#sk-discussion

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cobalt radish
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i'd guess

stiff burrow
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Why Hornet is captured is probably one of the mysteries to solve when actually playing the game

nimble pebble
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Most likely

raven maple
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silksong could be years in the past or future

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in the timeline

cobalt radish
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timeline making is not gonna be fun

nimble pebble
potent plover
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when silksong comes out its soundtrack will probably be my 3rd favourite of all time

cobalt radish
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the million dollar question is: will it have multiple ends?

formal karma
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most likely

marsh ibex
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Timeline making is literally never fun

nimble pebble
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I can't wait for coral warlord's theme

marsh ibex
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because they don’t want to give us dates

stiff burrow
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I'd be surprised if there is only one ending

narrow vault
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The real question is if you can speed up credits

potent plover
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one ending = no pantheon grinding?

nimble pebble
cobalt radish
formal karma
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the real question is, why are you seeing the credits often enough to require speeding them up?

narrow vault
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Don't ask

cobalt radish
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boredom?

nimble pebble
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I played HK a lot so I've seen them quite a bit

stiff burrow
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The real question if if those endings will be like HK where it's the same end fight with different choices or more diverse endings
Maybe one is leaving Pharloom without ever finding out what is going on

narrow vault
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I gotta go bye

formal karma
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that's be interesting rayman

cobalt radish
raven maple
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I never 'completed the game' for a while and never unlocked steel soul until A) after I'd done 100% thinking that would work and B) i looked it up and realised i had to go through the full credits

nimble radish
nimble pebble
cobalt radish
stiff burrow
formal karma
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if you get to the top of the citadel without doing certain other things, you just kill the bug pope and leave without knowing why or what that accomplishes

raven maple
cobalt radish
raven maple
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1% speedrun category

stiff burrow
formal karma
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oh, man, i'll be around for the development of speedrunning

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not that I WILL speedrun, but i can see what goes down

raven maple
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U left pharloom just before defeating the final boss, would probably be the most popular category

nimble pebble
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Fireborn speedruns the game in 3 minutes

stiff burrow
formal karma
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mhmmmm bug patchin

stiff burrow
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That happened once in HK I think.

nimble pebble
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Some skips will probably be left in because they enjoy watching the speedruns

formal karma
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i thought that I had softlocked because I didn't know about pogos...

raven maple
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usually tc are open to that sort of stuff, but not softlocks

nimble pebble
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If TC was so against skips they would have patched a lot of the by now

stiff burrow
raven maple
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yeah its more proper bugs and softlocks they fix

nimble pebble
stiff burrow
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Even though there is one in HK it's just incredibly unlikely to happen to someone
Getting wings before crystal dash and then kill monomon will leave you locked in her archives

raven maple
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how can u do that

formal karma
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interesting...

stiff burrow
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Do a shade skip to get wings before cdash
Then make a really hard jump to get to monomon and kill her
After that you will keep respawning next to her and you can't get back anymore cause there is no ground on the right side of the gap

nimble pebble
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And anyone who did it is a moron

cobalt radish
nimble pebble
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Because you'd purposely have to try for that

stiff burrow
nimble pebble
cobalt radish
nimble pebble
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Isn't the fastest Steel soul speedrun 51 minutes

cobalt radish
formal karma
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i mean its a tangent about softlocks in SS

cobalt radish
formal karma
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we were offering examples....

stiff burrow
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Yeah I only brought it up cause we were talking about skips in ss

raven maple
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getting wings itself is a whole ordeal without cdash

stiff burrow
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And how they would leave skips in unless they softlock you most likely

formal karma
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things like watcher knight's wings skip

stiff burrow
raven maple
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yeah

nimble pebble
formal karma
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yea but most people aren't going to know about it

stiff burrow
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Which skip do you mean here exactly?
Get up to the knights without wings?

formal karma
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and choosing to fight watcher knights without shade cloak is LOL

nimble pebble
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It's the skip for early watcher knights in a speedrun

raven maple
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yeah its pretty easy

formal karma
stiff burrow
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Yeah that one okay I got it thanks

formal karma
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so you don't need to go to ancient basin

raven maple
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though i cant do watcher knights without descending dark and shaman stone

languid linden
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I actually get Ddark in speedruns zote

raven maple
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same

stiff burrow
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That skip almost feels like it was intended for speedrunners or something

stiff burrow
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The placement is too perfect in the background

formal karma
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could be, yea

nimble pebble
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I've heard of some people who get shade cloak for speedruns, but those people are the ones that struggle with watcher knights

raven maple
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i actually got all nail arts in my 5 hour achievement speedrun as well. its only three ddark and one nail art to kill one (watcher knight) i believe

nimble radish
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shade cloak seems excessive

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you have to fight hornet 2 which is probably harder than the watcher knights zotewheeze

stiff burrow
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Ok I feel like we just broke the barrier from tangent to actually going off topic lol

raven maple
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i find hornet 2 way easier then watcher knights

nimble pebble
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ngl I've only done the speedrunner way watcher knights once, I usually take a 2 minute detour to get the ancient basin pale ore next to tram then warp back up so I have channelled nail for watcher knights best part their health only increases at coiled nail so it saves me some time in the long run

nimble pebble
nimble radish
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I feel like there will be a lot more interesting skips thanks to pogoable tools
although the loss of shade skips might make it even

stiff burrow
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Well, fine.
I am pretty interested in how many conveniently placed background items we'll have in ss to pogo off

nimble pebble
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Hornets pogo will make things...Interesting

raven maple
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will we even need a shade skip?

nimble pebble
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Probably not

stiff burrow
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It depends how time consuming it will be to get tools you can pogo off

raven maple
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Also does hornet loose her bone coin thingies when she dies?

stiff burrow
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She'll lose money but not the shards to make tools

nimble radish
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shade skip was pretty powerful in hk, since it's accessible from the very start

raven maple
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And yes, I know hornet has no shade

raven maple
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okay

nimble radish
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I don't remember, is her cocoon pogoable?

stiff burrow
vivid belfry
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nobody has ever tried

nimble pebble
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Not in the demo, but it could be in the main game

vivid belfry
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at least not in the footage I've seen

