sk-discussion

[iron spear]

Why make game when merch sells

[lone crown]

Like pokemon

They barely make functioning games since it all comes from merch

[ashen hearth]

Mega Man at SGF trust

[iron spear]

All the big ips make more from Merch than anything else

Thanks George Lucas

[rustic ore]

the fuck happens in March

[iron spear]

Hahaha

[delicate knoll]

thanks Disney

Oh no I was lying when I said I was playing baby hornet. now there's a message saying that the files could be dangerous. I'm scared

I just downloaded it

[fiery burrow]

where did you download this from

[cold maple]

any final fantasy fans?

[delicate knoll]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/t2k7pt/baby_hornet_movement_demo_release_for_hollow/

lol. looks cute

[iron spear]

Windows defender will flag anything that hooks into another program

Which mods do a lot

[cold maple]

final fantasy 6?

[fiery burrow]

[delicate knoll]

I see

[cold maple]

anybody know if ff6 matches the hype?

[iron spear]

But I mean it could also be a virus lol make sure you got it from the right place

[cold maple]

most of us are too young

[heavy magnet]

yes

(best one)

[frozen frigate]

creeper blew up the collection area of my mob farm bro why do they immediately explode after hitting the ground that's fucked up

[heavy magnet]

best one in town

[delicate knoll]

Baby hornet is going to DESTROY my computer. what do i do

[cold maple]

should i play or watch a story explanation?

[delicate knoll]

you are right. good advice

[heavy magnet]

you'll get more out of playing it

[lucid holly]

Any freaksong news

[iron spear]

Honestly virus don't really destroy computers anymore, hackers are after your credentials

[lucid holly]

Indeed

[cold maple]

hmm turn based is not my area

[heavy magnet]

depends on how much you like classic JRPG gameplay

[iron spear]

Malware just steals all your stuff now days

[delicate knoll]

(I'm joking by the way but what you say is completely valid)

[rustic ore]

there's nothing to steal lmao

[eager creek]

They're not fun anymore 😔😔

[rustic ore]

im so untrustworthy i dont get hacked by virtue of being a valueless member of society

[cold maple]

how much better would it be to
play

[heavy magnet]

you'll get a lot more invested in these little sprites and their epic and heart-rending story if you're the one commanding them

explore, fight, laugh, love

sing in an opera

go river rafting

[lone crown]

In order to defeat mechanical enemies like the song golem, the floating steel soul laser mech, cogflies, and the witch hat-looking new enemy, you must send malware into them and then you’re forced into a sequence that replaces the dreamnail where you’re in a bullet hell, til’ you successfully hack them

[opaque sigil]

Isn’t this how one of the nier automata characters works

[lone crown]

Yep thats what i was referencing

[delicate knoll]

I think I will do a challenge run the first time I play silksong. I will turn off the music in game and never level up mask shards. If I replay it then I'll do it normally

Is this a good idea

[lone crown]

Im blocking you

No music is criminal

[delicate knoll]

but then I will be surprised when i play for the second time hahaha

[opaque sigil]

Depends on the game but for silksong yes it’s the gulags for you

[lone crown]

Thats a stupid idea and I will judge you

[delicate knoll]

Omg

[heavy magnet]

malware against a music-powered robot would be like a discordant melody that interferes with their own song programming
which would be neat

silk hack song

[fiery burrow]

Golb wannabe

[lone crown]

Just send it bass-boosted slop audio to make it kill itself

[fiery burrow]

or I guess its reverse golb

[heavy magnet]

will happen, happening, happened

[lone crown]

Or you know, send it dubstep and it should also die

[delicate knoll]

Just thought about it: aren't all challenge runs seen stupid ideas after all

[cold maple]

have you played the majority of final fantasies?

[lone crown]

But on your first blind fresh run which you cannot relive? That is stupid

You must be baiting there is no challenge to removing music

[delicate knoll]

just pain

[heavy magnet]

none of the more recent ones
ff4-10, and 12, and I didn't much care for 10 and 12

[cold maple]

13?

[delicate knoll]

enduring the urge to listen to the new silksong bangers is the real challenge

[cold maple]

i know lightning was mega popular

[heavy magnet]

watched someone play a bit, didn't interest me

[cold maple]

but the games themselves

ps3 final fantasy era was a rough time

[heavy magnet]

as soon as they started giving the characters realistic human proportions I was like 'yawn!'

[lone crown]

Im going to come to your house personally and blast that shit outside your door with a megaphone

[delicate knoll]

Nooooooooo

[heavy magnet]

now they all just look like generic beautiful people in anime clothes

[fiery burrow]

EDM is the death of music (I personally dislike it)

[heady iron]

graig I have a cool idea for a roc boss it's called definitive shimmering and it's this fluffy white goddess that fires bright lasers at you and

[cold maple]

i was a versus fanboy ngl

[heavy magnet]

never played it but i lost my mind over the concept

[delicate knoll]

sorry, but I'm not a big fan of house invasion

[lone crown]

Its so funny how the pope dies and then oblivion remastered is revealed

[heavy magnet]

i invented that game in my imagination first

[cold maple]

it never came out

[lone crown]

Oh no i wont enter i’d just blast the music outside

[heavy magnet]

oh wait, i'm thinking of dissidia, the fighting game

[cold maple]

it’s gonna be in kingdom hearts now

Versus 13

[delicate knoll]

what if I'm using something to cover my ears huh

[heavy magnet]

another series that i feel kinda went off the rails

[lone crown]

Im going to make sure its when you least expect it

[cold maple]

that’s because of Versus 13

same creator

[delicate knoll]

alright, fine. but now I wonder WHICH ost would you choose. the whole ost??? that's impossible

[heavy magnet]

yeah, belt guy

[cold maple]

you’ve never heard of Versus?

[delicate knoll]

I'm immune to lace's theme by the way

[lone crown]

Ass Jim’s theme

[heavy magnet]

didn't it wind up becoming 15?

[delicate knoll]

NOOOOOOOOO

[cold maple]

yes ☹️

[delicate knoll]

I'll leave this server

[lone crown]

[lament lotus]

wheres the rest of him

[delicate knoll]

why does this mushroom looks so ugly

[cold maple]

kingdom hearts went off the rails because of all the side games that exist because he wanted to do versus 13 but that kept getting delayed

so kh just kept ballooning

[heavy magnet]

i didn't stick with kh past the first one really

i watched a lore vid of the 3rd and was like 'what? how many darknesses?'
'that's too many'

[cold maple]

ur doing yourself a disservice there

[sinful flare]

is that grim from hollow knight

[cold maple]

kh2 is the best one, and kh3 full game is great

and 2 of the side games have the best stories, 358/2 days and Birth by Sleep

[heavy magnet]

is the 2nd one the one with Xemnas?

[delicate knoll]

I said no by the way because It's probably going to be the best one. probably

and again, I don't want to be spoiled.

