sk-discussion

[hazy spear]

My thoughts exactly 😢

[earnest drift]

I find it difficult to differentiate whether it was the weavers or conductors who did something so I tend to group them together

[hybrid flare]

ckk is an OK-ish boss

[stone quartz]

yeah thats fair

[earnest drift]

they’re both leaders of the citadel, just at different times

[narrow bramble]

What's also for Nyleth tho

[edgy patio]

too bad overmasking on lifeblood/plasmium got me to destroy his entire useless army and himself in 1 try

[stone quartz]

wdym?

[hybrid flare]

We can deduce out of the bits of evidence that are given that some things were a later addition ig

[vivid horizon]

Hi!

[stone quartz]

hello

[knotty vapor]

she's hot

[hybrid flare]

The weavers likely didnt destroy the environment and didnt have giant fucking flowing cascades in high halls

[hazy spear]

Funny how some people complain enemy gauntlets were too hard and others asking for them to be much harder and for there to be more of them

[narrow bramble]

Did Nyleth even do smth else after creating whole shellwood

[violet canopy]

Bro widow was an amazing boss! More like this one please

[edgy patio]

hmm i actually wonder if the secret overmasking mechanic will be important in sea of sorrow..

[vivid horizon]

A literal plant btw

[hybrid flare]

But they still are told to live lavishly in their rule soo

[hazy spear]

But everyone agrees the boss was too easy

[hybrid flare]

boy do i have good new for you

[knotty vapor]

so?

[vivid horizon]

Dw, one like widow is later in the game!

[stone quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1433125439596921074/attachment-2.gif

[earnest drift]

actually that’s true it was probably the conductors who killed karak

[hazy spear]

Could be like lifeblood heart maxxing in hk abyss

[violet canopy]

She comes back??

[vivid horizon]

You're getting executed bro

[earnest drift]

who’s the most evil out of widow, greyroot and khann

[vivid horizon]

No

[hybrid flare]

Theres another similar weaver boss

[vivid horizon]

Is this even a question

[hybrid flare]

greyroot

[violet canopy]

Oh alright

[stone quartz]

nah not really. shes just kinda all of the life in shellwood expressed as one being

[hybrid flare]

We dont know, khann talks about some pale light bs

And i doubt haunted bugs would feel like digging cascades for the rich

[vivid horizon]

I mean, survival of the fittest amiright?

[edgy patio]

i have marked a location in bile water of a door that is covered by rubble because it could be the entrance to the sea of sorrow dlc

[hazy spear]

I thought khann was still respected by his people or something at least

[hybrid flare]

Fuck grayroot

[vivid horizon]

Hi hi!

[earnest drift]

silksong seems to have far more evil characters compared to hollow knight

[hazy spear]

Just scary to other lands

[sage glade]

u want real spoilers

[vivid horizon]

True though

[sage glade]

nine sols dies

[hazy spear]

Yes I've seen it

[hybrid flare]

The big scale of evil

[hybrid flare]

He was

[vivid horizon]

Omg the banking lady 😭😭

[earnest drift]

he was but he has dialogue like “let the weak crumble away” and “serve and die” so he likely saw his troops as cannon fodder and neglected the weak members of his tribe

[vivid horizon]

I forgot her name

[hybrid flare]

Khann's likely not as bad, everyone could join and he's a gymbro

[earnest drift]

“in my name conquer all”

[edgy patio]

im probably gonna do the dlc on my main save then on steel heart

[stone quartz]

i mean like all the characters in hk are a little justified.

[violet canopy]

Hey guys… where do I go after this fight?

[hybrid flare]

"Go beyond your limits" i can interpret that as leaving off the ones who didnt want to improve

[vivid horizon]

Back to bellhart

[narrow bramble]

Wich boss

[hybrid flare]

not the ones that yk, just were "weak"

[hazy spear]

That's true, but doesn't seem as bad as the others you listed

[violet canopy]

Oh it’s different here now

[hybrid flare]

Remember that khann has several specializations/divisions in his ranks

[hazy spear]

Greyroot who just plants children in random innocent bugs

And widow who has anger issues

[vivid horizon]

Yh, you saved them from the mini haunting

[hybrid flare]

The lack of old pharloom strikes again

[earnest drift]

greyroot is a serial killer, widow is a mass mental torturer, khann is an oppressive conquerer

they’re all pretty horrible

do you consider nosk to be evil or just a wild beast

[vivid horizon]

I mean how would you not be in a kingdom that's fallen to ruin?!

[violet canopy]

This game is just awesome man

[stone quartz]

widow was quite literally tortured to be that

[hybrid flare]

widow really didnt do anything aside from tying up already haunted bugs

[earnest drift]

he acted like that long before Pharloom fell to ruin

[hazy spear]

Ok but khann boss music > widow and shellwood

So khann is best

[earnest drift]

she strengthened it, once she dies Bellhart is free

[violet canopy]

Oh so it becomes like a round table hold now

[hybrid flare]

Once you break the strings mind you

[violet canopy]

I see new wishes and stuff

[hybrid flare]

ball knowledge

[earnest drift]

is lace worse than widow

[hybrid flare]

absolutely

[civic bolt]

No way we're having Widow propaganda

[exotic dome]

no

[stone quartz]

mhm. widow was tortured mind you

[civic bolt]

Well I guess she has the "she isn't really herself" card

[hybrid flare]

lace went out to murder people just because

[exotic dome]

as a boss fight

[fiery burrow]

Widow's crimes are forgiven for being an underrated S tier bossfight

[hazy spear]

Widow was tortured by other weavers right? Because she was on gms side?

[earnest drift]

she was fulfilling her role as the one to wake up her mother

[stone quartz]

which lace boss fight 🥹

[hybrid flare]

Her crimes being: string music

[earnest drift]

yes

[hazy spear]

I saw people saying she was 12th of the 1st in slab

[hybrid flare]

That doesnt justify it

[hazy spear]

Sounds reasonable

[exotic dome]

2. lace 1 is almost a tutorial boss

[earnest drift]

I know that

I was just finishing your sentence

[violet canopy]

Is this another absrad situation?

[earnest drift]

is lace worse than greyroot

[main urchin]

Greyroot is a psychopath

[violet canopy]

Someone strong I will fight later got them acting like this?

[stone quartz]

other way around i would assume. why would they torture her then make her do the opposite of their own goal. and we know the cant make her own silk so they mustve given her silk to do that. makes sense that maybe like someone or something controlled by gms did it and gave her gms's silk to haunt them

[main urchin]

And she is also the conspirator behind the extermination of an endangered species.

[stone quartz]

not a chance

[orchid spruce]

Don't hype it up, tbh... It's nowhere as exciting as Radiance

[wind mulch]

isnt greyroot just tryna have a kid

[stone quartz]

[hybrid flare]

absrad if she wasnt lazy slop

[wind mulch]

i havent done her quest tho im probaly wrong

[earnest drift]

is lace more evil than soul master

[orchid spruce]

The intro is actually very hype, though. Now, the actual fight

[main urchin]

Hell no, Soul Master is a genocidal maniac

[earnest drift]

radiance is a no eyes rematch

[earnest drift]

well so is lace

[stone quartz]

nah i wouldnt say so

[hybrid flare]

silksong is a hk rematch

[wind mulch]

soul master is an actual fucking idiot

[earnest drift]

but lace focused on the citadel which is evil

[main urchin]

Lace lives in a field of flowers. Soul Master dies in a field of corpses

[hybrid flare]

Her playing the strings is really not something that the weavers made her do, they probably locked her up even, the silk she plays isnt her own

[stone quartz]

dosent lace have 2 rematches 💀

[hazy spear]

Well yeah I said they tortured her because she was on gms side

[hybrid flare]

3

[hazy spear]

She says she was the only one who stayed loyal or wtv

[earnest drift]

doesn’t matter because she’s fun

[exotic dome]

lace is a lace rematch

[hybrid flare]

you forgot found lace

[earnest drift]

no eyes isn’t fun

[main urchin]

Radiance is a Gorb Rematch

[hybrid flare]

Radiance is quite fun

[stone quartz]

????

