#sk-discussion
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what if i want one giant saw instead of 3 
That like a shriek I guess, so not all that strong
found the nail user
Shriek is a shit ton of damage and doing that much without placing yourself in harms way like shriek does would be absurdly broken
Still, even if you can only do it a few times 
But the saw seems harder to hit than a full shriek, I guess it depends on the ennemi
I doubt an individual saw would do as much as a shriek
Hornets tech guy is actually legeater, so she knows how to build replacements out of corpses

tahts why i said a stationary enemie, im thinking it works kinda like a cyclone slash but ofc with less dmg but you dont have to stand near the boss
also stagger breakers 
also since it falls it wont work mid air unless maybe you drop it i onto them but it seems like it would roll any only do one or two tick of dmg to the boss then
Stagger breaking isn't a thing in SS
You can hit staggered bosses without reactivating them
i sure hope not
well it seems for Moss mother and lace
well from the lace boss fight in the demo
lace was staggered, then got hit once or twice?
then after the third hit it woke up again
welp time for me to go
cya
bye
That could also just have been timing roughly coinciding with the attack
Lace recovered a few moments after it, not immediately after the hit
oh ok
well thats what it looked like to me when i was watching the demo
so there was a chance im wrong
Lol imagine using abyss shriek
eeeh actually maybe it is 3 hits, there are two times when she recovers pretty quickly after the third one (or it's just enough time for only three hits)
well i guesss we'll have to see it for ourselves when ss is released
there's only so much staring at demo footage we can do 
MM's the same, after 3 hits she recovered
I'm assumed the Pimpillo is probably gonna be mainly a group clear
ok it's probably a 3 hit thing, or else there's just a real weird coincidence there 
And Using it against fast enemies is not a good move because of the arc
so bosses get out of stagger either
-after 3 hits
-or after a specified time?
Or proximal enemies due to the presumed self-damage
Yeah the staggers can probably time out too
Ohhhh i just understand, my comment got misunderstood I didn’t say that abyss shriek isn’t strong, just that the saw isn’t in comparison
ok
Well it said "friends" and foe alike, so I dunno if it harms Hornet but it could harm an ally (probably stuff like Garmond whenever we go on quests with him)
I doubt that'll be a concern
Hornet's ill-equipped to defend her companions, making the player do that would be a weird move
mm, i think it'll harm hornet (in my perspective at least)
explosion's an explosion
"accidentally" killing all my allies
It'll probably harm Hornet, yeah. I doubt it'll have any tangible effect on NPC companions
I'm just going off the description. It could be an early descriptor and probably will change so
thats true
So the friends part could easily be removed if TC didn't want to apply you can harm NPCs
or what if... 
killing npcs is something all games need
I can't wait for players to yeet a Pimpillo at Sherma for the lols
But that would mean that you can’t be constantly destroying the background objects cus you could hit an npc
reasonable trade off
Well this would only being a thing in specific quests I feel, I don't think they'll let you attack npcs for the lols all the time
Wait
That would mean you would have a way to kill zote with your own hand
I know but like a potential zote equivalent
i think it may just be a coincidence, the staggers all seem to last the same amount of time
Could be just enough time for 3 hits
But then Katie never missing one is a bit surprising, even if she is practiced with the game
imo the demo footage points more strongly to it being based on hit count
Let me look for other footage rq
i beat nkg with nailarts first. spells are still better
ok it isn't 3 hits
16 minutes of gameplay in a midgame area of Hollow Knight: Silksong with some upgrades unlocked, played on Nintendo Switch on the showfloor of E3 2019.
It's either:
Time passed
First hit after some amount of time has passed
idfk
ok it's time
https://youtu.be/acBIdFBJoIU?t=646
Here it ends without Lace having immediately been hit
16 minutes of gameplay in a midgame area of Hollow Knight: Silksong with some upgrades unlocked, played on Nintendo Switch on the showfloor of E3 2019.
they all just seem to be about 2 seconds
but it may just be that you can't make 4 hits quicker than 2 seconds
ig Katie's just damn good at hitting bosses optimally when staggered
yup
<@&283547423706447872>
ey thx
Heck pff
Stupid nitro bots
Idk if swearing is allowed XD
the image isn't even high resolution, did they even try?
I wonder what discord might be able to do to address those bots it seems a bit hard
Blacklist links but they'll just keep making new ones
Plus the accounts aren't bot accounts
At least not generally
Really ? There are like hacked one ?
yes
Most are afaik, that's how it spreads
yeah
Is there 2fA on discord ?
first few are bots, people click, get hacked, spread links further, ad infinitum
yep
Yeah but not everybody uses it
do I have it
Did you enable it
you can check
Turns out I didn’t, I guess that’s done now
you could also not be a dumbass and sign into a scam and give it your info 
Most of those links steal your login token directly meaning that 2FA doesn't protect you from them.
sometimes they use the mobile sign in thing and that bypasses everything
most of these ask you to litterally sign in, thats not a token thats just natural selection
How do you know, powdered 
atleast 3
yet
It's probably because the dangerous ones are blacklisted on this server.
a modification?
I see.
hacked accounts are usually inactive about a week b4 posting too
ig that makes sense, spread out the postings of links
If you just made the acct post instantly a lot of places would get 2 in a row, not the best way to catch people
also hacks bc servers can filter out baby accounts
hey

