#archived-modding-help

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elfin jasper
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Please read the first pin

full ivy
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I am also new to discord... where is it?

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(Sry)

glass meteor
full ivy
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Thank you!

glass meteor
full ivy
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So it automatically downloads mono?

glass meteor
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yes

full ivy
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I am having trouble locating my HK Folder. Does anyone how I could find it?

real jacinth
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?saves

full ivy
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whichever one is needed for mono to install mods

real jacinth
full ivy
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there is no steam folder under application support

real jacinth
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Then where'd you put your game

full ivy
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i thought I put it under library->application support->steam->steamapps

real jacinth
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Can't you click on it in steam to see where it's installed

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Right click, two finger click, whatever

full ivy
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which option do I click on!

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*?

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Got it! Thank you Mickely and 56!

haughty viper
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I'm getting a strange error when trying to access the readmes in the installer

glass meteor
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associate something with .md presumably

haughty viper
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mhm

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like VS?

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or simply a text editor

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kk, it works now, thanks

hallow aspen
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Does the mod loader work on mac

versed needle
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first pin

silent marsh
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i'm trying to install the debug mod and its tanking my game on startup. any tips? i'm on a mac and its proving way too fiddly for me

silent marsh
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mostly my problem is im installing them according to the pins but still not getting the confirmation that they are in fact installed and when i try to mess with it at all it wont even start

haughty viper
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I noticed a huge lag spike after playing for 20 mins, whenever I kill an enemy or get hurt, the game will just freeze a few up to some seconds before proceeding like normal. It seems to be pretty consistent and makes the game pretty hard to play after that

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I'd guess that it's a recent update that causes this issue since it never happened before

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It's likely caused by benchwark since it's not the first time there is a lag induced by play time, but before it required several hours of intense play before the game itself lagged. Now it's barely 20 minutes blobsweat

open kayak
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that happened to me as well recently, but it stopped when I turned off enemy health bars

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not sure if that had anything to do with the cause though, since it updated some mods as well when I did that

haughty viper
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is it enemy health bars?

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That could make sense since it only happens when killing enemies... though no idea why it happens when getting on spikes

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I'll test without health bars to see if it's any better

open kayak
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yeah if you have enemy health bars on I would try turning that off

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since that worked for me

haughty viper
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that's a mod

haughty viper
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@elfin jasper also, another bug to report: Colosseum warp point can't be used anymore. Clicking on it doesn't select it, even after unlocking it.

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also, update, disabling enemy health bars mod solved the lag issue

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that's too bad

worldly totem
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does QoL affect any gameplay elements?

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i wanna play vanilla but i wont mind small improvements to performance and such

haughty viper
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the advantages are too minor to be using it for your first playthrough

sleek tiger
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@worldly totem no real gameplay effects

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aside from some slight speedrunning stuff I think

real jacinth
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And cutscenes skips

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And speeding up text

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Basically, if you care about lore things, don't use it

worldly totem
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Thanks everyone

mellow fern
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Hi, I'm having some trouble with the room randomizer mod. I'm rather deep in a playthrough and still have no major upgrades besides dream nail, and every route seems to lead to a dead end. I've been through the helper log and I'm pretty sure every transition/item it labels as reachable I've already gone to.

haughty viper
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the ones you haven't done are marked with stars

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@mellow fern

mellow fern
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One of the transitions in the helper log has a star but the last time I went to it it was blocked off by one of the wooden beam shortcuts. I'll try it again

haughty viper
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what room?

mellow fern
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the tall room in the fog canyon with the link to teacher's archives at the top and stag station and millibelle at the bottom

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Fungus3_02[right1]

haughty viper
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well, if you destroyed the beam from the other side, it should get opened

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it's a quirk of the room rando, where some blocked shortcuts get opened while you progress through the other room

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just like saving sly will open a new path in dirtmouth

mellow fern
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well I went there and it had opened, lead to midwife which is also a dead end. So now there are no star-marked transitions in the helper log

haughty viper
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what about items?

mellow fern
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taken all of them

haughty viper
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presets easy?

mellow fern
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medium

haughty viper
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ah

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then you probably need to do a shade skip

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or mild skip, even though I have no idea how it works

mellow fern
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I've done more shade skips than I could possibly count

haughty viper
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can you send your helper and spoiler log?

haughty viper
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thanks

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I'll try to see where it's stuck

mellow fern
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that would be great, thanks

haughty viper
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wait, did you try open mode?

mellow fern
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I'll load up HK and show all the presets I used

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I didn't do open though

haughty viper
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ok

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cause I think something went wrong

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just need to check with my own log from my last game

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my log seems normal

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but yeah, this is what you have in the spoiler log

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Mantis Claw<---at--->OpenMode1
Crystal Heart<---at--->OpenMode2
Desolate Dive<---at--->OpenMode3
Simple Key-Sly<---at--->OpenMode4```
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Open mode is supposed to give the items at the start

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so that means you can't find them

mellow fern
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..right

haughty viper
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but what's strange is that you shouldn't have selected open mode since you started like a normal run

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you got your item in king's pass

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so it's not right

mellow fern
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If I'm remembering wrong and I did do open mode, should I have just been given the items instantly?

haughty viper
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@elfin jasper something went wrong here

elfin jasper
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Is that even the current randomizer version?