[hybrid flare]

But she gets dunked on by other bosses

[orchid spruce]

lace 2 is a better fight than lace 3

[main urchin]

She uses Gorb’s needles

[wind mulch]

no eyes has hella aura icl

[toxic vigil]

Yeah

[hybrid flare]

F tier take

[hazy spear]

I feel like the biggest lore misunderstanding I made when I was playing the game was that widow and first sinner were punished by weavers, not gms

[wind mulch]

its just like unsettling aura

[orchid spruce]

cold take, i know

[earnest drift]

lace 3 is a better fight than absolute radiance

[stone quartz]

oh when you said gorg i thought of marmu

[toxic vigil]

Definitely not bias

[main urchin]

Silk definitely punished First Sinner

[hazy spear]

Are we sure

[earnest drift]

lace 1 is a better fight than absolute radiance

[exotic dome]

grass is green

[hazy spear]

I thought weavers made slab

[hybrid flare]

my guy wym misunderstanding, that's probably the case

[orchid spruce]

someone didn't watch mossbag

[toxic vigil]

No..

[hazy spear]

And were mad when they got called not divine

[hybrid flare]

mossbag has faults but he isn't wrong about it

[earnest drift]

mossbag’s video was bad

[stone quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-bruh-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-higuruma-higuruma-hiromi-gif-3841012065452512308

[main urchin]

The weavers escaped likely in part because of First Sinner finding out the truth

[hybrid flare]

First sinner was mad at gms because of the lie that likely jumpstarted the weavers religion

[stone quartz]

was kinda ass

[exotic dome]

he wasn't wrong on that iirc

[hybrid flare]

and the weavers punished her for being loud about it

[earnest drift]

so was widow helping to haunt Bellhart or was she just guarding the strings while gms did all the haunting

[hybrid flare]

If she was punished my gms, weavers wouldnt leave her rotting in there

[hazy spear]

Ok so when first sinner revealed they weren't actually divine

[wind mulch]

why the weavers got those big ass heads for

[civic bolt]

You tell us Lace

[stone quartz]

i would say it makes more sense in this instance for her to have been punished by weavers

[hazy spear]

Then they would get mad their religion was false

[hybrid flare]

Post gms

[earnest drift]

if that’s the case then widow’s not that bad even though she supports the haunting

[hazy spear]

Then why is she still imprisoned and 'first of the first'

[hybrid flare]

Yeah they didn't believe her and it hurt the citadel

[exotic dome]

they keep their phone wallet and keys

[hazy spear]

So then how did gms lock her up 😭

[hybrid flare]

Im arguing that both widow and fs were punished by weavers

[stone quartz]

in the slab her jail cell has the seal of the citadel

[hazy spear]

Oh so you are agreeing with me sry

[orchid spruce]

First Sinner likely started the revolution, tbh, so probably she revealed it before GMS got sealed. But then the Weavers imprisoned her. Because her only revealing AFTER GMS is sealed just makes zero sense why she pins her anger on GMS instead of the Weavers

[hazy spear]

It's just forgo that isn't

[earnest drift]

what notable villains does hk have other than radiance and soul master

[hybrid flare]

Because she lied to her sisters who didnt believe her

[main urchin]

I thought of it as the weavers learning the truth, being mad at silk about it, silk finds out FS spilled the beans and punishes her, then the weavers pull the slumbering song

[earnest drift]

traitor lord comes to mind but he’s kind of just there

[hybrid flare]

The slab likely didnt exist at the time

[hybrid flare]

Lemm

[hazy spear]

Slumbering song was before

[main urchin]

The timeline is pretty tricky

[earnest drift]

what could he have possibly done

[hybrid flare]

breathe

[tired dune]

i see one ping from the server but no channel mentions me

what

[stone quartz]

but then why dodes it have the citadel thingie on the jail cell and why wouldnt they just free her when the overthrough gms

[lapis spade]

I just came in here to mention that

[earnest drift]

hornet and pale king are both wonderful characters but not really villains

[stone quartz]

the picture of the server just has a ping icon

[orchid spruce]

what, i said the weavers imprisoned her

[wind mulch]

pale king da goat

[main urchin]

Nosk.

[tired dune]

i fell for the oldest trick in the book AAAAA

[earnest drift]

is nosk a villain or just a wild beast

[hybrid flare]

What sense could it possibly make that the weavers sealed off first sinner after the revolution, if she started it

[stone quartz]

whats your argument andd why did they imprison her. sorry i didnt quite understand your last statement

[main urchin]

He commits psychological warfare and hangs people

[toxic vigil]

Wild beast

[wind mulch]

a wild beast with the sense to aura farm before the fight

[main urchin]

He also hangs people

[toxic vigil]

Its an animal

[earnest drift]

so not really a villain

[stone quartz]

i mean he does have to trap his prey first

[minor sparrow]

"Aura farm" yeah we got that already

[orchid spruce]

because it became inconvenient for them that she exists. this is like politics 101 kings kill off many of their supporters once they claim the throne

[toxic vigil]

Spider hanging up food

[hazy spear]

My understanding, correct me if I'm wrong.
They put gms to sleep, then made citadel to keep her asleep and made it into religion, worshiping weavers. Slab was part of citadel, so that had to be after. First sinner revealed they weren't holy, and in fear of their religion being false and stopped, weavers imprisoned her. Later haunting slowly started to happen even though gms was asleep, weavers ran away. Then gms used haunted bugs to capture weavers and bring them back, like with hornet at the start.

[knotty yoke]

I can't believe I falled for this server pfp again

[wind mulch]

yea but its like in a spidery way i think not some malicious vlad the impaler shit

[earnest drift]

nosk has no dream nail dialogue, they’re mindless

[wind mulch]

nosk is an animal yea

[hybrid flare]

If they ALL knew about it the religion likely wouldnt exist

[hazy spear]

Wait does skynx sing

[earnest drift]

what about the hunter is he a good villain

[knotty yoke]

Guys what do yall think about this elder hu being in the same tribe as shakra theory?

[main urchin]

No Eyes murdered her kids

[orchid spruce]

they all knew it and kept it among themselves. their preys are not weavers weavers are the ruling class

[earnest drift]

all he does is vibe and kill everyone

[toxic vigil]

Nope!
The haunting started after the weavers left due to whiteward and conductors using the silk.

[minor sparrow]

Also yeah, comits psychological warfare that is facilitated by its biology, happens

[balmy geyser]

this a long as hell april fools

[stone quartz]

thats not apostacy though. if they killed her once they claimed gms's rule they wouldve put another sin up instead

[hybrid flare]

Also her being mad at gms if the weavers did indeed, believe first sinner, wouldnt make sense

[hazy spear]

Oh ok mb

I forgot about conductors not being there until weavers left

[knotty yoke]

What's apostacy

[orchid spruce]

They made up a religion that they know is false, then imprisoned First Sinner for speaking against that religion -> apostasy

[hazy spear]

Ah wait isn't that something to do with religion or smtn

[cunning geode]

what’s upstacy

[hazy spear]

Hold up that might mean something

a·pos·ta·sy
/əˈpästəsē/
noun
the abandonment or renunciation of a religious or political belief.
"the execution of their leader for apostasy brought widespread criticism"

[stone quartz]

Apostasy is the formal abandonment, renunciation, or defection from a religious faith or, less commonly, a political loyalty. An individual who practices this is known as an apostate. It often involves not just leaving a faith but actively rejecting its doctrines, frequently carrying social or legal consequences in certain religious contexts. ( from google )

[hybrid flare]

Wouldnt make sense to be mad at gms if the weavers did believe her..