[heavy magnet]

if it is i did play the 2nd
he had that black and white coat at the end

[cold maple]

yes

[cold maple]

that’s kh2, one of my favorite boss fights ever

where u fight with Riku

[heavy magnet]

ok yeah, all the black cloak stuff is the 2nd

[cold maple]

kh3 has the best boss fights and combat i’ve done in a game though

[heavy magnet]

i remember as a baby me and my friends watching those preview videos of everyone in the dark city over and over

trying to find the secrets

[lone crown]

Can nightreign please come faster

Please for the love of god

[tawdry valley]

Delayed by 2 hours, one hour for each of those messages

[lone crown]

Ever since ive played the beta ive been like a crack addict deprived of my sustenance

[cold maple]

hahahaha honestly he has admitted some things are done in advance and some are made up as he goes

[delicate knoll]

Can I make a question here? is making jokes considered toxic behavior? most of the things I say aren't very serious (though I still plan on the challenge run)

[tawdry valley]

Within the context of an existing convo, you’ll rarely be bashed for anything

[fiery burrow]

If your jokes suck yes

[delicate knoll]

I agreed with the sentiment

[lone crown]

Me and the boys

[delicate knoll]

I'm dead

[delicate knoll]

who is your main

[fiery burrow]

And by suck I mean being insensitive/rude/discriminatory

[tawdry valley]

Posting a Reddit screenshot or whatever, especially randomly, is considered rude

[lone crown]

I tried all the characters in the Training Grounds but for online i literally only played the Guardian

11/10

[delicate knoll]

I haven't played yet but I'm 100 going to main the Guardian

[lone crown]

Fair warning

[tawdry valley]

See, now I’m worried about trying out rogue core

[lone crown]

All the characters are straight bangers

[delicate knoll]

I see. I hope that link I posted earlier wasn't a problem

[lone crown]

Please try them all out

[tawdry valley]

What link

[delicate knoll]

baby hornet

It's a reddit post

[tawdry valley]

Hollow knight memes are very unwelcome believe it or not

[delicate knoll]

It's a fangame

[lone crown]

In fact the relics you get can even make certain characters have even cooler effects

LIKE THIS NEW FOLLOWUP + BUFF

[heavy magnet]

gotta take those to the meme channel

[tawdry valley]

Besides there being an existing channel, the well has run dry after 7 or so years

[heavy magnet]

baby hornet was delightful

[delicate knoll]

wait that's actually really nice

[opaque sigil]

Now this is some wirebug energy

[remote ibex]

Peakreign

[lone crown]

Also of course, your classes aren’t locked to a single weapon duh, you start with the new weapon your character has by default before finding other shit

In fact in the beta, every ER weapon returned excluding DLC

[tawdry valley]

Fromsoft games are rated in quality specifically by how fast you’re allowed to move and I have no intention of making correction to that formula to be more accurate

[lone crown]

Oh and guess what, Legendary weapons have unique buffs specifically for them now

Makes them even cooler

[delicate knoll]

I see. I wonder if the great katana will be back later on

[lone crown]

Bolt of Gransax is now buffed with red lightning after its ash of war

[delicate knoll]

Is the sword of night and flame good?

[tawdry valley]

I wonder if the full game will send us to other fromsoft game regions

[lone crown]

Eclipse Shotel has a chance to oneshot any enemy (didnt test on bosses)

[fiery burrow]

Now drop the fromsoft in this sentence

[tawdry valley]

Like at least some boss arenas could be like that

[heavy magnet]

maybe for bosses

[lone crown]

Wouldnt get my hopes up

Its dark souls bosses that are showing up in the elden ring world

[tawdry valley]

Yeah yeah, it looks a lot like a ER focused things

[lone crown]

Having the dark souls world also converge would be bizarre

But not impossible

[heavy magnet]

a wizard did it

[tawdry valley]

If we’re gonna go with “nothing is canon” then personally I don’t want to respect the canon

[lone crown]

I like that they redeemed centipede demon

[tawdry valley]

Fuck it. Get mickey mouse in there

[heavy magnet]

elden hearts

[lone crown]

I fought it and it just looks cool and is also much better to fight instead of the five inch real estate normally

Oh by the way? They just used his theme from DS1, they didnt even edit it or anything its straight up DS1 ost

And even cooler, it plays the exact same boss death sound from the dark souls games

[tawdry valley]

Ooh nice

[lone crown]

The iconic loud sound

[tawdry valley]

They should do that for death messages too

[lone crown]

The beta only gave us two Night 1 bosses, two Night 2 bosses, and 1 Nightlord

[tawdry valley]

Give you different sfx and such for the screens based on who got you.

[lone crown]

And they also gave us a fixed map

Which wont be the case in the final

[tawdry valley]

Is the whole game gonna be limgrave with shifting areas

Ah okay, makes sense

[lone crown]

Yes

[tawdry valley]

That’s fine depending on what the shifts are

[delicate knoll]

I think fromsoftware is refining their games more and more. I guess they will apply one thing or two from nightreign and the duskbloods to their next main title

[tawdry valley]

Nightreign is very much a side project

I think they’re toying with the idea of a different class system and I’m all for it

[lone crown]

We’re talking like volcanoes and shit

[tawdry valley]

Yeah sweet

[delicate knoll]

man fromsoftware is awesome. I know they don't take many risks but they actually do improve a lot each game.

[fiery burrow]

duskbloods will be so peam

[rapid abyss]

Morbin

[tawdry valley]

Yes and no. Sekiro, armored core, ER, all of them have Ds3 vibes but they all take massive leaps in the places they matter

[lone crown]

Oh in the beta, they only gave us like two of them but there were random chances of things happening during the gameplay, one of which was ants raining on you as a random chances event, and then another was Morgott jumping you literally wherever you are currently

[tawdry valley]

It’s probably why we may never get a DS4

[delicate knoll]

Photoemission Electron Microscopy?

I agreed.

[tawdry valley]

It really hasn’t been that long

[lone crown]

It didnt matter, Morgott would just keep teleporting to you if you tried running it was so funny/scary

I hope DS2 pursuer returns

[loud badge]

6 years

If it was a reveal sure
But it was gameplay

[fiery burrow]

I let out a great guffaw for this fresh and hip joke

[loud badge]

Elder scrolls wait is longer tho

[delicate knoll]

clearly it will be worth it. I find it funny how I moved at least 9 times since the reveal trailer though

[lone crown]

Miyazaki hates sequels i think
DS3 was very clearly the end of the dark souls universe, they wont go further beyond spinoffs like nightreign

[tawdry valley]

Yeah

[fiery burrow]

I'm glad me and miyazaki both hate DS's sequels.

[tawdry valley]

tbh I don’t think any of this would have been a problem if they weren’t so excited early into development

[loud badge]

Fromsoft falling off ngl

[lone crown]

DS3 base final boss was the perfect end to the trilogy, dlc final boss was the perfect end to its universe

[lone crown]

Lmao? They’re cooking harder than ever before

Smh…

Ban that user for bait

[loud badge]

Neightrein and duskbloods 0 interest if I'm being honest

[fiery burrow]

Gamers when studios take risks

[neon adder]

Hey guys, who’s your favorite Orange Lantern

[heavy magnet]

duskbloods looks really cool
and i will probably never play it

[heavy magnet]

I get it~!

[loud badge]

The dlc was worse than base game for me in elden ring

[delicate knoll]

I wonder if a dark souls spin off could work well. Imagine a open world more compact the size of Shadow of the erdtree in dark souls setting. I kinda miss that setting but it probably wont ever happen

[lone crown]

Fromsoft has to innovate again. Their traditional formula is becoming stale and Elden Ring was pushing it to the limits with boss complexity

[tawdry valley]

Option 1 versus option 1

Can’t forget option 1 either

[neon adder]

YEEEEEEEEAH

[heavy magnet]

the joke is there's only one, you see

[neon adder]

And?

