sk-discussion

[slim jetty]

Idk my brain tired

[rocky jolt]

theres probably a bunch of snowflakes there anyways

[slim jetty]

True the community is not the worst

[vale whale]

im crine we unironically calling people snowflakes in 2026😭😭

[slim jetty]

I’ve seen worse

[lusty grove]

?

[rocky jolt]

youre crine

[graceful oyster]

Kid named crine

[slim jetty]

Anyways imma go bye chat

[lusty grove]

bye

[slim jetty]

Alright I guess I’m back

I found the biggest Alexa

We’re cooked

[lusty grove]

Allexa

[slim jetty]

Anyways gonna look at fridges now bye chat

[lusty grove]

"we're doomed, anyway I gotta go look at fridges"

[exotic cedar]

Yo holy shit it sherm a

[kind tide]

Erm, guys?

[copper arch]

@queen maple

[spice cargo]

is this sherma

[exotic cedar]

First one is deserved, the other one is even more deserved

[kind tide]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-cute-dance-hollow-knight-silksong-gif-2885488124335295136

[charred ruin]

what did sherma ever do to hornet vro 💔

[kind tide]

shaw

[vale whale]

https://tenor.com/view/roland-library-of-ruina-roland-lor-roland-library-of-ruina-lor-gif-11391962207707394077

[hardy tangle]

wheres the other one

[vale whale]

its been SO LONG

SINCE IVE BEEN TRULY ACTVE HERE

[hardy tangle]

for like a couple days if you searched up hornet in the new gifs and scrolled down you saw straight corn

[vale whale]

bro fuck you dyno

[spice cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-k1-it's-been-so-long-give-gifts-give-life-gif-8364139576849290210

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-surprised-hand-shakes-head-shocked-gif-26479804

[vale whale]

PEOPLE ARE STILL POSTING WEIRDOBAIT HORNET GIFS AND MAKING STUPID SHAW JOKES

ITS BEEN SOOOOO LONG

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-kamehameha-meme-speed-kamehameha-gif-3504385717540383658

[lusty grove]

tf's weirdobait

[tulip spire]

Do you think we’ll get dlc power creep or nah

[subtle lynx]

Silksong if it was a good game (leave kratt alone)

[vale whale]

those hornet videos where they give her unrealistic human proportions to appeal to a specific type of people

[spice cargo]

idk whats wrong with people

[tulip spire]

HK didn’t really have it except for unbreakable charms

[lusty grove]

they're horn-y

[tulip spire]

Because grimmchild SUCKS

[subtle lynx]

No

[subtle lynx]

All dlc charms suck

[spice cargo]

I half hope so

[exotic cedar]

What is a power creep? Is it kratt if he was strong?

[lusty grove]

it's a single player game

[lusty grove]

Carefree Melody

[subtle lynx]

Single player games need to be balanced

[hardy tangle]

if team cherry made a straight up undefendable kid liker character would people like you still defend it

[charred ruin]

carefree melody is better than magnetite dice

[vale whale]

bro its a JOKE

im crine😭😭😭

[tulip spire]

It’s just a term used to describe how newer things that are released tend to be stronger than older things due to the need for new things to be impressive

[subtle lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/tuff-gguh-ai-baby-sona-meme-gif-15767759709245242383

[hardy tangle]

ik but to what extent would people jokingly defend a character

[tulip spire]

Single player games can still have power creep

[vale whale]

yeah like how shaman is typically the last crest and therefore the most unskilled flashy bullshit

[hardy tangle]

like is there a limit to that shit

[exotic cedar]

intersting

[spice cargo]

new crest that combines architect and shamman

[tulip spire]

Well no it was released simultaneously

[hardy tangle]

new crest that does nothing and kills you instantly

[lusty grove]

we're not defending Kratt, but he already got beaten up to Bilewater and back

[vale whale]

when the character is just a weirdo perv😭😭

[charred ruin]

gacha games

[tulip spire]

So it’s not power creep

[lusty grove]

he doesn't need to be punished any more

[vale whale]

it's typically the last crest most people get on their run

[lusty grove]

also he learns his lesson afterwards

[subtle lynx]

Facts and logic? In my silksong chat?

Get out

[charred ruin]

no he still tries to sneak peeks at hornet in flea bounce

[vale whale]

kratt is just a creepy weird loser jokingly defending him is fine

[hardy tangle]

we are not defending him bro

[subtle lynx]

I didn't look at it like that

[slim jetty]

Who is Kratt?

[hardy tangle]

but its unfunny

[vale whale]

i thought kratt just wanted to get hit

[lusty grove]

does he? he seems to be just playing around regularly

[exotic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/kratt-slapped-hornet-slaps-kratt-flea-slapping-flea-slap-hornet-slaps-flea-gif-4404608508552191080

[subtle lynx]

Same

[slim jetty]

Ahh

[charred ruin]

that and hes just a freak highkey

[slim jetty]

Still hadn’t played silksong yet

[vale whale]

same thing

[hushed girder]

My angel, fractured skull is mine. After three close calls

[tulip spire]

Yeah power creep involves release cadence. It’s like how mega pokemon are fucking busted because they were trying to blow players away with their power. Then they made mega rayquaza to try to sell ORAS DLC and it is to this day the most broken pokemon of all time

[slim jetty]

Cause I am trying to beat Skyrim

[vale whale]

THE FINAL BOSS IS THE SHADE LORD

THE TRUE FINAL BOSS IS MEGA HORNET

[slim jetty]

Spoiler plz

[hardy tangle]

hornet defeats the pale king

[subtle lynx]

This chat is spoiler free

[slim jetty]

/j.

[vale whale]

THE ENDING IS HORNET NO DIFFS THE SHADE LORD AND SAVES PHARLOOM FROM ABSORBJNG HALLOWNEST

[slim jetty]

I’m well aware

[lusty grove]

he doesn't seem to be doing anything malicious

[tulip spire]

Because it’s supposed to be the coolest mega which was already building on something that was created to be strong and exciting

That’s how power creep happens

[slim jetty]

That it is all a joke :3

[subtle lynx]

I think he's just like teasing you

[vale whale]

THE TRUE ENDING IS PALE KING IS REBORN AS THE PALEWYRM AND FUSES HORNET WITH THE SHADE LORD SND DESTROYS THE WORLD

[charred ruin]

trying to peek under hornets cloak

[subtle lynx]

Not really

[hardy tangle]

shakra thinks hornet is a kid so canonically hornet looks like a kid so kratt is an omega creep

[lusty grove]

please tell me what part of his pose even implies that

[earnest drift]

kratt deserves to have each of his cells put in separate containers

[tulip spire]

If your new content were the same or worse than your existing content would you want to buy it? No

[vale whale]

LACE DIES IN ACT 2

[exotic cedar]

This is true, it happened to me yesterday

[vale whale]

re8?

[charred ruin]

hes got eyes unlike most of the small fleas

[subtle lynx]

Nah bruh, he's not lace

[exotic cedar]

And then kill the cells, so it becomes... dead cells

[earnest drift]

he's worse than lace

[hardy tangle]

add an extra electron

[vale whale]

lace is lucifer compared to kratt

[slim jetty]

Yo is that the lace from silksong

[subtle lynx]

He wasn't chill with the whole world dying

[lusty grove]

and Nuu can recognize Hornet as a grown-up, and Shakra is the only character in the game to call Hornet a kid

[subtle lynx]

Lace was though

[earnest drift]

a manic serial killer is better than a creep

[lusty grove]

maybe Shakra just thought "short=child"

[hardy tangle]

cus nuu herself is a kid

[lusty grove]

???

