also dont like how they approach the world building
#sk-discussion
cerulean sable
they once talked to Pete Hines about it, why the fuck is Jet in Fallout 4 when it was invented by a kid named Myrion in Fallout 2, which is set on the west coast
and his reply was pretty much "lol who fucking cares, its a video game"
tawdry valley
cerulean sable
which fair enough it is, but shows how much they actually wanna respect the series
tawdry valley
Yeah. Bethesda is like that
cerulean sable
tbf that actually does look fun, ive always wanted to have a multiplayer post apocalyptic game
id play Stalker but its too scary for me
well i already did, just that i dont wanna replay it
tawdry valley
It looks cool and the whole group fight thing is nice
But if you want that, get any borderlands game
cerulean sable
if you told me i needed to hunt a Chimera at exactly 12am midnight so i can get the best ending for that group, id tell you to go fuck yourself
tawdry valley
What’s happening in the video is he’s chasing it and clicking it
cerulean sable
we already tried BL2 a lot of times, i dont really find the gunplay satisfying and the humor can sometimes be a hit and miss
cerulean sable
What’s happening in the video is he’s chasing it and clicking it
ahhhhh i get you
tawdry valley
Yeah. It’s just mindless
tawdry valley
we already tried BL2 a lot of times, i dont really find the gunplay satisfying a...
That’s fair; but IMO finding that sweet post for difficulty is what makes the game fun
If you get to a point here you know where to a egg the difficulty slider for yourself and for your build; it’s like crack cocaine
cerulean sable
its the spaminess, i just want a slow paced coop game for once
overally its explosion burning and shit everywhere, not against that but like i mentioned, we never got that far to experience as the gameplay got kinda thin along the way
tawdry valley
Portal 2 is there. Unfortunately literally everyone has played it by now
Portal 2 is still the best co-op game I have ever played and it’s like, a decade old or something
cerulean sable
https://youtu.be/V2hZfk30qi0?t=406 something slow paced like this (tho i dont expect this mod to ever come out)
tawdry valley
If you say you haven’t played portal 2 I’ll kill you
If you want slow paced, Journey is excellent
cerulean sable
i dont just mean coop, im looking for a specific atmospheric and survival experience, portal 2 isnt really what im looking for
tawdry valley
Okay definitely journey.
rugged lodge
There's not a lot of silk song discussion in silk song discussion 🤔🤔🤔
cerulean sable
other survival shit tends to just be acrue so much resources until you dont care anymore
cerulean sable
Yeah Journey and Abzu ive heard to be fantastic game, but like i said, its not what im looking for
We dont own MC 🥴
lament lotus
forget silksong
cerulean sable
im really looking for games where you shout at each other after you get hit by a stray bullet
cerulean sable
told you, weve already played so many coop games, Forest was great until the game became a breeze and stale
tawdry valley
Atmospheric survival co-op
I hate to break it to you, but minecraft is probably the strongest candidate that hits all three of those
cunning geode
tawdry valley
Then again, it’s like 45 bucks a copy
Rainworld? Not co-op, very atmospheric and the survival aspect is rather immersive (albeit difficult)
worldly dune
Then again, it’s like 45 bucks a copy
what is?
worldly dune
its only 27 bucks/USD if you buy it from Mojang
tawdry valley
It’s a heist game but the stealth is co-op and pretty fun
tawdry valley
its only 27 bucks/USD if you buy it from Mojang
Oh cool
worldly dune
i could try payday
tawdry valley
It’s a heist game but the stealth is co-op and pretty fun
The rest of payday 2 is just a LD2 level though…
cerulean sable
Payday 2 is too large for one of my friends
tawdry valley
Yeah
It’s stupid. The game can’t compress for shot so all the audio files for every dlc you don’t own get downloaded
Have you played “it takes two”?
worldly dune
wait how large is PD2
tawdry valley
That’s a new one, and it’s better than it’s predecessor, “no way out”
cerulean sable
i wanted to get us Zomboid but the update thats like 2 years worth of content diff is still in beta (tho theyre making fast progress apparently) but i dont wanna get it until then
Closest one i got for them is either the Forest or Barotrauma, latter got a bit repetitive but did a good job of having tense moment where the sub is going down and youre all panicking because youre being attacked by a huge ass fish
tawdry valley
Oh so you’re okay with intense stuff
You just mean atmospheric as in it looks cool
cerulean sable
It Takes Two no, but again yeah im looking for intense stuff
tawdry valley
Don’t starve together
cunning geode
Barotrauma just got updated
cerulean sable
Oh we could never get far in DST 🥴
tawdry valley
Too hard? Fair.
cerulean sable
Barotrauma just got updated
yeah it idd, but im planning on replaying it after a few more updates
yeah
tawdry valley
Winter is brutal as shit, and it’s like 1/10th of the game
cunning geode
alright
cerulean sable
weve been playing DST on and off for years, i think our more successful one was like day 40 before we got fucked up
tawdry valley
Ouch
cerulean sable
nowadays everytime we boot it up..... yeah it doesnt last long
tawdry valley
Broforce?
cerulean sable
we did do that event at one point where you had to race against the clock and that was fun
nope never heard of it
tawdry valley
Not survival at all
cerulean sable
well actually i did
tawdry valley
Over the top humor.
Only fun to play if you have a friend
That being said, it’s really fun to play with a friend
cerulean sable
really i just want a campaign based intense coop game, i like the idea of huddling in a corner out of fear with friends
yeah i think i remember broforce now
closest weve played is Castle Crashers
tawdry valley
Rayman legends…?
cerulean sable
nope
tawdry valley
Not scary-intense but the levels where you run through everything are great for that
Nope never heard of it or nope as in “nah”
cerulean sable
never heard of it
cerulean sable
again what im looking is more around the horror side at this point, and most of the potential games i can list are all in early access like Project Zomboid or Barotrauma with its own campaign
like atmospheric tense, not just under the idea that its a good coop game
or at least a progression for it be "beaten"\
DST like you said is another good pick but we can never push through it
cerulean sable
yeah no worries, the taste im looking for is very far and few atm, hence its one of my dream game ideas
i honestly wish Stalker had multiplayer coop lmao
B4B expensive and i heard some meh things about it
tawdry valley
I’ve got it
This is my final option though; so take it or leave it
2014 Minecraft zombie maps
No but I’m all seriousness, I get the struggle
cerulean sable
arent those buggy as hell
tawdry valley
Been trying to find co-op games to play all round and there are very few worthwhile ones
analog forge
If you want a good coop game cough assault android cactus cough
Granted thats not horror so like heck me
Theres also edf 4.1, and thats... kinda? horror.
it has giant insects, so its horror to insectophobes
cerulean sable
Yeah, honestly one of my dream game ideas is to make a game as atmospheric as Hollow Knight both music/artwise while still being as deadly and slow paced as Stalker
tawdry valley
If you want a good coop game *cough* assault android cactus *cough*
Granted that...
This is the hollow knight server
Define insectophobe
analog forge
wow i wouldve never guessed
cerulean sable
which lets be honest is never gonna happen but i just wish some guy OUT THERE had this IDEA and he WOULD MAKE ONE so that i could BUY IT
analog forge
to the point that this scares you
tawdry valley
that game has atmosphere, wave shotting, spelunking, and a really tense ass escape sequence every level
analog forge
oh
tawdry valley
analog forge
risk of rain 1
cerulean sable
never heard of it
tawdry valley
Risk of rain is a great co-op too yeah. Not survival though
tawdry valley
never heard of it
Well I tried lol.
analog forge
the first game also has such great atmosphere
dig or die is a neat lil survival game
cerulean sable
were literally just waiting for update Season 1.0 before i play, i still gotta promote my Scout and Driller
analog forge
orion prelude is a 1 dollar dinosaur coop shooter
scratch that 75 cents
cant beat the experience for the price
cerulean sable
oh i got gifted by it at one point
but we never got to play it
that was 4 years ago
analog forge
Still good
byeah, assault android cactus.
excellent coop experience, though you will need to use remote play if you arent together.