[loud badge]

Shadowtree final boss pssed me off
Erdtree fragments were whatever

[lone crown]

Oh also, they finally fixed the netcode
Nightreign’s multiplayer was really really smooth, of course there were server issues during the beta’s first session but that’s completely a separate thing

[fiery burrow]

What if they make a monster hunter knockoff

[lone crown]

Im just upset it was fucking radahn again

[frozen frigate]

managed to fix my mob farm guys things are so great

[delicate knoll]

nice

[loud badge]

You need good combat to do that

[tawdry valley]

I think they know what they’re doing. They seem to notice what people like and don’t like

[fiery burrow]

True true

Armored Core combat with Monster Hunter gameplay loop

[lone crown]

Seamless co op mod for Elden Ring was so successful that even Miyazaki himself acknowledged it

[tawdry valley]

If ds4 comes out and is basically just high res DS3, then yeah I’m gonna become a fromslopper. For now they’re nailing it, and I was more worried about nightreign than necessary by the sounds of it

[delicate knoll]

But I think it works well. The narrative makes it seem like a big event and an overarching plan by miquella

What I do think this dlc lacks is cutscenes

[lone crown]

I hope to god ds4 doesnt happen, nightreign was the best possible outcome when it came to dark souls stuff resurfacing again imo

[tawdry valley]

I get the artistic point of “I want players to be able to like obstacles in the world, so multiplayer always allows for invasions”
But fuck invasions with co-op

[lone crown]

They had these planned but were cut

[delicate knoll]

possibly due to time constraints

[lone crown]

Rellana and Romina actually have unused dialogue

And they cut an entire miquella cutscene from the game with the veils gone

[delicate knoll]

I'll look up for this

[tawdry valley]

I wanna vibe with a buddy, potentially to make a dumb build synergy, not fend off meta slaves every 10-15 minutes

[cold maple]

the dlc sucked

[delicate knoll]

I prefer the dlc to be honest

It's more dense and the mood is darker

[cold maple]

it’s pretty looking

[cold maple]

dense? most of it is empty

[loud badge]

The dlc is not more dense💀

[lone crown]

One of my favorite feelings when playing a from game is sharing that multiplayer experience with a friend or two, like we’re going on a grand adventure together

Im sooooo excited for nightreign because no two runs will be the exact same, like micro-adventures

[loud badge]

Thats the reason I liked it less than base game

[delicate knoll]

true. I just like because it's smaller then

[lone crown]

The dlc was absolutely more dense than the base game what are you smoking

[trim estuary]

the gank fight was SO GOOD

[lone crown]

They cut down on filler space

Added an emphasis to verticality

[cold maple]

ur talking about shadow of the erdtree?

[delicate knoll]

same for the OST

[lone crown]

Compare dlc’s regions and dungeon spreads to fucking Liurnia

[loud badge]

Erdtree had a bunch of empty areas

[lone crown]

Yes

[fiery burrow]

true old baiter

[loud badge]

Side dungeons the only thing that got better

[cold maple]

filler space is how i defined the dlc

[loud badge]

Bosses you can debate

[lone crown]

Actually on this front I do agree regarding cerulean coast and the hinterlands

[cold maple]

i think messmer and midra were peak

[delicate knoll]

alright man. It looked dense for me but have in mind I'm a shadow of the colossus fan (lmao)

[trim estuary]

they were so pretty though

[lone crown]

Yeah

But they didn’t add the Twinbird so its a shitty DLC regardless

[loud badge]

Tip 3 for me along with bayle

[cold maple]

baffled that i just heard the dlc was a positive in filler space category

[loud badge]

I didnt like midra's area much ngl

[cold maple]

it is so empty

[lone crown]

Oh wait i completely forgot

[loud badge]

Should've used up the time to make his dungeon bigger

[lone crown]

Midra’s area was also empty

His manse is an awesome area though

[cold maple]

every region was basically empty

[loud badge]

Like no erdtree is not more dense

[fossil pawn]

erdtree is good

[delicate knoll]

erdtree good

[lone crown]

Hm maybe its just recency bias for me

[fossil pawn]

ban me if you want, im willing to be a martyr

[loud badge]

If not for the erdtree shards it'd feel more empty

[trim estuary]

no its definitely more dense

[cold maple]

it’s definitely not more dense, just more vertical so it seems so

[loud badge]

So much crafting material and upgrade stone 4s

[cold maple]

it is so empty and full of nonsense shit to find

[loud badge]

Like why tf are you giving us those low lvl upgrade stones

[cold maple]

how many cookbooks

[lone crown]

Tbf the giant pots were incredible

[cold maple]

hahahaha right

[loud badge]

Speaking of pots
I hated those fire dudes

Horrible enemy

[delicate knoll]

I honestly don't even bother exploring to find stone shards. I just look up the important items

[lone crown]

Okay yeah furnace golems suck

Especially the cerulean coast one

[loud badge]

A good cheese is the frost move

It melts them

[cold maple]

pretty looking, story was pretty ass

a lot of bosses doubled down on boss flaws

[loud badge]

For the ones you couldn't pot

[cold maple]

very empty

[lone crown]

I was a big lore theorizer and i was hit with whiplash when i found out with npcs that radahn was part of miquella’s plot

And i was so disappointed

[lament lotus]

"well done, snake"

[cold maple]

i’d say it’s their worst dlc personally

[lone crown]

Like i thought radahn was only required for the dlc so you can free the stars and whatnot, maybe make the eclipse happen

[loud badge]

Death poker melts the dlc fire giants

[lone crown]

Death’s poker is one of my favorite weapons in Elden Ring period

I love the deathbird culture

[delicate knoll]

tbh the trailer in this sense looked better than the actual dlc. I wonder most of the npcs you fight are in jails instead of being in the open world

[lone crown]

Plus its just broken

[cold maple]

it went through rewrites, something happened behind the scenes

who knows what happened

[loud badge]

Death poker is a fun time in coop

Triple death poker for bayle 😂 😂

[cold maple]

the miquella radahn shit was abysmal

[loud badge]

But yeah
The dlc missed on too many things for me
Idk how it was rated the same as base game

Prob cause hype

[cold maple]

and after fighting that idiot i got that stupid cutscene

i give elden base an 8 i give dlc a 5-6

[delicate knoll]

what we should look for is the budget and time they had

[lament lotus]

base elden is peak

[loud badge]

Elden ring their best selling game ever

Made like 1bill in revenue

[lone crown]

Ehhh

[lament lotus]

why was elden ring higher revenue than ds3

[lament lotus]

top 5 games but its just me

[cold maple]

wouldn’t go that far

[delicate knoll]

that's why I don't completely disagree on the complaints

[lone crown]

Well i mean comparing to the dlc

[cold maple]

personally

[loud badge]

Base elden ring was also nice but the endgame boss rush soured me a bit ngl

[lone crown]

I prefer SOTE map structure

[cold maple]

farum azula was my favorite place though

[lone crown]

At least they’re mostly good bosses

[cold maple]

and maliketh is my favorite base boss

[loud badge]

True

[lament lotus]

do you mean the
|| morgott>firegiant>maliketh>godfrey>elden beast|| type ordeal?

[delicate knoll]

same

[lone crown]

Maliketh is phenomenal, Godfrey/Hoarah is phenomenal, Radagon is phenomenal

[cold maple]

i hope that doesn’t include the fatty and twink

[lament lotus]

radahon

[loud badge]

Post Morg I stopped having as much fun

[lament lotus]

dude SOTE radahn is probably my favouriote boss behind radagon (phase 2 excluded)

[cold maple]

psychopath

[loud badge]

Either way I decided to stop giving games number ratings

[lament lotus]

it got nerfed

i played it after it got nerfed

[lone crown]

Placidusax is pretty mid cause its like you’re attacking a tank with different parts of it capable of hitting you, idk its not even anywhere near comparable to Bayle in terms of fun imo

[loud badge]

Good

[delicate knoll]

the atmosphere is unmatched. great art directing.