hello
next you'll say "was there any news"?
yes
well then
?sspsa
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 

go back into your cryopod cartman the wii isnt out yet
I love this meme
rly? i don't think any link could access your token just from clicking it
Pretty sure they could
its probably for the best you dont find out the hard way
Experimentation is the best way to determine if something shitty will happen 


autocorrect wants you to change your name
No I meant for other people. Do as I say, not as I do
Joker no
joker yes
joker yes
c'mon
its just one letter 
lmao

New server arc: Joker snaps
goodbye tammo
hello tammy

wait that's new
Hello Tammy 
what the fuck
mod abuse

what if hornet blast guys with a shotgun upon using the needle grappling like doom eternal
that would suck though, i fucking hate doom
sounds legit
Shrapnel Crossbow
If I ever snapped, half the server would be gone
Which doom do you hate
All of them
The ones where you kill demons in them
There is a correct answer
nuclear winter
doom mroe like deez
Who is mroe

the famous actress Marilyn Mroe
sounds like a Harry Potter spell

Or else we’ll start the “Wombat snaps” server arc
damn this ss discussion looks epic 
can you two snap at the same time?
ooh can we have an arc for each mod snapping 
hey that's not fair i didn't get one >:(
And you never will
i know that
two mods snapping?
idk
think this server'd die
eh
Depends on which two mods, probably
Both lemons
the lemons already admitted that they like
more than
, you can't help them
i already had mine 

unique when's your arc
Unique on smack cam
was it the haiku?
or smthng else
Do I just smack my camera or
I read that wrong and was about to go wtf?
No you get smacked live on camera

Watch out
if that haiku counts as snapping ive been off the rails for a year
Imagine having a snapped arc
actually, tacos still having theirs
I think he is in a perpetual state of snapping
Hornet should have a tool that lets her snap
Snapped sounds like a dumb reality cooking show where you make snacks
Hornet yass voiceline
Either that or it’s a wushi fingerhold situation
Only when she has all 6 infinity tools though
Hollow war: infinity knight
wait is the release date february 2022 confirmed?
No
pain
Are you sure?
the dreamers told you
Silkiro is a better pun
Hollow Knight 2: Scholar of The Pale King
Hollow Knight Episode 5: The dreamers strike back
Hollownado
It's sharknado but in the HK universe
That's just sharknado with a boston accent
Crown of the Pale King is literally Crown of the Ivory King
pale and ivory are synonyms in a way
What are you talking about

DN
Deez nuts
gotteem

get fucked
Yeah it is
my ass
sonia 1
ttacco 0
rigged
better luck next time crunchy
says the doom boomer
crunchy's a new one
I assume because of the taco shell for a head
That begs the question, is TTacco a hard shell taco or a soft shell taco
he's a hard shell on the outside, but hes a big softie on the inside
TTacco is tsundere confirmed
HardShell is my codename but i hate hard shell tbh
what the hell
I agree
A taco to contain the infection
Everyone knows nothing can escape from inside a taco
This taco head knight is a clever design
whenever i tiltt the lettuce falls of
and it makes me sad and reminds me of [REDACTED]
goddamn rper
Yeah you play quake instead
anyway roll d20 to hit wombat with fireball of immolation
Wtf
19 son, get roasted
So toxic
yeah the optimal games
you cannot set me ablaze, im already on fire
unlike you guys, who play suboptimal games like doom and rainworld
an ally is on fire!
Hes spitting hot fire
why optimize your life when you can optimize your video games
Do you have black beans in you?
From a glance, it appears no
Stalking me wtf
what
Listen i just gotta 100% it then ill play deaths gambit
Looks like about 90% lettuce
how is it stalking if I microchip all server members
🥸
yeah st alking you mean "SONIA IS NOW PLAYING: RAIN WORLD" on my steam overlay every 10 minutes
It's not stalking if they don't know you're doing it
For legal purposes this is a joke
Listen you chose to be friends with me you gotta assume the consequences
do i get consequences too
im sorry i ccant hear you cuz im too busy popping BIOSHOCK 2 REMASTERED because the fucking game keeps crashing every 10 minutes
And it's untrue i only opened the game like 3 time today 😤
liees
Dont i have you added on steam wombat

