#sk-discussion
1 messages ¡ Page 6687 of 1
WUDDUUMEANBELLHARTGETSRUINED
You can also no longer fight map mommy in act 3
Bait used to be believable
Because Silksong is boring smh
Wdym
some of the bellhouses fall down and stuff is broken and everyone is kinda depressed
Silksong ain't got no Wheel moments yk
yeah that too
Silksong rolls upd
let players capture shorts and upload them
Mmm ofcourse you did it in the midst of a void-quake
who did ts, im gunna murder that bih before act 3
you, technically
Frey eats pilgrims
25% hornets fault
@brittle totem so you gonna do do it?
guess i gotta pull thk
75% belongs to the snails
I FINALLY finished the (extremely minor extremely late game spoilers) ||flea juggle|| đđ
Took me forever bro
ikr who came up with cogwork dancers, first sinner, trobbio etc when we had such brilliant bosses like moss mother and skull tyrant that they could have made more of
incorret
Ong, the choral smth is so boring
moss mother is no better than the Unravelled
she didn't know but she also did like all of the heavy lifting lmao, and the old hermit and chapel keeper lady barely did anything other than give some soul. Vast majority of it was you and caretaker
Fun first boss
im eating act 2
Skill issue
holy shit I just realised I died more times to trobbio than to lost lace
Boring not hard
đđđ
Unravelled actually gives u smth and is the best silk heart boss
moss mother gives u annoyance
Uhm...bell beast???
Calling Unravelled better than Bell Beast AND Lace 2 is insane bait
moss mother has THREE (!!!!!!!) whole attacks, surely nothing can compare with that
What if we just killed gms and didnt bind her
Silksong easy happy ending
I think she'd just regen
She can make infinite silk
Nah
idk if you really can just kill her
What if hornet just leaves
She refuses to leave
Dumb decision
Like she said shed be hunted down again and also intrueged by pharloom
you're prevented from leaving the borders of Pharloom cuz Hornet says some shit about "If i leave, they'll only come back for me" which is true
..no not really
Yeah but who will come exactly, a bunch of pilgrims?
In act 3 it changes to smth about how "i cannot in good faith leave behind this kingdom that i had a hand in ruining"
The same people who caught her in the first place
Start cutscene
Mio doesn't have dialogue for leaving the map, if you decide to fly off into space you fly off into space fr
Yeah who are those anw?
she got captured the first time around lol
Choir members
Random choir members
They shouldn't be an issue?
twin are you ragebaiting
Yeah but hornet was plot weakned so she could be caught
GMS will keep hunting Hornet down, if that doesn't stop her then something else will
For silksong
also if she's sleeping đ
No I am genuinely confused
i mean they do have those cages that can bind her skills
The opening cutscene dude
Okay that makes sense
or they caught her while she was asleep or exhausted from some kind of battle. She definitely is weakened by the cage tho
How did she break free btw?
If she can get caught by a wardendly then choir members who are controlled by gms can definetly catch her as well
Also they have runes ,hornet was unable to use her silk until the rune was sealed
Silkfly ex machina
THE OPENING CUTSCENE
Lace sent a silkfly, they break seals
it literally shows you how
The silkfly broke the cages rune
A silkfly sat on the cage and the runes broke
Well we THINK Lace did, i don't think it's ever explicitly said, but that's what people think was her first act of rebellion against GMS
If lace wasnt a bitch and didnt go in the void with gms then pharloom would've genuinely been saved
Yeah but hornet would be dead
hero wannabe
That means no silksong
tbh if Lace didn't go in then they'd be more fucked because GMS would have Hornet trapped with her instead
Bro she had plenty of time to jump away after cutting off gms hand
which is arguably way worse
Nope,gms grabbed her
And there were void tendrils right below
If lace didnt jump in silksong would end at act 2
it would end with Pharloom being fucked
Why didn't they just bait gms into the void portal with "perfect daughter that way" signs
Are we deadass
i JUST posted this bro đ
Are you blind
I didnt see it
Why didn't Horn stop playing music when she started to see void come out
probably, i havent slept for a day
Is she stupid? (Yes)
Go to sleep
surely yk its a jk
why doesn't hornet just beat sprintmaster swift by building a wall that looks like a road so he can crash into it
i mean GMS didn't grab Lace
but Lace has her pin stuck inside GMS
and very quickly after she attacked GMS they were both swallowed up
so Lace didn't do the wrong thing lol
If GMS brought Hornet with her then there would be pretty much nothing Pharloom could do lol
Leave her pin there bro đ
again, she didn't know wtf was happening and she's clearly suicidal lol
True
her goal was to fuck over GMS and then die with her
Do we know why gms discarded Phantom like what did they do to get into the exhaust organ was she just not satisfied enough with them or what
honestly they should have just put the void portal under GMS's cacoon while she was sleeping are they stupid /s
she didn't know what would happen if she went into the Void with her and we can't expect her to know lol
Instead she led on the worst act in gaming history
Proceeded to fuck the entire kingdom over
Thanks Lace
yeah but if Lace did nothing then the kingdom would be wayyy more fucked
But we wouldn't have had Act 3: Retconworld!
