few weeks ago, but the process could just be taking a while

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Plus he's gotta settle in

shy stirrup
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Yeah moving is a pain

pallid girder
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Yeah yeah

empty trench
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: soulbad :

pallid girder
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Anyhow so silksong

empty trench
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Silksong is cancelled

pallid girder
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Yeah

tame widget
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Silksooner than you think

empty trench
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So we dont talk about it

pallid girder
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Hope it comes back around

empty trench
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Silksong is a forbidden topic

reef scarab
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Silksong is in a week!

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It got here so fast!

tame widget
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can you believe it guys? just one week away!

serene chasm
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I will be very sad if someone doesnt do a hornet animation to that

empty trench
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News on december 31 trust me

sinful flare
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Fuck it. Time to create January Division

empty trench
serene chasm
tame widget
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The December Division slowly commit non-existence

coarse leaf
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2 days guys

reef scarab
brittle garnet
jade canopy
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nah it's January jester, the name have already been established

reef scarab
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Church of E3 anyone?

pearl meadow
serene chasm
reef scarab
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I’m gonna sell my soul to learn the release date

coarse leaf
silver oak
empty trench
tame widget
empty trench
shell yacht
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smh, its not even called E anymore feelspkman

coarse leaf
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its SS4

sweet lotus
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don't worry guys and gals, I'm sure TC is keeping the news till the very last days of the year!

empty trench
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Are SS4 even real?

shell yacht
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yeah, end of next year

shell yacht
empty trench
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Tga circus

craggy turtle
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The Grimm Awards

shell yacht
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im not part of this troupe clownkin

empty trench
shell yacht
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i dont expect news ever, im just here to laugh at some clowns

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December division?
clown division

lament lotus
empty trench
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Get clowned

coarse leaf
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Idk if anyone knows yet, but Silksong comes out FEB 1st or sometime in Feb

tame widget
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placeholder date most likely

empty trench
craggy turtle
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Imagine TC pulling an epic bait and actually releasing it then

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Or like 1 day before

haughty brook
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The February date is most likely a placeholder.

tame widget
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We will get double clowned

coarse leaf
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Maybe

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But thats strictly pc

empty trench
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Its obviously releasing on january feelspkman

craggy turtle
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So people are all mildly hyped but also not and then on Jan 31 it releases

tame widget
empty trench
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We got double clowned at indie world

opaque sigil
tame widget
craggy turtle
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What would it taste like

opaque sigil
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Spider

empty trench
silver oak
opaque sigil
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The one that goes shaw

silver oak
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The one in the corner of my room??

opaque sigil
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Does it say shaw?

dreamy lava
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I remember an April's Fool prank on reddit in 2020 about Silksong development, there it was said that the game has been delayed until late 2021.
And here we are now, entering 2022

craggy turtle
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shaw

silver oak
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I killed it cuz it was yelling “SHAW! ADEENO!” At me and there was always this string music in my room

marsh ibex
opaque sigil
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Then yes, they taste like that spider

empty trench
craggy turtle
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🇧 ilk 🇧 ong

lament lotus
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bong :laff:

tame widget
empty trench
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Milk MongUs

dreamy lava
marsh ibex
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Cheese

dreamy lava
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Cheese, indeed

silver oak
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Crackers

craggy turtle
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Does cheese exist in the hollow knight universe

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It should, because gruzmilk is a thing

marsh ibex
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is it time for gruzzer milk again

silver oak
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Are there mammals?

tame widget
silver oak
craggy turtle
tame widget
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some flies can produce milk irl

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like the Tsetse Fly

craggy turtle
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New Gruzmilk from team cherry, from an actual irl fly, $29121 per milliliter

tame widget
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All pennies will be used to fund Silksong

craggy turtle
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All money used will be put towards funding more immortality potions so Zote can be tortured longer

haughty brook
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Remember people that the "bugs" in the world of HK are not real life insects/aracnids/etc.

tame widget
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That's true, i've never seen a Zote in real life

simple obsidian
cunning geode
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I think if I saw a real life equivalent to zote id be shook to my core

simple obsidian
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Can I??

haughty brook
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Is called an egocentric.

opaque sigil
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Well Zote goes a bit beyond egocentrism zote

simple obsidian
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can i put my balls in yur jaws?