Dw ill open it a 4th time ttacco
hbaseed
guys how do I give away nitro without sounding really suspicious 
just dm me real quick

you're irrelevant
it's for first time subscribers
oh then nevermind lol
I would've taken it if it wasn't
Farewell pyro
what

I assume death means little to a necromancer
LOOOOOL P6ro sent to the shadow realm
gone
P*ro 🤮
They live in our memories
sometimes it's as if I can still hear him
hey i'm still here
it's like it was just yesterday
no one trusting pyro
ill find someone wholl claim that lonely 3 months nitro
First you have to make sure everyone knows you aren’t a bot
but how it sounds like you're trying to scam people
how do I do that? solve a captcha?
Say something like “not a bot: [link]”
12 - 7 = ?
what a great idea
Everyone will trust you
pyro say something you would say
what were my catchphrases again
Ligma balls
bazinga
bazinga
You’re mother
you just got pyro'd

I'm a mother? 
These nuts
This nut
That nut
Our nuts
we are all one nut
I wish discord did something about the scam links
I hope they try to fix it
inb4 google buys discord and the entire site gets plastered with targeted advertising
The issue is this is not actually communicated; and that this also doesn’t help for non-nitro scams
but it's just a link embed
I mean the unique embed for real nitro links
Non-nitro scam links get to keep a shady custom embed. Like a CS knife skin or whatever
Oh i see what you mean
Yeah this
I mean people will click the links regardless anyway
yeah that's the problem
Good thing I don't need to know this hehe 
here we've gotten good at @ mods ing but that's not the case everywhere, especially in servers with less active mods
“@ everyone”
“Here’s a gift bro”
Nobody on earth is friends with everyone.
Oh yeah we ban like 3-5 scammers a day
get snailed, lol
It's getting intense
🐌
oh yeah that's my catchphrase
I don't know when it will stop
Worried about the incoming spike post SS release
Hah “incoming”
Yeah simo and benji have their work cut out for them
The admins will deal with it ill be playing ss 
Big mega discords usually need mobile confirmation to join for a variety of reasons
Yeah that’s exactly the issue lmfao. The moderator base is gonna be down for the count on release day
Bold to assume the Nitro scammers won't be buried by people hyped about the game
But the moderators can worry about that. I’ll be playing SS 
Bold of you to assume there will even be a release day.
Guys I made the joke congratulate me
People hyped for SS will attempt to avoid spoilers for SS
Some dicks are gonna use the opportunity to post random rule breaking stuff but honestly i think people are just gonna spam for like 2 days min
The server will have increased activity for months tho
Like for sure people are gonna post spoilers in random channels to ruin peoples experience
This has been the case since the Harry Potter books until avengers endgame.
People post these images with major plot spoilers and the like
I mean real spam
I mean unless the Mod count doubles it's gonna be hectic for a bit
That too; but that’s always moderatable
can't you just close the server for like 2 days
A ton of spam
slowmode will def be increased
Its gonna be hectic regardless
Just lock the server for a week
Remember when i got pinged like 60 times because ss wasnt in a direct
closing the discord on release seems like a very bad idea and a last ditch effort
ah yes the nuke of teh 15th
ah yes, december 15th
Even with a 6 min slowmode people were crazy
true
There were too many people
say the line pyro
get snailed lol
Pyro are you friends with the eternal snail
the snail gives me power
OH NO