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That bug has been fixed

mellow fern
elfin jasper
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Answer: it is not the current randomizer version

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update

mellow fern
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right

haughty viper
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ah, makes sense

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btw, since you started in medium, do you know what mild skips are?

mellow fern
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is that bouncing on an enemy?

haughty viper
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no

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that's just pogo and doesn't count as a skip

mellow fern
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oh, what is it then?

elfin jasper
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Yes, sometimes pogoing on enemies can count as a skip

haughty viper
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if you don't know, maybe it's best not to use it

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I ask you because I have no idea either

elfin jasper
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That pretty much encapsulates mild skips

haughty viper
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oh really?

mellow fern
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well in that run I did a load of dragging enemies around so I could jump on them, sometimes alongside my shade

elfin jasper
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Yes, mild skips is the class of all easy skips, pogos, and so on that a casual player can easily do, but may not know of

haughty viper
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I see, nice to know

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Maybe I should play medium presets from now on

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btw, sorry for the frequent pings today, I just wanted to avoid the bug reports being missed

mellow fern
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What's the newest randomizer 3 version?

haughty viper
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shouldn't it just get it when starting the installer?

silent marsh
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can i get some help installing mods on mac? ive tried using the modinstaller but they're not there when i start up the game and i don't know what i'm doing wrong

haughty viper
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pins?

silent marsh
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i've looked through all of them

haughty viper
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you've used the mac installer?

silent marsh
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yeah and it didn't work and the ui was crunchy as

real jacinth
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Ah yes, the classic "it no work, help me" with no information to start with

haughty viper
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it's a refined vintage

versed needle
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He gave plenty of info

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The ui was crunchy

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I don't know what more you need here

novel bronze
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crunchy as what though

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that's the crucial piece of information missing here

covert oasis
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is it stale crunchy or like peanuts crunchy

haughty viper
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what matters is the size of the bits

silent marsh
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no need to be rude lol you could have just asked for specific info. im new to this what do you want me to have encyclopedic knowledge of modding

haughty viper
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I'm getting some silent logs when using the shadow dash, not sure if it's relevant

elfin jasper
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blame 56

haughty viper
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pins

glass meteor
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well shadow dash can't be my fault cause it's aa's

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And those are like all of them I think

karmic wharf
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orian34 Did disabling hp bars fix your lag issue? I've had that one installed too and the lag has been unplayable.

haughty viper
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yeah

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I could finish my run in one go after that

karmic wharf
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Ok, thank you! I've been troubleshooting this for days and was at my wit's end lol.

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Tis a shame but least the game is playable

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Any way to make only the hp bars viewable in debug mode?

covert oasis
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enemy health bars in games are bad anyways

karmic wharf
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yea it spoiled me I admit lol

haughty viper
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it just feels too good to use hahayes

karmic wharf
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Just confirming, that hp bar mod is indeed the problem. An hour in game and I haven't had issues again.

haughty viper
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it's an issue with enemy health bars

pulsar spear
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okay so basically
the mod installer api thing wont let me play hollow knight
like it just sticks my saves on "loading"
any fix or am i just fricked?

sudden ocean
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hi there, the modinstaller can't find "vanilla Hollow Knight". What does this mean and what can I do about it?

real jacinth
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Verify game file integrity

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And red, send logs and screenshots

wet bison
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Does Omnēs Deōrum not work?

hoary aspen
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Also after updating QoL nothing appears in the mods menu

tawny carbon
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@glass meteor go

glass meteor
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you

hoary aspen
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how do i level up in bonfire, i have the geo

tawny carbon
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it should be obvious

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also bonfire is broken

haughty viper
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^

teal patio
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I'm unable to open The Confessor's door even though i do have a silver key

Is this a known issue in any mod? I'll list my mods if necessary

haughty viper
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elegant is for soul sanctum

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are you trying to open the love tower

real jacinth
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You are forced to waterways first

teal patio
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I have a normal key

elfin jasper
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Opening that door in randomizer is not allowed before waterways

teal patio
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Oh

haughty viper
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oh, normal key

teal patio
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Aite

haughty viper
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yeah, you need to either open waterways or have 2 keys in inventory

real jacinth
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Using your keys like a dumb is not allowed

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So you don't softlock

teal patio
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aite

haughty viper
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well, you can still use your other key on jiji instead of the god trade or baths

teal patio
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I didnt want to go grab my shade at 29331km away from a bench

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i figure i coulda use my spare key

haughty viper
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I never got use of jiji, rando made it less useless

open kayak
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for some reason any charms with summons (weaversong, grimmchild, dreamshield) keep disappearing and not appearing again unless I take them off, leave the room/re-enter, and reequip them. I'm only using rando 3 and benchwarp. Any idea how to fix this?

haughty viper
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I never knew what eggs were used for even after doing 112%

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rando opened my eyes

elfin jasper
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Kerine, that is a vanilla bug

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It is sometimes fixed by quitting out of the game

open kayak
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oh wow, have never seen it before

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I'll try that

pulsar spear
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"And red, send logs and screenshots"
how do i do that? sorry im not the smartest when it comes to stuff like this "8)

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screenshots is obvious but how do i get logs?-

real jacinth
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They're where your saves are

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?saves

proud quailBOT
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Saves


Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
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Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
upbeat sail
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is there any quick retry mod for godhome?

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probably not since i dont see it in the installer, but im just making sure

glass meteor
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QoL shortens the wait a bit

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but you still have to click through and stuff

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also kills the 80 year long intro for abs rad and pv

pulsar spear
glass meteor
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that is your game files folder

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Logs are in saves

pulsar spear
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ohhh alright sorry

upbeat sail
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eh, i'll settle for it. have qol already but didn't realize it cut time a bit. my thanks

pulsar spear
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"%APPDATA%..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight"
there's nothing called LocalLow? im not sure if im meant to click into a (nonexistent also) ".." file or something-

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nevermind i figured it out
so the "ModLog.txt" file?

noble coyote
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nvm i found it

glass meteor
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yeah modlog and output log

pulsar spear
glass meteor
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Wtf

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@versed needle help it's cursed

versed needle
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hi

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Delete all your settings files idk

glass meteor
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(which are in the saves directory you got the logs from)

pulsar spear
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ModdingApi.GlobalSettings.json
and ModCommon.GlobalSettings.json ?

