sk-discussion

[queen acorn]

i mean

[dense mist]

last time i tried steel soul in hk i died to the gauntlet before shade soul

[oblique tapir]

I used to be like this but then i played ALOT of hollow knight and now i'm 10x better at it 😭

Use leg eater charms if you haven't (specifically heart and strength)

I use it but i don't save and quit because i'm the best!

[blazing dragon]

I've returned to pantheons after my first playthrough of silksong (I played HK after SS was released lol and mostly haven't done dlc content)
and OMG Knight felt so slow after Hornet

[shy stratus]

btw i think healing in silksong is pretty broken, you can just wall jump and double jump in the top left/right of the arena and instant heal, bosses cant hit you. you dont even need to learn the pattern of certain bosses because you just spam attacks, if you lose at least 4 mask while doing so you run double jump and heal safe. thats the reason i prefer hk btw

[oblique tapir]

I remember using sprintmaster when i came back to 100% hk because of the effect silksong had on me 💔

[open bane]

time to go to the abyss

[blazing dragon]

I fought NKG and wish I had harpoon and mid-air heal xD

[queen acorn]

witch is a buff btw

[queen acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-egg-crack-gif-17965500839898910502

[blazing dragon]

may the Force be with you

[oblique tapir]

Quick focus helped me ALOT when beating nkg for the first time

[queen acorn]

negative hours in the game then

its the single highest damage output and the best crest dps wise i think so

[blazing dragon]

I guess I used it too, don't quite remember

[oblique tapir]

Twin mirrors, multibind, injector band all at once

[queen acorn]

needle strike is good

[oblique tapir]

Clever...

Uhhh idk if injector decreases dps ngl, but you could use warding bell if you want

[blazing dragon]

I was desperate so from some point I just tried every trick I can come up with xD

[uncut elk]

guys

you will not belive this

silksong sea of sorrow is under there

[finite swift]

Signis and Gron is so thin compared to the workers

oh my god oh my god oh my god I love them

they got ass ig

[uncut elk]

wheres the big one

they look funney

[finite swift]

They throw bombs at you

[uncut elk]

like the big guy that can parkour

and charge at you

[oblique tapir]

I remember beating nkg for the first time it was my biggest accomplishment yet... until like a few weeks later i think

[blazing dragon]

I love their design
But gameplay-wise god I hate these bombers xD

[oblique tapir]

Signis has no ass like their employees sigh

[remote talon]

pinstress runback be crazy

[lavish apex]

there's a bench that's like a 20 second walk away from where she is

[rotund peak]

I remember when r/silksong was full of crazy people and a cult :(

Is it just a normal game subreddit now? I haven't checked

[unkempt minnow]

witch crest seems goated

[slender juniper]

Fun fact the damage difference between needle 3 and 4 is actually 18 and 20, since all act3 bosses have those modifiers

[open bane]

bruh i cant do the silk soar skip in the abyss climb fast enough

[light swan]

the bench is rifht above her you can fall down easily

[light swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1481335365414424597/caption.3e6bea82.gif

[unkempt minnow]

i saw a video of a person using it

yesterday i made a joke about core nuking groal the great

hes dead but i will core nuke someone else

[open bane]

nvm, ive done it

[unkempt minnow]

i am a wanderer user rn

[slender juniper]

The needle upgrades are lowkey a scam sometimes

[unkempt minnow]

needle upgrade 3 btw

[slender juniper]

Not that one

[unkempt minnow]

which ones

[slender juniper]

The 4th is just a 11% difference

[unkempt minnow]

later ones?

oh i mean its 1 hit for 10 hits so not very good you got a point 😭

[slender juniper]

And you have to play the fuckass flea minigame for it

[slender juniper]

Huh

[unkempt minnow]

11% is around +1 hit per 10 hits im so trash at explaining

[slender juniper]

True

But I don't wanna do the fuckass flea minigames for that

[slender juniper]

Actually no

[hybrid flare]

ah yes, cursed status effect is so peak, cant have fun in my fun game

[slender juniper]

This math is very wrong

You're multiplying the amount of hits

And not the damage

[unkempt minnow]

i mean +1 hit of damage

[slender juniper]

Huh

[unkempt minnow]

i just got witch crest, mr sisyphus

[slender juniper]

That's wrong

[unkempt minnow]

lets just leave this 😭

[slender juniper]

You can't multiply the amount of hits instead of damage

[slender juniper]

No

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[unkempt minnow]

why 🙁

[slender juniper]

Then don't take it of

It's peak

[unkempt minnow]

yes

[hybrid flare]

im talking about dark souls

[unkempt minnow]

oh

[slender juniper]

Yes why

🔥

[solar spoke]

am i tripping or when i destroy a voidmass the amount of voided enemy in the area reduce to almost none

[slender juniper]

How fucked would you be if they put moorwing to p5

[slender juniper]

No they just voidify later

[quartz gulch]

They just don't spawn where they shouldn't now. Or do you mean voided enemies? They randomly get voided.

[slender juniper]

It delays the transformation

[tacit relic]

I'm new to modding... what kind of mods should I use?

[quartz gulch]

Moorwing is hella easy (with experience), wdym?

[solar spoke]

then why was one judge in the blasted step voided every runback base and not once i destroyed the voidmass

[solar spoke]

no the already voided ones

[slender juniper]

Because it delays the transformation

Destroying them

[slender juniper]

@safe venture

[solar spoke]

do yall have any tips for shrine guardian seth he giving me a hard time

bruh

[tacit relic]

Pogo when he's down.

[quartz gulch]

Might be a skill issue. I don't get it, since the attacks are very clear and stuff but who am I to speak when I'm struggling with P5.

Also, have you experienced the glitch where the game pauses for two seconds every time a boss dies in P5? I'm on PS4 and it really pisses me off, it's also still there after restarting and all that.

[quartz gulch]

-Wanderers Crest
-Threefold Pin / Cogflies
-Dice, Heavy Belt, Anklets
-Injector band, Multibinder, Druids Eyes
-no silk skills, just heal instead

[solar spoke]

uh i don't have the threefold pins

i'll go with coglys

[open bane]

oh damn 92% completion

[quartz gulch]

Maybe they fixed it, I haven't played in a while. Do you have any advice for P5? Of course it's mostly pure skill, but charm lodouts and such. Currently my furthest is NKG.

[blazing dragon]

what is left?

[open bane]

one whole mask, one silk heart, a red tool, a blue tool, all mementos, all old hearts

no shit sherlock

[quartz gulch]

Who the hell is hog? And what charm is mop also?

[blazing dragon]

also Pale Nails and Shaman's crest?

[open bane]

shamans crest i do have, Pale nails missing
and one memory locket

[quartz gulch]

Ah, makes sense. I guess I'll do Markoth and NKG then.

Also, do you by chance know if I need to do GPZ for hall of gods 100%, so the statues appear?

[open bane]

and the last needle upgrade

[blazing dragon]

noice

[quartz gulch]

You should do Eternal Ordeal if you haven't already btw. Idk if it works if he died though.

[slender juniper]

Eternal what

[tight viper]

Only if you have him unlocked

[slender juniper]

Fuck off

[tight viper]

If he’s dead, GPZ doesn’t matter

[quartz gulch]

I didn't kill him but I didn't try GPZ either so he doesn't show up in my P5.

[magic narwhal]

Do I dare fight Groal today

That’s where my last run ended

[slender juniper]

Oh Zote challenge

[slender juniper]

https://youtu.be/vkM-yXX30S0?is=ahuI1gmQYgQzMjMH

[quartz gulch]

While I don't support it, mods have banned shipping in pinned messages so be carful.