Honestly i think little can be done during the first week of the release im terms of minimising spam
It's just gonna bad and nothing can help that other than locking channels down entirely
Oh yea btw
The community will most likely get worse after the release
Bigger so younger
You know
Ewwwww
If you don't want to be spoiled in the first minutes, I would mute the server before release
It always happens
SS probably won't have it as bad as other games since it's 1) decently difficult and 2) lore heavy but it'll still happen to some extent
Its on a nintendo console so eh
nice, can't wait to get younger
True af
I'm probably going to be waiting until release, I'm gonna watch the release trailer regardless and it kinda fun to see the chaos
I mean i joined when i was 15 its hypocritical to say that but the server really has changed in the span of a year
You joined basically a year before me
ill celebrate release date trailer
It's been nearly 2 years for you
Like its good this channel is dead so its not annoying unless something big happens
Youre basically off topic 3 at this point anyway
Yeah more or less
its a unique channel i'll give it that
I joined roughly a year and a half ago
kinda of like a waiting line where everyone camps out overnight
except we've been camping out for a few years
I’ve seen some stuff happen here
I kinda like it that way, I know all of the regulars here and people are pretty willing to talk about anything, silksong or not
Im 17 now
Plus, silksong is cool
Soon not child
child mod?
The nuke of 15th, New York Accent Grindle, random physics jokes, and a whole bunch of Silknevers
I don't remember new york accent grindle
I do
I do
also broke the website twice
wow ss disc lore
When did that happen? I joined in Dec 2020
its discord
That's still not an excuse
synonymous
wait 'til people find out what my name is Sonia 👹
Wombat's name is also sonia
Yoooo
on release i will disappear from this server and its other baby servers
good call
Same
Expect me back in 4-6 business weeks
I’ve always thought of making an alt with a female pfp and name
legit all it took back in my days of playing minecraft online multiplayer was the addition of "cat" at the end of my name and people thought i was a girl
Wombatcat
Werent people weird with you too joker
dunno what people think my gender is but i am guessing male
Very strange community
your gender is lurien fan
Someone thought I was female for like 3 months
I think it was sword nail
et cetera
Guys guys. Idea
ah yes queen of jokers
LOL what
yeah ik
I guess I give off female energy?
Nah with a basic chick name. Like anne or lauren or some shit
only for trolling purposes
Damn sorry to all the annes and laurens youre basic
My Mii on my switch is a girl lmao
All the bots on youtube with names like [Girl's name] - F*ck mE

Damn joker is saying that we're tradwives how sexist 😔
yeah because that would imply you were a tank engine
true
Just take a male name and add “line” onto the end.
Matt -> Madeline
Jack -> Jacquline
Carl -> Caroline
They've gotten smarter, now they copy and paste other comments to reply to you're own so it seems less bot-like
Wait not true as in i’m sexist
matteline
carline
True as in thomas the tank engine
Joker confirmed misogynist
Too late joker

Joker is cancelled, 2021 colorized
lioneline
I saw a guy who's name was pheonix
Finally
Yes, that is misspelled
thats why my name is just the four letter code to my safe
thomasline
Now you’ve got it
New game: we each change our nicks to the last 4 digits of our social security number
No
already did
Fun game guys
ok
new game: we each change our nicks to the last 4 digits of Necromancer's social security number
Yes
guess what it is
brb googling what a social security number is
42069
I chose my name when 11 years old as the first thing that came into my mind (we had a lesson about Archimedes in math class that day) and never changed it since
if youre out and about in society you present your social security numbers to people so you are allowed to interact with them socially
6816
ikr, imagine not having national insurance numbers
its for security of course
the thing is i am, shockingly, not in the US
New game: give me your credit card number and expiration date in dms or youre banned
nooooo, really?
what a surprise
Imagine being in the US
however i am the unfunniest person in the universe
the number one rated salesman
People who make Silksong where jokes
Sure; just lemme ask your mother. (I have been stealing her identity for fiscal gain)
GUYS SILKSONG WHEN
You know, the milky way is the best solar system in the whole world
That would be gusty garden galaxy; stupid
please a crumb of news!!! we have had none!!!!!!!! wait what do they say now i'm not up to date
they say feburary first 2022
ah right
They say "Any news?"
come on guys, the game must be near, it's been one year without news!
and then I say ?sspsa
you’re baby, you don’t even know how to use credit cards
it's been a year, a little fan interaction wouldn't hurt, team cherry
cant wait till 2022, when we can say we havent had news in 2 years
guys guys i think silksong anniversary of rttrailer anniversary in uhh february silksong release feb 14 yes confirmed real by uhhh game dev i have screenshot
Oh yeah you want to test that theory joker? Send me your credit card
mail it to sonia
Don’t have one
please believe me guys i have uh i have i am the friend of.. team cherry

My uncle is team cherry guys
aw heck
People who spam "where's silksong" in youtube chat during the event and then 🤡
in here afterwards
i remember milkbong
wdym remember
as in the time someone sent that in chat but it doesn't matter anyways
Does leth still talk here btw
i have no clue
good news to know he's alive
leth made it home safe
Apparently he was on a flight
clearly, the only reasonable explanation is he is heavily playtesting silksong 
What's with people and assuming other people are dead 
he has been freed from the collective hallucination. there is a way.
TAMMY 