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it's a breakable object so at best it acts like most props and at worst it acts like hive background tiles

formal karma
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if cocoon is pogoable, there still remains the problem of its spawn location

nimble radish
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I see
well another thing to discover once the game comes out 😁

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yeah unlike the shade the cocoon won't move

formal karma
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big yikers for sure

raven maple
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also the description for this channel is In-depth discussion about the original Hollow Knight is to be moved to either #hk-discussion or #hk-lore, but we weren't going in depth that much so were fine

nimble pebble
stiff burrow
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I'm sure people will find plenty of weird skips even if the cocoon is not pogoable

raven maple
nimble radish
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the cocoon grows legs like fuckin grub mimic

raven maple
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do u think there will be a grub like system

stiff burrow
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There is a 0.001% chance the cocoon turns into Nosk nosklurk

nimble radish
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flees

vivid belfry
formal karma
raven maple
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okay

formal karma
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except... we also learned that its not just about finding a flea, there may be other ways to get them

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oof i got snailed, jokes on you duccs eat snails

nimble radish
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jokes on you I eat duccs

formal karma
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D:

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jokes on you, so do i

raven maple
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duccs dont eat turtles

nimble pebble
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Jokes on you I eat LGBT

formal karma
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got me there you flithy pickaxe

nimble radish
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ok now we're offtopic mylaU

nimble pebble
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Lettuce Guacamole Bacon Tomato

nimble radish
raven maple
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You dont?

nimble pebble
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It's a good sandwich

raven maple
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I usually add chicken and remove guacamole

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And now we need a cooking off topic

dreamy zenith
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Lettece Gerkin Bacon Tomato?

raven maple
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Lettuce Green Beans Tofu

dreamy zenith
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oh fuck

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lawful gargantuan based turtles

nimble radish
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tmnt got a sequel?

raven maple
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Leprechaun's Green's boot's Toes'

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Delicious sandwich

nimble radish
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ok lets stop before the mods ban us all

dreamy zenith
raven maple
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Yeah agreed

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Bell beast seems like cool new stag station gimmick

nimble pebble
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Yeah

nimble radish
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indeed

nimble pebble
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It's cool it's a boss before it's a fast travel

stiff burrow
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Wonder how they will deal with people finding "stations" before finding the bell beast

dreamy zenith
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Hmm.
Add horseflys as horses in silksong

raven maple
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Yeah i wish there was some more of that in hk other than hornet

stiff burrow
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Maybe the first encounter will be mandatory

raven maple
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Maybe bell beast will be a quest

nimble radish
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maybe the bossfight can occur at every station 🤔

raven maple
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to tame the once docile beast

stiff burrow
raven maple
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Why would bell beast wanna fight u like, 10 times

dreamy zenith
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Different ones?

raven maple
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or whatever number of stations theres gonna be

stiff burrow
nimble pebble
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It's going to be once and mostly likely in an early area an since we already know to explore everywhere we'll most likely findi t

raven maple
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ohh but it looked like there was a special room for the boss battle

stiff burrow
raven maple
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cool cya imma go off to bed

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ha first text of 12 of july

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third

vivid belfry
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I feel like they're going to force you into the beast fight(s)

stiff burrow
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Time zones. It is 1 am here hornetknife

raven maple
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yeah

vivid belfry
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having missable fast travel in such a massive game would be no bueno

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it's bad enough that people somehow skip nailsmith for most of the game zote

stiff burrow
raven maple
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but it would be cool to earn it instead of paying [said amount] of bone shards

stiff burrow
raven maple
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imagine if you had to find bell beast berries in order to ride on it

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for each ride

nimble pebble
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They're shell shards not bone shards

stiff burrow
raven maple
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yeah

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guess so anyway proper cya

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bye

steel fossil
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Any new news?

serene chasm
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no

timber hamlet
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You guys thing silksong is going to be a sequel or a prequel?

wind pike
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Neither

timber hamlet
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Do explain

nimble radish
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midquel

serene chasm
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no

wind pike
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takes place at the exact same time

timber hamlet
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I can kind of imagine that I gusss

marsh ibex
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That…can’t work though

wind pike
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either that or completely alternate universe

serene chasm
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Hornet goes back in time to kill Hornet

marsh ibex
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she can’t…what?

wind pike
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please don’t take that seriously

tawdry valley
timber hamlet
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She goes to Pharloom in the time between her greenpath encounter and her kingdoms edge battle

marsh ibex
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we see her in city of tears too

timber hamlet
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Oh yeah true

wind pike
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and that’s how she becomes a better fighter

nimble radish
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there are several times in hollow knight where the knight is unconscious for an unknown amount of time, one of those is when silksong happens

marsh ibex
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she literally says she was holding back in the first fight

wind pike
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she was lying

timber hamlet
marsh ibex
wind pike
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undefeatable argument

marsh ibex
nimble radish
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nice emote joker

marsh ibex
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there’s a clear progression of power and she has no reason to lie

timber hamlet
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I trust hornet

wind pike
marsh ibex
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there’s no reason for her to lie

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it serves no purpose

stiff burrow
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The problem is there is like no evidence for your theory right

vivid belfry
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in defense of silksong taking place at the same time as hollow knight: the game world doesn't really operate on linear time or even consistent time scales

wind pike
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prove me wrong with solid evidence

marsh ibex
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And hornet isn’t a character who lies

vivid belfry
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out of defense of silksong taking place at the same time as hollow knight: no

timber hamlet
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Personally I think SS is a sequel

nimble radish
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they definitely take place at the same time I'm telling you dude

vivid belfry
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in fact I think my arguments against that are basically the same as my arguments against prequel

wind pike
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source: just trust me bro

marsh ibex
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What?

vivid belfry
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it limits where hornet is allowed to end the story both in terms of character development and power scaling

stiff burrow
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The burden of proof is on the person proposing the theory. You cannot say something randomly and say it's true unless it can be disproven 100%.

nimble radish
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I decided to go with midquelsong because it's the least likely

timber hamlet
wind pike
marsh ibex
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no

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you can’t make me

stiff burrow
wind pike
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true

nimble pebble
wind pike
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I’m not being serious I actually have barely any knowledge on the lore

nimble radish
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it's also the most fun option because of how lore breaking it is

nimble pebble
timber hamlet
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Wait, why does hornet have only four visible limbs if she’s a spider?