cuz if Hornet got stuck down there with GMS then Hornet would be cooked and then GMS could use Hornet's silk
Fandom=lace is a child we cant ship her, also the fandom:lace is a fucking bitch
So really the pros outweigh the cons

Both can be true
Imagine she did get hornet down there and we had a bigger sequence with the knight
i wouldn't provoke it lol
give me a blue slot pleaase
You subscribe to starting an argument when you take a clear side in controversy
No ,fuck blue slots
what
the bigger sequence would be the exact same thing but hornet is just alone at the bottom of the world
guys ignore it
nah Hornet would be cooked lowkey
and GMS would be able to use her
Hottest silksong char
so same situation but instead of Lost Lace you have Lost Hornet and there wouldn't be anyone in Pharloom who could stop it
no that would be kratt
no though? because GMS isnt trying to save hornet, thats the only reason she survives the void for so long to save lace
nah the knight would just swoop down, get hornet and go
what
winida
those flame enemies in wisp thicket are probably hotter
False
Croisant ass forhead
i think there is a real chance hornet dies/consumed by void but GMS is screwed as well
none of the events change except you just know jack shit about pharloom since you never explored the past
this was a surprisingly fun gimmicky boss
she literally puppets her around with void threaded silk, she only tries to save her AFTER
FotF is great yeah
i don't see how it would be any different then what happens in the SotV cutscene
pogo your way to victory
Can't send pics here đ wanted to share my rough sketch of karmelita that I'm about to start painting
I'm confused isnt it said in game that the only reason GMS is surviving the void is because she is trying to keep lace alive
they'd be trapped in the cocoon
i might be wrong im a bit rusty on the lore
i don't see why the knight wouldn't just go into the caccoon and save her
technically he's "hot" cuz he literally got a blazing gargantuan torch on his chest
Void and Void Silk/Void Thread or whatever you wanna call it aren't the same
Indeed
on what grounds? hornet dove straight into that shit, what's stopping the knight, who can clearly maneuver through the void, from doing the same
i mean the knight doesn't do this while we're fighting Lost Lace lol
you cant spell father of the flame without ass
because hornet isn't in active danger
because the boss fight is ass
Whatâs not to love about a fight that incentivizes a lot of pogoing?
Pogoing shit is fun
Floorless shit as a whole is very fun
if it had more attacks i would agree
markoth and uumuu flash backs
The hunter vs hallownest's sprintmaster
Unless itâs Ass Jim, actually
Nah Markoth is great
i like treating groal like its floorless
Uumuu does suck though thatâs fair
he'd be fine if that fuckass shield wasn't there
Uumuu is the worst hk boss by far
there's just nothing to the fight other than pogoing and going slightly left or right to dodge the wisps (which i also hate as enemies)
discord ate my reply but you get the point
Godhome VFK:
And thatâs all it needs to be
I think nyleth does her gimmick well enough
stretch, that fight is fine
i dont hate that fight
marmu is up there imo
hell most of the dream bosses
its just a complete nothingburger
Itâs so fucking boring though
Itâs just a slog
that's not fun on its own imo
all of the dream warriors suck they're completely RNG based and the fights have 0 character or interest to them. The dream warriors have some neat lore on some of them and the characters are cool, but the actual fights against them suck
Uumuu is even more of a slog
I hate most dream warriors
i think uumuu godhome is okay, but regular is just narrative "fight" pretty meh
Nyleth is peak, yeah
wait, hear me out. p5 VFK would be more fun as a silksong boss
i'm doing a beast crest only run and that was a fun way to spice that fight up a bit but on its own it's just not fun
At least with Uumuu you can do cool shit with the explosions
Definitely
Dang it's so sad that Mio has no floorless fights then
Oh wait it has several
nyleth is also way more fun with beast crest
Aerial combat is so much better in Silksong
VFK is the first boss i would remove from godhome
she's still massively overshadowed by seth though
Alot of things are much better in silksong...
mine would be gpz because i forgot to leave him to die
what is up with you lol
Plasmium phial is my best friend in steel soul 
Markoth is great
My best friend is pavo
Idk man not much, yourself?
oh now I want that one section in trial 2 in silksong
Donât lie to me
Aerial combat is so much better in Silksong
nothing fr
They should make the floor of the Unravelled kill you if you touch it
shocking that the sequal has better mechancis xD
honestly that'd be pretty manageable
You never realized how much I used clawline until playing without it
The amount of damage the phial lets you tank in steel soul saved my life a lot of times
team cherry should hire you
Also sprint
his top hitbox having a big ass no-pogo-zone is a bit annoying but it'd be neat
I assure you it isnât lmao
And air binding
the unravelled is messy enough as it is
i love fahlaris guy
his fat ass has a spot you can pogo on it
||I LOVE LOST LACE FIGHT||
||I didnt won yet, but the fight itself, itâs like dance duet , chess play! When I lose I donât get mad, but smirk at Lace for getting this one||
it's managable but not fun
Itâs fun but holy shit is floorless Unravelled so comically difficult
does anyone else love fahlaris guy (i like his voice his attack is annoying)
You're talking to the floorless guy
Trust
I think the unravelled is neat the issue is it's way longer than it needs to be bc the boss is constantly underground
When the table shows up, sure yeah
yeah!!
But when itâs not there? During phase changes, spears, the beginning?
the what?