[hazy spear]

Hey so that kind of makes sense how first sinner is behind apostate and heretic doors

[knotty yoke]

Fr

[minor musk]

hey, so, its april second for almost 16 hours (where i live)

when yall gonna remove the fake ping lmao

[strange knot]

Groal skip first try

[stone quartz]

so now your saying first sinner's first sin was rebelling against the citadel? ( not saying its wrong im jsut asking )

[minor sparrow]

What was the other key again I forgot

[orchid spruce]

??? It doesn't make sense either way that FS isn't mad at Weavers if we're to believe FS was imprisoned by Weavers

[orchid spruce]

[wind mulch]

was the first sin not questioning gms

[knotty yoke]

They'll remove it as 2027 april's fool

[toxic vigil]

Or well.
The weavers thought they were divine but 1st sinner found out they aren't

[orchid spruce]

GMS is still the idol of the fake religion, so that's the same thing

Sort of

Not really

[hybrid flare]

She's mad at her lie, which first sinner's sisters believed, and was a big part of their religion

[knotty yoke]

What is this emoji lol

[stone quartz]

i agree completely then. It says she was denied absolution by the CITADEL meaning they were the ones that imprissoned her

[hybrid flare]

The weavers were the citadel at one point

[stone quartz]

yep so she was captured by the weavers

[orchid spruce]

Wait, do you genuinely cannot fathom the fact that the people who make up religions don't actually believe it? 👀

[hybrid flare]

chat old pharloom expansion would do wonders for this game

[hybrid flare]

Then why would she be mad at grand mother silk, if the weavers believed first sinner's word

[stone quartz]

she literally attacks hornet which is "weaver spawn"

[knotty yoke]

Why is sands of karak dry?

[hybrid flare]

Grand mother silk literally has nothing to do with it if that's true

[unkempt steeple]

Why would you want that, it was all savage lands before the holy cidadel saved it

[hybrid flare]

citadel propaganda

[stone quartz]

maybe actually i dont agree with you

i dont understand your argument fully

[orchid spruce]

Because of TC's lackluster writing in that detail

[knotty yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-silksong-this-post-was-fact-checked-this-post-was-fact-checked-by-real-citadel-patriots-silksong-grand-mother-silk-gif-15533073062746572687

[hybrid flare]

Mate your lack of comprehension isn't TC's fault

[unkempt steeple]

I will not argue with stilkin

[hazy tendon]

pretty sure because king khann died or sum so they had no one to monitor/ protect the land

[main urchin]

Or Mount Fay got the melting snow drained by the citadel

[stone quartz]

the big river dried up

or got diverted

[orchid spruce]

I think bob is just massively confused I have the same opinion he does

[stone quartz]

i am! i have no idea whos argument is whos

[hybrid flare]

PEAK old pharloom dlc vs chud water expansion

[knotty yoke]

How that makes sense? Like, if the are is unprotected then it will dry?

[knotty yoke]

Water tank dlc

[wind mulch]

the citadel could have used up the water idk

[hazy tendon]

no idea that was the first thing i thought off

[orchid spruce]

Nubie says that FS must have been imprisoned by Weavers before GMS got sealed because they didn't believe FS - because otherwise, FS wouldn't be only mad at GMS

[knotty yoke]

Do the bugs even need to drink or eat? (Nvm they need to eat)

[hybrid flare]

Khann mentions some kind of "pale light", though theres a fuckton of water flowing in high halls

[hybrid flare]

Im saying she must've been imprisoned AFTER

[hazy tendon]

i mean they have a bar

[orchid spruce]

I'm literally also AFTER team

[exotic dome]

wasnt the river going from ducts to coral gorge

[hybrid flare]

The last 2 lines of dialogue in this implies that she was the only one to know

[hybrid flare]

then????

[knotty yoke]

Bro who is this coral george?

[toxic vigil]

seems like the truth about not being divine was the sin.
1st sinner raged against gms, but the other weavers realized that it would be bad to try to do somenthing to gms bc they can't

[exotic dome]

coral john

[wind mulch]

her name implies there was probably at least a short time before others began to dissent

[orchid spruce]

I understand what you mean now

[knotty yoke]

Coral jimmy

[stone quartz]

the refrences the sin as knowing the truth so maybe it wasnt an action just being exposed to the truth. And also says "our" not sure if she means like weavers.

[orchid spruce]

There's probably a Weaver note that debunks it in one of those Sister notes that reference a giant secret about GMS

If they genuinely believe their religion, they wouldn't be all sweats about keeping this secret

They never let anyone else know about GMS

[hybrid flare]

I mean they aren't? js like normal people they can believe bs

[toxic vigil]

i mean its probably referencing other weaver corpses we can bind. but while binding 1st sinner we get transported into her memory and fight her there ( probably as just a " test " and thats it )

[orchid spruce]

If their doctrine was "We are divine children of GMS", it makes no sense that GMS is kept secret from everyone

So ugh it makes no sense

[hybrid flare]

The pontiff realized at one point and if the citadel knew that their efforts went to keeping a sealed god asleep there wouldn't be a citadel

[exotic dome]

e33 reference

[hybrid flare]

there's not a single reason as to why gms is kept secret son

[stone quartz]

she wanted them to believe that they are divine daughters when all they are is common bugs evolved

[wind mulch]

wouldn't it make more sense to tell everyone if we fuck up the music a mega evil god is gonna fuck us up

[main urchin]

Ok I thought of another villain. Flukemarm’s a terrible mom to her kids and makes them get shiny things and that likely isn’t due to infection.

[opaque hare]

guys what is lost lace even about, this mf killed me like 20 times

[knotty yoke]

She's lost

[hybrid flare]

I mean, telling people that you've usurped the ruler of pharloom and now's keeping the ruler in eternal slavery isn't a good look

[orchid spruce]

Listen, bob, you and I have the same opinion Nubbie means the weavers didn't believe they are common bugs evolved, Nubbie says weavers believed they were actually GMS' children

[main urchin]

She’s lost it

[opaque hare]

not a reason to 🍇someone bro

[orchid spruce]

which like 100% doesn't add up had I have all the games' notes here

which I also don't

[main urchin]

What

[vivid horizon]

She lost her map(s)

[stone quartz]

like at which point? they later found out which is true but they probably didnt know at for some time after their evolution

[main urchin]

Getting into the abyss makes you lose your map

[knotty yoke]

Lace lost her family

[vivid horizon]

Bro realEyes gotta realise real lies

[hybrid flare]

It literally does what, fs mentions how she's the only one to know the "truth"

[orchid spruce]

Nubbie says they always believed they are GMS' children, even after Citadel and that's why they were mad at First Sinner

[stone quartz]

idk? maybe like yuri or something

[hybrid flare]

And if the weavers religion was indeed manufactured without any of them having real belief, fs wouldn't be mad a gms

[hybrid flare]

The weavers are excessively prideful they would've 100% made a religion out of that fact

[orchid spruce]

[opaque hare]

i lowkey can sue that fkn terrorist for several mental damage to me

[vivid horizon]

Not that serious dude

[stone quartz]

i think they wouldve found out sooner or later

[vivid horizon]

Js use hunter's crest or something

[main urchin]

Skull Tyrant is a terrorist

[stone quartz]

nah just a bum.

[weak depot]

lowk just get good

[vivid horizon]

Also shrue

[opaque hare]

bro life of wanderer crest users is tough😔

[vivid horizon]

?!??!