[trim estuary]

i genuinely loved the frame drop attack it was really funny and made me very scared

[lament lotus]

bayle is PEAK

[loud badge]

Pre nerf he had a frame trap for some reason

[cold maple]

it’s still the hardest after nerf

but pre nerf was hell

[delicate knoll]

now ur just joking hehehe

[lament lotus]

only good giant boss

[cold maple]

and i regretted my 40 dollars

[loud badge]

A.k.a move that you couldn't dodge

[lone crown]

You can argue what you will, but these fights in base game are NON-DEBATABLY goated. NON-NEGOTIABLE peak

[loud badge]

Without light dodge

[cold maple]

mohg is unbalanced

[lament lotus]

do you mean the shooting star meterow

[lone crown]

No the fuck he isnt

[trim estuary]

uhh no the giant laser

[cold maple]

yes he is

[lone crown]

Mohg is perfectly playable

[cold maple]

i didn’t say he wasn’t playable

[lament lotus]

the nuke?

[lone crown]

then wdym “unbalanced”

[delicate knoll]

morgott was epic. if think it would have been better if it didn't had that previous mini encounter though

[lament lotus]

or the one where he repeats his last attack a bunch of times

[delicate knoll]

made it less impactful

[trim estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/radahn-consort-of-miquella-promised-gif-1893093545603856836

[lament lotus]

i spent like 8 hours on morgott 10/10 peak

[lament lotus]

OH this thing 😭 i love that attack so much

[cold maple]

u can do his first phase hitless underleveled then get destroyed by his blood fire

[lament lotus]

it definitely adds to the boss fight

[cold maple]

just from it being on the ground

it’s so drastic

once his blood comes out

[lone crown]

You can also do his second phase hitless underleveled. His flames on the ground are no issue, especially when up-close

He can only have two flame trails active at the same time

And they serve no threat at melee range

[cold maple]

i know you can

[delicate knoll]

Also, having summons or coop is not a problem unless you want to remember all the attack patterns for yourself

[lone crown]

Idk prolly just bias cause i have fought mohg over 300+ times and solo’d him for people

He’s one of my favorites

[cold maple]

but it ramps up to an insane degree just from his blood being around

i think it’s bias but he’s still fun

[lament lotus]

mohg is not allat but killing him for people is fun

[cold maple]

hit box is a little wonky

i have a pic of me on the other side of his body and i get blown from his little explosive hand

[viscid wind]

i thought the movie was called elder ring not lord of the rings wtf

[cold maple]

and his bloodflame build up is so fast

and personally i think the health regen gimmick was stupid

but it’s cool looking

which is a theme for elden bosses

[loud badge]

I prepared for the dlc by just doing coop a bunch for all the harder bosses

Malekith with x3 the health solo is good practice

Then dlc kicked me anyways

[cold maple]

i also don’t think bayle was a good fight mechanically

[lament lotus]

prepared?

[cold maple]

but also cool looking

[formal marsh]

yep not going there again

[loud badge]

Bayle and the lion had horrible cameras

💀

[cold maple]

terrible

horrendous

[loud badge]

The dlc cameras pissed me off soo much

[cold maple]

idk how anyone enjoys that

i’m fighting the camera more than them

[loud badge]

How did they make it worse

[lament lotus]

lmao i saw this 😭

insane work tbh

[clever sable]

people love bayle but i find him pretty annoying, he has a lot of attacks that it's not safe to be in front of (unlike say midir) but you can't lock on to the legs

[formal marsh]

the one thing iknow about bale is the guy screaming at him

[cold maple]

bayle is cinematic but ass

[loud badge]

Bayle i liked cause of the npc dude who fought with us

[lone crown]

I love him always

[loud badge]

But that's camera🤢

[lone crown]

I like Bayle a ton, best dragon

[loud badge]

Oh yeah
I was farming mohg cause of the dlc😂

[spare fractal]

Next time Leth appears we need to ask him the easter question again. The Hollow Knight Wiki will NEVER be complete without this information!

[clever sable]

maybe hot take but that's a very low bar, dragons have a very high cool factor but are a pain in the ass to actually fight

[formal marsh]

what if easter is long past by then
will he even remember which chocolate he got

[delicate knoll]

Placidussax is also great

[cold maple]

he’s cool but not mechanically good

[clever sable]

every time i see a dragon in a randomiser i groan

[lone crown]

I had a fight with him that lasted 11 minutes

[lone crown]

That is true

[cold maple]

i think placi is better

[clever sable]

one time i got fortissax in rellana's arena with the spritsprings randomised so he was mandatory for dlc progress

[viscid wind]

Next easter

[heady iron]

decaying ekyzykes is objectively the best dragon

[clever sable]

that was rough

[loud badge]

The lion was horrible to fight tho
Esp in coop

[cold maple]

rot breath dragon?

[lone crown]

https://youtu.be/wowXY98YOGM?si=eLtQG5Set_tb5vGC

[cold maple]

the lion beast is god awful

[lone crown]

My heart pounded and I almost choked at the end

[trim estuary]

why you hatin on dancing lion

[spare fractal]

I remember mine! It was two large chocolate eggs followed a bunch of smaller chocolate eggs!

That same day I also had to go to the bathroom because so much chocolate made my tummy hurt

[cold maple]

and they made it even worse with another death blight and basilisk summoner version

[loud badge]

Horrible camera
Horrible hitboxes
Frame drop

[formal marsh]

mm chmocolate

[cold maple]

i just laughed at the absurdity

[clever sable]

if deathblight dancer lion has not haters then i am dead

[lone crown]

Deathblight lion is the worst thing fromsoft ever cooked

[trim estuary]

ok fair point on the camera but otherwise i disagree

[lone crown]

I cant even defend that shit

[cold maple]

they’re trying too hard

[lone crown]

Thats just pure evil

[cold maple]

to surpass themselves

[loud badge]

The dlc had multiple frame drop moments

[clever sable]

the basilisk spawning is weird too

[delicate knoll]

I don't know the metrics to know which boss is good or not. I just be overleveled for all of them to enjoy the atmosphere. I can't even say anything in this conversation lmao

[loud badge]

Bayle and lion were one

[clever sable]

seems like sometimes you kill them then new ones pop out of the ground

[spare fractal]

My stomach loves chocolate, but chocolate does not love my stomach back 😔

[cold maple]

terrible

[lone crown]

Which is why they should move away from the traditional dark souls style imo, Fromsoft needs to innovate again and they know this

Elden ring and SOTE was as far as you could push the format

[cold maple]

worst fight i’ve ever done i think

[clever sable]

using task manager to disable core 0 affinity helps a TON with stutters in ER

unfortunately can't do it playing online because of anticheatt

[lone crown]

Nightreign is a massive step in the right direction i loved it

[cold maple]

i agree, sekiro is by far their best game mechanically

i want to see more from there

[clever sable]

i bounced off sekrio because there's so few options

[lone crown]

Take more steps fromsoft please

[clever sable]

extremely linear and no build variety

[loud badge]

Another horrible enemy💀

[trim estuary]

i couldnt find out where to go

[loud badge]

Enemy with 1000 attacks and infinite hyper armor

[clever sable]

ER is the least frustrating fromsoft game because it's hard to get truly stuck

[cold maple]

oh god

[lone crown]

Nightreign players having the most fun of their life until you see these mfs

[clever sable]

can always switch weapon or just go somewhere else

[loud badge]

Idk why they dlc had so much hyperarmor merchants

[cold maple]

because they keep trying to surpass themselves

i think the hard reputation has had a negative effect on both the fans and developers

[delicate knoll]

so you guys think the dlc was a time wasting product for you then? IDK about me. but sure there are games that were more fulfilling

[loud badge]

You got common enemies with more hyper armor than bosses

😂

[lone crown]

I loved the dlc personally but im open to criticisms about it

It could have been more 100%

[clever sable]

i think hyperarmour enemies is an interesting change

[tawdry valley]

If I play nightreign anytime around release then it’s my mission to make them give the bosses more armor

[clever sable]

if you have a big ass weapon you could stunlock every single non-boss enemy pretty much

[lone crown]

god nightreign is gonna be a blast

[tawdry valley]

I WILL stun you

[clever sable]

making those lions immune means you can't rely on that

[cold maple]

i regret playing it

[tawdry valley]

Yeah but then magic casters don’t basically never have to move into range

[loud badge]

Making them immune is just extreme and annoying

[cold maple]

but i’m glad others enjoyed it

[loud badge]

Esp when they are so aggressive and do massive damage

[lone crown]

I cant wait for me and the boys in VC going “holy shit IS THAT THE BLUE SMELTER DEMON FROM DARK SOULS TWO??????”