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Do you think she hides other legs in her cloak?

wind pike
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the others are tucked

nimble radish
marsh ibex
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She’s half a spider

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And TC doesn’t care about

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Logic

ocean wharf
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Hornet.

nimble radish
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or she's got them squirreled away somewhere

marsh ibex
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Or entomology

timber hamlet
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I wonder if SS will show her with eight legs that would be cool

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If she looked more like a spider by the end of the game

nimble radish
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her arms are actually two arms being held together like general grievous

timber hamlet
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That makes sense

wind pike
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What if algebra was spelled algebruh that would be funny I think

timber hamlet
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Now I want to draw hornet in the style as a HK spider

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That would be cool I think

vivid belfry
timber hamlet
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YES

nimble pebble
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Hornet is half spider

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Half the spider half the legs

languid linden
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Twice the pride, double the fall

nimble pebble
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Dad was a wyrm with no legs, makes sense

nimble radish
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but he did have legs when he became her dad

nimble pebble
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Inconsequential

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Genetics are all that matters in the birth of a child

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He's referred to as a worm even as PK

copper knot
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does anyone even know what pk body looks like

nimble pebble
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King's brand was in his body

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If you mean Pale Fork, then he had legs and probably arms, maybe

fleet temple
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i hope silksong has game mechanics

stoic path
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HK didn't have game mechanics?

serene chasm
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nope

copper knot
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i hope in silksong hornet canonically dies

nimble pebble
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A game that has game mechanics

stoic path
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But doesn't every game have game mechanics?

nimble pebble
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yes no

languid linden
serene chasm
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Thats what made HK so unique. It has no mechanics

nimble pebble
stiff burrow
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And attacking. Like whoa

nimble pebble
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And tools like wowzers

fleet temple
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i hope silksong is a game

serene chasm
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Its actually a manga

fleet temple
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it's a tabletop game

serene chasm
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I would actually play that

vestal wagon
nimble pebble
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HK D&D expansion

fleet temple
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silksong card game

nimble pebble
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That'd be cool too

fleet temple
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silksong ball and cup game

stiff burrow
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Oh that reminds me that the Knight is a card in that the binding of isaac card game

fleet temple
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yeah i know

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silksong cloud version

stiff burrow
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That could happen if it ever comes to xbox and game pass

fleet temple
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silksong for the ds

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with new funky mode

nimble pebble
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SS for the wii

fleet temple
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blance board support

chilly nexus
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SS with guitar hero controller support

nimble pebble
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*Plays Silksong on a guitar

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ngl you could probably figure out how to do that

dreamy zenith
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Thats like playing doom eternal off a nine string

fleet temple
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silksong for the kinect

dreamy zenith
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Silksong for the virtual boy

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Hornet is red, so.

fleet temple
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silksong on the switch prozote

marsh ibex
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No

safe adder
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So where is Crowsworn? Dead as Silksong? sirwhat

fleet temple
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no

nimble pebble
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It made its Kickstarter goal in 3 hours

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and doubled it in a day

fleet temple
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games aren't made in 3 days

nimble pebble
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And still going up

safe adder
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Where is the link mate?

tawdry valley
nimble pebble
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They’re trying for 2023

tawdry valley
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Google “crowsworn kickstarter” for the link to the crowsworn kickstarter

potent plover
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the little crowsworn animation was siiick

nimble pebble
fleet temple
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i should probably watch the crowsworn trailer tbh

nimble pebble
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The Kickstarter trailer is epic

fleet temple
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i'll watch it when silksong comes outzote

nimble pebble
copper knot
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weewoo

dreamy zenith
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Wheres the uh trailer?

safe adder
fleet temple
dreamy zenith
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Because it dawns on me how cool this is

safe adder
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@fleet temple where did u get that emoji form. Like me to the server uuwuu

fleet temple
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oh someone used it here once, i just saved it and put it on my own server to use with nitro

marsh ibex
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The Crowsworn server

dreamy zenith
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Ok fuck yes i want this game

undone nova
copper knot
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crowsworn

silver oak
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Crwswrn

fleet temple
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crswn

serene chasm
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cn

stiff burrow
fleet temple
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c

copper knot
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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

fleet temple
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no

marsh ibex
dreamy zenith
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i might actually go back this tbh

fleet temple
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OMG!!!! SILKNOW!!!

silver oak
# marsh ibex

Silksong release date confirmed November 30th, 2023

potent plover
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silksong confirmed to come out on earthj

fleet temple
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i think the wait has finally broken me

timber willow
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ok

brisk shale
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It could also release earlier then that but it would most likely still be in 2023

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Or last minute 2022

silver oak
cunning geode
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Joker leakin nitro chat wtf

silver oak
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Wombat exposed in 4k for having bad opinion

barren roost
silver oak
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hey remember this shitstorm

copper knot
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oh shit i contributed to that

silver oak
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I don't even think Tammo is active here anymore

barren roost
copper knot
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tammo is done with this entire shitshow

silver oak
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It's still basically accurate

charred pulsar
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hahah that pic

silver oak
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see? simo remembers

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get dabbed on

median violet
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Anyone got the crowsworn discord?

silver oak
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yeah but I can't post it here

median violet
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Dm?

copper knot
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lmao the red circles are the one i put

fierce star
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I wonder if mr mushroom will be in silksong
I mean it would make sense lore wise

silver oak
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If there's any character aside from hornet to appear in both games, it would be him

copper knot
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thats what damascus

calm osprey
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zote

lone hornet
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Any news about Silksong?

silver oak
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Yes

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Your mom, wow get roasted

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There is no news

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There will never be news

silver oak
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But only for you

calm osprey
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It's just going to appear one day

fierce star
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Doesent even matter if its prequel or sequel it would make sense

silver oak
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Team Cherry hates you specifically

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You're adopted

fierce star
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Shush

silver oak
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I don't even think they're still here

fierce star
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Imagine they leave the server

silver oak
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"Mom?"

fierce star
serene chasm
calm osprey
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Hey speaking of sequels that'll never come

serene chasm
calm osprey
silver oak
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Jk I've never played portal

lone hornet
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No news?

