sk-discussion

[raven minnow]

so now that your argument crumbles away, you're doing the same to mine

[gusty zodiac]

this argument is endlessly entertaining

[opaque sigil]

Not really, you haven't even tried to actually acknowledge the argument

[raven minnow]

yeah I'm having fun

[opaque sigil]

How is having less ability to avoid attacks not harmful

[split tide]

you have literally brought up nothing concrete against the fact that thorns reduces the amount of time for you to react as the iframe counter ticks down

[coarse leaf]

Ok, let me end this Thorns discussion:
The charm literally becomes useless after you get Pure Nail and more charms

[raven minnow]

because that is for a specific subset of players

[opaque sigil]

It's for anybody who uses the charm

[raven minnow]

sure

[split tide]

I mean the current argument is on whether or not thorns is better or worse than equipping nothing in the notch slot

[raven minnow]

not for me

[opaque sigil]

The charm reduces the capacity to avoid sequential attacks, this is an aspect of the charm, not the player

[random fox]

Early game enemies will die to thorns if u hit them once or twice, and for bosses it doesnt rly change much since early game bosses are slow af

[bronze monolith]

You're all just going round and round in circles at this point.

[split tide]

obviously nobody's going to use thorns once they get anything else

[pastel silo]

Funny that Tammo calls you a hypocrit meanwhile his intial argument for thorns being bad was :''Negligible benefits, massive potential cost'' and he only changed his argument after ab pointed it out

[opaque sigil]

That's taking two damage to each common enemy. You will die that way

[split tide]

circles are fun

[random fox]

But which early game boss is doing fast sequential attacks

[coarse leaf]

That's literally a matter of prefrence

Bcz you get nothing in both situations

[opaque sigil]

iframes are the cost

[split tide]

true lol

[pastel silo]

You didn't mention the i-frames at all before ab pointed it out

[opaque sigil]

[raven minnow]

uh no, not if you're hitting the enemies as well, and it doesn't have to be every enemy, just the first couple while you're figuring out the patterns

[random fox]

Ur not taking damage on every enemy, once again, ppl dont just get thorns and start jumping into enemies, they still have a nail, also how is it 2 dmg?

[split tide]

although back to my original point, thorns is arguably harmful with the iframe reduction

[opaque sigil]

You argued that two hits kills common enemies

[uncut citrus]

So anyways what are y’all talking about in there

[split tide]

conclusion: we should buff thorns

[raven minnow]

that I will agree with if we're not talking about early game

[random fox]

I meant 2 hits with nail and thorns

[craggy turtle]

[split tide]

it's still harmful in early game though

[opaque sigil]

It's what I was clearly referring to

[coarse leaf]

Thorns is just a pointless charm, why are y'all discussing about that?

[raven minnow]

for some people, it helped me

[split tide]

since it gives you less time to reposition

[opaque sigil]

The only thing that could be called a potential cost is the damage you take because of it

[pastel silo]

No

[opaque sigil]

Yes

[pastel silo]

The potential cost could be refering to notch you have to asign it to instead of spending it on other charm

[coarse leaf]

Like, it doesn't really matter if you like a charm or not if you're not going to use it

[opaque sigil]

That's not a potential cost

[split tide]

if thorns was buffed to not tick down iframes during animation or increase the iframe duration it'd be strictly better than nothing at least

[opaque sigil]

It's a slim guaranteed cost plus a significant potential cost of taking damage

[bronze monolith]

Honestly, all I cared about as a new player was thorns letting me retaliate, however weakly, if I messed up. Occasionally it was enough to finish something off. "But it takes my iframes!" is something I didn't think about.

[pastel silo]

So spending a notch on a worse charm instead of a better one isn't a cost of potential?

[coarse leaf]

And even if you use it, there's just better charms that you're going to replace with at some point

i doubt new players would even know about the whole i frames things

[raven minnow]

yes I agree that it is not good and could definitely be buffed, but it has some uses for some people in the early game when people don't have great reaction time, or not many charms or charms slots

[random fox]

Idk why ppl are assuming that if u get thorns ur no longer able to use ur nail and thorns is ur only damage, most early game enemies die in like 3 nail hits and even if ur playing like an ape u will be able to get 1 or 2 nail hits off, making it so thorns finishes them, and they are also rly usefull for killing groups of enemies

[uncut citrus]

Thorns is good when you don’t have the skill to hit fast enough since your really really early game

[opaque sigil]

Potential as in possible

[split tide]

in any case thorns is a trash charm throughout almost the entire game

[opaque sigil]

Bruh idk why you're so intent on twisting my words but it's dumb as shit

[coarse leaf]

Thorns is just a pointless charm that could easily be removed, that's it

[opaque sigil]

I don't want to deal with your trolling

[pastel silo]

I am not lol , it was just obvious that you had no intent of arguing with the i-frames shit until ab pointed it out

[opaque sigil]

That's incorrect

[random fox]

U can say that about all charms except like the 10 best

[split tide]

the only argument made for actually using it is for bad players early on who throw themselves into enemies (which does happen a lot admittedly for bad players like when I was starting out)

[coarse leaf]

Exactly, that's why I said that HK charm system is broken

[raven minnow]

not pointless, some people like being able to retaliate, it just needs to buffed a little, to not take up your i-frames like @split tide said

[serene chasm]

I think its time for a new topic. This isnt going anywhere and its really pointless. We all have our opinions about ToA

[split tide]

well as it is right now it's pretty pointless

[raven minnow]

you really like that zote emote don't you

[random fox]

Thing is just cuz a few charms are op af it doesnt mean that the rest are complete garbage

[split tide]

oh right this is supposed to be ss-discussion, not hk-discussion

[coarse leaf]

Who doesn't like Zote?

[uncut citrus]

Yeah well I’ll be gone again cya

[split tide]

thorns of agony in silksong when

[opaque sigil]

God I hope not

[raven minnow]

no one i just think it's funny

i just hope the minion build is somewhat decent in ss

[opaque sigil]

Maybe a ToA analogue that doesn't take iframes could work for SS but as is it would be a nightmare

[coarse leaf]

But yeah, a lot of HK charms are literally pointless

[split tide]

HK just has some really busted charms

[opaque sigil]

And so the other ones are useless in comparison

[split tide]

stuff like shaman, strength and quickslash are broken

[coarse leaf]

Strength is kinda pointless to me tbh, bcz it could be easily a nail upgrade

[craggy turtle]

strength is amazing wym

[split tide]

strength is fantastic

[coarse leaf]

depends on what nail you have

[craggy turtle]

50% more nail damage? sign me up

[coarse leaf]

with old nail it barely does anything but with pure nail its absurd

[raven minnow]

do you really want to go find 4 more pale ore

[split tide]

unless if you mean it's bland

[random fox]

Its like 12+ dmg on pure nail, thats alot

[craggy turtle]

each hit with strength is a non-shamaned shade soul

[opaque sigil]

Strength is good yeah

[serene chasm]

too good

[coarse leaf]

I never said it wasn't amazing, I just said that it couldn't be a charm at all

[opaque sigil]

I mean it could be but it isn't

[uncut citrus]

Why does 1/10 of my messages have either a or a

[craggy turtle]

if it was a nail upgrade then that'd start getting unbalanced

[opaque sigil]

tbh strength might've been reasonable if it didn't have the unbreakable version and godhome weren't the way it is

[coarse leaf]

Why not? I like pain

[random fox]

Id say strenght is the best charm in the game along with sstone, its just straight up damage and thats always good

[uncut citrus]

I really wonder

[craggy turtle]

because permanent strength? you can slap shaman stone on any nail build now

[serene chasm]

I really hope we dont see a strength tool in SS

[coarse leaf]

But it's already unbalanced when you use Strength

[opaque sigil]

But permanent strength in godhome is hardly the dumbest part of godhome

[split tide]

strength breaks godhome ye

[coarse leaf]

it doesnt

[pastel silo]