everyone we need to break out of here
I'm gonna leave it for a day out of respect for Joker/Unique's joke
Thou hath succumbed
idk who changed my nickname actually
I would guess joker
Probably
they can do that??
Yeah they're mods
I mean I can personally attest to their ability to do so 
mod abuse smh blocked reported and told my mom
It wasn’t even me
Unique???
I saw the meme in chat and saw your name was changed and I was like “funi”
Probably unique then
That feels more like a thing you would do than a thing unique would do
But who knows, people surprise you sometimes
Man, I remember the riddles.
Those were the good days.
you rember?
I forgor
I witnessed all of them. Seth's took the longest iirc.
I was in the server but not following silksong at all
I had just finished HK for the first time and I think I was still processing it
I'm glad I was here for EDGE tho
It's sad that some people have been here for nearly a year and have never experienced news in real time
The riddles were fantastic to be a part of
I was here for Zal's riddle 
so was i
👍
I do wonder where the light of the moss grotto comes from
The same place the light in Kingdom's edge comes from
the force
Yeah a lot of the time light just kinda is there, with no clear source
omg uys light it must be radience
But there will probably be some lore reason as to why
Same place the music comes from
mr mushroom
I mean historically there often hasn't been 
Well, I guess you are right, No game is without lore flaws
unless they are hiding something or something
Just watching silksong trailer+demo in 1080p, It's so much better than 480
You don't say 
Just because it doesn’t explain everything doesn’t mean that’s a flaw
Do you want to play a game in complete darkness?
for your information I suck at lore
Suspension of disbelief isn't a flaw it's a necessity for fantasy but like who cares
That might actually be a good idea for a game
No
No
There is a game like that. The Vale or something, it's called
You play as a blind person
noooo

deepnest no lantern
Honestly there’s probably an HK mod where every room is dark
Maybe but HK also has a light source on TK
Tk?
The Knight
Oh
I wonder if they will ever reach 200+ enemies?
I wouldn't be surprised
I wouldn’t be surprised if they already have
165 like, what, 22 months ago?
Fuck it’s been that long
Their having made 35 enemies in that amount of time is very possible
There is a chance they "finished" the base of all areas and are working on the decorations and secrets, But I think you guys are right.
and plus it's pretty much confirmed silksong will be a decent amount bigger than hollow knight
In terms of pure physical map size yes, it's explicitly confirmed
and also, we have already seen around 60+ unique enemies
idk about that number but either way we know there to be at least 165
There's a document somewhere with all the unique names of the enemies
Because someone came up with dave and we have no idea how to show restraint with a joke
ok like 50 enemies and 15/9 bosses depending on if you count the citadel suite and steel/void guys
we have seen a pretty vast amount of enemies and bosses
steel/void guys are def enemies
citadel suite is imo also def enemies but I've seen people say both
sharpe is definitely a boss

this is gonna be hornet is void all over again
Gonna be? It already is
"sharpe is enemy"
we've had this argument several times before
currently theres no good reason for sharpe not to be void
Nor for him to be void
so really it can go either way
Likewise there's no good reason for him to be void
But like one of those is the default assumption and one definitely isn't
although I'm hoping on void since it'd be cooler
void > not void
not void > void
The Knight is Void 
Guys they did it
GMTK Metroid dread video just dropped, gotta go now ( kidding )
well yeah it's not a 50/50 shot but theres decent chance he will be based on certain choices about his design
Like 
take a guess tammy
The strongest evidence is that his face isn't shaded in the art
That's literally the only vaguely reasonable thing
~~or rather that it is shaded
~~
The attack animation is beyond unpersuasive, it's just a black whiplike thing moving around quickly
All black, quick-moving, whiplike things look the same
yeah sure 
Lori, I'm not gonna lie your pfp looks like a ghost with a mustache
haha
At least we know for certain Lace isn’t void
Can we make a betting poll/candy counting jar for how many enemies we think will be in SS? I want to guess 267
But like do we 
Lace is void like sharpe but covered in silk instead of steel 