[knotty yoke]

I read it as soul tyrant

[main urchin]

A second skull tyrant has hit the Flick statue

[opaque hare]

"i support israel"

[vivid horizon]

I swear wanderer's has some of the highest DPS in the game

[toxic vigil]

cool bench

[stone quartz]

professional bum activities

[main urchin]

Speaking of bum

[orchid spruce]

She never said she was the only one to know the truth, just checked the Wiki

[silk pumice]

i prefer beast

[weak depot]

Typa shit britany in a $5m mansion would say when asked about the challanges she faces

[vivid horizon]

Lugoli

[vivid horizon]

Ok dude

[knotty yoke]

Ass jim

[hybrid flare]

They could've, but even if they did first sinner hurt the citadel's image

[opaque hare]

xddddd

[main urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-silksong-chef-lugoli-gif-2508664972939356009

[orchid spruce]

[main urchin]

Ahh your beat me to it

[exotic cedar]

I like how the camera shakes

[cunning geode]

is there any indication in the game that the reason for the kingdom falling is because it dried up?

[opaque hare]

and what it has except it

[cunning geode]

perhaps from another group

[hybrid flare]

This is what im referring to, there's a reason as to why she deems it a curse

[opaque hare]

maybe good pogo yeah

[stuck stone]

wait the notification is a part of the profile picture?

[cunning geode]

maybe

[vivid horizon]

Yes

[stuck stone]

that is a diabolical april fools XD

[kindred cave]

yeah

[opaque hare]

but you juss cannot spam l lace with dps so that doesnt work

[knotty yoke]

I love how this dumb big ass deals double damage

[vivid horizon]

I mean, most servers do it

[hazy tendon]

not really js the first thing that came to mind

[orchid spruce]

You will be mentally unwell if you know everything the world governments keep secret. You will be cursed to know the truth. But are you the only one?

[cunning geode]

mmm alrighty

[vivid horizon]

What's stopping you!?

[stuck stone]

its the only one im apart of that did it

[opaque hare]

void

[stone quartz]

yeah but she keeps saying OUR. as if the other weavers knew but traped her for something else for for no reason. she says our rage implying that they found out to and were full of rage.

[vivid horizon]

Js dodge it icl

[hybrid flare]

Does everyone know about the messed up shit the govs do

[vivid horizon]

Use cross-stitch

[opaque hare]

imean 2x contact dmg

[light swan]

yes

[orchid spruce]

ugh, who commit the messed up things the govs do then

[cunning geode]

because i think it would be more interesting in that order.

1. something or someone intercepts water flow into Karak
2. kingdom falls because it dries up and they can’t restore it

[vivid horizon]

Then stop running into her!

Or again, use cross-stitch

[warped cloak]

sea of sorrow?

[vivid horizon]

Ask BadTie again

[hybrid flare]

"Our" because yk, they were elevated by gms, she's later also talking in singular

[silk pumice]

really not that bad

[opaque hare]

shes the one running bro

[hazy tendon]

does anyone actually use the wanderers crest beat the whole game since act 1 with it i legit cant play without it but i never saw anyone else ever actually use it

[orchid spruce]

also, "everyone" isn't the opposite of "only one", the opposite of "only one" is "two or more"

[silk pumice]

i beat crust king khann solely by parrying the contact damage

[main urchin]

1 year ago today we got Silksong news

[vivid horizon]

Then chase her!

[stone quartz]

bro youve dealt with this for an entire act. its not even like a supprsing fact that the true ending final boss has double damage

[strange knot]

Time to fight definition of overrated

[hybrid flare]

Then why aren't there 2 or more locked up weavers

[steep jolt]

the loading screen counts as a scene called "quit to menu"

[orchid spruce]

because they are in on the lies

[opaque hare]

they wasnt fckng lace that shows performance like prime king von or sum bro😭

[opaque hare]

im not maniac

[warped cloak]

@still osprey he lies a lot, always says tomorrow :(

[vivid horizon]

???? There's no other way to hit her if you don't chase her down (except for red tools)

[queen field]

without contact damage

[main urchin]

C l a w l I n e

[orchid spruce]

that's like asking why half the us government is still free

[queen field]

life would be too easy

[hybrid flare]

Why would first sinner be mad at grand mother silk and her lie specifically, if the weavers didn't believe it

[vivid horizon]

Helped me so much on my beast attempt vs LL

[orchid spruce]

because of tc's lackluster writing. if this is the only detail carrying your theory on its back, it may be wrong

[opaque hare]

i dont want to hurt anyone
im doin pacifist route

[strange knot]

Ez

[hybrid flare]

Mate why make it so convoluted for yourself, the evidence's right there

[vivid horizon]

How did you get to act 2 then?

[steep jolt]

fuck you mean pacifist route 😭

[opaque hare]

with power of friendship and love

[strange knot]

“And this gun I found, the gun is killing the not me”

[silk monolith]

chat i got glue all over my fingers am i cooked

[hybrid flare]

Besides, the evidence you give isnt interpreted correctly in the context given

[stone quartz]

it implies her rage is against silk. it wouldnt make sense if the citadel has been made and developed but then she shows them the truth then shes angry at silk. why is she not angry at the weavers. And if you believe that then what do you think kicked off the rebel against silk. why do you think they did it?

[hybrid flare]

Glue?

[vivid horizon]

Ok so which old heart did you not violently rip out

[opaque hare]

secret ending where laciel dreemur sacrifices herself for world

[steep jolt]

hop on

[orchid spruce]

because i'm 80% sure this theory contradicts lots of things in the game

[hybrid flare]

She's angry at silk because she fabricated the lie that the weavers believed

[hybrid flare]

It literally doesn't

[vivid horizon]

Path of pain 2.0 pls!

[silk monolith]

pacifist route lmao thats js you living in bone bottom for the rest of your life

[hybrid flare]

tweaked there

[opaque hare]

lets not talk about that.

[vivid horizon]

That was so pacifist of you!

[hybrid flare]

The weavers likely rebelled out of either mistreatement or because of pharlid nature bs

[stone quartz]

but then the weavers denied her claim and trapped her for it and she is not angry at them?

[opaque hare]

well they were alr dead soo

[strange knot]

70%

[vivid horizon]

Karmelita?

[hybrid flare]

Because again, she sees gms at fault for making up the basis of their beliefs

[strange knot]

In steal a soul

[stone quartz]

pharlid nature bs????🙏 🥹

[opaque hare]

shes oldahh

[silk monolith]

elder abuse

[whole mortar]

yippieeeeee

[hybrid flare]

it makes more sense for her to be mad at gms in this context than in the "weavers did actually believe her but got her locked up for wtv reason"

[vivid horizon]

Quit this pacifist BS and defeat L

[whole mortar]

da silky!

[strange knot]

Congrats

[vivid horizon]

Congrats

[silk monolith]

shi i should unsubscribe maybe

[vivid horizon]

Evil!

[main urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-gerson-boom-gerson-i'm-old-im-old-gif-13265713427338879500

[humble surge]

bluesr how do you feel about silksong if it was sekiro

[stone quartz]

they had already trapped gms so she could have satisfaction at that and you still dont think that she would feel any resentment at the weavers

[vivid horizon]

I think you replied to the wrong msg

[opaque hare]

but lace is my friend

[stone quartz]

congrats!!!