[subtle lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[hardy tangle]

kratts a grown ass dude

[earnest drift]

hornet gets called a kid by a lot of characters

[vale whale]

son

[hardy tangle]

im crine

[slim jetty]

[vale whale]

kratt is a weird perv lace kills people for fun

[lusty grove]

like...? (I genuinely don't remember)

[earnest drift]

most notably white lady, mr mushroom and grand mother silk

[lusty grove]

ah, yes
the million years old characters

[earnest drift]

a lot of characters also call her miss or missy implying she looks young

[hardy tangle]

they all like 800 million years old aunties

[icy crow]

Murdering Kratt Simulator now available on Steam for $2

[lusty grove]

or that she looks single

[vale whale]

white lady because she's literally her mother

[earnest drift]

what does this mean

[tulip spire]

Hornet herself is an 800 million year old auntie

[lusty grove]

Hornet canonically looks like she has no game

[vale whale]

mothers call their grown children their little guys its affectionate

[subtle lynx]

Ok bud, that's enough facts and logics

[void moat]

do they call her child because she's a kid or because of her kinship

[earnest drift]

she's immortal so it makes sense she'd still look like a child

[hardy tangle]

they should add a character called gratt who respects hornets privacy and is kind to all

[earnest drift]

like the other two characters in similar situations

[storm shard]

Whatever bro

[exotic cedar]

Kratts EVIL brother

[icy crow]

She's half immortal considering she can canonically die in a fight

[subtle lynx]

That's implying kratt is a good guy, which I agree with

[tulip spire]

Age discourse in hk is kinda pointless

[subtle lynx]

Son

[tulip spire]

Everyone is like a million years old

[lusty grove]

Kratt is not innocent, BUT he learned his lesson after one (1) slap in the face

[void moat]

not really

[charred ruin]

i mean she looks like she physically hasnt changed at all since at least when she was still being raised by white lady and pale king (given shes still short as hell and her mask hasnt changed at all in red memory w white lady)

[exotic cedar]

I didn't really mean it like that, send kratt to become a sacrifice

[icy crow]

Just one?

[storm shard]

Not true

[near breach]

Why do people ship lace and hornet

[icy crow]

Did you not play football with his corpse

[tulip spire]

Okay everyone important is

[earnest drift]

yes

[subtle lynx]

They are perverts just like kratt

[earnest drift]

as i was saying, lace is better than kratt

[lusty grove]

he learns his lesson regardless of wheter or not you do it

[icy crow]

We don't

Pinned messages

[slim jetty]

Idk

[void moat]

because they did it before release and cant cope with the fact that lace is a child

[earnest drift]

because she has character beyond being a creep

[storm shard]

Pinned 👀

[lusty grove]

as I was saying, Lace is a murderer and has killed hundreds

[near breach]

Ahh ok

[turbid kayak]

just realized that in the new patch notes, hunter’s focus doesn’t get reset by quick travel 🎉
let’s go

[storm shard]

Not a very high bar

[earnest drift]

they were part of the citadel they deserved it

[lusty grove]

she kills random Pilgrims

[subtle lynx]

Yeah it's nice

[earnest drift]

all pilgrims are trying to join the citadel

[subtle lynx]

The random pilgrims?

[vale whale]

lace slaughtering random people on tuesday at 2 pm:

[subtle lynx]

And lace kills them...

[earnest drift]

yes that's what the pilgrimage is

[void moat]

precisely

[tulip spire]

Didn’t Hornet kill like a bunch of vessels

[subtle lynx]

They deserve to get killed???

[vale whale]

dawg theyve been taught their whole life the citadel is awesome😭😭😭

[exotic cedar]

Someone should redraw this but its lace
or hornet riding bell beast

[earnest drift]

yes

[lusty grove]

cuz they've been brainwashed by a cult

[void moat]

yeah

[charred ruin]

honestly hornet isnt much better she kills hella creatures too even if she doesnt need to

[earnest drift]

yes

[icy crow]

The Knight lowkey more innocent than Hornet and Lace smh

[subtle lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[void moat]

unironically hornet is probably one of the most evil characters in silksong

[earnest drift]

me when the fascist dictatorship acts like a fascist dictatorship

[void moat]

like 2nd most evil

[subtle lynx]

Omg not this shit again

[near breach]

I'm pretty sure there's still alive weavers in hallownest

[lusty grove]

ngl you're wrong

[earnest drift]

this is true if you don't count whatever tf happened in embrace the void

[near breach]

Or atleast 1

[vale whale]

would you kill people trying to go to their cult's heaven just because their cult's heaven is actually evil and horrible but their whole life's purpose has been going to their cult's heaven because everybody has told them how cool it is

[subtle lynx]

So true

[void moat]

ngl im right

[subtle lynx]

You're the only reasonable guy here

[earnest drift]

sherma is more evil than lace

[vale whale]

she's racist

[lusty grove]

oh and btw Lace doesn't kill because of that, she just wants to

[earnest drift]

because he worships the citadel

[icy crow]

Lawful evil, neutral evil or chaotic evil?

[exotic cedar]

Sherma deserves death

[lusty grove]

and the Conductors invented genocide

Khann is fascist

[hardy tangle]

that one we saw in hallownest is prob still alive yeah

[vale whale]

nonono im saying this person thinks they deserved it because theyre going to the citadel

[void moat]

i havent a clue

[earnest drift]

hornet has done a lot of horrible things but she's done enough good things to put her in morally light grey imo

[icy crow]

I guess Shade Lord just destroyed Godhome though you can also save Godseeker apparently

[vale whale]

hornet killed broodmother specifically to end the slabflies' existence, she is the main spawn point

[void moat]

team cherry felt real tuff throwing away hornet's entire ideology in silksong

[subtle lynx]

To the race that captured her and innocent bugs and tried to kill her? I thinks that's a good reason

Besides, why do we even care about she being racist towards the flies when she literally kills them and their mother like that gets always ignored and we just need to think for 3 seconds to realize that is much worse

[lusty grove]

GMS enslaved an entire kingdom

[vale whale]

the capture is optional

[storm shard]

She saved a whole kingdom I think she’s in the clear

[earnest drift]

hornet's hatred of the slabflies is complexity not contradiction

[subtle lynx]

They would capture her if they are allowed to, that's relevant

[earnest drift]

and a hint as to why the weavers locked up the flies in the first place

[subtle lynx]

And they still try to kill her the moment they see her

[vale whale]

hornet hates the slabflies because theyre stinky and ugly and she tries to exterminate them by killing their main progenitor

[subtle lynx]

I support hornet

[lusty grove]

they were probably forced to by the Haunting or smth

[storm shard]

Hornet’s hatred towards the slab flies is justified

[lusty grove]

btw, all actions done by Haunted enemies are not their own

[void moat]

id say true, but no tc goes ut of their way t make a journal entry that entirely conflicts with her views in the first game

[earnest drift]

i think this is why the weavers locked them up in the first place
they smelled bad

[vale whale]

does hornet know that if a random slabfly floating around the sla sees her in public they woulf try to lock her up

[subtle lynx]

The haunting makes bugs do the same job

[lusty grove]

AND kill people

[subtle lynx]

They know that they would try to kill her because THEY TRY TO KILL HER

[earnest drift]

because of her weaver side

[void moat]

"We do not choose our mothers, or the circumstance into which we are born." herrah in beasts den, first game

"Foul creatures birthed into servitude. Their plight elicits no sympathy from me." scabfly journal entry

[void moat]

this is never stated ingame and is entirely headcanon to make hornet look better, also this means all weavers are racist at birth