She doesn't have a shaded face either, she could be void just as much as sharpe if we wanna pretend that's a reasonable possibility 
lace doesn't have a mostly black body with an unshaded face
Wait are people unironically theorizing that this guy
is void? Seriously?
that's what makes sharpe seem like he could be void
So
The only thing supporting Sharpe being Void is like three inches of his nose not being shaded, and those three inches could be in his own shadow, or made of the same stuff (flesh) as Lace's face
Well actually most of the reason people think Sharpe is void (aside from that attack) is a possible connection to Jinn, and her masters (who are presumed to be connected to void)
his nose is a void tendril
Except there's no real reason to connect them 
literally like one of the void tendrils from PV
Mainly because of Steel in the name
So do pale lurker's arms, is she void
Funny how fast black whiplike things tend to all look a bit alike ain't it
truetrue
are jiji and jinn void?
No
No
ok
only Hornet is
No but Jinn’s masters are “most likely” connected to void
And if they were associated with void Jiji probably wouldn't be so goddamn confused about what a shade is
I’m joking please don’t kill me
no mercy
so it's canon when it agrees with your argument? 
When was Jiji confused about a shade?
Not really but if the idea was that she was aware of void then the way TC framed that interaction is incoherent
“This It... A rare It. Has not seen many, so vulnerable, but triumphant. Makes Jinn feel a thing... surprise?
Jinn misjudged... The It is not inferior. Perhaps... different? Different to Jinn. More complete? Different... like masters?” Dialogue when you show Jinn the Void Heart
Yeah that doesn't mean shit
Bardoon compares TK to the pale king but PK isn't made of Void
But it is PKs child
Note that that dialogue doesn't say that the masters are like the Knight, only that they and it are different from Jinn
I mean that’s not the same argument
ok new theory jinn's masters are pk
Yeah so is Hornet and she’s not void
I meant that by comparing characters they imply a similarity or connection between them. Jinn refers to the Knight as if they were similar.
Bardoon comparing TK and PK is comparing father to child, Void has nothing to do with that
Similar in that they are different from the likes of Jinn, far too vague a comparison to infer relation to void 
Bardoon doesn't know TK is PK's child
Yeah but it's like a narrative thing. A hint.
It could just as easily (and more reasonably) be taken to mean that the masters are a Higher Being
I think this is the first time (to my knowledge) that ss-discussion has gone so far into lore territory
Never mind there are all the endings talks
Or some sort of unified collective
And if the masters are/use void they're no longer in charge any more
Plus Sharpe's male, and his means of attack is said to be a "proboscis" which is a biological structure
(Void doesn't have those)
truetrue
To be fair we don't really know
No, but that's a feeble defense
If the case for Sharpe being Void comes down to "well we don't technically know he's not Void" then, well, maybe it isn't particularly strong
I’d imagine the backer who made Sharpe would probably know for sure
Although he's definitely wildly inconsistent with all known properties of Void
Well, I don't think it's fair to definitively say Sharpe isn't void.
He's probably not void
It’s just a wait and see honestly
the real answer is they want us to think he is but he actually isn't and it'll be intended as a major plot twist but everyone will be expecting it already
They've been weirdly coy about him yeah 
tbf, most characters they've been coy about in SS
Probably because they’d knew we’d speculate about him
churchkeeper could turn out to be evil to some degree
I’m guessing he’s gonna be a major foe (since he was intended for the original game) so they probably want to make us focus of him a lot more than usual
i can't wait for the boss fights
but am nervous SoB/ML won't be topped
PV I think they can recapture the essence of though
I'm wondering how we're supposed to dodge some attacks 
sharpes nose swing, judge judy's fire circles
ye the shade cloak upgrade was so nice gameplay wise :p
idk why they would
I mean Lace is a fast fight and it’s probably early so that’s any indicator of the boss this time around
honhonhon french accent
I could take or leave an iframe dash 
seriously how big is sharpe wouldn't his nose swing fill most arenas
He doesn't seem very big
I was imagining hornet sized
i'd love it if you can deflect his nose attack/parry it, or chop off his nose by pogoing on it
yesss tail cuts
ye bring em back
Especially if this is to scale
Other boss attack include giant coral being spread around the area (the coral forest boss) and the arena being destructable (robot boss).
huh so even smaller than hornet sized?
About the same
So yeah I think they can one up the HK bosses for the most part
Maybe a bit smaller. He is an assassin after all
I wonder if we might get a few bosses smaller than hornet, in hk the only boss which is smaller than the knight would be sly
Lace and Sharpe are smaller than her
same height actually
Or Sharpe seems to be smaller
Lace isn’t smaller by that much
Trobbio and Seth are also pretty small but not smaller than Hornet
boss talk has my excitement reignited
You are probably counting the nail in that measurement
Graig, break the NDA, leak us some fights, for the people
I'm counting his antenna
(jk) ||unless you would, then not jk-ing||
Oh
Graig I'm begging and pleading it's been 50 years give us a crumb of silksong
Imagine he just posts a pixel of a boss
The mods would probably have to put a 10 min slow mod due to all the hype off such an announcement
People brushed off Edge within a few days, you overestimate people's actual appetite for anything aside from a release date
just a crumb please graig I'm dying without silksong
my flesh is turning to ash, graig
edge we still come back to tho for sustenance
like the moss-donkeys
I really do wonder now if hornet will have some sort of dodge
she has i frames from her parry, and has a dash, but will there be a movement technique with i frames
Dash and grapple both work as dodges
does the dash have i frames though
i love the idea of using the grappling hook in boss fights
No but grapple will probably have a few at the end, like pogo (though not many)
Well she has a counter
ye i mentioned that
And if combat isn't designed around an iframe dash it'll work well without one
Yeah me dumb
na all g, reading does be-eth a virtue tho 
really looks like it will have one with judge judy's flame circles
iframe dash would suck for that attack
You'd need it several times immediately consecutively
If Rad walls came a few frames apart shade cloak wouldn't work would it
well maybe it's like pufferfish grimm and it's a jumping simulator
outer wilds is on sale, i should probably get it at this point
get it now before it's too late
K
who?
This guy just killed the chat amazing
You know you can just ignore them 
yes I know
Anyways, I don't take the last judge screenshot as evidence hornet will have a similar ability to shade cloak because that attack wasn't made for an ability like shade cloak
Using shade cloak to avoid these would suck and the spacing would be a nightmare
Assuming you even have enough time for it to cool down between instances of fire
well how fast is the attack even
all the more reason playing as the knight would suck for ss
All the lore discussions above made me think did TC actually thought of the story for silksong or just went with the flow like in hk ?
Even if it's slow, the spacing would be absurd for an ability like shade cloak
Bit of both
i know
And realistically we don't even know that those move, it could be an elaborate floor spike attack
oh yeah true
ooh
Although ig the one on the far right would be weird
ok
This also kinda hints at the possibility of gaps imo
yeah, maybe you could get through that
Well I assume it would be wider if you could
going through that would not be fun gameplay
with the equivalent of dash, i forgor i haven't touched silksong gameplay vids in a while
i kinda see it as maybe an attack you're supposed to be hit by? like if you don't have X masks going into it, you die kinda thing (tis the last judge after all)
@brisk bolt stop interrupting discussion with your shit posting
I don’t think they would telegraph attacks that way, it’s way to small
pls B nicer
and that's fun gameplay?
There's also the weird coloration in between the leftmost and second to leftmost pillars
I don't like that idea that means hitless isn't possible
ye like, idk what we're gonna get
just so you know
u be nicer too or be banned staba
There's a lot of stuff going on there
well if she's so ugly then why are there portraits of her anyways
They left
amazing
For all we know that attack might even be a punish for missing something prior in the fight so it’s really pure speculation
that was a truly enlightening conversation
Yeah, maybe the idea is that Hornet's supposed to go hide in the middle and there's enough of a telegraph
that would mean you could get hit four times for messing that up
Anyways, my point is that there's not really a reason to equate that to, say, Rad or TL's walls and infer the existence of an identical ability to shade cloak from it
looks like Graig has more of a say in the difficulty this time 
If Lace can do two masks why can't LJ do four 
I would expect fire to do double damage so eight