[vivid horizon]

That's not lace bro, she lost herself to the void

[silk pumice]

congrats

[main urchin]

You replied to the Oldaaaahhh message

[vivid horizon]

I see

[vivid horizon]

So you've murdered over 1000 bugs and now you suddenly have a heart

[opaque hare]

i will think about it

[strange knot]

Using volt pogos for general movement is actually so fun

[main urchin]

Well lace is no big

Bug*

[humble surge]

sekiro mod progress, this feels pretty smooth to play ngl

[orchid spruce]

@hybrid flare "This low, her gaze escaped. Prepare, sisters. Weave hope anew. That we might break free this accursed web born of our naive foundation." I wunder wut naive foundation tis could be

[wheat lion]

Did yall have a notification but didint see anything where yall we tagged too? Just yestarday/today

[strange knot]

Did this volt pogo first try lmao

[vivid horizon]

Oh wait true, but hornet is still a murderer

[silk monolith]

chat should i continue with nine sols or should i start another steelsoul run that im gonna die to like a damn crawlid 5 hours into

[opaque hare]

actually no i just antirevived them so its not counted as kills

[wheat lion]

Nine sols

[silk monolith]

wait i thought they patched vogo out

[stone quartz]

yeah so we should be more motivated to kill her!!!!!

[steep jolt]

when purple sr

[strange knot]

Yeah I’m on older patches

[vivid horizon]

"pretty smooth" Slideshow when you hit and parry something

[silk monolith]

damn had my hopes up

[wheat lion]

Did yall have a notification but didint see anything where yall were tagged too? Just yestarday/today. Cuz i thibk i have discord bugged

[silk monolith]

why would they patch it out lmao its hard enough that not everyone is gonna use it

[stone quartz]

part of its dc picture ( prob forgot to remove it for april fools )

[humble surge]

when you play it its actually satisfying ngl

[orchid spruce]

[vivid horizon]

Will it make me silk my song

[steep jolt]

yall need to join me bruh

[arctic epoch]

What do you think about Uro's fighting capabilities?

[silk monolith]

lmao ts literally nine sols

[main urchin]

Oro?

[wheat lion]

Yes but yku will also become a knight, but ur also gonna be hollow

[humble surge]

sure will

[humble surge]

thats what im talking about

[main urchin]

Wait this isn’t about Hollow Knight

[vivid horizon]

So I will become some sort of "Hollow knight"?!?

[stone quartz]

in terms of jjk ranking special grade but in terms of pure feats i would say VERY high grade 1 but not special

[wheat lion]

Say that again...

[stone quartz]

she does have good combat but is mostly carried by sky manipulation

[vivid horizon]

that again

[silk monolith]

what are we some kinda silsong

[vivid horizon]

Maybe

[arctic epoch]

I feel like the way she used her technique was underwhelming to say the least

She clearly sent Yuta flying blocks away, bending attacks with ease and even move the surfave around her without even showing any motions

<>-<>... just weird

[strange knot]

Omg I actually saved all fleas

[silk monolith]

lesgooo

[vivid horizon]

Hurrah!

[stone quartz]

fair

[wheat lion]

Now say i will a new record on E-0

[vivid horizon]

I will not be able to set a new record on E-0

[silk monolith]

e-0? trackmania?

[wheat lion]

Yes u will, believe in it

[hybrid flare]

Is this cindril harp?

[toxic vigil]

just realized you can get this WAY before getting a bellhome

[vivid horizon]

Idk if we're talking about the UK level or something else

[strange knot]

o7

[orchid spruce]

Weavenest Atla tablet

[vivid horizon]

I'm not built like that

[silk monolith]

yeah lol

[orchid spruce]

Anyways time to play Blasphemous 2 so I can complain about it

[stone quartz]

...

[steep jolt]

genuinely stop reccomending me miku

[steep jolt]

shakra dies

[stone quartz]

stop denying peak and just accept it and listen to it

[stone quartz]

..no?

[steep jolt]

i wanna listen to asgore

[hybrid flare]

Literally could imply their capacity to contain gms, not related to the religious context whatsoever im pretty sure, and idk what exactly could this tablet be talking about, i guess them communicating to the other weavers to flee while others remain to contain gms?

[vivid horizon]

Bro this tale got me under the weather

[orchid spruce]

"naive foundation"

[hybrid flare]

How is this related to them not believing they're gms daughters?

[orchid spruce]

ugh anyways, i'm no longer interested in discussing silkslop

[steep jolt]

im giving you MEGA LOVe, ANd I Am sorry for you

[orchid spruce]

then what naive foundation are they talking about

[hybrid flare]

How is it a naive foundation when they dont even believe

[hybrid flare]

Their capacity to contain gms

[orchid spruce]

This was when they were gonna start the revolution They naively believed they were GMS children

[dawn narwhal]

Why is the fake ping on the dc icon still here
Nvm its gone
-# who else hated it tho

[short wren]

What's your guys favorite silksong boss

[vivid horizon]

Split between karmelita and LL

[dawn narwhal]

Watcher At The Edge

[orchid spruce]

blasslop time

[hybrid flare]

This is likely before the sealing or very early citadel, and yk, this is talking about their kind not being bound to gms/the citadel no more, that's why they tell the others to start anew

[hybrid flare]

The only memorable fight will be available after 20 hours

[orchid spruce]

blas2?

[still osprey]

That's such a never heard of take I really respect it it's a very underrated boss

[hybrid flare]

ye

[short wren]

@hybrid flare SISYPHUS PRIME

[orchid spruce]

wow, as expected from slop

[hybrid flare]

Who? im broccoli prime

[vivid horizon]

When sea of sorrow!?!

[short wren]

AAAA

[hybrid flare]

This is likely the most artistically or thematically rich game you'll ever play

[short wren]

SHOOTITSHOOTIT

[still osprey]

Sea of Sorrow is literally coming out tomorrow

[hybrid flare]

Only behind blaslopous 1

[strong fox]

why are the fleas at such shitty location

[errant lion]

ultrakill IS tuff fr

[stone quartz]

i feel like a beast build would be better for that

[strong fox]

mountain
bilwater
blasted steps
ducts

[short wren]

yo Sisyphus prime took me 83 attempts on standard

[exotic dome]

death animation was funny

[light swan]

not the best but very good uhhh idk what else to say

[strong fox]

what even is thi

[orchid spruce]

if i want just that, i'll just go read a book if gameplay is bad then game also bad

[hybrid flare]

I P-ranked odysseus

[hybrid flare]

The gameplay's not bad, nine sols a great game despite having 2 memorable bosses

[light swan]

she uses her technique really well but doesn’t have like the raw boxing or strength capabilities as like ryu

wirhout her technique she’s nothing and im sure some people woudl like that

[hybrid flare]

I've been exposed to too much peak to remember

[short wren]

The gameplay is amazing what are you on about

[orchid spruce]

blasphemous 1 was horrid

[steep jolt]

moss mother

[knotty root]

#Ultrakill-discussion is down the hall and to the left

[orchid spruce]

i heard blas2 has better gameplay so i'm giving it a shot

[hybrid flare]

mfs when they cant do 430 air combos

[patent heath]

Very true.

[orchid spruce]

sorry sir, that's a strawman you're talking to. i'm over here

[exotic dome]

blas1 was good too except the part that hitting spikes kills you instantly

[hybrid flare]

Hey it's good gameplay, maybe not as fast paced as your elitist ass would like but still

[light swan]

some people like things different amounts than other people

why are we insulting because of it

[hybrid flare]

Calling it horrid's a bit much

[orchid spruce]

that's still not me sir um, turn around like 45 degrees

[light swan]

what if they just find it horrid and not fun and a bad game?

