archived-modding-help

[real jacinth]

Not consistently, no

[torn warren]

hey, when trying to grab the randomizer mod via the mod manager it errors. what's up?
https://pastebin.com/GRCTCHzv

... wait there's a randomizer 2 isn't there?

i'm dumb nevermind

[tawny spire]

ok so where do i put sprites for the custom knight and can someone give me the link for github that has the code for mods

[real jacinth]

Customknight guide is there

[tawny spire]

aw thanks

[real jacinth]

And which source code do you want

Sean and 56 have most of them on their GitHub pages

[tawny spire]

i think i found the one for custom knight but idk if its the right one

https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.CustomKnight

this is the one i found

[real jacinth]

That's the one

[tawny spire]

oh ok

[unborn rivet]

how can I make the enemy randomizer mod to work?

[real jacinth]

fix the code

or downpatch

[unborn rivet]

i did downpatch

but I cannot make the api to work

with it downpatched

[real jacinth]

use the correct api

[unborn rivet]

is there a list for the api versions?

[novel bronze]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[real jacinth]

the google drive

has all previous versions of mods

[unborn rivet]

k i'll try

thanx

[wintry rampart]

Sorry for noob question, but I'm trying to do some basic mods to charms (i.e. make Longrange have more range). I've successfully changed other aspects of the game by editing Assembly-CSharp.dll, but can't seem to find any code that impacts gameplay based on equipped charms. Any ideas where to look?

[novel bronze]

much of charms are FSM, not CS

which requires actual modding

for example, you will not be able to modify weaversong just using some tweaks directly cs assembly

you would have to hook into stuff

not sure why you'd want to mod the range of longnail

longnail is 15%

pride is 25%

if you increase longnail by any meaningful amount, it detracts from pride

because it wouldn't be a significant enough difference to justice the extra notch cost of pride

and if you try increasing pride by a meaningful amount, it becomes too strong

[solid birch]

a question out of curiosity, how is it possible to even mod this game? i'm starting in programming but im really curious on how are those mods actually made

[daring peak]

you get 56 to do all your work for you

[solid birch]

i mean, some of them are so fucking specific and advanced that with enough developement it could match the quality of the game itself

don't take this as an insult i just meant that well, those are mods still and they get buggy and weird, but some of them as i said are pretty advanced and specific

[echo ocean]

;customknight

does anyone know where to put CK sprite sheets?

also what the prettiest knight is?

[untold elm]

📌 #archived-modding-development

[echo ocean]

i have been through those and using the mod installer and got my zip file

it doesnt have a readme though

[novel bronze]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[soft egret]

Hey guys

Can someone help me

[untold elm]

are you on mac?

[soft egret]

I want to install lightbringer

How can i do ?

[untold elm]

are you on mac?

[soft egret]

No

Windows 10

[untold elm]

did you pirate the game?

[daring peak]

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guide/7zarz @echo ocean

[echo ocean]

thanks!

[soft egret]

@untold elm Yes

[untold elm]

okay

that's your issue

[soft egret]

I live in Venezuela and i have no money

[untold elm]

you can't use mods on pirated versions

[soft egret]

Huh

Really?

No way?

[untold elm]

you're fresh out of luck

[echo ocean]

mod is dll injection right? so it uses hex offsets inside the exe?

or am i offbase

or rather the api dll would manage it for you

[soft egret]

Sad

😦

[echo ocean]

damn never heard of monomod before looks like a crazy-ass tool

[short olive]

what does it mean non-functional on current version

[grizzled sonnet]

excuse me, Im having a problem

I cant download the modding API

the one that manages... things

[untold elm]

doesn't work if you pirated the game

and on mac do this

[novel bronze]

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type cd dirname $(
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

1. install mono here
2. Open a new terminal window
3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.

[grizzled sonnet]

my game is original

the installer just doesnt work

it shows an error message

and then deletes itself

[untold elm]

try reinstalling

[grizzled sonnet]

the game or the installer?

[untold elm]

the installer

[grizzled sonnet]

tried that

[untold elm]

and make sure you're on the most recent update

and disable any betas you have enabled

[grizzled sonnet]

ok disabled the beta

[untold elm]

now it should work

[grizzled sonnet]

gonna try again, hope it works

thanks!

it... didnt work

do I have to put it on a specific folder?

ok so

it worked

I just had to take it out of the downloads folder

for some reason

[short olive]

what does it mean non-functional on current version

[novel bronze]

it means

not functional

on current version

[gloomy crater]

thanks AA very cool

[haughty wasp]

hey guys ive downloaded the mod manager and installed custom knight, but how can i change the appearance of my knight? i havent found anything in the mod options ingame

👍 i was missing the files

[echo ocean]

Why is a nail art offering me cloak for geo when I already have cloak?

Do I need to buy it?

*in rando

[daring peak]

it'll give you shade cloak

[echo ocean]

thanks

need that i guess lol

im in kingdoms edge and no dream nail

getting desperate

[prime halo]

hi just a quick question: How do I re-open the mod manager menu? edit: changed open to reopen

Do I need to run modinstaller.exe again - because when I try to do so nothing happens

PS don't suggest alt+f4 I tried that already lol

I have some mods activated and need to edit them

[echo ocean]

yes you need to run the exe again

[prime halo]

I tried doing that but nothing happens... It just changes the cursor to the loading icon and that's it

ok. so i just redownloaded the installer and that seems to have fixed the issue. I hope I don't need to do this everytime

Is this a known problem or am I doing something wrong?

[untold elm]

pin it to your taskbar

[violet pagoda]

is this the place i ask for help if im having a problem with a specific mod?

[tiny blade]

yeah

[violet pagoda]

ok so in randomizer regardless of seed, i keep getting the exact same items in the exact same place

[tiny blade]

are you starting a randomized file?

