#sk-discussion

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viscid wind
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what

lofty horizon
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i do NOT wanna become dante

gray parcel
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It’s really just pumping his blood but wtv

gray parcel
viscid wind
lofty horizon
gray parcel
viscid wind
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I never interacted with anything project moon related in my life i just believe dante looks cool

gray parcel
lofty horizon
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yeah makes sense

gray parcel
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Regardless after watching DMC and playing the games I yern for the Dante physique

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Probably gonna be my summer goal

lofty horizon
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or sm like that

gray parcel
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-# light

lofty horizon
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lIIiiIIght

gray parcel
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Going into DMC1 blind was amazing

formal marsh
gray parcel
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Guess Trish dipped and he cried

floral delta
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I only watched the new DMC anime

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I've never played the games

gray parcel
patent viper
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shit

uncut citrus
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i'm more of a songer myself, if you see what i mean

harsh yarrow
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look

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if your going to make fakes
Please for the love of god crop the image right XD

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Like- not even an image from the new keyart

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lazy

normal token
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I made this fake back when xbox trailer was new and I tried copying the style of image they did for the E3 zote

harsh yarrow
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Yes! do it like that!

lone crown
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Hivedrawer made that really good map fake

zinc pond
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No news for today?

harsh yarrow
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Nope

zinc pond
cedar trench
harsh yarrow
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Aluo did some good fakes back in the past

normal token
harsh yarrow
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The menu one is the one that I remember well

zinc pond
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UnU

lone crown
harsh yarrow
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oh damn

lone crown
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Keep watching

harsh yarrow
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yeah that is a crazy well done fake

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How old is that?

lone crown
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Not that old

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Iirc?

normal token
harsh yarrow
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Post Mossbags most recent video on Silksong?

lone crown
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Definitely my favorite fake yet sorry Aluo

harsh yarrow
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Because thats roughly what they laid out as the map design they thought was the case

normal token
lone crown
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True

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This game will flop

normal token
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This game will be slop

fresh zodiac
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listening to sex in minecraft by vargskelethor rn

lone crown
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What

cedar trench
fresh zodiac
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i dont need to explain this

lone crown
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I gotta listen to this rq

fresh zodiac
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he does a cover of creep and it goes hard

cedar trench
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100 hours on the main playlist!

cedar trench
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i gotta change the playlist cover

cunning geode
formal marsh
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thats a really good image to be fair

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my playlist covers are random memes i had saved recently when i made the playlists

cunning geode
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wait you cant use this because thats my cover

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hold on

formal marsh
cunning geode
formal marsh
# cunning geode

me to the grocery store clerk when they forget to say "have a nice day" after i'm done paying

cunning geode
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me to every customer

cedar trench
cunning geode
fresh zodiac
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this should be a good cover

fresh zodiac
# cunning geode

me when my 2 months of work into a excite truck video left me with like 200 views after my previous video got absolutely MILKED through the algorythm

leaden delta
cedar trench
cunning geode
formal marsh
cedar trench
# formal marsh Wow

this guy has so many of them i'm convinced he's on some spectrum of misogyny

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however, some are good

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actually nah i feel like i can do better

open narwhal
# cedar trench

no it's cooler to lovebomb then disappear for like 4 months before becoming super mean and then going back to lovebombing cycle after the mean phase is evil grubomg

cedar trench
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yknow i recently had a dream where i faked my death with a 1:1 copy of me in my backyard, hung by a tree, and i moved to cuba living day by day helping a mechanic with his car stuff and writing my life's work: Thalassophobia

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although thalassophobia fucking sucks as a name

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it's corny as hell

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so i probably should change it

open narwhal
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all good games should be named league of legends

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to be in line with the greatness of league ofnlegends

cedar trench
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it's not a game it's supposed to be this epic novel

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i feel like literature should exist anachronistically

open narwhal
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oh wait I forgot I'm literate and can read

cedar trench
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some things will exist forever, sure, but as soon as you take an element of day to day life and put it in a story it kind of makes the story age alongside with it

open narwhal
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I thought thalassphobia was some subnautica-esque game

cedar trench
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so you gotta be careful

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that's why i don't like pop culture references

chilly crane
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Fried chicken

cedar trench
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you kind of end up killing all the mystique in literature

uneven carbon
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wholesome reddit marvel endgame reference

cedar trench
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especially in fantasy because, inadvertedly, you tend to drift towards tropes which are already well represented elsewhere; the reader will inevitably tend to compare and it'll kill a lot of the immersion

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you gotta unlame it

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maybe it's just a problem that i have because i'm trying to imagine a fantasy story but can't take fantasy elements seriously at all

uneven carbon
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I think its called low fantasy

cedar trench
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which isn't great and is probably the reason why i completely axed things like complex magic systems or fantasy elements in worldbuilding

uneven carbon
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its fantasy but more grounded

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you give logical explanations for the fantasical occurences

cedar trench
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uyou also tend to face the problem of magic being related to what would otherwise be a "real" world and so the more questions you ask the more bullshit starts to spawn. Take harry potter

uneven carbon
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of which arent too common

cedar trench
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harry potter is ass

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the more you ask yourself "whys" in relation to the franchise the more bullshit it becomes

smoky nebula
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True
Godawful worldbuilding

cedar trench
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like why don't they put everyone in slytherin in a big meat grinder before they become terrorists? Would no one really kill baby hitler?

rancid estuary
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what is this converstion about...

uneven carbon
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silk song

cedar trench
rancid estuary
smoky nebula
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Nothing is ever about anything

cedar trench
uneven carbon
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my biggest issue with harry potter is that at the beginning they use cool spells in interesting ways to solve problems

cedar trench
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anyway

uneven carbon
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but for the final battle its just "I cast bigger laser beam"

cedar trench
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my biggest issue with harry potter is that jk rowling needs to die

uneven carbon
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idk how its the best selling book of all time