[clever sable]

messmer and rellana are top tier bosses

[cold maple]

it just sullied the whole game in general and doubled down with my elden base gripes

[tawdry valley]

It’s less about making things balanced (which literally always coalesces into a boss being very fast and a player using fast hitting weapons) and more about making certain playstyles rewarding for different reasons

[loud badge]

Messmer yes

[lone crown]

Messmer is god tier

They cooked so hard

[cold maple]

rellana was harder than malenia for a hot second in the beginning

but she’s fun

insane hyper armor though

[loud badge]

Rellana had me heated the first couple fights ngl

[cold maple]

just a combo spammer

[lone crown]

Oh did I tell you

The night bosses gain new attacks

[cold maple]

another sekiro ass boss

[loud badge]

Way too fast for the amount of hyper armor on her

[tawdry valley]

Sick

[clever sable]

i feel like her base moveset is harder to avoid than malenia's, but she doesn't have individual moves like waterfowl or attack of the clones that have a high risk of instantly wiping you out

[lone crown]

Morgott has like three new attacks and they’re insane

[clever sable]

plus no healing

[lone crown]

Draconic Tree Sentinel has a new attack

The returning dark souls bosses have new tricks

[loud badge]

Waterfowl definitely carries malenia

[tawdry valley]

@clever sable @cold maple okay not both of you say what build you each used to fight the boss you liked

[cold maple]

that’s true, malenia waterfowl is still the most toxic move now that radahn’s 3 piece got nerfed

[clever sable]

i mean i've finished the dlc unmodded like 3-4 times? milady, hookclaws, ordovis greatsword, morgott sword and elenora poleblade, star fists/spiked caestus

[loud badge]

Radahn 3 piece move just kinda cemented to me that they just needa chill

[lone crown]

There’s a consistent way to dodge waterfowl no matter how close you are when she starts the animation, however the way to find the solution is so unintuitive and silly that it’s ridiculous

[tawdry valley]

It’s so funny watching people do decent in the fight until she pulls out waterfowl and bricks people’s brain circuitry every time

[lone crown]

Like its a bad attack for that reason

[clever sable]

and i've done rellana tons of times in randomisers with all sorts of crazy weapons

[tawdry valley]

Actually an insane move

[clever sable]

i use the sekiro tear for waterfowl

deflect the first one then the next two are easy

honestly attack of the clones is more deadly to me

[lone crown]

I have the ultimate bragging right of beating pre-nerf radahn at level 1 without blessings

[tawdry valley]

Maybe not bad but it felt out of pocket

[cold maple]

waterfowl is definitely bad

[lone crown]

No i still think its bad even after mastering it

[cold maple]

especially because it is hyper armored and often a counter

[loud badge]

Really hoping we don't see any harder bosses than radahn ngl

[clever sable]

i think it's a really interesting dynamic, phase 1 malenia is super passive and has no poise so you're generally incentivised to just keep smacking to stunlock her

[lone crown]

Not very good design creating the deadliest attack with no intuitive solution

[clever sable]

if no waterfowl then that would crush her instantly

[tawdry valley]

That’s the issue imo. That waterfowl is a jail free card

[clever sable]

waterfowl means if you constantly bash her and get in a bad position with no stamina she can kill you instantly so you need to be more careful

[loud badge]

Her having waterfowl basically forces some people to play passively

[cold maple]

my builds are pretty simple, for all those games i swing a dex sword and dodge

[lone crown]

They shouldve given her the cut content waterfowl where she actually dances like a waterfowl

[tawdry valley]

Experienced players fight her, half hp her, then she smothers them

[cold maple]

or dual wield

[clever sable]

sure in the sense that r1 spam hard counters the rest of her phase 1 moveset and waterfowl means you need to press some other buttons on your controller

[cold maple]

i liked dual wielding st trina swords even though sleep is ass

[lone crown]

Fun fact, malenia literally has her own scaling tier (before the DLC it was the highest tier)

They gave her her own scaling

Thats funny

[tawdry valley]

I think a boss should be interesting even if you nerf or remove a single move

[lone crown]

Typically scaling is formatted by area/region

[tawdry valley]

She def does stagger a bit weird though

[loud badge]

??,?,??

[cold maple]

the initial part is the worst

[clever sable]

this is absolutely fair it is bs that if you reduce her stagger bar to zero when she's doing a hyperarmour move, then you don't get the stance break but the bar still resets

[lone crown]

I love PCR’s attacks ngl

[cold maple]

if ur gonna give her something that broken, give a longer loading time for it

[lone crown]

Conceptually the afterimages were peak and even dodging them is peak

[cold maple]

malenia is a broken boss

[lone crown]

The cross slash could go to hell

So glad that got nerfed

[cold maple]

and pcr was also toxic

the cross slash was pure rng

[tawdry valley]

Def a more insulting thing about that boss than waterfowl of you ask me

[lone crown]

As soon as I learned how to dodge cross slash consistently they nerfed it lmao

[cold maple]

it was better in the second phase because the lights knocked u out of the stunlock

[lone crown]

And the way to dodge it consistently ruined the quality of the rest of the fight

[tawdry valley]

Waterfowl is consistent it’s just a asshole move to try and learn

[loud badge]

Cross slash was not a good move

Even challenge runners hated it

[lone crown]

Cause you just had to run left the whole time all the time

[cold maple]

cross slash is abysmal, and waterfowl is abysmal

[lone crown]

Oh yeah everyone can agree on that

[chilly crane]

Grapes cheese and pretzel

[loud badge]

Only saving grace of cross slash is it did a billion times less than melenia

[lone crown]

But more frequently

[cold maple]

if u have to tweak ur character to account for boss bs then it’s bs

[lone crown]

In fact once i saw PCR do cross slash three times in a row

[loud badge]

But getting hit regardless messes up rhythm yeah

[cold maple]

that cross slash ended my life everytime

[clever sable]

i think old cross slash forced you to play the rest of the fight in a less interesting way by hugging the left. i maintain that waterfowl forces you to play in a more interesting way by not swinging wildly to stunlock until you're out of stamina then repeat

[cold maple]

the 2nd and 3rd hit

[loud badge]

I was just praying he didn't do cross slash

I dont think he does it 2nd phase

[lone crown]

Literally this, it forced you to account for it by ruining the rest of the fight which made it fundamentally bad

[cold maple]

waterfowl is bad because it messes up ur play

if u ask me

[clever sable]

he definitely does, but pre nerf it didn't stunlock as bad because the light aftereffect knocks you out of the way of the second hit

[cold maple]

there’s no flow when that move holds the fight hostage

[loud badge]