It was okay as the fragile strenght, it becomes bland only after upgrading it

[split tide]

like almost all the p5 bosses become paper with strength/quickslash

[coarse leaf]

steady body for bonus points

[random fox]

The dumbest part of godhome is a 50min pantheon where only the last 10 min matter

[opaque sigil]

@pastel silo #sk-discussion message

[coarse leaf]

Tbf, arguably, Quick Slash is better than Strength

[craggy turtle]

each one has pros and cons

[opaque sigil]

Now fuck off

[serene chasm]

True. I think it could work if it was a short buff that you could use when you wanted to. Like hornet sharpens her blade and it does bonus damage for 10 seconds

[split tide]

that part sucks too, and it's why I don't mind abusing strength/quickslash

[opaque sigil]

Or just something like fotf

[craggy turtle]

quick slash has more soul gathering and staggering, strength is better for bosses where you only get 1-2 hits off and for hitting 1-tap breakpoints

[coarse leaf]

Yeah, but I just feel like Quick Slash is more useful in early/mid/end/post-game

[split tide]

real answer is to combine them ofc

[pastel silo]

Btw didn't you block me? Very kind of you to change your mind

[split tide]

and watch as everything just melts

[opaque sigil]

Regretting that decision

[random fox]

They shouldve really just removed the first 30 bosses after u beat them a few times in a row, cuz they just become a time waste

[uncut citrus]

Ok but what if you couldn’t get new weapons, but you could « customize » your needle by adding different modifiers kinda like charmes unless they’ll all cost the same to make it less complex

[pastel silo]

I am happy to be your buddy , you seem like a fun person to hang out with

[craggy turtle]

me when no eyes or xero obliterates my p5 run

[opaque sigil]

Like range increases?

[coarse leaf]

Pantheon of Hallownest in general is ridiculous, I mean, it's cool to have something like that, but meh, it's just boring

[opaque sigil]

Especially compared to the core game

[uncut citrus]

So like you could add 3 so you can choose between 20%more dmg, 15% more range, gives 6 more silk/hit...etc

[opaque sigil]

More silk per hit would be broken

[split tide]

they should've just made p5 a gauntlet of the hardest bosses, like a souped-up version of p4

[coarse leaf]

I literally got burnout from Godhome bcz of P5

[opaque sigil]

Not surprised

[random fox]

It shouldve been just the 10 hardest bosses instead of 10 of the hardest bosses and 30 wastes of time

[uncut citrus]

Oh right I forgot silk wasn’t a /100

[craggy turtle]

solution- every pantheon up until p4 has all their bosses at once!!!!

[split tide]

so like the 3 dream versions of bosses, WK or whatever, and ending with NKG/PV/Absrad

[opaque sigil]

Double or nothin

[uncut citrus]

But like steady body as a charm could be a needle upgrade for exemple

[coarse leaf]

Yeah, but it would be still an option anyways

The only thing that I don't like about P5, is that you need to beat it to have every achievement in the game

[uncut citrus]

And at the start you only got one and endgame you can have between 3-5 at once

[coarse leaf]

Like, why an optional challenge have an achievement??

[random fox]

Kinda wish p5 gave a % tho

[uncut citrus]

So you could have diffrent weapons but way more customizable and it would work for cutscenes

[coarse leaf]

no i dont think it should

[coarse leaf]

It would be literally useless and more painful for no reason

p5 as a % would make it even less enjoyable

[opaque sigil]

I mean in terms of achievements all bets are kinda off. If somebody's committing to doing all achievements they're probably willing to do all the crazy things the game has

[random fox]

Its a shame that the hardest combat challenge and the hardesr platforming challenge dont give a %

[opaque sigil]

P5 isn't a % for the same reasons THK and Rad aren't %s

It's an ending.

[uncut citrus]

Would be pretty complex but you could even start with 0 « notches » and so only after beating an early boss you can add your first customization

To add more things slowly

[coarse leaf]

I already did P5 so many times and I have something to say: Pantheon of Hallownest isn't worth it at all, fighting AbsRad isn't worth it at all

[opaque sigil]

Yeah I can already tell that having never bothered to try

[coarse leaf]

ill get p5 done eventually

[craggy turtle]

how to get p5 done

[coarse leaf]

Like, P5 is just boring, feels rushed, feels wrong

[opaque sigil]

Honestly the boss rushes are just a huge mismatch for HK

[craggy turtle]

spend 5 hours practicing abs rad and then die 4 times to her

[uncut citrus]

That + tools + if you can choose those soul ability would make Hornet totally customizable for the specific build for specific challenge and stuff

[fleet temple]

What I did was just fight normal rad a bunch of times and then I realised that absrad is just rad but faster

I beat her first try afterwards

[coarse leaf]

Like, it's just doing something worthless for 100 hours bcz of an achievement

[fleet temple]

and the reward is a cliffhanger they aren't going to follow up on

[coarse leaf]

AbsRad is Radiance but faster & kinda rushed tbh

[uncut citrus]

P5 is really just a challenge, there is a lot of ppls asking for a « real challenge » and it’s true that before godhome I feel like the hardest thing was NKG or Rad, which is pretty meh (compared to p5) so adding way more difficulty for ppls that wanted it is good imo

[pastel silo]

I would love if there was no boss rush mode in SS, the bosses would remain fresh for every subsequent playthrough (sure I could just not play it if it was there but I would be incentivized by having a need to fully complete the game)

[coarse leaf]

godmaster as a dlc was rushed in general

[opaque sigil]

But it isn't difficulty that reflects the strengths of the game

It's a dry grind that monopolizes the experience entirely

[coarse leaf]

I would be ok with a boss rush in SS, but I don't want it to be included in a % count or something like that

[split tide]

P5 isn't a good challenge though; a big part of it is just watching death animations and the boss screams

[coarse leaf]

Basically, just make it fully optional

[split tide]

since most bosses get shredded by endgame equipment

[uncut citrus]

Well you would only do godhome after finishing everything in the normal game usually

[opaque sigil]

P5 bosses have health increased tbf

[random fox]

I mean boss rushes dont do anything bad for the game as long as they arent a requirement, its a challenge for ppl that want it

[fleet temple]

I think there should just be a way to refight bosses in silksong with no story aspect to it (unless they do that)

[split tide]

earlier pantheons are fine imo since they're not as tedious

[opaque sigil]

They can skew the perception of what's actually important in the game

[split tide]

the issue with godhome boss rush is that a pretty important ending is tied to it

gives the impression that it is part of the base game

and an important part of it at that

[opaque sigil]

Also its being in the world and not just, say, something like godseeker mode

But like tracking progress ig

[fleet temple]

What is the point of the etv ending?

[opaque sigil]

It just is

[coarse leaf]

its complicated

[fleet temple]

It looks like it's setting up something for ss but that doesn't seem to be the case

[split tide]

team cherry did put in a lot of work into godhome, and it does show very well at times (nailmasters and PV are excellent bosses, and the overall design and atmosphere is great), but forcing players to do a gauntlet of all the bosses for the final ending isn't a good idea

[opaque sigil]

No, it isn't

[fleet temple]

yeah

[opaque sigil]

In fact it's a pretty bad idea

[bronze monolith]

And you haven't even mentioned the challenge to obtain the weathered mask.

[fleet temple]

So what's the point?

[uncut citrus]

Some ppls want harder combat like some ppls want harder parkour or more area, Hollow knight is trying to make it so that most ppls will find something they like and a lot of people want really hard combat so now there’s that, also HoG is really practical for just playing a boss even in just attuned just to relight that boss or try a build

[split tide]

especially wihtout QoL improvements

[bronze monolith]

Which I've done but it was hell.

[opaque sigil]

Isn't weathered mask just pure rng

[coarse leaf]

no thats the tuner memory

[opaque sigil]

Wait no it was the bindings yeah

Land of Storms is the weathered mask

[coarse leaf]

have fun doing 20 bindings

[opaque sigil]

Not worth it

[bronze monolith]

I had fun up until the last 4 bindings.