[lucid trellis]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BEMN5U4QpnM

[slender juniper]

..we both sent speed kills

[quartz gulch]

Just do him last when you're tuly prepared, Wreath and all.

[slender juniper]

They haven't banned shipping

[tight viper]

But they have banned lacenet shipping

[quartz gulch]

They indeed have banned shipping Lace and Hornet.

[lucid trellis]

AKA the only good way to kill it

[slender juniper]

The reasonings are so stupid but I won't argue

[shy kettle]

u dont even neeed architects

im pretty sure just spamming stingshards on him too and a single pompillo kills

[tight viper]

Lace is a skilled and manic fencer from the hit game Hollow Knight: Silksong

[slender juniper]

She herself knows is not a child, she in her own dialogue says, she mimicks a child

[opaque sigil]

because she doesn't view herself as a living thing not because she isn't a child

[slender juniper]

But she isn't, she continues doing what GMS wants her to do

[opaque sigil]

the fandom doing the 1000 year old dragon thing unironically is crazy silksong fan be normal around children challenge

[slender juniper]

That's her whole point

GMS spun lace to be her daughter the type that the others we'rent

[lucid trellis]

lacenet but its platonic and more like hornet dealing with an adopted stray cat

[quartz gulch]

I know, there are countless arguments why Lace isn't a child, besides the fact that they aren't humans so this underage logic is stupid anyways. Shakra calls Hornet a child too btw, even when corrected. And "child of" and "child" being different. And all that other stuff.

[slender juniper]

Her final act of rebellion was against this

[quartz gulch]

Because Lace behaves like a child? I don't feel she does.

[slender juniper]

GMS spun lace as daughter that did exactly what she wanted

[lucid trellis]

"your not my mom"
"Im not and get down from the shelf lace"

[slender juniper]

Lace didn't have her own free will, she is required to act like a child

[wind mulch]

it dont even matter lowk

shit is too ambiguous to even gaf

[rose flax]

does anyone else get aggressive chills everytime u hear strive or widow

[opaque sigil]

it's not ambiguous people are just fuckin weird

[lucid trellis]

probably

[wind mulch]

i dont ship characters i find it strange

but like honestly who cares

[blazing dragon]

it always seems to me like typical sibling relationship
like, "my little sister is the most annoying thing in the world but I'm ready to jump into Abyss to save her stupid ass" type of relationship

[rose flax]

im personally just wondering how lace will be handled after GMS' death

[lucid trellis]

Shakra and hornet meet more times than hornet and lace

[rose flax]

will she find her maturity without GMS to force her to be a manic child?

[opaque sigil]

she won't be

[lucid trellis]

exactly

[wind mulch]

maybe

[tight viper]

Hornet and Cardinius is the better ship anyways

[rose flax]

fym

[lucid trellis]

lace is like, 4 ish times, shakra is like, at least 15

[opaque sigil]

hornet and the bottom of a boot more like, crush the racist pos

[blazing dragon]

hornet x senti is the only ship I would take

[slender juniper]

Needle wielding a child

[rose flax]

how is cardinius racist

[mighty pilot]

hornet x knight

[slender juniper]

No we're done talking about this

[opaque sigil]

well cardinius is also a little racist towards weavers but hornet is the racist pos in question

[mighty pilot]

we have?

[rose flax]

which dialogue suggests cardinius is racist towards weavers

[mighty pilot]

i feel left out

[slender juniper]

She keeps calling her weaver-spawn,insults her race, and then her

[opaque sigil]

Bleg! Dead! Dead, your vicious kind are meant to be. Better methinks to stay as such...

[lucid trellis]

arent they cousins?

[rose flax]

theyre half siblings

[quartz gulch]

She has free will, she just doesn't follow it so she is given silk by her mommy.

[opaque sigil]

Kak! Then pass it, filthy Weaver-spawn! A cylinder so sacred should not remain a moment longer in your grubby claws!

[quartz gulch]

Sealed Cousins

[lucid trellis]

the dead guy?

[stable fjord]

Managed to kill second beastfly with beast crest

[slender juniper]

And that's basically...no will at all

[quartz gulch]

Female

[vale whale]

they're racist? them and hornet are perfect together

[unkempt minnow]

how do you heal with witch crest

[stable fjord]

8th try

[slender juniper]

You bind

[tight viper]

The vines have to hit something

[quartz gulch]

Press the bind button @unkempt minnow

[vale whale]

get in your enemy's face and pull out your tentacles

[unkempt minnow]

is it like

the more you hit the more you heal

[rose flax]

i wonder if we get post-act 3 content we'll get a maturing lace as GMS is kinda dead

[unkempt minnow]

or do you just need to hit

[tight viper]

Pretty much

[stable fjord]

I kinda learned the beast pogo overall

[tight viper]

Bind does 3 hits, land all three for three masks

Goes up to 4 with Multibinder

[quartz gulch]

Lace is mature though (I AM NOT SHIPPING ANYONE), which child goes around on a killing spree making monologues?

[charred tiger]

with the way you day that it feels like ur talking about witch

[tight viper]

I am

Someone was asking about the Witch bind

[charred tiger]

guh

[rose flax]

fair point

[lucid trellis]

Mr Mushroom

[quartz gulch]

Yes, what about him?

[slender juniper]

"lace is a child", the child in question fucking killing everyone and then laughs about it:

[charred tiger]

me

[lucid trellis]

I was answering your question

[stable fjord]

I hate how beast crest has no blue slots until like end of act 2

[opaque sigil]

children not understanding the moral weight of their actions is like a normal idea

[quartz gulch]

Mr. Mushroom is a child going on a killing spree and monologing?

[lucid trellis]

yes

[quartz gulch]

She literally understands though, that's the thing.

[tight viper]

Mr. Mushroom killed Loam, confirmed

[unkempt minnow]

so if theres 20 enemies around me woul i theoretically heal 20 health if i hit all of them with bind?

[quartz gulch]

Nope, just like Beast it is capped

[unkempt minnow]

oh:(

[quartz gulch]

Multibinder still great and Warding Bell has a buff on Witch.

[charred tiger]

i love witch moves but i hate the bind

[unkempt minnow]

what buff

thats my go to combo

[tight viper]

Just use the Cursed crest then

[charred tiger]

what

[quartz gulch]

It's just better, someone said 40% or something.

[rotund gate]

Ultrakill

[charred tiger]

yeah nah i'm fine

[unkempt minnow]

im using claw mirror with multibinder and bell

[charred tiger]

elden ring

THAT'S HER DAUGHTER

[opaque sigil]

the bind is very strong if you learn how to use it but if you don't like it it may not be worth learning

[rotund gate]

dark souls

[rotund gate]

Please let bro get infected I want to kill zote

[charred tiger]

i just don't like it I'm not daying it's weak

[blazing dragon]

I would say Lace is a teenager in the middle of teenage crisis tenfold amplified by "my mom is a literal goddess with manic fixation on an absolute control"

[light swan]

witch is cool outside of the bind but the bind isnt a drawback either

[opaque sigil]

run

[light swan]

y’all should appreciate witch for jts moveset

[charred tiger]

she is silk

[tight viper]

Clearly you’ve never watched Pinocchio

[charred tiger]

it's like
egg cell

[opaque sigil]

actually <@&283547423706447872> just

[quartz gulch]

THESE ARE LITERAL BUGS.
NOT HUMANS.
Do bugs have teenage years?