It's because they take half the fucking screen
Youâre in for a wild ride, my friend
The big one
are you that one youtuber with the same pfp
"Who ate all the silk?!"
it's because of that stupid wall bounce he does at the end of the arena, other than that im fine with the fine
I need to find the recording of my best floorless Unravelled attempt
That's just a 12th archi sprite from Silksong g
no, there's just no images of twelth architect between this and being dead so everyone uses the same one
Unraveled is mostly uncomfortable cause of lack of light, rest of it easily learned patterns, at least it was to me
it also has 1k health, an absolutely ridiculous hitbox and a dash attack that is barely telegraphed
That attack where they throw corpses at you and you don't know where they are coming at you sucks too
Good thing they deal 1 damage only tho
dude unraveled has a massive hit box dont make it more annoying than it already is
the lack of light is like for the first 10 seconds
sad
it can just run into you and deal damage because the hitbox is absurd
Yea
The hitbox makes it so hard to hit it after the dash
and then the fanart of twelth isn't that much better
I locked in when I used wanderer 1st time and 1st try him
there's one i have for steam but i haven't found anything else that isn't intentionally sexual for some reason
dude i left unravelled down there and lowkey forgot about it till act 3
Maybe the spears were fun to dodge in the unravelled
Bro and why people are suffering in the abyss out route the lava slows down when it's close i got hit like 3 or 4 times and did it
they're cool except for the fact that they can hit you after bros already dead
the curse of being clocked as a female
Moron no longer
Am in act 3 with everything I need and now all quest need to be done
tis but a shame
Any tips?
Nightmare no more
Uhh ok
depends which quests
All
I feel no attraction towards any characters in either game, i don't know how people do it
Everything' i accept everything
Lewds?
Who would win?
Grand Mother Silk (Prime/full power)
VS
Pale King's overwhelming rizz
Or is it lawds?
But gms th- /j
Pale king win
not even her
I wish we could move Styx out of sinners road, like, I have whole bell house, i donât think others would mind if bellhart got new resident
I love my morsel making husband, but itâs ridiculousi need to walk through all that stuff just to get to him
flea juggle tip: give up and kill yourself /nsrs
like sure she's female shaped at the top but she's just like an orb
theres a hole above bellhart, move styx there
I think he is too big
Alr ;_; i will play Tommorow i 100% abyss it wasn't much
the one with the memory locket?
Btw free 600 rosaries
what about you put him down in the bell hermits old home (since styx is kinda a hermit)
probably
Curiosity make cat rich this time
Give me a congrats, I beated hollow knight, And Now I upgraded to this Level of HK
Even though am already rich af
But you are a flea
Go to hk discussion then (gud)
Why gif isnât giffing?
heh
No embed perms?
ive been there too
Ur english isn't Englishing
i think i just found an early trobbio design
Show us
Itâs not my native language, so itâs ok
Am glad because current on is much better
Bro was nerd before being theater kid, Uuuuh
where u find it
I got something to say though
My Cat gracy Gave birth 4 days ago
My dog rosy killed the kittens yesterday
That bomb looks ai generated
It's not my native language either
i was thinking that i didnt want to be mean
Of course, your native language is Awoooooooo
Btw is trobbio a moth? Is he related to the radiance?
How would you be mean by saying that đđ
The ||spider boss battles|| are so fun!
Oh goodness, Im so sorry to hear that
here you go
IKR
Btw can u tell me a beautiful place in act 3 they make every act 2 place dark and scary
idk im sicm of ai though i hate it
it was from one of the backer sketches along with these
kaboom? yes, trobbio, kaboom
Find a depressed gay prince

And then I say u r late
Itâs Brettaâs beta design?
idk if bro has elegy yet, he just did ascent
He is an unrelated butterfly
i think
its. Someone!
Im stealing that giant slug and putting it in my game
She is adorable though
carnival of crustaceans might be an extremely early sands of karak
Salubra?
does anyone know what this is referring to
Awooo?
Khann?
Maybe the citadel was a tower back then who knows
coral tower
But...
i know karmelita was but was khann a backer character too?
mhm
Why is my image taking so long to be sent
Idk if this is my best one but this is the best one I could find
Maybe it's the tower from my game map :))
were all of the people you steal the hearts of backer characters
Not Green Prince or Nyleth
Bridge of peace sounds like a beautiful safe shortcut area
Seth is fanmade but not by a backer
is mistlake a pun
I just realized a full successful attempt would probably reach like 4-5 minutes, holy shit
It quite is.
And kinda like dirtmouth, the more you explore and find NPCs they will move there
Coral city, I can only imagine if there will be seahorses that act like actual horses
god bless brandon lieu #WeLoveYouKhann
Thanks for the idea đ
Oh, iits one of âcomfort area with friendly npcsâ places?
Yeah and even the bugs are just passive and stuff
Even better if you will add the sea sheep
Curiosity gives you everything in this game
Yea
Whats a sea sheep
Give me a sec
Google is free
Like a random ass mini boss that do random atk
They are perfect bug game looking sea creatures
Deals 2 mask of dmg
That looks awesome I'll try to add it
I will pretend I didn't see your message
Why
It can be less sentient bugs like Zaza or bellbeast
Being more of transport or livestock bugs
It's annoying enough to a point where Im gonna kindly act like I didn't see it
But google is free

You brought me the fast travel creature idea
I wasn't setting my mind for that one
But a see sheep for fast travel would be awesome
This build is peak
đ¤Ż
Hornet is behaving like a dick again
they were here the whole time
Arent sea sheeps really slow
Yo that's awfully good
Blissful canyon sounds either sweet or lazy?