trim estuary
#

potassium

tame widget
simple obsidian
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amem

craggy turtle
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Get your grublove out of here and stop reacting to your own posts, I am calling your parents and reporting you to the FBI, CIA, ESA, NASA, HKO, WHO, CDC, and twelve other organizations

silver oak
serene chasm
silver oak
alpine zephyr
#

Hi again

opaque sigil
warm comet
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When silksong bitch

empty trench
burnt topaz
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when you start asking politely

warm comet
empty trench
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February believers = gorbbrain

warm comet
small goblet
empty trench
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Check hk announcement

silver oak
#

They’re joking

warm comet
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I cant tell if you're trolling or not

burnt topaz
silver oak
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smh my head

copper nest
empty trench
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No

silver oak
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?sspsa

thin zephyrBOT
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Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. hollowpins

empty trench
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Its true, wait for feb and we'll see

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?zbpsa

marsh ibex
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🙂

cunning geode
stoic path
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So there are two tribes
February 2022 tribe
And June 2022 tribe

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Which tribe you in?

copper nest
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I think it'll be out in 2023

marsh ibex
silver oak
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(Fake) silksong in 3 days

stoic path
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June here

silver oak
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Hi June I’m dad

stoic path
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Where have you been?

empty trench
copper nest
# marsh ibex

Thank you, trolling about ss seems very common here 😅

sinful flare
marsh ibex
silver oak
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Don’t use gay as an insult

stoic path
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Oh

craggy turtle
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No homophobia in this server

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Or I will find you and dreamnail you

stoic path
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Damn, I broke a rule too

sinful flare
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Whoopse i broke a rule

pearl meadow
stoic path
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Which is a better insult?

silver oak
craggy turtle
pearl meadow
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They’ll sing for us?

craggy turtle
empty trench
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Should i cry about it zote

pearl meadow
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:0

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Suffer

silver oak
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Seethe

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I can’t spell

tame widget
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oof

lament lotus
stoic path
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Wow I feel like trash

silver oak
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It’s fine, it was a mistake

pearl meadow
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Don’t feel like trash

stoic path
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No I mean, I didn't mean to be homophobic

lament lotus
sinful flare
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I feel like rot (Dst re

silver oak
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As long as you learn from your mistakes you’re good

stoic path
#

Well uh, silksong looks good

silver oak
#

Indeed

marsh ibex
stoic path
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Might need to re read rules again

marsh ibex
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Guess how long it took for me to find silksong here

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in a comment

copper nest
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Instantly

marsh ibex
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nope

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2 seconds

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second comment first reply

cunning geode
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oh joker

silver oak
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19 comments down

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Not looking at replies

copper nest
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A little disappointed in our fandom

cunning geode
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that’s a common feeling

burnt topaz
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just searched for the word and only found 3 in the comments but that wasnt checking the replies

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i scrolled down a tad too

silver oak
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The duality of man

cunning geode
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Duality?

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There ya go

silver oak
#

Autocorrect

pearl meadow
burnt topaz
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1846165 cesar Torres

copper nest
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I mean, there were a lot of good games at indie direct for sure and I want to play a lot of them

lament lotus
cunning geode
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throughout all of human history, the diary of man had naught but one sentence written:
“I hope Silksong comes out soon”

empty trench
#

Cesar Torres gorbbrain

silver oak
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This is a real 1846165 cesar Torres moment

tame widget
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what happened to the 1846164 others Cesar Torres?

silver oak
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He killed them all

empty trench
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Cesar torres is from tc

tame widget
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TC is for Torres Cesar

empty trench
silver oak
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It was right in front of us all along

empty trench
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Wheres silksong voice channel

lament lotus
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nonexistent

glossy gazelle
small goblet
#

noticed an absolutely useless fact about demo (possibly it was noticed before idk)
intro poem in french in ss demo is not the right one but the one from hk
i don't know why you even need to know it

tame widget
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Monomon is french & moved to Pharloom

pale lion
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ig ill add that to my knowledge of random fun facts about hollowknight

sage glade
jade canopy
coarse leaf
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I need SS news to survive new years eve 😔

sage glade
half portal
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We say your name, with regrets and pride Our primal instincts, you knew how to tame Our wild souls, have been redeemed A gifted world, whom we could only dream

sage glade
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aaaaaa dompter is tame, ok ok

half portal
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to tame yes

sage glade
#

pouvions is the subjunctive of pouvoir, right?

half portal
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and gifted like a gift, not like talented

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first-person plural imperfect indicative of pouvoir

sage glade
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gahd damn

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i've forgotten all the conjugations lol

half portal
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but I'm bad at conjugation or whatever, so it's from google

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not the translation, just what "pouvions" is

sage glade
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yep

marsh ibex
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Holy shit why is the french translation so bad

small goblet
#

ew french ||translation|| /j

serene chasm
marsh ibex
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The french translation is notoriously bad and this sounds like the sort of thing they’d do in either a time crunch or because they didn’t care

serene chasm
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That screenshot comes from the demo that was shown at a french games event. I assume they just needed something there and didnt have the official translation yet.