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narnia is better

smoky nebula
uneven carbon
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the lion the witch and the wardrobe is one of my favorite stories of all time

smoky nebula
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I've never read Narnia what's it like

uneven carbon
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first book is the best

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its like the hype moments and aura of high fantasy

cedar trench
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the magic system in my project is like when people die they go to the afterlife and if they do a ritual they regenerate into crabs when hurt

cedar trench
smoky nebula
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Why crabs‽

cedar trench
uneven carbon
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because everything evolves into crabs

cedar trench
cedar trench
smoky nebula
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Personally I'm of the mind that all is worm and all will return to worm but okay

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All your muscle fibers are just little worms

uneven carbon
smoky nebula
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I know

smoky nebula
uneven carbon
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this gif is so good

cedar trench
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the idea is that to be based and not be cringe i need to keep my magic system/fantasy elements at invincible-level and never really develop beyond that into wizardry bullshit

lament lotus
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No

smoky nebula
uneven carbon
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like how would crab change our day to day lives

lament lotus
cedar trench
# uneven carbon you also need to incorporate it into the world building

i mean the blueprint's there

when you die you go to an infinite plain where you get to live a second life before being reincarnated into something
a specific region of this area is inhabited by people who ritually beat the shit out of each other to get stronger
there is a false god out there who feeds on crab meat

cedar trench
smoky nebula
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How does crab change the day to day afterlife

uneven carbon
cedar trench
smoky nebula
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It's kinda hard to tell what's going on in the afterlife while alive so it makes sense that it doesn't effect the living world that much

uneven carbon
cedar trench
harsh yarrow
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hm yes
The floor here is made of floor

cedar trench
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if you die of old age you reincarnate directly but if your life is cut short you gotta finish what you started under there

uneven carbon
cedar trench
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our protagonist man and his brother killed each other while drunk in an accident

cedar trench
uneven carbon
cedar trench
uneven carbon
cedar trench
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i hate using the term angels but it gives the idea

cedar trench
uneven carbon
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unless theres a rule by the angel

cedar trench
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also it would have no purpose

uneven carbon
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would he tell her?

cedar trench
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ueah

uneven carbon
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I mean id assume she would be curious about his mission

cedar trench
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she's passionate about the occult she just rides along with it

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even though the implications are horrifying

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although the story is still in its infancy in the relationship aspect i'll confess it's the thing i thought of the least

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because like it does fall into the theme of the main character getting all these responsabilities thrusted at him but worldbuildingwise it doesn't make sense

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it did in a prior version of the story, where the protagonist adopted a child who died and then found her mother as a side quest while carrying out his world-saving duties; thus developing a relationship in a more natural way. This came with the burden of making the underworld and the transition between life and death pretty clear in the story however

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the last part kind of seems like an inevitablity and would make more sense to develop it and go forth with the original idea

uneven carbon
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I think right now (probably because this is a surface level insight to your story) there isnt much of a reason for anything, like why crabs? what is the protagonists goal? why did the angels choose him?

cedar trench
uneven carbon
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I like the idea of something with crabs due to the whole evolution thing but to readers who might not know that it could feel random

cedar trench
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The protagonist is a man with a single arm. He lives off disability even after death and decided to give himself purpose and a cool title by making himself a "detective".
This invites a bunch of bad people into his home who think he's like, a proper detective and that task him with talking to a specific guy who's got a case for him

cedar trench
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kind of the backdrop for everything

cedar trench
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and he's pretty legit because he's this high ranking general guy up there

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so the protagonist man goes "what the fuck" and becomes a pawn of the powers that b

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this is so corny i'm sorry

uneven carbon
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its not corny

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it just feels unfocused

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like you have cool ideas but you dont know how to focus them onto one streamlined story

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feels more like your developing warhammer 40k lore

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where its more of a world instead of a story

cedar trench
uneven carbon
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also you should work on an elevator pitch

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not just for others but it also gives you a zoom out of your story

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so you know where you're going

cedar trench
uneven carbon
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if you what

cedar trench
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try right now

uneven carbon
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go for it

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whenever I have an idea for a story I also make a google slides presentation to organize my thoughts

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it helps a lot

cedar trench
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A man, dead, spends his days in the afterlife bored and feeling unaccomplished because of his physical condition and lack of drive to do just about anything. that, and he's under intense stress due to the rising tensions between the people of his region and higher ups in heaven.
To distance himself from his reality, he and his friend childishly decide to call themselves detectives and open an agency to parade themselves with that title.
They're immediately contacted by a high ranking man who works up there in heaven and tells them that the conflict is entirely fabricated and there's something fishy going on with their leader. Protagonist man must round up all people he can to face off against a tyrannical regime before they wipe his world off for no reason and most importantly figure out why

uneven carbon
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however maybe instead of them making theyre own agency

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they find one and on a whim they decide to join by lying about their own credentials

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by saying they were famous detectives in the overworld

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which nobody can prove

cedar trench
coarse leaf
uneven carbon
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yeah I was gonna talk about that too

cedar trench
uneven carbon
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my idea would be that the agency would give the job to the protags because they want to test their credentials

cedar trench
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i discussed this with a friend not too long ago holdon

uneven carbon
uneven carbon
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so doing a favor for an angel would provide some sort of gift for them

cedar trench
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and it'll be ugly

uneven carbon
cedar trench
cedar trench
# cedar trench

this is a bit too complex and i feel like cutting a bit of the fat here but the jist is that general man offers them the mission only after they kill a crazy instigator

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and they find said crazy instigator through a dead man who enters their studio to give them zhe device™

uneven carbon
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ok so this is my understanding:

cedar trench
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if this ever comes into fruition igotta get the pacing JUUUUUST RIGHT because if i rollercoaster the start i immediately fuck everything up there's so much shit happening

uneven carbon
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2 guys, bored, with the knowledge that their after life will end soon due to an incoming war decide to have a mid-afterlife crisis where they decide to open up a detective agency for fun but unexpectedly a high ranking official of heaven meets with them and is in desperate need of their help, however before they can truly begin the offical asks them to first eliminate an instigator of the upcoming war to see if theyre ready for the challenge ahead

sinful flare
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Krill

cedar trench
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but basically yes

uneven carbon
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wait so they get the top secret info before they do anything?