[vale whale]

hornet never shows hatred for an entire race of bugs because a few of the bugs of that race she encountered tried to kill her

with the sole exception of the slabflies of ocurse

[hardy tangle]

i mean she was captured and got stripped nekked by the flies

[lusty grove]

it's not like Pebb would have tried to kill Hornet regardless of being Haunted

[earnest drift]

the weavers locked the flies up for a reason, and i think hornet's hatred of flies hints as to that

[vale whale]

oh and she murders the NEWBORNS

[subtle lynx]

That literelly proves you wrong, cause hornet has sympathy for bugs that were birthed in unfavourable conditions but make good choices despite that whilst flies are just evil

[void moat]

she can be angry but to the extent she is ingame is too far

[earnest drift]

fellas is it illogical for spiders to be malicious towards flies, their natural food source

[vale whale]

optional

[lusty grove]

the Weavers locked the flies cuz the flies's great great great great grandparent commited a sin

[earnest drift]

they undressed her while she was unconscious so it's pretty much impossible to sympathise with them

[icy crow]

The Slab literally is just what would you call a torture camp for war prisoners in a dictatorship

[subtle lynx]

Oh yeah, killing the flies and their mother is fine but calling them disgusting is going too far😭 😭

[void moat]

the slave characters are simply evil, despite them being haunted.. hm!

[lusty grove]

they were Haunted

[subtle lynx]

What are we saying

[earnest drift]

the haunting doesn't erase the bugs' old behaviour

[vale whale]

bro thats part of the racism she did that shit with the intention kf wiping them out 100%

[subtle lynx]

Yes??? Do you think the slab was just a playground before the haunting???

[lusty grove]

but it does create new ones

[subtle lynx]

Are we fr

[hardy tangle]

might be an overlook

[earnest drift]

gms didn't have any reason to remove hornet's cloak, the flies did it because they're disgusting

[void moat]

i think making the slave characters out to be pure evil is frankly disgusting

[earnest drift]

the choir didn't remove her cloak why did the flies have to

[vale whale]

can you not make my bug game about this shit you sicko

[hardy tangle]

tc prob made the slab capturing thing before deciding to make it optional

[vale whale]

tjey justwanted goodies and trinkets dont be a freak

[void moat]

why would the flies remove hornet's cloak lined with sharp spines and filled with tools of death!

[lusty grove]

to weaken her

[vale whale]

i swear motherfuckers just say dhit

[earnest drift]

what right do they have to do it

[subtle lynx]

The guy who thinks killing is fine but draws the line at being racist👆

[icy crow]

Can we all agree the Slab is a torture camp for war priosners and that's it 🙏

[earnest drift]

is anyone with a weapon expected to be okay with having it removed

[vale whale]

" oh yeah the slabflies are disgusting weirdos who removed hornet's clothes because theyre creeps not because they like trinkets and shinies "

[void moat]

heard people make the slab sequence out to be an sa plotline which is genuinely disgusting ✌️

[vale whale]

tf😭😭 when did i say that

[void moat]

ts is not what my point is ✌️

[lusty grove]

yes! yes they do! it's basically a weapon and the Slab is a prison!
"oh, but did the police really need to take that person's weapon-filled belt out?"

[vale whale]

hornet kills slabflies because she's racist to them she's evil as fuck

[earnest drift]

the slab flies aren't police they're corrupt

[vale whale]

so weird man

[subtle lynx]

Constantly you have issues with hornet being "racist" but never ever mentioned having a conflict with killing them

[icy crow]

Considering they're the ones who piss her off first I think it's fair that she murders them

[subtle lynx]

Or maybe it was the other guy

[lusty grove]

the Slab fly that locked Hornet is basically a police-like force

[hardy tangle]

theyre born as prisoners and die as prisoners, id be pretty miserable if i was a slabfly

[void moat]

hornet kills people all the time, it's no big deal, the problem is with the journal entries, it comes off as real bad taste

[hardy tangle]

they get paid more than underworkers tho

[subtle lynx]

Ok bud

Hard disagree

[vale whale]

no killing is bad

like its just

bad

[hardy tangle]

why didnt the citadel just make an underworkmother that made underworker children who worked for the underwork for free for eternity

[vale whale]

genius

[void moat]

it gets to a point when hornet says she feels no pity for the child slaves and proceeds to want to genocide them

[lusty grove]

yeah that is correct

[subtle lynx]

They could just be stealing the rosaries from their prisoners btw

[vale whale]

yeah they definitely do that

[hardy tangle]

what prisoners

[vale whale]

thats why they take their trinkets and shit

[void moat]

this did NOT need to be in the game team cherry

[vale whale]

yeah the NEWBORNS

[soft belfry]

Wasn't she concious in the cage it only blackscreens for us

[hardy tangle]

the slab has like nobody in it other than flies and this one npc nobody gaf about

first sinner is a rotting corpse

[subtle lynx]

Also, the citadel doesn't exist anymore, so flies don't need to keep the slab going, they could leave without consequences

[lusty grove]

Silksong is a game where killing hundreds of innocent but enslaved bugs does not have the same moral weight as in real life

[vale whale]

yeah i odnt see why she would be knocked out even the special choir cage didnt knock her out

[subtle lynx]

And all the other prisoners that attack you?

[hardy tangle]

the dog looking dudes?

[soft belfry]

Tbf she's a hunter and most of us feel no pity for muckmaggots when we get the entry

[hardy tangle]

i thought those were like animals

[lusty grove]

cuz that's the core gameplay loop and making it morally wrong would make the whole game more uncomfortable

[void moat]

theyre all haunted they cant leave even if they wanted to

[subtle lynx]

What?

[charred ruin]

slabfly probs stank so bad she passed out 😭

[storm shard]

Let’s not forget when hornet killed a gay couple for no reason

[vale whale]

imagine

[soft belfry]

Well they don't know that, by the time the information might have been widespread the haunting was spread far

[charred ruin]

hornet survives bilewater but not the stench of slabflies

[vale whale]

the slabflies have a decent job if you think about it

[rose trail]

https://tenor.com/view/city-boy-gravity-falls-cityboy-city-gif-7883969618059930120

[subtle lynx]

Yes that

[void moat]

no they dont

[vale whale]

if they dont kidnap demon paleweavers they get cool clothes, cool weapons and easy money

[amber leaf]

what does this have to do with anything

[soft belfry]

When we unblackscreen, we see hornet sitting awake in the cage iirc

[hardy tangle]

you look at that an tell me that thing had a single bit of rosary when coming in

[vale whale]

and a bunch of trinkets

[subtle lynx]

Why wouldn't they? Lol

[rose trail]

BOIII TS SO GREEN PRINCE 🤨🤨🤨🤨😅😅😅😅😅 VERDANIA AGARTHA z🤨🤨

[subtle lynx]

All pilgrims have rosaries with them

[void moat]

theyre slaves, they dont get paid, theyre stuck in the slab with no bathing quarters, unknowingly victims of religious psychosis 😭

[soft belfry]

Apparently they drop more rosary than underworkers 💀

[rose trail]

yeah but they're alive

[vale whale]

yeah but they can steal money and clothes and trinkets off of innocent pilgrims

[hardy tangle]

ok so the slabflies arent even taking it

[charred ruin]

have you seen how much u get paid if you run on the treadmill with loam

[void moat]

they have no use for money at any point in their life theyre born into slavery

[subtle lynx]

Wow, I feel so bad for them

[rose trail]

https://tenor.com/view/city-boy-gravity-falls-cityboy-city-gif-7883969618059930120

[vale whale]

dont their job is sick

[soft belfry]

I've seen someone else do it

[subtle lynx]

It was sarcasm lol

[soft belfry]

It's sarcasm...