I bet most of bugs 5ere are either passive or donât look agresssive
I don't know about that but I guess
Theyre like snails, slithering
It's kinda peaceful with less bugs, but the bugs there are real bad. It's supposed to be a little place with blossoms and flowers and stuff
Gun, knifes and under influence of substance hornet with someones wallet she took form dead body
Oh damn
Actually they are snails
Wouldnt it be hilariously ironic to put a see sheep as a fast travel
No
Elder hu from shakra's master too đ¤
i dont remember the 2nd bug tourist looking messed up like that đ
they should make a dlc about the skarr getting infected by cordyceps, also I wonder if greyroot is based on the horse hair worm
But he looks comfortable
Use ankle bracelet compass made it too op
Sea horses are better option
Sea sheep even look more like âcute little thing you petâ
Yoo i got in act 3
Like Zaza? Uh how big is a see sheep?
gg
Sea*
Male sea horses are the ones that get pregnant btw
Yes we know
Sea sheep are somwhere between shrimp and sea horse in size I think?
I got zango heart or organ and bind with ava silk soar and new crest and pail nails
Sounds good đ
Slug sized
Only species where male can add opinion on abortion, my respect to sea stallions
Alright
what if you did a sea angel instead
Imma send how the main character looks like one sec
Holy that looks gorgeous
you know what it'd be cool? a fog canyon like area in sos with sea angels like those jelly fish enemies
I like how were talking sea creatures and my game is about water n stuff
That's awesome
That looks like itâs should be a realigious Angel figure like character who sacrifices their life for Mc or something
lowkey eva kinda looks like a sea angel in her achivement
is this a peak animation or what
some aquatic insects if you need them
Iâve finally found all the lost fleas
damn i only knew about water strider and stinkbug thx bro
add a barnacle boss
there are alot of aquatic spiders that form a bubble around their head to breath, what if we get an ancestral art like that in sos to go underwater
Is this THE Pablo?
definetely
dude axes are so cool. give hornet an axe
bounce that shit off an enemies head and reel it back
theres also the water boatman
voltvyrm kinda looks like one
close enough, he was supposed to be pablo but i made him this (his name is Rivet)
anemonae
Neat!
or however you spell that
heres the old pablo one
Itâs more of a bivalve
dont make fun of me for thinking he has a hammer pls
Does he not?
Oh
weirdly according to hornet it's not even concious, like a venus fly trap
I THOUGHT IT WAS A GIANT MACE
i was just thinking its little tendril head thingy looks like anemone and the fact that it uses electricity
i think a bug wielding a giant hammer would be way cooler actually
Dont mistreat your sibling like that!
Thought if they did bow to accept the boba tea, maybe they agreed
voltvyrm is probably based off of anemones or deep sea worms yeah
Toad bug gave me a jumpscare, it look like creepy old man smiling
Iâd also recommend a triop aka the creatures that Shelly and Donny are in Splatoon 2 and 3
defense mechanism
Styx, my boy, please, move into bellhart!
Itâs safer and you can make me morsels in our little house!
do not play steel soul 
well she did say it was safer so
This is not a dating simulator
yes it is havent you seen act 4
Im not planning to anyway, I would kill splinter sister and then die to random ahh bug
silksong has writing fit for a dating sim
im bac
Real
good i dont think youd like what happens to styx
its definetly cooler
mace? the spiky ball?
Hornet has
Shakra
Lace
Styx
And that only those I remembered right now
not lace
They not?
she's underage
sheds a tear of widow,not on above bellhart
I know what happens to him, I couldnât handle to witness it
rest in peace my young son
I thought she was âlacedâ into that role?
Like groomed into infidelity
She says she was forced to be like a child, no?
Nooooooo
My husband!
playing silksong, streaming it in VC silksong 1 if anyone wants to give tips or shiz
Spend rosaries and Biden them into strings or bracelets
biden them
she is but in silksong it's taken to a more literal sense, with gms weaving her to be a pristine and perfect child, incapable of disobeying and forever loyal to her
LJ runback is awful đ
avoid buying more benches than you need early on, if you unlock every bench you come across you will struggle with rosaries
just wait until you fight groal 
FlyingLine is right, your should invest in bellbeast
groal the goat
It takes time but it's not hard
Is Groal the Soul Master on drugs?
PTSD FLASHBACKS
So true⌠so ⌠many⌠maggots
Kinda same lore
and gms failed againđ¤Śââď¸stupid ass
Is soul master is mafia guy who does lines of coke in his mansion
Groal the great is crackhead in alleyway who cooks his dose with metal spoon and lighter
i always enter bilewater after putrified ducts because wreath of purity makes most of the area trivial
I lowkey might use Sinners road skip to citadel
I wish I couldve known sooner đ
Good luck on ||horror like part|| of road to citadel
Greymoor?
