sk-discussion

[rotund gate]

Mio glaze

[lavish apex]

i just wish you didn't skip an entire phase for playing too well

[orchid spruce]

I was playing very casually, took 10 tries or so.

[lavish apex]

and that there was a bit less downtime
if both of those things were fixed it would basically be a perfect boss

[orchid spruce]

I didn't know how to avoid one of the attacks and just facetanked through it

[light swan]

i dont think the dark phase is the biggest problem

can you like hammer it in more rn

[orchid spruce]

And I had like 2 masks of HP

[light swan]

@lavish apex @exotic dome @fiery burrow spam the server to buff the boss NOW

[orchid spruce]

I was on a lowHP build and somehow facetanked the boss

[fiery burrow]

true

[orchid spruce]

[light swan]

please

[lavish apex]

really i think just speeding up the teleport animation would do it

[opaque sigil]

getting hit by one attack isn't facetanking a boss

[fiery burrow]

illusion did you see me ||getting to s&v before glide/harvester||

(Mio map spoilers) this map is crazy fr fr

[light swan]

yea, i dont even know how you got up0 there in the first place but i didnt try very hard with otehr abilities so idk

[orchid spruce]

Why does the map look so small

I swear it was gigantic

[opaque sigil]

I mean that's just a fraction of it but it is small

[light swan]

starpengu, youre next

[orchid spruce]

Yeah, I'm never going to like afterimage

MIO time!

[fiery burrow]

next to what

[light swan]

complain about the final boss's hp in miocord

[mental snow]

New PB: 134 in Juggle. And that was a horrible run, I can go so much further.

[frosty light]

???? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m25Eqzbc6_g

[orchid spruce]

I hated how obscure this was I found it only by chance that I clicked the ||hairpin|| button at the right time on accident

Especially for how important this progression was

[light swan]

improtant? for progresion? what?

[fiery burrow]

I had help to find it

[orchid spruce]

Was it not progression

[fiery burrow]

But its completely optional and doesn't really give a real reward

[orchid spruce]

I don't remember

Oh, I see

[light swan]

its a completley optional superboss intended for you postgame

[orchid spruce]

Is the superboss in the room with us?

[light swan]

uhhhh what does this mean

[lavish apex]

many would say it's the most difficult fight in the game

[exotic dome]

buff propaganda is done

[mental snow]

Love the fact that Hornet just decided to keep going when I let go of the dash button

[light swan]

@ancient mortar whenever youre on can you go complain to the mio devs in #developer-feedback and get them to buff the second final boss's hp please

isnt it horrible that you can miss the dark phase from the boss being too squishy? it is, isnt it?

starpengu youre not helping

[fiery burrow]

tf I do bruh

[versed pollen]

Shots just for fun

[mental snow]

Farm Rosaries, probably
Gonna need a lot of them

[graceful oyster]

[latent terrace]

Is silksong writing fire?

[compact cargo]

Nough

[orchid spruce]

let's hope all that spam results in something

[exotic dome]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-smh-laughing-laugh-gif-16005642344163940773

[humble surge]

aight lil teaser yall im going to bed

[mental snow]

Glad they patched the bug with quitting out before you let the Rosaries register

[trim estuary]

which mod dev are you again the video isn’t loading

[humble surge]

i made auric aegis and king of the coral kin xd

[trim estuary]

Ohhhh

[analog mist]

"nail parry"

fucking hell

ah yes my favorite hollow knight silksong weapon the nail

(I'm sorry)

[mental snow]

Absolute Parryma

[normal bramble]

I do hope we get something to reward parrying more

[exotic dome]

also add that karmelita's curvesickles can be parried. it's pretty smooth and fun

[normal bramble]

Looks so cool does so little in terms of being worth it

[humble surge]

its the nail in my heart (and in the code)

[analog mist]

I mean ngl

not taking damage is very much so a very good reward

[humble surge]

yea karmelita is one of the smoothest bosses with the mod

[mental snow]

We get to look cool and don't have to waste time dodging

[normal bramble]

Parrying is like the least effective way of dodging something most of the time though

There’s like almost always a way to dodge while actually doing damage

[orchid spruce]

major spoilers for: Nine sols, MIO, Blasphemous 2

changed things around a bit, i'm happy with this list for now

[analog mist]

I guess that's fair

[normal bramble]

It looks cool and that’s basically it and it’s not really consistent

[humble surge]

first time i got to skarrguard i thought they wanted you to parry it lol

[analog mist]

but that's kinda like cuz the game doesn't really expect you to parry everything

[normal bramble]

A tool that would reward you for parrying would be awesome

[analog mist]

partying 🎉🥳🥳🎉🎈

[normal bramble]

doesn’t have to be anything huge

But likeee

[analog mist]

(I'm sorry)

[humble surge]

eggnog my beloved one of the best bosses in all of gaming

[exotic dome]

ugh i saw the boss on the d tier again

[orchid spruce]

🤫 spoiler her

[humble surge]

see thats where i took it personally

[humble surge]

gotchu

[orchid spruce]

have you beaten it

[analog mist]

yeah I can see that

[exotic dome]

i did but it was so annoying

[orchid spruce]

understandable

[exotic dome]

it's my least fav boss probably

[orchid spruce]

it's only there because blasphemous 2 bosses are hella mid in general

so bad bosses still get in top 5

[exotic dome]

it was worse than the addslop because the addslop atleast had an interesting pattern

this is just projectile spam

[orchid spruce]

it was less offensive than adslop for me

i'm fine with a bit of bullet hell

weren't most of them easy to dodge though?

iirc?

[exotic dome]

they were easy but it wasnt fun

[orchid spruce]

[exotic dome]

i think it took me 5 tries and i did it hitless at the end

i remember getting an hitless achievement lol

[orchid spruce]

lmao

[mental snow]

What if there was fall damage in Silksong

[cerulean sable]

i just realized

[tight viper]

It would end after the intro cutscene

[normal bramble]

Falling from blasted to grotto is insta death

[cerulean sable]

the Phantom parry ending has like a large blaring organ to it

[normal bramble]

And we just die at the start of the game

[orchid spruce]

the epic early game grime boss i talked about some time ago would land C+ comfortably here

[quartz cave]

Ttacco

[orchid spruce]

may be recency bias

[cerulean sable]

Ismoil

[quartz cave]

The space people have arrived

[cerulean sable]

i will fight them

[quartz cave]

Theyre currently being rescued

Isnt it so peak

[cerulean sable]

tell them to meet me at the Pacific Ocean

[quartz cave]

Good news theyre already there

Wait what the fuck
Im watching nasas livestream why is there a giant floating taco approaching the orion ship

[cerulean sable]

there I will see if they are truely worth to be of Earth

[quartz cave]

WHAT THE HELL tacco why did you do that

[gray grotto]

is there a closer bench to widow than the one in shellwood?

[quartz cave]

The one in moss grotto

[gray grotto]

wdym

[quartz cave]

The one in moss grotto

[gray grotto]

how is that closer

[quartz cave]

The portal in moss grotto???

Have you like not explored at all

[gray grotto]

not necessarily

my friend has been guiding me

up until greymoor

[quartz cave]

Theres this portal in moss grotto you can access to inmediatelly teleport to your last boss arena

[gray grotto]

is it very hidden?