[wind mulch]

how was this guy calling me strange

[light swan]

some things are common sense and not joke material

[runic atlas]

[rotund gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1356061197052674178/1416594339261583390/G0qp7RlWYAA-LuN-1.gif

[inland ravine]

Bruh

[quartz gulch]

Calm down dude, it's clearly a joke. Even if an unfunny one.

[tight viper]

To be fair, literal bugs don’t walk around with swords and shit

[light swan]

sure you can joke about nsfw terms and shit but SHOULD you?

[lucid trellis]

wha happen

[runic atlas]

It doesn't matter if it's a joke it's still not allowed

[rotund gate]

mfs dont have common sense in big 26

[blazing dragon]

every story ever written is a story about human beings
even if they looks like bugs

[charred tiger]

lace isn't a bug

[inland ravine]

Why do I even have to see this...

[lucid trellis]

https://tenor.com/btcv9.gif

[rotund gate]

the vessels arent either

[tight viper]

Lace is a bug born of thread

[rotund gate]

does that excuse anything

[charred tiger]

and the vessels can mature

[charred tiger]

gms isn't a big either

[tight viper]

Vessels are dead bugs filled with void

[quartz gulch]

I'm just saying that we shouldn't go around comparing totally different variables. TC also changed the mention of years and such, so I wouldn't consider everything equal to humans.

I AM NOT SHIPPING ANYONE, JUST TO BE CLEAR

[charred tiger]

where did you find that info

[rotund gate]

idk i think shes quite big compared to hornet

[charred tiger]

a big

[wind mulch]

its true

[tight viper]

The eggs in the Abyss

[lucid trellis]

What's the average lifespan of vessels, id guess like, 20 years

[charred tiger]

i'm not asking yes or no i'm asking where the hell did you pull that from

[slender juniper]

Umm ctually lace is a fucking bitch

[rotund gate]

what the hell is even happening atp

[charred tiger]

we never saw one dying of age

[slender juniper]

3000

[wind mulch]

the abyss

[tight viper]

Immortal

[charred tiger]

yes

[wind mulch]

the eggs and white lady dialogue

[lucid trellis]

im talking on average, and when most didn't survive a day...

[quartz gulch]

Nope. Not how that works.

[charred tiger]

not of age

[tight viper]

They don’t grow with age, hell they don’t even age biologically, they’re dead

[wind mulch]

how is it not

[charred tiger]

they weren't good vessels

[tight viper]

Pure Vessel is an exception

[slender juniper]

Okay....

[quartz gulch]

They all died, void is negative life energy, which they basically run on. Soul is positive life energy btw.

[slender juniper]

What's the point

[charred tiger]

so...
black fireball is a hollow purple

[lucid trellis]

abyss shriek

[charred tiger]

all upgraded spells

[normal bramble]

105% on HK

3% and Pantheons left

[lucid trellis]

86% in skong

[normal bramble]

Then have finished both silksong and HK

[charred tiger]

111 hk and 100 sk

[tight viper]

112 HK and 105 SK

[charred tiger]

guh

[rotund gate]

good fucking luck doing P4

[lucid trellis]

anyway, the flea games are more difficult than some bosses

[charred tiger]

than all

[cerulean sable]

fuck P5

that is all

[charred tiger]

ever did the seth ones

[cerulean sable]

i refuse to play it

[quartz gulch]

Because that is a lame excuse. "Ummm actually this logic (that literally doesn't apply) does apply because they work similarly to humans in this fictional world".
You can't say they are all humans as an argument for them working like humans. As by that logic, nothing can logically function. Because real world stuff can't fucking apply the same way.

Also, how is Rain World about a human being? Specifically, how does the player represent a human?

[cerulean sable]

and only did P4 so i can get 112 and get Peak Vessel

[charred tiger]

who is this and why are they blue

[quartz gulch]

Former Mod.

[cerulean sable]

i used to kill bots back in the days

[lucid trellis]

tips for flea juggle, i want the oil

[rotund gate]

i never knew that

[cerulean sable]

2021 News Drought War veteran

[rotund gate]

good fucking luck if seth is already there

[quartz gulch]

More difficult than all of them imo. Except for Kratt, he actually delivered.

[charred tiger]

kill them

[lucid trellis]

he's not

i need tips

[charred tiger]

if they can't gatekeep the loot you can take it

[tight viper]

Flea games are free, just use Shaman

[rotund gate]

ok do NOT get him to the festival before you have done the ecstasy of the end wish

[lucid trellis]

im not

i just need tips

[rotund gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1414500916320538626/1489738415925628978/convert.59d50d51.gif

[cerulean sable]

you havent seen what ive seen
every event, just people malding over no news in directs, just non stop and it will drag on the next 3 days
the cycle of "New event > SILKSONG RELEASE > Nothing > Fuck Team Cherry, I dont care anymore > New event" was non stop every month

its kinda funny that you no longer see it

[slender juniper]

..you can't

[rotund gate]

oh what

[lucid trellis]

Please

[rotund gate]

you cant??

[opaque sigil]

it was funny

[slender juniper]

You can't

[tight viper]

Shaman crest

[wind mulch]

i think they mean that every story will always reflect human themes and ideals and such, every story ever told is about humanity in that sense, regardless of the setting, im not disagreeing with you on how its kind of a bad argument i just wondered what you meant by that

[charred tiger]

even if you did it wouldn't matter

[cerulean sable]

at a certain point it got tiring and i just left the channel every event lmao

[opaque sigil]

I mean yeah nobody sane actually stayed to do anything other than laugh

[rotund gate]

what the hell was happening back then

[charred tiger]

wait can we take you in hostage so that tc release sea of sorrow faster

[cerulean sable]

i was not sane enough that i kept on arguing 😔

the amount of "The game is never coming out, TC either had a family member die and they lost hope, or they ran out with the money" cope was insane

[opaque sigil]

'tc hates us this is malicious'

[rotund gate]

no tc got bought out by uh
coca cola
and stopped making games

thats the reason sea of sorrow got delayed to never

[cerulean sable]

SoS is at the minimum late 2026

i know it

[charred tiger]

nooo

[wind mulch]

i mean silver bells is evidence of this

[charred tiger]

what about sbr

[cerulean sable]

i... feeelll it...

[rotund gate]

didnt team cherry say they want to do more in 2026?

[wind mulch]

maybe the fetch quests are actually recompense for what this community did

[fiery burrow]

xbox event > SILKSONG WILL BE HERE > actual news > "Team Cherry sold out they're cheapskates"

[rotund gate]

and groal

[cerulean sable]

what about Shortened Barrel Rifles

[wind mulch]

im starting to connect the dots

[charred tiger]

what are those

[cerulean sable]

PD is the only evil evil area that i genuinely hate as an area
Bilewater is more on that evil but warm kinda evil i actually liked, weirdly enough

[pulsar shadow]

SAME

[rotund gate]

i grew to like bilewater

[wind mulch]

PD is am actual horror game

[tight viper]

5-year-old me starting the fun activity sheet the daycare lady handed out:

[blazing dragon]

they mean that every story will always reflect human themes and ideals and such, every story ever told is about humanity in that sense, regardless of the setting
yes, thank you, that exactly what I meant
sorry if I put in wrong words, my english is far from perfect
about Lace, I meant that we can use her story as a metaphor of actual human experience, despite her not being human

[charred tiger]

what's pd

[rotund gate]

putrified ducts

[pulsar shadow]

putrified ducts is my least favourite area in the game. bilewater is actually okay

[charred tiger]

oh

[toxic vigil]

Hello!