I'll say this
Dlc got me to go back to playing dex more which is a positive

Base game was all str faith

Once I hit midgame

[clever sable]

i found bloodflame blade + hookclaws + lord of blood talisman one of the easiest runs i ever did

[lone crown]

Imagine if we had something simple and cool like this instead

https://youtu.be/rhzKkJdn9Rw?si=mbXCAa1JItSoYHe1

[loud badge]

Dlc was so funny ngl

[cold maple]

and i think malenia’s moveset besides that move is amazing

she has some broken mechanics but she’s a beautiful boss and concept

[loud badge]

They nerfed blasphemous blade knock back so we couldn't cheese that first npc boss

Then gave a talisman that gives it an extra 20%

Dmg

[cold maple]

aesthetic of her and the arena and the lore was gorgeous

but holy shit waterfowl

[lone crown]

Fucking malenia phase 2 music is ear candy

The tragic violin

[clever sable]

i don't think it's quite 20% but still insane to add a talisman directly boosting the best weapon

[lone crown]

And the choir

[loud badge]

I forgot I had blasphemous blade cause I was testing the dlc weapons

Then I put it on when I was struggling on some annoying enemies

Hyper armor merchants

[fiery tartan]

We talking about Elden ring . Hell yeah

[cold maple]

so much better

actually fits the mechanics of the game

that sekiro lady tomoe reused asset ass move

[loud badge]

Feel bad for Expedition 33 ngl
Oblivion shadow dropping 2 days before it's release

[fiery tartan]

I had the most wholesome moment in Elden ring when I fought malenia I called two other cooperaters and when we beat her . They cheered me up

[lone crown]

Fromsoft should lean more into the actual fun their games could be and not always just difficulty difficulty even as a challenge runner, it makes me sad seeing a lot of people complain about things that are easily fixable in design

[loud badge]

The dlc tested my patience as far as enemy difficulty goes

[fiery tartan]

I felt the only thing bad about malenia waterfowl was that the waterfowl should have had a longer charge up to run away

[loud badge]

And the erd tree fragments didn't help

[cold maple]

that’s what i’m saying

[clever sable]

how else would you provide progression when you enter at endgame level?

[cold maple]

messmer and midra were not the hardest but they were so fun

[fiery tartan]

Slave knight Gael . He’s not a hard boss but he is fun and fair

[cold maple]

it’s supposed to be enjoyable

enough of this hard for the sake of hard

[loud badge]

They ended up buffing them anyways so ig they

[lone crown]

Fun fact, regardless of distance you can run away from it as soon as you see it start

However

The way to actually fully avoid it is by jumping as soon as she starts swinging. For SOME REASON this helps you dodge the first flurry fully its so unintuitive and hilarious

[loud badge]

Knew it was a soso answer

[cold maple]

when i beat malenia and radahn i was just glad it was over and let out a sigh

[clever sable]

changing the scaling curve doesn't mean adding scaling was a bad idea

[fiery tartan]

Yeah but am I gonna have the stamina for that ?

[cold maple]

they can’t keep doing that

[lone crown]

Uhhh as long as you dont burn it all on attacks yeah

[fiery tartan]

That’s a bad emotion when you beat one

[clever sable]

it would be boring as fuck to have a dlc the size of a large game where you don't increase in power the whole tim

[fiery tartan]

Owl father is one of my favourite boss

[cold maple]

and if u point out any boss flaws then the toxic fanbase says the infamous words

[clever sable]

you are expected to enter with a max level weapon and with all your stats more or less at the soft caps

[lone crown]

Literally

[loud badge]

Ig thats true

[cold maple]

owl father is goated

[loud badge]

Still didn't like them

[cold maple]

inner father

[loud badge]

Didn't hate them

[clever sable]

so what would be a better solution?

[fiery tartan]

One time on a fromsoft Reddit post . I was talking about tribalism in fromsoft community but when I said Souls games are good but deeply flawed . They attacked me for that sentence

[cold maple]

design bosses to be fun and challenging and fair

[loud badge]

Have less shards ig

[clever sable]

not talking to you

[lone crown]

To who?

[loud badge]

Didn't need a whole 50

[fiery tartan]

I don’t know why but for me sekiro was easier than the other souls game

[clever sable]

i think having some extras would be good, like with golden seeds

[cold maple]

personally, as someone whose favorite game ever is bloodborne, dark souls trilogy in top 5, and sekiro in top 10

[clever sable]

some are in very random locations and it is annoying trying to find them all first time, absolutely agree with that

[cold maple]

fromsoft has the worst fanbase in gaming

[loud badge]

Or they could've just not include it at all since the other dlcs don't have them

[clever sable]

the other dlcs are way shorter

[cold maple]

it is so awful

[lone crown]

Definitely somewhere in the top 5 worst

[fiery tartan]

Bro I’m already playing blood borne it’s goated

[loud badge]

Thats ill agree
Could've just had them drop from bosses

[clever sable]

like 10 times shorter

[fiery burrow]

Fromsoft - 0
Wilds - 1

[fiery tartan]

Ikr

[clever sable]

then you need to fight bosses to get stronger, so if you are stuck on a boss you can't get stronger until killing it

[loud badge]

My favorite soulslike isn't even a fromsoft game ngl

[fiery burrow]

DS is the evil child of Zelda and MH

[fiery tartan]

Lies of p

[loud badge]

Nioh 2

[lone crown]

I love their games for reasons that aren’t about the difficulty i just genuinely love the worlds they craft

[clever sable]

having them throughout the world both incentivises exploring to see the world, and means you can power up to get through challenging bosses

[fiery tartan]

Oh

[rapid abyss]

Doncic is so good man

[cold maple]

that’s how sekiro was

[loud badge]

Idk man
Base game already had me exploring

[loud badge]

Ig thats true

[cold maple]

if ur talking about scadutree fragments that was awful

[opaque sigil]

copied nausicaa 🥱

[clever sable]

yes and many people bounced off sekiro in no small part because there is no way to increase power if you're stuck on a boss

[fiery tartan]

I like everything about ds3 except that the atmosphere is gray and dead . I know that’s supposed to be but still

[lament lotus]

dude WHAT is that character

[lone crown]

Who?

[smoky nebula]

Fool would you be a dragon communion warrior

[clever sable]

in base game you can find smithing stones to upgrade your weapon. in dlc you come in with a max weapon

[lone crown]

No i’d be a deathbird

[fiery burrow]

It all loops back to nausicaa or laputa

[cold maple]

same, i love the lore and art direction and music of these games

[viscid wind]

fromsoft

[clever sable]

exploring makes you stronger in base game through conventional weapon upgrades, character levels etc

[cold maple]

they need to remember those things stand the test of time rather than hard bosses

[fiery tartan]

Scadutree fragments should be placed in a place like scadutree minor tree so you can actually locate it

[clever sable]

dlc had to find a different way as you come in with those things all maxed

[viscid wind]

More like . Slopsoft

[lone crown]

Oh yeah prolly
Miyazaki takes inspiration from a lot of stuff like that

[fiery burrow]

ash lake is explicitly inspired by that yeah

[lone crown]

You couldve said fromslop

[clever sable]

this i agree with, some of them are super random like the one in the coffin in the recluse river downstream

[loud badge]

Like scadtree fragments incentives exploring the world but like

Doesn't that go for other games too???