[rose trail]

lace is just a terrible fight in general

[vale whale]

yeah but they cana have cool.clothes and weapons and trimkegs

office jousting at the slab is awesomd

they even have a pool table

[rose trail]

king von for silksong

[soft belfry]

It's like having more rosaries is a status symbol it's like having social credit

[icy crow]

https://tenor.com/view/honest-reaction-not-funny-unfunny-gif-23922490

[void moat]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hell-naw-hell-naw-dog

[charred ruin]

ofc the slabflies gonna have more money than underworks bugs the underworks bugs are basically sweatshop workers

[rose trail]

rosaries are just beads created into fake religous emphasis and therefore used for wages and they're really religously cool and that means the citadel is messed up

[rose trail]

https://tenor.com/view/syndrome-tuff-internet-supervillain-tuff-gentleman-redditor-gif-17379150560306107376

[icy crow]

Underworkers literally suffer more than Slabflies

[void moat]

theyre both groups of people forced into slavery

[vale whale]

JOE MAMA A SLAVE CHAINED UP TO GIVE BIRTH TO SLAVE BABIES🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[void moat]

neither has it worse or better

[rose trail]

slabflies have more rosaries (status)
slabflies can sit on a bench anytime
slabflies aren't constantly working and are always sleeping

[charred ruin]

slabflies probs just take the rosaries from their prisoners mean while underworks bugs gotta use their rosaries on a fucking bench 😭

[rose trail]

joebroodmama 🤨🤨🤨🤨

[vale whale]

breaking the confession bot is funny tho

[rose trail]

then why do they have so little

[icy crow]

Just sit on the floor gng

[soft belfry]

Counterpoint, underworkers can sit on top of other underworkers

[rose trail]

https://tenor.com/view/syndrome-tuff-internet-supervillain-tuff-gentleman-redditor-gif-17379150560306107376

[vale whale]

me and the underganf digging out timmy's mangled corpse from a cogwheel to make a flesh bench:

[rose trail]

bruh

[hardy tangle]

i wonder if everywhere else in hollow knight bugs use geo but only in pharloom they use rosaries

[soft belfry]

It's soft you can't lie

And if they're still alive you can take turns

[rose trail]

me and the undergang when we lowkey see a cogwork bug about to shred us into mindless pieces of flesh so i lowkey js hhhfasdhhsfhshfdh 😅😅😅

[rose trail]

https://tenor.com/view/males-haduh-gif-3346317461364735873

[vale whale]

sorry ??

[soft belfry]

They probably have their own thing I'm ngl

[charred ruin]

probs limited to hallownest as pale king is the one who gave the bugs of hallownest knowledge and turned them into a civilization in the first place

[hardy tangle]

why would sly want geo if he cant buy anything with them

[rose trail]

https://tenor.com/view/cityboy-cityboys-city-boy-city-boys-city-boy-city-boy-gif-1728226775662477911

[rocky jolt]

Why is fight to fun

[vale whale]

greed

[soft belfry]

That one pilgrim type looks squishy

[rose trail]

there are probably couriers we don't see in-game that supply all the food

[icy crow]

This is sincerely not funny mate

[vale whale]

the second part dawg what donyou mean😭😭

[rose trail]

as to why THEY need food is to order from their coworkers and vice versa

[rose trail]

https://tenor.com/view/city-boy-city-boy-instagram-jxbtty-gif-7643045933702623931

[hardy tangle]

why would cornifer/iselda who are travelers want geo if they can only use it in a dead ass hallwonest

[rose trail]

i know it's not funny it's like the only gif i have somewhat close to a reaction image

[vale whale]

bigger house

[soft belfry]

Assuming skong mechanics are consistent sitting on a bench like object will refill hp

So they could sit on each other for survival

[hardy tangle]

js saying shi

[vale whale]

cornifer sleeps on the fucking shelf😭😭

[exotic cedar]

Can we kill these type of people /j

[rose trail]

again, they're there for even longer than the knight is in their brand new journey so, they order from couriers we probably just don't see on screen

[soft belfry]

Cos...they live at hallownest at that moment

[hardy tangle]

elderbug would prob just give you any house cus nobody lives in dirtmouht anyway

[slim jetty]

What

[hardy tangle]

and what would they spend that geo on

[vale whale]

cornifer sleeps on the shelf

[rose trail]

again, they're there for even longer than the knight is in their brand new journey so, they order from couriers we probably just don't see on screen

[vale whale]

he has no bed

[rain horizon]

Silk

[rose trail]

https://tenor.com/view/when-someone-ships-me-with-geometry-dash-geometry-dash-tuff-tuff-aura-gif-13940589581442705531

[rain horizon]

Song

[soft belfry]

Maybe gear upgrades idk like a stronger quill and paper

[rose trail]

solksing

[hardy tangle]

ok i saw it the first time bubba

[soft belfry]

Food etc

[rain horizon]

This happens

[vale whale]

actually about food cornifer makes it

he brings home stuff and cooks it

[rose trail]

THE INGREDIENTS??

[vale whale]

and it smells really bad

[rose trail]

oooooh right he tried to cook stuff from fungal wastes

[vale whale]

probably a good cook

but he shouldnt be bringing homd mushrooms from " mushroom garbage dump "

[charred ruin]

does cornifer meet the level of ass jim

[rose trail]

well i don't doubt he's ordered some ingredients right? the citizens need food, pale beings "lack the need for sustenance" according to hornet, and there are pondcatchers for meat and more

[soft belfry]

Is fungal wastes named fungal wastes by the knight, cornifer or the pale king's regime

[minor sparrow]

so for some reason

[soft belfry]

To be fair, it was a lot of mushrooms

[minor sparrow]

one of my mods is half breaking

[rose trail]

by the pale king's regime, it's literally just the "fungal wastes" of the "royal waterways"

[vale whale]

cornifer is always out and about he probably gathers himself

[hardy tangle]

arent there signs everywhere

we cant read those signs but theres signs

[slim jetty]

I just don’t ask questions

[soft belfry]

Do the signs actually say that though or is it just the title card of the area

[hardy tangle]

so its menderbug hes the one who invented all the names of areas

[rose trail]

fair enough, there's some food like in the dinner table with that one grub being blocked by a large knight

[void moat]

im really excited for the sbr anime tomorrow ngl

[hardy tangle]

what else would the signs say

TO MUSHROOM AREA --->

[minor sparrow]

my first sinner is kindaaaa

[soft belfry]

Turn left for geo, turn right for traitor lord

Or something

[vale whale]

does anybody remember that one ama where tc mentioned something about an iselda dream fight

[hardy tangle]

traitor lord? 😭

[vale whale]

that would have been so cool

[soft belfry]

Isn't that lost sinner mod

[minor sparrow]

yes and no

[vale whale]

cross stitch slop mod

[minor sparrow]

the mod for some reason is half activated

[soft belfry]

How do we help you with these half answers

[light swan]

i never realized how cool the needles look, is that custom

[minor sparrow]

like the spears are being modified but everything else is the same

[soft belfry]

What else do you have on

[minor sparrow]

i don't think so?

let me turn off the mod

[vale whale]

pale needles have always looked cool

[minor sparrow]

lost & chained, awakened gms, some crest stuff

and pantheon of pharloom so i can refight

[minor sparrow]

most if not all of the stuff currently on was on when I first beat lost sinner

[void moat]

son put my GOAT magnus strong in nothingburger tier ✌️✌️✌️

[hardy tangle]

who is bro 😭

[minor sparrow]

unn only in fine? you're getting slimed out

unn best higher being

[hardy tangle]

tf does unn even d

[earnest drift]

are we feeling more mature now

[void moat]

also caretaker is way too low why is he in ass tier

[minor sparrow]

what?