[quartz cave]

Not really that much

[exotic dome]

hes lying it actually teleports you to pharloom bay

[quartz cave]

If your last boss was in pharloom bay yeah

[quartz cave]

Aka youve barely used it it seems

[gray grotto]

so where do i find a closer bench (if it exists)

because it it such a long way back everytime

[exotic dome]

there is a shortcut to the arena did you unlock it

[gray grotto]

idk, maybe

[exotic dome]

and also from which bench are you going to the boss

[gray grotto]

the paid one in shellwood

[balmy pumice]

What blue tools should I use for beast crest builds

[mental snow]

Chess is harder than Silksong

[undone gate]

So Raging Congfly is your 5th favorite Silksong Boss

[orchid spruce]

unironically

[exotic dome]

if it's the one near the elevator yeah that is the closest. there should be a shortcut tho i don't remember the runback being too long

[mental snow]

Not gonna lie, I can see why it's your 5th favourite

[undone gate]

While I do find Raging Congfly as a cool boss I don't think it would be in my Top 10

[gray grotto]

i completely forgot about the elevator

[balmy pumice]

Raging conch fly is a joke when you encounter it

[undone gate]

You can encounter it before double jump

[orchid spruce]

Amazing flow

[balmy pumice]

Please explain

The second fight?

[orchid spruce]

And finally, no more adslop, please, I could use a break

[undone gate]

All you need is Clawline to access Raging Congfly

[undone gate]

Yea in the big open area you can go below to find a thing that spawns platforms to take you to the top

[balmy pumice]

Oh that’s some cool routing

I have to remember that for randos

[exotic dome]

i wouldnt call raging conchfly an add boss

[undone gate]

Raging Congfly has the best use of adds which is using it as a alternate attack

[orchid spruce]

that's why it's not an addslop boss

[mental snow]

What if there were 32 Cogwork Dancers

[orchid spruce]

i only encountered one bossfight where real adds are not slop (GRIME)

[undone gate]

Yea it's kinda hard to say like Savage Beastly,Sister Splitter, Broodmother,Moss Mother are clear froms of Add Bosses the other are a bit different

[mental snow]

Sister Splinter*

[orchid spruce]

that bossfight is so amazing given it's an early fight

on par with Lace 2

[undone gate]

Even for Groul the adds do one attack while the boss is not there and then leave which is a decent use of adds

[orchid spruce]

honestly worse than lace 2, recency bias strikes hard

[undone gate]

Which boss

[orchid spruce]

probably in the same tier as raging conchfly then

but then i'll have to move ||benedicto|| down

[cerulean sable]

Burger Song Silk Lettus

[cerulean sable]

they must be truely worthy

[orchid spruce]

||Vulture|| (GRIME)

[undone gate]

I have never played Grime

[orchid spruce]

What metroidvanias have you played?

HK and Silksong?

[undone gate]

And Nine Sols that's all

[orchid spruce]

I see

[plucky stag]

those three are my top three metroidvanias

but aside from those i have also played the ori duology as well as animal well

but for the last game i only played until the credits; i skipped the postgame

[orchid spruce]

I see

My top threes are Nine Sols, MIO and HK/Blasphemous 2, depending on my mood

[graceful oyster]

What? What is this? Nine Sols mentioned in #sk-discussion? Amazing! Unprecedented!

[orchid spruce]

i'm surprised #sk-discussion just generally universally praises nine sols

someday, there'll be pushback but we dominate until then

[zinc wharf]

I did it.
I beat the Conch Quartet hitless.

[cursive pagoda]

500 broodmothers

[delicate ice]

https://youtu.be/uJQLT8ouftU?si=1qPGKkiQSeO4E4fO

[normal bramble]

For a second I thought that was the same person as the phantom mod

[zinc wharf]

Is this meant to be an accusation or a compliment?

[versed pollen]

Trying to identify what's going on in this gif

[plucky stag]

i haven't finished mio yet so i can't give a rating

[zinc wharf]

Cat presses a button and alters the screen a bit.

[plucky stag]

but if i had to forecast my rating (like how a weatherman predicts the weather) i'd say 9/10

[versed pollen]

Seems like a surface level discussion

[plucky stag]

but of course the weather report is never 100% accurate but it's at least an educated projection

[versed pollen]

Specifically it appears they manage to click a keyboard shortcut that launches an application. My first thought it another terminal window, but this one has a white background

[zinc wharf]

You turned them into the Radiance, how could you???

[undone gate]

Rune Rage doing something useful is crazy

[exotic dome]

it works at every rainy wednesday at 9:23 pm

[zinc wharf]

Oh yeah also I did this with my last batch of Flintslate, I had 1 shell shard remaining.

[compact cargo]

@grizzled plank are you

[orchid spruce]

hmm, imo, the game enjoyment peaked at midgame, so if you're past that point and stuck at a 9/10 then it might only go down

[plucky stag]

i don't know if i'm at the midgame yet

but i do plan on going for true ending because i was spoiled that was a thing from being here

[orchid spruce]

[plucky stag]

i tend to as much as possible shield myself from knowing the length of the game

[graceful oyster]

Unfortunately MIO is only 15 hours

[plucky stag]

i must suck then because i'm on 14 hours

and it doesn't feel like the endgame at all

[fiery burrow]

First playthrough took uhh || 27 || for me

[exotic dome]

i swear it's longer

[cursive pagoda]

six

[graceful oyster]

Say when

[plucky stag]

but this is a pattern that extends to all the games i play

silksong took me 170 hours to 100% complete

[fiery burrow]

3 playthroughs in and I'm on ||50|| though fr

[graceful oyster]

||I'm lying btw, the game takes ~30-40||

[orchid spruce]

MIO took me about ||50|| hours, still haven't 100%

[graceful oyster]

Guys he said he tried to shelter himself from lengths of games

[orchid spruce]

Then what are we yapping about playtime for

[exotic dome]

i didnt see it sorry

[graceful oyster]

It was a joke

[orchid spruce]

[graceful oyster]

I assumed he was somewhere around 15 in

And he was

[exotic dome]

we fell for the bait

:stupid_yi:

[orchid spruce]

I explored a lot on my own so it took a lot of time

Most of that ||involved wandering around pointlessly||

[latent terrace]

Okay I think I might be trashing on Bilewater too hard

It's not... As Blight town as I expected

My opinion would change though, idk

[plucky stag]

thanks for respecting my wishes

but in reality i feel i should break this habit for some games; sometimes it doesn't matter if you know how long a game is before you play it

but in some games it absolutely does

[mental snow]

I hate that the brightness setting only pertains to when you're in the overworld. Not in animated cutscenes or menus, JUST the overworld.

Not even the fucking UI

[exotic dome]

bilewater is good

only downside is the boss imo

[mental snow]

Eh, the platforming that takes up the majority of its exploration is kinda annoying, in my opinion.

[hoary wadi]

Is it just me or does muckroach look like SCP 682

[mental snow]

No no, you got a point

Just a few details off from being identical

[lapis pond]

Y'all know the best strat to ||flea juggling? I'm using shaman crest and long claw||

[mental snow]

All tools are disabled during Flea Minigames (yes, ALL tools), so Longclaw is worthless. My recommendation would be Hunter's Crest since it swings faster than Shaman, and Shaman can't really keep up past 60 with its attack speed.

Wanderer's Crest if you're going for a high score.

[lapis pond]

😔

I can't even make it past 10

[normal bramble]

I just did hunters and counted out every single bounce

[rough anvil]

WHAT

NOT PAST 10

[normal bramble]

Got 2 above Seth’s scores and was happy to never play again

[mental snow]

How many did you get?

[normal bramble]

I hate bounce

[mental snow]

I mean he's using Shaman. The attack speed is horrendous.