glass meteor
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Yeah

pulsar spear
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alrighty gone

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yo it works now ily <3
curse removed (hopefully)

heady pelican
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downloaded the moresaves mod through the modinstaller, but how do i go to page 2?

haughty viper
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]

heady pelican
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thank you

haughty viper
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it's not explained, but I found it searching in this discord

tawny carbon
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proud of you

dusky ridge
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Halp

tawny carbon
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bruh

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just read it

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@dusky ridge what version do you have

dusky ridge
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1.4.3.2

tawny carbon
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are you sure?

dusky ridge
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yes

tawny carbon
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locate

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it again

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also did you pirate it before

dusky ridge
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Quick question is there a folder for saves?

haughty viper
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not really

tawny carbon
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yes

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?saves

proud quailBOT
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Saves


Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
haughty viper
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there's a folder which contains the saves

dusky ridge
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Aight

haughty viper
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but it's not just the save folder

tawny carbon
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answer my question

haughty viper
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silence is a valid answer

tawny carbon
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yeah

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he pirated it 😤

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and he told me a lie

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he doesnt actually have 1.4.3.2

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how could i get defeated so easily

mellow cloak
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Do someone know about Spent Geo Tracker mod?

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I searched for it on Internet but I didn't find anything related to that

elfin jasper
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it tracks how much geo you've spent in the top left corner

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that's it

mellow cloak
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Thanks.

vapid bolt
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the user mastermaxify will chat here in a couple moments

weary dew
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yes that is true

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can someone help me setup a randomiser because it doesnt appear to be working for me

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i installed it through the mod installer

haughty viper
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have you enabled it?

weary dew
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yes

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and i had all the setting when making a new file

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but when i actually went to play it didnt randomise anything

haughty viper
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what settings did you use

weary dew
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i didnt try changing the curse option

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what does that do?

haughty viper
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makes the game harder

weary dew
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so i tried with all of this set

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and nothing is randomised in the game for me

real jacinth
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add seanprcore

weary dew
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ok

haughty viper
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I wish it said to get it when downloading randomizer

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wait...

weary dew
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if it told me to get it then i am blind sorry

open kayak
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doesn't it also download it for you when downloading randomizer

weary dew
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it did not for me

real jacinth
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it brings up a prompt

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so if you say no, it's not gonna do it

weary dew
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then im probably just stupid

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which is fair enough

heady cave
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wheres the mod installer?

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?sprites

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?assets

proud quailBOT
crystal bay
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modinstaller is in pins

heady cave
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thx

real trout
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Every time I install the modding api, it still crashes

haughty viper
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thanks for the helpful and detailed report

trim geode
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I think this rando seed is not passable. Open to ideas.
I have wings and ismas tear for abilities. My helper log only has one place available to check (the $3k fountain), and it has steady body.

  1. Quirrel gave me a hint about the cloak. It is behind the collector. I was able to beat the collector but I can't get up to the goods without the claw.
  2. The claw is at descending dark. I need crystal heart to get that.
  3. Crystal heart is at the seer. So I need dream nail to get essence for that.
  4. Dream nail is at monomon. I could go kill umuu, but unless I'm missing something you need the claw to get to the dreamer.
elfin jasper
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On that version of the randomizer, the helper log usually does not show when grub items become available? Did you miss something there?

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Also, Collector's Map is obtainable with only wings by pogoing vengeflies, but that isn't required on easy difficulty

trim geode
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no. I have all the grub items. there's one left but it's not an important one. I can get what it is if it will help

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I'm a baby. I set it to easy skips only. Looking at the code, there's only one skip that adds

elfin jasper
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If you have the spoiler log, just post it here instead

trim geode
elfin jasper
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Buy Dream Gate from Leg Eater

trim geode
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even though I have no nail?

elfin jasper
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Yes, that is your first dream nail pickup

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It is progressive

trim geode
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OHHHH so if I don't have the nail it will give it to me if I pick up the gate

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I see

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I didn't realize it worked that way. totally makes sense. Thanks so much.

radiant sphinx
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is there any easy way to play godmaster/steel soul without uninstallin the rando mod?

elfin jasper
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No, other than disabling it in the modinstaller

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Randomizer makes a lot of changes, so it's hard to make a clean vanilla experience from it

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You can, however, edit a randomizer save to be steel soul

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Editing it to be Godmaster would be a bad idea, because rando uses that for something else

glass meteor
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👉 implement IToggleableMod

elfin jasper
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rando has too many hooks hornethongry

glass meteor
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are there a bunch outside of RandomizerMod or

elfin jasper
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ok, maybe I will do that

glass meteor
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FeelsOkayMan

elfin jasper
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RandomizerAction is mysterious to me

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I deleted half of it in the last commit and I still don't fully understand it

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Or maybe I should say I haven't bothered to look at it because it isn't broken

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But yeah, hooks in RandomizerMod, hooks in there, hooks in SceneChanges, and then there's also the menu edits

glass meteor
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that is

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an annoying amount of hooks

radiant sphinx
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alright I'll disable - thx

thick cipher
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Anybody know what doing mod "infinity grim" and "upgrade grim child"?