Am I the only one who thinks that this fire sprite is a bit odd
wait what's that tool she's got there
I mean I dunno how many masks Hornet will have in total but doing four masks of damage in a non dream fight sounds like bullshit
I think it was the drill plunge thing
Looks like a drill kinda
fire hydrant tool
you think there will be dream fights?
drill attack that Hornet can perform with her body, where “she becomes something like a spinning top, and descends towards enemies,” Gibson says
I can't see that being the best choice for Judge Judy but whatevs
The issue is that the waves come from his swiping his arms and they seem to go in a full semicircle around him, so you would get hit if you went to him too
If like the third boss in the game can do two-mask damage then later game bosses doing 4 is entirely conceivable
it's possible the flames dont move outward from Last Judge and instead form upwards starting from the ground at certain intervals
ok
I mean we don't know that it does that movement 
That was a really quick snail wow
wait who said what I said first?
I did
.
yeah i see now
it just seemed like everyone was still questioning if it was a moving attack
You can see the swipe trail leading to it's arm, which imo suggests that he sorta flings his arm up from the ground which makes the flame. Actually looking at it, maybe his other side doesn't get the flame and he sorta just makes a very wide arc that goes a little ways behind him. Would make more sense with the movement than pulsing out fire waves from a swing.
because to me it makes a lot more sense if it wasnt from what we know
Yeah but gamers will do them hitless so does it really matters 
I mean this would be weird if it was a stationary attack but otherwise yes
Yeah thats why imo they move, and just fizzle out at the walls
And them being stationary also doesnt really make sense since they have that arc, makes much more sense for them to move
Oh no, I just was saying it would be stupid to take 4 hit of damage on a fight where you can lose rosaries.
Would it really 
Especially if the difficulty is supposed to be similar to Hollow Knight
Hornet has a broken heal ability
Dealing four masks isn't so big a deal when Hornet can heal 3 in the blink of an eye
I don't expect dream fights but probably revenge fights, like "Huh you beat me but I'm not dead yet"
And outside godhome there’s only one boss that deals 4 masks of damage. Grey Prince Zote, which is a dream fight where you can’t lose geo
I imagine Hornet could also use tools which grant invincibility or something
The main thing preventing healing during fights in HK isn't low Soul, it's not having the time to use it. Hornet doesn't have that restriction
Well Hornet’s heal can not only be interrupted causing it to fail, but also has leas i frames
Her heal is fast enough that doing it without being interrupted is relatively easy
theres one confirmed return fight
TK had to sit there for an hour and a half
Yeah Lace 2, (the fight within the flowers)
Considering Hornet was fought twice in the original game it’s a neat parallel
Sharpe might have multiple fights
We don’t know that for certain though
That's what "might" means
no it means strength, smh
One Backer boss in particular has become a major rival character to Hornet, a mysterious Assassin Bug submitted by Jaspal Boodram.
Considering that he's presented as a rival he could be fought multiple times
It would be nice to have more harder rematch fights
Even thought facing Hornet 2 originally made me want to die
that said it would be a little unfair for a backer to get 2 bossfights
Well how much did the backer contribute
same as the other boss tier backers
you fight him alone, you beat his ass, he comes back with his buddies
I mean Sharpe’s fight initially probably would have been more distinct then the other backers already considering he was meant to be fought against both The Knight and Hornet
I mean Carmelita gets a whole subarea
SAME it took me like an hour to beat her 
So I wouldn’t be surprised if Sharpe got special treatment
wait he was?
Plus since he wasn't in HK I wouldn't be surprised if TC thought it was fair to give him a little something extra
Presumably. Some unnamed assassins were, Sharpe is inferred to be one of them
well rematch often depends on how strong your gear is, at this point. I remember beating her easily because I grabbed a lot of upgrades before (not even intentionnaly, I've just done the fight late enough). I suppose Silksong will follow this idea too, so bosses will be more or less difficult depending of your playthrough
I had a coiled nail by this point and I still struggled
they could probably justify it by giving other bosses more interaction in other ways, like dialogue
the ones in hk won't get anything extra
I had like 8 Masks and every spells upgrades, almost every notches too. I agree this fight is tough regardless
oh yh
Like I said TC could give the backer bosses in SS something extra as compensation for not including them in HK and making the backers wait a few extra years 
There's definitely reason to
yh that would make sense
Well the backers for ss had to wait longer
no they didn't
To see their bosses realized? How have they not?