silver oak
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Screw you for having emotion over a video game

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Which is something that has never happened before

lone hornet
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I love my Switch yes

serene chasm
stiff burrow
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To any Portal fan here:
Play Portal Reloaded. It a good fan mod.

serene chasm
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I might go do that. After I beat my morrowind playthrough in 200 or so hours

warm bone
thin zephyrBOT
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Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. hollowpins

jovial plover
stiff burrow
jovial plover
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Yooo

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My only complaint about portal is that there’s no portal 3

stiff burrow
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Edited link to be correct haha

proud vale
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Hello fellow silksufferers

fiery coral
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So is Portal Reloaded

serene chasm
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Its UniqueApproved™

tawdry valley
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Portal reloaded was awesome, yeah

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MeL is probably the highest quality mod, but it’s also pretty hard, so be warned on that note

fleet temple
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i haven't played reloaded yet, i should tho

tawdry valley
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The gel testing initiative is okay. Nothing absolutely incredible in terms of voice acting, story, or level design, but it’s still fun.

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the next best mod after that is “thinking with time machine” and it’s based on puzzle mechanics from a ratchet and clank game.

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So yeah, 3 free and pretty high quality portal 2 mods are available

fleet temple
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i've played apreture tag, time machine and mel but just no reloaded

tranquil igloo
mighty edge
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I’ve genuinely never played Portal

grand linden
stiff burrow
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Portal is my favorite Team Cherry game

tranquil igloo
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:/

lone hornet
livid creek
neat moon
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neat moon
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is this true

livid creek
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Oh my god

ocean coral
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You're on to something Simo

neat moon
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well I'm willing to believe on the lie

ocean coral
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Mosrt likely not true

brisk shale
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Impossible

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It’s just a place holder for steam

neat moon
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silk song is fake and should never be mentioned again sadge

brisk shale
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Agreed

cerulean sable
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why are people taking random websites as evidence again

coarse leaf
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I already forgot about Silksong

brisk shale
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I don’t think steam is a random website

coarse leaf
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It's been so much

cerulean sable
brisk shale
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It says steam and then 2021, I’m just guessing it’s steam because I don’t know what the website is from

cerulean sable
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its from a site called instant-gaming

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and it just links the steam page

stiff burrow
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Yeah they are just saying it releases on steam

coarse leaf
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Can i ask something really dumb about the Silksong game?

stiff burrow
cerulean sable
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personally im burnt out on people grasping straws and spreading them as proof at this point

coarse leaf
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Is there any confirmation of this going to PS4/Xbox or whatever

cerulean sable
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confirmed no

stiff burrow
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Nope, only Steam and Switch so far

cerulean sable
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implied yes

coarse leaf
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Hmmm

stiff burrow
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It could come to those but not at launch

brisk shale
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It’ll probably be on the ps4 and xbox after a month or two after it releases

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Maybe even the ps5 too

coarse leaf
#

So i gotta be careful to don't get spoiled if that happens

stiff burrow
#

If you can't play on PC or Switch, yeah probably

coarse leaf
#

Yep

deft coyote
#

has there been any silksong news recently

brisk shale
#

No

deft coyote
#

:(

cerulean sable
#

not confirmed as in "We dont wanna release it on all consoles at launch as thats heavy work for a small team"

implied as in "We wanna do it tho, just not on launch" and Leth even mentioning in an interview that theyre already contacting Jump Shark? studios again for porting reasons (which wouldnt make sense if its the Switch considering we already saw them making a build on Switch from the Treehouse)

brisk shale
#

Some person said there was gonna be a news paper on hollo knight in a couple of weeks but idk if thats true

ocean coral
#

there will probably be controller support when the game comes out though right

cerulean sable
#

if its some randos saying theres news, either its them joking or them grasping straws again

#

eitherway i just recommend you ignore the game's existance

stiff burrow
#

They could mean the magazine

cerulean sable
#

time flies so fast were already halfway through 2021

ocean coral
#

yea thats kinda crazy

coarse leaf
#

Yeah, when i saw the trailer, i was hyped, but forgot about the game

cerulean sable
#

i forgot about the magazine but that one was already mentioned to be focused on TC as a company

brisk shale
#

I ignore the game until i replay hollow knight and then i just end up watching hollow knight videos and get sad that silksong isn’t out

stiff burrow
#

I randomly got back into Hollow Knight like a month ago so yeah
Focused doesn't mean there will be nothing at all. Just not a lot

cerulean sable
coarse leaf
#

I Just get sad when i look to hornet

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In the true ending

stiff burrow
#

Hah, I also did stuff I didn't do then first time, like steel soul.

brisk shale
#

I just beat steelsoul my last time i replayed it not too long ago

#

I recommend getting the nail upgrades as soon as possible

coarse leaf
#

I'm willing to buy a Switch, just so i can pre-order Silksong haha

cerulean sable
#

what i cope with is that i always start with a more intermediate expectation that realistically SS just started development after Godmaster, and that the SS reveal trailer was more of a "proof of concept" that exists they made within those 8 months

so with that game technically has around 3~ years of development which imo isnt enough with a game of their scale

brisk shale
#

Unfortunately silksong doesn’t appear on nintendos store on the switch

stiff burrow
#

It will only appear there once it has a release date

brisk shale
#

Yea not yet

#

Or close to getting a release date

cerulean sable
#

and i know people say that "but now they have experience so it should be faster" which is true, but stuff like designing, creating and making art for a game that has way way way way higher expectations is probably putting more pressure at them than the first game to the point that itll take them extra designing time

add up to Hornet having a more complex moveset, its probably for the best they take another year for it to be made

coarse leaf
#

I wish they don't release before they are sure it's good, just like Cyberpunk

cerulean sable
#

like i imagine its not only an issue of "well they have enough enemies already" or "they just need to add new areas" when they have to account something like HK being traversable once you hit certain abilities, or how far theyre spread out, or if this health upgrade makes sense to be here

all those design issues could still permeate especially on a larger game

brisk shale
#

Hornets moveset is the main reason i want to play silksong

cerulean sable
#

but they didnt, because they already learned their lessons from Godmaster

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(aka Early 2018)

coarse leaf
#

Godmaster scares me

stiff burrow
#

Was Godmaster buggy on release?