[hybrid flare]

Weird, i must've been talking to someone else then

[light swan]

i thought blasphemous 1 was like average

[hybrid flare]

Well it objectively isn't "Horrid"

You can say you didnt like it, but it's not horrid

[light swan]

how can we be objective about subjective tastes

[hybrid flare]

Why make out subjective facts as objective

[light swan]

was wrinkled towel trying to do that

[orchid spruce]

it's ok, strawmen can eat you if you aren't careful, watch out next time

[hybrid flare]

Interpreted as such

[light swan]

@orchid spruce i want your answer

[orchid spruce]

do what

[loud kite]

🍤

[light swan]

say that your subjective tastes are objective facts

[orchid spruce]

an opinion is always subjective

[hybrid flare]

Mio is horrid

[orchid spruce]

uhm sure

[hybrid flare]

Really does sound like smt you would impose as truth

[light swan]

so were you doing that or not

[orchid spruce]

is your opinion not an objective fact to you you can acknowledge both this and that others have a different opinion

[plush plume]

yoo,

[light swan]

valid

[orchid spruce]

if you believe the world is not flat, that's an objective fact for you

it's also just an opinion

[light swan]

i think it’s completely fine to vehemently believe that blasphemous 1 is horrid and there’s no reason to attack you for such unless you’re out here offending people

[hybrid flare]

False equivalence honestly

[hybrid flare]

I agree, however it should be worded correctly

[light swan]

sure but you understand the meaning now dont you?

[hybrid flare]

Now i do yes

[rugged solstice]

chat its the one year anniversary of the cake drama and the nintendo direct where silksong was shown. hk-general knows nothing about this i guess. Im not crazy right?

[orchid spruce]

are you sure the world is not flat? there's a nonzero chance you're a brain in a jar on a flat planet, hallucinating this universe

[copper crescent]

No this is a important discovery

[orchid spruce]

things you perceive as truths are always opinions because of human limitations

[still osprey]

What are you talking about? Nintendo hasn't shown anything silksong related since the reveal trailer

[hybrid flare]

Laws of physics disagree, and that's an oddly specific scenario

[orchid spruce]

we can both acknowledge this and that we, as a civilization, tend to favor some opinions more than others

[hybrid flare]

There's also a nonzero chance and you're also just not a thing

[orchid spruce]

that universe may have different physics laws

[rugged solstice]

Do you know what an anniversary is?

[still osprey]

Yea nintendo hasn't shown anything silksong related in years...

[hybrid flare]

So far for literally 99.95% of things we observe are cohesive to them

[still osprey]

Team Cherry said the next news we here will be from them

I'm so excited for this game to release eventually!

[rugged solstice]

Did i state otherwise?

Ur confusing me

I simply noted that it's been one year since Silksong was shown at the Nintendo Switch 2 direct

[orchid spruce]

[vivid horizon]

Imagine it cut to absolute radiance title screen

[still osprey]

Tf is a nintendo switch 2 😭 That literally didn't happen we're just making shit up now

[rugged solstice]

[light swan]

wait theres a nintendo switch 2???

[rugged solstice]

this might be the longest it's ever taken me to notice bait

[hybrid flare]

there is a possibility that a discovery is made that flips everything upside down, but at that point, does it really matter?

[orchid spruce]

we choose to believe in certain opinions and solidify them as facts because they're useful

you and i have similar opinion on this, it's just you're misunderstanding me

[normal bramble]

Switch 2????

Why would they even make a switch 2 fr

[sinful compass]

whats nintendo?

[normal bramble]

Sounds like the greatest waste of time ever

[hybrid flare]

All of the things that are considered absolute truths are limited to our perpection, likewise, objectivity is also limited to it

[vivid horizon]

Switch 2 electric boogaloo

[heady canyon]

what's silksong?

[orchid spruce]

anyways, i understand what you're trying to get through. in societal framework, to claim "x is bad" as an objective fact is offensive because it signals that others' opinions, especially who think otherwise, are invalid. this has no real relation to whether said opinion is objective fact in the metaphysical sense, especially for things as vague as "bad", which is why our conversation is drifting away from its original point

[queen acorn]

switch? i want a switch, too

[normal bramble]

Say that again…

[queen acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/noticing-eyes-emoji-suspicious-suspicious-cat-huh-gif-14251529880851075061

[steep jolt]

is ts tuff

[queen acorn]

bro used a skill

[hybrid flare]

Using the sigh on someone else's opinion that isn't just abhorrent's kinda insulting tbf

[vivid horizon]

Hunter crest = SO TUFF!!!!

[queen acorn]

bro used abhorrent

no hate bro I’ve never seen this used

[orchid spruce]

Just tired from arguing over a nothingburger

[quartz gulch]

Technically almost no tool is inherently objectively bad, considering they all do something. And to some that specific thing might be very good, hence making the tool good and giving it value.

[fiery burrow]

I abhor people who don't use that word ngl

[hybrid flare]

A bloodborne boss engraved this word into my mind

Because of how... abhorrent the boss was

my spelling is tweaking

[fiery burrow]

This could apply to any bloodborne boss

Mid game

[hybrid flare]

The 3 best bloodborne bosses are the 3 best bosses i've ever fought

[hybrid flare]

Lwk it has a lot of flaws but theres also stuff to like

[fiery burrow]

Guy who's only played bloodborne 🥀

[hybrid flare]

son 💔

[fiery burrow]

Nah idk I didn't finish the game

[orchid spruce]

i don't disagree with what you said, i probably agree with it if my understanding of it is correct, i'm just tired from arguing over nothing. didn't mean the sigh as you're stupid or something.

[exotic dome]

real bloodborne fans never play the game

[hybrid flare]

real X fans never replay the game

[orchid spruce]

anyways, time to blasphemous 2 for real

[vivid horizon]

This is so blasphemous!

[hybrid flare]

Didn't even reach the first boss btw

[sinful compass]

just hooting and hollering

[hybrid flare]

I can understand since the early game makes the rest of it seem like slog

[orchid spruce]

omg, he said the title

[fiery burrow]

I beat the second boss thank you

[vivid horizon]

He SAID THE THING!

[fiery burrow]

Both were slop

[hybrid flare]

oh you did?

Gascoigne is pretty good though the gun's hard to react to

really good at teaching you how to bloodborne

[orchid spruce]

is blasphemous 2's dlc any big

the mea culpa thing

[crude geyser]

Can I give an hot take ? Lace 2 is more fun than lost lace

[orchid spruce]

mostly negative oh wow

[hybrid flare]

Its the biggest dlc

[orchid spruce]

i think this is lukewarm

[hybrid flare]

Lukewarm to 100 celsius take

[orchid spruce]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[fiery burrow]

MIO fans will look you dead in the eye and tell you this is interesting combat

[hybrid flare]

Its not bad, it's just the first dlc that you have to pay for

[crisp crane]

lace 2 feels like a more honorable duel

[crude geyser]

Like lost lace is harder but is way less fun than lace 2

[orchid spruce]

FIRST?

[hybrid flare]

This is you btw (maybe)

[orchid spruce]

Are there even more DLC

[hybrid flare]

No, like the dlcs for b1 are free

[crisp crane]

lost lace is still a good time though

[hybrid flare]

and 2/4 of the dlcs are better imo

[orchid spruce]

Can we not call updates DLCs, it's confusing

[vivid horizon]

Discord PLS let the vid load

[hybrid flare]

Yeah ik ik

[vivid horizon]

Omg

[hybrid flare]

Wounds of eventide and the new game plus bosses are technically "dlc"

but theyre part of the game sooo

[silk monolith]

||ayo ji is a old femboy?|| gahddamn

[orchid spruce]

spoiler that shit

[silk monolith]

no one knows what im talking about

ts extremely out of context

fine

[orchid spruce]

good boy

[silk monolith]

fuck off

[orchid spruce]

[silk monolith]

I wipe my balls with a wrinkled towel

[quartz gulch]

What the fuck?

[orchid spruce]

[vivid horizon]

Js came to the channel btw

[quartz gulch]

Real, what the fuck is the context?

[hybrid flare]

NINE SLOPS

[strange knot]

I love farming rosaries aren’t we all?