[fathom peak]

did it anyway

[uncut citrus]

Weathered mask doesn’t give any % so it’s just flex

[coarse leaf]

yeah a lot of stuff done in godhome is done only to do that

[uncut citrus]

P5 has an achievement so I get the hate for being very long if you want all achievements

[fleet temple]

I think for ss, I'd be fine with just a hall of gods type thing with no boss rush

[bronze monolith]

Eternal Ordeal gives you the best title screen. Worth it.

[opaque sigil]

Same

[uncut citrus]

But you can just don’t do weathered mask and nobody will care

[opaque sigil]

Like anybody's really paying attention to your % either

[fleet temple]

if they do that, fine but I won't be angry if they don't
besides I'd like the bosses to be intergrated into the areas instead of just slapped in a boss rush

[pastel silo]

Yea objectively no, it's just a purely personal issue I have with them, which is that I have a need to fully complete every single piece of content. But then after boss rush mode, the bosses become very bland and nonexciting in my subsequent playthroughs, compared to games like DS without such modes where the bosses feel fresh for longer.

[uncut citrus]

No but like some ppls play to game just to get all achievements and then we’ll they « finished the game »

[coarse leaf]

bow before my superiority

[opaque sigil]

I mean I really can't sympathize with that approach... idk why you couldn't just say "yeah this ain't worth it"

[uncut citrus]

Or 112%

[coarse leaf]

Ok, so, uhhhh, I hope SS doesn't have some bosses like what HK had

[opaque sigil]

Forcing yourself to do all achievements/100% everything just seems like a great way to suck the fun out of a game about player agency

[coarse leaf]

Traitor Lord, Gruz Mother, Moss Charger, etc

[opaque sigil]

I mean bell beast is kinda like moss charger but better

[fleet temple]

well, they do have moss mother

[coarse leaf]

I just hope that every SS boss fight is equally as good and as interesting as every boss fight in the game

[opaque sigil]

moss mother is not all that similar to gruz mother

[uncut citrus]

I... guess

[coarse leaf]

isnt bell beast supposed to be the stag equivalent in ss

[fleet temple]

some bosses will obviously be better than others but as long as they feel unique and enjoyable

[opaque sigil]

Yes but you do fight her

[bronze monolith]

And some people just like to get everything done in a game that's possible to do.

[fleet temple]

yeah, idk what I was thinking there

[opaque sigil]

Name spurs a lot of comparisons between the two

[pastel silo]

Those are all okay bosses tho, like 2 of them are fought very early in the game when the knight has limited kit, ofc they aren't gonna be exciting after you master the game

[fleet temple]

as long as there aren't bosses that are just: "enemy but big"

[opaque sigil]

Maybe but I can't relate

[opaque sigil]

golem

[uncut citrus]

The only real similarities between gruz and moss mother are the place, their size and the fact they are the mother of some kind of species, combat wise they are really diffrent

[opaque sigil]

ig both kinda charge at you but that's superficial

[fleet temple]

I mean like with gruz mother, mmc and vengefly king, where it's just a normal enemy but just bigger
The golem is probably the boss I'm the most exited for
that roar was sick

[opaque sigil]

Yeah I was joking

[fathom peak]

which one is the golem again?

[opaque sigil]

Big lava robot thing

[fathom peak]

oh that one
ok

[radiant wraith]

Break arena

[fleet temple]

this boi

[opaque sigil]

(not an ant)

[coarse leaf]

industrial society in ss??

[fathom peak]

oh yeah i remember it now
can see why you're hyped for it

[fallow solar]

How long has it been since SIlksong was announced?

[fleet temple]

The roar he makes in the trailer is the best thing

[pastel silo]

Do you count vengefly king as a boss? I mean he was slammed into the godmaster but he didn't have the name tag ingame, to me it's more like an event elite enemy

[opaque sigil]

Very

[split tide]

If SS does have a boss rush/boss practice mode I would like it to have some QoL stuff, like removing the boss introduction and death animations for practice

[uncut citrus]

Well that’s just their texture, venge Fly king and gruz mother doesn’t attack like their smaller variant, MMC is fair aight

[coarse leaf]

Yeah, but I meant like, not every HK boss is interesting or fun to fight with

[fleet temple]

I think vengefly just barely makes as a boss in my books

soul warrior however...

[opaque sigil]

A lot of bosses kinda have analogous common enemies because that's how the game prepares you.

[coarse leaf]

yeah you can autopilot 80% of bosses once you get to the godhome stage

[uncut citrus]

Maybe there could just be a HoG like a godseeker mode save only accessible once you finish the game

[fathom peak]

wdym mr "i spawn a nail right where you're jumping" markoth was plenty fun to fight against

[fleet temple]

Honestly, I never had that big of an issue with markoth

[slate wagon]

even hornet's charge is shown through squits

[coarse leaf]

Radkoth was just annoying for me, bcz I hate waiting for cycles just to fight a boss

[upbeat marlin]

So stizzl released a new video

[opaque sigil]

Me neither but it's a meme at this point

[carmine herald]

Holy shit i didnt even know there was a robotic golem in silksong, that’s awesome

[coarse leaf]

It just felt so slow, I hated it

[pastel silo]

But again , you can't evaluate a boss on how exciting it is to you when you fight him with the late game kit and once you become good at the game...you have to take into account what stage of the game the boss is in. Gruz mother and mmc are both okay bosses for the very early game of HK

[uncut citrus]

Miss « I spawn an orb right where your jumping also it’s 6th phase and I’m 2 hits on radiant » guess who I’m talking about

[split tide]

Yeah they’re fine for early on

[fathom peak]

[split tide]

Same goes for false knight especially

[fleet temple]

It looks amazing

[coarse leaf]

That's not the point, the point is that if you're going to make a boss rush, you need to make sure that every boss is at least fun & interesting to fight with

[opaque sigil]

Yeah within the context of a boss rush mode gruz mother, mmc, etc are bad bosses

Context in the world is not as important

[coarse leaf]

i mean, only a select few bosses were designed with godhome in mind
most of them were just designed to be in the overworld, so its not like that would've been taken into account

[split tide]

Solution really is to just pick a handful of good endgame bosses for the boss rush

[bronze monolith]

I wonder if it'll be the only automaton we end up facing.

||Mecha Zote?||

[fleet temple]

well there is the last judge

[split tide]

It’s up to the boss rush mode to select good bosses for a rush

[coarse leaf]

Or even make entire unique bosses for this specific mode

[pastel silo]

Sure, I thought you meant that those bosses are bad in general as you said you don't wanna SS to have similiar ones

[split tide]

That too; nailmasters, SoB and PV are good examples of this

[opaque sigil]

Or just don't do boss rush

[coarse leaf]

nosket and absrad

[split tide]

Two are souped up versions of fights already in the base game, and three are great fights in their own right

[opaque sigil]

boss rush is overrated anyways

[slate wagon]

a simple boss refight would be better

[split tide]

Nosket is an attempt, just a really bad one

[fleet temple]

A boss rush in ss is fine, just make it not required for 100%

[pastel silo]

I like how it's done in Sekiro

[coarse leaf]

Sly is also a great boss fight besides of it's broken hitboxes

[split tide]

And ye making boss rush optional would be nice too

[coarse leaf]

:yes:

[slate wagon]

through meditating, right?
my knowledge of that game is terrible

[opaque sigil]

I mean godhome arguably is optional depending on how you define optional

[fleet temple]

damn, this ss talk is getting me hyped

[split tide]

TC did do a good job imo tying godhome into lore and an ending, but it just shows why there are problems with this sort of approach

[opaque sigil]

But having an associated ending is a weird move

[coarse leaf]

True

[split tide]

Players end up feeling more pressured to do the whole thing

[coarse leaf]

lorewise that ending is incredibly funky as well

[pastel silo]

Yea through memories, you can refight specific bosses without having to go to a specific location

[coarse leaf]

Yeah, but Dream No More was better imo

[pastel silo]

But TC told mossbag that they hope we don't expect another boss rush mode didn't they? So I guess they realized it's not worth it

[coarse leaf]

It just concludes the story of the main character in a shocking way and yet doesn't prevents other characters from having a sequel/prequel lorewise

[opaque sigil]

DnM and EtV are pretty similar really

[slate wagon]

i mean, none of the endings do that really

[coarse leaf]

but how did hornet escape from the black egg

[opaque sigil]

[pastel silo]

magic birds

[slate wagon]

she asked it nicely

[coarse leaf]

Yeah, but EtV doesn't concludes TK's story

[fleet temple]

To be fair, Godmaster did give us sisters of battle and pv

[opaque sigil]

It does in the same capacity

[coarse leaf]

[opaque sigil]

Just ignore it

[bronze monolith]

And an enjoyable fight against Bug Yoda.