But yeah. Hopefully they get proper translators now, since you know, they have money

brittle garnet
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nah the translations in the demo were super unfinished

marsh ibex
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it’s not really a “proper translators” thing, I believe Leth actually trusts this one fairly well

brittle garnet
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every non-english demo with footage available was sent before E3 and was unfinished, dialogue and text was missing

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like area names and item names

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pretty sure that it was just a placeholder

radiant wraith
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Should have been Lorem Ipsum

quartz yew
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I have returned with doritos

radiant wraith
#

You'd better not stain the keyboard

quartz yew
#

I'm on mobilezote

orchid rune
#

Oh no

radiant wraith
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You'd better not stain the screen

quartz yew
lament lotus
nimble radish
#

eat them without using your fingers

quartz yew
quartz yew
orchid rune
#

The screen will get so...

radiant wraith
#

...orange...

quartz yew
#

Nah

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I'm good

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Eating them without hands rn.

radiant wraith
small goblet
shell yacht
small goblet
quartz yew
shell yacht
#

telekenesis prob

radiant wraith
shy kiln
radiant wraith
#

I eat doritos with knife and fork but some people seem to dislike it

quartz yew
# small goblet may i ask you how?
  1. You take bowl of doritos
  2. Open mouth.
  3. Lean bowl into mouth.
  4. Let the chips fall into your mouth without spilling.
  5. Pray that you don't die.
granite tendon
#

what does ss stand for?

marsh ibex
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Silksong

quartz yew
#

Silksong

radiant wraith
granite tendon
#

OH

quartz yew
#

Fuck i'm slow

small goblet
granite tendon
radiant wraith
#

It's sans-discussion

granite tendon
#

YYYYYYYYYYYYES

quartz yew
#

We're discussing the tumblr art of you.

granite tendon
#

oh

quartz yew
#

Oh indeed

granite tendon
#

i "befriended" your mom last night

         -sans (deltarune)
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ok bye ima go now

marsh ibex
#

hmm

radiant wraith
#

Goodbye Sans

granite tendon
#

tell papyrus i dont like spaghettis

marsh ibex
#

rp ain’t allowed on the server

granite tendon
#

ok

quartz yew
radiant wraith
#

As for this Silksong game, I'm feeling patient recently, like I could wait for another 2 years without a problem, how about you?

#

My impatience for Silksong has dwindled out

sweet lotus
#

let the folks work on it as much as they feel the need to

quartz yew
serene chasm
#

I would wait 500 years and I would wait 500 more

sweet lotus
#

I can perfectly take Silksong in 2023

radiant wraith
#

Of course, 2023 would be nice

granite tendon
#

silksong on 2030

sweet lotus
#

TC decides to make it 3D? 2028 then

small goblet
floral tartan
#

We have become the silksong monks

sweet lotus
#

there's a ton of different metroidvania games for every taste

barren roost
sweet lotus
#

do you want intricate level design? play Astalon. you want great boss battles and cryptic post-game? play Environmental Station Alpha. you want contantly tricky platforming? play Aeterna Noctis

radiant wraith
#

ESA (:

serene chasm
#

2023 might not be such a crazy prediction sadly

sweet lotus
#

ESA is honestly one of my favorites. too bad people are being deterred by the low pixel count

small goblet
sweet lotus
small goblet
#

blasphemous is also good if you like some medieval/religious atmosphere

shy kiln
#

On the off chance that the NVidia leak is real
teamcherry might probably have completed coding Silksong and probably are doing bug fixes. If they haven’t finished the coding then maybe another 5-10 days, and after that fixing any bugs they find.
(Its like a 0.00341% chance the leak is actually real; so pls don’t bully me, my self-esteem is already pretty low)

radiant wraith
#

I always assume leaks are wrong

opaque sigil
radiant wraith
#

It sucks that game devs have to deal with these leaks

#

Managing an upcoming game is hard enough without leaks generating unjustified hopes