Gaymoo-
The one before ||phantom||
I using Reaper,Magma Bell,Flea medication,Silk spear
who would win?
the largest area in the game outside of the citadel
vs
one tool
It's their first playthrough right? I don't think they'll even find ||the mist|| before they beat the last judge
Have you ever played silksong with your life on the line?
i was gonna show an image but i cant post it
shoutout to my 80 gigs worth of silksong gameplay (excluding act 1 and not even done playing the game)
No but have you?
almost died bro
Was it ever mentioned that there will be new crests in the upcoming DLC/DLCs?
implied in the trailer
It's confirmed by the trailet
Nah but there is one scene in the trailer that hints to it
not sure if tc's directly said it on their blog
they haven't confirmed anything but it does seem to be hinted at least
I hope that crest along with sea of sorrow aren't only available in act 3
No reason why
Wdym
Theyl give you more memory lockets in the DLC
uh. why?
if they add a new crest they will also add more memory lockets
Well yea but I'll just fully upgrade it faster
Theres just enough memory lockets for all crests and you need to unlock all of them for 100%
Fair point
No guarantee I'll find all the necesarry memory lockets needed
Dont worry I don't think team cherry would put them behind a path of pain
no you don't, my first 100% save file is missing a memory locket
Easier saying all than 33 crest slots
you only need enough to get all of the eva upgrades
Yea I get that but I can't know if I passed a hidden one or not
New crest = more slots = easier to get Eva upgrades
I'm done with Silksong for today
If you dont spend any lockets on hunters you can get sylphsong in act 2
I saw someone beating the hell out of LJ with beast crest
You can spend lockets on Hunter and still get sylphsong in act 2 actually
Youtube
I looked them up
Nope
You cant. All the other 6 crests give exactly 33
I used a silksong tracker and inserted my save file and it's much more efficient imo
I do
yeah i'm pretty sure i got sylphsong before act 3 in my current save and i upgraded hunter
Wait fuck you can
Besides I don't think anyone should rely on the internet to find at least 80% of hidden items if they are actively trying to find them
Why not ,fuck searching
Love youtube tutorials
How is it more fun to look up a tutorial for everything than to actually find it yourself
searching? in my metroidvania? why I'd never
I only used hunters crest and wanderers if I felt like to try something new
When I beat beastfly, I was so disappointed to find how mid beast crest is
Like it has good roar and animation of attack, but itâs jumping is so
Leaves the tediousness of having to revisit every area and smack every wall
Thats where 50% of lockets are hidden
Well that's fair I thought you ment like using it for literally everything
I was only missing like 2 or 3 lockets, the rest I found on my own
i don't think I missed too too much
what silksong mods could I get
could or should?
Skill issue
I was thinking. and there are 2 ways how cornifer could get in places before the knight.
a) he has the some of the abilities of knight
b) he can use 3rd dimension
could.
cause there's hundreds of mods
No 2 masks damage or always have compass effect
because I'm (attempting) to make a modpack
and Idk many good mods
he burrows obv
Pantheon of pharloom is a pretty good one that adds a ton of replayability
like the beastlings
No 2 masks of damage?eww why make the game easy
i wish i could move like this man i was losing my mind trying to get through this minigame just an hour ago (i'm doing a beast crest only run)
he acctually just has the teleport mod
I prefer the answer he can use 3rd dimension
Cause
ew no two masks
I've played that one it's peak
but it won't work for a full playthrough which is what I'm trying to do
the game is significantly easier without 2 masks, like unbearably easier
for me at least
I'll keep my 2 mask damage
the compass one I might get tho especially with moorlap (Idk if it'll work properly but I'm trying it)
I am feeling unmotivated to continue act 2 ngl
true
I don't like the place or enemies in choral, and boring
act 4?
There's an act 4?
Bait used to be believable
mid, act 6 is better
Wtf
Act 4 is good but lowkey act 5 takes the cake
They add new acts every week
Act 6 is mid ngl
The 25th architech shop is so mid
Are these acts before or after grandmother silk?
but you're telling me the return of grimm troupe was bad?
Talking about 4-6
LMAO
WHAT???
can we talk about how badly exectued the radience's return in act 9 was
Are y'all fucking with me
it's a joke
Speaking of grimm troupe was I the only one who thought the grimm troupe was gonna return when they saw Trobio's sign?
she shouldn't have been brought back bro
Grandmother silk is act 8
it's all a joke
there's no reason the pilgrims should even know about her
what is going onđ
we're talking about silksong's acts
Wtf, I thought there's only 3 acts
We are discussing the acts
yay pinterest is still an extremely annoying boss it just doesn't get any better as i complete more runs
How long is this game
Theres 12 get the new update
every act ends with you fighting an older great grandmother
there's only 3
get out of here this is spoiler land
Which is the latest version?
They already ended in act 2 cuz they have a skill issue
I donât understand father of the flame gimmick
the Shade lord fight in act 10 was a bit disappointing but I understand
Like, when it makes a reverbed sound
act 11 was the worst act I hated the multiverse bs
There is no gimmick he is just a platforming boss
pogo. that's the gimmick
It makes it deals actual damage
it was on the nose, but it did explain the "all endings are canon" thing
Yeah like tf why did I have to fight 3 laces at once
Ladies and gentlemen,we lost another one
Nuh uh every crest is valid and good
we have to put him down, just like they did with shakra in act 7
I don't know how but I kept hitting critical hits and I genuinely felt like prime Yuji hitting blackflashes
3 Lace fight was so bloated. Act 10's Lost Sisters fight with Lost Lace and Lost Phantom had so much better execution with a much nicer flow to the attacks.
now that I thing about it, I don't really like the crit sound that much. it's kind of grating
Why does it make sounds sometimes ? Like a reverb ?