[normal bramble]

My record on dodge is 149 and on bounce 210

But I never touched juggle again

[mental snow]

My personal bests in each minigame is 134 in Juggle, 171 in Dodge, and 706 in Bounce

[rough anvil]

Kratt so fugly he was fed with a slingshot when he was a baby

[lapis pond]

Idk how to react to that

[mental snow]

Honestly, Shaman Crest trivializes Bounce, it's just hard keeping yourself active enough to effectively stall yourself in the air between each flea

[twin summit]

sounds like a frog

[mental snow]

https://youtu.be/u3O6kCwngEA

[lapis pond]

||So hunter for juggling||

[mental snow]

Might wanna practice with Wanderer my dude, it's goated

[mental snow]

Also you don't need to spoiler stuff here if you don't want to, everything's allowed

It's just the help channels that do

[mental snow]

Hunter if ya wanna have a better time hitting them, Wanderer if you wanna get higher scores

[lapis pond]

Oh

I'm just trying to get the last upgrade

[mental snow]

Then yeah, Hunter would be easier

Okay Team Cherry HAS to fix the brightness not affecting everything

I don't wanna be fucking flashbanged every time I get something important if I WANT my brightness lower

[plucky stag]

how rusty am i going to be when i return to this game in a few weeks

[mental snow]

If I could just entirely remove the race of Craws as an entirety, I would do it without a second thought.

I despise them. More than Primal Aspids, more than Bilewater and Putrified Ducts in their entirety, I hate them.

[plucky stag]

i haven't touched this game since i defeated lost lace on october 25th

[mental snow]

Eh, considering that, there won't be much to shake off coming back to it.

Just maybe 10 or so minutes to readjust yourself.

[plucky stag]

there is some truth to that

[mental snow]

Give or take

[plucky stag]

i recently replayed celeste after 4 years and it didn't take me long to get my skill back

[dull ermine]

beast is the best for juggling

[plucky stag]

but that was something i just did for pi day this year

[mental snow]

Celeste is goated

[dull ermine]

it's overrated but solid game

[mental snow]

That's only if you're concerned with the amount of area you cover

Wanderer is the best if you're accurate and fast

[rocky jolt]

another indie platformer smh

wow and 2d too... damn...

[dull ermine]

not really, also a faster attack speed isn't really that more useful

[mental snow]

Brother (gender neutral), I can assure you, yes it is

[dull ermine]

the biggest thing is just that wanderers has a small hitbox

[mental snow]

I did say accurate
Hard to use, easy to master

[dull ermine]

well we're talking about which one is best

beast is easy to use and easy to master (in juggling) comparatively

[mental snow]

For highest score purposes, it'd be Wanderer
For cleaning the score requirements, I suppose it'd be Beast

[dull ermine]

all the world record jugglers use beast

[mental snow]

And this isn't a "I'm shitting on Beast because I hate it", I just don't see the value in the area it covers

Actually

I guess I didn't account for hitting multiple fleas at once...

[lucid trellis]

shawman?

[dull ermine]

also on this note

[mental snow]

Just bad for it in general

[lucid trellis]

juggling?

[mental snow]

Yeah the range on Shaman is nice but it doesn't keep up past 60

[dull ermine]

celeste is a 7/10, silksong is a 9.1/10 imo

[lucid trellis]

whats good for juggling?

[dull ermine]

this is not true

[mental snow]

Hunter, Wanderer and Beast

[plucky stag]

only a 7/10?

[mental snow]

Like top three imo

[plucky stag]

all opinions about games are respected but i'd like to know why

[lucid trellis]

wanderer? I mean, i get the faster attack but the range, i was expecting like, witch or something

[mental snow]

I feel like we really diminish how high 7/10 really is

[dull ermine]

1. celestes story, imo was really buns and it had bad/cringe cutscenes don't flame me

2. gameplay is really repetitive, obviously it's a platformer but this is more of a personal taste

[mental snow]

I got 134 with Wanderer, and I coulda gone way higher if I hadn't choked those first two losses (they were preventable, I was just not paying attention)

[dull ermine]

i've beaten celeste 100% tho

[mental snow]

1.) I mean I guess that's fair, but I just disagree with that

2.) Yeah... yeah. That's 100% fair lmao

[lucid trellis]

jeez ok, ill use wanderer then, just need to beat pogo

[plucky stag]

in fairness i also have games that a lot of people glaze but didn't strike a chord with me

[mental snow]

I mean I wasn't saying "just use Wanderer, stupid", I was just defending my stance

[lucid trellis]

any tips?

[plucky stag]

yume nikki is one people like but i kinda got bored of it after a while

[dull ermine]

and there's many metrics a game can improve on, celeste wasn't perfect on the elements everyone glazes about

[plucky stag]

i still appreciate the influence it has over a lot of games today

[lucid trellis]

I meant jeez as in: how the fuck did you get to 134

[dull ermine]

a 7/10 is still pretty good though, I love the movement brought from supers and wavedashes

[plucky stag]

yume nikki is more like an experimental arthouse film that while it may seem weird and trippy influenced many great games over the years

[mental snow]

Don't be afraid to side-slash a flea if you can't get under them in time, only use your dash in bursts unless the flea is REALLY far away, and uhhhh FOCUS. PUMP UP YOUR BLOOD, GET INTO IT. DON'T DROP THAT GAZE FOR A SECOND.

[mental snow]

https://youtu.be/u3O6kCwngEA

[mental snow]

I mean that last part to 110% of its meaning. Do not slow down for a second. As soon as you do, you're gonna drop the ball.

(Exaggerating of course, but still)

I've tried to beat this record (seriously, it fucking sucks how early I dropped the first two), but no luck (I have really shitty attention span)

[cerulean sable]

is GMS ontologically evil (i do not understand the word but using it makes me feel smart)

[gray grotto]

gahhh, widow is really giving me a run for my money

[mental snow]

Oh come on, horn-y is "language"?

I meant it as a stupid nickname for Hornet

[lucid trellis]

what deos side slahsing do?

[lucid trellis]

phase 2 bell spam?

[mental snow]

It sends fleas the direction you slash in, whereas up slashes send fleas towards the middle of the stage

[violet canopy]

Hey can I get some act 2 endings before moving on to act 3?

[cunning geode]

her very existence

[mental snow]

You can get both of them before going to Act 3

[normal bramble]

You can get all of them

[gray grotto]

yup

[normal bramble]

As long as you didn’t get witch crest

[lucid trellis]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xVlOWn4q9rc&pp=ygUVd2lkb3cgY2hlZXNlIHNpbGtzb25n

[violet canopy]

Nope don’t have that

[normal bramble]

Even if you did silk and soul you get the option to go to act 3 or do regular ending

[gray grotto]

i don't wanna cheese it

[violet canopy]

I only have worm ways left to explore, if it’s not there should be fine

[lucid trellis]

good fuckin luck

[violet canopy]

Anything specific I need to do for the endings?

[gray grotto]

am i wrong for wanting to do it normally??

[normal bramble]

You need to beat the game regularly in act 2

[mental snow]

Not hating on anyone that does this, but this genuinely looks stupid (yes I know it works and is 100% viable)

[normal bramble]

And for other you need to get the twisted bud from bilewater

(Well it’s in bilewater but you find it from entering from the vaults)

Then give it to the grey root lady in shellwood and then beat gms while cursed

[gray grotto]

does anyone have tips on how to do the widow 2nd phase normally?