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Now right channel?

haughty viper
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I think one is unstable

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and infinite grimm is just what it says

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infinite fight

crystal bay
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upgrade grimmchild upgrades grimmchild

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please read the mod summaries in the pins next time

worldly totem
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how do i unbind stuff in debug

sleek tiger
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?

real trout
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So, any solution for the problem of modding api that crashes the game?

tawny carbon
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explain "crash"

worldly totem
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I think i fucked up my nail damage with debug and bonfire

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crap

haughty viper
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bonfire is unstable and shouldn't be used

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debug is a debug mod

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nothing you should use in a normal game think115

worldly totem
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i just bruh moment'd myself

tawny carbon
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just turni t to noramş

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just turn it to normal

worldly totem
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it appears only strength is the unstable part in bonfire

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otherwise, it works okay

haughty viper
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no, bonfire is unstable, dot

worldly totem
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oh all righty

tawny carbon
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spell is also fucked

worldly totem
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i really am forced to give up hollow knight, huh

haughty viper
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wym

worldly totem
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i am not good enough at the game to win some boss battles, or complete platforming challenges

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i tried to use mods as a last resort

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but alas

tawny carbon
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just practice

worldly totem
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i tried

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but hey, it was a good few weeks of being addicted to this game

tawny carbon
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bruh

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you cant say "i tried"

haughty viper
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if you're talking of path of pain or abs radiance, you shouldn't worry too much

tawny carbon
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@worldly totem are you seriously leaving the game wtf just practice more

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or use mods

worldly totem
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i tried using mods

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i just did lol

tawny carbon
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and?

haughty viper
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what is actually giving you trouble

worldly totem
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bonfire fucked me

tawny carbon
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bruh delete bonfire

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you are giving up so quick

worldly totem
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i did but im p sure my damage will forever be screwed

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i know im giving up too fast

tawny carbon
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im sure its pretty easy to fix that

haughty viper
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what is actually giving you trouble

worldly totem
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hornet 2, coloseum

tawny carbon
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i cant exactly remmeber it but just ask a modding staff

haughty viper
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trial of the fool is optional and hard

worldly totem
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im talking about the first one

haughty viper
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oh

worldly totem
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im not good at the game!

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and that's okay!

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i loved the game, just not good enough to finish it

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it's a solid 10/10 from me

haughty viper
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well, feel free to come back whenever you feel like you wanna give it another go

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caus it'll be worth it

worldly totem
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yeah i definitelt will

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thanks my dude

tawny carbon
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well practicing a bit more and using good charms works too

worldly totem
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yeah

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im pretty sure they do

real jacinth
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Bonfire works okay if you use it in one sitting. It doesn't handle quit outs. And debug is all you need to keep playing

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Just turn on infinite hp.

wooden python
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The knight doesn't show up, and I can't move

real jacinth
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What mods do you have

wooden python
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I disabled them

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nothing happened

real jacinth
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Looks like you're underground

wooden python
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huh...

real jacinth
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What mods did you use

wooden python
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let me remember

real jacinth
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Some edit your save files

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So disabling mods wouldn't necessarily remove all effects

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I can't think of any that would do this though

wooden python
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I had Tribe of Battle, Pale Prince, Benchwarp and EnemyHPBar

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oh, and SeanprCore

haughty viper
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and no randomizer?

wooden python
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no randomizer

real jacinth
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Benchwarp might have done it

wooden python
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It's not my first time modding, btw

real jacinth
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You sure you uninstalled them all?

wooden python
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yep

real jacinth
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If you pause there's nothing top left of screen?

wooden python
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but Benchwarp keeps installing itself...

haughty viper
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did you summon a special bench?

wooden python
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I can't even pause

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It doesn't let me

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I don't even know what the special bench is...

real jacinth
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A function in benchwarp

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Which you wouldn't even need in a god master file

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Benchwarp is pretty pointless for godmaster mode

haughty viper
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same could be said for seanpr

wooden python
#

what does seanprcore even do?

haughty viper
#

that's the kind of mod you use in randomizer

wooden python
#

oh

real jacinth
#

It's a base for other mods to hook into the game

wooden python
#

so... now what?

real jacinth
#

It doesn't "DO" anything on its own

haughty viper
#

save and quit doesn't change anything?

real jacinth
#

Alt F4 and reload save

wooden python
#

I can't go to the ESC menu

haughty viper
#

force quit

wooden python
#

Done it.

real jacinth
#

Make sure nothing is top left of title menu

wooden python
#

Nothing happened when I reloaded save

#

oh ok

haughty viper
#

I mean

#

did you have progress on that save?

#

tbh, godmaster is already full unlocks, so it's a bit worthless

#

you can just create a new one

real jacinth
#

If it's just a godmaster one. Yeah. Just delete it

wooden python
#

oops

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wrong one lol

#

20 hours!!!

haughty viper
#

just get godmode, increase nail damage

#

problem solved

#

not like it's worth anything anyway

#

self sense of progression had you beat them already

wooden python
#

well how do I install Godmode?

haughty viper
#

debug mod

real jacinth
#

Debug mod

wooden python
#

oh thanks

real jacinth
#

Increase nail dmg to 1000

#

Ez kills

haughty viper
#

e skillz

pine sierra
#

in the randomizer 3.02a, people can choose the options of "cursed", options including "no", "nooo", "noooooooo", "oh yeah".
so does anyone knows what's the difference between these choices?

real trout
#

What I mean by crash is that I become unable to click on the save files and when I click on the mod page I can't go back to menu

#

I checked the logs and it seems that it is because it's unable to install the global settings for some reason

tawny carbon
#

@real trout you can delete save files

#

that works

#

?saves

proud quailBOT
#

Saves


Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
real trout
#

When you mean delete the save files, you mean the progress I made?

glass meteor
#

don't do that

#

just delete the global settings

#

Which are in the saves folder

tawny carbon
#

yeah that works too

#

@real trout

dusty bolt
#

hello, i'm trying to mod for mac, i found and downloaded the installer and installed it, everything seemed to work fine, but when i start my game using steam, there is no text indicated anything is modded in the upper right-hand corner of the main menu screen...any advice?

real jacinth
#

Well, check the upper left. Not right

dusty bolt
#

oops i meant left, i'm directionally challenged. i watched multiple videos on youtube showing howw to do it for windows, and i followed along as best i could for mac, but no text is showing up where it's supposed to

#

i've gone back and triple checked the file install path, and everything seems to be fine, but its still not working, would a screen shot help?