[hardy tangle]

give you a mid charm and leave

[soft belfry]

Is there other sinner mods or skin mods?

Might be the pantheon doing stuff

[minor sparrow]

no other sinner mods, no

[hardy tangle]

oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi

[void moat]

hoooyyyyyy

[hardy tangle]

caretaker also loses crazy aura when he takes off his outfit

[vale whale]

but HNW has aura

[hardy tangle]

like hes so chopped

[void moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-npc-caretaker-waving-gif-1296244235196704295

[minor sparrow]

create greenpath and qg, pretty cool overall

[hardy tangle]

mst chopped shaman

[minor sparrow]

also she's just pretty chill

[vale whale]

he gave his clothes to a little boy and left butt naked thats tuff

[soft belfry]

Less to do with him and more to do with the absolute aura of the outfit

Sherma massive glowup fr

[exotic cedar]

Lmao

[hardy tangle]

ik but it doesnt make me feel anything less than it should

unns just a character that exists

shes mroe depressed than chill

[minor sparrow]

nah that's normal

don't question the tool setup, idk wtf was going on with this save

[light swan]

tghose spears are so cool

[scarlet karma]

raise mask maker bro he’s goated

[hardy tangle]

using every brain in my cell to figure out what this is an abbreviation of

[hardy tangle]

vaguepost king

[scarlet karma]

?

[hardy tangle]

thats the tier name

[amber leaf]

@amber leaf stop pinging me

[amber leaf]

@placid rover

how did you send an image

s

[hardy tangle]

you have to send 300k messages

[amber leaf]

shit

im nowhere close

[earnest drift]

where is the hk shaman

[hardy tangle]

yeah you might as well give up

[hardy tangle]

great

[minor sparrow]

idk, showing up, spitting up a charm and then dipping is pretty chill

[hardy tangle]

cus he has aura and is chill

[amber leaf]

i havent played silksong since december whaaat its been THAT long?

[earnest drift]

imo he should be down in ass

[slim thorn]

is it normal or some mod?

[hardy tangle]

cus youre the god of shit takes

[earnest drift]

after knocking you out with a spell he imprisons you and makes you do pest control

[hardy tangle]

higher being btw

[earnest drift]

none of the other spells knock tk out he did it on purpose

[amber leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1175966341153423370/1469828681818968260/realgif.gif

[hardy tangle]

couldnt like dream up the charm

had to spit it out now its covered in gross unn saliva

[minor sparrow]

uh, yeah?

[hardy tangle]

thats tuff and aura

[minor sparrow]

a good chunk of the higher beings are dickheads

[hardy tangle]

just shows you his power

[minor sparrow]

unns pretty chill in comparison

[hardy tangle]

lets you know right off the bat hes the boss here

[earnest drift]

radiance sucks, gms sucks, unn is a bum, pale king was good but also sucks, white lady is pale king, nightmare heart is neutral, shade lord is stupid and I wish they didn’t exist

[hardy tangle]

nmh is gonna take over the entire world eventually

genuinely nobody is stopping it

[earnest drift]

but is that a bad thing

[minor sparrow]

technically you could have

[slim thorn]

i need a mod that makes fight against all of them at once

[earnest drift]

what harm does the nightmare heart do

[hardy tangle]

it kinda possess random people and forces them to be its slave

[minor sparrow]

and you probably still can as long as no one perpetuates the ritual

[hardy tangle]

you just get rid of it from hallownest

[slim thorn]

they nourish on decaying kingdoms so their followers probably try to help on that decaying process or something?

[hardy tangle]

its not dead

[earnest drift]

is grimm’s bloodline not directly created by the nightmare heart?

[minor sparrow]

i didn't say that it did, but that would help in stopping it

[earnest drift]

he seemed pretty willing to continue the chain but idk

[hardy tangle]

the masks? brumm?

[slim thorn]

i think they meant people like

brumm

[hardy tangle]

grimm is just nmh baby

precious son

[earnest drift]

idk how brumm joined it, if he was coerced or voluntarily

[hardy tangle]

the dead bug we see another bug like that can come back to hallownest

the dead bug we dream nail to get them to hallownest

[ripe haven]

Yo guys

[slim thorn]

maybe voluntary but no longer likes it?

[earnest drift]

that’s what I thought

[hardy tangle]

idk how that thing died and how it works i doubt you need a dream nail user to get the troupe to places

[earnest drift]

what about the grimmkin guys where did they come from

[hardy tangle]

possessed probably

[minor sparrow]

sure, but again, as long as no one keeps the ritual going you can probably stop them

[hardy tangle]

the mask can transform bugs

[earnest drift]

so they’re part of it against their will

[minor sparrow]

is that likely to happen? nah, but can it? sure

[daring basin]

we got a spammer in the ol' sk-discussion?

[hardy tangle]

likely

[earnest drift]

yeah that’s bad

[minor sparrow]

?

[spice cargo]

does hornet beat Spiderman

[earnest drift]

still funny how the god of nightmares is much morally better than the god of dreams

[hardy tangle]

theyre everywhere so spreading the word will be impossible

[minor sparrow]

oh i see what you mean

not you joni, the other dude

[earnest drift]

is the hollow knight a higher being

[daring basin]

there was a message and it said "message hidden from a probable spammer"

[earnest drift]

if so I think they’re the most morally good higher being

[hardy tangle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ninja-7

[minor sparrow]

yeah i saw

[hardy tangle]

higher being + higher being = higher being

[minor sparrow]

technically the vessels would be whole higher beings, yeah

[earnest drift]

so the hollow knight is the morally best higher being and possibly the morally best character in the series

[hardy tangle]

the knight is a higher being

can someone tell me otherwise im genuinely curious how the knight cant be a higher being

[earnest drift]

void heart gives them control over the void (supposedly)

[void moat]

they are

[earnest drift]

after getting void heart a thing in the abyss calls them “lord of shades” so they’re already the shade lord

[hardy tangle]

knight at the start of the game and every vessel

[earnest drift]

every other vessel is a higher being but they’re weak and nobody

[hardy tangle]

the vessels are just very weak higher beings

[earnest drift]

like genetically they’re higher beings, by strength they’re below the average bug

[hardy tangle]

higher beings these words are for you alone thing is just proof the knight is a higher being and every vessel like it

hornet has the most kill counts on higher beings

[earnest drift]

unless! the player is separate from the knight! and the knight cannot read the tablets! but the player can! and the player is a higher being!

[earnest drift]

wait what about pale king

none of the vessels really died they became shades

[hardy tangle]

if we get a third game i hope we just stumble across a random vessel

who just escaped hallownest like the knight but never came back

[charred ruin]

i thought the vessels were just always empty

until imbued with a shade

[earnest drift]

I’d only be okay with this if they aren’t given any plot relevance

just a cameo

[hardy tangle]

its a shaman game and theyre pretending to be a shaman cus shamans and vessels look pretty similar

[charred ruin]

does the vessel include like the limbs and body or is it just the mask

[hardy tangle]

can we just get a shaman game

[charred ruin]

can we get more shaman content in general

[earnest drift]

I do not see the resemblance

[earnest drift]

I’d fw that actually

[hardy tangle]

theyre black and mostly small with white eyes

[earnest drift]

having a protagonist who the audience hates could be interesting

that’s what breaking bad did

[hardy tangle]

why would they hate

[earnest drift]

because shamans are bad people and always backhandedly tripping up the other protagonists

[hardy tangle]

are they born like that though

what if we just play as a kid shaman

[earnest drift]

I don’t know but we’ve met four of them and all of them were assholes

[void moat]

i dont think the shamans are really meant to be hated, caretaker and bell hermit can come off as assholes but those are individual character traits