And edf 4.1, for something more horror comedy
https://store.steampowered.com/app/315460/Dig_or_Die/ dig or die too, for something none of your friends have likely heard of
lament drum
never heard of it
good.
cerulean sable
oh never heard of this one too
lament drum
actually theres barotrauma too, not insect based or anything but similar to deep rock galactic in terms of co-op experience and very fun
lament drum
oh nice
cerulean sable
the issue is that the campaign kinda becomes a slog after some time but overall its exactly what i meant by "resource + campaign in a horror environment"
analog forge
DoD has def stopped devolpment but to my knowledge thats because its completed.
cerulean sable
what im trying to wish is something like Stalker or Silent Hill but theres coop
a lot of the horror coop games are either
- full action where the horror side gets drowned out considering you can just shoot everyone (L4D2)
- full horror where you cant fight back (Phasmaphobia)
another good one i can think of is probably No More Room In Hell
slow paced, tense, gritty environment even though its zombies (a trope im kinda tired of)
analog forge
I was about to say thats not horror, but i was thinking of 99 levels to hell
the problem with coop horror is that both coop and horror are niche genres.
and adding slow paced shooting makes it even more niche
iron spear
What about like silent Hill, but you fight monsters in a perappa the Rappa style rhythm mini game
lament drum
What about like silent Hill, but you fight monsters in a perappa the Rappa style...
this but its just typing of the dead
analog forge
wait hold the fuck up
analog forge
when did i buy spelunky 2?
iron spear
sounds like something konami would make
Pachinko edition
cerulean sable
yup we played the forset
got a bit bland a bit because eventually it gets kinda samey but it was a lot of fun
like, i was so pissed when one of us accidentally chopped a tree and destroyed the campfire i was using to cook food
and the other guy was fucking around with fishing too
Me: "Fucking A Michael, there goes our food"
Michael: "Bro what i didnt do shit i was fishing"
Me: "Who the fuck chopped the tree that broke our campfire then"
Kurt: "Yeah Michael, why would you chop that tree... cough cough"
analog forge
seems like you've pretty much exhausted your horror options then
cerulean sable
yup
analog forge
guess you'll just have to cough play funny robot plant game cough
cerulean sable
funny what now
analog forge
Assault android cactus
lament drum
not multiplayer but subnautica does atmospheric horror pretty good
tawdry valley
Subnautica is scary because of the noises everything keeps making
Atmosphere when it’s meant to be scary is great though
tawdry valley
Pachinko edition
More of a pinball man myself
cerulean sable
the next option i wanna try is Zomboid though, but the beta build thats apparently 2 years worth of content vs the current release isnt out yet, but the community said the progress has gone dramatically up now and theyve been pumping out updates every month
"But ttacco why dont you just fucking play coop on the beta then?"
thing is theyre still updating the multiplayer aspect of it and theres a lot of new optimizations for mult, but sadly its not ready yet so you can only play the beta on solo
and the main branch is kinda limited apparently
lament drum
metro series also has a great sense of atmosphere, not particularly scary though, moreso eerie
tawdry valley
Speaking of; when is the hollow knight foosball table coming out on fangamer
analog forge
honestly, im shocked zomboid isnt out yet
zomboid was like, classic era nerd cubed stuff
https://youtu.be/33XKnLFwLB8 god this was so long ago
chilly nexus
realm grinder is a fantastic idle game, tell ur friends
analog forge
this is false, its a horrible idle game that basically forces you to metagame to make any progress
cerulean sable
iirc they had issues with dev that got fixed like last year
so their development speed went up very dramatically
because last i remember the comments being "the devs dont work on this game anymore"
that was a year ago, this month all of the comments were going "i wish they would release the new stuff soon, the amount of content difference from the beta to the current build is staggering, and im super excited to play it once its stable"
oh wait just checked their blog, they had 3 updates in the span of October lol
great i am reminded of SIlksongs slash sounds
which isnt bad, just wish it wasnt "thwump"
and more like a "zwwwiiiishhh" for more of a slashier sharp sound
hey thats an alliterative
frigid geyser
cuz shes a bug
viral pivot
i mean she doesnt have to be
dusty nimbus
good morning all losers of <#586931790208434203>
Pitta, I will eat you with a kebab for this 
proud vale
good morning all losers of <#586931790208434203>
Damn that’s definitely a different greeting to SilkPals
charred pulsar
tall hinge
tall hinge
Pitta, I will eat you with a kebab for this <:zote:562358113374568477>
and i will enjoy every second of it 
frigid geyser
me when silksong
chrome wave
How much is the needolin discussed here?
brittle garnet
About as much as what we know about it
proud vale
Chad Simo says good morning when it’s well and truly approaching bed time
mortal grove
hello
pallid flare
hello there
marsh ibex
good morning all losers of <#586931790208434203>
‘Sup?
still elm
gm
proud vale
Gday gday
minor gale
Do you guys want something to hold you over till ss comes out
coral carbon
i want to be put into suspended animation until ss comes out
coral carbon
yipes
pallid flare
yipes
proud vale
jinkies
coarse leaf
shuckies
lament lotus
FUUU
brittle garnet
crunkey
olive bobcat
le fake
frank sparrow
nah clearly not a fake what you talking about
marsh ibex
Hornet be like “chidori nagashi”
lament lotus
i dont speak anime
dusty nimbus
le fake
Here we see Hornet after acquiring the blade of Olympus and swearing her revenge to Zeus
lean rampart
I dont really understand why making fake silksong footage but oh well, at least it looks neat
dusty nimbus
nah clearly not a fake what you talking about <:zote:562358113374568477>
Oh nice name
naive flax
would you QA test silksong if TC wanted you to?
pallid flare
no
vivid belfry
You are testing if the quality has been assured
glossy gazelle
Basically it’s what some company do to take care of any glaring issues before launch.
tribal merlin
you mean what some companies don't do 
coarse leaf
would you QA test silksong if TC wanted you to?
Hell yeah
silver oak
you mean what some companies don't do <:feelspkman:639636442821165056>
EA sports, it's in the game
I have a friend who legitimately thought that was their slogan because the logo actually appeared in their games
languid linden
will ss be a timed exclusive to Nintendo?