[violet pagoda]

yea

ive even uninstalled and reinstalled

and still got the same things

[tiny blade]

did you use the installer to install it

[violet pagoda]

i did

it just started happening today as well

ive completed randomizer runs and they've been different

[tiny blade]

so it used to work properly?

uhh

[violet pagoda]

could it be which save slot im using?

[daring peak]

give examples of the things that are the same

[violet pagoda]

i get desolate dive in false knights chest

[versed needle]

If that's the same but the rest of the seed is different you're just misunderstanding what random means

[violet pagoda]

and get cyclone slash where vengeful spirit is

[versed needle]

And haven't taken a large enough sample

[violet pagoda]

get ismas tear in the ancestral mound where the charm at the end of it is

i get mantis claw from leg eater

[tiny blade]

wow free seed

[violet pagoda]

i know right

[tiny blade]

and you say this happens every time you start a save?

[violet pagoda]

when i played through it i couldnt find the dream nail

[versed needle]

Start two runs with different seeds then send your log file

[violet pagoda]

ok i will

and its happened everytime

at least for today

i havent been using the mod loader for very long so im not sure where i'd get the log file

[novel bronze]

**Saves**

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Save Files: %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\

Mac File Paths:

Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/

Linux File Paths:

Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/

[daring peak]

you'll find it where the save files are

[violet pagoda]

ok thank you

sorry im taking long, im making sure its not the save slot, although i dont think it would be

[violet pagoda]

i uninstalled the mod loader and the game and reinstalled and checked the locations in the modlog and the items are still in the same locations

ok cool so anytime i dont put in a new seed manually, it defaults to the same seed

[real jacinth]

well you have 2 errors in that log, and your seed is -1

[violet pagoda]

yea thats super weird

its never done that

[real jacinth]

what other mods are you running now that you weren't before

[violet pagoda]

ive been using the same mods in the log file

for each one

ill try only randomizer on

okay so one of the mods is making the default seed -1

glorious combos is causing it

it never has but now it is

at least we know that -1 is a really good seed lol

[abstract patio]

anyone else having trouble with modding api (v1.4.3.2)? extrem lags when I use nail on the spikes that crystal flyers shoot at me. unplayable situation ... any ideas, please?

[real jacinth]

ask TC

that's a vanilla game issue

[abstract patio]

ah, I see. thanks!

[analog agate]

any mod devs who have free time?

[runic oriole]

Free time

Ehhh

No

But ask anyway

@analog agate

[versed needle]

@noble basin why https://github.com/natis1/combomod/blob/master/combomod/combo_mod.cs#L76

This is definitely what's breaking randomizer

Don't do shit like that

I did shit like that before and it broke qol

[noble basin]

because it needs to know when to setup the scoreboard

send a proper fix and it will make things better

[versed needle]

Send a proper fix

Incredible

I'm not fixing your mod

[runic oriole]

Sean tell us more about your pfp

[versed needle]

It's my cat

He's sleepy

[runic oriole]

Nice

[versed needle]

Very

[runic oriole]

I can see that

Sleepy cats are good cats

So that's good

[versed needle]

He's done it

[runic oriole]

Pog

[noble basin]

@versed needle I'm not fixing my mod either

[versed needle]

That's fine

As long as yours is the one that breaks when used with rando I don't care

[noble basin]

nobody would use my mod with rando anyway

[versed needle]

Except somebody did

And it broke

[noble basin]

good for them

[dense quail]

Does anyone know how to recolor wings? I edited the sprite, but the wings are still white in the game.

[runic oriole]

Uhh

Can you ask in modding?

[near cedar]

Hey

Can you guys help me out

Been wanting to do glass soul for a while, but upon attempting to download it through a link I was given it corrupted my game.

Finally fixed what was wrong and Im attempting it again, this time with some assistance.

Can someone shoot me a link/help me out?

[tiny blade]

tf you mean it corrupted your game

[near cedar]

Hell if I know

Opened up hollow and it was black screen

[tiny blade]

@glass meteor wheres glass soul for cp

[near cedar]

Left it on for an hour and no load, tried again later same result

Just bugged it out

[tiny blade]

verify your game files

you probably installed the old one

so you have a 1221 assembly

[real jacinth]

Cuz you ran an old mod on current patch

[near cedar]

Ahh

I gotcha

Is this the current?

[tiny blade]

yeah

[near cedar]

Aight, thanks

[real jacinth]

I thought this was in the installer?

Maybe not

[near cedar]

Unfortunately not, at least that I know of

[tiny blade]

not sure i just looked through the drive

[near cedar]

This might seem like a dumb question but its been a few months since I attempted a manual download, where do I install it/drag it to?

[real jacinth]

Game folder, managed, mods

[near cedar]

Thanks.

[tiny blade]

it doesnt look like its on the installer

you will also need the modding api which you can get through the drive or the installer

[near cedar]

Perfect, it works

[icy jacinth]

holy god this is hard to mod this game xd i still havent managed to do so

[echo ocean]

Sly won't leave his basement, is this likely to be one of my mods?

Guess it was, disabled them all and he's back at the shop now

[noble basin]

probably randomizer

[echo ocean]

yea thats my thought as well

playing a vanilla run but it probably fucked on something

[short olive]

When i Downloaded the mod launcher or whatever its called some of the mods dont work when i download thje,m

[real jacinth]

obligatory "which mods did you download" question

[short olive]

Custom knight didnt work

[real jacinth]

did you follow the guide? and put in actual sprites?

[novel bronze]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[daring peak]

@echo ocean

[spice sundial]

Does anyone have Hollow Knight Shader files?