cedar trench
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no they get the top secret info at the end

uneven carbon
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ok wait so you said they have to kill a fella before being able to work on the main mission

cedar trench
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they get a device they don't know how to use. To try and figure out they go to this old hardware factory which used to develop stuff in tandem with heaven, although contact was cut short after tension started rising. they go there and there's this guy here who's fucking everything up and wants to immediately set everything off

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The protagonist man kills him in retaliation but doesn't really realize what he did

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he figures out how to use the model of the device he's been given and manages to summon general man who says "damn ok you did this i can trust you i guess"

sharp agate
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Can we have a serious convo? Why is chicken and waffles so mediocre?

uneven carbon
midnight portal
uneven carbon
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what if:
two protags walking around afterlife when they discover that device and decide to track its origin and then it stays the same as the original where they kill the instigator BUT when theyre leaving the official appears in front of them thinking that theyre the detectives that he sent out to do the job for him @cedar trench

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and since theyre bored theyre like sure yeah were the detectives

cedar trench
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the detective part is kind of important for them to tackle early on

sharp agate
uneven carbon
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not realizing how important the job is they just taken on over a whim

midnight portal
uneven carbon
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BTW its your story and you know it best im just throwing out ideas

cedar trench
midnight portal
uneven carbon
cedar trench
uneven carbon
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like would their childish quality reflect actions made later

cedar trench
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it's just a character quirk

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sometimes people do stuff because that's how they are

uneven carbon
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im aware but just like in movies: dont include something that doesnt serve the story

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even if its realistic

cedar trench
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the characters push the story forward

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and characterization is important

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you can't just have story all the time

uneven carbon
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not what I meant, I mean have them be childish actually affect the story somewhat in the choices they make

cedar trench
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like general man has a devastating smoke addiction he's constantly smoking

cedar trench
uneven carbon
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ok good

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thats what I meant originally

chilly crane
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Team zonc

cedar trench
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and the theme of cycles in the story

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and finding a destination within an endless loop

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he's kind of an infinite loop as a person he's never gonna get past his addiction he's always searching for god while he knows damn well he'll never answer he's in love with a man who will never reciprocate

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but these things kind of are what makes him wake up in the morning in the midst of everything because it's a hope he clings onto even if it'll lead him to nowhere

uneven carbon
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well I think another question is whats the theme of the story

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like whats the message

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from what ive seen im getting a theme of the search for God/meaning in a world of religion

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what are you trying to convey to the reader

cedar trench
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or any direction

uneven carbon
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thats good

cedar trench
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or any appreciation for the world that's around you

uneven carbon
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that could be a way to set the climax/a major conflict

cedar trench
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you dictate your own meaning

uneven carbon
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with one of the protags losing sight of the goal

cedar trench
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good call

uneven carbon
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like maybe he would be like "I miss when it was simpler where we would just wander aimlessly, it was easy"

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now obviously without the shitty dialogue

cedar trench
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i think if protagonist man started looking behind himself it would kind of defeat the point

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the thing is that he's constantly faced with a new great and terrible task and he always overcomes it

uneven carbon
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well it could be an inner struggle

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its interesting but its hard and tiring

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and he somewhat longs for the laid back life he had, even though it was dreadully boring

cedar trench
uneven carbon
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but I also didnt mean the main protag

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what if its his buddy thats dragging him down

cedar trench
cedar trench
uneven carbon
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oh

cedar trench
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that's one thing i'm 100% certain about his friend dies

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that and the general dude

uneven carbon
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well again maybe that can set an inner struggle for him

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hes doing what he wants now, but at the cost of losing his friend

cedar trench
uneven carbon
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like even though his life before was boring, he still had his buddy and life was easy

carmine island
uneven carbon
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and maybe theres even an antagonist that offers him his friend back as a means of ending his journey

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and he has to make a decision

carmine island
uneven carbon
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continue on the hard path or return to a boring life with his friend even if it means certain death

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and he has to grasp with how his friend never wanted to go on the journey in the first place and that the protag kinda dragged him in so he feels guilty for his death

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just some ideas

opaque sigil
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Maybe it’s time to just get back into uk

opaque sigil
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After I finish Clair obscur

pliant juniper
uneven carbon
carmine island
vivid belfry
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yes, and you can actually instantly redirect the rocket while riding it by using a magnet

uneven carbon
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so they would want the protag to give up and return so he doesnt find the truth

cedar trench
vivid belfry
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this only works on guttertank/security system rockets and not player rockets

carmine island
cedar trench
vivid belfry
uneven carbon
cedar trench
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i want to end the story on a cliffhanger

carmine island
uneven carbon
cedar trench
vivid belfry
cedar trench
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he still gets fucked over don't get me wrong

uneven carbon
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I think you misread my message

cedar trench
uneven carbon
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im saying what is stopping the main villain from just killing the protag

cedar trench
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he can't do it directly

carmine island
uneven carbon
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like those in heaven cant directly interact with mortals?

cedar trench
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he sees him walking around and wrecking havoc and he knows he's there but he doesn't know how

uneven carbon
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so he wants to capture him

cedar trench
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yes

uneven carbon
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well again why doesnt he just do it himself

cedar trench
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he faked his own death

uneven carbon
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ohhh

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thats a good reason

cedar trench
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that's why the war started in the first place

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nobody knows he's alive not even the general

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and he doesn't know about the general because he's technically outside of the network he's operating through

uneven carbon
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and he hires the contractors using an alias I assume

fiery burrow
cedar trench
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but he has very limited vision on what actually happens so this very little rebellion group forming is out of his sights

uneven carbon
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because hes hiding out and he only receives info from his affiliates?