It will be releasing on Windows, Mac, Linux, and Switch on the first day
cerulean sable
no exclusivity deals mentioned
its more of a case of "we cant release it all on consoles because were gonna end up killing ourselves from the amount of work"\
opaque sigil
Also it’s on PC at launch, that’s not how exclusives work
Wouldn’t be much of an exclusivity deal if it wasn’t exclusive
idk the specifics of the situation with TC and Nintendo but it definitely isn’t an exclusivity thing
regal thunder
It will be releasing on Windows, Mac, Linux, and Switch on the first day
why not consoles also
opaque sigil
Because TC and Nintendo are working together in some capacity, the same cannot be said for other consoles
languid linden
They might release be on other consoles on release but that is not confirmed
opaque sigil
Also iirc HK did really well on switch so it makes sense to prioritize that platform
tribal merlin
Because TC and Nintendo are working together in some capacity, the same cannot b...
well they're not really working together, nintendo is just providing the tools they give every developer for the platform
like nintendo is doing fuck all
opaque sigil
Not closely, but Nintendo is definitely associated with TC more closely than for HK
tribal merlin
wdym by that
opaque sigil
I wasn’t saying Nintendo was contributing to development but they have been advertising and stuff
tribal merlin
they're not doing anything they're not doing for all other devs on the switch platform
I wouldn't say they're associated
opaque sigil
Yeah that wasn’t what I meant 
regal thunder
They *might* release be on other consoles on release but that is not confirmed
i mean why not release it on all platforms
tribal merlin
I think the reason they're releasing on switch as well and not other consoles is because they already have some kind of experience with that
opaque sigil
They’re associated in that it’s been arranged for TC’s game to release on their platform at launch
tribal merlin
and doing more than 1 console is a lot of work
even developing for PC and switch at the same time is a lot of work
opaque sigil
Probably, yeah
Although I do seem to recall Leth mentioning porting as something that was planned but I’m not going to be able to find that source 
tribal merlin
yeh I remember him saying that but he didn't mention a list of targets
tribal merlin
skipping the snes again 
there may be reasons related to what the owners of the consoles think
opaque sigil
SS ps vita version
glossy gazelle
Unless there’s some reason to do one and not the other
I doubt it honestly
opaque sigil
there may be reasons related to what the owners of the consoles think
Yeah but idk what that would be
tribal merlin
what if sony says "yeah but only ps5"
coarse leaf
SS ps vita version <:feelspkman:639636442821165056>
SS gamecube version
trim estuary
They *might* release be on other consoles on release but that is not confirmed
There is another!
tribal merlin
or if they say "we don't like aussies we take 20% from your sales"
opaque sigil
True, something could come up
But unless something does I imagine it would be on both consoles
trim estuary
Silksong? Yeah it will almost most definitely be on Xbox and PS
tribal merlin
depending on how it's coded it could also be easier (=cheaper) to port it to one and more expensive to port it to the other one
opaque sigil
Fair
I also don’t know the HK numbers, it’s possible one of those platforms sold substantially better
glossy gazelle
I would look it up but I can’t be asked
trim estuary
depending on how it's coded it could also be easier (=cheaper) to port it to one...
Aren’t unity games made for all platforms / they’re pretty easy to port in most cases
tribal merlin
nah that's just what people think who didn't have to deal with embedded systems
trim estuary
Huh
tribal merlin
very simple games may be ported with one click, yeah
tribal merlin
but you can't "translate" everything automatically and expect it to run flawlessly and optimized for the platform
regal thunder
i wonder when will the next trailer drop
serene patrol
i wonder when will the next trailer drop<:yeeshaw:732130620330737726>
tomorrow for sure !
opaque sigil
There might not be another trailer, at least not until a release trailer
serene patrol
yea what tammo said
tribal merlin
different hardware has different bottlenecks and you can easily end up with something that runs like dogshit squeezed into a dvd drive
serene patrol
u know what ... i kinda want a meal scene in SS ... u know like those anime ones when the food looks super good?
regal thunder
There might not be another trailer, at least not until a release trailer
the question is when
lament lotus
u know what ... i kinda want a meal scene in SS ... u know like those anime ones...
what
how does hornet eat
tribal merlin
he wants shokugeki no Hornet
serene patrol
how does hornet eat
i dunno thats just me
opaque sigil
Mouth
tribal merlin
with her mouth
serene patrol
i mean shes not VOID ... so she eats ... right?
opaque sigil
She has a mouth it just isn’t drawn
serene patrol
tribal merlin
it is drawn but the line is so fine you need 16K resolution to see it
opaque sigil
Like how Grimm has one but you can only see it when he’s yelling
lament lotus
hmm probably
serene patrol
trim estuary
but you can't "translate" everything automatically and expect it to run flawless...
Yeah I know optimization but very little of the actual game has to be changed right
Like you don’t have to recode entire pieces of the game
serene patrol
the question is when<:agoneyes:836903008116932629>
tomorrow for SURE!
if not ... then the day after that
tribal merlin
Yeah I know optimization but very little of the actual game has to be changed ri...
no but you have to potentially deal with how your game works at a lower level and that can take a lot of time
serene patrol
and after that ... oh! and after that again
lament lotus
then 1 week passes
serene patrol
lament lotus
6 months pass
serene patrol
spongebob memes are the greatest
trim estuary
Is that a meme in #sk-discussion?
serene patrol
is it ???
trim estuary
No
serene patrol
obsidian juniper
Is that a meme in <#586931790208434203>?
Arroba admins Time to exterminate
Btw hi everyone
opaque sigil
coarse leaf
yeeshaw
olive bobcat
stark oxide
Hmm
what news
im see it in notifications
Maybe its not just follow
Interesting
pallid flare
someone is gonna make a ten minute long video detailing why this hints at a february release date
trim estuary
someone is gonna make a ten minute long video detailing why this hints at a febr...
brb
distant saddle
this must mean that silksong is releasing in 30 seconds
serene chasm
Hi SilkFriends™️
pallid flare
hi curly
serene chasm
Hello Pyroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
pallid flare
those are 340 o's >:(
serene chasm
sorry
nimble radish
you counted?
olive bobcat
this must mean that silksong is releasing in 30 seconds
pallid flare
you counted?
fuck no, I let a website do that for me
marsh ibex
no advertising allowed
serene chasm
ok
I always thought that rule meant self advertising. Like going "Check out my twitch/youtube/onlyfans"
serene chasm
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/vastudios/silent-santicado
Reposting the link then
olive bobcat
Ban the HK server for advertising HK 
nimble radish
I always thought that rule meant self advertising. Like going "Check out my twit...
graig did that last one and nothing happened to him 😡 😡
umbral jungle
Bad
dusty nimbus
How's everyone today?
Idk 
sonic bridge
look guys silksong will be on windows 11 too pog https://www.gog.com/game/hollow_knight_silksong
tall hinge
wow
silver oak
insane
obsidian juniper
How's everyone today?
Doing allright,busy with the final school projects of the year but doing allright
And you?
serene chasm
Im doing good. Not much going on in my life, but its good
serene chasm
look guys silksong will be on windows 11 too pog https://www.gog.com/game/hollow...
thats cray cray
obsidian juniper
Im doing good. Not much going on in my life, but its good
Nice
warm bone
wtf is gog
pallid flare
Good old Games
serene chasm
good old games. A digital game store that focused on selling older games, and making them work on modern systems.
pallid flare
without DRM, I might add
warm bone
🤔
serene chasm
Though they expanded to modern games as well. and yeah. they sell drm free games. (Also its owned by CD projekt red)
warm bone
🤮
pallid flare
french speaking hornet?
warm bone
how dare they
pallid flare
i hate the language
obsidian juniper
i hate the language
Why?
warm bone
I am sorry for your loss
stark estuary
The joke is that the French translation of HK is laughably bad.
tall hinge
serene chasm
@ mods
english only server. ban lero
pallid flare
I wish I could've gone with Spanish instead
obsidian juniper
@ mods
english only server. ban lero
flashbacks de Vietnam
pallid flare
no it isn't
tall hinge
stark estuary
Damn, I knew Tammo was a sussy baka.
blazing geyser
Tammy, you mean?
warm bone
who
stark estuary
Tammy*
dusty nimbus
Now my Tammy hurts 
tall hinge
blazing geyser
There is noquirrelwithus
nimble radish
noquirrelamongus
round sonnet
I want more hollow knight but playing as hornet is not for me i will play it but i hate playing as hornet
tribal merlin
no you don't
willow sinew
"I have not played silksong but have already decided that I hate it but I will play it anyway and complain the whole time"
marsh ibex
I want more hollow knight but playing as hornet is not for me i will play it but...