[violet canopy]

Alright thanks

I’m confused tho, I thought beating the game normally takes me to act 3

[normal bramble]

No

[rich pagoda]

Heheheee
I discovered the Architect Crest. My warcrimes are now unstoppable

[normal bramble]

Act 3 requires the completion of a very specific quest

Aka silk and soul

[violet canopy]

Damn how do I do that?

[mental snow]

You'll only have time to get about 2-3 hits on Widow when she spawns, then immediately run to a safe spot and wait for the bells to pass. If Widow charges at you, immediately pogo her, even if the bell hits you. Better 1 mask than 2 dealt.

Make sure to use Silkspear every chance you get. It's great damage, unless you're at 2-3 masks lost, then just focus on healing.

[lucid trellis]

tip: get the theifs mark and know the grand reed grinding spot, it's basically mandatory for architect

[mental snow]

I'd recommend Warding Bell and Fractured Mask (if you managed to find Fractured Mask)

If not, then Druid's Eye works, too.

[lucid trellis]

Also the bellhart merchant will be your best freind for her infinite (50 rosary) shard bundles

[rich pagoda]

Grand reed?
I've just been grinding rosaries in the Choral Chambers to buy shell shard bundles lmao

[mental snow]

Have you been killing the guys next to Songclave that deal double damage?

[rich pagoda]

No

Just the guys in the room near the Grand Bellway

[mental snow]

Well they drop the most Rosaries per run. There are 3 in a hallway, and they drop around 100 Rosaries in total (165 if you have the Thief's Mark)

[keen narwhal]

grinding for rosaries is not meta just explore and youll get a bunch

[mental snow]

I don't remember the exact amount they drop per kill without the Thief's Mark

[normal bramble]

Find 22 fleas and move the fleas to fleatopia, complete basically every other billboard quest, talk to caretaker when all that is done

[keen narwhal]

probably

[mental snow]

See, that is, until you get to Act 2, when Grindle and Jubilana run you dry

[normal bramble]

Then he’ll give you silk and soul

[violet canopy]

Did that already

[lucid trellis]

4 grand reeds outside of songclave in the long hallway, 55 rosaries each with msrk, menaing 220 per run, or if yoh dorn eant to change rooms 165, a shard bundle is 50 roasaries, youll need 1500 roasries to fully fill up shards and have the 10 extra bundles if yoh have full upgrades

[normal bramble]

Oh then just bind gms instead of needolin

[violet canopy]

I didn’t every quest that appeared on the boards in bone bottom, bellhart and first shrine

[normal bramble]

For regular ending

[remote talon]

is she implying i rizzed her up

[normal bramble]

Oh then that’s a requirement

[rich pagoda]

See that'd work if I wasn't uhm
Stupid and die a lot
And also addicted to spamming tools which cost shell shards
So no
I do have to grind rosaries

[mental snow]

The fuck you mean 4

There's three per room

[normal bramble]

Don’t forget Frey

[lucid trellis]

Oh, my bad

[mental snow]

Who was that again

[normal bramble]

Bellhart

[mental snow]

Ohhh

Right, the fuckin Bellhome accessories

[normal bramble]

Yup

1.3k for a spa 💔

(Worth it but god damn)

[violet canopy]

What does that mean? It’s like the choices u make while fighting the hollow knight in hk?

[mental snow]

1300 for a fucking spa (doesn't even restore silk)

[lucid trellis]

I know all of this because i have probably killed about 300 grand reeds

[normal bramble]

You get a prompt at the end of the final fight

[rich pagoda]

Good to know
I'll get to committing acts of murder on them then. Probably switch to Hunter Crest for them so I can spell blast them for no shards cost lol.

[lucid trellis]

I love being an arc main

[normal bramble]

If you’ve done silk and soul you’ll get two

[lucid trellis]

wanderer worked best for me

[normal bramble]

The first is regular ending the second is act 3

[mental snow]

Honestly grinding Grand Reeds is basically a must if you don't wanna go around the entirety of Pharloom, scrounging Relics and Psalm Cylinders that ultimately probably won't even be enough

[violet canopy]

Alright thanks I’ll notice that

[rich pagoda]

I am emotionally attached to the diagonal pogo

[normal bramble]

So ya kinda like the prompt at the end of HK (but a lot less missable since HORNET DOESNT CREATE A 0.2 SECOND OPENING)

(I did the fight earlier today and missed the dream nail opening the first time.)

[violet canopy]

Btw, can I get the other endings after going into act 3?

[mental snow]

Some relics and one of the Psalm Cylinders isn't even available until fuckin Act 3, when Grand Reed farming is horrendously gutted, because 2 of them are permanently dead in one of the rooms

[rich pagoda]

It's also why I do not like Reaper Crest
I don't like the pogo. I love the diagonal.

[normal bramble]

No

[violet canopy]

Damn

[lucid trellis]

in act 3 the 3 morticans in whiteward deop 52 each with mark, meanifn 156 per run, this is vetter wince the grand reeds are only 110 per run since most of them fucking died

[violet canopy]

That cursed one sounds shit

[normal bramble]

Yup!

[normal bramble]

It’s honestly not as hard as it sounds

No tools bind or silk skills

[rich pagoda]

Architect crest is like
Close enough to the original diagonal pogo that I have been able to adjust to it

[mental snow]

The fucking who

[normal bramble]

But it sounds so much more horrifying then reality

[mental snow]

The big guys with the swords or?

[normal bramble]

There’s a better run actually

[mental snow]

Like the guys that swing at you while moving

[rich pagoda]

I'm still in act 2 so no morticians for me yet

[normal bramble]

If you go into the room where you find Sherma

[normal bramble]

2 surgeons always spawn in act 3

[mental snow]

Yeah I was right

I should've guessed actually, no other Whiteward enemy drops rosaries

[lucid trellis]

thats only 76 plus i dont want to use shards and its not close enough to the bench

[normal bramble]

They drop 75 with thief mark with a roughly 14 seconds between each 75

[rich pagoda]

I killed some of those guys earlier today
They're alright
I'd rather spam tacks though

Not an enemy I wanna fight without tools

[normal bramble]

Yes but they infinitely respawn and die to just a few strikes of max focus hunters or an architects drill

[lucid trellis]

they die with 1 l3 needle shaman + filiment cross stitch

[normal bramble]

You can do the whole run in seconds

[lucid trellis]

i have a L2 needle

[normal bramble]

Uh then that’s unfortunate

[lucid trellis]

hence why im dojng the flea games

[normal bramble]

I had my needle maxed before I brought out the 3 grand thief’s

[rich pagoda]

I have my needle upgraded... once. I have a skill issue with the curriers rasher

[normal bramble]

Actually I had my needle maxed before I even touched their shops

[mental snow]

There's a Pale Ore you can find by just exploring

[coarse berry]

team cherry saw the flower quest and was like ok lets just do it again but harder

[mental snow]

Can't remember where for the life of me

[lucid trellis]

sorry L3 needle

[normal bramble]

Vaults left when you enter

Or smth like that

[lucid trellis]

still not good for act 3

[rich pagoda]

I've been surviving by throwing sharp objects at the skulls of anything mildly threatening because I'm on upgrade 3 of tool damage and 2 of capacity

[mental snow]

I mean "harder" is relative

You can take 6 hits, but the DoT to the rasher is kinda cruel

[rich pagoda]

Panic fling pointy objects

[normal bramble]

Flower quest was way worse then rashier imo

[lucid trellis]

so, uh, working on flea games rn, and plan to switch to the food thing aftwe

[coarse berry]

courier's rasher took me more attempts than flower quest but maybe that's jsut me

[rich pagoda]

When in doubt? Apply more spikes.