[thick cliff]

do you still accept more clowns?

[opaque sigil]

Godmaster had solid bosses yeah but they were kinda wasted

[fleet temple]

true, the new bosses in the pantheons (not including nosket and absrad) we're pretty good

[bronze monolith]

I might've preferred it though if you had to actually fight the Nailmasters to get their respective abilities and Sly before he gives you nailmaster's glory.

[opaque sigil]

Instead of getting those bosses in the world itself we get them in some contrived boss rush mode that is basically an entirely different game in terms of gameplay loop

[fleet temple]

That's why I hope they won't do that for ss, I would like those bosses to be actually intergrated in the areas

[opaque sigil]

Yeah

[pastel silo]

they should be as now they have no reason to separate content

[civic sand]

oro and mato and also sheo - S tier
sly - B tier
sisters of battle: whatever is above S
flying nosk: C tier
PV: B tier
absrad: B tier

[fleet temple]

yeah

[bronze monolith]

Hornet/Nosk actually felt easier than the regular one. It was basically Vengefly King with ranged attacks and summons.

[opaque sigil]

But like the lack of integration was probably the result of the staggered release

[coarse leaf]

h2 has less hp than h1

[civic sand]

nosk with safe spot is easier. nosk without safe spot, harder

[opaque sigil]

The content updates weren't ideal, they necessitated that sort of division

[coarse leaf]

Is it for me, or SS areas feels a little shorter than HK areas so far?

[civic sand]

wdym shorter

[opaque sigil]

I mean we've only seen a part of MG and DD

[fleet temple]

well this time, TC doens't have any contrainst so there shouldn't be that problem in ss

[coarse leaf]

the stuff in the trailer and treehouse was pretty early on, who knows how much bigger it'll get

[fleet temple]

it's probably just a demo thing

[primal oriole]

you mean like, metaphorically, somehow? because we haven't seen any full areas

[opaque sigil]

Like if you compare the demo area sizes to HK area sizes they're probably lacking but those aren't the real area sizes probably

[coarse leaf]

Like, SS areas just feels a little smaller by what we've seen in the demo

[opaque sigil]

Demo

[civic sand]

oh

[fleet temple]

yeah, because it's a demo

[pastel silo]

because of the demo? So far we haven't seen a single area in it's complete form

[slate wagon]

the demo is a demo, things are gonna be blocked off

[bronze monolith]

If the demo was made public I would've finished it dozens of times by now. Shame.

[civic sand]

yeah, because it's a demo

[slate wagon]

it's very insulting to me that i was the only one snailed

[opaque sigil]

Better

[coarse leaf]

add a backdash
speaking of which, how different do you think the movement in the trailer/treehouse is gonna be different from the release

[civic sand]

cmon give me slug too 😦

[coarse leaf]

Everyone loves 🐌, but snails doesn't like when someone snails me.

[civic sand]

pog thanks

[primal oriole]

I feel like the mechanics we've seen will be the same

[pastel silo]

that was a weird lag lol

[opaque sigil]

I mean it looked well enough fleshed out that it could stick around in basically its shown form

[civic sand]

imo go play modded now. I just figured out modded so its p cool

[slate wagon]

i feel like the bullet jump won't have coyote frames, but that's less a change and more a fix, really

[civic sand]

also note that sometimes in demos they purposely make it smaller so that you can see more content with less gameplay

[opaque sigil]

Did HK have coyote frames?

[primal oriole]

pretty sure

[coarse leaf]

yeah

[pastel silo]

It was funny how some people were complaining that there are mask shards all over the place in SS

[opaque sigil]

imo the ledge climb is a significant platforming qol thing, especially if there isn't a double jump

[slate wagon]

but there's a difference between say a normal jump coyote frame than a jump that has a stopping point, and then the long jump
that feels like it could easily be abused

[slate wagon]

parachute

[opaque sigil]

Parachute wouldn't help as much with the things ledge climb does, at least not independently

[bronze monolith]

Hornet could probably make a silk parachute.

[opaque sigil]

Double jump in HK was great for returning to areas because it made the jump timing way more lenient, Hornet's ledge climb does that too

[bronze monolith]

She's going to have some sort of grapple ability that'll make up for a double jump.

[civic sand]

I just launched HK and I went to extras and selected grimm troupe and now the grimm troupe text and options text is in front of the normal main menu text

[opaque sigil]

I don't think anything needs to make up for a double jump, per se

[fleet temple]

we do kind of see that in the trailer

[slate wagon]

if it can be aimed anywhere, then yes
though i suspect it will auto aim towards enimes and then be a relatively straight line otherwise (i dont remember if it was angled during the pukebug scene)

[pastel silo]

Yo speaking of Silksong, don't forget there is a TGA Hype trailer coming out in a few hours

[opaque sigil]

It's always been at a pretty consistent angle

[fallow solar]

The what

[fleet temple]

if ss isn't in that is there still a chance?

[opaque sigil]

Also aiming it would be a bit of a pain ngl

[pastel silo]

of course

[civic sand]

hwta dat

[fleet temple]

ok

[heady jolt]

yes

[coarse leaf]

aiming on keyboard

[bronze monolith]

I like the look of those enemies that you have to run away from. Like pukebug and that one bug chasing her with a weapon.

[pastel silo]

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1467296676725489664

Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley)

Tomorrow morning I will launch my 2 minute hype trailer for #TheGameAwards on Thursday night.

I always have a ton of fun personally editing these trailers -- gets my head in the game for the show.

The set is almost done...can't wait to show you guys!

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[heady jolt]

it may mean they just want to create a bigger surprise

[civic sand]

thats sa bit sussy baka

[fallow solar]

[slate wagon]

the part in the trailer where she grapples between towards the mech-bugs they are all slightly raised from one another iirc

[opaque sigil]

Yeah that's the default apparently, at a slight upwards angle

It's like that without a target too

[slate wagon]

ah

[opaque sigil]

I doubt it autoaims any more than stopping when it hits something before the max range

Like here you can see the angle

Pretty much the same

[slate wagon]

the grapple clinging to walls feels weird, like it makes sense
but then what counts as a "wall" like any platform?