Did you…play the demo?
if not, why do you hate playing as a character you have never played as?
willow sinew
5head pepega
round sonnet
Did you…play the demo?
you got a point there
marsh ibex
serene chasm
SS is gonna suck cause you play as hornet who is a girl and we all know girl main characters suck
jade canopy
I’m trying to remember the last time where I played a game with a girl main character
olive bobcat
SS is gonna suck cause you play as hornet who is a girl and we all know girl mai...
"Now that's a meme I haven't heard in a long time..."
copper knot
SS is gonna suck cause you play as hornet who is a girl and we all know girl mai...
but i like ender lillies :(
round sonnet
I’m trying to remember the last time where I played a game with a girl main char...
yep
potent plover
I’m trying to remember the last time where I played a game with a girl main char...
actually trying to think the same thing
worn terrace
SS is gonna suck cause you play as hornet who is a girl and we all know girl mai...
ya sure about that
copper knot
I’m trying to remember the last time where I played a game with a girl main char...
ender lillies, ez
willow sinew
SS is gonna suck cause you play as hornet who broke into my house last week, finished my milk and put the empty carton back in the fridge without telling anyone fuck you hornet I was going to make pancakes this weekend
potent plover
actually trying to think the same thing
I think it was slime rancher
jade canopy
actually trying to think the same thing
Like Celeste doesn’t count, nor does a short hike uhhhh
marsh ibex
how come celeste doesn’t count
copper knot
Like Celeste doesn’t count, nor does a short hike uhhhh
wdym by celeste doesnt count
worn terrace
does undertale count since we dont know main characters genders
copper knot
does undertale count since we dont know main characters genders
no
worn terrace
why
willow sinew
how come celeste doesn’t count
Because she's 2 girls or something, idk I've never actually played celeste
jade canopy
I don’t think the main character (doesn’t want to spell a name) is gendered
serene chasm
but i like ender lillies :(
You have bad taste
copper knot
You have bad taste
have u even played it lol
marsh ibex
I don’t think the main character (doesn’t want to spell a name) is gendered
What, madeline? They’re a chick
potent plover
You have bad taste
I have bad taste quite literally in real life
worn terrace
main character is ungendered
understandable have a great day
potent plover
Speaking of taste, do you guys think food will be in silksong?
jade canopy
What, madeline? They’re a chick
Idk I though I heard that somewhere
olive bobcat
Speaking of taste, do you guys think food will be in silksong?
Not for Hornet
potent plover
I can just imagine hornet going into some kinda food place
copper knot
Idk I though I heard that somewhere
were you talking about madeline or frisk
olive bobcat
Idk I though I heard that somewhere
Probs something to do with Madeline being trans
serene chasm
SS survival mode.
worn terrace
Speaking of taste, do you guys think food will be in silksong?
yea i guess i will make hornet taste some anti-spider spray
copper knot
frisk is genderless, madeline is a girl
worn terrace
see if she survives
potent plover
I mean the bugs of pharloom have to eat somehow
jade canopy
Probs something to do with Madeline being trans
Yeah your right my bad
potent plover
Unless its a poggy thorax kinda situation
blazing geyser
SS is gonna suck cause you play as hornet who is a girl and we all know girl mai...
It's a good thing Samus is a guy then
worn terrace
i wonder how many people asked the cursed question or am i the only one who asked it in here
you know what it is
potent plover
i wonder how many people asked the cursed question or am i the only one who aske...
what?
marsh ibex
if you ask I immediately sspsa you
jade canopy
Someone about to get sspsa
languid linden
?sspsa
thin zephyrBOT
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
jade canopy
I’m 🐌
copper knot
do we have any news for silksong
pallid flare
evil captain fordo be like:
worn terrace
Someone about to get sspsa
what does it mean
worn terrace
(yea i am not a old user of discord)
copper knot
evil furry catboy sans be like:
i am a perfectly functional member of society
potent plover
any ss news hornet is void silksong is a prequel lace and hornet are
must be one of those
frigid geyser
me when silksong
uncut citrus
I mean we aren’t really sure if Silksong is a prequel or not
frank mist
Silksong is becoming the next Geometry Dash 2.2
uncut citrus
Speaking of taste, do you guys think food will be in silksong?
I’m like 99% sure there will be some kind of food because in the description of the caravan (where the adult flees are at) it says they got food and since they’ll reward you for rescuing the flees they will probably give you boosting food, also there a place called the tavern so...
You can look at the caravan description at the TC website if you want the exact words i can’t quote it rn
mild loom
I finally did it, my charm build worked, and i beat radiant sly 😭
i just have 3 more, and the 2 nailmasters are gonna be pretty easy
languid linden
Sir this is SS-discussion
mild loom
whoops
tall hinge
you beat radiant markoth before nailmasters?
reef scarab
I finally did it, my charm build worked, and i beat radiant sly 😭
how the fuck do you have markoth before nailmasters
frank marten
hardest first maybe
mild loom
you beat radiant markoth before nailmasters? <:agoneyes:836903008116932629>
yeah, i went through and did the ones that i knew would be easy, then went left to right, starting at the bottom floor
reef scarab
I’ve done radiant hog and markoth is harder than absrad
mild loom
markoth just happened to be before them, in that order
but, ima leave this chat now, sorry for posting in the wrong one 
frank marten
is alright, congrats anyway
reef scarab
Because she's 2 girls or something, idk I've never actually played celeste
the two girls cancel out
copper knot
girl + girl = boy????
potent plover
hornet will drink Fanta confirmed
tribal merlin
there's nothing powerful about fanta apart from the diarrhea
potent plover
there's nothing powerful about fanta apart from the diarrhea
fanta is orange, and in hollow knight you know what that means
tribal merlin
death
potent plover
☢️
tribal merlin
by diarrhea
potent plover
by diarrhea <:zote:562358113374568477>
voilent husk
cunning mesa
I finally did it, my charm build worked, and i beat radiant sly 😭
I CANT BEAT VANILLA SLY
mild loom
I CANT BEAT VANILLA SLY
in the normal one, you can get quick slash and fragile/unbreakable strength, and face tank, until he staggers, heal three, and do it again
cunning mesa
Good to know, thanks
mild loom
if he’s nice, and you dodge all of the great slashes that he does (they deal 2 damage) you should be aight untill the last phase
i’m sending a vid one what to do for the last one, nailmasters glory is priceless in this fight, because they have amazing range and do great damage in one hit
i use only nail arts, because it’s safer to do one of those, and you do more damage, than if you were to use normal nail hits. not to mention you can dash out of the way easier, whist doing the same amount of damage to him
mild loom
I CANT BEAT VANILLA SLY
Here’s a clip of what i did in the last phase
cunning mesa
Look at you, with your proper use of nail arts, and your good dodging
pallid flare
imagine being good at the game, could not be me
mild loom
😭 remember i face tanked him at first
i’ll send the yt link i stole this from
here, instead of dream nail, i used unbreakable strength for any normal nail hits i did, and instead of shaman and dream wielder, i used mark of pride and long nail
but since your not doing it radiant, and i assume you don’t wanna overcharm, you could use unbreakable heart and long nail, or anything else you wanna use
hope it helps, sly is basically my kryptonite
marsh ibex
Here’s a clip of what i did in the last phase
Why are you using glowing womb
coarse leaf
get with the times joker
mild loom
Why are you using glowing womb <:agoneyes:836903008116932629>
because i’m not using spells, and obviously i’m not healing, so i don’t need the soul, so why not put it to good use for a bit of extra damage, as i’m not using it for anything else
marsh ibex
Reported to discord
mild loom
dang
mild loom
Reported to discord
look it’s not THATTTT bad of a charm. i could be using heavy blow
pallid flare
why aren't you using spells
high hedge
Skill
mild loom
why aren't you using spells
idk, i couldn’t find a good place to put them in there whilst also using nail arts
he also moves so fast towards me, that when i tried a spell build, not being able to move during shade souls and shrieks was getting me killed
the duration of a nail art is significantly less than spells
just constantly being able to move was my saving grace
it doesn’t show in the clip, but im pretty sure i used 2 shrieks during the last phase towards the beginning, he just moves so fast they only hit once
blazing geyser
look it’s not THATTTT bad of a charm. i could be using heavy blow
Heavy blow op wdym. Gives you breathing room and reduces the amount of hits needed to stagger. Way better than making a kid's corpse birth suicide bombers smh.