cerulean sable
#

so with no release date, theres literally no fucking rush or reason for them to "reelase it before they make sure its good"

coarse leaf
brisk shale
#

They have a planned release date, from one of mossbags videos i think he said they had crunch months to keep on schedule

cerulean sable
#

internally they probably have yeah

#

as it keeps the work moving

#

its more of an external deadline which theyre pressured to meet because now theres no public backlash if they miss it

stiff burrow
#

Having a timetable makes sense for any bigger project
Would be bad if they didn't have one at all

coarse leaf
#

I wish i could understand some things that you guys are saying

stiff burrow
#

What do you not understand

coarse leaf
#

My english not very good yk

stiff burrow
#

Oh you write well though

cerulean sable
#

were just saying how if youre making a project or a game, putting a deadline is a good idea (even if you dont tell your fans) as it will motivate you to keep the project moving

coarse leaf
#

At least

brisk shale
#

Well having no time table is good and bad, you can have more time to flesh out the game and make it better and stuff

#

But the downside is it would take a while

stiff burrow
#

If you have no timetable or internal deadlines it would be working with no end in sight which is not good

cerulean sable
#

and allow you to organize on the long run (feature x must be finished at this time) etc

coarse leaf
#

Now i understood

#

My brain worked finally

stiff burrow
coarse leaf
#

Yes

cerulean sable
#

because even in stuff like homeworks

#

you know how deadly the mentality of "ehh ill finish it one day" is

#

usually ends up with you only doing it on the actual submission date

coarse leaf
cerulean sable
#

yeah

coarse leaf
#

I almost repeated bcs of that

#

Well, im good now

lament mauve
#

is it still up for debate whether Silksong is a prequel or sequel?

copper knot
#

what is not a debate at this point?

stiff burrow
#

The debate certainly is here at least once a day

brisk shale
#

I’m pretty sure it’s a sequel, but i also have no idea how they will account for all the hollow knight endings

coarse leaf
brisk shale
#

Unless you start being able to choose what ending you had, but it would probably cause only minor consequences in the game depending on which ending you picked

cerulean sable
#

i personally prefer sequels because you usually see how characters develop further from when you first see them to be a lot more satisfying

copper knot
#

plot twist: its an alternate universe

brisk shale
#

That could work to but it doesn’t make any sense

cerulean sable
#

whereas prequels tends to be "well we know whats gonna happen to him after"
which isnt to say its a bad thing, more of a preference

also i like sequels because it makes the world feel like its still moving, if that makes sense

copper knot
#

prequels are bad unless if it follows a character we have never seen before honestly

cerulean sable
#

not really?

brisk shale
#

Idk god of war was good

cerulean sable
#

it all comes down to execution, regardless if something is a sequel or not

copper knot
#

that was an exxageration

cerulean sable
#

hard to tell

coarse leaf
copper knot
#

I MEAN PREQUELS NOT SEQUELS OH SHIT

#

I CANT TYPE I CANT TYPE zote

cerulean sable
#

amazing

copper knot
#

NOT AMAZING :(

coarse leaf
#

It's really sad

brisk shale
copper knot
#

but yeah im not a big fan of prequels

#

its mostly lowkey boring

lament mauve
#

I've seen some good prequels.

coarse leaf
lament mauve
#

It's a shame we won't see the Knight again.

copper knot
#

you can, just replay hollow knight

coarse leaf
#

True

copper knot
#

i have a drawing of hornet on my wall to remind me that silksong will never come out

brisk shale
lament mauve
lament mauve
#

accepted.

cerulean sable
#

ehhh i dont really like the knight being forced to appear in Silksong

lament mauve
#

kill me

copper knot
coarse leaf
#

He dead

cerulean sable
#

sometimes if done incorrectly, it usually ends up just being plain fanservice

brisk shale
#

Like you could collect their mask shard if you end up in hallownest again at the beginning or end of the game

cerulean sable
#

like the time Pyramid Head appeared in Silent Hill Homecoming because....

because hes a popular character if their character doesnt make sense to manifest to the protagonist

barren roost
copper knot
#

speaking of fanservice, i honestly wonder if lace is a fanservice for people who wants hornet to have a gf

lament mauve
#

um...

cerulean sable
#

it just appearing for the sake of appearing is kinda forced tbh, and id rather this be a story about Hornet herself

brisk shale
#

What’s the idea

coarse leaf
#

Imagine the last boss fight, is in destroyed Hallownest, or something like that

stiff burrow
#

Hallownest is already in ruin
Let's destroy it more

coarse leaf
#

Yessir

cerulean sable
#

i mean a the Knight COULD show up if the circumstances are justifiable but even then

same reason for the TGT or any other characters appearing just because

brisk shale
#

I feel like that could be in a different ending

olive bobcat
copper knot
olive bobcat
#

I know what Lacenet is

copper knot
#

i am still scarred from the undertale shipping fandom

cerulean sable
#

IMO the game should be focused on Pharloom instead, with the HK stuff being more tied to Hornet's past on the Weavers rather than Hallownest on tis own

olive bobcat
#

And like most ships, it has little to no backing in the source material

brisk shale
#

The likely hood of the knight appearing is unlikely, but what if the hollow knight appears in silksong

lament mauve
#

Ok now hear me out, what if Zote came back in Silksong?

copper knot
#

your mom in silksong

lament mauve
#

:\

cerulean sable
#

it also boils down to SHOULD they be showing up again in the first place

copper knot
#

i believe that hallownest is not going to be in silksong tbh

cerulean sable
#

i kinda disliked Dark Souls 3 because it wouldnt stop throwing constant OH HEY REMEMBER DARK SOULS 1? references

brisk shale
#

Or there could just be a weaver in silksong that is the equivalent of the hollow knight

copper knot
#

what

cerulean sable
#

i dont know how that makes sense but sure

#

them showing up for the sake of showing up because fans want them is really eh

brisk shale
#

Like it just had a lot of bells inside of it like the hollow knight had the infection

cerulean sable
#

sometimes to the point of detriment

olive bobcat
copper knot
#

"yo why the fuck am i here"
-thk

coarse leaf
#

I feel like Dark Souls 3 really fell flat creatively because it lacked it's own individual identity.