cedar trench
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yes

uneven carbon
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okay that makes sense

cedar trench
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one of his affiliates, which is actually our general's love interest, doesn't disclose the information he knows with him because he's actually playing his own game

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at the end of the story, when he knows it's safe, he sells out the general man to the big bad guy and uses the window he creates to steal a very important object and erase his soul

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the ultimate form of escapism

uneven carbon
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oh the affiliate?

cedar trench
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yeah

uneven carbon
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so his main goal is death

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as he views immortality as a burden

cedar trench
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death is a very weird concept in universe

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you always return in one way or another

uneven carbon
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but erasure of the soul prevents that?

cedar trench
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there is still you somewhere. In the people you meet in the ideas that you spread in the past in the present and in the future

uneven carbon
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as it cannot reincarnate if theres no soul

cedar trench
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he wants to kill the man AND the idea

uneven carbon
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wait does he erase his own soul or the bad guy

cedar trench
harsh slate
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i'm pretty sure e1331 is actually william pellen

uneven carbon
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so its another example of the loop thing your going for of either escaping it or finding a place in the loop where you can be happy?

sharp agate
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Have any of yall beated Elder Ring yet

cedar trench
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because nihilism is stupid

uneven carbon
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I agree

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alright well I think I got a good understanding and it does sound interesting

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and the elevator pitch helped a lot

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because before that I was pretty lost

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but like I said before have a way to organize your thoughts

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which I recommend google slides

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helped me so many times when it came to crafting stories

cedar trench
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so i really needed this to kind of

compact locust
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fitness whole wiener in your mouth

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gottem

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🔥 grublove feelspkman

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ok sorry wont do that again

cedar trench
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this is so funny you did everything by yourself

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deleted some of my messages so the interaction looks even crazier

queen kayak
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ive been waiting for my nimble protector shirt to start shipping from fangamer for a week now im so anxious and excited to finally get it

sinful flare
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nimble protector like hornet from hollow knight??? i know that game

queen kayak
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leaps at you

lament lotus
queen kayak
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BAH!! I am an evil scarab

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Face my ancient curse!!

queen kayak
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EEK!!!

carmine island
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I love how we all had the same idea lmao

sinful flare
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go my evil scarab

lament lotus
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hi kaan

queen kayak
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all silksong fans think the same

sinful flare
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hi astr

carmine island
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Hi oicid

queen kayak
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because their brains have deteriorated waiting for this game

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i ignored silksong for like 6 years now so i wouldnt have the same fate but it has recently befallen me again..

carmine island
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I’m not a Silksong fan

carmine island
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Tbh hollow knight was pretty mediocre I’m just here because of sunk cost fallacy

lament lotus
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thats one way to put it

lament lotus
queen kayak
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Hollow knight middling game... Who would ever play it :\

heady iron
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Alright guys

queen kayak
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The only interesting thing in hollow knight was mender bug

heady iron
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100 men vs 1 gorilla hypothetical

carmine island
queen kayak
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I'm sure we'll get the macebug pinball game soon.

queen kayak
lament lotus
carmine island
lament lotus
queen kayak
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im like 50/50 on it because i think the gorilla could easily kill tons of people if it was determined but i also think that even just a few men could easily damage the gorilla if they just land a single good strike

lone crown
lament lotus
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jingo you cant just leave

queen kayak
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also

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minor tangent but like... can we talk about how PRETTY silksong is

carmine island
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Yeha sure

heady iron
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Pretty LAME

queen kayak
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this might be pretty dumb but i looked at the trailers again and saw how objects in the bg will like fall over and swoosh when you do something explosive / flashy and i just went like

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oh my god. no WONDER this game took so long. it genuinely looks like a MASTERPIECE

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it's amazing im genuinely awed LOL

carmine island
harsh yarrow
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Aris artstyle has improved alot between Hollow Knight and Silksong

queen kayak
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YEAH

harsh yarrow
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Its almost like Silksong is an indie game made by 3 people with a budget of just about "yes"

queen kayak
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its genuinely amazing and the fact that they can now use everything they learned while making hollowknight to make silksong

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and silksong is made off the foundation of hollowknight? they absolutely BLEW IT OUT OF THE PARK

opaque sigil
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It definitely looks like a huge improvement in basically every way

harsh yarrow
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Just compare Moss Grotto to Greenpath

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Moss Grotto is better in every way, and comparable on music

silver oak
queen kayak
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😭

carmine island
queen kayak
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IM JUST HAPPY TO SEE STUFF LIKE THAT

opaque sigil
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That kind of stuff works even if you aren’t actively noticing it

queen kayak
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ITS REALLY COOL.. it shows off the work they put in

carmine island
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I’ll make a tier list of things that go swoosh

silver oak
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Yes that’s the thing

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They still put the time in despite it being such a minor thing

harsh yarrow
queen kayak
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ohh i thought you were like "woow this SUCKS ... another team cherry FAIL 🙄 "

silver oak
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That’s the level of commitment they’re doing for the full game

harsh yarrow
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Like in moss grotto- the moss on the floor squishes a bit

harsh yarrow
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And the other thing, she actually has footsteps with weight behind them!