[still osprey]

Yessss I loooove fighting Grand Reeds for 30 minutes straight 🤑 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

[strange knot]

[light swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1481335365414424597/caption.3e6bea82.gif

[strange knot]

Should I get witch crest rn in steal a soul? I already got crying baby

Oh k I guess farming can wait

[exotic cedar]

What the hell is a steal a soul

[still osprey]

Cursed in steel soul sounds terrifying

[silk monolith]

it takes 5 minutes and some rosaries js do it

[orchid spruce]

just remove shards entirely from the game, replace shard rewards with rosaries. game 20% better already.

fixes both a bad system and game economy improved

[strange knot]

It’s not that bad tbh

[toxic vigil]

And nerf red tools

Red tools are too OP

[vivid horizon]

The beastlings are so cute 🤗

[silk monolith]

but how you gonna get hornet statuette

[light swan]

id never want to use red tools if they took rosaries

[orchid spruce]

nerf red tools and free-to-refill at benches

[strange knot]

Btw I already got 80% only 13 left for max% act 2

[toxic vigil]

Free to refill

Tbh i never use red tools

[orchid spruce]

architect will refill 35% of the tools on bind

[last pebble]

Ok you silk singers

[vivid horizon]

The humble rosary cannon:

[toxic vigil]

?

[last pebble]

I need your silk singing

[strange knot]

I even completed the quest for long claw omg 2nd time in life

[still osprey]

I lowkey don't mind shell shards at all I usually have more than enough

[silk monolith]

yo dude do these dialog options matter in nine slop

[exotic cedar]

Just remove silksong from existence. World %100 better already

[last pebble]

What else can I get in shell wood apart from clingy grip

Mantis claw

[toxic vigil]

Cursed

[orchid spruce]

||only one matters the rest is ugh an illusion of choice but immerse yourself||

[silk monolith]

mask shard 1 flea

[strange knot]

There’s 2 tools

[safe venture]

april fools y'all

[vivid horizon]

You can get some wood covered in shells

[quartz gulch]

I will always disagree that rosaries are hard to get most the time and the complainers just don't put in enough effort.

[toxic vigil]

Mask shard

[last pebble]

Cursed?

[last pebble]

HUH WHERE

[safe venture]

greymoor farming spot

[silk monolith]

2 tools and uhhhh 1 crest

[last pebble]

Brehh

[vivid horizon]

It's a real accursed place I tell you

[quartz gulch]

Pollip Pouch, which some rando will now shit on for no reason.

[last pebble]

Just tell me silksinger

[safe venture]

nice way to advert the spoiler

[safe venture]

ppouch over vfilament

[strange knot]

Man fighting grand reeds after you got almost every rosary rock, almost every rosary string and almost every chest is so fun

[last pebble]

Bro i forgot about that quest

[toxic vigil]

Are you just after the cling grip or?

[vivid horizon]

Do you WANT to know?!

[exotic cedar]

No

[narrow dagger]

daddy of the flame was a good boss fight imo

[safe venture]

no it wasn't

[vivid horizon]

@still osprey

[last pebble]

Yeah I skipped sister something and went for the cling grip

[toxic vigil]

Solution: Savefile editing

[quartz gulch]

Fuck farming spots. I travel by foot and slay everything dropping rosaries, and then I complete some wishes and boom I'm rich.

[cerulean sable]

This is the only thing that matters to me

\

[last pebble]

I meanbi am already in smell wood

[cerulean sable]

we need to kill it faster

[toxic vigil]

Oh yea.
Well go to above bellhart

[smoky dagger]

I think they were easy to farm but I don't really enjoy any contained single player experience forcing me to go refight the same enemies 500 times with no changes
I think I had to pause what I was doing to go farm for rosaries almost every time I needed any which is just bad

[quartz gulch]

Tag Mehieddin if anyone for this.

[hybrid flare]

Man the chinese translation quality at release really did harm silksong's ratings

[last pebble]

And how do I do that

[strange knot]

Without deaths btw bc it’s steel soul

[narrow dagger]

yes it was

[safe venture]

lol

[toxic vigil]

With cling grip

[cerulean sable]

iiwiis

[smoky dagger]

They just don't come as naturally as I think they should

[vivid horizon]

Hi!

[last pebble]

OHHHH

[safe venture]

YOUR OPINION IS WORTHLESS

[last pebble]

Why are you blue

[cerulean sable]

your Bungie game is more worthless

fight me

[fiery burrow]

HK still being at 9k players is wild dude

[quartz gulch]

Just traverse by foot and kill. Or spend five minutes in the citadel roaming around and about. Or just selectively buy the bare minimum that you need and do wishes. Relics. Treasure Rooms.

[cerulean sable]

former mod

[vivid horizon]

Cause he's so cool!

[last pebble]

Oh ok mod singer

[cerulean sable]

i think a big thing is currently how expansive 7 years of mods it is + pantheon grind

[last pebble]

Ah makes sense

[cerulean sable]

HK atm has a lot more end game atm

i mean

makes sense 🥴

[hybrid flare]

ZE GODHOME

[cerulean sable]

i dont think Silksong will have end game until 2+ years from now

[vivid horizon]

Still haven't done steel soul or P5

[fiery burrow]

I replayed it in like december and had a blast

[cerulean sable]

ahhh children and end games amirite

[hybrid flare]

Silksong's ratings would be slightly worse or equal to HK if the chinese translation was good on release

[cerulean sable]

the ratings doesnt really matter to me tbh

[strange knot]

7 hours in and I have 80% sub 10 hours 100% is so doable

[hybrid flare]

Yeah they're worthless kinda

[cerulean sable]

its more that these 2 games can out compete with these games

(and mostly just for me to hate on Destiny 2)

[safe venture]

the what

[quartz gulch]

They'd be worse because more "artificial difficulty, wah wah" complaints.

[cerulean sable]

yeah you better run

ngl

[hybrid flare]

Sloppy shooter vs 2 PEAK indie metroidvanias

[cerulean sable]

i dont think the difficulty discourse was as big as it actually is

[safe venture]

PEAK

[hybrid flare]

It's a vocal minority

[cerulean sable]

yeah

[smoky dagger]

all I'm saying is the farming takes me out of the game and feels stupid
At the end of doing EVERYTHING in silksong EXCEPT for buying out each shop my 100% grind basically ended with just farming rosaries and clearing shops for several hours
obv I lost em throughout the game and didn't perfectly hold my geo but I just think that farming is ass fr
Same with the geo farming required in hollow knight
Weakest part of first playthrough for both games

[hybrid flare]

Theres quite a bit of chinese playerbase though

[vivid horizon]

I don't see how any of it is artificial 😭

[hybrid flare]

shell shards suck

[cerulean sable]

i feel like the chinese translation hurt the ratings more (justifiable) than the difficulty discourse

[quartz gulch]

I know, but they fucking piss me off with their skill issue selves. Get good like the rest of us did and stop complaining.

[hybrid flare]

it was somewhat fair at release though

[quartz gulch]

It isn't, that's the thing.

[toxic vigil]

Imo there was barely any geo farming in hk.
A few lemm relics and you got almost everything

[safe venture]

cough *"bilewater" * cough

[safe venture]

divine

[hybrid flare]

the game offers several "easy modes" even if people dont realize it, still, just like elden ring with the spirit ashes

[rotund gate]

w wiki

[vivid horizon]

Bilewater isn't THAT bad

[rotund gate]

wha

[quartz gulch]

Only hazards I guess, and the two bosses. Not the rest that remains though.