sweet lotus
#

also there are these already popular mv games, like the Oris, The Messenger, Axiom Verge, Guacamelee, Monster Boy, Ender Lilies; there's a pinball mv game called Yuku's Island; there are the namesakes, Metroid and Castlevania, each spawning several good games, like Super Metroid, Zero Mission, Symphony of the Night, Aria of Sorrow, Order of Ecclesia. there are small mvs, 'minivanias', like Momodora, Gato Roboto, Trash Quest. There are great mv-adjacent games, like Blasphemous. And then there's a ton of niche metroidvanias

shy kiln
radiant wraith
#

Salt & Sanctuary is a metroidvania and a great one in my opinion, though the game doesn't name itself as such

opaque sigil
sweet lotus
#

https://metroidvaniareview.com/
this site unfortunately ceased reviews the other month, but there are tons of metroidvania reviews inside for everyone to discover what they like

radiant wraith
#

Salt & Sanctuary has such a great map

sweet lotus
opaque sigil
#

No

#

They would have to have been for that argument to work, which they likely weren't

small goblet
opaque sigil
#

If they had the game done/only a few days of work left back before September (probably at least a few more months ahead of time) waiting until February doesn't make sense

radiant wraith
#

The Messenger is a weird game to call a metroidvania imo

shy kiln
nimble radish
#

metroid castlevania crossover game when

tame widget
#

All we know is that the main game is """""finished""""" & that they add more contents to not add more later as DLCs

opaque sigil
#

Which is kind of a nonstatement

radiant wraith
#

Do we know?

small goblet
radiant wraith
#

Thanks Greg

opaque sigil
#

Even if a barebones version of SS might have been technically complete at some point, that doesn't mean that the game is done

tame widget
#

Graig after the TGA, so it was the Serious Graig
Only once in 2 blue moons

nimble radish
#

🤨 I don't think that's what graig said
he said he thinks it was supposed to be finished by now, but isn't

tame widget
opaque sigil
#

The line between "extra" and "main" content is not clear. SS with only the "main" content would be a slim sliver of the actual game

barren roost
serene chasm
#

Stupid devs. Adding stuff to their games.

radiant wraith
#

Well, the HK "main" game is pretty short, if they are adding additional content it may well be twice as much as the main content

opaque sigil
#

If not more

#

Which is why saying "oh the main game is done they're just adding extra stuff" is misleading

#

It implies that the game is finished and the things they're adding are no longer an integral part of the experience

#

Which is emphatically false

radiant wraith
#

Also, QA and testing, localization, publishing and other time consuming stuff yet to do

small goblet
#

here @barren roost

barren roost
#

ah

barren roost
#

well then, TC is probably not on the final polishing stage

opaque sigil
#

Not necessarily

tame widget
#

We're not sure actually

#

We're not Team Cherry

opaque sigil
#

Graig said nothing about the current status of the project (aside from it having a defined scope and being good)

#

He did not say that they are currently adding (although they may be)

#

Well not necessarily

radiant wraith
coarse leaf
opaque sigil
#

And seeing as SS was originally intended to be a dlc it's a known thing that TC has added beyond the original scope of the project

radiant wraith
#

I imagine publishing is not just marketing

hybrid stone
#

i think theyre close to finished rn

coarse leaf
hybrid stone
#

exactly

serene chasm
#

Publishing is making copies and sending them out the stores. Leth technically handles that since its digital on a few storefronts.

AAA publishers handle getting copies of games on shelves.

radiant wraith
#

Well, it's work

tame widget
#

Something I can't stop overthinking is, when Graig said " I feel the game was meant to be out by now", when exactly is the "now", was it 1 week before? 1 month?? 1 seconde???

coarse leaf
#

i believe making physical copies takes like 2 months so

hybrid stone
#

theres also polishing the game

radiant wraith
#

QA

tame widget
#

a bit,

for me

wheat sail
#

By now means today or earlier

opaque sigil
#

Why?

coarse leaf
#

by now means 21 century

tame widget
hybrid stone
#

i think it means july

#

thats one of the dayes that was on a gfn database

wheat sail
#

"By now" means now or earlier that is just what it means...

barren roost
opaque sigil
#

Well I kinda doubt Graig had any specific time in mind, but the original project would probably have been out in like 2020 at the latest tamershrug

tame widget
#

plot twist: SS was meant to be on TGA, but TC said: "nah, we can do better!"