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Shes not that much larger than the Knight, but you can tell she has weight behind each step

silver oak
queen kayak
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im just so happy to see how the games doing honestly... I know a lot of people are upset with how long its taking (i agree team cherry can be tight lipped about not giving us news) but if they're making THIS... its really worth it imo

carmine island
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Everyone who has valid criticisms about Silksong is just running with the bit

opaque sigil
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My one real gripe is the respawn system being the same as HK I’m not a fan of it

carmine island
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I hate popular thing!!

lament lotus
harsh yarrow
#

Its much easier to praise what we can see rather than criticize what we cant

#

The one growing concern I have is to do with Hornets spells

#

I do like having the 3 spells at your disposal in Hollow Knight at all times, making Soul more than just extra health

#

But it does look like Silksong will just have 1 spell at a time

#

Especially considering the UI :3

silver oak
#

Well that’s on top of the tool system

queen kayak
#

im not sure about it yet

#

mhm!! The tool system being one that makes you use collectibles to refuel it is something i'm concerned about

silver oak
#

There’s an extra layer of active combat supplements

harsh yarrow
queen kayak
#

because what if you're fighting a boss and keep dying and have to go back and get shellshards somewhere else because your tools ran out?

opaque sigil
#

Shell shards could end up sucking

queen kayak
#

maybe it's counted for in the gameplay loop, so idk

harsh yarrow
#

Thats why they're doing it, only so many keys on a keyboard, and only so many buttons on a console

harsh yarrow
carmine island
opaque sigil
#

Mods are not real solutions

flint otter
#

yeah i'm not sure I'm a fan of tools rn. My gameplay might be heavily effected by me trying not to use/change them

harsh yarrow
#

Or Team Cherry will themselves

heady iron
#

They're minimizing the number of controls so that its as intuitive as possible for the inevitable mobile port

silver oak
opaque sigil
carmine island
silver oak
#

I almost never used spells

harsh yarrow
#

Though from the demo, most tools dont cost that many shellshards

lament lotus
edgy valve
#

wait silksong discussion happening in MY mhw discussion channel?

harsh yarrow
#

And you start with being able to hold 500, thats some 20+ deaths worth of tools if the pins are anything to go off of

silver oak
#

I feel like it’ll only be an issue where you gotta conserve them in longer fights

#

Arenas and bosses

harsh yarrow
#

Or you get Mantis Lorded

queen kayak
#

i do think shellshards are decently balanced

harsh yarrow
#

repeatedly flinging yourself at a boss to learn and defeat it

queen kayak
#

team cherry has said they were worried ablout how hollow knight, people had TONS of geo by endgame because they rushed through the game. considering that's something they're accounting for now, I think balance around something like this will be good

harsh yarrow
#

Though Mantis Lords did have a good amount of Mantis's before them, which would probably just let you refill any shellshards

queen kayak
#

it looks like hornets shellshard wallet IS pretty big, and I'm expecting there's gonna be some sort of system in check for people to account for it

harsh yarrow
#

Its also almost certainly upgradable

queen kayak
#

I imagine they could also factor it into the gameplay loop (If you're struggling with a boss enough to die and lose all shellshards, you're expected to go do quests and replenish them and get stronger at the same time)

silver oak
harsh yarrow
#

I wouldnt be supprised if they pull a Horizion Zero Dawn and have some NPCs that sell shellshards

silver oak
#

Shell shards and geo aren’t analogous

harsh yarrow
#

The annoying part with Rosarys is going to be getting alot, and dying before you can put them on a string

queen kayak
normal token
queen kayak
#

where you'll lose ALL your rosaries when dying, but you can store them as rosarie beads.

harsh yarrow
#

You loose all loose beads on death, but not the beads you've got on a string

queen kayak
#

And of course making rosarie strings (messed up calling them beads lol) will obviously cost a bit more other than at those special benches, so that fact will cancel out having a ton saved by endgame

harsh yarrow
#

NPCs will trade loose rosarys for ones on a string, though

#

for a price, of course

queen kayak
#

mhm!!

#

I'm SOOO excited to play... systems like that seem to be what will make silksong really special

#

it's all just so cool

#

Of course we can be negative all day but I'm sure team cherry have at least somewhat balanced these factors

normal token
#

Deadass wonder if it's going to have the biggest metroidvania map ever

harsh yarrow
#

Probably not

opaque sigil
#

There’s no reason to think you can’t recover rosaries from your cocoon

harsh yarrow
#

They said as much

#

rosary strings- yes
the beads? no

opaque sigil
queen kayak
#

i can imagine pharloom WILL be huge, but i don't think it'll be the BIGGEST... by my estimate it'll be 2x as large as hallownest but comparatively about as long to explore it

harsh yarrow
#

Could've changed since 2020/2021

opaque sigil
queen kayak
#

They said it in edge or something, right?

harsh yarrow
#

They did, I think in both the Treehouse and in the Edge Magazine

queen kayak
#

Don't remember exactly where but they did say you can't recover beads from cocoons

opaque sigil
#

No

queen kayak
#

thats why strings exist, right?

opaque sigil
#

That was true of the demo but that was a very early demo

opaque sigil
harsh yarrow
#

Im pretty sure they repeated it in the Edge Magazine

#

I dont deny that its kinda stupid though- I hope it changes

opaque sigil
#

They didn’t at any point say you can’t recover beads from the cocoon

harsh yarrow
#

But that'd make the strings kinda pointless

opaque sigil
#

No it wouldn’t

#

They’re an extra layer of security

queen kayak
#

This is NOT edge magazine, just screenrant, but they seem to confirm it too

#

it's taking from edge i think

harsh yarrow
#

Could also be from the post E3 wrap

queen kayak
#

mhm

opaque sigil
queen kayak
#

im forgetting where exactly LOL

silver oak
#

Screenrant isn’t a source zote

harsh yarrow
#

lemmme find the edge magazine...

queen kayak
#

truth is we just don't know 😔

queen kayak
harsh yarrow
atomic sparrow
#

hey guys

opaque sigil
#

That doesn’t mean you can’t get them back otherwise

queen kayak
#

I think it implies that you lose beads when you die. We just can't know yet though

opaque sigil
#

That is completely consistent with that in addition to the normal recovery

queen kayak
#

it's just not clear wording.