[coarse leaf]

probably game code thing

Silksong combat system gives me vibes of Specter Knight's attack system, it looks really cool

[opaque sigil]

It doesn't mechanically seem to care about the wall aside from not going through it

It's not like the grapple will fly forever until it hits something

[fallow solar]

When SIlksong comes out I can’t wait for someone to give hornet a gun

[opaque sigil]

Like, I don't think there's some special attribute about the wall aside from its being an obstruction that the grapple interacts with

Also I think grapple behavior on hit is similar/identical to pogo behavior but that's another matter

[slate wagon]

hm, fair
also i have a question, is the silk throw from the demo the same as the one shown in the trailer?
like if they are two different ones it seems kinda redundant, and the one in the demo would seem to be the better one, being faster

[opaque sigil]

I mean it could just be updated, since they seem similar enough that, as you said, having two would be pointless

There also could exist two variants such that one is the upgraded form of the other but one wouldn't necessarily be faster than the other in that case

[slate wagon]

ah, i was just about to say would be cool if it was a holding thing, like holding the skill button would allow you to throw it farther, but slower, and jsut tapping would be faster but shorter

[opaque sigil]

idk if that would mesh all that well with SS combat but maybe

[slate wagon]

actually, they might just be the same length, if the entire design of the throw is the hitbox

[cerulean sable]

my fav part the integration of everything from the start is theyll feel more consistent together

DLCs i mean

[opaque sigil]

Yeah that'll be a great step up

Honestly godhome might well have been more effective if it was built more into the game's structure

[cerulean sable]

i think HD, LB was greatly implemented, and i can excuse TGT because they always felt like theyre meant to be out of place (tho i do think the DLC start couldve been implemented a bit more vs to just slapping it behind a hidden wall)

[opaque sigil]

In the trailer the range looks pretty significant

[bronze monolith]

4 days Ttaco. You ready? 😛

[opaque sigil]

Like, at least to the border of the screen

Unless it actually stops right after that last enemy

[pastel silo]

Maybe only less than 1 👀

[bronze monolith]

One thing I never bought up, I love the effect of the silk flying across the screen to the spool.

[opaque sigil]

I forgot about that

[bronze monolith]

Surely they'd save the best until last?

[pastel silo]

Maybe it's not considered as the best by the organizators...but even if, wouldn't you want the best thing to show in the trailer to lure more people?

[radiant wraith]

Don't think they did such a thing with Elden Ring

[bronze monolith]

Assuming it shows up at all, I hope they don't add new content like characters and bosses to the trailer. I'd like to know as little as possible going in.

[pastel silo]

there was no hype trailer for e3

[carmine herald]

Hehe those enemies look silly

[slate wagon]

as i said before, if the entire design is the hitbox, that reaches just as far, if not a little shorter, right?
though i suppose it'shard to tell without being in the same place

[pastel silo]

For TGA's there always is and it includes also games that haven't been announced yet

[radiant wraith]

It was an event hosted by TGA. Not TGA itself but still

[radiant wraith]

Alright

[opaque sigil]

I think in the trailer one it's about the same size, it just kinda blows up a bit

[heady jolt]

theres a trailer for tga tmr so we might have our answer tmr

[opaque sigil]

Trailers for TGA are probably going to be about the same thing the event is focused on: The actual awards

Announcements aren't the focus of the event and therefore probably won't be the focus of a trailer for the event

[pastel silo]

Wrong, Hogwarts legacy was included in the last one

[heady jolt]

well I read close to half of tga is gonna be announcements this year

[coarse leaf]

what time exactly tmrw

[bronze monolith]

I think the worst thing would be for Leth to wait until the day to tell us it's not happening.

[heady jolt]

morning pst

[radiant wraith]

The worst thing would be for Leth to tell us it is indeed happening

I want the tension. This trailer could ruin everything

[coarse leaf]

the latter would probably be worse for the server

[opaque sigil]

At this point his opportunity to serve any purpose by deconfirming is gone anyways

It's too late

[hollow terrace]

But the chances are never zero

[coarse leaf]

oh damn thats early

for me at least

[cerulean sable]

lets fucking do this

[slate wagon]

o i forget it's literally a few hours away

[opaque sigil]

It's a few days away

[slate wagon]

the trailer i mean

[pastel silo]

There are always some games that are going to be announced in the hype trailer alongside nominees

[opaque sigil]

But the misinformation has spread far enough that it's a sure thing that Leth's deconfirming probably wouldn't get around enough

[heady jolt]

9:00 am for me

[pastel silo]

I checked the last year's one

[coarse leaf]

"bro its gonna be on tga cause 4chan said so!!!!"

[opaque sigil]

When he did it before there was time for the info to disseminate of its own accord

[bronze monolith]

Looks like I'll be too busy sleeping to watch the trailer. Ah well.

[pastel silo]

Could you send the link, can't find it

[opaque sigil]

Just watch it when you wake up

[radiant wraith]

If Silksong is not in this "hype trailer" it will be another reason to doubt a TGA reveal. We'll hold on to hope tho

[coarse leaf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8zC_6WUaqY

[opaque sigil]

No it won't

[cerulean sable]

unless they want this shit to be a surprise

[bronze monolith]

Would be quicker to just check this channel. If it blows up, something happened.

[radiant wraith]

To doubt, not to deconfirm

[opaque sigil]

An absence of a positive isn't a negative

[slate wagon]

nerd

[opaque sigil]

no u

[pastel silo]

Oh man 12 hours I thought it's gonna be sooner

[bronze monolith]

Yeah, I'll be awake for that. Goody.

[hollow sedge]

did they do a hype trailer last year and did it tease anything

[pastel silo]

yes

[coarse leaf]

well there you have your answer ig

[radiant wraith]

I didn't use the word deconfirm for a reason.
In any case you are right, watch when you wake up

[pastel silo]

hogwarts legacy was teased

[radiant wraith]

Watch when you wake up or wake up to watch it, you wait the same amount of time awake

[opaque sigil]

ik. It's not a reason to doubt either

[hollow sedge]

ohh yeah, i think i remember from last year, ima try and find the video

[radiant wraith]

If Hanles says games to be shown are in that trailer... I don't know much myself honestly

[pastel silo]

And considering that Geoff edits those trailers himself and he knows the hype around SS, well he might be able to sneak in a piece of it here and there

[opaque sigil]

Not all of them could be

[pastel silo]

I said some of them

[radiant wraith]

Oh ok then

[hollow sedge]

they def wouldn't tease everything, that'd make it pointless

i cant find last years video

[pastel silo]

Oh boy imagine if we actually got ss confirmed in 12 hours

[olive bobcat]

Is TGA tomorrow?

[opaque sigil]

no

[coarse leaf]

the hype trailer is

[pastel silo]

no only the hype trailer which may include it

[bronze monolith]

Just a teaser for it.

[olive bobcat]

Ah
Well I'm not watching either

[hollow sedge]

the worst part is that the game awards is happening during finals week for me

[opaque sigil]

I'm not either because I don't care about tga
Buncha AAAs patting themselves on the back

[coarse leaf]

for me its right before

[pastel silo]

I mean it's better than during the release itself

[olive bobcat]

If there's SS news I'll learn about it when the chat freaks, not gonna waste my time otherwise

[radiant wraith]

I thankfully deflated (sat my finals) this last week

[opaque sigil]

On the off chance that there is something at tga (unlikely but not zero) it'll go to TC's yt probably

[scenic coral]

wtf is a hype trailer

[bronze monolith]

The actual awards don't interest me at all. Just game announcements.

[opaque sigil]

Not gonna sit through a four hour stream just for ss

[coarse leaf]

yeah me neither

[pastel silo]

fake fan

[hollow sedge]

thats pretty much everyone

[coarse leaf]

if its revealed ill know

everyone will lmao

[hollow sedge]

i mean i'll be watching it for other announcments/info aswell, Elden Ring, BOTW 2, Hogwarts Legacy, Starfield, etc.

[radiant wraith]

Is the event four hours long?

[coarse leaf]

mhm

[opaque sigil]

Then we retreat to subservers as people go insane and it's impossible to actually say anything

[heady jolt]

3 hours iirc

[pastel silo]

I wouldn't either but it's gonna be a lot of fun with all the fellow believers in the voice chat, alongside Graig and admins

[coarse leaf]

5 minute slowmode

[bronze monolith]

Show starts, Silksong is first announcement, immediately close stream after.

[radiant wraith]

Haha 5 minutes

[heady jolt]

imagine silksong is literally the last announcement

[radiant wraith]

More like 12 hours I think

[hollow sedge]

the amount of doomposting will be unbelievable

[heady jolt]

the show ends without silksong and people are spamming clowns in here

then team cherry hiding hits a button which turns on a secret projector while everyone is leaving which shows the words

Hollow Knight: Silksong

Releasing: xxxx

yes i am implying it might release in 9999

[radiant wraith]

xxxx = 2023

[coarse leaf]

same day as earthblade

[proud vale]

Idk whether it would be better to go in hyped or expecting the worst

[bronze monolith]

Latter. Then you won't be quite as disappointed.