real jacinth
#

Yes

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Of installer, game file location, title screen, etc

dusty bolt
#

okay, give me a few minutes to get them

tawny carbon
#

press windows + shift + s

dusty bolt
#

i have a mac, and the shortcut of command-shift-4 doesn't work, hasnt for a long time actually, i take screenshots now using a thing i access from the desktop

tawny carbon
#

oh mac

#

ok then

dusty bolt
#

the file path for the game is user/library/application support/steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app

#

thats where the modinstaller said it would install, and it seemed successful, so i selected some mods i wanted it to install, and everything still seemed to be working fine, then i start up the game, and no mods... D:

#

i even select one of my save files and start playing the game just to extra make sure its not working, and sure enough, no mods...do i need to start a new save file for things to work?

real jacinth
#

No

#

And that game file screenshot isn't really helpful. Looks like the files got put in the wrong spot

#

Make sure your file selection is the right spot for the installer

real trout
#

Worked, thanks

dusty bolt
#

the file path i selected for the installer was user/library/application support/steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app, which seemed to be the default for the installer, am i supposed to select a different path? after i installed it, a new folder called hollow_knight_Data appered outside of the contents folder, is it supposed to be inside?

#

every time i open the installer and try to tell it to change the default install path, it says it isn't the right one and doesn't do anything

real jacinth
#

Go into the hollow knight data one

#

Show me what's in there

#

Then managed, and mods

dusty bolt
real jacinth
#

Click the button on your installer

#

That says "enable all installed mods"

dusty bolt
#

i've done that, but then it says it can't find the vanilla game folders

real jacinth
#

Verify game file integrity

#

Then open installer again

#

Close everything before you do that

dusty bolt
#

do i do that on steam?

real jacinth
#

Verify file integrity? Yeah

#

Right click the game. It's in the properties

#

It should download one file

dusty bolt
#

okay, its done that, now what?

real jacinth
#

Then open the installer

#

It should try to download the api

dusty bolt
#

yeah it does that every time i open it, okay, do i try to enable all the mods now?

real jacinth
#

No. They should be enabled by default now

#

Uninstall the one that's like... Assembly csharp

dusty bolt
#

okay good, cause i just tried to enable them again and it said the same thing

#

i tried to uninstall that one once to see what it did and it seemed to bork everything up...you sure i uninstall the csharp thing using the installer?

#

okay, i uninstalled the csharp thing and tried to start up the game, still no mods... 😦

real jacinth
#

Okay. We're gonna try this manually

#

?mods

real jacinth
#

Go to the drive that has the mods

#

Download the one that says API

#

Everything else is in the right spot. The API is just not installing correctly

#

Then once you've downloaded it, copy paste the .dll file into the Managed folder from the screenshot above

dusty bolt
#

there is no mod in the Google Drive with Mods link that says API, but there is one that says mod common and it has a .dll file, so i've done that

#

just to clarify, the managed folder in hollow_knight_Data file right?

real jacinth
#

You also need modcommon. But there is one that says api

#

Second from the bottom

#

Says modding API

#

At the end

dusty bolt
#

oh! i found it! which version?

real jacinth
#

Most recent one. 1432, universal

#

Then put that dll in the managed folder in hollow knight data

#

And put the modcommon one in the mods folder which is inside managed

dusty bolt
#

okay, ive done that! here goes nothing!

teal trail
#

?saves

proud quailBOT
#

Saves


Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
dusty bolt
#

didnt work D:

#

still no text on the start screen

teal trail
#

what is the second pathname on the windows thing after %appdata% ? 😄

real jacinth
#

..\

elfin jasper
#

appdata redirects to roaming

#

you need to go up, then into locallow

teal trail
#

alright thanks

#

o7

real jacinth
#

Should be a slash before my dots....

#

Discord took it away

#

😠

#

You unzipped you downloads right?

dusty bolt
#

yes

real jacinth
#

What does your managed folder look like? Should have a ton of files in it

dusty bolt
#

should the hollow_knight_data file be inside of the contents file? the contents file also has a managed file inside it but its empty

real jacinth
#

There's no files in the other managed folder?

dusty bolt
#

no

wooden python
#

@real jacinth sorry for not informing you, It works now, I'm back at my Godmaster save file and I'm not stuck :D

real jacinth
#

You can't open it up some other way on Mac?

#

Like a right click or something

dusty bolt
#

open the managed file in contents with a right click?

real jacinth
#

Managed should have a shit ton of files

#

Yes

dusty bolt
#

i havent played the game hardly at all

real jacinth
#

Doesn't matter

#

Managed is where the game is

#

If there's no files, there's no game

dusty bolt
#

is this where everything should be going??

real jacinth
#

Yes

#

That mods folder up top.

#

Is working

dusty bolt
#

theres stuff in the mods folder too! but why does hollow_knight_Data exist then?

real jacinth
#

So just put the API download there

#

Replace the assembly csharp that's in managed

#

And it should work

dusty bolt
#

holy crap the text is on the main menu screen now!! yes! but custom knight still isnt working, where do i put the sprite files? theres a .dll file in the mods folder, but no folder to put things in

real jacinth
#

Check the pins

#

There's a linked guide

#

Mac files go somewhere else.

dusty bolt
#

thanks so much! everything is working!! thanks for helping me, you were very patient! 😄

ornate sable
#

yeo, is there an infinite geo mod?

real jacinth
#

Debug mod

#

Click the Geo button a bunch

rose ruin
#

is it just be or does the soul master sound files sound very different form ingame?