[slow terrace]

For the Infinite Grimm mod, how do I pick hard mode and is the scoreboard for it still being updated? (can I submit a score)

[tiny blade]

you can change it by editing the InfiniteGrimm.GlobalSettings.json file in your saves folder

and yes

[slow terrace]

thank you, also, how would I submit a score for it? do I just have to send a msg to the person in charge of it?

[tiny blade]

just send a screenshot

[slow terrace]

in this chat?

[tiny blade]

sure

[crystal bay]

if your score is really high, they will probably want video proof tbh

[slow terrace]

ok so a video(link)/screenshot sent to this chat and it'll be put on the scoreboard?

[tiny blade]

yea

[slow terrace]

alright, thank you for the help!

[slow terrace]

So thats my score. I have a video too if its needed.

[tiny blade]

@glass meteor

[glass meteor]

u

[tiny blade]

im going to sleep soon

therefore

u

[glass meteor]

[slow terrace]

I have another question, whats the difference between the classic scores and the non classic? also whats NGG?

[warm narwhal]

nightmare god grimm

to answer the second question

[slow terrace]

so how do you do a NGG run for the infinite grimm?

is it just one shot?

[real jacinth]

i don't remember if non-classic was sped up or whatever

you go into settings and change NGG to true

in the json file i think?

by your saves

[slow terrace]

got it. thank you.

[noble basin]

all scores are non-classic. non-classic is a bit harder but offers new forms of difficulty

it's more or less a total rewrite of the original infinite grimm.

[ashen nebula]

hello, i am trying to add the mod lightbringer to my game. It says something about having Modcommon for it to work. can anyone tell me what this modcommon is. I already have the Assembly C-sharp API file but when i try to run the game it says theres an error and that i should check the modlog. The modlog then talks about the mod common thing. Thanks to anyone who can help me to understand whats going on here.

[sleek tiger]

modcommon's just a downloadable file thingy

it's like a mod but it exists just to make mods work

[ashen nebula]

how does the modinstaller.exe work, every time i try to run it it just opens up some useless program called xarmarin profiler. Im on mac if that makes a difference

[novel bronze]

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type cd dirname $(
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

1. install mono here
2. Open a new terminal window
3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.

[slow terrace]

(Sorry to ask another question) So how do I activate classic mode for infinite grimm? I've been messing with the files for a bit now and can't figure it out.

[ashen nebula]

I tried to do exactly what the @novel bronze bot said to do but this is what I got. I cannot figure out what it is I am doing wrong. Can anyone help?

[ashen nebula]

Nope, no help once again. Eh whatever. back to furiously messing around with ma computer files until it works.

Anyone out there who can help me?

[real jacinth]

try putting the file somewhere not in downloads

like on the desktop

[ashen nebula]

I've tried that, it still says permission denied. Ive tried using the 'sudo' command so that it gives me access but then after that it says that '--arch=32' isn't a known command line. So i've found a way to bypass the permission problem but the other still occurs.

[versed needle]

All I see in that screenshot is 'mono --arch32' and 'mono--arch=32'

Neither of those are what it says to put

Try

mono --arch=32 ModInstaller.exe```

[ashen nebula]

yeah, thanks i did that and it worked, I cant believe I was messing that up! anyway it opened up the mono 32 but then it instantly stopped responding, i guess ill just have to try again

[versed needle]

Any error message with that crash?

[ashen nebula]

nope

it actually ended up loading

but then my computer ran out of battery

Heres the pop up that I get. My problem is that it wants to be put into the hollow knight app but when i direct it to my applications folder everything but hollow knight is in there. Any clue as to whats going on?

Ok, i managed to fix it by moving the app to a different location. Thanks @versed needle for the tips along the way

[tiny blade]

@slow terrace i don't think it's possible to play classic infinite grimm anymore, the classic scores are there from back when his speed was capped and he was cheeseable but the closest you'll get to that now is normal mode, which is (i believe) essentially the same thing as old hardmode

[foggy drum]

can someone please make an infinite geo mod?

[real jacinth]

It's called "debug mod"

[merry cliff]

is there any place to find sprite lists for custom knight

[warm narwhal]

pins in #archived-modding-development

[merry cliff]

thank you!

[warm narwhal]

yw

<3

[merry cliff]

[thin patrol]

Where can I download mods (Sorry if this isn't the right channel)

?

[sour vine]

hey, can anyone help with a mod problem please ?

[noble basin]

@slow terrace incidentally the new infinite grimm "normal" difficulty does have a speed cap, it's very high like 20k or so but if you're good you can fight it forever if you really want to. the speed cap is the same as the old hard mode. but this is why I don't track scores for normal mode.

[runic oriole]

@sour vine what do you need help with?

[sour vine]

I'm good not ty I was getting a blackscreen but then I noticed the mod installer 😃

it all works well now ty

[runic oriole]

np

Glad that the installer helped!

[tiny blade]

yw

[chrome wedge]

Anyone know why I'm getting this line above the knight's head?

i checked my knight.png and it's clean

[chrome wedge]

Does it without CustomKnight installed, too actually

[light frost]

Try and verify your game files then reapply the mods

[noble basin]

if you have redwing it's because redwing is straight up broken now :crystal:

and I am not working on it really anymore

@chrome wedge if not I'm sorry I only bring it up because uh for some reason it looks like how the flame shield looks like in that mod after the latest godmaster build. It could totally be a different mod tho

[chrome wedge]

Ah, redwing could be it.

I'll try disabling it and see if that changes

[noble basin]

sorry man I just can't anymore w/ it. Once hornet dlc comes out I should just get it taken out of the installer. Heck maybe I should rn but it's just such a large project I did quite a lot on

[chrome wedge]

All good. I get it.