opaque sigil
#

Obviously you lose them you lose them in HK too

harsh yarrow
#

We'll have to see

#

I still want to say they implied between the Edge Magazine and the Treehouse that rosary beads are just lost on death, but eh

opaque sigil
#

Edge doesn’t imply it whatsoever

#

Treehouse hosts only had the context of the demo

queen kayak
#

yeah i sorta agree but alsoo

#

the heavy implication is enough for me to say "this is probably how it works"

#

just how i feel

harsh yarrow
#

It'll be interesting no mater

opaque sigil
#

It’ll be bad if it works that way but the economy isn’t the point anyways

#

It’s just a pain and completely obliterates the point of the death mechanic

harsh yarrow
#

yeah

queen kayak
#

we'll have to see how the death mechanic works

#

we just dunno yet!

opaque sigil
#

At that point you may as well not lose rosaries in the first place it’s just better qol

clever sable
#

hollow knight took like 3 years to develop? and they only stopped because the money ran out

#

silksong is going to be crazyyy

harsh yarrow
#

Its not impossible that its been changed since

queen kayak
#

mhm

#

i do agree, its very possible some systems we've seen in early silksong have changed

opaque sigil
#

There’s no reason to think it ever was intended to work that way

carmine island
#

They should get government funding and just keep developing

queen kayak
#

Now that's just being pedantic

carmine island
#

Australia does not need a military or healthcare

normal token
queen kayak
#

If edge thought it worked that way due to a direct interview with TC, then I'm sure there's reasonable basis for them even bringing it up

opaque sigil
#

Edge doesn’t think it worked that way

#

At no point does the section in edge say or imply that you can’t get rosaries back from the cocoon

#

Just that having them strung is safer, which it is since you can’t die twice and lose them permanently

harsh yarrow
#

or that its safer because you loose them otherwise

midnight portal
#

sink song

queen kayak
#

sink sog

carmine island
queen kayak
#

nah

#

for all we know tho it could just be bc its a demo

opaque sigil
#

And had no actual use for rosaries

#

Etc

harsh yarrow
#

Yeah

carmine island
#

Fair enough

harsh yarrow
#

Though the demo probably did have uses for rosaries- just not in the playable sections

neon adder
queen kayak
#

silk dog

harsh yarrow
#

I assume the demo build was probably the same or similar to the reveal build, sooo

ember violet
queen kayak
#

unrelated but... huh. never knew discord does that

#

🐕

formal marsh
marsh ibex
queen kayak
marsh ibex
queen kayak
#

i think its just cuz' of puppy dog eyes

#

ohhh understandable LOL

formal marsh
marsh ibex
#

the one depicted there, though?

#

hellspawn.

shell yacht
opaque sigil
marsh ibex
queen kayak
marsh ibex
#

also deadass why are weebs so sexist

formal marsh
#

never met a woman

opaque sigil
marsh ibex
#

Reading this manhwa with interesting female characters and holy shit the comments are vile

queen kayak
#

the issue is just how anime and stuff has always depicted women poorly

marsh ibex
#

“Wow I know why this has the annoying characters tag”

#

“Blah blah waifu bait”

queen kayak
#

but i also think its an issue with people who entered the community as it was just existing

opaque sigil
#

They’re centralized around a medium that like chronically hates women

marsh ibex
#

holy shit SHUUUUUT UP

queen kayak
#

mhm

#

i think it might have issue to do with how women are depicted and treated in japan, but that of course isn't something I'm really qualified to talk about, so take it as baseless speculation,

calm thorn
#

ur talking about funny emotes ? love that one personally hollowgun

marsh ibex
#

infuriating

opaque sigil
#

That exists to some extent just in general tbf

#

Like the wife in breaking bad

marsh ibex
#

Ugh

opaque sigil
#

People fucking hated her and like sent the actress threats and shit iirc???

marsh ibex
queen kayak
#

thats awful

formal marsh
#

is the character even a bad person in the show or does she just go against her innocent husband's hobby (drug dealing)

wispy stream
opaque sigil
#

Which is another thing if there’s a female actor and people don’t like their characters the actress has a fucking target

marsh ibex
brittle garnet
#

okay hot take but i think Team Cherry maybe removed the recovery of money when you die so that people don't feel like they're forced to keep returning to where they died

marsh ibex
#

it insists upon itself

marsh ibex
opaque sigil
marsh ibex
#

the money isn’t the problem it’s having your capabilities nerfed

opaque sigil
brittle garnet
#

yeah that would make it weird if the damaged silk meter is from dying

queen kayak
marsh ibex
#

it also doesn’t seem pertinent to discuss based on a 2019 demo that had no actual functionality for money in it

brittle garnet
#

yeah that's true

marsh ibex
sinful flare
marsh ibex
#

also I heard she might’ve cheated too? But like KAAN FUCK YOU

opaque sigil
#

She acts like a reasonable person throughout as far as I can remember if anything she enables Walter more than she maybe should’ve

sinful flare
#

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHH THAT WAS SO FAST

shell yacht
sinful flare
#

NKT EVEN 1 SECOND

shell yacht
#

The show was terribly boring and overrated

marsh ibex
#

don’t you play league

sinful flare
#

i do

carmine island
sinful flare
#

I DDINT EXPECT YOU TO REPLY SO FAST

marsh ibex
opaque sigil
#

Powdered has bad takes you can just ignore him most of the time

shell yacht
marsh ibex
#

honestly I haven’t watched bb or bcs because I am a filthy nerd who watches a lot of cartoons and anime

formal marsh
#

Based? Based on what?

calm thorn
#

wait there's something i don't understand : if rosaries are the actual money, what are mask shards used to grubthink

marsh ibex
fiery burrow
marsh ibex
#

I ain’t watching

#

Also banning star

shell yacht
calm thorn
silver oak
fiery burrow
# marsh ibex I ain’t watching

A video essay proving without a doubt that Walter White Did Absolutely Nothing Wrong.

Note:
This video essay falls under Fair Use under Copyright Law. This video is NOT an infringement on copyright. https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html

Sources:

AND [beattape] by toss-e:https://soundcloud.com/toss-e/and-full-mix

Baby Blue by Bad...