#

is there any way to get files that sound closer to what he sounds like in the fight?

versed needle
#

There might be some pitch alterations ingame

glacial drift
#

does anybody know how to operate the dreamshield coop mod

#

the readme says tfgh to control, but it seems to just be orbiting the knight

haughty viper
#

oh dear, what horrible controls scheme

glacial drift
#

i plan on binding my controller or something with antimicro to use a controller instead on it, then letting my friend use steam remote play when it comes out to play the knight

#

so we will end up both on controllers anyways xD

#

though, i cant seem to figure out how to control the dream shield

real jacinth
#

Thought it was the arrow keys or the num pad arrow keys

glacial drift
#

the readme says the num pad keys also work, yeah

#

its not working for me though, im gonna reinstall and see if it helps

elfin jasper
#

Are you on the right patch to use the mod?
Is its name showing in the top left corner?

glacial drift
#

Ah, probably not

#

didn't know you needed a certain version

#

it seems i also caused a problem with my game by using the wrong version with the mod, how do I uninstall a manually installed mod?

glass meteor
#

delete the dll

glacial drift
#

assembly csharp?

glass meteor
#

no

#

well

#

Dreamshield Co-Op is an assembly mod right

glacial drift
#

i think so, the zip had something named assemblycsharp.dll or something

glass meteor
#

just verify game integrity

glacial drift
#

aight

#

Alright the problem is gone, I verified, then it was still there, but I reverted to the backup I made for my save file and the game loads correctly now

#

thanks

orchid mango
#

the mods i installed are not working, could somone help fix this issue?

haughty viper
#

incredible job

orchid mango
#

what?

haughty viper
#

can you give less details next time?

orchid mango
#

oh sorry, well it's quite simple i installed the mods and read the readmes but they are simply not working, as like i booted the game normaly.

haughty viper
#

did you use the installer?

orchid mango
#

yes

haughty viper
#

are they enabled?

orchid mango
#

yes

haughty viper
#

and it doesn't show the modding API in game?

orchid mango
#

no

#

also how would i open it?

haughty viper
#

open what?

orchid mango
#

the API

haughty viper
#

it shows in game

#

you don't open it

orchid mango
#

ok good thats what I tought

haughty viper
#

what version is your game?

#

OS?

orchid mango
#

let me check

#

windows

haughty viper
#

directory as well

orchid mango
haughty viper
#

why is there 2 screens

#

I can't see anything

tawny carbon
#

its double cool

#

just open link

orchid mango
#

what link?

haughty viper
#

is it normal to be in D:?

orchid mango
#

no I have wonky disk setup

haughty viper
#

why?

orchid mango
#

becouse I set it up when I had no experience with pcs

#

and im too lazy to fix it

#

but nvm that

haughty viper
#

well, at least the mods installed properly, it's weird it doesn't work

orchid mango
#

I could get in a call and screenshare the experience?

haughty viper
#

eeeeh

orchid mango
#

ok

haughty viper
#

wait for someone more experienced

orchid mango
#

just a suggestion

#

alright will do

haughty viper
#

just to be sure, but you bought the game right?

orchid mango
#

yes

tawny carbon
#

wahts going on

orchid mango
#

but does it work with the dlcs

tawny carbon
#

yes

orchid mango
#

just read up, I'm having problems with the API not showing up

#

and such

tawny carbon
#

@orchid mango show your managed file

#

in hollow knight

#

files

#

inside of managed

orchid mango
#

just a sec

#

there is a screene up in the chat

#

if it's too small i don't know how to show you, do you have a suggestion?

#

@tawny carbon

tawny carbon
#

wut

#

how it is too small

orchid mango
tawny carbon
#

ok i can zoom in

orchid mango
#

good

covert oasis
#

I forgot this server has more than 6 channels

tawny carbon
#

i told you to show inside of manager file that is in hollowknight_data folder

orchid mango
#

ok sorry

tawny carbon
#

np

orchid mango
tawny carbon
#

INSIDE manager

haughty viper
#

I think he meant the inside

tawny carbon
#

open it and show me

orchid mango
#

sorry

tawny carbon
#

np

orchid mango
tawny carbon
#

thats not it chief

#

hold on

haughty viper
#

you open the Managed folder from the previous screenshot

#

and show that

tawny carbon
#

@orchid mango

orchid mango
#

ok, will do

tawny carbon
#

good

orchid mango
tawny carbon
#

hmm

#

thats pretty weird

orchid mango
#

what?

tawny carbon
#

are you sure you are running the hollowknigt exe in this location?

orchid mango
#

yes

#

pretty sure...

tawny carbon
#

is there an API list top left your screen in the title menu

orchid mango
#

nope

#

thats the problem

tawny carbon
#

i got it

#

uh im not sure what is causing the problem honestly

orchid mango
#

do you know how to solve it?

tawny carbon
#

ask a modding staff

#

i dont know

orchid mango
#

but all are either idle or not to be disturbed

tawny carbon
#

dont care about dont disturb

haughty viper
tawny carbon
#

you can @ @glass meteor as much as you want

orchid mango
#

but they dont get a ping then

tawny carbon
#

they ll

orchid mango
#

also you just did

tawny carbon
#

yes

orchid mango
#

let's whait hten

tawny carbon
#

you can also @ Modding Staff

#

56 didnt show up wtf

#

hes probably sleeping

orchid mango
#

<@&328354344313421825> Need help with a problem, the API is not showing up and no mods are working. As far as anyone can tell there shouldn't be a problem.

tawny carbon
#

ok now wait a bit

orchid mango
#

will do

#

also thanks for attemting to help

tawny carbon
#

no problem

real jacinth
#

installing on the D drive is pretty common

#

delete that assembly CSharp from 30/9/2019 and then open your installer again

tawny carbon
#

@orchid mango

orchid mango
#

yes

real jacinth
orchid mango
#

thanks

#

will do

hoary aspen
orchid mango
real jacinth
#

QoL options are located in the save file location now

#

there's a separate config file

hoary aspen
#

I see

real jacinth
#

ah. it's probably looking for that file. Verify steam file integrity

#

right click the game in steam

#

-> properties -> files -> verify file integrity

#

"files" might be called something different

#

operating on memory here

#

then after that, try opening the installer again

orchid mango
#

thanks ill try

wet cypress
#

Mickley

#

can you help me

#

i want to download a mod for hollow knight but i dont know how its my first time

real jacinth
#

?i

proud quailBOT
wet cypress
#

yea i tryed that

#

it said something

#

lemme try again

#

1 sec

#

im verifying my flies that i screwed

orchid mango
#

The same errror message popped up @real jacinth

wet cypress
#

accses to path denied

#

lemme send a pic of it

real jacinth
#

To reset the mod installer, go to
%appdata%..\Local
and delete the folder
ModInstaller
Then run the installer again.