serene chasm
opaque sigil
#

Even with a larger dlc, more than like 2-3 years would be kind of a lot

opaque sigil
#

Of the two platforms TC is releasing on, both have digital storefronts. Physical copies being available at launch may not be a priority

serene chasm
small goblet
radiant wraith
#

Do we know if they are planning to release on all platforms at launch?

serene chasm
coarse leaf
#

not all, just switch and pc

tame widget
#

only PC & Switch

radiant wraith
#

I see

tame widget
#

for now

analog forge
#

we're definetly getting a physical version on switch, i think.
seems like an nintendo thing to do

serene chasm
#

Is it?

opaque sigil
#

Nintendo has done digital only games

coarse leaf
#

Absolutely xd

serene chasm
#

I always assumed the physical copies of indie games are more for collectors and hardcore fans

opaque sigil
#

It's not unprecedented to not do physical releases

#

And it's not like TC's on their own in that department, supplying the means of doing a physical release seems like something that Nintendo would naturally have a hand in

coarse leaf
#

Well yeah

#

that makes sense, it's in Nintendo's best interest

serene chasm
#

Nintendo might check if the copies are legit, and theyre not going to brick peoples systems, but as far as I know, they don't help with publishing. At least not with indie games

coarse leaf
#

I think SS is the exception, its not just some random Indie

#

its one of the most anticipated Switch games

serene chasm
#

I like how we want to think that, but this is nintendo. They care about Mario and only mario. TC isnt getting special treatment

opaque sigil
#

Prominent feature at E3 is kinda special treatment zote

wheat sail
#

Zelda and kirby and pokemon

serene chasm
#

This is publishing, not slot filling. And they probably only said yes because it would get more eyes on Mario

wheat sail
#

Zelda and kirby and pokemon

zealous crown
#

Silksong!

Can you believe it guys! Just a century away

I am so happy to hear about this information

brittle garnet
#

in the 2019 E3 direct SS appeared for like 3 seconds in a mass gameplay reel ZOTE

serene chasm
#

Best Nintendo might do is promote SS on the storefront when it comes out.

opaque sigil
#

I'm not saying nintendo will do it for them, just that it probably provides the framework to do it in some capacity

serene chasm
#

Basically dont expect to see SS in your local game store when it comes out. It wouldnt be worth it to anyone involved

opaque sigil
#

I don't, but then again physical game purchases are kinda dying afaik, especially for games that aren't super meaty in terms of storage size

analog forge
#

it'd be a ton worth it for people involved.

opaque sigil
#

Maybe

#

Maybe not

#

If they go to the trouble of a physical release and people just buy it online, then it wouldn't be worth it at all

brittle garnet
#

in stores where I live the only physical games available are the ones from the biggest AAA publishers (EA mostly) and any others are from years ago

opaque sigil
#

Yeah that's not surprising

serene chasm
#

If they do physical copies, they will probably online only. Trying to convince a walmart or bestbuy to make shelf space for an indie game (no matter how popular) would be a very hard sell

coarse leaf
serene chasm
#

Not so triple A? examples?

analog forge
#

walmart doesnt actually care

#

nintendo says put it up and walmart will put it up.

serene chasm
#

sure. but nintendo isnt going to do that.

sage glade
#

plot twist

#

tc gets bought up by nintendo

pale lion
#

ive been to some physical stores where it had games like subnautica + below zero on the shelves even though theyre indie games so ig it depends which publishers indie devs go with

wheat sail
#

and hornet wears mario costume

runic valley
#

how are we coping today

analog forge
#

we arent

#

im bawling

coarse leaf
#

do we know anything new

runic valley
#

nah thkhands

coarse leaf
#

sick

#

still banking on a end of december blog post lolol

#

cant wait to be dissapointed

runic valley
#

gonna cope so hard until february 1st

fierce wing
#

real news: ss will release in year 26536547 quirrelpog

languid linden
#

After the lack of news at TGA, I lost all hope for any SS news this year

burnt topaz
coarse leaf
#

so depressing

#

february 1st is gonna be gods reckoning in this server

fierce wing
runic valley
#

indie games have pretty much always been non existent to the game awards

obsidian juniper
coarse leaf
#

ig but hollow knight is like upper echelon of indie games if we talking popularity

fierce wing
#

BRO HOW IS GOING TO BE THE GOD'S HOME IN SS?

runic valley
#

HUH

languid linden
#

What?