Redwing is on github, right? I've been thinking about getting back into programming. It's been a while, might tinker with the source. If I get anywhere with it I can throw a pull request your way 😉

[noble basin]

Yeah. I was working on a bunch of rebalancing things to make it actually a lot more skillful but I only half finished them so if you want the code for that maybe I can push it idk

the upstream is gitlab but github mirrors it

both are public repos

[chrome wedge]

gotcha

[noble basin]

honestly tho if you actually wanna work on it you should just fork it and make it your own instead of sending PRs to upstream

[chrome wedge]

I can do that

[noble basin]

❤

[runic oriole]

Are you ok AA?

[noble basin]

yeah. I'm doing fine, just not really modding anymore and so I think it would be easier for anyone interested in working on my mods to not waste their time writing PRs for every thing they do and instead just make the changes they want. Since PRs really only make sense if you have multiple people working on something at once.

[crystal bay]

is anyone doing that?

[tiny blade]

your mo

[crystal bay]

what about my mo

[runic oriole]

omo

[chrome wedge]

AA, I see textures for the flame shield, but no references to them in the code. Were you in the process of implementing them?

[crystal bay]

would be cool if you could upgrade enemies/bosses with fire attacks so that the mod would be more balanced emodeca

[runic oriole]

👀

[chrome wedge]

I'm just poking around in it, no real intent to maintain it... yet

[runic oriole]

hey

you can inherit blackmoth too if you'd like

[chrome wedge]

hahaha

hey mang, gimme a sec

[runic oriole]

no pressure

pressures him

[chrome wedge]

😛

[runic oriole]

👀

[chrome wedge]

ugh, trying to set up a dev environment on linux...

i think it's time for a windows vm

[runic oriole]

@lyric bramble do you get any error messages when opening the installer?

[lyric bramble]

yes i do

[runic oriole]

show

[lyric bramble]

it says "Unhandled exception has occurred in your application. If you click Continue,the application will ignore this error and attempt to continue. If you click Quit, the application will close immediately."

[crystal bay]

Are you using the latest version of the game (not beta)?
What is your OS?
Did you get the game from GoG or Steam?
Have you pirated the game?

[lyric bramble]

i got the game from steam,my os is windows 10,and i'm using the latest version i think

[runic oriole]

try downloading it again and running it

[lyric bramble]

k

[real jacinth]

Move the installer out of downloads

[lyric bramble]

k

[runic oriole]

that should have been fixed already, mick

but yeah, sure

[lyric bramble]

diiid not woooork

[runic oriole]

is there an "AU.exe" file in that same folder?

if there is, delete it

[noble basin]

sorry my code is poorly laid out @chrome wedge

lemme find you it

[chrome wedge]

nonono, it's fine

[noble basin]

https://github.com/natis1/redwing/blob/master/redwing/load_textures.cs#L15

[chrome wedge]

actually, I found it

yeah

[noble basin]

they should be loaded here

[chrome wedge]

yup

i was looking for references by name

[noble basin]

look my shit's poorly named

ngl

and it's very hacky

also like

[chrome wedge]

all good. i'm still struggling just to get a dev environment up

so not like i'll be any better 😄

[noble basin]

You're using rider?

[chrome wedge]

no

[noble basin]

so like. All the original code for the old redwing is in a function called redwing_hooks

and then rebalanced hooks was the WIP rewrite

[chrome wedge]

yeah, i noticed.

[noble basin]

but you can switch to the old one by just switching this line https://github.com/natis1/redwing/blob/master/redwing/redwing.cs#L296

[lyric bramble]

ok so now when i disable mods,when i go into the game,the mods i disabled are still active

[runic oriole]

[real jacinth]

Did you close the game and relaunch?

[lyric bramble]

nvm fixed it!

[normal hamlet]

i messed up by binding the forced respawn key from the debug mod to left click . Does anyone know an easy way to unbind it

[real jacinth]

delete the json file in the saves location

[normal hamlet]

found it and fixed the problem thank you

[graceful dome]

How do i change to page 2?

[noble basin]

]

I think

[graceful dome]

It worked, thanks

[novel bronze]

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type cd dirname $(
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

1. install mono here
2. Open a new terminal window
3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.

[ashen nebula]

hello again. I have encountered a problem where, after accidentally deleting, and then reinstalling Hollow Knight, I have tried to use the Modinstaller.exe. I ran through everything I needed to do and the mod installer opened but when it did it showed this message. Any ideas as to what might be going on and how I can fix this?

I also got this message in the terminal after running it. i dont know if any of this is a problem.

[runic oriole]

Did you let the game install completely?

This message happens if the installer locates the game folder, but can't find the files within it

[ashen nebula]

Yes the game is fully installed. Maybe because i havent loaded up the game yet?

[chrome wedge]

@ashen nebula I had a similar problem on Linux, actually. It seemed to "fix" it if I moved ModInstaller.exe to a different folder and ran it again

Not exactly a real fix, and doesn't address the problem. But bandaids are still effective

it's like ModInstaller is remembering the path to where HK is installed and moving the EXE seems to let it forget.

no idea why, since it doesn't create any files in the directory it's in... but

it works

[runic oriole]

hmm weird

[chrome wedge]

56: does modinstaller just search for the game at each launch or does it store/cache that path somewhere?

[ashen nebula]

@chrome wedge thanks for the tip, I tried and it works. Now I just need to get back to my 111% save.

[chrome wedge]

[runic oriole]

it stores the path, but it checks for api and mods every run

I made it

[chrome wedge]

yeah, i'm aware. just curious

[runic oriole]

https://github.com/Ayugradow/ModInstaller/blob/master/ModInstaller/ModManager.cs

have fun

[chrome wedge]

haha, nooo

I get confused with the nicknames...

[runic oriole]

56 is silly

I smart

No way to mistake us for each other

[noble basin]

if you have a white name nobody will ever confuse you for actual modders

[real jacinth]

so like, Brian?

[potent atlas]

why does nobody ever confuse me

[main tulip]

does changing ingame models require coding knowledge?