cerulean sable
#

i prefer how subtle the DS2 references but the DS1 references were outright in front of your face

lament mauve
#

I didn't think the final boss was the title of the game.

cerulean sable
#

ahhh yes the inevitable title drop

copper knot
#

the final boss of silksong is called silksong

cerulean sable
#

"Hornet, our lineage of weavers are dying, you must stop it..."
"You must stop the Hollow Knight™️: Silksong™️ from controlling us..."
"You must.... ughhhhh...."

ocean coral
#

well song is a big part of the game so maybe the final boss will be like some voice thingy

copper knot
#

the final boss of silksong is the dashmaster feelspkman

ocean coral
#

sans

copper knot
#

sens

stiff burrow
#

Or you learn a bunch of songs in the game and silksong is the last one

brisk shale
#

It would be cool if we just fought another moth

lament mauve
#

wait, in the trailer, was Hornet.....playing her weapon?

stiff burrow
#

Making too many fighter moths would go against their lore tho

ocean coral
#

yes

cunning geode
#

“It would be cool if (something we already did in HK)” Why are you saying this

copper knot
#

it would be cool if silksong's name is hollow knight

ocean coral
#

It woukd be cool if we fought the hollow knight

olive bobcat
#

It would be cool if we killed the three singers to unlock the Brass Bell and fight the Silksong

ocean coral
#

i wonder how we will power scale between these 2 games

stiff burrow
cerulean sable
#

if you want fanservice might as well just somehow shoehorn Hallownest's entire map at the bottom of Pharloom because the flow of time is convoluted or some shit

ocean coral
#

make it like a pokemon gold and silver type thing where when u beat the game u can go back to hallownest

cerulean sable
#

otherwise dont even bother about developing pharloom as its own world because people are just gonna somehow hope that character x conveniently show up again because theyre m y favorite characters even if it doesnt make sense

#

i stand by my ideals

olive bobcat
#

Fun fact: all the people who say "Grimm would need to a new moveset if he were in SS" are entirely wrong and should know that

brisk shale
#

Bro id hate if there was a boss that just shot musical notes at you by playing the flute

olive bobcat
#

He is entirely do-able with Hornet's moveset

copper knot
#

the best hollow knight fanservice is knight/hornet in smash

ocean coral
#

OK but Silksong doesnt need grimm

stiff burrow
brisk shale
olive bobcat
lament mauve
#

what if Silksong wasn't a who.

ocean coral
#

I think i would dislike it if he was there tbh

copper knot
olive bobcat
#

Regardless here's a fake of it-

cerulean sable
#

It doesnt need every character in HK to conveniently show up at all

ocean coral
#

hornet among grimm

stiff burrow
#

Only one to make sense is Mr Mushroom

cerulean sable
#

at most id expect only ONE character to reappear again

brisk shale
copper knot
#

honestly i would prefer that silksong doesnt have many returning characters other than bretta or mr mushroom

ocean coral
#

I could also see like bretta showing up

cerulean sable
#

one character returning will do a lot more "HOLY SHIT ITS HIMMMMMM" moment vs to constantly justifying why half of HK's cast somehow ended up in Pharloom

brisk shale
#

Also if there is gonna be another hunters journal I’m pretty sure it’s gonna be from the huntress

lament mauve
#

I prefer Mr. Mushroom or Zote.

cerulean sable
#

Mr Mushroom im sure already, but theres probably 1 extra character they could excuse of appearing again

ocean coral
#

Sherma is new zote

cerulean sable
#

as well as ignoring Team Cherry's repeated affirmation that they dont do "canon" as every playthrough is its own adventure

so would be nice to break that by making the TGT ending canon and ignoring banishment alltogether

lament mauve
#

I felt so sorry for Zote in Hollow Knight.

#

he was such a loser.

#

not even the good kind of loser, either.

copper knot
#

there is no way zote is gonna be in silksong tbh considering one of the endings have him DEAD

brisk shale
#

If anything we’ll just see a zote equivalent in silksong which is probably the thief guy in the prison

cerulean sable
#

Sherma the incompetent bitch and his stupid triangle bell

#

yeahyeah

copper knot
#

what are yalls fav silksong characters

lament mauve
#

I actually think Sherma's kinda cute.

copper knot
#

i hate sherma for no reason he just is so killable

copper knot
#

sherma is like myla for me i wanna step on them

olive bobcat
fiery coral
#

look at that lovely face

brisk shale
#

We haven’t even played the game yet slow yer roll

fiery coral
#

why would you hurt the little fella

cerulean sable
#

i hate sherma

fiery coral
#

why shamansad

cunning geode
#

It would be incredible if Sherma can die on any quest you go with him on

copper knot
fiery coral
cerulean sable
#

i 100 bet theyre jsut gonna start spewing void tentacles mid game

#

or theyre killed to maximize myla moment to sell more plushies

copper knot
#

favourite silksong character hmmm seth? trobbio? i like em

#

oh and lace because i like how she calls hornet delicious

lament mauve
copper knot
#

hornet is canonically a tumblr sexywoman

bye

cerulean sable
#

my personal headcanon is void as an entity isnt exactly exclusive to Hallownest

#

given that stuff like the Steelbois are hinted in a way to be affiliated and theyre from a different land

cerulean sable
#

Sharpe has an attack that looked like it creates a long void tendrill, hes also from the same gang seen in the trailer that has a similar aesthetic to Jinn, who implies knows about void and how she came from other lands

lament mauve
#

that reminds me.

cerulean sable
brisk shale
#

I’m pretty sure void will appear in enemies, but I’m pretty sure there won’t be an ancient basin

cerulean sable
lament mauve
#

I should finish putting together my void monster.

coarse leaf
#

i love sherma

copper knot
#

sherma can go step on a lego and die

cerulean sable
#

gif does not work

barren roost
lament mauve
serene chasm
#

wait? did they get rid of the sharpe gif on the tc site?

brisk shale
#

I don’t think void will have any place in the story though

barren roost
lament mauve
#

and they're probably void?

serene chasm
barren roost
#

look! a news update! TC like crowsworn!
this has been your daily silksong news for today

brisk shale
#

Yesterday’s news

lament mauve
#

I have release date predictions.