mild loom
Heavy blow op wdym. Gives you breathing room and reduces the amount of hits need...
or i could just, ya know, use an actual good charm like long nail or something, which gives me even more breathing room for the same amount of charm space, but have an even better effect. one less hit to stagger doesn’t mean anything lmao. i cant tell if your serious 😩
if i have two notches, i’m not using it on steady blow, no matter what 😭
stark estuary
Longnail isn't "good" either.
The very small range increase is not worth the two notches
coarse leaf
Longnail and mark of pride 
coarse leaf
Never a bad thing to just fuck around 👍🪠🦆🪛
stark estuary
Would much rather use those two notches for spell twister or like, Sbody + NMG/Dwielder
still elm
Dave
serene chasm
Im afraid I cant let you do that
proud vale
Yo this rlly became hk-discussion 
serene chasm
Gross. This is for good games only.
proud vale
Yeah get that trash outta this sacred haven
crude trail
Yo this rlly became hk-discussion <a:fastvessel:903117218705993759>
this is hk-discussion.
Silksong is a myth
cerulean sable
another one to the counter
formal karma
eww
uncut citrus
look it’s not THATTTT bad of a charm. i could be using heavy blow
Bruh I beat sly with heavy blow ._.
proud vale
I wonder if Graig voices grindle
hollow sedge
nah graig voices the final boss
proud vale
No Sherma prime doesn’t have voice lines so back to the drawing board on that one
gilded adder
Sherma Prime
proud vale
Yeah 3 phases, each with 4 deathblows
gilded adder
And you can only unlock him as a boss fight if you don't help him each time you encounter him, showing how negligence can lead to frightening results.
proud vale
Yeah it's like the sans fight in undertale
gilded adder
Sherma Prime has one eye that has a blue glow too.
And a blue coat.
And talks in comic sans font.
proud vale
yeah the fight is crazy, there's only like a 3 frame window to time your i-frames right in that attack where he covers the whole screen in a mega lazer
Crazy that they left that in the game though
gilded adder
Yea, insanity.
burnt topaz
Sherma Prime has one eye that has a blue glow too.
And a blue coat.
And talks in...
new pfp idea
gilded adder
Sherma Sans, make it a reality.
proud vale
I can still only get up to phase 2, but the runback starting at mossy grotto all the way up to citadel hitless can be grating at times
burnt topaz
I can still only get up to phase 2, but the runback starting at mossy grotto all...
this sentence is the kind of stuff nightmares are made of
flashbacks to hive knight
proud vale
Imagine delicate flower but from dirtmouth to abyss but just to vs the hardest boss in the game
burnt topaz
didnt someone already do PoP with delicate flower?
proud vale
That's pretty sick if so... I didn't know DF broke when you're in a dream?
burnt topaz
well white palace sorta teeters on the edge of being a dream or not
proud vale
But I have seen hitless PoP runs yeah
burnt topaz
you die in WP on steel soul despite it being a ''dream''
proud vale
WP?
burnt topaz
in the lore it may be a dream but in the code its just as real as everything else
stark estuary
In the lore it's a real location in a dream.
Which explains why TK dies for real there.
burnt topaz
That's hella rough
ehh its alright, just cheese it with hive blood if youre really struggling
burnt topaz
In the lore it's a real location in a dream.
oh ok
proud vale
I feel like if you die in a location that wouldn't leave a shade behind it shouldn't count 
burnt topaz
the real tragedy is the person who first found out about dying in wp on ss
proud vale
Yeah true that's a little sad
burnt topaz
thats a good couple of hours setback at the minimum
proud vale
One day I'll learn how to speedrun the game
serene chasm
How to speedrun HK: Play the game fast
proud vale
Curly how
serene chasm
Just set the game speed to 2x
proud vale
Insert shaggy using 1% of his power meme here
cerulean sable
silksong needs hunger mechanics
fiery coral
cerulean sable
like ya gotta rest on the bench after 10 minutes because shell all be sleepy
fiery coral
Eat every 10 minutes or attack is reduced by 20%
cerulean sable
also before you go out hunting, you gotta take your time by eating and drinking at a town tavern
fiery coral
have stamina as well while you're at it
gilded adder
Eat every 10 minutes or attack is reduced by 20%
But if you eat too much, Hornet will get all slow and groggy.
gilded adder
also before you go out hunting, you gotta take your time by eating and drinking ...
So basically Monster Hunter
proud vale
Well fed bonus for silksong
cerulean sable
i joke but i absolutely love games where you have a downtime of hanging out in the tavern before going out
tribal schooner
Just make SilkSong 3D
cerulean sable
Monster Hunter is a valid example, but i was thinking more like Stalker
fiery coral
Eat too much and your speed is reduced by 20% 
cerulean sable
where the Zone has full of fucked up mutants, bandits that wants to steal your shit, and weather that will literally fry your brains and stuff, that going back to safe zones feels great
all the while with how radioactive Chernobyl is
like in that game, i ALWAYS try to go back to a safe zone before 5pm
because i DO NOT want to be outside by then
proud vale
Sounds like dying light
gilded adder
where the Zone has full of fucked up mutants, bandits that wants to steal your s...
The movie the game is based off of is really good btw, same name as the game. It's in Russian.
cerulean sable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FAqM_yjAus Obligatory
yeah Roadside Picnic right?
gilded adder
yeah Roadside Picnic right?
That's the book. The movie is called Stalker.
cerulean sable
ye ye
gilded adder
All three are like interconnected and inspired by each other.
proud vale
Holy crap
gilded adder
I think it went book > movie > game
gilded adder
Yea, for sure.
cerulean sable
like the book and movie was all about the area having some kind of alien influence causing weird phenomena (like theres an abandoned basement part of a factory with spiderwebs, where if you touch it, youll die from a heart attack after a few minutes)\
the game was essentially "fucked up experiment by scientist causing the zone, and we added mutated animals in it"
gilded adder
I see
cerulean sable
and mutant humans too overall
gilded adder
Also, PSA to play Death's Gambit: Afterlife because it's been scratching that HK itch so well for me lately.
cerulean sable
and hate these invisible fuckers, worst part of the game imo was the time they ask you to hunt down a fully grown Chimera by yourself, and you have to do it around 10pm-2am midnight because thats the time they usually go on hunting mode
yeah eyeing on gambit though ill try it once im in the HK mood again
considered getting Knights Quietus though
dusty axle
Nkg is afun biss
Boss
Literally bliss to do no hit
Just like oure vessel
Bur besy bosd i game is sisfers of battke
gilded adder
yeah eyeing on gambit though ill try it once im in the HK mood again
The game just got revamped in September of this year with new levels, bosses, weapons, abilities, metroidvania upgrades to the map, etc. It originally came out in 2018 and I pre-ordered it then but didn't play much and now I went back to it 'cause of the big free update and been loving it. The leveling system and character customization is akin to Dark Souls with different classes and stats, so if you like that, you'll feel right at home.
cerulean sable
yeah yeah i know, im surprised given how lukewarm the original game was, but they still pushed to improved it
dusty axle
Wrong Chanel
cerulean sable
was gonna say
dusty axle
Which gzmd is kukeswadm
gilded adder
yeah yeah i know, im surprised given how lukewarm the original game was, but the...