I need to know just in-case

[sleek tiger]

oh?

you mean for sprites?

there's Custom Knight which allows for such a thing with the knight, but for others I dunno

[silver crater]

How this works?

[real jacinth]

the installer?

you download it, then run the exe

and use it to install mods

[versed needle]

Maybe they're just confused about life in general

Way to assume

[sleek tiger]

oh wow

Sean

why the new pfp

[versed needle]

Because he's a very cool cat

[sleek tiger]

I agree

[novel bronze]

What is the custom knight mod for?

[silver crater]

Ok, i install it and then run it...
But where i find the mods?

[quiet briar]

hello, I just installed redwing ant noticed that healing doesnt deplete that white bar, is it suppose to be like that?

[runic oriole]

@silver crater did you download the installer?

[silver crater]

Yep

But don't know where to find mods

[runic oriole]

wut

[novel bronze]

open it

[novel bronze]

yeah

you should get that

[final robin]

Are there any desings for custom knght mod'

*knight

?

[tawny spire]

Yes

There was a drive folder for them I think

[high summit]

what if i dont have the steam version of hollow knight how do i use the installer

[real jacinth]

You point it to the game file location

Just like normal

[high summit]

it doesnt work

do i put it in the managed folder or...

where the .exe file is

ohh

it says i need the latest version but is says i need the full version

[real jacinth]

Also, won't work if you pirated it

[lavish gale]

Does anyone know which mod adds that badly layered combat music over the base music? Also how to disable it? (I'm using modinstaller, with QoL, Fragile Strength for Nail Arts, Exaltation, Enemy HP bar, and Bonfire mods)

[crystal bay]

none of the mods should change music

[noble basin]

is iTunes a mod?

tbh

the combat music in CoT is vanilla

and it's awful

it's badly layered, doesn't fit the scene, and breaks the magic circle

[eternal ether]

if i install lightbringer + charm overhaul
will there be conflicts?

[noble basin]

yes obviously

you'll probably get effects from both

none that will break the game

in a crash the game sense

but it might break the game balance wise

or charms might have undefined behaviors and costs

[silver crater]

ok, thanks for the help

sorry for the late reply

[delicate scarab]

@runic oriole hello!
sorry for the disturbance, I wanted to try out your bonfire mod but I was confused regarding which "version" I was suppose to download. I'm using steam so I would assume it removes the second and third option but I do not know from there.
Perhaps the answer is obvious to some, thank you for your understanding

[runic oriole]

use this

[tiny blade]

Ty

[delicate scarab]

oh hum yeahh thanks ^

[runic oriole]

np

also, rejoice kuro

I'll be back home in a few days

so I can stream

btw nice Rin pfp Dante

[delicate scarab]

yessss

[tiny blade]

Any% no airswim i hope

[runic oriole]

nou

[tiny blade]

I. Sleep

[novel bronze]

how do you make a randomizer

[real jacinth]

make?

or use

[novel bronze]

install and use

kk

[raw osprey]

hey

do you guys know if there is a mod api for mac or not yet ?

I can't find it in the pins

and this is an exe

[novel bronze]

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type cd dirname $(
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

1. install mono here
2. Open a new terminal window
3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.

[runic oriole]

skip 2-4

[raw osprey]

thanks !

[flint parcel]

How do you change character sprites outside of your own? I mean this in the way that I want to change the look of somebody like Elderbug or Quirrel.

[runic oriole]

No way, currently

[flint parcel]

Dang

[drifting salmon]

Is there a comprehensive list of mods and descriptions of said mods included in the installer? Can't even access the readme files without installing them first

[novel bronze]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[crystal bay]

mod summaries are not as descriptive as the readme usually @drifting salmon

@flint parcel
It's pretty easy to add extra features yourself
you can look at the code already there and keep the same format and add to it
Also, I am willing to make the sprites you want customizable if I find your idea cool (I added gui customization for mola)

[drifting salmon]

still more descriptive than "darkness" or etc

[crude storm]

Umm ok so i'm here existing, i would like some help with customknight- like, how do i get the customised knight files to HK?

[normal pike]

Program files x86 > steam > steam apps > HK > managed > mods > custom knight

Drop the sprites in

@Sugartits#2230

Fuck one sec

Can someone ping them

Also, I need help badly

[tiny blade]

@crude storm

[normal pike]

Does QoL’s dreamer cutscene skip make it so that WD doesn’t spawn?

Ty kurosh

I’ve defeated all 3 dreamers

And DD obv

But he’s not here

[tiny blade]

it might

@glass meteor

[normal pike]

Any way I can edit the save data to have him appear?

I also have Hell and Rando2

If that makes a difference

[tiny blade]

neither of them should affect it

it's probably qol

[normal pike]

Oof

Would uninstalling QoL fix it

[tiny blade]

nah

[normal pike]

Shoot

[novel bronze]

just disable that part

[tiny blade]

but also it shouldn't have anything to do with the cutscene skip

since the dreamers are still marked as killed

[normal pike]

Hm

Right

I could access THK just fine

[tiny blade]

send save

[normal pike]

Ok

One sec

[crude storm]

thanks guys

[normal pike]

this should be right

user2 means my second save file right?