[hardy tangle]

its justified tbh

[void moat]

the ancestral mound shaman is chill as hell too

[hardy tangle]

their relatives often get captured and tortured

why would they trust anyone thats not their own kind

[slim thorn]

kinda scammy but hey i got gun as a spell

[earnest drift]

the ancestral mound shaman isn’t good either he knocks you out and refuses to let you go until you be his exterminator

[hardy tangle]

also snail shaman gives you a whole ass SPELL bro i think cleaning up his dirty house is better than paying 8000 geos

[hardy tangle]

groal killed for something like vengeful spirit this dude just gave it out like nothing

[earnest drift]

giving payment without specifying the task and keeping someone locked up until they do the task is still very questionable

[hardy tangle]

and then if you come back to him with more spells hes chill asf and talks to you normally

[charred ruin]

howling wraiths is free

[hardy tangle]

if i was given 1 millio dollars but forced to clean someones house id celebrate like hell yes

[slim thorn]

its ok, i would have done the task anyways and i got no mind to care after all

[earnest drift]

is vengeful spirit worth 1 mil

[hardy tangle]

you take it from a rotting corpse

robbery is free yes

[earnest drift]

did salubra steal shaman stone

[hardy tangle]

i like to think she has some connection with shamans

cus she seems very knowledgable

and does soul stuff with her blessing

[earnest drift]

oh yeah that

[noble fractal]

lowk

[earnest drift]

since shamans deal with soul I wonder what their views on pale beings are

we already know they wanted to destroy gms

but what about pale beings in general, the masters of soul

[hardy tangle]

what if og shaman just wanted to clean up his house to test the knight if hes worthy of the spell and hes done it countless times with other vessels

[earnest drift]

so that’s why they’re all dead

why did hornet forget how to sprint

does she ever sprint in hollow knight

[hardy tangle]

she fell and broke her leg

[slim thorn]

i wonder what could have happened if soul master and groal werent so aggresive with the shamans
what could have they developed? soul master had an endless suply of bugs to kill for soul and experiment after all

[charred ruin]

i mean she can run at you in hk for a dash attack

[earnest drift]

would the shamans be cool with mass murder for soul experimentation

[hardy tangle]

they already know a lot about soul so probably not

but they'd be cool with mass murder for void experimentation

[earnest drift]

yesterday someone pointed out its possible groal also extracted soul from corpses, not just from the shaman
“their souls are ours”

[hardy tangle]

shaman just gave him the ability to use those souls or collect them

[earnest drift]

with the shade soul shaman, does it imply soul master was trying to learn how to combine soul with void next

if he was infected that would be a little strange because radiance doesn’t like void

[hardy tangle]

where is that shaman again

is it in soul sanctum

[earnest drift]

left of soul sanctum iirc
need to beat a soul warrior to get it

[hardy tangle]

then probably yeah

[earnest drift]

or maybe he just wanted the soul part of the shaman’s power and ignored the void part

since he was infected

[hardy tangle]

or he was scared

wtf is this black stuff

[hushed girder]

Chat, is chapel of the beast hard with 5 masks?

[fleet zinc]

Nope

[earnest drift]

nah you got this

[hushed girder]

Okay good

Already had a tough time getting through it, I fought everyone for the money

[earnest drift]

if groal chose to work with the shaman they never would’ve gotten soul power, they would’ve used their own army and weapons while the shaman used soul

unless the shaman was willing to give them vengeful spirit like the other one did

[slim thorn]

is it your first playthourg?

[grim forum]

Almost beat brood mother and now i will never get that far again

[fleet zinc]

I first tried the chapel with 5 it’s not too bad

[hardy tangle]

parry + spell based shaman game wya

[slim thorn]

depends on how early you fight it

[hushed girder]

Steel soul

Damn it’s the damn big bug, fuck

[earnest drift]

would a shaman be able to cast any of Hornet’s spells

[slim thorn]

doable if you have the skill

[hardy tangle]

no

[charred ruin]

no

[hushed girder]

Let’s see

[fleet zinc]

Real bro broodmother was my third highest attempts (LL, Karmelita, BM)

[slim thorn]

ok you may not if you couldnt even remember your adversary

[hardy tangle]

theres probably similar spells though

[grim forum]

Whats LL

[fleet zinc]

True ending

[grim forum]

Ok

[hardy tangle]

if you havent beaten the game you shouldnt be in this channel cus theres hella spoilers

[grim forum]

Idc

[hardy tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-dog-awkward-dog-confused-awkward-confused-dog-gif-2881577801438605193

[grim forum]

Put on some music and now ima try again

Anyone wanna go in vc?

[hushed girder]

One of the worse fights ever, but I did it

[hushed girder]

Almost died three times

[slim thorn]

nice

[daring basin]

ill watch whatever im not gonna talk but ill watch

[grim forum]

K

[fleet zinc]

Yes. All silk skills aren’t unique to hornet and are taught to her, so technically they could be taught to a shaman. And with void being soul’s (silk) opposite, the shaman would likely cast void versions of the spells rather than using silk (presuming shamans have some form of connection with the void). This is headcanon I just came up with, contradict me please I like talking lore

[hushed girder]

Savage beastfly has to be one of the worst bosses for some people

[earnest drift]

a needle would be needed for silkspear and cross stitch

[hardy tangle]

silk is not soul

[fleet zinc]

Yeah they can get that though

[earnest drift]

is rune rage said to be made specifically of silk

[hushed girder]

It’s a song

[hardy tangle]

shamans can probably cast a spell similar to silk spells but not the exact ones, like pv with the rune rage lookalike

[fleet zinc]

…. Silk is soul given physical form no? Soul created by GMS? Might be wrong

[devout oracle]

struggling to beat nyleth, i was like: oh, maybe i need a needle upgrade. so i went to the flea festival and so far, i beat flea dodge and flea bounce (flea juggle is a nightmare)

[hardy tangle]

different symbols

pv doesnt use rune rage

[fleet zinc]

Well that’s runes. Runes are weaver skills that PK learned and adapted, and further taught to PV. Runes only use soul not specifically silk.

[hardy tangle]

aint soul physical

pretty sure vengeful spirit hits things

[steep jolt]

that attack is called pure focus, im pretty sure thats a seal or something

[quiet path]

Hey guys, what are we talking about?

[steep jolt]

i dunno

[hardy tangle]

where does it say that

[quiet path]

Cool

Back to the hell hole that is flea juggling

[hardy tangle]

also why would pk know anything about weaver stuff

the closest hes been to weavers is doing it with herrah

and they werent even close it was just a deal

[fleet zinc]

Nowhere. But they’re literally the exact same. Runes on the cage and runes on the black egg door. Monomon took extra precautions for safety (Quirrel) who’s to say herrah didn’t share knowledge surrounding runes to PK for extra safety

But again it’s all headcanon I don’t have definitive proof lol. It’s just how I see it

[steep jolt]

runes are NOT seals

2 different things

[rocky jolt]

there are silk spools in hidden station

[unkempt steeple]

How come there's snow in mt fay and not the desolate wastes

[steep jolt]

no shit bruh its a village made of silk

[steep jolt]

mount fay isnt a part of the wastes

[rocky jolt]

no i mean the one besides palace grounds i forgot the name

[unkempt steeple]

It seems the desolate wastes go even higher than mt fay

[fleet zinc]

Duh. Seals are made with runes

[steep jolt]

where does it say that

[subtle lynx]

Oh I never thought of that

The water of the coral gourge came from mount fay

[steep jolt]

ive assumed runes are made from silk and seals are made from dream essence and soul

[steep jolt]

yea

and was also probably rerouted to the high halls

[unkempt steeple]

Interesting...