orchid mango
#

me?

real jacinth
#

this should reset it to zero so you can try again

#

yes

#

will be like you just downloaded the installer again

#

so it'll ask for file path

wet cypress
#

i send a pic in the dm's

real jacinth
#

buy the game

wet cypress
#

help me pls :c

#

....

#

i did

real jacinth
#

send screenshot of title screen

orchid mango
real jacinth
#

and more than a tiny cropped thing

#

local, not locallow

orchid mango
#

and what is the name of the file?

real jacinth
orchid mango
#

it's not there

#

nvm

real jacinth
#

your screenshot shows you're in Locallow

#

not Local

orchid mango
#

found it sorry

#

I switched to locan and found it

#

and now re install?

#

it's just more convenient

open kayak
#

my helper log for randomizer still says I can get mark of pride but I've already picked up the item there

orchid mango
#

oh nvm

haughty viper
#

@open kayak there's 3 chests in the room

orchid mango
open kayak
#

yea I got all 3 @haughty viper

haughty viper
#

did you update the log

open kayak
#

yes

orchid mango
#

@real jacinth please I still need help

versed needle
#

Try selecting a valid path

orchid mango
#

the path i selected is one, thats the problem

versed needle
#

Doesn't seem like it

orchid mango
#

heh, no kidding

real jacinth
#

and stop pinging me. I'm at my day job and you are not my top priority

#

you should just be able to say no to the first prompt and then yes to the second

#

since it's on your D drive

#

in the default steam location

tawny carbon
#

idk 4 pings is not much to me

versed needle
#

4 within 30 minutes is absolutely too many

#

In that small of a time frame you can generally assume that if there's no response, the person is ignoring you or has better things to do

haughty viper
#

especially when it's not something requiring pings

tawny carbon
#

ah ok then

mellow cloak
#

Which mods do you recommend me to install? Discounting minor mods, I'm playing with Lightbringer, Bonfire and Blackmoth, but I'm thinking about removing the last one due to a few glitches (or maybe broken features).

wet cypress
#

oof

sleek tiger
#

like?

haughty viper
#

playing with randomizer

#

and not using either of those three you use

real jacinth
#

those mods are not intended to be used together

#

all 3 are gameplay overhaul mods that provide a unique experience. playing all of them at the same time will give you a shit soup of mods and not the modder intended experience

haughty viper
#

seems like common behavior when using mods

#

people like to mash the most mods together

#

regardless of common sense

mellow cloak
#

Ok, ok, I'll get rid of Blackmoth (since it's the most glitched imo)

#

But I don't think Bonfire could cause many problems with Lightbringer.

sleek tiger
#

Bonfire's broken

#

on its own

#

I feel like that's the one that'll cause a lot of problems

mellow cloak
#

Broken in which sense?

#

That makes you OP?

sleek tiger
#

outdated

#

not working properly

haughty viper
#

unstable

mellow cloak
#

Maybe that's why resilience doesn't increase my life.

#

I was about to ask you about that.

sleek tiger
#

well, doing multiple mods at once will lead to things like that

haughty viper
mellow cloak
#

No problems, I'll restart my game.

haughty viper
#

and remove bonfire

mellow cloak
#

Ok, AND remove Bonfire.

#

But I would like to make a new game with that mod, if it works properly standalone.

real jacinth
#

it tends to work okay in one play session

#

as long as you don't quit out

#

it hasn't been updated in over a year

#

so some things may be broken

haughty viper
#

I mean, fine, use it as you want

mellow cloak
#

Ok, then I'll ignore Bonfire.

haughty viper
#

but don't expect to work it properly

mellow cloak
#

It didn't work very well, anyways.

#

But are there other Overhaul mods that are worth a new game?

haughty viper
#

randomizer, that's it

mellow cloak
#

Randomizers are fun to see for me.

real jacinth
#

lightbringer, bonfire, blackmoth/redwing, and randomizers are the only real overhaul mods

mellow cloak
#

That's sad.

haughty viper
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

mellow cloak
#

I tried Blackmoth + Redwing, but the latter didn't convince me

haughty viper
#

you can make a mod if you think there's not enough

real jacinth
#

yeah, so sad that the modding community is active in a game

#

especially around randomizers

#

"active" is relative I guess

mellow cloak
#

With sad I mean that I already tried all of those mods (except randomizers)

real jacinth
haughty viper
#

you're lacking the most polished one then

mellow cloak
#

Not that they're bad, but that I was expecting a mod I didn't know.

real jacinth
#

randomizer has the most modding hours put into it

#

(probably)

mellow cloak
#

Do you recommend me a randomizer that only changes enemies?

real jacinth
#

that one exists, but is kinda meh

#

imo

mellow cloak
#

Or at least that doesn't changes essential skills

real jacinth
#

the randomizer options are fully customizable

#

you can randomize whatever you want or don't want

mellow cloak
#

Oh, that's cool.

#

Then I could give it a chance.

#

Any recommended minor mods?

haughty viper
#

well, not health bars, considering it's having a huge lag spike with recent updates

mellow cloak
#

That lag spikes were from the health bars?