▶ Play video
carmine island
#

Lmao

silver oak
#

Finally we can ban star

opaque sigil
shell yacht
#

Tell me this YouTube channel is satire

marsh ibex
#

Ok it’s definitely sexist

carmine island
#

Fellas I’m going in

marsh ibex
carmine island
#

Wish me luck

opaque sigil
#

There are a lot of people who think Walter was the good guy

marsh ibex
#

How could he be the bad guy

formal marsh
carmine island
#

Walt did nothing wrong when he poisoned that child brock had it coming

fiery burrow
shell yacht
#

I wish that answered my question

#

Lmao

#

People can be that unhinged

silver oak
#

Guy who doesn’t know what an unreliable narrator is

queen kayak
#

i love the animations hornet has they're so fun

queen kayak
#

i really like that spider scuttle and the mid - air dodge thing.. they're just so cute

silver oak
#

The squidward one is good

opaque sigil
formal marsh
#

Of course I know what an unreliable narrator is!

#

An unreliable narrator is an untrustworthy storyteller, most often used in narratives with a first-person point of view. The unreliable narrator is either deliberately deceptive or unintentionally misguided, forcing the reader to question their credibility as a storyteller.

opaque sigil
silver oak
opaque sigil
#

I know people idolize him but like

silver oak
#

It was never alive

queen kayak
#

an unreliable narrator is the pale kind

#

t. the pale king. i mean. the pale king. he was not very kind

formal marsh
opaque sigil
formal marsh
#

the lollipop one?

silver oak
#

Yeah

formal marsh
#

that's peak design ngl

silver oak
#

Quintessential example of people thinking the narrator is supposed to be sympathetic

opaque sigil
shell yacht
#

The what poster

opaque sigil
#

People tend to overlook that the pov character is deceiving himself

shell yacht
#

Is this a movie I've never heard of

silver oak
#

yknow what maybe not the best topic to bring up here

#

my bad

shell yacht
#

Time to mute you again

carmine island
formal marsh
#

i am quite fond of orange

shell yacht
#

I got this yesterday and not only is there nothing worth spending it on it's not enough to actually buy like anything

#

Also with the way they handle reward points now it'll be gone by the time for the next one rolls around

formal marsh
#

you own a switch?

shell yacht
#

Yeah I bought it for a monster hunter game jinnsmile

#

That I didn't know was a timed exclusive and I wouldn't have bought the switch otherwise

formal marsh
shell yacht
#

Also I bought my switch for $100 at the thrift shop I work at years ago

#

The joycons are beyond buggy and broken so I always leave it docked and play with a pro controller

#

Not that I play anything on it anymore

zinc pond
#

Skong today?

lament lotus
#

with like a thousand of those

#

i got like 2000 but realised to you need to live in america for them to ship it to you

shell yacht
# zinc pond Skong today?

If there was news like the game being released you would have been pinged about it don't keep doing this every few hours or every day

shell yacht
#

Which is like 200 Short of buying a keychain at minimum

shell yacht
#

Jokes on you I already did

#

Ha

atomic sparrow
#

🥂 🍾 🍻

#

cheers

marsh ibex
#

Yeah, no.

coarse leaf
#

Hellofeelspkman

sinful flare
#

its 28th of april

sinful flare
carmine island
#

It’s the 28th for me

uncut citrus
#

now is your chance !

marsh ibex
uncut citrus
marsh ibex
#

In simpler terms it is how I vent my frustrations

marsh ibex
#

I will not succumb to the temptation of alcohol

coarse leaf
#

U should

#

Become an alcoholic

#

Absolutely

halcyon shadow
#

You should become an alcoholic

sharp agate
coarse leaf
#

Nah u don't wanna get obese

#

Drink alcohol

#

Or hit that zaza
Up to you

sharp agate
valid sable
silver oak
#

garmond and zaza

sharp agate
#

grubomg oh dear

formal marsh
#

@marsh ibex become an alcoholic

lament lotus
#

guys i think peer pressure is wrong

carmine island
#

Come on guys let’s go drink and do drugs unless you’re too much of a wimp!!

stark estuary
#

You should become an alcoholic I think

chilly crane
#

Arr see see

halcyon shadow
#

What if we all became alcoholics

#

And then tried to do steel soul speedruns while absolutely hammered,

#

And competed to see either who could get the furthest or who completes the fastest

subtle flint
#

was playing dredge earlier

#

and i shat myself

#

end of log

opaque sigil
formal marsh
formal marsh
#

i knew it was lovecraftian but didnt know it was horror

marsh ibex
subtle flint
#

id say that its more psychological horror

#

altough with some overall standard horror elements

#

its amazing so far

#

really love it

formal marsh
#

gooooood morning night city

sage glade
opaque sigil
#

I’ve had alcohol

#

It’s mid

subtle flint
#

shrimply not enough

#

smile

lament lotus
#

every single alcoholic drink sucks

sage glade
subtle flint
#

jäger does indeed not taste like ass

sage glade
#

can't believe they got The Batman to play the role of a french guy

#

unbelievable

lament lotus
sage glade
#

yeah

#

i'm loving the skies

opaque sigil
#

Skyboxes are pretty solid throughout (when visible ofc)

opaque sigil
#

(I actually don’t really care that much for his playstyle but he’s fine)

#

And I like his dynamic with maelle

serene chasm
#

Silksong will have the best skybox

gloomy jackal
bitter marlin
#

guys what if silksong is just stuck in. roblox pending

gloomy jackal
#

silksong

gloomy jackal
queen kayak
#

seeing silksong footage make my heart explode i have to play this game

#

when i actually play the game im going to EXPLODE

bitter marlin
gloomy jackal
#

silkso

serene chasm
#

How can you play if your heart exploded

queen kayak
#

😲

serene chasm
#

how are you talking

bitter marlin
#

guys june 5th silksong trust

queen kayak
#

I don't know... I'll have to use a mirror so I'm technically not directly viewing the game 😊