[normal bramble]

No time limit on flower quest but I failed it like 5 times

Courier rashier I did second try

[gray grotto]

do you know how many normal slashes of damage the spear does?

[normal bramble]

3

[quartz cave]

https://tenor.com/view/dennis-whitaker-the-pitt-dennis-whitaker-the-pitt-bubblearchives-dennis-gif-4304457845753524221

hello homosexuals

[gray grotto]

was this to me?

[normal bramble]

Ya

[gray grotto]

ty

i just had the most bs 1st phase ever dude

[quartz cave]

who ❌ reacted me cant i say hi anymore

[normal bramble]

Hola

[normal bramble]

Oh id like to just give a tip, you can hit the bells as they fall

[quartz cave]

also why is he spinning i didnt spin him

[normal bramble]

To knock them away

[quartz cave]

who spun him 💔

[normal bramble]

Helpful for some of them

Also she always does her dash after uhhh 3 (if I remember correctly) bell drops in phase 2

[lucid trellis]

Jesus you only have 6 minutes to do rasher?

[lapis pond]

Silksong just closed on me

[rich pagoda]

I think the issue with it is that in Silksong more enemies respawn on screen transitions
And some are quite annoying.

[normal bramble]

It’s 6 minutes???

It feels like so so much left

[lapis pond]

I'm trying to unlock every secret path and room😭

[normal bramble]

There’s none on the rashier route

[lucid trellis]

(47 * 8)/60

[normal bramble]

Thankfully

Through grand gate you can actually clear out every enemy on your run

[rich pagoda]

Really? I could have been clearing these farts and then running it???

[normal bramble]

Yes

You can genuinely kill basically every single enemy then just run it

[rich pagoda]

Have I mentioned that I'm really stupid?

[normal bramble]

Dw I didn’t realize that until after I did it 😭

I ran it and got hit twice and barely made it while stressing

The item was like at its last % of durability

When I gave it to the guy

[rich pagoda]

The extent of my brainpower is used to figure out how to best spam more pointy objects aimed at my enemies

[gray grotto]

i keep getting locked into the phase 1 finish, then getting hit by bells

i can't avoid it

[rich pagoda]

Enemy flies? Chuck needles at it. Throw more pointy objects. Throw a boomerang. Clawline at them and smack them in the face.
Enemy on the ground? Tacks. Apply tacks. Apply more tacks. Apply MORE TACKS.

[normal bramble]

Honestly outstanding strategy

Works for near everything

[rich pagoda]

The solution is warcrimes

[lapis pond]

BROOOI

I didn't know there was a secret bench in bile water

Plus a short cut

I actually hate this game

[normal bramble]

It’s Well hidden

[lapis pond]

Ya

[normal bramble]

Evilly so lmao

[lapis pond]

I'm already in act 3 I beat groal a while ago

[lucid trellis]

is rasher like, actually possible to do that fast?

[normal bramble]

Yes through every single route

[loud kite]

remember to stay hydrated

[normal bramble]

There’s a video of someone doing rasher from the abyss

[lucid trellis]

how???

[obtuse peak]

Is it still possible to get Sharpdart in Act 1? I know it used to be possible with the super high beast crest jump that got patched, and I'm struggling to use the healstall method. I'm on latest patch.

[normal bramble]

Clawline and a lot of dashing

[lucid trellis]

it seems impossible to go that way that fast

[normal bramble]

There’s a lot of ways

The way I did it was through sinners road through exhaust organ run to the room

The much much easier way is shellwood blasted steps grand gate choral chambers shortcut into the room

The psychopaths way is greymoor wisp thicket underworks chamber

I wonder if it’s possible to do greymoor sinners road bilewater ducts memorium choral chambers

[rich pagoda]

Additional point on the strategy relevant to Architect:
When you run outta tacks and pointy things to shove in a poor bug's cranium and feet, just make more by giving them a lobotomy using that drill needle attack 🫠
I love the way the architect attacks look. Delightfully brutal.

[normal bramble]

Never used it much honestly I always preferred hunters and witch

Though I also didn’t use red tools much until I discovered voltvessels curveclaw (which was at the very end of the game for me…)

[tacit relic]

Can someone help me?

I'm using cogfly.

[silk pumice]

whats the issue?

[normal bramble]

? With wha

[tacit relic]

What's the name of the mod that lets me fight the same bosses again?

[silk pumice]

pantheon of pharloom

[normal bramble]

^

[tacit relic]

Ohh.

Thanks!!

[silk pumice]

ofc

[normal bramble]

I wonder what bosses we’ll get in silksong dlc

[rich pagoda]

I do like Hunters crest. I used it for most of the game up to this point. I also fell in love with using tools pretty early in though. Might just be because I'm Canadian and the red tools smell like warcrimes.

[normal bramble]

That’s honestly what I’m most excited for

[lucid trellis]

how do you do it tha fast tho

[normal bramble]

Clawline and dash through shellwood which is just a straight line

Platform up to the bellway

Faydown makes it a lot easier and faster

[hallow heron]

I went through the spa area

[normal bramble]

Last judge runback

Choral chamber shortcut is really easy to get to with faydown a bit more annoying without it

Then its just a run through chambers

You can clear out near every enemy on the way so

[rich pagoda]

I love the clawline so much

[normal bramble]

Oh also you can throw on silkspeed anklets and flea brew

If you ever feel too slow

(But you needa make sure to not bump into stuff)

[cerulean sable]

TLJ is top tier run back

its just flow

close second is the Coral Twins

BW is less of a flow so its not as good imo

[normal bramble]

My favorite runback is the phantom run back

[tacit relic]

How do I use the mod?

[silk pumice]

press b

[tacit relic]

I'm a little confused.

[normal bramble]

Unfortunately not a runback you really gotta do…

Buttttt if you do die to them you do the whole thing knowing their playing the background music

[cerulean sable]

The Mist > Phantom

[rich pagoda]

The Last Judge has an awesome runback, I agree
Great fight too tho

[normal bramble]

The mist = phantom

[rich pagoda]

That's when I started to really understand the power and potential of red tools. There's a lot of openings for throwing projectiles tbh

[normal bramble]

They’re really just two parts to the same song

[violet canopy]

Damn I don’t get anything for beating Shakra?

Annoying ass fight too

[normal bramble]

A journal entry and her respect

That’s pretty much it

[still osprey]

I love Shakra

[normal bramble]

She’s SO much cooler then cornifer

[cerulean sable]

oh no i was saying the transition from Mist to Phantom

[violet canopy]

Took me time to catch it on when ti attack

[pseudo drift]

Hey people. I've 100%ed silksong, I've done basically everything there is to do, are there any mods I can try besides boss rushes and enemy randomizers?

[normal bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/shakra-hornet-hollow-knight-silksong-poshanka-gif-13569590462274981095

[violet canopy]

She moving around so much

[normal bramble]

Oh lmao

[violet canopy]

Punish windows are super small

[normal bramble]

Mb

[plucky stag]

there might be custom bosses but i am not in the modding scene

[violet canopy]

I just went super aggressive and heavy on pogo

[rich pagoda]

I find it hilarious that Savage Beastfly flies low enough to the ground to trigger tacks repeatedly
He's my next tacks victim.

[tacit relic]

I didn't expect shakra to jump me like that.

[fathom iris]

finally beat steel soul, trying steel heart now 🥹

[pseudo drift]

Do you know any?