It gives me pleasure
.Except reapers.
What 12 acts were y'all talking about
Saw '3 lace fight' and thought we were slandering LL and being based for once
trying to heal against pinstress with the beast crest (she won't let me get near her for one fucking second whenever i bind)
use flintstone, it is better
Yes
the trobbio crest:
what's wrong with it?
Reaper crest is good sometimes it's just more commonly used for parkour more than combat
beast crest has piercing so I think she can't block it at least...i think
Reaper is also good
I don't use it personally but it's not bad
The attacks do the same amount of damage
Yeah true
Honestly, I think we need a dlc all about trobbio and how amazing he is
It litteraly is bad
The upslash is just not good for flea mini games is what I'd say
i do like reaper mods a lot that adjust the damage
it's perfectly usable lol
What are you trying to say here?
the problem with reaper is that while all of the other crests get better as you improve at the game reaper gets worse because you don't need to bind as often and are left with a crest that just deals less damage with no benefits
But bad
Heavier attacks for no more damage, bind ability doesnt save it cuz it sucks, 3 orbs for one silk

Does anyone else really dislike the Pinstress fight?
the only use case i could see for reaper is that you could maybe use the extra silk for more silk skills but shaman crest exists for that
idk. I don't really see it as bad, but worse, if that makes sense
Wdym reaper is insane for new players
i mean for more experienced players
The bind is horrible, 3 orbs for one silk
it doesn't do anything more than the pogo
for new players
Well yea fair
i'm gonna be honest reaper's pogo kinda sucks
is hunter really that hard to aim
I love hunters pogo
it's my favorite pogo by far
Not really the abbility is also nice but even if it was just the pogo it'd still be worth it in my eyes
i like hunter though
(the answer is no btw)
it's slow as hell and i find myself getting hit while trying to pogo with reaper way more often than i do with hunter
It really helps with Hunter's March, it's definitely not as good as the other crests but I don't get why you're trying to call it bad, I can use it anytime and it's really not that bad
the ability isn't too too useful
I used the Hunter's crest for a while now
Only switched to Wanderer's crest today
Guys i reached the green guy in bile water. I forgot his name but i thought he was in act 3đđ
my favorites are hunter, beast and of course wanderer
having used hunter crest only my first run, itâs amazing
Youre forgetting how slow the attacks hit
The pogo is even slower
it's one of the more disliked fights in the game
Id rather hunter pogo ovrr that
i don't think the pogo speed really matters to me
I love the hunter crest. It carried me the whole game
And the attacks are like the grimm attacks
Hunter pogo is peak
If you know how to aim
i don't like witch's and architect's, and im not experienced enough with beast
beast crest pogo is actually insane for combat
it sucks for platforming but everything else itâs peak
Architect is so good
hunter and reaper are fun
it just feels awful to play with a pogo that slows me down when i usually want to use the pogo more aggressively during combat
talking specifically about how i feel about their pogos
I meant reaper
Destroy.reaper.crest.
reaper is aight
Peak*
in terms of overall crests
No.destroy .it
Destroy what
From.the.game
Father of the flame is legit a dogshit fight omg
right now i'm really enjoying beast crest's pogo because once you get used to it you can use it really aggressively, same goes for hunter
Reathrows up per. CRest
Usefull and interesting enough to hook in a new player
You will never understand
3 orbs per silk
i think the concept is cool, but the implementation leaves a bit to be desired
Just get good I guess lol
Or hit multiple enemies
we love reaper
well the thing is reaper is the only crest that feels like it was made for new players
Or wanderer sharpdart and make the game easy
Maybe it would be viable if it would give a silk every 2 orbs instead of 3
The reaper crest passiv is so good for exploring
so it falls off a cliff when you stop being a new player
It doesnt have a passive
i think I like reaper when it comes to groups of enemies rather than when it comes to bosses
Yes I completely agree with that and I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with having a crest mostly catered towards newer players
The silk abality (cant spell sry)
when it comes to bosses I'd rather use hunter since there's not shit flying around my screen
All crests should be perfectly balanced
i don't think it's a good idea to have a crest that acts as a crutch for new players and doesn't serve any other purpose
not feasible but ok
And they arenr
i was super reaper crutched when i first played
i think its actually fine that the crests arent all perfectly balanced
3 orbs for one silk
Yeah its good
If you can hit
anyways crest discourse is boring anyways
if you want to make a beginner friendly crest it should still serve a purpose late game, that's not impossible
it's been the same talking points since the game dropped
silksong tomorrow for sure
honetly I expected all of the crests to get upgrades and not just hunter
SoS tmrw
No, you gotta make all playstyles all the same power level
i get it but still
we still argue about charms like steady body from time to time and hollow knight is 9 years old
and that's boring, yeah
Sea of sorrow tommorow TRUST
crest discourse isn't gonna end anytime soon
i didn't say it would lol
i just said it's boring
on this guys life sos tomorrow
Changed my name yall
You're acting like it's actively detrimental to you if you aren't a new player
I will take it
yay
Is it the most optimal? No, but you can definately make it work just like any other crest
reaper dookie
Rate my new username
i like reaper for platforming
i don't really care 3/10
yeah it kinda is, it just has worse damage output and a slower moveset than the other crests with no benefit
So Zote Boat
actually i like all crests except architect
0/10 for not caring
sure, whatever you say
The additional silk gain and down pogo precision?