[tight viper]

Wormways is worse

[charred tiger]

yeah those moskitos are hell

[tight viper]

Ducts has a shortcut and fleas

[wind mulch]

you know the village board quests where u need to collect shit

[charred tiger]

oh

[cerulean sable]

like my two states are

Fuck Bilewater (affectionate)
Fuck Putrid Ducts (genuine)

[quartz gulch]

We were not talking about that though, context matters.

[rotund gate]

in wormways theres atleast something unique to it
being the plasmium stuff
putrified ducts is just the shitty parts of bilewater and sinners road combined

[toxic vigil]

wormways is cool asf

[fiery burrow]

what were you talking about

[rotund gate]

ok

[wind mulch]

they were, they just said they were

[tight viper]

Ducts has something unique, it’s called the carnival

[rotund gate]

thats literally only in act 3 anyway

[opaque sigil]

which is also ass

[tight viper]

As is Plasmified Wormways

[rotund gate]

i forgot

[wind mulch]

would you believe me if i said this came from lacenet discussion

[cerulean sable]

im still running with the hope the final boss of SoS is a Choir Class Battleship named G.M.S. (Grand Mother Ship) Phantom and its essentially a 4th Chorus style fight

[broken seal]

I love Sands of Karak

[wind mulch]

whoops ping my fault

[quartz gulch]

Nope. An ideal and a logic is different. Theme doesn't equal fact. And the fact is that these are bugs, despite the themes of standing up to oppressors.

[fiery burrow]

\🥀

[rotund gate]

i wish for Leviathan….

[opaque sigil]

hornet should get a flintlock tool

[cerulean sable]

and i wish for a fuckign Battleship so i guess were on an impass here

[fiery burrow]

They're anthropomorphized bugs very comparable to humans even if they aren't actually

[rotund gate]

silkshot and rosary cannon already being guns:

[cerulean sable]

Buff 12Archi silkshot first

[craggy parcel]

Yee yee ahh Yi

[opaque sigil]

not good enough

[rotund gate]

please bro

[opaque sigil]

neither uses gunpowder as propellant

[quartz gulch]

Buff all silkshots and rosary cannon. I would say how but I'm too tired.

[wind mulch]

they are pretty much weird looking people lets be fr

[rotund gate]

https://tenor.com/view/high-cortisol-cortisol-cortisol-high-cortisol-spike-annoying-orange-gif-5824558491752228689

[cerulean sable]

i think Rosary Cannon is a joke tool tbh

[still owl]

the battleship will be made of steel

[cerulean sable]

12th Archi Silkshot is the one true gun

[rotund gate]

it definitely is

[opaque sigil]

it is but it's a good joke

[cerulean sable]

fair

[fiery burrow]

man I could go for some crowsworn gunplay tbh

[broken seal]

my right eye genuinely started aching after looking at this 😭

[rotund gate]

i honestly wish you could be able to customize your silkshots design without changing its design

[pulsar shadow]

i made a silksong areas tierlist. bellhart, mount fay and cogwork core r in S tier. bilewater is in B. PD is in F

[cerulean sable]

i do not consider the Mt Fay variant because its a fucking laser and I DO NOT allow energy weapons in this household to be considered as firearms

[rotund gate]

Sorry bro

[cerulean sable]

they dont deserve it

[opaque sigil]

what about railguns

[cerulean sable]

still not as cool as traditional firearms

[broken seal]

It's a Railgun

[silver zenith]

Did you know that you can poggo of Trobbio after defeating him, while he lays on the ground?

[cold trellis]

Like in ultrakill 😭

[cerulean sable]

theres something raw about harnessing the power of the raw elements

[opaque sigil]

hornet could use volt filament to make a railgun

[rotund gate]

yeah

[quartz gulch]

Oh, so you can shoot life energy by stabbing people? Or are you not pale enough (no racism intended)?

[cerulean sable]

yes, a certain scientific one at that...

[rotund gate]

does volt filament effect silkshot

[opaque sigil]

no

[craggy parcel]

I do not understand the point of the machine gun vs the cannon
The 12th Architect is a goddamn scammer bruh

[cold trellis]

I wanna know what kind of conversation you guys are having that lead to this

[rotund gate]

damn

[cerulean sable]

wait does sling tool change silkshot

[silver zenith]

I am the #2 Skarrsinger Karmelita Simp

[rotund gate]

12th scammer 🙏

[opaque sigil]

but hornet could make electromagnets

[cerulean sable]

like it should in theory turn it into a double burst weapoin

[wind mulch]

you understand that when they said every story is about humanity it obviously isnt meant literally

[broken seal]

..why would it?? 😭

[quartz gulch]

"All fantasy is about media, even if they look different" or something

[rotund gate]

you will never take #1 i am the QUEEN of simping to karmelita 👹👹👹

[rotund gate]

SILKshot

[cold trellis]

But the 12th architect is the closet thing we have to a “empty the mag” type of shot. Like a realistic one if you know what I meant

[wind mulch]

like yea hornet isnt some human but she is obviously a reflection of one

i dont really understand what you're trying to say

[quartz gulch]

THE ARGUMENT WASN'T ABOUT THE FUCKING STORY THAT'S THE THING

[cerulean sable]

fuck DPS metrics

i use the tool i think is cool

[tight viper]

Karmelita Simp
PFP is Gron

[broken seal]

then it would also affect snare setter and wispfire lantern and druids eye(s) and clawline 😭

[rotund gate]

ok fair enough

[broken seal]

It's specifically for Silk Skills, not anything that uses Silk

[opaque sigil]

it basically only affects thrown things so not silkshots

[tight viper]

Volt filament boosted clawline would be peak

[broken seal]

Oh and Bind lol

[cerulean sable]

fucked up but understandable

i thought you could make theoretical uzi

[wind mulch]

we have no idea how the logic of laces age works in universe we can only draw comparisons to real life

[blazing dragon]

well
what do you mean by "these are bugs"?
real bugs doesn't have religion, civilization, culture and all different kind of stuff they do have in this setting

[opaque sigil]

I mean the rosary cannon fires pretty fast

[cold trellis]

Might as well as just buff everything at that point

[open bane]

unraveled down

[tight viper]

We need to buff Needle Phial

[open bane]

should one hit zango

[vale whale]

can you let gron have a celebrity crush

[cerulean sable]

this is genuinely how Silkspeed Anklets feel ngl

[tight viper]

That’s not a buff that’s a sidegrade

[cerulean sable]

but the DPS is meh from what i heard

[tight viper]

No, he is dead I killed him

[cerulean sable]

besides the sound is like a pellet gun

Silkshot sounds like its a FUCKING gun that shoots BULLETS

[light swan]

the map of silksong grades

[blazing dragon]

like they are bugs in biological sense, so they don't have teenage period of life?

[opaque sigil]

yeah but who cares

[open bane]

i started torna Yesterday

[quartz gulch]

** ROSARY CANNON AND SILKSHOT BUFFS:
**-buff damage for both, idk silkshot values
-rosary cannon does 3-4 > 4-5 > 5-6 > 6-7 > 7-8 (per upgrade, random between the two)
-rosary cannon can always be reloaded
-Silkshot uses only silk, but has infinite uses and is affected by volt filament
-rosary cannon with quicksling shoots two rosaries at the same time
-silkshots can be changed between like the voltvessels
-silkshots are affected by poison

[cerulean sable]

im still going with the sound part 😤

[light swan]

depicts every tool or ability or addition to hornets moveset as a vector

[light swan]

have fun! hopefully you see the preakness

[tight viper]

Silkshots are already affected by poison

[opaque sigil]

torna is great I wish there was more of it

[tight viper]

Forgeshot is one of the only tools that’s actually kinda good with it

[quartz gulch]

No you fucking can't, end of the discussion.