#

Good to know.

real jacinth
#

i wouldn't recommend that mod anyways

haughty viper
#

otherwise uhh, QoL and unofficial patch

real jacinth
#

unofficial patch doesn't really do anything

#

anymore anyways

mellow cloak
#

What's QoL?

haughty viper
#

at least it's better than messing the game up

real jacinth
#

QoL mostly just speeds up gameplay

#

adds back some speedrun stuff

#

makes text faster

#

etc etc

haughty viper
#

in a good way, cuts the slow stuff

#

it's not a speed mod

real jacinth
#

customknight is always a favorite too

mellow cloak
#

I already have that.

#

It's quite cool.

real jacinth
#

?mods

real jacinth
#

I've not tried glorious combos

#

seems like an interesting idea though

#

benchwarp is pretty useful

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poorly translated mod can be fun

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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lots of meme mods

haughty viper
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benchwarp is nice ye, though mostly for rando use

acoustic tundra
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Customknight is the only one I have

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Should try more

mellow cloak
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Should I use glorious combos with Lightbringer?

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It sounds OP

elfin jasper
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All of the rebalancing mods are OP

versed needle
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hell mod

left kettle
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hi guys. I was in here many moon laps ago. that crazy guy that wanted to play it randomized as his first playthrough.. now it's actually gonna happen, and I have some questions.. the game has had content patches. is that content used by the randomizer, or is it limited to the content of the base game?

haughty viper
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play the game properly once

left kettle
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.. but besides that point

haughty viper
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I mean, for what reason would you do that?

left kettle
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also, playing it vanilla will not answer that question, because it's about what the randomizer does

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I have seen it played, so I want an increased challenge for my playthrough

haughty viper
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yes it has all the content

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but what you're doing is pretty absurd

mellow cloak
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Randomizers are not difficult.

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They are cruel.

left kettle
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ok, so I need the Player Data Tracker mod for that overlay, right? and would you recommend any additional mods? QoL mod?

haughty viper
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the overlay is for streaming

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QoL is nice yes

left kettle
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yes, I want to stream it, thus the desire for using the overlay

haughty viper
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otherwise there isn't much else

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you need seanprcore and benchwarp for rando

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I recommend doing junkpit

left kettle
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junkpit.. mod or location in the game?

glass meteor
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it's an option for rando 3

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it's like charms, skills, relics, and rotten eggs

left kettle
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ah ok.. I was looking at the readme.. hang on

haughty viper
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are you familiar with shade skips?

left kettle
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will play on the logic without skips

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as in, answer is no

haughty viper
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mhm

left kettle
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so, the area/room rando can be disabled, right?

haughty viper
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you should only play with item rando yes

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at least for the first time

left kettle
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that I totally agree with 🙂

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oh, was it the preset you talked about, I want the "Junk Pit" one?

haughty viper
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yes

left kettle
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there, overlay set up 👍

karmic wharf
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How do I set up multiple dreamgate through debug?

night sail
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how do I completely remove all mod files? in a simpler term : the "revert back to unmoded" does'nt work

sleek tiger
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disavle them all manually?

karmic urchin
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Verify game integrity in steam (see pins,)

night sail
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that sadly didnt help. mods like infinte notches or for some reason i have infinte soul

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these mods didnt dissapear

real jacinth
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that's cuz they change your save file

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you have to turn off the effect with the mod installed

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then uninstall the mod

acoustic tundra
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Are there any other solutions to a controller not responding with mods installed? I've tried the unplugging suggestion in pins, and searching around this channel didn't yield any results

karmic urchin
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what mods do you have installed, and does it work with keyboard? are there any errors in log

acoustic tundra
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Just CustomKnight, keyboard works fine, and I don’t know where the log is

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Ah, would that be ModLog.txt?

karmic urchin
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yea or potentially the normal log

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does it work without custom knight

acoustic tundra
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Well no errors in log, and yeah the controller worked before

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I’m unfortunately on a Mac, so I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the issue somehow

versed needle
acoustic tundra
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Doesn’t seem to work

acoustic tundra
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I mean, the mod is functional but it’s still not accepting controller inputs

versed needle
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Unfortunate

acoustic tundra
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I could always learn keyboard controls, I suppose ¯_(ツ)_/¯

wet cypress
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what does charm overhaul do ?

covert oasis
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overhauls charms

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📌

wet cypress
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wait can i change the readme text and can i modify it ?

covert oasis
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...yes, but why would you modify the readme

wet cypress
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well

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then

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how can i modify the mod

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i want to make it as op as possible

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cus i want to try a bunch of charms but cant equip

covert oasis
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Are you just trying to equip all charms at once

wet cypress
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yea

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imma see how op can someone be

covert oasis
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then just get infinite notches mod

wet cypress
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can u link it pls ?

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dm me the link

quiet coral
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It’s in the mod installer

wet cypress
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ty 🙂

ornate linden
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any mod where i can see the healthbar when i fight with a boss ?

covert oasis
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📌

ornate linden
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k

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but ... but it doesnt work 😦

covert oasis
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what

dusk drift
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How i can change the bosses of the game, something simple like increase your speed or your life? Or is that not as simple as I think?

upbeat sail
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if by your life you mean hp, the debug mod can be used for that. dont know about increasing speed though

novel bronze
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HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe

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NOT HELPING

wispy basin
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u try back to menu and restart?

novel bronze
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YES

wispy basin
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oh

novel bronze
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DIDNT WORK

wispy basin
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try to go to other bench

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and sit

novel bronze
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I CANT MOVE

quiet coral
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Hey did you know that you can not write in all caps?

wispy basin
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oof

novel bronze
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IM PANICKING HERE

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I AM GOING TO SELF DESTRUCT IF I DONT FIX THIS

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HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

versed needle
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Dude chill

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Calm the fuck down

novel bronze
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MY GAME IS SOFTLOCKED AND I HAVE ALOT OF PROGRESS

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

versed needle
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Ok that's cool, have fun