[normal bramble]

I find it funny she doesn’t go nearly as hard in any arena as she does in a friendly duel against you

[plucky stag]

no but i've seen videos on youtube

[pseudo drift]

What the hell is steel heart

[lucid trellis]

is flea brew alcoholic?

[normal bramble]

100% Steelsoul achievement

[pseudo drift]

Thanks

[still osprey]

Awakened Grand Mother Silk is a really good vanilla-difficulty modded boss

[fathom iris]

100% the game in steel soul

[still osprey]

I'd highly recommend checking it out

[pseudo drift]

No 😭

[violet canopy]

Oh god man and when she joined I was so happy I fought brain dead and almost died lol

[normal bramble]

Awk gms, also silken sisters is one I really do hope to see in pantheons and is a cool mod

[fathom iris]

nah I mean its the achievement for doing allat

[normal bramble]

Just phantom and lace 2 as a fight

[pseudo drift]

Wiw

Sounds cool

[pseudo drift]

I only have 4 achievements left, the 5 hour one, the 100% in 30 hours and all the steel soul ones

I'm not doing those 😭

[lucid trellis]

pinsteess battle but after defeat her seamstress floats down and they both curve stomp your ass

[still osprey]

Lost and Chained is also extremely good but I can't speak on its difficulty since I haven't played it yet, tho it doesn't look too hard?

[normal bramble]

I HATE the idea of double pinstress

[pseudo drift]

Woah, how do you type that cool text

[normal bramble]

Mostly because I hate pinstress’s fight

[fathom iris]

the 100% in 30 hours thing is so overrated, I got it without realising on my second play through 🥹 but I found the 5 hour one pretty hard

[still osprey]

*like this*

[pseudo drift]

Just another me fr

[twin summit]

-# holy larper

[proven roost]

any tips for cursed gms?

[normal bramble]

I like pinstress as a character

But damn that fight is lame

[lucid trellis]

Also a 1st 2nd and 3rd chours triplle fight

[pseudo drift]

You sure? I'll try but I'm horid at act 2 idk why 😭

[pseudo drift]

????

[fathom iris]

take your time, gms is pretty slow

[rich pagoda]

Problem: Stupid Bug.
Solution: I have decided that the room will now look like it's a modded Celeste map with how many spikes will be placed.

[fathom iris]

[lucid trellis]

a second sent + dancers fight

[twin summit]

you can use '*' so surround text

[pseudo drift]

Try using the cocoon to damage her a bit at the beggining of the fight, she has to be close to it when you break it

[lucid trellis]

-# hello

_ _

[twin summit]

hi

[normal bramble]

Clawline

[proven roost]

the cocoon deals damage???

[normal bramble]

ALOT of Clawline

[pseudo drift]

I didn't fucking know that 👁️👁️

[rich pagoda]

Clawline my beloved

[lucid trellis]

||_ _||

[pseudo drift]

Yeah it does, not much but, eh, it's damage

[normal bramble]

The more you Clawline the better you’re doing imo

(I adore Clawline)

[twin summit]

whole lotta nothing

[fathom iris]

true

[lucid trellis]

_ _

_ _

[pseudo drift]

I LOVE the beast crest it actually has the highest skill ceilidh out of all the crests and it's the most skilled and arguably the best when used perfectly

It's just such a good crest

[lucid trellis]

propaganda

[floral delta]

Ramona Flowers PFP

[fathom iris]

bru its 5 am I gotta get to sleep

[pseudo drift]

I love the extra sound effects for hornet when she's angry, and also love the red atack animation

[rich pagoda]

Took me a while to figure out how to use clawline in combat but it entirely changed the game for me and made flying lil shits less awful
Flying lil shits is why I started using red tools to delete them from afar lol
I didn't have a good solution

[normal bramble]

Okay, so quick question. I'm doing the Unravelled gauntlet, but I'm using architect crest because I'm struggling with the others. How exactly does it work? It says I can use my silk to craft extra tools, but I don't know how to do that?

[lucid trellis]

if it didn't suck ass to get i may try it

[normal bramble]

Hold up while binding

[floral delta]

Hi Ramona

[low vine]

yo, what if other silksong crests had evolutions

Like for instance, first evo of beast crest grants it fallen fury effects (1hp power boost)

Then the second one just increases damage output as health decreases (but somewhat marginal tho)

One might ask: why use any other crest atp

Well it’s because Beast is ass at pogoing

[normal bramble]

(Still uses shell shards however refresh’s all tools)

[normal bramble]

Thank you so much

[floral delta]

Beast pogo is fine choom

[low vine]

It’s fking sonic spindash

[lucid trellis]

for unwraveled get druids eyes, band, and wanderer and just damage tank it

[floral delta]

Which is good in combat

Who is using beast for everyday travel

[low vine]

Sure tho

[leaden delta]

like that’s cool but no other crests needs evolutions lol

[low vine]

Exactly

[low vine]

Hunter is the only crest with an evo

[normal bramble]

Beast doesn’t need anything

It already has the highest dps of every crest

[leaden delta]

the reason hunter specifically gets it is because it starts basic and weak

[low vine]

Prolly other crests (it’s just an example lmao)

[floral delta]

Gng you say exactly and then just make it better at combat instead of changing it's bad travel pogo

[normal bramble]

You can just face tank stuff

[lucid trellis]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GUsXRgFuiGE&pp=iggCQAE%3D

[normal bramble]

No other crest really needs an evo

[leaden delta]

however evos for other crests would be cool, unfair as that would be for hunter

[normal bramble]

Except maybe reaper.

Albeit crest upscales would be crest upscales

[leaden delta]

it just feels like something tc would need to be unique in for each crest which is maybe hard

[rich pagoda]

I consume shell shards happily because they are infinite and technically free if you want to do some grinding c:
Seems like a good trade off for so much more tool spam

[normal bramble]

Architect buffs

[pseudo drift]

I love the beast crest, when the screen turns red, and all the sound effects of angry hornet play as you atack. And when she stands still while using the beast crest bind she has an animation of rapid breathing to show that she's trying to breathe but due to her movement and energy she can't respire rapidly and causes her body to do anaerobic respiration which causes glucose to turn into lactic acid, maybe lactic acid in the hollow knight universe is red, and the red on her weapon is just that acid that deals extra damage

[lucid trellis]

-20% shard repair cost

[normal bramble]

Actually how in the world WOULD you do an architect upgrade??!

[normal bramble]

I guess

[rich pagoda]

More tool damage. Ehehehe

[normal bramble]

Just make tool spamming that much more rosary effective

[floral delta]

https://tenor.com/view/jigsaw-tweaking-jigsaw-gif-9771344477130696767

[normal bramble]

Wanderers increase the crit chance

[lucid trellis]

• tool damage
• top capacity
  _ _ - shards needed to repair
• craftbind heals

[low vine]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-writing-fire-his-writing-is-fire-is-this-fire-hold-up-gif-15400153686296022809

[normal bramble]

Witch crest -> buff the damage of bind even further

Cause why not

[floral delta]

Turbonuclear

[normal bramble]

Just make the tactical nuke even more explosive

[pseudo drift]

Thank you, thank you

[light swan]

witch gets more multi hits

[lucid trellis]

if they made craftbind heal arc would be unstoppable

[rich pagoda]

Look
Team Cherry gave us a pile of evil war crimes to pull from and commit against Pharloom
I'm just saying that buffing the damage would be fun.

[lucid trellis]

witch healing now scales with amount of enemies hit

[twin summit]

now?