[pastel silo]

But it also depends on how you can manage your emotions after not getting what you were hyped for

For example I was hyped for SS during previous events but was never disappointed when it didn't show up. As long as you only consider it as a possibility the hype should not be a problem

[hollow sedge]

im going in hyped this time, I usually haven't really cared but its been almost a year without news so why not atp

[lofty heath]

I do wonder if we might get a new holiday signoff this year

since it's been awhile since the edge and riddle stuff

[cerulean sable]

if you guys make another subserver thatll be the 3rd one per gen

every gen that happens

[hollow terrace]

Third one before the game actually came out

Crazy how how quickly groups form and dissolve

[cerulean sable]

you usually get

new users

they vibe with each other a lot

major release increase influx of new users

old and new doesnt mesh well

old makes their own subserver

new users vibe with each other a lot

rinse repeat

[proud vale]

Nevertheless, I’ll probably go in hyped regardless

[coarse leaf]

what other games are hyped up for tga

[pastel silo]

ehmmm let's see, we got....thee...hmmm

[proud vale]

The Harry Potter game?

[pastel silo]

Cyberpunk 2077 DLC

[proud vale]

Blood borne pc port? Idk

[radiant wraith]

I have hyped games but none are even remotely likely at TGA

Too small

[pastel silo]

Yooo that would be a blast

I have managed to not spoil BB for me so far, and I intend to keep doing so until it arrives for pc

[proud vale]

Yeah neither I know barely anything about it except that people like about as much as dark souls 3

[pastel silo]

Yea for many people I know it's the most favourite from soft game...I know basically nothing past the cleric beast

But I don't feel like buying a whole console for one game

[proud vale]

Same with me and persona 5

[cerulean sable]

400$ bloodborne machine

[pastel silo]

There would also be Demon Souls if I hadn't spoiled the whole game for me by watching a stream

[frank sparrow]

hype trailer out in 12 hours?

[pastel silo]

11*

and a half

[frank sparrow]

i dont even care if silksong isn't in that trailer- im hyped for TGA

[bleak scarab]

g'morning

[coarse leaf]

morning

[frank sparrow]

morning hatter :3 how is you

[bleak scarab]

doin gud eating last nights leftovers

[frank sparrow]

what leftovers-

[bleak scarab]

Bro got chinese takeout lastnight

[frank sparrow]

oh nice- its been awhile since i had some chinese

[bleak scarab]

chinese food is rlly good

[coarse leaf]

i love noodles

[proud vale]

Wait what are you talking about

[frank sparrow]

what kind of chinese food you get?

[bleak scarab]

fried rice and noodles

[coarse leaf]

[frank sparrow]

if you scroll up theres a video for the hype trailer for The Game Awards

[frank sparrow]

this

[pastel silo]

Yo, change that name at once!

[bleak scarab]

No

[cerulean sable]

Our side has to win

If we lose, we have nothing

[bleak scarab]

You will never truly win, we will live on in the shadows! Muhahahaha

[frank sparrow]

HATTER

JOIN USSSSSSSSS

[bleak scarab]

The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities.. some might find questionable

[pastel silo]

Damn doubters, they think they can just walk up in here casually, disgusting

[bleak scarab]

You fool, I basically live here. (It's kinda sad )

[frank sparrow]

did Hatter just compare us to the Dark Side in Star Wars-

[pastel silo]

No he compared us to fckin rebels

[proud vale]

I see, a hype trailer aye?

I’m imagining a black screen… then the disgusting noise Lömm makes when he comes out of his shell with “Q1 2022” written on the screen in comic sans

[frank sparrow]

[proud vale]

It’ll be magnificent

[pastel silo]

that squid has a name??

[frank sparrow]

did you just call Lemm's brother a rat-

[pastel silo]

no

[frank sparrow]

xD

[bleak scarab]

wait is he a hermit crab

[proud vale]

He's like a sea snail or something

[bleak scarab]

snails canon in hk?!

[opaque moat]

anything new happening

[frank sparrow]

have you forgotten about the snail village that was cut in HK?

[opaque moat]

any news from hollow knight

[bleak scarab]

no, wait that makes sense

[frank sparrow]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[pastel silo]

there is a tga hype trailer in 11 hours which may include SS if it's to be showcased on the event

[warm bone]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[proud vale]

But if it isn't in the hype trailer, could still happen?

[pastel silo]

of course

[proud vale]

me right now

[pastel silo]

Impressive that you still have clown make up left, mine ran out after E3

[fiery coral]

well I don't expect the hype trailer to include every game

there'll be no surprises otherwise 🥴

[cerulean sable]

i dont expect it to be in the hype trailer tbh

rather

as a major surprise for the event itself 😎

[proud vale]

True, can't get ahead of ourselves

[grim forge]

That would be like putting elden ring in the hype trailer 🥴

[pastel silo]

The hogwarts legacy had like 2 frames of a hand waving a wand , I could see something similiar for ss

[frank sparrow]

cant wait for Hogwarts Legacy either

[pastel silo]

will need to upgrade my pc for that tho

[bleak scarab]

hogwarts what? theres a harry potter game?

[frank sparrow]

hatter- ive talked about this- Hogwarts Legacy- set like before even Moldy-no nose was born

[digital junco]

elder bing

[bleak scarab]

whaa

[fiery coral]

Moldy no nose

[bleak scarab]

I'm not very caught up on games

[frank sparrow]

ill send you the link to the website for the game

[bleak scarab]

Man, I remember when everyone was into HP

since the topic is brought up I have to ask which house are you?

[frank sparrow]

gryffindor

ive taken the test on the official website four times i only ever get Gryffindor

[bleak scarab]

Took this quiz for fun and it was very specific. Apparently huffle puff while being a lil slytherin

[pastel silo]

The cool thing is that even kids of this generation are growing up watching it

[bleak scarab]

yea it is

[radiant wraith]

Watching...

Didn't know the movies were that popular

[bleak scarab]

they were very popular

[radiant wraith]

I always though the books were the most engaged with

Guess I was wrong

[bleak scarab]

movies made it more popular

[radiant wraith]

I see

[chrome dragon]

I don't like the movies all that much

The fact that so many people do makes me like them even less

[frank sparrow]

i was born when Goblet of Fire came out so ya know of course I've watched the movies but my mom is a book nerd and I am a book nerd so I've read the books and they're much better imo

[bleak scarab]

I never bothered reading the books so

[radiant wraith]

Haven't watched all the movies

[frank sparrow]

watched and read every single one-

[radiant wraith]

I think I only watched Order of the Phoenix in fact

I didn't want to watch any other of the films after that

[frank sparrow]

hehe

toads c:

[bleak scarab]

toad supremecy

[frank sparrow]

Hatter no

we hate toads in Order of the Phoenix- toads are not good

[bleak scarab]

No, toad best reject cat and owl

[pastel silo]

I like the atmosphere of Order of the Pheonix

[frank sparrow]

ah- you dont understand what the toad is-

[radiant wraith]

I thought it was like the book but with less magic, worse, way worse

[frank sparrow]

shes pink, ugly and you want to punch her in the face the moment you meet her

[bleak scarab]

what?

[radiant wraith]

The woman

[bleak scarab]

who is it then

[frank sparrow]

Dolores Umbridge

shes the pink woman

[bleak scarab]

Not her

[frank sparrow]

i dont think shes a woman tbh- a toad

[radiant wraith]

You are pink too

[frank sparrow]

CHANGE THE NITRO COLOUR

[radiant wraith]

Checkmate

[bleak scarab]

How dare you disrespect toads.

[frank sparrow]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[radiant wraith]

Do you happen to like cats?