[subtle lynx]

yes

[steep jolt]

what if the slab prisoners were forced to mine ice that was shipped to the high halls (there are carts carrying stuff in the enterance to slab from choral chambers)

[unkempt steeple]

I wonder what's the lore behind the magic regrowing black ice in mt fay

[subtle lynx]

I don't think that makes sense at all

[earnest drift]

khan’s corpse has needolin dialogue about “us against the pale light”, could that refer to either gms or the citadel

[subtle lynx]

it should be the citadel, but it implies GMS

[earnest drift]

citadel is said to give off light as well I think

groal says “hate for the light”

[subtle lynx]

or it could be about the silk stuff the citadel had

[fleet zinc]

Fair enough. Still like thinking they’re linked but there is no proof they’re linked. They just look similar and have similar functions. Maybe all gods/demigods have their own seal magic. Others that have seals are moths, void civilization, grimm

[subtle lynx]

pale light obviously refers to sth related to a pale being

[round creek]

I got my home in bellhome :D‎

[steep jolt]

yeah i think those are made of dream essence, idk about the void tho, the grimm troupe is dream essence cuz if you try hitting it it shows the dream essence seal

the one for dreamers

[unkempt steeple]

Do we think the sea of sorrow will be a cidadel level area?

[steep jolt]

oo

the weavers mightve been able to make their own seals

[broken seal]

sea of sorrow map will be the size of all of hk

[steep jolt]

because one is in the weavers den in hornets secret room

[rocky jolt]

its connected to bilewater

[fleet zinc]

It’s just all magic. All the magic has particles that float around. They might be different elements of magic, but they can probably be molded the same ways

[broken seal]

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-gif-14502677989830189795

[steep jolt]

i think its the same one as the one in pv and seals of binding

[unkempt steeple]

I didn't mean it's related to the cidadel

[still osprey]

From what we know it looks smaller than Verdania

[unkempt steeple]

I don't think it's just the bay

[steep jolt]

uh

what are you on about

[unkempt steeple]

And if it is surely there's something else that makes up for the bay being the only area

[steep jolt]

we saw an entire spire of life blood, a bay area

[fleet zinc]

Please team cherry make the water temple from oot. Give us steel boots that let us go underwater and unlock new places across the whole map in every instance of water

[rocky jolt]

sea of sorrow cannot be an area name bro

[still osprey]

The zoomed out map in tge files

[round creek]

Why is there a big enemy in a secret room in moss grotto?

[steep jolt]

yeah its way bigger then verdania there

[steep jolt]

ok

did you realize that maybe

thats one area out of multiple

[unkempt steeple]

Why can't it

Seems like there's a sea... and the dlc is called sea of sorrow

[steep jolt]

my question is where tf did the sorow part come from

[unkempt steeple]

Same

Maybe it's just very known for shipwrecks?

[rocky jolt]

wtv bro

[fleet zinc]

It’s possible, but most hk dlcs only had one main addition, as well as overall gameplay stuff (charms bosses etc).

[rocky jolt]

i just hope lifeblood spire is an actually hard late game platforming challenge at the end of pharloom bay

[unkempt steeple]

Yawn

[fleet zinc]

We also have the submarine cutscene in the files, likely bringing us to someplace new, as the bell does for the void

[undone gate]

It would be cool if every DLC had a unique themed hard platforming area

[unkempt steeple]

I think we might have to descent in sea of sorrow

Deep sea lifeblood being

The lifeblood room in hk was deep in the abyss

[steep jolt]

they have been working on this area for a while, they just didnt add it in base silksong cuz of time crunch so its probably already mostly developed with new areas and stuff

omg what if theres coral

[fleet zinc]

It was also in a dream debatably

[unkempt steeple]

Also the deep sea is known for having giant deep sea things, like cuthulu

[cunning geode]

and crabs

[steep jolt]

the knight sniffed the lifeblood like crack and passed out

[unkempt steeple]

Giant khanns

[rocky jolt]

yea man we are fighting ctulhu

[unkempt steeple]

Unironically

[fleet zinc]

Yesss coral gorge, but it’s a hidden area off blasted steps, untouched by whatever dried out steps

[unkempt steeple]

I think it's some other weird thing like a way to connect to the lifeblood's being location in sea of sorrow

[unkempt steeple]

I think they're not going for that aesthetic unfortunetly

[fleet zinc]

LL, Cthulu, Void Beast would be a crazy P5 final lineup

[unkempt steeple]

How come the coral in sands of karak is still red and not white

Is it still alive?

[subtle lynx]

It is

[fleet zinc]

Yes

[subtle lynx]

That's why there are coral creatures

Does it make sense? No

[unkempt steeple]

I assumed they just evolved to look like coral

[subtle lynx]

I think they have coral parts theirselves

[fleet zinc]

Nope. Probably something about living closer to Khann, or the tower, even though they’re dead. Power lives on as we see in hk

[steep jolt]

bro my homework wants me to color some things in with yellow and some things in with "light yellow" but like wtf is lighth yellow

[unkempt steeple]

The coral will take over pharloom

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smooth-gif-23201953

[subtle lynx]

Are you in kindergarten

[fleet zinc]

Coral vs lifeblood takeover. Two new infections

[unkempt steeple]

Bro's in colors and shapes class

[fleet zinc]

Light yellow is radiance yellow is abs rad

[subtle lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/ppg-the-powerpuff-girls-blossom-bubbles-buttercup-gif-17438904

[subtle lynx]

Bro's class

[unkempt steeple]

Team coral

[fleet zinc]

Team Zote

Cause he’s obviously captaining the boat we will find in pharloom bay

[unkempt steeple]

What if sea of sorrow is so big we have to use the submarine in the files as a new fast travel like the ventrica system

That or it's just a one time cutscene

[cunning geode]

i keep sniffing the 99.9% alcohol hand sanitizer and it smells yummy

[subtle lynx]

That's what's going to happen according to the leaks

[unkempt steeple]

Leaks?

Can we talk about leaks even

[subtle lynx]

I meant the datamined files

[green owl]

Yall what is the best crest in game

[unkempt steeple]

Cursed

[subtle lynx]

Hunter

[steep jolt]

shush

WHY

COME ON

[fleet zinc]

I think it’s like ventrica. I have a feeling that there will be a large ocean/water cave that isn’t entirely interconnected, and the sub is needed to progress. And get back and forth from mainland pharloom

[charred ruin]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/YjsDQFDC2iDIVatDRM30J4j-TJ5gBC0EhNBL06gtioc/https/media.tenor.com/hUNsMMt16PEAAAPo/fish-crest.mp4

[green owl]

Wonsering

[green owl]

Peak

[steep jolt]

you just ruined a perfectly good silksong chat

[green owl]

nu uh

[subtle lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-radiance-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-radiance-gif-1212652150997464963

[steep jolt]

heres a tip for next time: only ask that when they are talking about mio

[subtle lynx]

Fire tip

[green owl]

mio?

[subtle lynx]

Dw about it

[green owl]

k

[charred ruin]

another popular metroidvania that came out recently

[steep jolt]

memories in orbit, its another metroidvania they just LOVE talking about

[fleet zinc]

You saying bro has a hot tip??