nimble radish
#

I forgor 💀

languid linden
tame widget
#

I don't know if there will be boss rushes in Silksong

fierce wing
coarse leaf
#

new path of pain gonna be crazy with hornets moveset

runic valley
#

my muscle memory will be in shambles in ss

primal fractal
#

fr

coarse leaf
#

ik bro

runic valley
#

gonna try to pogo something like ''ohwait shi-''

coarse leaf
#

my 300 hours have trained my fingers a certain way

#

i catch myself tryna play smash like hollow knight

#

i just cant wait to see how big the game is

runic valley
#

yea it's gonna be huge from what I've heard

fierce wing
runic valley
#

at least there will be a bunch of stuff to do and some people won't be begging for dlc after like 2 days of it's release

coarse leaf
#

and tc prolly gonna give us that $30 price point

#

blessed

coarse leaf
#

yuhhhh the playtester in the server said the game is basically finished but tc keeps adding shit

runic valley
#

glad they're taking their time with it honestly :] gonna be worth the wait

#

as agonizing as the wait can be

coarse leaf
#

... but if its not in the next nintendo direct im rioting

tame widget
#

waiting is the worst part

runic valley
#

definetly

wheat sail
#

Want me to check up on team cherry?

tame widget
#

We don't know when is the next nintendo direct tho

runic valley
#

probably around january. they want to get people hyped for the 2022 releases

wheat sail
#

They announce it like a day in advance could be any moment...

coarse leaf
#

tru but i would assume january bc pokemon drops and the slate for next year isnt clear

tame widget
#

there's few chances Silksong is in the next nintendo direct, but one can hope

runic valley
#

yeah :)

#

gotta keep hopes up-

coarse leaf
#

imma do some nintendo direct research

#

lolol

tame widget
#

Hollow Knight fans on their way to dissapoints themselves by thinking Silksong will be in the next games event

wheat sail
#

first step is to get all the dates of each direct and visualize to find a trend

runic valley
#

glad I got into hk only just a few months ago. would've probably lost motivation in waiting a long time ago if I got into it earlier

marsh ibex
#

He said he thinks

runic valley
#

holysht what is that banner I'm-

cunning geode
#

you’ve been pranked

runic valley
tame widget
fallow rock
marsh ibex
#

ok

wheat sail
stark estuary
#

I disagree

marble marsh
shell yacht
#

no the pfp is cringe the banner is creepy

#

uhhhh

wheat sail
#

maybe true

shell yacht
#

and both are socks fault?

marsh ibex
#

aye

serene chasm
#

That's why I never wear socks

pale oasis
#

seeeeelk

olive bobcat
#

Hey Joker I have a pfp for you

marsh ibex
#

no

#

Sock’s pfp stays for at least half a year

olive bobcat
serene chasm
#

Is your current one Joker as a dog?

nimble radish
#

it's a my little pony

#

I think garmond

serene chasm
nimble radish
#

the show can't be that bad can it?

wheat sail
#

adult men love it

serene chasm
#

The first 2 seasons were pretty good, but after it it wasnt so great. After season 4 I stopped watching

brittle garnet
#

yeah it's not so bad at first, genuinely enjoyable, but later it gets worse (dunno didn't watch it after season 4 either)

#

the thing is that the entire show isn't written by a single team of writers but each episode is written by a different writer (as freelance work iirc)

#

so there are inconsistencies and stuff

serene chasm
#

Also all the big writers left after season 2, along with Lauren Faust

nimble radish
#

I heard the later seasons started pandering to the fandom and suffered from it

serene chasm
#

I heard that too

haughty brook
#

Which show?

serene chasm
#

my little pony

wheat sail
#

bronies 😐

coarse leaf
#

brownies 🤤

uncut citrus
#

I am eating brownies rn

#

Anyways time to go

feral tusk
#

no silksong news today, but tomorrow for sure

cosmic widget
#

No news this year, but next year for sure

nimble radish
#

I'd be surprised if there was none

signal crag
#

Two years in a row
Let’s do this

wheat sail
#

its been 84 years

fallow rock
#

hey guys i'm starting a hunger games simulator and i need a female character (because almost half of the roster are male)

wheat sail
#

simulator?

fallow rock
#

yes

pure nova
#

Any news for the last year?