[frank sparrow]

cant be disrespect because shes described as a toad in the book-

[bleak scarab]

I'm neutral towards cats

[untold inlet]

don't insult pink i just became pink

[frank sparrow]

neutral towards cat-

[radiant wraith]

Ok Stranger I won't, I promise

Next time, insults will be personal

[frank sparrow]

but yeah Umbridge is described as a toad and well ugly- in the book-

[bleak scarab]

I like the actress for umbridge in the movies actually

[untold inlet]

insult me for being a TGA truther but never for the color pink!

[frank sparrow]

yeah she did a great job in making me want to throw her off a cliff

[bleak scarab]

she did a good job of making us hate the charac that takes talent

[radiant wraith]

I would love it if Umbridge did some sort of good action on the books just as a "screw you" to the reader

She did something good and you have to live with it

[pastel silo]

I hope the centaurs tortured her

wanted to cross it out but can't

[fiery coral]

[radiant wraith]

Then they'd be just as bad

[pastel silo]

I meant respectfully

[radiant wraith]

Fair enough then

[fiery coral]

Ah yes respectful torture

[radiant wraith]

Cool concept innit?

[fiery coral]

anyway before we delve further into this

[pastel silo]

Like you know, making her wait 1 year without SS news, all that kinds of stuff

[fiery coral]

ah

[frank sparrow]

respectful torture

[radiant wraith]

Anyways, I'm no pothead

[frank sparrow]

hehe- i am

[radiant wraith]

Pothead

[frank sparrow]

[digital junco]

disrespectful torture 😈

[drowsy isle]

I think Geneva's convention discourages that

[trail stirrup]

Let’s talk about tools

[frank sparrow]

what do you think this is? a discussion channel?

oh wait...

[heady jolt]

its gonna be a discussion channel pretty soon

[pastel silo]

10 hours

[opal geyser]

Wait, why 10 hours.
What don’t I know

[fleet temple]

I think they're reffering to the tga hype trailer

[opal geyser]

Oh!

Idk if they would show silksong if the trailer, it wouldn’t build up hype

[split tide]

I feel like they'd show SS in the trailer if it were to be featured

[fleet temple]

I'm still going for the main event

[opal geyser]

Agreed

But excited nonetheless

[fleet temple]

and scared

[heady jolt]

well hype would already build

[fleet temple]

showing it in the trailer could spoil the surprise but idk

[hollow sedge]

probably

[fleet temple]

if it isn't I'm not ruling out the possibilty entirely tho
But it would be a hit to it

[opal geyser]

Hyped nonetheless

This could be it, lads.

[fleet temple]

yeah, I have that feeling of this could be the end of waiting

although I do have this constant fear that knowing my luck, ss will come out once I get a PC

[frank sparrow]

idk if they would show SS in the trailer i would have it shown at the main event

[fleet temple]

yeah, I guess we'll see

[hollow sedge]

if we see even a glimpse of silksong its finally over

[fleet temple]

Yeah, I think either we'll get a release date at TGA or there won't be ss at TGA

[elfin swift]

what would be the funniest sideswipe surprise trailer/news to get instead of silksong

[frank sparrow]

[fleet temple]

lace dlc

[serene chasm]

Are you talking about the tga trailer?

[elfin swift]

just at tgas in general. like what news would be so fucking bonkers it would blow a lack of silksong news out of the water

[hollow sedge]

skyrim 2

[fleet temple]

zotebote

[serene chasm]

This literally pains me to read.

[elfin swift]

hollow knight skins in fortnite

switch exclusive skyrim spinoff in the vein of dr. mario

[fleet temple]

hornet dlc for smash ||(yeah I know they're done with characters it's a joke ok)||

[valid sable]

Hornet for Rivals of Aether

[elfin swift]

starfield trailer might be interesting, we're a year away at this point

[opal geyser]

If silksong is in TGA I bet they’ll have a new trailer + release date

But that’s wishful thinking

[fleet temple]

oh no, that's pretty accurate

[elfin swift]

trailer of the mario movie with chris pratt's voice performance feature

[fleet temple]

if ss is at TGA, imo it HAS to be a release date, they would have no reason otherwise

and if it's a release date, it will most likely be a trailer

[opal geyser]

Yes please, I need the memes

[robust flower]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMm is the pale flower from pharloom or somewhere else?

[opal geyser]

Agreed

[opal geyser]

What brought you to question this? Just curiosity?

[robust flower]

yes

[opal geyser]

Interesting thought, but I don’t see any connections

[fleet temple]

It's certainly possible

it could be related to the flowers we see in the 2nd lace fight

[opal geyser]

Oh, I forgot about that

They are similar

[fleet temple]

there's also the seal breaking bug shown in the opening in the demo

could have similar properites

[opal geyser]

Hmm

Valid points

[fleet temple]

do you think pharloom is the original home of the weavers?

[outer turtle]

How many areas were in hollow knight

[opal geyser]

I wouldn’t doubt it given all the hints that were shown in the trailer. Like that bit in the end with the familiar glyph behind hornet. And the citadel may have been the main original home or meeting place of the weavers, but it’s possible it could have been destroyed or taken over by another force.

[fleet temple]

hmmm

[opal geyser]

Something like 15?

[fleet temple]

yeah 15
unless you count areas like godhome and white palace

[opal geyser]

Right

[fleet temple]

but perhaps we will find answers to these pretty soon

I can already tell this emote is going to be spammed during tga

[ocean mulch]

🙏

[opal geyser]

Ayo

[ocean mulch]

Soon amirite

[opal geyser]

Very soon

[ocean mulch]

Nintendo moment

[opal geyser]

Indeed

[crisp drift]

4 more days?

[opal geyser]

Well, 8 more hours. There’s a trailer coming soon. May show silksong, but we can’t be sure

[low vapor]

what does tga stand for?

[opal geyser]

The Game Awards

[crisp drift]

TsilkGsongA

[low vapor]

ty

so all these ppl with tga in their names are trying to nominate ss or something?

[crisp drift]

it's a cult

where they hope TGA has Silksong news

[low vapor]

oh lmao

[tall hinge]

[low vapor]

only a few more days

until everyone is disappointed yet again

[warm bone]

Not everyone

Pessimists always win 😎

[crisp drift]

the person with the nickname everyone probably is

[vast pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h93WMl5u4SM

silksong

[opal geyser]

Well boys, silksong is out, enjoy.

[vast pecan]

silk song in REAL life 😱 😱

[opal geyser]

I swear if someone makes a hollow knight irl video I will personally come to their house and end their career.

[vast pecan]

new team cherry game is actually all fake and was an add for chocolate

[opal geyser]

I think the world would go into mass chaos. Forget Covid.

[vast pecan]

true

[wary timber]

if hollow knight has 5 endings

then will silksong have 5 beginnings

[dusty nimbus]

Finally my silksong thirst can be quenched by Sad-ist's hk animation

[sweet anvil]

what trailer? tga trailer?
didn't know they had one lol

[bleak scarab]

wait sad-ist posted something hk related again??

its been 84 years

[maiden forge]

So excited for the silksong trailer posted in 7.5 hours

[frank sparrow]

sad-ist made a skin of their oc Kuneho for Hollow Knight

[fleet temple]

oh yeah, I saw that

It looks good

[frank sparrow]

yeah i have it downloaded and its in my skins folder

[bleak scarab]

her last hk content was like a year ago or sum i think

[frank sparrow]

its been awhile

shes been focused on dream minecraft thingo

[bleak scarab]

me just happy she made a hk vid

[frank sparrow]

love sad-ist's art style :3

[opal geyser]

lol same until recently

[fleet temple]

when is it again?

[wary marlin]

Silksong

[dusty nimbus]

Imagine Sad-ist be like "I am close to finishing an animation" and then bam silksong is announced to be dropped at a week later and Sad-ist freaking out about and playing it non-stop after forgetting the animation and the dsmp fan-base be like "where animation?"