[quartz gulch]

My save glitched a craftmetal away so idk how they work.

[light swan]

i think torna is perfect length but i REALLY love vanguard rear guard mechanic, thats smth i want more of

[cerulean sable]

also Stingshard >>>>>>>>>> great anti air tool in the early game

bar none

[open bane]

i love Lora so much

[opaque sigil]

yeah that's more what I meant, the mechanics

[tight viper]

Sting Shard my beloved

[wind mulch]

genius

[opaque sigil]

surely nothing bad will happen to her

[cerulean sable]

its peam

wrong reply

[vale whale]

you larper if you beat him you would have seen his bedroom which is covered in karmelita posters and merchandise

[cerulean sable]

its peam

[tight viper]

No time, I still had to kill Signis

[vale whale]

his bedroom is the next part of deeper docks after you kill them both

did you not get the popstar ending

[tight viper]

I took too long in the fight so the lava spilled over and blocked the door to his room

[rocky jolt]

https://youtu.be/AjFk1cY265I?si=jSIrPrYxAY3ZDLMe oh my god bruh

[light swan]

me too

highlight of torna is lora (and also mythra but when is mythra not the highlight)

[open bane]

jesus christ, jax what happened to you

[open bane]

mythra is even more of a bitch than in the base game😭

[rocky jolt]

jax is like the main focus in every marketing for this episode

[opaque sigil]

yeah it's definitely a bit jarring

but it makes sense

prequel moment

[onyx python]

THAT'S THE FINALE ALREADY?????!!!!

almost nothing happened for the entire show and ts is already ending 😭

[open bane]

we all thought episode 8 would be the end before that came out

[onyx python]

i thought that the episode 8 was just the end of the first arc lmao

[open bane]

nah

and its been confirmed we dont get a second season

[onyx python]

i was hoping to see this show finnally be getting onto something and my hope gets destroyed and shredded

[open bane]

wtf am i missing

[fiery burrow]

Haven't watched the show but that seems normal for a miniseries ngl

[tight viper]

Say hi to Yarnaby

[open bane]

ohhh, the bombs

[light swan]

and it’s perfect

[open bane]

that means im missing a craftmetal

fuck

[light swan]

shows so much character development especially after the ending of torna

[tight viper]

Probably the one in the Steps

[onyx python]

the thing is: i feel like anyone could skip 80% of the series and it would barely interfere with that person's comprehension of the story

[open bane]

might be

[fiery burrow]

I mean that's just episodic shows innit

[cerulean sable]

they should make a digital circus game

and turn into a hardcore extraction based survival tactical shooter

[placid flax]

Yes

[fiery burrow]

would kill for a more adult oriented digital circus spinoff ngl

[placid flax]

YESSSS

I want asult content

[trim estuary]

[rocky jolt]

the amazing digital marathon

[trim estuary]

duuuude with destructible environments too

[neat python]

What?

[stable fjord]

Didn't know Shakra had a dialogue line suggesting to buy a quill

I'm going for purple quill on my save

[cerulean sable]

see people udnerstand me

[cerulean sable]

shes trying to get you with her merchant ways

hit her with the grindle stare

[stable fjord]

I'm overall doing a pretty hard challenge. Only using beast crest

(Not counting the stage before beast crest is obtainable)

[karmic gate]

is it okay to watch ?

i keep mindlessly dying and i dont talk much at all

but i have the game on my oled and would like to watch the game play without dying like an idiot

[idle quiver]

i lost my ||steel soul|| run and it's all his fault : ||Overgrown Pilgrim||

[main urchin]

And she sucks at cooking

Who do you think cooks worse: Mythra or Lugoli?

[fallen spoke]

not that hard, beast crest is awesome, idk why people hate it so much

[magic narwhal]

The bastard is dead

This is now my best run

[fallen spoke]

what run? what are you doing

[stable fjord]

Onto phantom now

[fallen spoke]

the beast crest hate is so unjustified😭

[main urchin]

Weird fact: Silk’s location in the cradle lines up pretty well horizontally with her cocoon in the Abyss

[fallen spoke]

well of course, one is at the top of the map and the other is at the bottom

[rose flax]

if bug brainrot existed lace would probably unironically say 67

[main urchin]

H o r i z o n t a l l y

[fallen spoke]

ohh, i might be cooked bro, my brain thought you said vertically

[main urchin]

Like if you dug a giant hole starting at the cradle where Silk is in act 2, you’d eventually reach pretty dang close to the spot Hornet dives

[blazing dragon]

yeah, neat detail

[main urchin]

Not as intentional as the tower of large vertical shafts in Metroid Dread where the elevator would’ve been

[fallen spoke]

guys could anyone suggest a random silksong challenge

[main urchin]

beat tormented Trobbio with your best Grimm cosplay (Reaper Crest, Wispfire Lantern, Delver’s Drill)

[fallen spoke]

ok bet

[main urchin]

And as an extra challenge, only use the neutral and dash attacks (the ones that look like Grimm’s combo into flame uppercut thingy)

[blazing dragon]

lure all spit squits in Putrified Ducts into fake vines

[main urchin]

(As in no pogo or up attack)

[orchid spruce]

honestly never noticed reaper dash attack looked like grimm

[fallen spoke]

not ducts 😭 sure ig

[orchid spruce]

[main urchin]

AND SCUTTLEBRACE

[prime socket]

Soul portals only change one coordinate at a time confirmed

[main urchin]

so trobbio can

https://tenor.com/view/grimm-get-grimmed-grimmed-hollow-knight-hollow-gif-26007572

[blazing dragon]

deal killing blow to the enemy with an empty bottle

[tight viper]

Try this for any boss fight
#sk-discussion message

Unless you don’t have access to mods

[rose flax]

bosses that can scuttle across the floor at mach fuck to dodge your shit are always cool as fuck for some reason

[fallen spoke]

i guess ill do moss mother

[rose flax]

(grimm, both weavers)

[tight viper]

If you don’t try beating the game with only upslash and downslash

[orchid spruce]

An actually fun challenge, start out with all abilities, tools, masks and spools but you deal abysmal damage (5%)

[tight viper]

So every hit just does 1 damage?

[orchid spruce]

yes

[tight viper]

Rosary Cannon might actually be useful for once

[rose flax]

the holy blicky

[meager jolt]

Reaper Crest is like Grimm? How?

[tight viper]

Dash attack

Also directional slashes in general

And a play on Grim Reaper, I guess

[open bane]

Mythra
Lugoli was employed as a chef, so they had to have some skill

[meager jolt]

Hmm..........I wanna do this challenge, but I have no more save slots.......sadge

[main urchin]

Dash Attack. Neutral attack. Also, GRIMM REAPER. It’s a pun

[tight viper]

Are you on PC

[meager jolt]

Switch

[fallen spoke]

and thats done

[open bane]

same

[meager jolt]

Oh my GOD another thing I discovered I like/use/do subconsciously because of Grimm

[stable fjord]

Also there's a cool thing with needolin. Singing enemies have strings pointing straight to the cradle

I didn't check if that's the case in act 3

[main urchin]

Similar things happen with the void threads in the foreground and background of act 3, except they point down to the abyss

[rose flax]

which makes you lock in harder, "Enter Pharloom", or the final climb to finish off the radiance

[fallen spoke]

idk radiance is easy, enter pharloom on the abyss climb hits hard

[rose flax]

what about the silence during the godhome version

[pallid pine]

Here's half the recipe for a fancy bread in dutch

Choose what you will do with it

[fallen spoke]

ok that makes my heart go wild during radiant

[placid pivot]

thx bro

[queen acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/992122184753479740/1486976441986846821/caption.gif

[minor sparrow]

makes me lock in? radiance climb. it's way easier but I'd say im more locked in because I don't want to do the 5 minute fight again

[open bane]

oh my god, they are so fucking cute

[minor sparrow]

in terms of what makes me feel cooler, abyss climb

[open bane]

and yes, i tried to slap the wierdo flea.