Yea, the original game got mixed reception and even the devs felt they underperformed so they spent the past 3 years rehauling the game. I got to give props to them. Takes a special team of dedicated people who love their project and are truly passionate in it to do that.
dusty axle
Lukrwarm
gilded adder
Death's Gambit.
cerulean sable
Yea, the original game got mixed reception and even the devs felt they underperf...
yeah, majority of devs wouldve just noped out of it and moved on to newer games
its not really that often i see a full overhaul happens like No Man's Sky
seriously biggest redemption arc yet
gilded adder
Yea, I've heard about that. Never played the original nor the updated version so I'm mostly out of the loop.
Btw, the music, art, and voice acting are stellar for DG. This track in particular is one of my favorites in the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjI9zcWILB8&ab_channel=JoeDoe
cerulean sable
i saw the original game but never played it
it was one of those "wow looks cool"
checked the steam page
"mostly positive"
and mehd out
gilded adder
Yea, I feel that.
The steam page is the same as the original game so it's really funny to see the 79% rating below a 94% rating.
cerulean sable
seriously it the best new feature of steam
it makes it easier to know if the game is worth it now
gilded adder
Yea, it's really good.
cerulean sable
i can easily buy a game that has 95+ positives over a mixed in the early years
like you KNOW the game has improved
reef scarab
I liked the new video speculating about the random hollow knight updates
proud vale
That's why I bought Outer Wilds
Had overwhelmingly positive review status when I picked it up
ivory quarry
Pov: you are wait for ss
gilded adder
considered getting Knights Quietus though
Also, what's Knights Quietus? Ender Lilies?
ivory quarry
So is this channel ded or what?
gilded adder
Sometimes
proud vale
This channel is off-topic until silksong comes up pretty much
We once had a very engaging conversation about everyone's favourite foods
cerulean sable
Also, what's Knights Quietus? Ender Lilies?
yeah
gilded adder
yeah
Yea, that game has my eye too. I'm thinking of picking it up and playing it after Death's Gambit.
cerulean sable
yeah it and quickly goes back and forth between offtopic and "Look all im saying is TC shouldnt take that much time to update us that the game is still being made"
reef scarab
I haven’t played ender lilies since I 100%’d it
cerulean sable
i like the artstyle
gilded adder
I haven’t played ender lilies since I 100%’d it
What are your thoughts on it?
reef scarab
What are your thoughts on it?
It’s been a long time and I played before a lot of QoL improvements
proud vale
yeah it and quickly goes back and forth between offtopic and "Look all im saying...
don't get-a me started
reef scarab
It has an extremely strong start I’d say, but later game it gets pretty repetitive (and the final area is just plain unfun with enemies you literally have to camp to kill lol)
gilded adder
Oh, it seems like it was in Early Access for some time. That's odd considering it's meant to be a Metroidvania but it's out of 1.0 now and has received a patch since then.
reef scarab
Ender Lilies is a mixed bag for me
gilded adder
Interesting
cerulean sable
It has an extremely strong start I’d say, but later game it gets pretty repetiti...
sounds like a Skill Issue™️ 😎
for real tho thats a shame, been wanting to get it recently
mild loom
The very small range increase is not worth the two notches
better than heavy blow, and other 2 notch charms weren’t cutting it. Spell twister is useless, i’m not using spells. Cant use fury, cuz i’m not getting hit. Cant use a baulder Shell or Unn, cuz i’m not healing, the lifeblood charms are useless, and the other two minion charms are even worse
i couldn’t use a three notch one, without not being able to use other charms i needed, and the one notch charms available are even worse than the two notches
stark estuary
And is there a reason you're not using spells?
stark estuary
i couldn’t use a three notch one, without not being able to use other charms i n...
This is incorrect. There are some very strong one-notch charms.
Steady Body, Dream Wielder, Grubsong, NMG are all one-notch and are all stronger than Longnail, I would say. Plus, you can equip two of them for the same price.
mild loom
this was my build
i ain’t dream nailing sly, especially on radiant, she i could get a nail art in
stiff owl
wha
stark estuary
My eyes
stiff owl
youre overcharmed
warm bone
mild loom
and grubsong is useless in radiant fights, as i just don’t like steady body
proud vale
What does being overcharmed do again
stark estuary
No Strength
warm bone
What does being overcharmed do again
Double damag
mild loom
everyone’s always surprised about that build i use, but the speed is insane, along with the shade cloak distance being able to go through almost all of his attacks is insane
warm bone
you're just overcharmed for no reason
mild loom
it’s a radiant fight my guy
proud vale
Dash master makes sense but sprint master doesn't make too much sense to me
warm bone
glowing womb lmao
stark estuary
Everyone's surprised because it's a "Nail build" which doesn't have Strength or QS
proud vale
yeah i would go quick slash over longnail for sure
mild loom
glowing womb put the soul i wasn’t using, into damage, be it not much. sprint master is just for movement in between dashes
warm bone
spells do the same thing, for more damage
mild loom
again. i was only using nail arts. quick slash and strength doesn’t apply to them
stark estuary
Use spells...
proud vale
Wuh why use only NArts
mild loom
cuz 80% of the time i’d get caught in a bad spot, whilst frozen in an abyss shriek
stiff owl
which radiant are they doing
stark estuary
again. i was only using nail arts. quick slash and strength doesn’t apply to the...
You're just making life difficult for yourself. And if you're only using Narts/SShadow, then why waste 5 notches on nail lengthening charms
warm bone
than do a downward and get those sweet I-frames
proud vale
I-frames busted 
mild loom
You're just making life difficult for yourself. And if you're only using Narts/S...
because if i were to miss a nail art, i could follow up with a quick swing, and it not be punishing.
stark estuary
You can do the same thing with a conventional build
mild loom
everyone’s just upset because i used nail arts instead of spells
i’m shit at this fight, and it worked amazing so-
stark estuary
...you can use both
stiff owl
nail arts are weird to me
mild loom
or i could not risk it lmao
warm bone
I think everyone's giving you flack because its just a bad build
stiff owl
but they are strong
mild loom
nail arts are weird to me
it gets like, immediately 10x better using nailmasters glory
mild loom
I think everyone's giving you flack because its just a bad build
it’s meant to do one nail art, and get as far away as possible. it’s not meant to be a dps build or anything
proud vale
Why not just slash 3-4 times with quick slash and deal more damage than if you were using a nail art
stark estuary
MoP, Strength, QS, NMG/Sbody and Shaman. There, a build with much better DPS, almost the exact same nail range, and no Sharp Shadow or Gwomb.
warm bone
it’s meant to do one nail art, and get as far away as possible. it’s not meant t...
isn't dps the goal
for any build
mild loom
nahhh staying alive is better. seeing how he doesn’t have much health anyways
stiff owl
theres health builds
proud vale
You do you bro
stiff owl
but if its radiant theyre useless
and if you use nail arts you should have strength on too
mild loom
and, again, for the 100th time, i’m shit, and just need to be safe, and doing ok damage.