brisk shale
#

Tomorrow

lament mauve
#

No

brisk shale
#

2 o’clock out of nowhere

chilly nexus
#

TC is alive!!!

serene chasm
#

Fun fact. If SS had the same Announcement - Release timeline as HK. It would come out tomorrow (July 12th)

shrewd venture
#

hi ss discussion
any news on silksong besides huhueh bripp

fleet temple
#

?sspsa

thin zephyrBOT
#

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. hollowpins

shrewd venture
#

oh thanks

serene chasm
brisk shale
#

If tc was dead I’m pretty sure this conversation wouldn’t be going out rn

olive bobcat
#

It's not though

serene chasm
#

Everyday is HK anniversary

cerulean sable
#

did people unironically think they were dead

olive bobcat
brisk shale
serene chasm
brisk shale
#

To be fair it was 7 months or so before they said something

barren roost
#

we were in that seven hour gap
be earlier next time

serene chasm
#

We only talk about SS when youre not here

chilly nexus
#

LF 1 artist and 1 sound designer, and maybe 1 coder

#

for a secret project

#

jkjk, nothing is happening

barren roost
pallid flare
potent plover
#

I'm looking into that message wombat said about the crowsworns release date connecting to when silksong might release

#

I'm trying my hardest rn to come up with a serious answer

#

Hmmm

pallid flare
potent plover
shell cove
#

Is?

pallid flare
#

in the end, we can't really predict anything other than "silksoon"

olive bobcat
#

That's basically just Hornet again

potent plover
#

Anyways, Many people have probably said this, but crowsworn looks sick

pallid flare
#

yes

olive bobcat
#

Ari and Will are

#

Leth and Graig are here too

pallid flare
#

that vine person tho

shell cove
#

Guys just remember the chick in Nintendo treehouse said it was coming soon

potent plover
#

I have done a tiny bit of math and it looks like the final stretch goal of crowsworn would be 800k in canadian cash, or like 650,000 in US money I think

#

I wonder if we will ever get there?

pallid flare
#

you mean the crowsworn kickstarter?

potent plover
#

yeah

shell cove
#

Honestly I love crowsworn

pallid flare
#

it'll totally get there

shell cove
#

And I don’t care if it’s a clone (which it isn’t) because at least we’re getting another hollow knight like game on top on silksong

potent plover
#

I have a feeling crowsworn will be pretty difficult

barren roost
shell cove
#

I just mean it’s similar in art style and atmosphere

#

Not in gameplay or genre tho

potent plover
#

I mean, there is actually not much unique to hollow knight

#

Other than the story of course

barren roost
pallid flare
#

what

hearty tendon
#

We need more combat

pallid flare
#

all in all, hollow knight isn't all that original

hearty tendon
#

The charms is cool doe

pallid flare
#

it took inspiration from a few sources and made something great with it

barren roost
hearty tendon
#

Darn

#

But cmon there are certain charms that

#

Wait now I've realize all charms isn't really changing the gameplay

#

Huh perhaps tools can take that place

olive bobcat
#

Tools copied Crowsworn feelspkman

hearty tendon
#

Crowsworn more like 2d bloodborne shermaU

copper knot
#

crowsworn more like lunatic cultist copycat

chilly nexus
#

still waiting for a 2d sekiro-like genre game with target lock on carmelitasigh

copper knot
#

honestly i really wanna play a difficult turn based rpg because idk why but im starting to grow a heavy liking to that

hearty tendon
#

Sekiro-like is a genre now ?

copper knot
#

does anyone know a difficult turn based rpg game

hearty tendon
#

Mother 1 zote

copper knot
#

other than the mother series

hearty tendon
#

Jk probably try faster than light or into the breach

#

Disgaea is also one, but i don't know if it's difficult

#

Or you could ask google lol im actually popo brain on turn based game zote

copper knot
#

lmaoo

hearty tendon
#

Just remember to not be an item hoarder

potent plover
#

crowsworn's soundtrack sounds really good

#

Maybe even better than my favourite

hearty tendon
#

Can it beat lace theme tho ?

potent plover
#

?

hearty tendon
#

There's a silent e there

#

There fixed it

potent plover
#

I feel like they're both pretty equal

#

Lace is great but it can sometimes feel a tiny bit slow

hearty tendon
#

Just put it in 2x speed then zotewheeze

potent plover
#

even 1.25x speed is fast as hell

#

Be aware I'm not much of a hollow knight fan as I used to be

hearty tendon
#

That will be how it feels to fight lace omegamarmu

potent plover
#

It seems like its gonna be tougher than hk

hearty tendon
#

Eh Don't worry about it it's not gonna be that hard

potent plover
#

A more evasive moveset, More focus on combat and platforming, Smarter AI...

hearty tendon
#

Provided you already finished Pantheon 5 ofcourse tisowo

potent plover
hearty tendon
#

God you didn't...well tough luck then sethfedora

potent plover
#

welp time to bury myself

#

And cry after I cant get past lace

coarse leaf
#

Bro for real, i think Silksong will be released when the new switch goes out

#

Press X to doubt

potent plover
#

I think silksong will release when t

coarse leaf
#

t

potent plover
#

t

coarse leaf
#

True tho

#

We'll never know

hearty tendon
#

We got the knight pfp and the hollow knight pfp now that's what i call a sign

potent plover
#

a sign of what

#

And thanks for noticing I made i did it myself

normal hinge
#

ayo aepu long time no see elderbug

coarse leaf
hearty tendon
normal hinge
hearty tendon
#

Context please

normal hinge
#

aajjjfw

#

not a memorable name is it

hearty tendon
#

Yeah

#

Perhaps a memorable encounter could clear my mind

normal hinge
#

I'm searching

hearty tendon
#

Hello searching im aepüfeelspkman

chilly nexus
coarse leaf
#

Funny

chilly nexus
#

if you wanted like a strategy thing

coarse leaf
#

The only rpg i like playing is the discord one

chilly nexus
#

i'm only level 92 in that one carmelitasigh

coarse leaf
#

I'm 66 tt5 zote

chilly nexus
#

oo whoa

coarse leaf
#

Jk

#

Tt0 but almost tt1, imma sleep now, bye

hearty tendon
#

There's a discord rpg ?

coarse leaf
#

Epic rpg is the name

normal hinge
hearty tendon
#

Did it include a sword that speak like a pirate ?