fallow rock
#

?sspsa

serene chasm
#

?sspsa

thin zephyrBOT
#

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. hollowpins

wheat sail
#

gregory will leak some news right now

wintry wagon
#

When silksong

wheat sail
#

is sus

lament gyro
#

Lol no updates

wind cove
#

Yes

wintry wagon
#

Is william pellen even still alive

#

Is william pellen even still alive

nimble radish
#

no, cyber ari killed him and replaced him with a clone

static rose
#

And ofc, graig is the most reliable source of info

wintry wagon
#

@iron spear

static rose
#

Lmao

wintry wagon
#

What did you do to william

static rose
nimble radish
#

<@&283547423706447872> please, don't ping randomly

small goblet
pallid hawk
#

Hey there

wintry wagon
#

Hey

pallid hawk
#

I think Shade Lord can do a cameo in new game

small goblet
#

the only cameo of shade lord in ss can be completely destroying pharloom feelspkman

marsh ibex
#

Who ping

#

Oh yeah

#

Don’t randomly ping members of TC

#

Or for a joke

static rose
#

From what graig has said he gets annoyed with all the people asking him for silksong... Best not to ping him in the silksong channel, then

#

Or anywhere !!

serene chasm
#

everytime someone pings graig or dms him about SS, its delayed by a month

small goblet
young walrus
open abyss
marsh ibex
small goblet
#

why don't people understand that pinging someone from a game development team is at least not nice

nimble radish
#

or just anyone you don't know

wheat sail
#

"at least not nice" so it's evil

true vine
#

no silksong news one year anniversary coming up

hooray

small goblet
#

31 dec maybe clownkin

wheat sail
#

non ironically THIS

open abyss
#

I really hope Team Cherry will show something on 24 February

#

Please please please

hollow terrace
#

They’re doing one on the 34th just to spite you

mellow cliff
#

They will on the 29th don’t worry

hardy marsh
heavy magnet
#

crappy anniversary

wheat sail
#

Not even a merry christmas or happy new year

open abyss
wheat sail
#

😦

serene chasm
#

TC does not do anniversaries

lime radish
#

Can you believe it guys? Silksong, just a month away. Silksong is in a month! I am so happy about this information. Silksong! Just a month away, oh wow. Can you believe it? Silksong! Just in a month! It got here so fast! Silksong! Just a month away!

wheat sail
#

How kids talk these days smh

full rune
serene chasm
#

TC are meanie heads!

uncut citrus
meager rivet
#

OH SHIT GUYS

wheat sail
#

CHECK TWITTER???

meager rivet
true vine
#

wow

uncut citrus
#

Crazy

cursive wave
#

it is amazing how compleated the game is

#

we can see that we are near the games realease

uncut citrus
#

Not really we can’t know

marsh ibex
#

@meager rivet don’t give false info in the guise of news even as a joke please

heavy magnet
#

off with their head

wary timber
#

and my disappointment is immeasurable

cursive wave
#

XD

high hedge
#

A very short blogpost with no new information would be funny just tomorrow , “Silksong won’t be releasing this year.”

marsh ibex
#

wow a random IP address

cursive wave
serene chasm
#

I think theyre saying to IP ban them

meager rivet
#

when

marsh ibex
#

I really am quaking in my boots

#

oh sure I can do that

meager rivet
#

era bait

serene chasm
#

You cant do that to me. Im behind 8 vpns and 14 firewalls

copper knot
cursive wave
#

LIKE NORD VPN????

serene chasm
#

Use offer code curly for 50% your first year

meager rivet
cursive wave
serene chasm
#

yes. if you arent satisified with nord vpn, you can shove it up your ugly ass!

copper knot
cursive wave
#

ok let me buy nord vpn with my credit card that is inside my ridge wallet

serene chasm
#

I wonder if there is someone whose entire life is basically sponsor products

wintry wagon
#

All this time i was sponsoring for team cherry and making false announcements for an app that will never come out

high hedge
cursive wave
serene chasm
#

Aki hacked the deepweb

serene chasm
#

I think I said that wrong. I meant people who buy anything and everything that youtubers shill

cursive wave
#

then its the hypotetical stan for that youtuber

dusty nimbus
cursive wave
gilded adder
#

This video is sponsored by RAID SHADOW LEGENDS

#

Tbf I am in no position to talk considering I'm playing a gacha currently. zote

cunning geode
#

nice self own

gilded adder
sterile sleet
#

Gatcha player

#

Opinion discarded

gilded adder
marsh ibex
#

rude

gilded adder
#

You haven't felt pain until you've pulled countless times for the character you want and haven't gotten it AND you got jebaited with another character of the same rarity.