[clever sable]

no, because other games you don't start maxed out

[loud badge]

With upgrade stuff spread out

[clever sable]

in base game you can explore to find upgrade materials etc

[smoky nebula]

Deathbird or death rite bird

[frozen frigate]

is this ds1 ash lake

[loud badge]

Dlc you don't start maxed out

[viscid wind]

slopslop

[cold maple]

Bloodborne is not slop

[clever sable]

in dlc you are expected to already have maxed weapon

[fiery tartan]

I don’t like the quest system in Elden ring . Because how am I supposed to figure most of them without a tutorial

[fiery tartan]

Who said it’s slop

[clever sable]

so how to get more damage if your stats are softcapped and your weapon can't be upgraded further

[lone crown]

I love looking at dark souls concept art

[cold maple]

fair complaint and i think it’s because it’s their first open world

[viscid wind]

It's sony, no?

[loud badge]

The fragments basically ensure that you are basically lvl 1 again

[smoky nebula]

Hydra

[cold maple]

it’s fromsoft but a sony owned ip

[fiery tartan]

Yeah but they are not the ones that developed it

[opaque sigil]

no, ash lake is the petrified forest

[clever sable]

i mean yeah? for the game-sized expansion, they added a new progression system so that you start weak and get stronger throughout

[frozen frigate]

what is petrified forest

[clever sable]

be a pretty boring game if there was no progression

[cold maple]

gorgeous, fromsoft always hits with their art and music

[opaque sigil]

this

[frozen frigate]

is this ds1 ash lake

[lone crown]

It always paints a different picture compared to their technological limitations

[opaque sigil]

I'm getting a strange sense of deja vu

[loud badge]

I guess

[frozen frigate]

you're insane bammo

[lone crown]

Like the hydra realistically sucks mechanicslly but conceptually awesome

[fiery tartan]

I love dark souls 3 but one thing I don’t like is it’s grey ass atmosphere

[loud badge]

Im soso on that

[lone crown]

I prefer convergence mod over base DS3

Which is crazy cause i like never prefer a mod

[fiery tartan]

I play on console

[cold maple]

it’s definitely more bleak but i think it’s to emphasize how undead the world is

[lone crown]

Just in terms of area visuals and level design

[loud badge]

Just going through the areas feels like progress enough to me

[cold maple]

irithyll was gorgeous though

[clever sable]

basically there are three options i can see:

• don't have any character progression in dlc beyond a few extra levels beyond softcaps (this is basically what the short dark souls ones do)
• uncap the original progression (higher softcaps, higher max weapon levels)
• add a new progression system

[fiery tartan]

Yeah I understand but you can’t make me like it

[clever sable]

certainly i'm not going to say there aren't improvements that could have been made to the scadutree system

[viscid wind]

Can't fromsoft just make bloodborn again and name it something like "not bloodborn"

[fiery tartan]

True tho . That’s the only place where I was aw struck

[trim estuary]

the duskbloods

[viscid wind]

and not whatever the fuck that switch 2 pvp exclusive thing is

[clever sable]

but people seem to hate the idea of additional priogression systems at all

[loud badge]

Just didn't vibe with it much

It also makes coop suuuuuuck

[lone crown]

Lowkey they shouldve made the dlc accessible a lot later so balancing it wouldve been easier, having it require radahn and mohg was okay but they should prolly throw in an extra requirement like require that you defeat maliketh to open the rune of death or something

[clever sable]

this is true but again implementation detail. i think it's silly that you're brought down to the host's level

[fiery tartan]

Another complain I have is that ds3 anor londo is too small and they have lengthen it and added more references instead of just a way to fight a boss

[loud badge]

Got summoned at PCR on erdtree lvl 5💔💔

[cold maple]

that thing is weird, sony points at miya and miya points at sony

for why it’s untouched

[viscid wind]

Porth California Republic

[clever sable]

while you can technically access it early (pre-leyndell even), the requirement to kill mohg means most inexperienced players won't be able to practially do so until late game

[fiery tartan]

Sony gets radiation poisoning from money

[clever sable]

assuming they even figure out varre quest, otherwise it's locked behind snowfield

[lone crown]

At least Duskbloods is 100% owned by FromSoft this time so after the exclusivity deal ends, from should likely just port it

[clever sable]

if the deal ends

[fiery tartan]

Do they actually

[loud badge]

Duskbloods is a skip ngl

[lone crown]

Yes they own the whole thing

Not like bloodborne

They’re being smart with it this time

[fiery tartan]

Then why is fromsoft choosing to have it on one single device for now

[loud badge]

?

Nintendo prob payed them?

[lone crown]

Because nintendo has a deal with them, a temporary one like all exclusivity licenses are

They paid fromsoft or something

[fiery tartan]

Ok

[lone crown]

To make an exclusive game for their console to rake sales for the consile

[cold maple]

my friend had this crazy concept for a bloodborne sequel

[lone crown]

Biggest selling point of a console are its exclusive games

And they know fromsoft is a big hitter

[fiery tartan]

Spit it

[young saffron]

so if I just wait I might get bloodborne2 on pc?

[lone crown]

Yes

[fiery tartan]

I don’t think Miyazaki likes doing sequel as in 2

[heady iron]

ryujinx:

[cold maple]

basically mix red dead and bloodborne

[fiery tartan]

Open world bloodborne

[lone crown]

Miyazaki doesnt do sequels, ds2 and ds3 were special weird cases where shenanigans happened

And armored core doesnt count as each entry mostly has its own thing going on

[young saffron]

also kinda random but does anyone else feel like the new upcoming indies / metroids (constance, the owl game, rocs, even crowsworn) have a very weird flat aspect to it? like the artstyle I mean. I dont know why but when I look at hollow knight I dont rly notice the 2d art style, maybe im just biased?

[lone crown]

Ds2 wasnt even directed by him

[cold maple]

more like the aesthetic and region, same gun parry mechanics, but wild west region and aesthetic

[young saffron]

kinda nitpicking given how all 4 of these games technically have good design

[lone crown]

DS2 redemption arc in Nightreign

[cold maple]

some ancient cult worshipping whatever the fuck underground

[fiery tartan]

Bloodborne inspired me a story which may or may not be a copy

[heady iron]

Bilebirth

[loud badge]

Bloodborne was alright

[cold maple]

i don’t want a direct sequel since yharnam is finished but there is absolutely more they can do with lovecraftian shit in that world

[loud badge]

It was Nice

[cold maple]

just different places and times

[lone crown]

Begging from to make an eldritch aquatic horror game

Fishing hamlet was my favorite zone in bloodborne

The land shark is my personal scariest enemy in the game

[heady iron]

Idk why people call moon presence cosmic horror

[opaque sigil]

dishonored already exists 🥱

[heady iron]

That shit aint scary at all

[fiery tartan]

Guys is the one reborn a middle game boss or late game

[lone crown]

One reborn is like uhhh

Id consider it the first late game boss

Considering the only bosses it guards is micolash and wet nurse

And then finale

[fiery tartan]

Because I was really expecting bloodborne to be short

[lone crown]

Bloodborne is pretty short yeah

[loud badge]

Personally in my opinion

[fiery tartan]

I’m tryna figure how a 3d person would perceive a 4d god and how he can kill it

[lone crown]

Chalice dungeons though…

[loud badge]

Nothing beats bioshock 1 in terms of atmosphere

[tawdry valley]

Picture how a 2d person could picture a 3D person

[lone crown]

I went through the painstaking torture of enduring Bloodborne at level 4 and including chalice dungeons

I have some kind of mental issue for that or something

[fiery tartan]

I’m mean I know how it’s can get bigger and shrink then disappear or distorted shapes but how do I visualise that

[tawdry valley]

The solution is the 2d person must make a 1-2d slice big enough and fast enough to a 2d slice of you as it passes - that it would create a 3D wound that killed you

[cold maple]

fishing hamlet is super cool and directly inspired by one of his actual stories

there is so much potential in that world

[fiery tartan]

I’m making my character this normal human that eventually become a god killer that can perceive 4d as a 3d person somehow

[rapid abyss]

Ddx i have a query

[tawdry valley]

Shoot

[rapid abyss]

Does there exist a non christmas version of your pfp

[cold maple]

lovecraft’s cosmic horror is less about being scary and more about coming face to face with the sheer insignificance of your existence when faced with beings of that caliber

[tawdry valley]

This one? No. Came with the hat

[rapid abyss]

Or was this made originally with the

[cold maple]

it’s supposed to be mind breaking

[rapid abyss]

Mm gotcha

[fiery tartan]

I find it blissful

[tawdry valley]

What’s the scheme

[fiery tartan]

I’m gonna play bloodborne . Bye everyone

[viscid wind]

my pfp is an edit(h)

[tawdry valley]

https://www.deviantart.com/gargooletz/art/Santa-Grievous-107288465

[tawdry valley]

Faker

[cold maple]

cursed amygdala and watchdog at level 4?