[tiny blade]

yeah

[normal pike]

if you need the json i can send that too

i rly appreciate this

[tiny blade]

yeah sure that'd be more convenient

[normal pike]

ok doing that now

[tiny blade]

should work now

@normal pike

[glass meteor]

what'd you change

[tiny blade]

dungDefenderSleeping

[normal pike]

thanks so much kurosh, i really do appreciate it

i only have to replace the .dat right not the json

[tiny blade]

i think so

[normal pike]

I just replaced the file, loaded it, and used a bench just to make sure but he’s still not sleeping

Steam doesn’t have a cloud sync or smth for HK does it

[tiny blade]

the save should work

you might have to replace the json im not sure how qol works

[pseudo cape]

if only 56 checked this channel

[normal pike]

Doing one more test with a newly replaced .dat then I’ll try json

Time to try the json lul

I’m also going to uninstall QoL

And see if that has any effect just in case

it’s still not working :(

This locks me out of p5 too, huh

[tiny blade]

you can still access both p4 and p5 without beating wd

but it should work

[normal pike]

Oh, ok

I replaced both files

No idea why he isn’t sleeping

Maybe the game is changing the sleeping number?

I can resend the json/dat (don’t know how to check myself)

[tiny blade]

it literally should just work

i just opened it and he's there

[normal pike]

ahhhhhh

maybe it's one of my mods

no idea what's happening

is the number still changed on those

[tiny blade]

no this save is bad

just delete everything related to user2 and use this

[normal pike]

Ok

Should I restart steam too or does that not matter

[tiny blade]

it shouldnt matter

[normal pike]

ok

should i delete the json too

will it auto generate one

[tiny blade]

yeah just delete fucking evreything

[normal pike]

ok

[tiny blade]

hold on

this has to work 100%

[normal pike]

ok, testing the last one u sent rn

just tested the one before the last one and it didn't work

idk if it changed the data again

about to try the last one

deleting everything again

[tiny blade]

there's no way the last one doesn't work

[normal pike]

ok

just deleted all the backups and installed it

er, put it in thre foldr

ok

i think i found the issue

i just tested it with dreamgate

i moved where my dgate was

in one save

then installed the new one

which means my dreamgate shouldve been in the old position right

since youve been editing my original one

but it was in the new position from the last save

which must mean the file is getting replaced somehow???

[tiny blade]

the save i gave you should have the dgate placed next to the hole

[normal pike]

yeah

it wasnt there though, it was where i moved it too

which makes me think it's a problem with my steam or smth replacing the save files

maybe if i go into offline mode

that's the only thing i can think of

[tiny blade]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[normal pike]

rly sorry for all this bother

gonna try going into offline mode and seeing if it doesnt change the file

maybe if i open and change it myself it wouldn't change the file afterward?

what do you open .dat with?

[tiny blade]

any save editor

[normal pike]

it appears notepad is not a save editor

[tiny blade]

the .dat file is encrypted

[normal pike]

oh

[tiny blade]

the .json file qol makes is the unencrypted one

[normal pike]

uh so

fun fact

i think my HK was never looking at user2 in the first place...?

like

[tiny blade]

[normal pike]

i deleted all the user2 files

to see what would happen

and this time DIDNT replace it

unsurprisingly i got a new game slot

ok, so then i closed HK

and put in ur user2.dat file

and it still has the newgame file

[tiny blade]

you are not changing the files with thwe game open are you

[normal pike]

no i always close it

[tiny blade]

idk

[past crystal]

Great

[normal pike]

HOLY FUCK

IT FINALLY WORKED

i had to put it on offline mode, delete the files

then put them in again from discord

[runic oriole]

@past crystal close and relaunch it

[normal pike]

wait

apparently by it worked

i meant the dgate moved

which means it's reading the user2 file correctly

but dd isn't sleeping

i'm going to slap that smug look off his face

[past crystal]

Didn't help

https://pastebin.com/2rWJLchm

That was the exception text in the Details thing

[crude storm]

Umm

so i got the bonfire mod, but when i spec into anything nothing happens

[past crystal]

Might help to mention that I haven't used it in ages. Do I need to go and download a new version?

[crude storm]

I just got it from the Mod manager/installer

The mods shown here that are installed are the only ones i'm using

all other mods seem to be working fine

but Bonfire

doesn't

reeee

[runic oriole]

you do, Grimm

Erenai, idk

wdym it doesn't work?

[crude storm]

e.g.
8 levels into resilience should = 5 extra masks
instead its
8 levels = 0 extra masks

[runic oriole]

idk

I haven't touched that mod in months

[crude storm]

.w. Erenai is aggravated now

A visual representation of my aggravations

[normal pike]

@tiny blade i ended up using QoLs json like you recommended to get it working, and this time it stuck
moral of the story is that i should never be allowed near computers ever
thank you so much for all your help

[tiny blade]

try putting it in a different slot or something

not sure why it isnt working

[normal pike]

no it's working

[tiny blade]

oh it did

nice

[normal pike]

turns out using QoL to do what you did to the json file worked ok

rly sorry i made u go thru all that

[noble basin]

wait 8 levels is supposed to give you 5 masks, dang gradow how unbalanced was bonfire?

[runic oriole]

not much

7 lv gets you 5 masks

10 gets you 6

and 15 gets you 7

from then on...

21 gets you 8

31 gets you 9

and 46 gets you 10

the idea is that a level invested in res is a point NOT invested in STR/DEX/LCK, so it has to be worth it

[novel bronze]

why does res give 22% on first level

that seems very op

[runic oriole]

because it goes from 0 to 22%

not really

you resist 1/5 hits

[novel bronze]

cranky's bonfire playthrough tells me otherwise

[runic oriole]

who

[novel bronze]

cranky templar

[runic oriole]

who²

[novel bronze]

the guy who did all the radiant challenges

[runic oriole]

who³

[novel bronze]

@unique rover

[runic oriole]

h

it is op

and I don't care enough to balance it properly

[noble basin]

oh that's an interesting scaling system actually

[crude storm]

it still doesn't work ;w;

i guess i will try a new save + clean install later

[unique rover]

Hello.\

[tiny blade]

[unique rover]

Yeah, resistance in Bonfire was really good to put one point in. 22% to not take damage is really nice.

[runic oriole]

u think so, AA?