[placid pivot]

they look pretty yummy

like popcorn

[open bane]

[pallid pine]

The economy sucks

[minor sparrow]

i think your popcorn got some mold on it. don't think its supposed to look like it

[queen acorn]

true

[placid pivot]

its cheese popcorn

[minor sparrow]

i think your cheese is moldy

[placid pivot]

cheese is mold

[tawdry socket]

Cheeze is actually composed of bacteria, but some cheeses do have mold intentionally

[queen acorn]

i want

[rose flax]

is lace or phantom the cooler sibling

[scenic pendant]

What

[sudden robin]

its gotta be phantom

im an absolute sucker for the organ

[meager jolt]

HELLO Phantom (Phantom of the Opera reference is crazy and non-binary rep yay!!!!!!! :D)

[fallen spoke]

phantom obviously

[rose flax]

i still wonder where exactly is it implied that phantom is non-binary

[stable mica]

Phantom ig

[meager jolt]

They/them pronouns exclusively, varied genders in romance languages (but trying to be gender neutral)

[queen acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/phantom-silksong-hollow-they-them-gif-9035642985040867451

[rose flax]

where tho?

[queen acorn]

in this gif

[tight viper]

Lace has a better fight, but Phantom is cooler

[meager jolt]

Journal

[rose flax]

phantom is quite easy probably because they're old as the fucking dinosaurs and frayed to hell

[meager jolt]

You get it

[queen acorn]

mhm

[tight viper]

Difficulty aside, Lace 2 is just more enjoyable

[odd hull]

Yeah. Atleast in Portuguese, Phantom does not have any gender mention/pronoun use in it's description.

[meager jolt]

Which is awesome!

[rose flax]

im kinda split on this because lace also refers to phantom as "sister" in the hidden needolin dialogue nearby

[open bane]

fuck Flea Juggle

[tight viper]

The speaker in that dialogue is unclear

Could be Lace speaking, could be Phantom

[normal bramble]

I always took that to be phantom

[meager jolt]

Unclear speaker

[normal bramble]

Tbh

[meager jolt]

More evidence points to be non-binary

[timid sky]

Phantom is she/they until proven she or proven they

[rose flax]

i personally interpret lace being the speaker cuz shes literally looking up at phantom, and by pattern recognition people who are often floating in weird tubes arent really conscious to say anything in the first place

[vale whale]

do yall think the cradle lace rematch is a mgs3 reference

[rose flax]

with eva being an exception, but shes kinda an unfinished higher being

[open bane]

there you go

[vale whale]

what a stupid fucking argument lmfao😭😭 theyre only referred to with they/them pronouns where tf did you get she/her from

[rose flax]

except thats not the only dialogue referring to phantom

[hybrid flare]

Man gaping dragon is so ass 💔

[rose flax]

dawg why is this turning hostile

[timid sky]

Find out

[vale whale]

no its more like the other side

[rose flax]

this does not need to be turning hostile

[vale whale]

i just got here

[exotic dome]

which one is the other dialogue

[open bane]

the memory Dialoge, we dont know the speaker

[vale whale]

it literally has to be lace lmfao

[hybrid flare]

Like its genuinely hilarious just walking up to it when its running and getting one shot by a pixel of his tail or smt

[vale whale]

is phantom singing while trapped in a tube

[vale whale]

you have to unlock and fucking BOLT when it starts running

[rose flax]

the needolin dialogue, where the speaker isnt exactly confirmed but thats all the more reason for it to be up for debate, unless team cherry has personally addressed this with a clear answer

[exotic dome]

are you using lock on

[open bane]

besides, lace could still call phantom sister no matter what

[still osprey]

Phantom is they/them until proven otherwise

[vale whale]

wait mb my memory is shit

[open bane]

this

[vale whale]

phantom is nonbinary though

[fiery burrow]

Phantom knows how to build up her bossfights fr

[vale whale]

that's it until tc for some reason confirms otherwise

[still osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/phantom-silksong-hollow-they-them-gif-9035642985040867451

[exotic cedar]

The m

[rose flax]

by similar logic hornet could just be being polite out of not being sure about phantom's gender in the first place

thats also a possibility

[vale whale]

we do need to account for the fact that sometimes external sources confirm character genders tho like how lj's va said she was female

[fiery burrow]

Assuming characters are nonbinary until proven otherwise is a neat headcanon but idk why we're treating it as fact

[rose flax]

isnt it common to refer to someone as "they" if you arent sure about a gender?

[fiery burrow]

Yes they is gender neutral if can be used for anyone

[vale whale]

however until stated otherwise theyre nb

[rose flax]

why tho

[vale whale]

hornet addresses them with they/them pronouns you cant just call that bs and ignore it

it's literally our only concrete proof of gender

[odd hull]

Yes. It's a bit funny and cool bc of how obviously the translators were trying their best with this language

[fiery burrow]

The journal refers to Garmond Sister Splinter and Last Judge with they/them too

[orchid spruce]

my laptop just overheat and shut down from GRIME on low settings

[rose flax]

oh shit

[open bane]

sister splinter is a tree branch

[fiery burrow]

All of which are gendered much like Phantom who is called "sister" by Lace and is also a child of GMS who only creates daughters

[orchid spruce]

i am going to off myself

[vale whale]

you don't know lace said that

[still osprey]

The speaker isn't clear raaaaaah

[fiery burrow]

Yea I do

[rose flax]

sister splinter, yet still referred to as "they"

[fiery burrow]

Look at the scene use your eyes bruh its clearly Lace talking

[still osprey]

Is it that hard to use they/them on a character with unconfirmed gender 😭

[vale whale]

lace would NOT say that to phantom while actively trying to bank gms' attention

[still osprey]

Like omg

[open bane]

yeah, Sibling Splinter sounds shit

[fiery burrow]

What?

[vale whale]

even worse it's more likely nb then she/her

[rose flax]

but yeah this supports what i said earlier, hornet could be just unsure about phantom's gender and being polite

[still osprey]

Have you heard phantom's voice

[toxic vigil]

Hello!

[still osprey]

Literally as androgynous as it gets

I am so jealous genuinely

[brave geyser]

what's androgynous

[rose flax]

it sounds leaning towards feminine to me

[meager jolt]

Voice does NOT confirm gender, but I understand what you mean

[open bane]

not male or female

[fiery burrow]

The default assumption is that she's a girl and nothing actually challenges that its just a fun queer headcanon which is fine but idk why the fandom is so fixated on it

[humble surge]

NAIL PARRY EVERYTHING MOD RELEASING SOON

[brave geyser]

ok

[vale whale]

people are just desperate to not use they/them pronouns in 2026 so they just think of every reason to address a character exclusively referred to with they/them pronouns with gendered pronouns it's weird as fuck

[toxic vigil]

Phantom is probably like female -> nb

[idle sparrow]

i mean we can narrow it down to their sex right

[rose flax]

again, this doesnt have to get hostile

[meager jolt]

Agreed so hard

[orchid spruce]

Oh, why is this channel devolving back to phantom pronouns Is this a sign Sea of Sorrow is coming?