[lucid trellis]

theoretically

[twin summit]

i thought it was always like that

[lucid trellis]

it should

[normal bramble]

For shaman increase silk skill damage and decrease silk cost cause why not

[lucid trellis]

become emporer palpatine

[normal bramble]

Uh reaper

Uh….

[light swan]

more silk obviously

[lucid trellis]

arc has like 4 choices: more tool dmg, more tool capacity, less shells to repair tools, healing craft bind

[low vine]

Why didn’t team Cherry make an April fools update for silksong

[normal bramble]

I guess

[low vine]

Like for instance: adding a tool called “Nuclear Bomb”

[normal bramble]

April fools update : infinite beast flies

The beast fly fights never actually end

And instead 2 respawn for every 1 you kill

[lucid trellis]

Personally i would love less shards

[normal bramble]

Oh also all wraiths in mist instantly aggro

No more waiting for you to get in range

[lucid trellis]

Mitosis fly

[low vine]

April fools update: architect’s nightmare
Added new tools:

• nuclear bombs
• cogbeastflies
• voltgrenades
• throwable shell shards
• cortisol phial

[normal bramble]

They are all immediately active

Their dash is also now instant

And steals all your silk instead of just 3

Also can no longer be hit

They no longer do dmg

[rich pagoda]

Maybe a Needolin buff?
Needolin costs no silk to use, and has a faster animation with the intention of reaping enemy silk from enemies nearby
Filling the function of Dreamnail/Dreamwielder in HK

I know a tool exists that does some of that tho

[normal bramble]

So now the mist becomes

10 immortal wraiths grabbing you every second however never killing you

[low vine]

Cortisol Spike

[rich pagoda]

But that's my suggestion for a reaper upgrade with my minimal knowledge of the impacts of that

[split lodge]

nah I think everyone will abuse TF out of this with spider strings + wispfire lantern + weavelight

[latent terrace]

I can't believe I first tried Groal

[low vine]

April fools update concept: architect’s nightmare

new tools:

• nuclear bombs
• cog beast flies (savage beast fly but cogfly)
• voltgrenades (double the volt explosion)
• throwable shell shards
• cortisol phial (causes hornet to get a cortisol spike and go beast crest fury)

[split lodge]

I see this as an absolute win

[latent terrace]

His sucking me in for an invite

[rich pagoda]

Ok? So it makes Reaper actually good and cool? Because right now I think it's kinda stinky

[latent terrace]

How could I resist?

[split lodge]

This’d work on any crest except witch lmao but it’d make bossfights a non issue

[cursive pagoda]

beastlings

[split lodge]

If the muckmaggots sap hornet’s silk and silk is spun inside of hornet how are they doing it

[low vine]

They leech at Hornet

[cursive pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-baby-bell-beast-bell-baby-cute-creature-gif-10563098258469438151

[rich pagoda]

Well Idk what else to do with it. I thought I'd suggest a more creative idea. I miss landing mid fight dream nails for soul to fuel spell spam in HK.

[cerulean sable]

hornet should have Great Magic Weapon

she already has Charcoal Pine Resin (Flintslate)

[rich pagoda]

It's satisfying to pull off yknow
Genuinely loved dreamnailing things to gain soul.

[split lodge]

To be fair I appreciate the combat being more distinct with more mobility options, red tools, and also much much lesser iframes

Also the fact that the stuff that’d hurt the knight for 1 mask hurts hornet for 2 is also kinda proof of how cracked the power of the void is

[split lodge]

But yes I too miss dreamnailing the watcher knights to farm soul before the fight starts

[rich pagoda]

I do also love the fluid, flowy and fast combat with the tools you can get. I'm just saying that a crest that's good at gathering extra silk should maybe have some extra ability to do that better? Maybe Reaper can have a bonus silk heart baked into the crest as an acquired upgrade so if you really want the silk regen build then there you go? That's probably more balanced.

Anywhoo
I was BOLD with my dreamnails. I'd dreamnail Oro and Mato. Sheo. Sly. Pure Vessel. Nobody was spared.

[violet canopy]

Found this hidden room in worm ways but it’s empty, do I need to get back here at some point?

[normal bramble]

I've been using poison cogflies, tacks, and the thing that lengthens your silk spool so I can just have one heal and tool respawn.

[normal bramble]

You can use the needolin

To see something

I'm pretty sure that was the guys lab assistant

[violet canopy]

I did it just heard some song

But nothing happened

[broken seal]

Come back in Act 3

[quartz cave]

i love this game

[tight viper]

Poison doesn’t work on the Unravelled

[cerulean sable]

they should make a Silksong rap

just like this classic for HK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At36RhsstRM

[broken seal]

Yeah it does, it just goes away whenever he dips underground

But pollip pouch is super ass regardless

[normal bramble]

Truth

[lament reef]

i just fought garmond and zaza for the first time

i was expecting a shakra level fight

[twin summit]

best boss fight oat

[lament reef]

i came so prepared bc i fought shakra in another save and she kicked my ass pretty hard

[weak depot]

Guy blindly swinging a flyswatter around

[lament reef]

legit bro lmao

[tight meadow]

not as bad for architect

[twin summit]

i fought with basically the max upgrades you could have, and i did it hitless in 10 seconds

[weak depot]

Checks out

[weak depot]

Map mommy is just cracked at combat

[lament reef]

yup i prepare specifically for him but i do have 8 masks and needle 3

the only hit they got on me was when they fell over and zaza fell on top of me lol

[lament reef]

real

[stable mica]

shakra fight is like fighting a mosquito

always teleport and doing the most annoying thing ever

being on the air 90% of tp and only linger for 0.5 sec

the few oppurtunities to hit is that 2 attack when she stays in the ground

[gray grotto]

I FINALLY BEAT WIDOW

[lament reef]

she must be one of the hardest single phase bosses for sure

[gray grotto]

i was on one mask, so I decided to needle throw, and it turned out that was the last hit

[lament reef]

finding the openings is really hard at first and if you're not prepared she'll just kill you with rings

[stable mica]

its more annoying than hard imo

the hit windows is so small and u spent 90% dogding

[stable mica]

gg

[remote talon]

what now

nothing happened

i sent a screenshot of the map

huh

idk bro

[timid sky]

Back down

You've done most of whats needed to do

[remote talon]

i went to the left

[timid sky]

You missed 2 benches btw

[remote talon]

for what
what do i need to do
what will i get
im just going up like the pinstress told me

it's the in game map

[timid sky]

Oh pinterest?

[remote talon]

yeah it's act 3

[timid sky]

She's in the room below the fayforn

Same room has a bench btw

[remote talon]

wheres the fayforn
(i edited the faydown cloak into my save when i was doing mount fay so i didnt get the fayforn)

skill issue i know

[minor sparrow]

on first playthough is kinda crazy but whatever you gotta do to enjoy the game

[timid sky]

At the peak

[remote talon]

isnt that where i fought pinterest

[timid sky]

no?

[minor sparrow]

no, pintress is below that

maybe you should go to sleep

[remote talon]

is it higher than the thingamajig on the map

💔

[silk pumice]

i saw that

[remote talon]

how the fuck did you mistype pm as mommy

[silk pumice]

that is something

[minor sparrow]

yeah, go to sleep

[silk pumice]

6am here for me

[minor sparrow]

just....turn it off

[remote talon]

so where do i go

its saturday

ohhhh its over there

[queen acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/992122184753479740/1486976441986846821/caption.gif

[graceful oyster]

@orchid spruce @light swan Done. I'm done. It's over. I did it.