I just thought "heck, damage is so OP with bonfire, better make the other stats op so people at least consider investing in them"

[noble basin]

well it's weird to me because

it seems like

past 7 points you shouldn't get any resilience

because it falls off hard, much harder than say nail because at least with nail you can stack damage and attack speed for some quadratic gains to make up for stuff

maybe I'm wrong I might be misreading it. It's just weird to me that cost per level increses exponentially and benefit per level drops exponentially

Investing in resilience is like, a hyperexponent of falling off. I dunno if that's a real math term but I'm using it to sound smarter than I am.

[unique rover]

Dunno, with the HP scaling you don't have much incentive to not invest in non-damaging boosting stats. One point in resistance and wisdom were really handy, but I couldn't see going for more.

But at least fragile greed was really handy for bonfire.

[humble stag]

which pc version is needed for mods? gog, steam ? humble bundle?

[real jacinth]

Humble version is gog copy

And either works

[runic oriole]

any legal version should work

[humble stag]

thanks for your replies

[runic oriole]

just use this and it should work fine

[wraith pelican]

Hmm... I'm gonna have to get to work on a Rave Knight mod eventually.

[limber haven]

Yo.

I'm trying to practise Markoth with ascended platforms for P5

but him having more health and doing double damage is too much for me.

Help please.

opps

[real jacinth]

debug mod

[limber haven]

This won't stop my ability of get achievements, right?

@real jacinth

[versed needle]

@real jacinth

But really nah it won't

[limber haven]

so just install debug?

then what?

[versed needle]

Use it

[limber haven]

You make it sound so simple so I guess it must be,

I need to do what it says in read me?

I'm not used to this stuff.

[real jacinth]

press the install button in the installer

then open the game

and use it

[limber haven]

What about the readme?

It's telling me to do all this other stuff?

[real jacinth]

what about it

if it's installed, it's installed

open the game

[limber haven]

Okay. It just seemed important.

So what is it that I need to do now?

[real jacinth]

open the game

[limber haven]

Done all that.

[real jacinth]

open the save

click on things

[limber haven]

I mean I see the debug menu and all that.

lol

[real jacinth]

so use your mouse. click on things

like infinite hp, infinite soul, money, whatever you want

[limber haven]

I know.

I'm trying to find how to practise Markoth as he appears in P5

[real jacinth]

fight him in HoG

with infinite hp

[limber haven]

I'm not sure how this is going to help me.

[real jacinth]

you can't die

so you can practice him

[limber haven]

Is there a way just to fight him as he appears in P5 without cheats?

[real jacinth]

no

unless you fight him in p5

that's it

[limber haven]

This seems better than nothing then.

Thanks for the help.

[real jacinth]

if you play with infinite hp, it's basically the exact same as p5

cuz his dmg means nothing

and the extra hp he has also means really nothing, cuz you can keep doing it over and over anyways

[mossy badger]

is there a page with mod descriptions on it?

[novel bronze]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[mossy badger]

ty

ty bot

[real jacinth]

yw

my name is Mick tho

but whatever

semantics

[mossy badger]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/9eh5sz/play_with_mods_they_said/

what was this mod if you know?

[tiny blade]

that'd be lightbringer, enemy rando and enemyhpbar

[mossy badger]

do I want enemy random, hrm

[real jacinth]

well it's currently broken so....

[novel bronze]

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kSTRoDuUoDv_-b5M9W3wZd2Qzbbmi0w3pk6yUFun-1E
Charm Overhaul readme. Installer retrieves an old version of the readme for some reason

[tiny blade]

thanks nathan

[novel bronze]

UwU

[tiny blade]

:3

[deep nexus]

does anyone know the name of the mod that turns the radiance into a communist comrade

[novel bronze]

it is not available publicly, because it isn't a normal mod

it actually edits assets

rather than injecting

[deep nexus]

but would it be possible to change the assets then?

[real jacinth]

not with available mods, no

[deep nexus]

well there goes my will to exist

[urban sandal]

ive downloaded a mod for hollow knight and its a dll folder

how do i open it?

[real jacinth]

wat

use the installer

and the mods ARE dll files

[urban sandal]

yea forgot

was being stupid

got it figured out thanks

[urban sandal]

i accidentally hid the menu for debug menus

so how do i turn it back on?

[real jacinth]

F1

[urban sandal]

thanks

[runic oriole]

@novel bronze installer grabs the readme from the zip itself

[somber birch]

So I downloaded the mod installer, but when I open it after 20 seconds it deletes itself.

Not sure why

[solid birch]

is there a better description of what the "Unoficiall Hollow Knight Patch" changes?

[noble basin]

uh nothing consequential

it fixes the dash tink bug and a bug with pure vessel's statue, and the lifeblood bug where taking more than 1 damage could nullify your lifeblood early

[runic oriole]

@somber birch delete au.exe and try again

[solid birch]

oh okay

[somber birch]

Something changed, not sure. Just redownloaded a few times thanks

Okay, so I just installed the debug (sorry, but PoH hard), it shows up in the managed folder, but it doesn't appear in the mods list in options.

[real jacinth]

Open your game

Like a save

[somber birch]

Oh, yeah. I didn't actually think of trying that

[novel bronze]

Why would you even use debug for PoH?

I get it its difficult but if you can't do it then don't

Its not mandatory for anything

[daring peak]

but i need achievements!!!

[real jacinth]

Gotta flex those pointless points

Show off dat big epeen

[novel bronze]

p5 isn't even that flex worthy imo

If you're gonna flex do it for something really hard like weathered masks or all rads

[daring peak]

all rads

hard

😔

[limber haven]

I never really used the mod for help but thanks anyway.

I was able to unlock Absolute Radiance

[somber birch]

Actually, while we are on the topic, are clearing all of the bindings necessary?