[brave geyser]

Ew silk for parrying

[meager jolt]

Super weird and also doesn't confirm sex

[hybrid flare]

I know hes very easy i just find it hilarious

[fiery burrow]

Yeah that's me I hate they/them pronouns and trans people because I don't agree that Phantom is non binary sorry man

[graceful oyster]

[humble surge]

its your only source of silk if unless you disable enemy invincibility

[vale whale]

is it not weird to think of like 30 different reasons a character exclusively referred to with a specific set of pronouns doesnt use those pronouns???

[rose flax]

i personally interpret phantom as female because i think lace is the one speaking in the needolin dialogue, along with hearing phantom's voice as feminine

[meager jolt]

God forbid I be happy about enby rep, sometimes I hate this community

[exotic dome]

my one question is why would gms create female characters except for only one

[orchid spruce]

[brave geyser]

So parrying is the only way to damage?

[vale whale]

tbf this is better then when people would fight over lace age and post hornet nsfw

[still osprey]

Phantom was made to be a daughter, transitioned to be nb, gms didn't like that and discarded them to the exhaust organ

[meager jolt]

Phantom has a mask, giving them an identity which could be why they were discarded

[vale whale]

a hc but a cool one

[graceful oyster]

[humble surge]

and heal, but you can play with the settings

[brave geyser]

ah okay

[vale whale]

tbf they might have just looted that off of a pilgrim they killed

[still osprey]

It's one that makes sense and fits the game

[idle sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452958569770123316/1454240412439937185/togif.gif

[open bane]

???

[vale whale]

hence why it's cool but not confirmed

[still osprey]

Silksong would not be afraid to tackle trans themes

[hybrid flare]

Phantom is a truck y'all are all wrong you bums

[toxic vigil]

Lugoli is just nonbinary

[hybrid flare]

honk/honk

[brave geyser]

Literally where does it say that

[exotic dome]

phantom is aura/farm

[vale whale]

i just dont get why people refuse to accept a character exclusively referred to with they/them pronouns doesnt use those pronouns

[sharp cobalt]

Hi gng

[opaque sigil]

sarcasm

[hybrid flare]

gms wanted a truck

[sharp hearth]

Help me with the fleamaster minigames

[orchid spruce]

Yeah, no, I won't replay Silksong Slop community

[open bane]

yeah, i mean we have a confirmed gay man in the game

[fiery burrow]

That was sarcasm to be clear I'm trans myself

[vale whale]

they appear for like 7 minutes and are one of the most beloved characters in silksong what a goat

[sharp cobalt]

If you think about it. Hornet finds a gay tragic lover, goes into his memories, kills him which also kills him in real life, harvests his organs then put that on a shelf in her room. What the actual fuck hornet.

[open bane]

okay, you got me confused for a sec😭😭😭

[orchid spruce]

Grime time

[humble surge]

gng i dont know if tc put that much thought into phantom lol

[vale whale]

mfs will still say he was a woman

[rose flax]

except there's only one occasion where phantom is referred to as "they", which seems to be as unreliable as the time phantom was referred to as "sister", due to hornet referring to several other people as "they" despite being male or female, and the speaker apparently being unconfirmed in the needolin dialogue

[hybrid flare]

this fuckass insect bro i even opened the window specifically for it

[open bane]

lol

[vale whale]

bro you have no concrete proof they were referred to as sister

[sharp cobalt]

Your name is diabolical

[toxic vigil]

Whatever fuck that

[idle sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-shocked-surprised-relief-joy-gif-12288353543161563708

[fiery burrow]

Even if we want to ignore the needolin memory its still the default assumption because GMS only creates daughters

[toxic vigil]

Id rather have crest slop

[hybrid flare]

chat did gms get tired of making females for a second and then decided it was neat again

[fiery burrow]

Sure Phantom could go against that but there's not really any evidence for that being the case

[rose flax]

neither is there concrete proof that phantom goes by "they", but both have images being referred to as such

[vale whale]

are

are people born nonbinary

[graceful oyster]

Looking for concrete proof in a vague slop indie game built on interpretative lore

[toxic vigil]

Again.
Female -> nb

[opaque sigil]

who cares

[orchid spruce]

Someone complained we slandered Silksong too much here, look what happen now

[open bane]

wait
maybe thats why gms discarded her

[fiery burrow]

Please read the following message

[idle sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452958569770123316/1454240412439937185/togif.gif

[toxic vigil]

This makes more sense if phantom was talking

[hybrid flare]

Did hornet ask phantom about the pronouns

[vale whale]

bro there is concrete proof because we KNOW a character addressed them with " they " that image is unclear as hell

[toxic vigil]

Sigh
FUCK SHAMAN'S CREST

[vale whale]

phantom is the fraying and decaying one who wants to die why the fuck would lace be saying that

[orchid spruce]

true

[opaque sigil]

if you want to headcanon phantom as nb you can do that but getting mad at people for gendering her as she/her is stupid as fuck when the game also supports that interpretation

[fiery burrow]

How'd we get so woke we forgot that "they" is gender neutral 🥀

[toxic vigil]

No??

[rose flax]

but hornet refers to several other people as "they" in the hunters journal, who are not non binary

therefore i see that as mildly unreliable

[vale whale]

yes but those are confirmed as other genders phantom is exclusively referred to like that

[idle sparrow]

hornet doesnt wanna be mean about genders so she js labels everyone as they

[placid pivot]

ts is so funny

[idle sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-shocked-surprised-relief-joy-gif-12288353543161563708

[humble surge]

doesnt songclave shaman use they for lace too at some point

[toxic vigil]

9kay guys just fuck off like.
Yeah we don't have any confirmation on phantom's gender
Who gafs
Just use they/them

[shy kettle]

i know

[idle sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/whiplash-mad-angry-frustrated-throw-gif-6000995504968593846

[open bane]

it cant be that difficult

[hybrid flare]

the absolute best way to waste your time

[vale whale]

does it not make more sense for the one who is fraying away as they speak to be talking about that to the one who is perfectly healthy and well????

[orchid spruce]

anyways metroidvania tier list

[brave geyser]

Iam going to kill them he him just to piss everyone off because fuck you guys

[hybrid flare]

shit tl

[orchid spruce]

grime is looking like it'll mog silksong (per usual)

[still osprey]

Using she/her on phantom is no different than using he/him on Hornet

[brave geyser]

It honestly doesn't

[vale whale]

she/he/they/neos phantom🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[orchid spruce]

everything mogs silksong

[hybrid flare]

skong mogs ns

[exotic dome]

pronouns are crazy because half of the languages don't even have it

[graceful oyster]

Yes it is

[toxic vigil]

He / him bell beast

[orchid spruce]

cope

[hybrid flare]

wrinkled i remember your takes being better

[humble surge]

correct

[hybrid flare]

you dissapoint me, i will disown you now

[orchid spruce]

2v1 btw nubbie

[placid pivot]

nine sols is quality slop you only like it because its good

[orchid spruce]

3v1, wtf, you're a lost cause now

[idle sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452958569770123316/1454240412439937185/togif.gif

[open bane]

Nine sols was peak

[toxic vigil]

This is chatslop

[normal bramble]

108%

[hybrid flare]

"The one that's cornered, isnt the one that lost"

[rose flax]

as i and someone else had said earlier, hornet could just be using gender neutral terms for certain people in the hunters' journal too

[orchid spruce]

wtff 4v1 🔥 🔥 🔥

[normal bramble]

pantheons is all I got left

[humble surge]

ns mogs the fuck out of skong in everything except content and exploration

[brave geyser]

What if you already lost though

[orchid spruce]

silkslop confirmed

[shy kettle]

pretty L tbh, nine sols is fine up there but HK and silksong are not better than the other, theyre like equal. silksong makes up its world building by having a much better gameplay than hornet

[exotic cedar]

I also like nine sols more than silksong.