Reaper is decentâŚ.but beast or witchâŚ
same
i never used architect because i dont like using red tools lmao
architect haters when their crest doesnt have the biggest attack variety out od any crest
Reaper crest has the 3rd worst silk gain(with bind)
no dissing beast crest
The bind ability doesnt help it at all
beast crest is so fun
architect mains when they canât pogo 
Yea excluding the bind definately
again, these are only significant if you're a new player
INCLUDING the bind
Its the 3rd worst in silk gain
they use delvers drill for that
I fought beastfly for most mid pogo jump in game
Though mechanic of beating shi out of enemies to gain heal is great
You can still run it normally tho
Like I actually don't see a problem with it the way it is
don't get the problem with reaper being designed for new players i think thats perfectly fine
Exactly
i'm not saying it's unusable it's just worse than the others
The bind gives you a 30% silk gain if ALL hits hit during the time period, if yiy get damaged, the bind ends
i disagree the pogo is broken for pvp
incredible day for the 5 pvp users
Well yea but nothing wrong with a crutch in my eyes
So you get one extra silk on evarage per bind, that is 3rd worst silk gain
yo who cares if it has the worst gain bro đ
Me ,because it fails at its gimmick
i meant pve whatever
Its a crest that REAPS aditional silk from enemies and it fails to do that well
I switched over to Shaman once I found it and never looked back on Reaper but I'd be lying if I said I didn't like it
I tried to fight with beast pogo jump, I felt like Hornet was drunk the whole time
i like all the crests (except that one)
i hate people who donât like their crest but use it cuz itâs good
just use whatevers fun lowk
Fun?YOU PLAY GAMES FOR FUN?
for me wanderer is fun so i use it or beast cuz its so skill and satisfying
shush
beast user around
unless a game has an incremental progression system where you unlock stronger abilities as you progress and naturally stop using the weaker abilities you unlock early on, having an item whose only purpose is to be a crutch for new players while all of the alternatives continue to have uses for more experienced players is poor game design imo
The fuck the car do
chillll
More question, WHO LEFT CLAW MARKS ON IT?
i've seen games where the beginner friendly abilities you unlock early on continue to be decent late game they're just not as flashy as the others, it's not impossible
Yea maybe if you factor in the higher DPS from wanderer, which comes at a cost of a really short range. A casual player isn't gonna run all those calculations and comparisons on the fly and it's completely fine if it's not the most optimal, it's not that big of a deal really.
Who needs long range when you have the best silkgen and can outheal everything
I have no idea what you are talking about
if you use the term "dps" in your first playthrough (specially in the early game) you need to be sentenced to cursed crest only
do silksong performance mods even exist
the simplest solution would be to give reaper an upgrade like hunter to help it keep up with other crests for more experienced players
Wanderer:facetank facetank,sharpdart,ffacetank, bind ,continue and you win
i dont think it's bad design if it fulfills its purpose very well, it allows new players to get into different playstyles and exploring while also being placed at a spot where the game starts to get harder to help people
@short trout
i agree it should be able to upgrade like hunter and that would be cool
Awoo
I mean maybe they could just make 2 orbs give you one silk instead of 3 orbs. An upgrade is a nice idea tho I will not lie
chalamet
THE MUSIC JUMPSCARED ME
Reaper has extremely missed potential
monor what crest do you use
whatever bro
Everything...except reaper
Reaper needs a buff but idk how you would buff it without changing the core idea of it
give it a tipper
give it a little extra range and make the silk gen a little stronger
i be sayin this since forever it needs a tipper that does more damage
1)25% needle damage increase
2)silk orbs give one half
reaper is not that bad if you dont judge it for its performance against bosses
which is not where it's meant to shine
Let's just agree to disagree and move on. Each side made their completely valid points and frankly I don't think it's THAT deep
and maybe generates more silk
positive conclusions in my ss disc??