[lone crown]

Yes

[cold maple]

ur a god

[lone crown]

They fucking sucked

The watchdog winning attempt took like 13 minutes

[cold maple]

idk why u did that to yourself

hahahaha

[lone crown]

A thing on my bucket list before silksong

[tawdry valley]

This looks worse because I amaturely visually edited mine, but the drawing is just amazing. Id use the whole thing if I could

[cold maple]

people hate on the chalice dungeons but i loved them

[loud badge]

As far as base game vs dlc
I think bloodborne has the biggest gap

[lone crown]

They feel like the Bloodborne Backrooms, very fun when not taken seriously with gameplay and more from a lore way

[lone crown]

Easily

[cold maple]

i just liked the exploring the ancient labyrinths vibe

[loud badge]

I mean how much better dlc is than base game

[cold maple]

in terms of what

[lone crown]

If bloodborne’s base game was like the dlc then bloodborne would clear as my favorite

[viscid wind]

I think repentance is a humongous gap

[cold maple]

anything that isn’t boss related i wouldn’t say so

and we don’t talk about laurence

[loud badge]

Im not big on Lovecraft ngl
So idk if I get a say

[lone crown]

…what about…

Boss OST!

Gottem!!!!

[gray parcel]

bishop cane

[viscid wind]

I hope the claw crest isn't hard to get

[lone crown]

Anyway fishing hamlet just carries for me i love it to death, also clocktower room

[cold maple]

Gehrman’s is my favorite

[gray parcel]

does this mean youre elligable for being pope?

[cold maple]

but ludwig lady maria and laurence ost are out of this world

[loud badge]

Laurence ost is the best ngl

[viscid wind]

cardinals are red
Grievous santa is red
coincidence ?

[lone crown]

Im 95% confident its from this thing

[gray parcel]

maria's is aight

[viscid wind]

But literally hornet has the claw crest when fighting it

[lone crown]

This area is located top left from Bellhart

[gray parcel]

killed her too fast to know

[loud badge]

Hoping silksong is 3x harder than hollow knight

[lone crown]

Oh, then uhhhhh fuck you got me there

[viscid wind]

didn't tc say silksong will be around the same difficulty

[loud badge]

💔

5/10

[gray parcel]

how will the children beat it?

[rapid abyss]

Hk is difficult

[lone crown]

If only bloodborne were peak…

[viscid wind]

But the combat is a lot different so you can't just sweep after playing hk

[gray parcel]

gurt: sybau

[loud badge]

I dont mean patheon lvl difficulty

I just mean NKG difficulty

Or pure vessel

[gray parcel]

easy mode?

[viscid wind]

mid i think

[gray parcel]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GoGvhioXAAEc-kU.gif

[rapid abyss]

I mean for people who have played the game and have full comprehension of the mechanics and controls and bosses and movement like ya it seems easy

But for brand new players its more difficult than most games ive played are i think

[loud badge]

Movment looks easier
Unless hornets hitxbox is bugger

[lone crown]

TRUTH AND REAL!!!

I mean hornet takes up more space on screen

[viscid wind]

Assuming silksong is a lot longer

[brittle arch]

defeat final boss

[rapid abyss]

Does she?

[loud badge]

https://tenor.com/view/true-feel-that-thats-true-gif-7410050725709839510

[lone crown]

Duh, the difference is like extremely obvious

Even talked about in edge, about her size and weightiness

[shell yacht]

[lone crown]

Mmm

[shell yacht]

Oh SS convo ignore me

[brittle arch]

she might get smaller hitbox

[loud badge]

Wonder if we will meet any kings or gods in silksong

[lone crown]

Dont think so

I think it’ll be pretty normally sized

[brittle arch]

maybe they'll remove hitbox from her horn

[viscid wind]

Difficulty ceiling must be higher

[loud badge]

Thankfully her head isn't part of the hitbox

[brittle arch]

cuz those are really long horn

[rapid abyss]

I thiuhht the workd in general and area seen on screen is scaledo to be bigger as well

Wow i cant type

[gray parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-invincible-edit-invincible-variants-mark-invincible-mark-grayson-gif-12234464679340185737

[lone crown]

Oh this? Yeah i agree, and also thats basically confirmed thanks to a frame of Last Judge sitting on hornet and overlapping with horns but she hasnt taken damage yet

But that might also just be last judge hitbox size also being different

[rapid abyss]

Why do nba games start so late man

[gray parcel]

all for bron

[loud badge]

I mean

Isn't it the same with the knight?

The hit box starts at the neck?

[lone crown]

The knight’s hitbox is tiny yeah

Get hit = skill issue

Duh!!!

[rapid abyss]

Hes so good

Just pulled a beautiful 3

[gray parcel]

glass soul run

[gray parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-sunshine-lebron-james-sunshine-sunshine-lebron-you-are-my-sunshine-you-are-my-sunshine-gif-509896211431970290

[rapid abyss]

HES SO GOOD

Shoot it missed

[rapid abyss]

Mustve hired a sniper to knock the ball off course

[gray parcel]

ball was flat

[fallow tusk]

I must steal this gif now

[loud badge]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[fallow tusk]

team cherry themselves

[gray parcel]

is that a tlou pfp?

like the rim?

[fallow tusk]

Avatar decoration, yup

[frozen frigate]

found a 10 vein of diamonds as i was leaving this cave with 17

today is my lucky day

[rapid abyss]

ahhh im so sleeper

[gray parcel]

sickkk

love that game

[loud badge]

Does anyone here use the word slop?
Pls say no

[gray parcel]

just started a grounded save

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-dopesmoker-matt-pike-al-cisneros-dragonaut-holy-mountain-gif-26611435

[pulsar remnant]

Why

[loud badge]

Blocked🚫

[pulsar remnant]

I’m just wondering

[loud badge]

Never had a good time with someone who used that word

At least seriously

[rapid abyss]

Occasionally

[fallow tusk]

Great game, I've wanted to watch the tv version of it, apparently its good as well

[rapid abyss]

For like the ai ghibli “trend”

[clever sable]

depends, "ai slop" = totally fair

[loud badge]

Ai slop yeah ofc

[clever sable]

calling things human people have put effort and creativity into "slop"? way less cool

[pulsar remnant]

I only use it when referring to things like AI and the children content farms

[rapid abyss]

Sometimes shit really is just some slop though

[rapid abyss]

Ya this fs fs

[loud badge]

Idk just see a bunch of anime pfp use it a lot

[rapid abyss]

Like fuckin lankeybox