fiery coral
play how you want
mild loom
and if you use nail arts you should have strength on too
it doesn’t work with nail arts sadly
fiery coral
end of story, really
mild loom
i play an aggressive dps style with every other boss, but he’s too fast, and too small to do that. i even did it on ascended
stiff owl
who are you doing
stark estuary
Esmy
mild loom
what do you think i should have used instead of the nail length
warm bone
quickslash
mild loom
who are you doing
we are talking about how i beat sly on ascended
stiff owl
ohhhhhhhhhhh
mild loom
quickslash
it doesn’t apply to nail arts
stiff owl
dont overcharm ascended
stark estuary
*it doesn’t apply to nail arts*
Nor does longnail
mild loom
dont overcharm ascended
it was radiant, i die in one hit
warm bone
*it doesn’t apply to nail arts*
don't use only nail arts, that is a very trash plan
mild loom
Nor does longnail
however, if i were to miss one, i could immediately follow up with a normal swing, with staying in safe distance
stiff owl
next level useful
stark estuary
Longnail barely increases your Nail length
stiff owl
you can shade soul being across the map
mild loom
cyclone slash does the same as abyss shriek using shaman stone 😩
stiff owl
but it puts you in a weak position
mild loom
but it puts you in a weak position
and abyss shriek keeps me in place for half a year
stiff owl
you shouldnt be using either on sly
stark estuary
cyclone slash does the same as abyss shriek using shaman stone 😩
Yeah but you have to land every hit, which can be considerably more difficult depending on the boss. It also takes longer.
warm bone
cyclone slash does the same as abyss shriek using shaman stone 😩
leaves you open for too long
stark estuary
With Sly you'll mostly be using Shade Soul and DDark though
mild loom
not really, i was using cyclone slash after spins, and great slash the rest of the time
stiff owl
spells are great on sly too
mild loom
With Sly you'll mostly be using Shade Soul and DDark though
it’s not like i forbid myself from using them
i just, didn’t really find myself using spells ever, so put that soul to good use
stiff owl
why not quick heal to use that soul then
mild loom
long nail didn’t help much, but it’s still there, and there wasn’t much else
stark estuary
why not quick heal to use that soul then
Radiant
mild loom
why not quick heal to use that soul then
it’s on radiant. i die in one hit
mild loom
which is why i have movement charms on
stiff owl
soul is useless in radiant fights if youre not using spells
mild loom
and i wasn’t using spells like ever
mild loom
soul is useless in radiant fights if youre not using spells
so get some damage in, if ever you can, with glowing womb, why not
warm bone
because you have better alternatives
mild loom
movement charms arent necessary
yeah, the dash speed charge definitely was, not to mention dashmaster increases your sharp shadow damage
mild loom
because you have better alternatives
i already listed why i didn’t use them
stark estuary
~~Sharp Shadow 
~~
stiff owl
sharp shadow is incredibly useful
stark estuary
With Sly you can avoid most attacks by simply dashing or walking in the other direction.
warm bone
i already listed why i didn’t use them
still better alternatives tho
stiff owl
With Sly you can avoid most attacks by simply dashing or walking in the other di...
sharp shadow guves longer dash distance and can hurt him in second phase
mild loom
With Sly you can avoid most attacks by simply dashing or walking in the other di...
which, again, i use the movement charms to help a bit with that, as i’m getting nail arts in at every possible opportunity. It helps if i get stuck in a corner, dash master and sprint master make you so fast, you never have to worry about that.
stiff owl
what kills you the most
mild loom
lmao everything
stiff owl
eh eh
mild loom
myself, it helps me if i mess up positioning. it just works out either way
stiff burrow
Wrong channel for this discussion isn't it
mild loom
Wrong channel for this discussion isn't it
damn
stark estuary
Wrong channel for this discussion isn't it
Welcome to #sk-discussion , where the channel is never on topic.
stiff burrow
At least usually it's a topic that doesn't have a different channel designated for it
mild loom
how do you dodge each attack
cyclone slash, i get on the wall, the. when he falls i retaliate with my own cyclone slash. With the dash slash i jump in the air, fall down, and retaliate with another nail art. Great slash i just dash away. All the other times, i just predict where he’s going, and get in the best spot to do a great slash
stark estuary
At least usually it's a topic that doesn't have a different channel designated f...
You'd hope so
mild loom
rn we are discussing why glowing womb, and longnail aren’t that awful, i could be trying to defend heavy blow
stiff owl
you shouldnt get on the wall, you can jump on top of him to get a hit of damage if you hit him
mild loom
you shouldnt get on the wall, you can jump on top of him to get a hit of damage ...
if you go to the very top he will never hit you. he can only go the height that he started the cyclone slash at, it’s just safer. not to mention then you can come down and hit with a cyclone slash really fast
stiff owl
with dash slash you can jump, and shade soul him from the middle of the map
mild loom
wow, but cyclone slash does more. a lot more lmao
warm bone
yeah can y'all please go to #hk-discussion
mild loom
if i used a three notch charm instead of a two notch, i wouldn’t be able to fit anything else. long nail just gave me the biggest buff for this build
warm bone
this is not the place for this
stiff owl
we should go there
olive bone
song
stark estuary
Sus
stiff owl
so does anybody actually believe silksong is coming out in febrary
stark estuary
No lol
stiff owl
February
proud vale
I’m definitely not ruling it out
warm bone
I will
warm bone
no reason, just seems hip and cool
opaque sigil
Discounting the validity of the leaked date and ruling out a february release are different things. It may come out in february, but the date isn't indicator of such
stark estuary
I mean the likelihood of it coming out in any given month is empirically quite low.
opaque sigil
That isn't a reason to assume it is less likely to release in feb than any other month
stark estuary
There's no reason to assume it'll release in feb specifically either
stiff owl
theres still no offical new on it yet
opaque sigil
There's no news on it, period
stiff owl
i hope it doesnt get cancelled
opaque sigil
That's not a reasonable consideration, really
stark estuary
It won't
fiery coral
then again worries like that are at least more reasonable than stuff like "Are TC even alive"
opaque sigil
The fact that it is more reasonable does not make it reasonable
stark estuary
Low bar
fiery coral
yes
stiff owl
I think it's too low of a chance though
2022 is a little more likely, it is a massive game.
opaque sigil
then again worries like that are at least more reasonable than stuff like "Are T...
Although considering the conditions in which the game would be cancelled the worries are about equivalent
stark estuary
Guys TC forgot about Silksong and aren't working on it anymore guys it's true guys they're busy working on the new elder scrolls game
opaque sigil
On the one hand: No Silksong
On the other: Damn good elder scrolls game 
iron spear
Silksong has crumbled
fathom peak
that's amazing news 
iron spear
What do you think the reasons for silksong taking so long are
I should make a poll I'm just interested
fathom peak
well, the size and that TC are still adding stuff right?
thats what i remember from their interview
fathom peak
yeah
iron spear
Tammo you are right, it's not taking long at all
But I mean in people's minds I wonder why they think it is
opaque sigil
Beats me
iron spear
People need to stop thinking in meme cycles lmao. Silksong was announced 239 memes ago
fiery coral
possibly because they think they're not receiving regular enough updates, for whatever reason
other reasons I've seen are that Treehouse lady and Nintendo saying "soon", and impressions from the announcement trailer
iron spear
Yeah it's doesnt help that Nintendo have a direct every god damn month
Yeah.... League
fathom peak
no not league
gardening
gardening > league
iron spear
Insert renamed .exe here
stark estuary
I feel like people just underestimate the time it takes in order to make a game. The memes aren't helping much either 
iron spear
To be fair, 4 years is like 1/3 their lives
stark estuary
well those memes are the only ones the community has
Yeah but it gives people the impression that the game is in "development hell", even though it clearly isn't.
iron spear
Now for the real question. How many Simos does it take to Benji a Benji's Simo?
fathom peak
Yeah but it gives people the impression that the game is in "development hell", ...
you're right that it isnt
but thats just the nature of memes and shitposts
one does it, another picks it up, sooner or later everyone's doing it (regardless if it's true/untrue)
stark estuary
Now for the real question. How many Simos does it take to Benji a Benji's Simo?