i mean if anything reaper being such a crutch for new players discourages them from getting into different playstyles, i've seen many people getting different crests and switching back to reaper shortly after because it provides a comfort zone they don't want to leave
honestly yeah the one problem with reaper being so easy to use is that it enables bad habits for people who want to try to stretch out and play other crests
fair point
That's a fair point but again you might missinterpret that for wanting a safer crest
Like imo I really don't like wanderer and Beast I especially disliked
beast has a learning curve, but itâs very good once you get it
I didn't use the Architect crest cause I had absolutely no money to afford all the shell shards needed to get it's max value
the distance for the pogo especially
beast crest đЎ
well beast feels completely different than almost any other crest in the game so i can understand leaving it for later playthroughs
So I just stuck with the reaper
totally
(looks at steel soul beast only run)
Completely valid reasons for sticking to the Reaper imo
yeah i'm really enjoying that right now
if it helps
holding back or forward changes the distance you go
back will make the windup dash shorter
ive mastered the pogo for traversal i think
no i didn't know that and i'm about to fight lost lace lmao
once you do that it becomes so good to use for everything
Really don't like it for exploring no matter what you say about it you can't argue with the fact that it's not one of the worst when it comes to exploration if not the worst
unless you wanna heal during platforming or whatever
i mean, as long as youâre not like one mask and no silk
Yea you can make it work but it's mechanically among the worst for exploring
itâs not terrible
you cna easily hit and run a lot of enemies during exploration to get it back
the bind gets really annoying if there are no enemies nearby yeah
realistically youâll probably have silk or at least nearby enemies to farm silk from
that i can agree with
does anyone use gale mod manager
Really wish Shaman was unlocked earlier in the game btw
its not very exploration friendly if you arent used to it though yeah
Me
we'll get reaper lifeblood progression in SSSOS
i wish there was an option to use crests in a new run
like new game plus and start off with your preferred crest
this happened as soon as i set up gale and tried to run it do u know a fix or smt
or are u just as clueless as i am đĽş
man i understand that team cherry wants to keep this game immersive and whatnot but not adding an option to start with any crest you want is such a missed opportunity gameplay wise
thankfully you can do that by editing your save file but it should just be a built in feature
Not gonna lie I don't know
Maybe delete and reinstall? Or input the directory yourself
Whatâs gale
Yes that would be pretty cool
meow meow meow reaper needs a buff
you have such little time to make use of shaman if you do everything in act 2 before heading into act 3 like i did
would love a witch only run
too bad i gotta wait til like hella mid-late game to get it
what if reaper just had soul collector effect
Mods?
I've played through the entirety of acts 1 and 2 while fighting all available bosses along the way with Beast crest, and while the pogo is hard to get the hang of, usually if you're to the side of the thing you're trying to pogo it ends up working it
each hit = 1 1/3 silk
yeah i did both but i think i know the solution now, thx either way
iâm on console
i kinda just used it for crawfather and. that was it lol
Yes that is true but I am making use of the Shaman with the Path of Pharloom mod. A really fun crest for me
Oh, ye that sucks
actually should be 1/2
Chat I'm making a Silksong X Legends Arceus AU
What would Trobbio's ace Pokèmon be
-# I'm just making a Crossover where Silksong characters replace characters in Pokèmon: Legends Arceus
-# Why? Because It would be interesting, now shush /j
Oh no problem and good luck
hisuian liligant or smth
shaman being a very late game unlock makes sense due to the bind and the difficulty of managing your silk between three silk skills, assuming there will be late game content in future DLCs that give you time to actually use it (like a godhome equivalent of course)
actually nah
should be smth more dramatic hmmmmm
Yea I understand why it's not in the early game but still feels too late imo
Shaman would be too op if you unlocked it earlier
not really
ehh
Gn
you have no skills to use on it, youâd just have the base moveset like every other crest
Good Night
ChatGPT still thinks Hollow Knight Silksong isn't out đđ
tell the gpt it's a dumbass
Let's keep gaslighting it
yeah its pulling its data from reddit which in our case means silkposts lmao
U can get first 2 skills in first 2 hours.
yeah i dont trust ai either
no good silk skills and gaming skill if too early
having 2 skills is not that strong i promise
especially early game with a tiny ass spool
i dont understand anyone who uses it for research
can we not make ai pull info from Reddit the moment it can
Thstorm is one of the most damaging skills
Shaman does have a really good range tho
i mean 3 of the silk skills are in act 1
Most of it's answers are gathered from community posts and it can have misinformation
đ
yo is that senris i see
oh yeah shaman would also be ass early game cuz of spool
It literally told me that Hollow Knight: Voidheart was a combination of all DLC's and thats misinformation
are shaman skills stronger than archi tool spam?
Yes another good point
is that alp or do mine eyes deceive me
Wdym spool
bro who lied to me and said first sinner was hard it took me 3 tries
small spool
No
Hollow Knight comes with all DLC's and Voidheart is just nintendo version
thine eyes do not deceive thou
anyone know any mods that add new tools
Doesnât rlly affect it that much
then shamanâs probably not too strong for act 2
I just did revolt and devotion and twice in a row then immediately failed to maintain consistency lol
I didn't buy no voidheart
I just bought base game it included all dlc
I mean I'd say they are close but I'd personally rather not have to rely on my money to utilize a crest in the most efficient way
At least it doesnât make shaman bad
you get like. sawtooth + extremely good tools around the same time you get architect
realistically in a fight with base spool, youre gonna have to worry about healing too
you wonât just be spamming skills unless youre a god gamer
you have to think about the crest in the hands of the average player
plus egg of flealia and volt filament are both pretty late game
the two things that make spamming silk skills more op
I agree tbh I feel like act 3 is too late
To make shaman good enough and not rlly op it should be there imo
Shaman will truly shine with more DLCs I just know it
Witch is pretty ok with unlocking
witch is a little annoying to unlock itself tbh
Witch has some interesting tool synergy but I just see it as a slightly better Beast crest imo
Iâd say itâs rlly good
only one that requires side quests instead of just finding it
A little is a severe understatement haha