kickstarter is long over
Or he could be
2
please don't
I want zote as a boss I think this would be funny and original
From an objective standpoint idk if one could consider Zote a rival to the Knight
one of the best bosses is zote
Zote is a boss and then Bretta's delusion of him is also a boss
I know I was also joking, I was imagining someone backing to make their own boss
but it already exists
nevermind
he's more of a boss fakeout
One of the few bosses who didn't made it to godhome too
no he's there
Eternal ordeal 
Oh I forgot
Or should I say eternal ordeal
etc
any theories?
Plenty
Time to find that message and make it 58 
I wish silksong has this kind of hidden breakable walls such as eternal ordeal access so people will spend dozens of hours hitting everything 
it's been sitting at 56 for a while cos someone unreacted

well now you have
You gave me the opportunity
Still 58
since I got the screenshot already it really doesn't matter
Well it wasn't a few seconds ago and I'm done checking so deal with it 
And the message having 58 reacts is still the message having 57 reacts
If I have three pencils I therefore necessarily have two
Mwahahaha
man the good old days
Hardly good

But that was the mini-nuke not the full one
I mean it was good when all the fun people were active
Ss-discussion will revive on 2024 for the release date
asking for the release date, you mean
true
I just remember last year, every 2 monthes or so there was always something for people to admit silksong's releasing soon 
that kinda just lasted up till e3, its been more quiet recently, but probably will pick up again when tga comes
someday well be playing silksong, and the days of uncertainty will be behind us and forgotten
I’m not sure why people think SS will be at the TGA
they just pretend to think it'll be at tga
And then people see them pretending and think it’s likely 
Ah the folly of assumptions
One man thinks an event is likely and suddenly loads of people believe the same thing
Too early mate
You jest but this effect literally led to people expecting shit on a date somebody dreamed
haha
You have to take into account that you're wasting a whole month of pointless false excitement
only works if the event is sooner than the next closest real event
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hey
What games have you played recently that where fun?
Hollow Knight
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