marsh ibex
#

Why would cry black all over this floor I just cleaned

marsh ibex
#

There was this one time where my friends were relentlessly pulling for the best units in the game and I got them off of a single and a multi

tawdry valley
marsh ibex
#

all for free ofc

#

Never spent a dime on those games

gilded adder
#

Also, yea, I'm F2P too.

marsh ibex
#

and then another time my friend was like “hey bro summon on this banner I want you to get messed up too” and I again pulled the legendary

gilded adder
tawdry valley
#

I don’t know what most of that means

gilded adder
#

I still have 50 pulls saved up so I'm good feelspkman

gilded adder
#

Usually it's one unit of the highest rarity and 2 of a lower rarity, at least in the game I play. So you have a 50% chance when you get the highest rarity of unit to get that specific unit on the banner

marsh ibex
#

What the hell kind of rate up banners are you doing

high hedge
#

I wonder what Whales do after the Gacha game they play concludes service

marsh ibex
#

transfer to a new gacha lmao

gilded adder
tardy mason
#

Rarest unit:mushroom man

high hedge
#

I assumed immediate depression after dumping those funds into a game that no longer exists

marsh ibex
#

I mean that’s a huge rate boost

gilded adder
marsh ibex
#

not that I remember but they did start changing the rates

gilded adder
#

I think it's 50% for 2 different games I've played

marsh ibex
#

plus a lot of those good rates were for mostly shit characters anyways

gilded adder
marsh ibex
#

dokkan battle, naruto blazing, legends

#

some weird pixel game for a while

high hedge
#

See those will probably be around for a long while

marsh ibex
#

naruto blazing literally shut down two years ago

gilded adder
high hedge
#

The Jojo gacha games have all died

marsh ibex
#

and blazing kinda sucked

#

you could get fake golds

high hedge
#

I guess I was thinking of the two Dragonball ones

marsh ibex
#

f a k e g o l d s

high hedge
#

Was fake gold its own rarity by itself?

marsh ibex
#

no

gilded adder
#

I've been playing Alchemy Stars. I like it a lot so far and they're quite generous and F2P friendly, especially with Christmas and New Year's happening.

marsh ibex
#

it was a silver raised to a gold rarity

#

which were basically useless aside from one which was for healing, which everyone already had by that point

gilded adder
#

Alchemy Stars is relatively new as well, only 6 months old.

brittle garnet
#

this is a different experience, M:tG boosters packs, but about twice now I pulled the exact single card I wanted most from a given set

orchid rune
#

I remenber everyone just used like the high rarity naruto and Sasuke like those really op onesfeelspkman

surreal mortar
#

2 more days until the 1 year anniversary of news!

high hedge
#

That’s sort of news in it of itself

#

Except not really

orchid rune
#

I know feelspkman

marsh ibex
#

final valley naruto and sasuke

gilded adder
marsh ibex
#

freaking nutty characters

orchid rune
#

How about the kurama Minato?

marsh ibex
#

edo minato?

orchid rune
#

I think so

marsh ibex
#

He was pretty good

#

PVP was also just

#

absolutely broken

brittle garnet
#

to be fair this was paper MTG because I hate arena and I hate Standard, I play exclusively EDH

surreal mortar
marsh ibex
#

the characters with insane speed always won, I hated blazing bash characters

gilded adder
high hedge
#

I wonder if Hollow Knight will ever have tertiary media

brittle garnet
#

I don't like standard because the meta is super toxic

gilded adder
brittle garnet
#

you can't make a fun deck and do well with it because the meta is control

surreal mortar
surreal mortar
#

Or action will be taken

brittle garnet
#

control is such an un-fun deck type

#

"Oh hi I will proceed to not let you play the game at all, have fun"

gilded adder
#

Idk, I like contol. I mainly like midrange but control is cool.

uncut citrus
serene chasm
brittle garnet
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the thing is that control is rampant because there is no viable aggro

marsh ibex
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Cat if you actually want to discuss SS then I’ll shut up

brittle garnet
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unless that changed in the last set

gilded adder
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I'm trying to build Izzet Dragons in MTGA but stopped playing for a bit, need to get back on it.

high hedge
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oh yeah remember how riot wanted to acquire tc

brittle garnet
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Yeah, though it would be cool to have a Primal-style show set in the HK universe

surreal mortar
uncut citrus
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Riot want anything tbh

high hedge
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What games did Riot make?