#

No ? Bad game it is

normal hinge
#

misleading name

hearty tendon
#

A sword that can speak is cool ngl

hearty tendon
normal hinge
#

yes

hearty tendon
#

Hold on is your name sus or something ?

#

Because kinda read it like that

jolly silo
hearty tendon
#

Damnit noooooo

jolly silo
#

what?

hearty tendon
#

Not another sussy baka

normal hinge
#

🈷️

jolly silo
#

haha

hearty tendon
#

Im i...a-

normal hinge
#

اموج اس

hearty tendon
#

スソ

#

I hate you stagflustered

jolly silo
#

wow no need for that

hearty tendon
#

Blame @normal hinge

jolly silo
charred pulsar
hearty tendon
#

Lmao

jolly silo
#

yes of course

hearty tendon
#

@normal hinge please say something, tell me that your name isn't sus

jolly silo
#

they dont need to tell you

normal hinge
#

I can't confirm nor deny

jolly silo
#

wow nice solution

hearty tendon
#

Man

jolly silo
hearty tendon
#

Can't believe i just talk about sus for 5 minute straight

jolly silo
#

you did

hearty tendon
#

Feelin like turd now, might become a compose later dungo

ashen grail
#

question, is ss ever releasing

jolly silo
#

i say early 2022 or late 2021

ocean mulch
normal hinge
hearty tendon
#

Tommorow

ashen grail
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i mean honestly

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it could come out tomorrow or in 30 years

hearty tendon
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The problem is tommorow never come

jolly silo
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we are jixing it hard

ocean mulch
hearty tendon
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Cmon we got elden ring

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We also got dying light

jolly silo
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i mean ill still buy it 30 years from now

hearty tendon
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Have faith

jolly silo
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yes

hearty tendon
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Anyway go play modded hk or something

jolly silo
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me on nintendo

normal hinge
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what's dying light

hearty tendon
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Damn shadecry Cmon it's the very cool zombie parkour game

hearty tendon
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*proceed to play pale court

jolly silo
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wait arent they in final testing just polishing the game and there working on a new game too so it should almost be finished

hearty tendon
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About silksong ?

jolly silo
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yes

hearty tendon
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Idk

jolly silo
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i know i heard that somewhere

narrow lava
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SS is just hollowknight but more silky

jolly silo
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and songy

hearty tendon
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Hollow knight is just ss but no silk

normal hinge
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sus discussion

jolly silo
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wait sus is just ss with a u in the middle so what the u mean

hearty tendon
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untrustworthy mylaU

jolly silo
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no undecided release date

normal hinge
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silundesidedreleasedatesong

narrow lava
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this chat is so damn weird sometimes

normal hinge
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I can't spell

jolly silo
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yes so what about it

hearty tendon
jolly silo
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yesshakra

narrow lava
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I loved among us, but got damn I hate the memes

potent plover
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silksus

hearty tendon
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I love the memes tisowo

narrow lava
hearty tendon
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You laugh but society will actually become more advanced because of that

normal hinge
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no more shaw soulpensive

hearty tendon
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Shawned wai

jolly silo
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i dealted it cause everyone went quit so i got worried

normal hinge
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anyways I gtg adios

jolly silo
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ok bye

hearty tendon
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They're far to strong, we can't stop it

jolly silo
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today my friend opened up discord and i saw he used light mode

hearty tendon
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First it's jerma now literally every fandom has its version of sus imposter

hearty tendon
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Or perhaps an eye doctor

jolly silo
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he just said he liked the aprrence better we have been friend for 6 year that was the first time my respeced was lossed for him in a second now he has to earn it back

hearty tendon
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Damn

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That's harsh

jolly silo
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yah i over exagerated

hearty tendon
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Yeah

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You're friends probably just need support

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Either that or he just tired of discord new color

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I miss old blue color i want it back shadecry

jolly silo
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yah that could be it

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but i will always have his back

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any ways gtg

hearty tendon
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Same tbh

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Lol bye

dim ferry
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Damn we really went all summer without even a blog post

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We thought 2022 for sure
No way it'll be 2023

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At least there's like
Crowsworn and The new metroid

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Oh my god I thought summer ended in like early august

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I always think summer is like May through august

signal crag
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And there’s still Christmas

brisk shale
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Summer ends in September according to google

stray cedar
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There will obviously be an announcement at thanksgiving

grim forge
brave breach
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Is Silksong out?

late yacht
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no :(

thin zephyrBOT
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brave breach
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Oh well

copper knot
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we indirectly got an approximate release date and nobody talked bout it?

tropic mica
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Wait when did we get anything more than soon

proud vale
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Huh

copper knot
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well someone brought this up before but ill just say again

leth has stated that crowsworn is much less finished than silksong in an interview and that crowsworn will release after silksong
crowsworn's release date projection is in 2023 in the kickstarter
that means silksong's release date is most likely in 2022 or late 2021

tropic mica
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Where did leth make the comparisson

proud vale
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I mean that’s possible, but it could also mean that crowsworn could take less long to make?

tropic mica
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That would be great

copper knot
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well leth has stated that silksong will release before crowsworn

tropic mica
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But take in consideration that SS is in the making for over 2 years now

copper knot
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edgy sleet
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so

copper knot
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we got an approximate release date, and that is before crowsworn and crowsworn's projected release date is 2023

edgy sleet
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ok

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so shit

copper knot
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why

edgy sleet
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well it might come out a month before crowsworn which is in 2 years

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but this means we have a kind of known release. Inbetween now and 2023

copper knot
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hey we got something

edgy sleet
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yeah so its good sorry i don't no why i swore XD but this means we have a release frame

analog forge
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We've known that silksong will come first since literally the announcement of crowsworn

potent plover
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It seems like hornet's dash will be similar to the one from Ori WoTW

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from what I've seen

copper knot
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well i know that

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im just saying that silksong will release most likely before crowsworn

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and crowsworn's projected release date is dec 2023

potent plover
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silksus 202 confirmed

copper knot
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which means silksong most likely 2022

potent plover
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mmm