More than two
tribal schooner
I think a big part of it is the inicial hype. It is a common marketing strategy but TC made SilkSong look finished from the day it was announced and it had a lot of cool new things. With the hype and the perspective of being close to finished I think many people have been too excited. Kinda like watching a pot boil it feels like forever cause you pay attention to ever second that passes by
fiery coral
first part of that paragraph is kinda what I meant by "impressions from the announcement trailer" yeah ^
tribal schooner
Oh gotcha
iron spear
It's the demo I think
fathom peak
well they didnt show that much? not more than other game trailers usually show
i remember from the trailer there were some areas, some bosses, enemies, hornet's movement and attacks, npcs, quests... well that does seem like a lot
but i dont think its so much that people start thinking its finished/close to finished
iron spear
People saw a fully playable demo and thought the game was nearly done, which is a fair assumption to make
haughty ingot
graig congrats on your promotion to community leader
fathom peak
oh
well yeah that does make sense
stark estuary
Yeah - there's also this weird idea going around that the game is already finished but that TC is waiting for the "right time" to release it
stark estuary
Knew it
iron spear
Anyrad 2.0 radiant
fathom peak
cool
dusty ginkgo
When is this Right time
Should I become a Hollow Knight Elderbug AllDialogues Speedrunner instead to satisfy the team
stark estuary
When is this ***Right time***
After RadAnyRad2.0AB is defeated using a dance pad.
tawdry valley
When is this ***Right time***
When Metroid dread 2 is announced; that way the metroid and Silksong hype combine
tribal schooner
My inicial impression from the demo was that the two general arenas were two of about seven based on the trailer. Is there more areas than we know about?
tawdry valley
My inicial impression from the demo was that the two general arenas were two of ...
There are (very) likely to be more. There may be one above the citadel that we have not seen.
Hollow knight has about 13 main Areas, not including sub areas, *dirtmouth/KP, the hive, and East CoT
tribal schooner
Well I was just thinking. The trailers to hollow knight showed what half of the areas in the whole game right. So if the are following that same pattern ,which they may not be, but if they are then there are probably double than what we know about
stark estuary
Fog Canyon, King's Pass, City of Tears.
tawdry valley
Fool
stark estuary
Fog Canyon was a typo I presume
cerulean sable
What do you think the reasons for silksong taking so long are
integrating multiplayer online deathmatch
stark estuary
Can also mean Forgotten Crossroads
tawdry valley
It was forgotten crossroads I was referring to, yeah
tawdry valley
What do you think the reasons for silksong taking so long are
Game big / Early development setback / it’s almost done / it doesn’t exist
stiff owl
What do you think the reasons for silksong taking so long are
bug killing
tawdry valley
I’d hate to be a TC dev right now, because everybody is flipping between “game big” and “it’s almost done” which probably puts pressure on the team.
stiff owl
they wouldnt want it to be like hk where if you get hit by 2 things at once you start levitating
dusty ginkgo
When Metroid dread 2 is announced; that way the metroid and Silksong hype combin...
ah that makes sense
tardy raft
What do you think the reasons for silksong taking so long are
RobTop School of 'this is a cool idea, we should add it'
dusty ginkgo
looks like they'll further delay it since we now know
tawdry valley
looks like they'll further delay it since we now know <:zote:562358113374568477>
Delay? They have yet to announce a release date
Your expectations are your own.
stiff owl
they want to keep adding things
dusty ginkgo
you think they'll do it in february next year
stiff owl
thats what started this conversation
tawdry valley
Literally everybody has guessed February next year, every year
stiff owl
imagine its on twosday
stark estuary
Trying to predict a release year/month is not a fruitful line of reasoning
tardy raft
Literally everybody has guessed February next year, every year
November was an option at one point
stiff owl
2/22/22 would be hilarious
dusty ginkgo
tardy raft
dude your gifs are crusty as hell
stiff owl
little ghost?
stiff owl
arent all vessels and the collector and kings molds void given form
cerulean sable
i lowkey dislike how the knight is called ghost i just wish hornet gets called outsider or something instead
stiff owl
i call them the enlightened vessel
opaque sigil
Well she can introduce herself
dusty ginkgo
Hornet is void
tardy raft
the knight gets called names because it's short, and short people deserve no respect
stiff owl
or void knight
gilded adder
i lowkey dislike how the knight is called ghost i just wish hornet gets called o...
Isn't Hornet called Spider by others? Or Little Spider?
stark estuary
arent all vessels and the collector and kings molds void given form
Void Given Form specifically refers to the form which TK takes in DNM.
opaque sigil
Hornet just came up with a descriptor for the knight because there's no real name
cerulean sable
Isn't Hornet called Spider by others? Or Little Spider?
yeah that makes sense
willow sinew
integrating multiplayer online deathmatch
*battle royale mode
dusty ginkgo
The Gendered Child
pastel aspen
wow, this chat is still going strong even after the one year I've been gone
stark estuary
Collector is also VGF, Void Given Fingers
cerulean sable
hey unpopular but i always found "little ghost" to be forced cuteness naming
dusty ginkgo
Aren't all vessels genderless?
stiff owl
Void Given Form specifically refers to the form which TK takes in DNM.
I thought that was the shade lord
tardy raft
oh shit curry's back
opaque sigil
hey unpopular but i always found "little ghost" to be forced cuteness naming
I've never really considered it to be that cute
dusty ginkgo
wb curry
cerulean sable
well it feels like it is to me
stiff owl
like a little mini shade lord
opaque sigil
It feels more like an objective description than a pet name
stark estuary
I thought that was the shade lord
"Shade Lord" comes from a noncanon file name, and doesn't refer to Void Given Form, but rather Void Given Focus.
cerulean sable
it feels like it is for me
opaque sigil
Yeah I'm saying that it's the opposite for me
cerulean sable
i just never vibed with it
fathom peak
"Shade Lord" comes from a noncanon file name, and doesn't refer to Void Given Fo...
oh yeah lore moment in ss-discussion
lezgo 
stiff owl
isnt the one youre referring to counted as a shade
tawdry valley
Little spider is the new name, so ig get used to it @cerulean sable
cerulean sable
id rather call them "failed child #543351" before i call them little ghost
fathom peak
id rather call them "failed child #543351" before i call them little ghost
how about The Knight
the one TC used
cerulean sable
Knight works too but i prefer my version
opaque sigil
Little spider isn't affectionate it's passive aggressive
fathom peak
Knight works too but i prefer my version
understandable
tawdry valley
Every vessel has a barcode on their body, we just can’t see it because their body is the same shade as the barcode
#deeplore
fathom peak
oh yeah that is deep lore
stiff owl
what if the slope of their horns was the number they were
cerulean sable
if Hornet starts getting overly dramatic titles from Pharloom like Pale Princess of Pharloom everytime shes mentioned, im gonna MIFF
fathom peak
MIFF?
what does taht mean?
opaque sigil
if Hornet starts getting overly dramatic titles from Pharloom like Pale Princess...
Yeah that would be a bit much
cerulean sable
i dunno i remember seeing it as a synonym for being pissed off
fathom peak
ah okay
cerulean sable
from an old ass Jerma TF2 video
opaque sigil
"miffed" is like "irate"