I'm retiring forever

[queen acorn]

yes soggy cat said this

[graceful oyster]

Goodbye

[queen acorn]

what

[dapper geyser]

sea fo sorrow is out gus

guyss

woooo

[odd hull]

Hiii

[cursive pagoda]

no its not

[dapper geyser]

all in his mind gif

[remote talon]

i have 8 masks now :D

[brittle hill]

Is grandmother silk is the final boss? I’m on chapter 1 and I’ve heard there’s 2 more chapters so I’m kinda confused why I’m fighting her already

[spice cargo]

how are you act 1 and youre fighting gms?

can you send a picture

[vestal igloo]

this silk is song

[brittle hill]

Where can I see the chapter im on?

[still osprey]

You're in Act 2

[brittle hill]

I’m like really confused cuz I didn’t even unlocked all locations and sum of the areas are locked even though I’m supposed to be in the right chapter (like the locked bell in the deep docks)

[brittle hill]

How do I access act 3?

[undone gate]

There is a huge list of requirements for it

[still osprey]

just do as much as you can, complete wishes, collect fleas, the opportunity will show up eventually

[brittle hill]

Oh aight thx

[karmic trail]

i thought you patched this, but then you have stuff like this

[undone gate]

Why does Hornet look like young Hornet in that picture

[remote talon]

WHY DOES EVERYONE IN VERDANIA WANT TO FUCKING KILL ME

[remote talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1361513791111561319/1488750394061623416/togif.gif

[undone gate]

When is there a time where enemies don't want to kill you

[gray grotto]

i finally got the "original" pogo

this is so much better than going diagonal

[latent berry]

0oo okay im getting a little steamed right now over seeing all the discourse about phantom's pronouns right now so this is really more of a yell into the void for me thing but remember that team cherry went out of their way to correct a translation to use gender netural pronouns for phantom um so if that isn't like 'hey this character is nonbinary' cough ignoring literally all of the subtext surrounding them then i don't know what is

[weak widget]

Everyone any place in harpoon would generally enjoy killling you. But only when you’re offline.

[spice cargo]

the quest in act 2 is really easy, it just requires 3 things, but there is so much to explore, many bosses, gear upgrades, lore

[old raft]

can you parry high hall clappers

idt you can cuz i dont see any speedrunner parry them

[timid sky]

You definitely can but silkspear seems to work better in speedruns

It's higher damage output and easier to execute

[remote talon]

eepy

[rotund peak]

Parkour is so much more fun with any other crest tho

[keen solstice]

Oh trust me it's alot worse

Just easier because wider hitbox

[frosty light]

wait what was the translation quotation explanation

[plucky stag]

nice one

[orchid spruce]

[violet canopy]

Should I beat gms first before I do the silk and soul quest?

[orchid spruce]

Yes

There's an achievement

[violet canopy]

So matter of fact

[remote talon]

so i beat the palestag, but where to now

[violet canopy]

I should do the cursed ending too before silk and soul right?

[ocean quarry]

i still dunno how to skip the palestag lmao

[violet canopy]

And that’s it? Or there’s another ending before act 3

[odd hull]

Yes

[orchid spruce]

Continue until can find Green Prince

[ocean quarry]

but, do you not already have witch crest?

[violet canopy]

No

[ocean quarry]

then sure, go for cursed gms as well

before act 3

[odd hull]

Good luck btw

[violet canopy]

Alright thanks

[ocean quarry]

but like cursed gms is way harder than anything in act 3

so i could recommend just opening a new save file

[violet canopy]

That will cover all endings for act 2?

[remote talon]

if i die after killing palestag do i have to kill her again...

[graceful oyster]

Also it is under 4 minutes

[odd hull]

Yep

[low wasp]

This game has been out for so long and im still in act two

[graceful oyster]

Which is a small win, but it's a win

[ocean quarry]

good question actually

[ocean quarry]

i never died in verdania so idk

cogflies were "OP" back when i played verdania lol

i miss their hp regen so much

[remote talon]

well she's in my journal so maybe not?

[orchid spruce]

Next on the menu is Pacifist then Jadeless then Damageless then No-WASD

But I wouldn't want you to burn out

[ocean quarry]

just go back into the room to find out tbh

[graceful oyster]

(NINE SOLS FINAL BOSS)
Here is it if you want to watch but don't feel obligated

[orchid spruce]

So take it easy

[ocean quarry]

tf is "pacifist"

[orchid spruce]

Internal damage only + talisman only to phase transition

[odd hull]

no-WASD is insane

[ocean quarry]

uh is this silksong

[odd hull]

Nine Sols

[ocean quarry]

ah

the fraudvania

[graceful oyster]

Jadeless would be next

Damageless sounds boring

[remote talon]

its completely different now for some reason

[odd hull]

That is Lords of Shadow: Mirror of Fate, actually

[orchid spruce]

🔥

[graceful oyster]

But I will do it of course

[ocean quarry]

never even heard of that one

[orchid spruce]

"of course"

dude is eggrotten

[graceful oyster]

Words cannot describe my love for this boss

[odd hull]

Of course, it's a fraud.

[graceful oyster]

It's like PV all over again

But better

[odd hull]

2D platformer metroidvania where you take fall damage.

[ocean quarry]

fraudvania

[ocean quarry]

what the FUCK?!

[orchid spruce]

i'm done watching it

🥹 i'm so proud

[graceful oyster]

I understand my phase 3 is weak but I can't be bothered to optimize it rn

[odd hull]

Ikr

[graceful oyster]

I needed to get that hitless under my belt

[orchid spruce]

nah, enjoy the freedom of no-optimization when you can

nine sols optimization (speedkill) is actually pretty boring

[graceful oyster]

My first phases have gotten pretty good although I need to learn how to land more talismans

[exotic dome]

blasphemous 2 is done, i'll do 100% achievements if they don't require replaying

final boss was a joke

[ocean quarry]

who up blassing their twos

[orchid spruce]

crossup is an easy opportunity that you can start learning

[orchid spruce]

what did you think about peakterno

[exotic dome]

easily the best boss in the game

and one of the best in all mv

[orchid spruce]

PEAK

[exotic dome]

indeed absolute cinema

[odd hull]

daaamnn

[orchid spruce]

my top 3 is worthy

🥹

i knew my taste was sublime

[violet canopy]

What’s the difference between fighting gms normally and cursed?

[orchid spruce]

also, idk where you learned the names of the moves so i hope you understood what crossup is

[orchid spruce]

the difference is you, and the ending

[remote talon]

where do i go

[violet canopy]

Besides that it’s the same fight? I don’t get any abilities taken or something?

[tight viper]

play your needolin, follow the lights

[violet canopy]

Just wondering

[odd hull]

The cursed condition removes healing, using spells, tools and different moveset.

[violet canopy]

Oh ok

[exotic dome]

you can't heal, you can't use skills and tools

[timid sky]

Where is this in verdania

I've never seen this

[violet canopy]

And it’s with Hunter crest?

[orchid spruce]

is nine sols the next one, doggo

[tight viper]

This is what it looks like before getting enough memory orbs

[exotic dome]

tbere are little puzzles around verdania, do them and come back here

you collect orbs

[odd hull]

No, with the Cursed Crest.

[timid sky]

Oh

[exotic dome]

yea

[timid sky]

I've always gone there with all memory orbs

[exotic dome]

will be playing it next week probably

[orchid spruce]

prepare for peak