[real jacinth]

necessary for what

[somber birch]

Anything, achievements, lore etc.

I have no idea and refuse to look it up

[real jacinth]

i mean, it does something

[somber birch]

Right. As dumb as this sounds, I want to cheat as little as possible

[novel bronze]

8 bindings to unlock pantheon lifeblood

all bindings to unlock land of storms and weathered mask

[narrow flicker]

I found a part of the game laking, and I wanted to change it, so I made my own theme for Traitor Lord. I want to know how I would go about adding it in.

[drifting salmon]

query, can you use charm overhaul and exaltation

[novel bronze]

I would advise against it

exaltation causes conflicts

[drifting salmon]

gotcha. I'll hold off at least until I finish pantheons then, then try them out seperately

[sour bluff]

Hey, couldn't figure out which channel to ask this in. Supposedly there's a HK randomizer, where can I go to find it?

Sorry about that, didn't know it was packaged as part of a mod installer.

Wanted to get this installed before I finish 112%

[solid birch]

um how do i change pages in the more saves mod?

nothing seems to work and i just wanted to see if it works

[daring peak]

]

[real jacinth]

No

There's a mod that normalizes load time to >3s for 2 PCs, but both PCs have the mod running

there is no mod that sets load times to be equal to PS4

[deep nexus]

for the mod installer mods, is there a page or something with a description of them

[novel bronze]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[real jacinth]

also each mod has a readme

[somber birch]

How do I unbind something in the debug mod?

[real jacinth]

bind it to something else

did you bind things to mouse buttons

[somber birch]

No, luckily

[real jacinth]

if you absolutely need to delete all bindings, there's a json file where your save files are located that stores those bindings

[somber birch]

Ah ok, nevermind then

[urban sandal]

do i put modcommon in the managed folder or mod folder?

[tiny blade]

latter

[urban sandal]

so the mod folder?

[tiny blade]

yes

[urban sandal]

kk

[urban sandal]

so for the redwing mod there are two files the intergration and the normal redwing file which one do i use?

[real jacinth]

the mod includes both, so use both?

[noble basin]

yes

both are needed

[slow terrace]

hey, I installed the enemy randomizer mod, but it doesn't seem to be working. the options for it appear in the menus, but it doesn't actually switch any enemies. I'm also using the item randomizer.

[real jacinth]

The enemy randomizer is broken

[slow terrace]

so theres no way to use it?

[real jacinth]

Not on current patch

[slow terrace]

ok, thanks for info.

[barren gyro]

What mod would be causing me to skip the dreamer sections?

[tiny blade]

qol

[barren gyro]

Can that part be disabled somehow and is that what it means by 'better dreamers'?

Cause if so that is horribly unclear

[tiny blade]

yes

to both

click on the mods button in the main menu

[barren gyro]

I don't see that as an option

Are they not all showing or something?

[molten ice]

uh, how can i install the DebugMod?
I'm too lazy to actually farm essence so

[daring peak]

u mean beat a dream boss

[molten ice]

no

[barren gyro]

I've not had to farm any

[tiny blade]

what do you mean you don't see it

you click options then mods

[tame tulip]

farm essence??

[molten ice]

?
i just want essence

[tame tulip]

you shouldn't need to ever farm essence

[molten ice]

uh, ok

[tame tulip]

is this your first playthrough?

[molten ice]

Yep

[daring peak]

so just beat a dream boss

[tame tulip]

yeah

[molten ice]

okay, make sense

[barren gyro]

On the 'mods' page I see
Fixtext: on
Fixdashmaster: on
InfinitePoP: on (what does this one do exactly it seems less clear from the read me)
Mousebindings: on
NoHardSaves: on
SalubraKiller: on
SkipCutscenes: on
SpeedBroke: on
UHKpatch: on

[tiny blade]

it's skipcutscenes

probably

[barren gyro]

No button to change page or see more options

[daring peak]

watch credits

[tiny blade]

i think infinitepop is fairly self explanatory

[barren gyro]

No because it lists it as two things on the top corner

Better dreamers doesn't turn off with skip cutscenes

And I've been seeing those anyway

The confusing thing about it is that its written like an acronym not like it's shortening something

P.o.P not just pop-ulation

[tiny blade]

🤔

[daring peak]

it is actually an initialism

[tiny blade]

this better dreamers you speak of is not a qol thing

[tame tulip]

do you know what pop is

[barren gyro]

It's listed as a thing in the QoL readme

So I'm pretty sure it is

[tiny blade]

i don't have any better dreamers mod in the top left corner of the screen

[daring peak]

56 did not prepare for anyone to actually read the readme and has not updated it in 7 decades

[barren gyro]

Or... Nevermind I was getting confused in going back and forth

[daring peak]

🤔

[tiny blade]

🤔

[barren gyro]

Alright so how do I stop it from skipping them then?

Disable QoL?

[tiny blade]

disable skipcutscenes

or dont do anything because who would want to go through the dreamer sequence after their first playthrough

[barren gyro]

Didn't think that was a cutscene

Because I'm playing with someone watching

[tiny blade]

@glass meteor how to disable skipping dreamers

[glass meteor]

what kuro said

it has two cutscenes in it

and skipping them is effort

so i just skipped the whole thing

might as well be a cutscene

[barren gyro]

Hmm

Other cutscenes have been playing but guess so

Also something that may wanna be looked into by someone but the actual mod menu can't be accessed by controller

@daring peak what is it an initialism for?

[tame tulip]

path of pain

[barren gyro]

Oh... Der

Does it just make it repeatable or unending?

[tame tulip]

repeatable

[sleek tiger]

unending randomly generated Path of Pain when?

[barren gyro]

By the Pale King no...

[sleek tiger]

yes

YES

[barren gyro]

What does 'no hard saves' mean exactly?