[hybrid flare]

SHELL SHARDS

[rotund gate]

oh my god why am i in sk discussion

[smoky dagger]

First playthrough you obviously lose more and don't have the like 30k geo required for unbreakable charms I think 99% of players had to go farm geo

[vivid horizon]

execution

[toxic vigil]

Ignoring unb charms

[smoky dagger]

Did you fr not have to first time

[cerulean sable]

remember when Sea of Sorrow popped out the response in the overall place wasnt "i hope this DLC doesnt go overboard" to "I CANT WAIT TO FIGHT A FUCKING SUPER BOSS THAT WILL KICK MY ASS IN" kinda deal

[quartz gulch]

The fuck do you mean??? She literally says the Grimmchild is evil.

[rotund gate]

yeah thats the point 😭

[safe venture]

your april fooling right?
right?

[smoky dagger]

That's not really fair that's what I'm complaining about

[toxic vigil]

Also i played and i lost money a few times but never had to grind

[quartz gulch]

No problem with them, personally.

[cerulean sable]

BW i found to be fine too

[toxic vigil]

Oh then thats fair

[hybrid flare]

This game needs superbosses i love the concept

[quartz gulch]

Weirdass kink (not you, I know).

[orchid spruce]

do i need to learn blasphemous 1 lore for blasphemous 2

[safe venture]

your username makes you perfect candidate

[vivid horizon]

2500 Hp

[hybrid flare]

Have you seen the true ending?

[rotund gate]

not to mention i took ts screenshot yesterday so yeah it was a joke

[hybrid flare]

That's p much all you need to know

[orchid spruce]

i refunded the game after 2 hours

[hybrid flare]

low

[vivid horizon]

5000?

[hybrid flare]

bum behaviour, anyways go watch it on yt or smt

[orchid spruce]

nothing can convince me to play blasphemous 1 unless 2 is like very good

[orchid spruce]

okie dokie

[vivid horizon]

real test of endurance

[safe venture]

nah a boss that spawns 10 groals as an attack

[quartz gulch]

Personally I could just buy all shops out in Act3 (only the ones I couldn't do earlier) and am still left with 5900.

[vivid horizon]

Js use cross-stitch smh

[hybrid flare]

B1 to b2 ending spoilers ||Basically you kill the god that was controlling the miracle and the miracle creates a new idol for it to recover power and do wtv||

[orchid spruce]

thanks dude

[hybrid flare]

||The god that you kill in b1 indulges in suffering and the miracle by itself doesnt have much agency i think||

[orchid spruce]

ok i see

[cerulean sable]

what if Blasphemous 2 had chicken and rice

would you like it

[hybrid flare]

it does

[cerulean sable]

i think you would

[hybrid flare]

But they're all people

[cerulean sable]

wtf

[safe venture]

really

[orchid spruce]

i like eating chicken rice

[silk monolith]

does blasphemous have cats

[orchid spruce]

[safe venture]

i was left with 14000

[hybrid flare]

nine sols does go play that

[silk monolith]

literally doing that rn lmao

[safe venture]

it does i'll play that then after ori

[silk monolith]

where is the best place to farm jin

[hybrid flare]

i swore to play mio but i started replaying elden ring and got hooked 💔

[orchid spruce]

you don't need to farm jin

[silk monolith]

ion wanna recycle Shaun coin

[exotic cedar]

There's an achivement for it

[cerulean sable]

also this is a very very minor "sounds like a you problem" pet peeve kinda thing that overall doesnt matter but its like the 10th doctor kinda deal

but im glad you cant pet the Bell Beast because im always ticked off when its some indie advertises their stuff like "SEE YOU CAN BE WHOLESOME AND BY PETTING OUR ANIMALS PLEASE BUY OUR GAME" which isnt really bad because hey, you want all the visibility that you can get, but its one of those trend i just roll my eyes on with how everyone jumps into it

so it was funny that TC was like "oh just hit her, thats like petting her"

[silk monolith]

sjit

[orchid spruce]

the game doesn't punish "mistakes" just do whatever, there's probably an achievement for messing up

[silk monolith]

pogo is pet

[hybrid flare]

They could make it pettable but tc wouldn't advertise the game as such

[hybrid flare]

(theres some missable content i think)

[cerulean sable]

They could make it pettable but tc wouldn't advertise the game as such

[hybrid flare]

the almighty SPOILERS ||headless xingtian||

[orchid spruce]

i mean, depends on how you define 'missable'

[silk monolith]

thats why im literally checking the map every time I get a new ability or I beat a boss

[orchid spruce]

that's not really "missable", tbh, ||it's a result from a questline||

or at least my understanding of "missable"

[hybrid flare]

Yeah but how the fuck are you supposed to know its there

[orchid spruce]

||character icon on map||

[hybrid flare]

Ive done the questline i think and its in a very specific place

At one point of no return in which the objective is made clear

[light swan]

this is whjy mio is the goat

[hybrid flare]

and there's not much incentive to explore

[hybrid flare]

fr?

didnt know that

[orchid spruce]

||there's character icon for both shanhai & chiyou if you finished their questline after ponr|| nine sols endgame spoiler

[cerulean sable]

still dont think stray deserves any award

[exotic cedar]

Me when im recording something but my laptop closes the recording mid fight

[hybrid flare]

What abt ||headless xingtian?||

[orchid spruce]

||headless xingtian is where chiyou is ||

[hybrid flare]

I forgot entirely that game existed

[cerulean sable]

it was a wholesome chungus game

[hybrid flare]

i didnt do the questline completely then

[orchid spruce]

i think you just forgot some details about the game

fortunately, there's a nine sols nerd around to uhm actually you

[hybrid flare]

mid ahh questline forces me to spend a bunch of money

[orchid spruce]

[vivid horizon]

You can't find her, she's lost

[tight hull]

wdym she's up there

[unkempt steeple]

Who else hated the city of steel dlc? Making it steel soul exclusive is so stupid

[hybrid flare]

||Shennong's questline left me in crippling debt||

[exotic cedar]

I don't like when games do that

[hybrid flare]

Fr, and the final boss is so fucking hard like what are we doing

[orchid spruce]

[unkempt steeple]

So hard for no literally no reason and it's locked behind a platforming section harder than pop

[tight viper]

I found her, she’s right there

[tight hull]

hollow knight but it is roguelike

[hybrid flare]

Deadass tc listened to our cries and made us suffer

[cerulean sable]

silksnog needs a pop equivalent

[unkempt steeple]

"Equip this minicharm for +25% nail length"

[cerulean sable]

where youre racing up a abyss pillar/tower

[sharp tundra]

Road of misery

[cerulean sable]

road wouldnt work

roads are like

[tight hull]

what

[rotund gate]

song of demise

[sharp slate]

tbh nine sols did money rarity perfectly unlike silksong

[cerulean sable]

horizontal

[vivid horizon]

What am I looking at

[sharp tundra]

Tower of misery

[unkempt steeple]

Web of torment

[exotic cedar]

Nine sols wasnt that grindy unlike silksong

[tight viper]

Silksong rosaries are fine

[hybrid flare]

Sonistan💔 😭

[cerulean sable]

a much better name

[tight hull]

jack stauber type of shit

[vivid horizon]

Heretic 💔 😭

[tight viper]

There are plenty of rosaries available around Pharloom

[rotund gate]

Peasant 💔 😭

[sharp slate]

at the end of the game i only needed i think 1000, which is nothing, it was SOOO nice

[hybrid flare]

Insignificant fuck💔 😭

[sharp tundra]

How are they broke then

[sharp slate]

debatable

[rotund gate]

Creature of steel 💔 😭

[vivid horizon]

Divine judge of hell 😭💔

[exotic cedar]

You can get money pretty easily by fighting enemies

[rotund gate]

Apostate of hate 💔 😭

[sharp slate]

if you get all the collectables in silksong its not even enough to purchase everything that includes EVERY ROSARY ROCK and you get every rosary from those rocks