[signal crag]

i could see that happening

[cerulean sable]

you are what you choose to be

"The Silksong release date 🥺"

[modest night]

Is the chat dead again

[crisp drift]

yeah chat needs a bench

[primal oriole]

chat needs to kill it's Shade (#hk-discussion must cease to exist)

[dusty nimbus]

That explains why you name has no numbers for a date

[valid sable]

It is time to take down all other chats in order for this one to live

[maiden forge]

If silksong is not at the game awards I will

[signal crag]

uhm.....yeah?

[fleet temple]

they will

[signal crag]

huh, alright then

[fleet temple]

If silksong then I will

[maiden forge]

Don't test me I will

[normal token]

If Alsart I will

[frank sparrow]

goddamit you guys i will

[normal token]

I will

[proud vale]

Can someone PLEASE ping me if something happens in the TGA trailer

in relation to silksong

[tropic mica]

Is there a trailer ?

[proud vale]

Yes there's a hype trailer in 6 hours

But I'll be asleep

[pallid flare]

6 hours is 5pm for me

[proud vale]

3am for me

[tropic mica]

Ahhh, I Will ping if I see it first

[pallid flare]

i'll ping you if I remember

[proud vale]

Cheers silkbuds

[fleet temple]

I'm already assuming there won't be anything so I'm just going to wake up and see the chaos

[pallid flare]

wait i'll probably be busy at 5pm

[ember geode]

What is a hype trailer supposed to be

Hyping up the event itself or what’s gonna be announced at the event

[proud vale]

the latter

or both?

[frank sparrow]

its both im pretty sure

its hyping up the event and announcing the games that can show up there but not all of them ya know

[normal token]

@proud vale SILKSONG

[jade canopy]

Il thinking of ways to like, get the hype/disappointment of the TGA show without watching it live, cuz you know time zone

[proud vale]

Um Pichu you're a little early

[signal crag]

wait is this a joke or am i missing something

[empty trench]

Hello cultists

[signal crag]

alright, i'll take that

[frank sparrow]

hype trailer for TGA

[fiery coral]

There is genuinely a hype trailer in a few hours

[proud vale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8zC_6WUaqY

[signal crag]

uh
uhhhhhhhh

damnit, i can actually watch this, huh

[dreamy lava]

I believe the hype trailee is mainly for the nominated games

[coarse leaf]

looking at the last one though, it looks like they just show clips from the nominees

[jade canopy]

Well if this trailer goal is to hype people…
I know something they could do

[sinful flare]

hype trailer

[proud vale]

angry birds 2 trailer

[sinful flare]

wolf among us 2 trailer

[jade canopy]

Isn’t that already a thing ?

[sinful flare]

it is

[proud vale]

remake of the sequel

[cedar trench]

i really cant wait for TGA and see either nothing or this place go into its most primitive state once again
as its tradition

[frank sparrow]

time for 10 hour slowmode

[jade canopy]

It will be fun either way

[sinful flare]

hk offtopc

[cedar trench]

very

[sinful flare]

hk offtopc exists

[cedar trench]

anyways did you know december 13th

[sinful flare]

yeah it's a day

[proud vale]

It's probably the most hyped news occasion in a while

IT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE NEED

[sinful flare]

yes i need yearly dose of silksong news uh huh yse

[quartz yew]

Hello!

[normal token]

I don't really mind if ss isn't at the hype trailer, the new spider-verse already satisfied me

[quartz yew]

What's happening on 13th december

[frank sparrow]

its a monday

[proud vale]

The new spiderverse looks so good, I haven't even seen the first one but the animation looks insanely good

[quartz yew]

[frank sparrow]

[quartz yew]

Primal aspids be upon ye

[frank sparrow]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[fleet temple]

[frank sparrow]

but am not wrong it is on a monday

[quartz yew]

I can't argue with you on that so have a screaming grimm

[cedar trench]

Holiday signoff

[fleet temple]

well that's what happened in 2019

[cedar trench]

Songsilk news

[fleet temple]

it didn't happen last year and I HIGHLY doubt it's happening this year

[dusk badger]

same

[cedar trench]

It kinda happened last year with edge

[dusk badger]

esp if no tga news

[fleet temple]

yes but not on the 13th

[quartz yew]

yay

Idc if it doesn't have a reveal date. I just want news so I can start saving up for a switch

[frank sparrow]

save up anyway a switch is great

[coarse leaf]

why would u buy a switch

[fleet temple]

I highly doubt anything is happening on the 13th

[dusk badger]

steam deck is coming out soon just buy that

[proud vale]

buy one second hand

[coarse leaf]

nintendo games r ridiculously overpriced

[normal token]

Your assuming same can't be said for Sony, XBOX etc.

[pallid flare]

why buy a switch if you can get something else instead

[coarse leaf]

they actually lower their prices after a few years, nintendo still has 5+ year old games going for £50

[normal token]

But getting a switch for one game ain't worth it, I think you should upgrade your PC instead

[coarse leaf]

pokemon mystery dungeon remake for 60 YEP

[normal token]

Probably more expensive but still

[coarse leaf]

nintendo's gotta be one of the most greedy games companies out there

[quartz yew]

My computer can't run hollow knight that well, so when I heard silksong is bigger than hollow knight I wanted to start saving. Plus another mobile game I'm playing has a switch port recently and since my phone is clunky, it might also come in handy.

I already upgraded my PC and I don't want to use it solely for gaming since uni is starting for me next year. So I decided to get something where I can play games.

[dusk badger]

again, i think steam deck is an excellent alternative

[coarse leaf]

^

[dusk badger]

you can benefit from your steam library

[pallid flare]

steam deck way better than a switch

[coarse leaf]

the steam deck looks like it's going to be excellent

[dusk badger]

as well as being a dedicated gaming device

[quartz yew]

Steam deck?

[pallid flare]

it's basically a switch but on linux

and a lot stronger as far as I can tell

[cedar trench]

Steam deck? Based

[quartz yew]

Hold on let me look this up

[pallid flare]

you might want to wait until the first few reviews are out. you never know

[cedar trench]

But yeah i am happy with my switch its 4 years old and it runs juuust fine

[quartz yew]

Yeah. It does look promising, but I might still go for switch. It has some games I'm interested in.
It's also looks more expensive. I come from a country where a 15 dollar game costs over 100, so I'm just gonna debate when silksong comes out.

[dusk badger]

hm

[quartz yew]

Anyway, I'm hoping that the midair strike in silksong is gonna be easy. It looks extremely useful.

Ghost was too slow for me so I kept doing things that are impossible for them. I hope Hornet would suit my playstyle more.

[split tide]

does the cost of a game vary in different countries?

[dusk badger]

yes. often quite by a lot

[split tide]

ah explains that over 100 bit

[dusk badger]

steam db shows regional prices for steam games. here's hollow knight for example https://steamdb.info/app/367520/

[split tide]

man the prices vary a lot

[hushed wasp]

okay

[sinful flare]

okay

[opaque sigil]

[coarse leaf]

It's that time of year again where we slip back into our clown shoes

Though maybe, just maybe

[frank sparrow]

you wearing your clown shoes too?

[sinful flare]

wear your clown shoes, clown pants, clown shirt, clown wig and clown nose

[brittle garnet]

I prefer the modest mime outfit

[opaque sigil]

clown bad meme

[brittle garnet]

TRUE

it stopped being funny after like the first time

[opaque sigil]

That's a bit generous

[sinful flare]

i added another line of darkness

[pallid flare]

get better memes

[wanton crest]

more jpeg plz

[marsh ibex]

Hey Tammo guess what

Chicken Butt

[opaque sigil]

What

[sinful flare]

hey tammo guess what

_ _

[opaque sigil]

[sinful flare]

_ _

[coarse leaf]

Here's my reason for silkssong being at tga:

[opaque sigil]

[dusk badger]

good channel

[marsh ibex]

how does it feel to me a trash meme tammo

[opaque sigil]

Did you mean "be"