[steep jolt]

might play it

[green owl]

oh yeah ive heard of that game

[subtle lynx]

We all have

[green owl]

okay yo too far

[subtle lynx]

Multiple times

[green owl]

k

[subtle lynx]

Every day

[earnest drift]

ugly moth

[subtle lynx]

Pale king be like

[earnest drift]

ugly Wyrm too

[rocky jolt]

Godstreets

[unkempt steeple]

I'm sooooo exciting for a sea area in thr hk verse

I love the ocean

[subtle lynx]

Radiance be like

[earnest drift]

I don’t like higher beings in hollow knight

[unkempt steeple]

Exept gms

[subtle lynx]

Ok bud

[unkempt steeple]

Gms is the one true savior

[earnest drift]

gms isn’t in hollow knight

[fleet zinc]

We better get some water movement ability though there’s no good speed tech in water rn

[subtle lynx]

The most evil higher being out there

[unkempt steeple]

True she would never be in that trash game

[earnest drift]

radiance is worse

[steep jolt]

wait hk and silksong are racist because the main enemy is white and a woman and the main character is black when naked

[unkempt steeple]

Unn:

[subtle lynx]

True

He created nuu

And nuu is the most evil character

[steep jolt]

wtf is wrong with my internet vro ✌️

[unkempt steeple]

That psycopath who wants to kill as many bugs as possible

[fleet zinc]

Bretta: (the simple bug being able to create a new realm, equalling the power of godseeker)

[subtle lynx]

No, it's because she holds a memento that takes hours to get

If she didn't exist, I would not have wasted 5 hours of my life

[earnest drift]

ordering higher beings from good to evil

the hollow knight
the knight (dream no more)
unn
nightmare heart
white lady
pale king
the shade lord
grand mother silk
the radiance

[unkempt steeple]

Bretta is a kind god

[subtle lynx]

The hollow knight is not

[unkempt steeple]

Bretta could destroy the void if she wanted

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-slap-toy-stretch-toy-abuse-gif-8522373636109174808

[steep jolt]

how is pale king evil he is genuinely a very good king

[unkempt steeple]

BLASPHEMY

[steep jolt]

also i dont think vessels should count

[unkempt steeple]

Grand mother silk did nothing wrong

[earnest drift]

mass infanticide

[steep jolt]

except for knight

[subtle lynx]

He is, but people lack the ability to reason

[meager jolt]

Opinion on the Nightmare's Heart

[hardy tangle]

the knight is hard cus he can brutally murder nailsmith or spare him and let him be gay

[subtle lynx]

They don't see beyond what's in front of them

[unkempt steeple]

Hornet can't say the same

[earnest drift]

the knight does random things for no reason

[unkempt steeple]

The knight is fucked up for killing tenna

[fleet zinc]

I’ll argue that the knight and PV aren’t, as they’re just creations. Knight in that ending is just void given form, so it would only count if you call the god void, or the void beast. The void beast is the knight giving in to the void, letting it control him. I think

[exotic cedar]

How does knight even understand english

[hardy tangle]

gms is more selfish than rad

[subtle lynx]

He doesn't

[earnest drift]

is she though

[subtle lynx]

He doesn't understand anything that the bugs say

He just does random stuff

[fleet zinc]

Prob not truly hollow. Not possible really. But yeah probably also doesn’t understand anything

[subtle lynx]

And it works out for him

[earnest drift]

what a shitty protagonist

[exotic cedar]

Brain empty can't understand anything

[unkempt steeple]

The moths never created capitalism and colonization

[steep jolt]

mine (good to evil):
pale king
knight
hornet
white lady
unn (didnt really do anything but shes just good)
gms (only cuz she cared about her child)
shade lord (the only reason hornet wasnt killed is because of the knight, the rest of the shade lord was happy to kill her)
radiance

[hardy tangle]

aint the void beast the lifeblood creature in godhome

[earnest drift]

pale king that high is crazy

[subtle lynx]

The knight is supposed to be a self insert by calling the knight a shitty character... 😬

[steady walrus]

sea of sorrow is tomorrow

[steep jolt]

is nightmare heart even bad tho they only feast off of dead kingdoms

[fleet zinc]

“What a shitty protagonist” talking about a protagonist that embodies the average gamer (doing random shit and having it work out)

[earnest drift]

stupid excuse

[steep jolt]

he did nothing wrong

[earnest drift]

lazy writing

[hardy tangle]

possess random bugs and give them amnesia turn them into slaves

[fleet zinc]

Don’t think so. Unless there’s proof I don’t know of

[subtle lynx]

See this is what I mean when I see people lack reasoning and are only able to see what's in front of them

[hardy tangle]

in the game files its called something void

[subtle lynx]

Not lazy writing but lazy player, you need everything to be spilled out to you

[steep jolt]

ok yeah but like grimm gives you a nice charm and a fun dance

[fleet zinc]

Yeah but also clown haha circus wheeeee

[earnest drift]

what is there to be spelled out
as you said the knight does random stuff for no reason
that’s a nothingburger

[hardy tangle]

grimm is nmh creation

[steep jolt]

youre a nothing burger

[subtle lynx]

It was a joke

[hardy tangle]

not possesseed hes just the son

[exotic cedar]

Does random stuff but works out

When quirell talks to the knight is he just talking to the wall

[hardy tangle]

grimm is also the vessel for nmh it lives in him

[fleet zinc]

Game file names aren’t exactly lore though. It’s prob named that because it’s found in the abyss. When they released the game originally that’s the only place it was found, godhome wasn’t out yet so

[subtle lynx]

No he's talking to the knight

[steep jolt]

quirrel could talk to a wall and get it to agree with him

[earnest drift]

I agree the knight is a joke

[steep jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-gif-22583735

[earnest drift]

of a character

[subtle lynx]

I sometimes forget you're a ragebaiter

[modest vessel]

Whys your pfp citron

[subtle lynx]

Your ragebsit works, but sometimes you reach too close to the sun

[exotic cedar]

Knight is fine

[subtle lynx]

Cause I like citron

[modest vessel]

Isn't that the citron from pvz heroes

[subtle lynx]

It is

[exotic cedar]

Though its kinda boring, i like hornet better

[modest vessel]

Damn goated

[earnest drift]

the knight is fine it’s just silent protagonist for the 20th time

[steep jolt]

isnt citron the guy from percy jackson

[modest vessel]

I love the knight

[steep jolt]

who are the 19 others

[hardy tangle]

with tons of lore

[subtle lynx]

Probably, other metroidvanias inspired by hollow knight

[rocky jolt]

and how many games have voiced protagonists again

[steep jolt]

OHHHH CHIRON

HIS NAME IS CHIRON

[charred ruin]

one of them gotta be link

[leaden delta]

A LOT??????

[steep jolt]

theres steve from minecraft

[rocky jolt]

exactly

[leaden delta]

ik what you meant but dawg

[subtle lynx]

They are supposed to be self inserts, it also really helps in hollow knight since you're supposed to be lonely, another great example is subnautica

[charred ruin]

well link isnt literally silent he just basically never talks

[steep jolt]

is this good

[earnest drift]

talkative protagonist isn’t a “trope” because talking is Normal
it’s like saying protagonists having 4 limbs is overused

[steep jolt]

it lowk is tho

[subtle lynx]

Ok?

[steep jolt]

theres not enough 5 limbed characters

[rocky jolt]

and what if the protagonist is too traumatized to even be able to say a word

[hardy tangle]

skill issue

[rocky jolt]

put that on jod

[hardy tangle]

jod? joni god?

[earnest drift]

frisk Kris Chell Gordon freeman Sunny omori doom guy the player in poppy playtime and garten of banban and other shitty mascot horror games

[slim thorn]

you could always flip around the second hit of hunter nestrike?

[steep jolt]

yeah obv

[rocky jolt]

sure man

[charred ruin]

no link?

[trim estuary]

straight protagonists are overused 🥱

[rocky jolt]

that can be what jod means

[subtle lynx]

Yeah, as I said, all characters inspired by the knight from hollow knight

[trim estuary]

Link gasps he doesn’t count

[earnest drift]

I don’t know what Zelda is