#

Thank's for the advice!!

bitter marlin
#

theyre baiting us, its gonna drop june 5th

gloomy jackal
#

29? 5? Silk?

queen kayak
#

They've delayed silksong publically so they don't know about this.

bitter marlin
#

GUYS TEAM CHERRY THEMSELVES TOLD ME THAT SILKSONG WILL RELEASE INBETWEEN NOW AND INFINITY

queen kayak
#

💥 WHAT

gloomy jackal
#

CHERRY TEAM

queen kayak
#

Guy

bitter marlin
#

so we have a release window

queen kayak
#

's can we get another delay

#

I think this would be BEST for the development of silksong!

bitter marlin
#

its inbtween now and the heat death of the universe

bitter marlin
#

what if ss causes the heat death pf the universe

gloomy jackal
#

SILK 5/5 SILK

bitter marlin
#

alsp who here is getting a switch 2?

queen kayak
#

my theory is silksong is releasing in like.. july - september

queen kayak
gloomy jackal
formal marsh
sage glade
bitter marlin
#

bloxking ppl over getting a console is crazy work

queen kayak
#

i dont really need 1 either because none of the exclusive games interest me

#

all i need is silksong and DR. and white knuckle

#

i LOVE WHITE KNUCKLE WHITE KNUCKLE IS SO GOOD

bitter marlin
#

(im addicted to trash games help)

queen kayak
#

go play white knuckle... NOW (demo free on steam)

#

i havent played pokemon in foreveerrr

#

last time i played was when pokemon brick bronze was on roblox and i plated that

bitter marlin
#

pokemon games are so ass but they have my brain in a headlock

queen kayak
#

pokemon brick bronze was the first place I got a shiny pokemon LOL

#

im ashamed to admit

silver oak
gloomy jackal
#

i started playing schedule 1 its really taking my mind off silksssso

silver oak
#

good night

queen kayak
#

im so sad brick bronze is deeaad

bitter marlin
queen kayak
#

Lumian Legacy exists but... I don't care for it LOL

formal marsh
queen kayak
#

Oh, it's the old AMA, lol.

#

i've been browsing that recently

queen kayak
#

cant wait to meet all the new characters in silksong...

bitter marlin
#

yall demmeber pokemon fighters EX on roblox?

warped rock
formal marsh
#

I personally have no interest in the AMAs. I'm currently cultivating a parasocial relationship with Team Cherry's programming guy whose name I forgot

queen kayak
#

Mayybee? might've played it one

harsh yarrow
fiery burrow
formal marsh
#

That's right!

bitter marlin
#

monsters of eitheria

queen kayak
#

Mhm...

#

Monsters of etheria oh i LOOOVED the pokemon version

#

is that what it used to be? I don't remember

bitter marlin
#

yeah

#

pokemon fighters EX was the old version

queen kayak
#

I had nearly EVERY pokemon on there... i LOVED that game

#

then i never played etheria 🙃

bitter marlin
#

i unfortuanly didnt play it alot

bitter marlin
#

if you liked pokemon fighters ex youll like etheria

queen kayak
#

it does seem like it but it also seems. dead

#

sadly.

#

Unrelated but...

bitter marlin
#

100 playwrs active rn is decent

gloomy jackal
#

im gonna throw up, i took a little nap and this is my 2nd dream about silksong

queen kayak
#

Whose a character / group you're excited to see in silksong

#

real...

gloomy jackal
queen kayak
#

seems cool!!

queen kayak
#

so cutes 😊

mighty crest
#

I hope Huntress does something interesting

queen kayak
#

I imagine she's gonna be half - quest giver half hunters journal

#

probably somewhat related to hunts and grand hunts

gloomy jackal
mighty crest
#

Probably

opaque sigil
queen kayak
formal marsh
#

2 ads after 1 song is crazy

queen kayak
#

I really like how they parallel the maskmakers comment on masks, bugs without faces being given masks and identity, but the bugs in the citadel are stripped of their faces and controlled on strings

gloomy jackal
formal marsh
#

i need spotify premium back ASAP or im cooked

queen kayak
#

thats SO SO COOL, i really love the mirroring

queen kayak
#

They're so cute, I love them

gloomy jackal
#

also, we're reaching the 29th of april

#

is this the first suspected release date of 2025?

teal gazelle
#

SILKSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG

gloomy jackal
queen kayak
#

I hope closer to release news on silksong ramps up

#

... Even if I doubt it 😅

#

I do think we're likely to get like, some comments from Leth or a blogpost, though!!

atomic sparrow
#

Andy

queen kayak
#

Hello Andy bug!

atomic sparrow
#

hi !

young saffron
queen kayak
#

THEY'RE ALL SO COOL AND CUTE

#

the designs for silksong i EAT THEM UP...

#

they make me so happy to see and im gonna LOVE the fanart for this game

sage glade
gloomy jackal
#

" todays silksong news - YES " was in my last dream, the addiction is getting crazy

queen kayak
#

they've really honed into the style

sage glade
#

anyway just began act 1

queen kayak
sage glade
#

||they all died|| flukeayaya

versed pollen
mighty crest
queen kayak
gloomy jackal
#

LEAVE ME BE

versed pollen
#

Scary is a strong word

#

I'm more active in this server than Mosscord

fiery burrow
#

Bro is in mosscord

versed pollen
#

They talk about gay people and communism there

queen kayak
#

What's mosscord

versed pollen
#

Have I convinced you otherwise yet

queen kayak
#

Gay people and communism go well together with silksong!

atomic sparrow
#

a combination of mossbag and discord

queen kayak
#

Ohh!

gloomy jackal
queen kayak
#

Didn't know he had that

fiery burrow
queen kayak
fiery burrow
#

Its raven.