[placid pivot]

ws

[hybrid flare]

i can literally remember 2 things from ns what the hell are you talking about

[glass oracle]

I already beat everything why can I not start silk and song

[exotic dome]

comparisonslop after pronounslop discussion this channel should be eradicated

[supple thistle]

dawg why was grandmother silk so easy compared to some other bosses

[shy kettle]

Like HK and SS Are literally a ori 1 and 2. they both have different goals

[placid pivot]

practice the final bosses and itl be easy

[idle sparrow]

parry sols

[vale whale]

and movement tbf

[open bane]

i still prefer silksong tho

[vale whale]

ORI 1 SUCKS WOTW IS TOP 5 METROIDVANIAS OAT

[supple thistle]

same

[humble surge]

i can remember everything and i wish i could forget everything and replay it

[idle sparrow]

cuz shes the false final boss

[orchid spruce]

ok we move back to laceage

[brave geyser]

Well there is an achievement where you beat her with no healing no tools no silk skills and a completely different crest

[supple thistle]

oh shit fr

[hybrid flare]

I wish that happened for most games ive ever played

[fallen spoke]

maybe i need to play nine sols

[glass oracle]

Can I get help on this...?

[shy kettle]

Ori 1 had a good charming story with ori 2 sucking ass in terms of plot but made the gameplay better

[hybrid flare]

The only thing ns has on silksong is egrok and maybe characters

and also maybe lady big stein E

[orchid spruce]

i advertise nine sols so much, i swear im not affiliated

[fiery burrow]

Ori 2's plot seemed ok

[brave geyser]

Can i see your completed wishes

[placid pivot]

i so wish i could replay terraria or hk without rmembering anything

[open bane]

uhh do you have many many fleas?

[glass oracle]

Gimme a sec

[vivid belfry]

sometimes it feels like rune rage has human intelligence

[exotic dome]

hk and ss is ori 1-2 except hk and ss are actually good games

[fiery burrow]

Neither games really touched me in terms of story but I found both of them cute

[hybrid flare]

Shuanshuan i see you

[glass oracle]

I got them to fleatopia already

[vale whale]

ori 2 has a way better story lol

[vivid belfry]

like I just saw that thing successfully predict a triple hit on broodmother at the end of her dash

[graceful oyster]

Sometimes I feel like humans have rune rage intelligence

[open bane]

rune rage has chatgpt intelligence for me

[vivid belfry]

I said sometimes

[glass oracle]

Someone said I need to beat gms once too so I'm watching the credits bc I just beat it rn

[hybrid flare]

rune rage is the best spell for gamblers

[vivid belfry]

there are also times where it doesn't even work on a stationary target

[placid pivot]

rune rage is either braindead or 3000 iq

[brave geyser]

You don't

[open bane]

yeah

[shy kettle]

not really but ok pal

[glass oracle]

I hate society

[hybrid flare]

nine sols has 3 good areas

[exotic dome]

ori lore wasnt interesting either

[brave geyser]

You only need to beat her when you have silk and soul already

[open bane]

Ori has lore?

[brave geyser]

Anyway you can just close the game boot it up again and skip the credits like that

[hybrid flare]

ori is a thing?

[open bane]

im so excited to play Mio

imma get the game tomorrow

[fiery burrow]

Ori has a story not much lore

[brave geyser]

Do tell me if it's good

[exotic dome]

allegedly

[placid pivot]

im pretty sure it doesnt save if you do that

[graceful oyster]

Mio is on sale

[shy kettle]

also why are we glazing ori, the CEOs dont treat their employees well and treat them like shit

[open bane]

lmao

[orchid spruce]

[fiery burrow]

I started my third Mio playthrough ngl

[open bane]

on what platform?

[fiery burrow]

Fantastic game

[graceful oyster]

Steam

[brave geyser]

It doesn't save that you beat the game nor does it give you the normal ending achievement but like who cares about that

[open bane]

b

[orchid spruce]

mio's turn to be glazed

[open bane]

nvm

[fiery burrow]

Ori's creator casually citing his own games in his list of the best games oat 🥀

[glass oracle]

@brave geyser am I missing any

[vivid belfry]

I started forcing myself to use reaper in my most recent skong playthrough and it's a shame that its numbers are so bad because it feels pretty good

[glass oracle]

Hunter crest best crest oat✌️fight me

[slim thorn]

have you paired it with shawblade?

[placid pivot]

yall i wanna get a meteroidvania should i get blasphemous nine sols or mio

[brave geyser]

You need to do 2 more "optional" quests iam pretty sure

[vivid belfry]

I've had it equipped yeah but it doesn't seem like reaper has anything that pairs particularly well with it

[toxic vigil]

Circlet is peaklet

[brave geyser]

you can already go do final audience just go back to high halls

[vivid belfry]

nine sols for combat, mio for exploration

[orchid spruce]

blasphemous 1? i dont recommend 1 unless you are REALLY patient

[vivid belfry]

blasphemous for lore

[brave geyser]

Hk for being ass

[orchid spruce]

nine sols best combat, mio best exploration. choose what you want.

[vivid belfry]

and also listed last because I think it's the weakest of the 3

[slim thorn]

it looks like reaper has the same thing as circlet + witch but probably harder

[glass oracle]

Which are

[vivid belfry]

every crest can cancel jump/float with pogo so they can all do the witch tech, but reaper is one of the weaker options because it has a LOT of startup frames

[toxic vigil]

There is the djump into immediate pogo

[brave geyser]

I believe you can do silver bells and final audience
Also did you get your bellhome key yet

[exotic dome]

does hunter have a tech

[vivid belfry]

that is what I'm talking about

[orchid spruce]

clawline pogo i think

that's one i remember

[glass oracle]

I've been going to my bellhome everytime when I log off it's my home

[toxic vigil]

Thats not all crests

[brave geyser]

Then iam very sure you just need a few more quests

[orchid spruce]

act 3 conditions are so ass ❤️

anyways

[brave geyser]

Why are they so true

[glass oracle]

Silver bells and final audience

[vivid belfry]

the only exception is wanderer

[glass oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[toxic vigil]

its only beast reaper witch from what i heard

[exotic cedar]

True true and true

[brave geyser]

Final audience can be a bit tricky so really you can do just about any other quest

see the thing with act 3 conditions is that you need 17 "quest points"

and 8 of those quests don't count towards that counter

For some stupid reason

[vivid belfry]

you've heard wrong, every crest lets you pogo cancel double jumps, and the only reason wanderer doesn't work for the purpose of using circlet at low altitude is because wanderer pogo doesn't have any impact on your movement

[glass oracle]

Yt video tut✌️

[vivid belfry]

every other crest's pogo hijacks your movement, either forcing you in a specific direction or halting you in midair

[brave geyser]

Why is he so TRUE

Incase you do know what the quest is already i'd recommend clawline

[toxic vigil]

oh well that won't hit thats not an spogo

[vale whale]

i never do final audience early because second sentinel's conclusion (or lack of) hurts me

[vivid belfry]

what the fuck is a spogo

[brave geyser]

Sawtooth pogo

[exotic dome]

sawtooth and pogo at the same time

[brave geyser]

where your pogo lets you do both pogo damage and sawtooth damage

[toxic vigil]

sawtooth pogo

[graceful oyster]

Sawtooth Circlet pogo

[vivid belfry]

yes, most crests can hit both at the same time

[shy kettle]

except witch