archived-modding-help

[teal sleet]

But I've been interested in modding Hollow Knight to further my beginner-ish coding skills

I've tried opening the .assets and .resources files with a text editor, but it won't show human-readable code

This is in sharedassets146.assets on Notepad++

[trail flint]

you basically get visual studio, download the API and make a mod through VS

theres sample mods that would get you started

[teal sleet]

Okay

I've found this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c40y5PSH-sw

Which I'm gonna do soon/download the API and mods for reference,

I just wasn't sure how to actually view them

To study them.

[runic oriole]

so

let's move to the main channel

[wicked flame]

Query: Is there any known issue list for lightbringer mod?

Disabled most mods, tried new save and debug-tested unbreakable nightmare, despite my soul is at 99 the lance still do 3 damage only

[wicked flame]

Also, while Slient Divide cancels the recoil of big lance (as it's firing on both sides), when twin fang also equiped,

recoil exist again and always push me to the left, no matter which side I'm facing...

[runic oriole]

@glass meteor

[shell scroll]

The installation of the mod manager went smoothlt for me, but is there any place that I can look to see what each md actually does? The readme isn't always helpful, nor is it always there to begin with

[novel bronze]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[glass meteor]

summaries

[shell scroll]

Ah, thank you

[lone sleet]

how do I install mods? I would like to play bonfire mod

[plucky pewter]

i was wondering do i have to download a specific version of the modding api or doesnt it matter which one it is?

[tiny blade]

you can just use the installer linked above

[plucky pewter]

ok

ty

[plucky pewter]

do i have to keep it open to use the mods?

[glass meteor]

No

[plucky pewter]

ok thanks

[final jetty]

bois, i installed the mod installer and the hp bars mod, but now when i play, the borders of the screen arent locked to i accidentally click out of the game all the time

[untold elm]

okay

setting click fullscreen

[final jetty]

cant

it doesnt let me click it

[tiny blade]

do alt + enter

how do you manage to click out of the game btw

[final jetty]

you know how normally your cursor stops at the edge of the game right?

mine just doesnt

[glass meteor]

Yeah the api disables that

[tiny blade]

but how are you clicking out oif the game

[final jetty]

can i enable that?

[tiny blade]

please do not tell me you play mouse

[glass meteor]

move moues to left

click

[untold elm]

also, don't be a 56

play without mouse

[final jetty]

i use my mouse to attack and dash cuz thats what im used to from other games

[glass meteor]

haha yes

[tiny blade]

disgusting

[glass meteor]

same

[crystal bay]

incredible

I hate how discord removes empty space

[glass meteor]

just use _ _

_ _ empty space before this

don't question that

[final jetty]

so cant disable the border thingy?

or enable

or whatever

[glass meteor]

There's no setting for it

[final jetty]

guess ill try looking in the config or whatever

[glass meteor]

I could maybe write a tiny mod for it but I don't think I even have enough space for hk on this computer

[tiny blade]

70 gb

[glass meteor]

Half of it is allocated to linux

[final jetty]

guess i could just learn to code or whatever

is there a way to disable the api?

[glass meteor]

No

I mean yeah

But you can't use mods w/out it

[final jetty]

nah ik

i just want to remove it temporarily while i do some grinding and then enable it again whenever i do bossfights

i only use the hp bars mod

[glass meteor]

Yeah

Rename Assembly-CSharp.dll in your hollow_knight_Data/Managed/ folder to like

API.dll

And then verify game integrity

It'll redownload the normal one

When you want to swap back

rename the normal one to Assembly_CSharp_V.dll or something

and rename API.dll back to Assembly_CSharp.dll

almost enough space

[final jetty]

okay im trying, still sorta confused but you can only hope

i renamed the thing and its validating files

[glass meteor]

Start:
Assembly_CSharp.dll => Modded.dll
Steam => Hollow Knight => Properties => Verify Game Integrity

Play as normal

Assembly_CSharp.dll => Vanilla.dll
Modded.dll => Assembly_CSharp.dll```

```Back to vanilla:
Assembly_CSharp.dll => Modded.dll
Vanilla.dll => Assembly_CSharp.dll```

idk if that's more clear or less

[final jetty]

yeah

when you said the normal one i wasnt sure what was normal

[tiny blade]

consider installing iconoclasts insteazd of hollow knight

[final jetty]

that looks weird

ayy its working

thanks

[glass meteor]

yw

[final jetty]

if you ever end up making that small mod please tell me

[noble basin]

did you guys know the api breaks all controller inputs on linux

and I'm still not sure why

you have to compile the api with the linux assembly csharp to fix it

[glass meteor]

Have you tried

diffing the assemblies

so it can actually get fixed

[noble basin]

send me the vanilla windows assembly

[runic oriole]

wait

[noble basin]

in dms or something

and I'll fix it

[tiny blade]

play kb

[runic oriole]

it also breaks controllers for me on windows

[glass meteor]

I don't even have the vanilla windows assembly

[runic oriole]

same

lemme validate rq

[tiny blade]

[runic oriole]

dlk to the rescue

[noble basin]

alright ty dlk

now I gotta reverify to get the vanilla one for linux

[glass meteor]

😡

[runic oriole]

also, do we know why api breaks controller support on windows as well?

[glass meteor]

Controllers work for me

on windows

[runic oriole]

mine doesn't

unless I turn on beta support

[glass meteor]

It's only certain controllers

Afaik

[runic oriole]

or use steam controller configs

yeah

[glass meteor]

like @ PrehistoricBanana#9630 was having an issue

and I had to find some random build and it worked

[runic oriole]

I think it doesn't recognize it as a valid controller or smth

but the vanilla assembly works just fine with it

[glass meteor]

@tiny blade do you still have ShitComputer.dll

[glass meteor]

Pog

I now have a shit computer

[runic oriole]

wut dis

[noble basin]

what is this assembly even do

[tiny blade]

[glass meteor]

nice grammar

It sets a bunch of unity graphics settings to minimum

[runic oriole]

assembly even does it what?

[noble basin]

I changed my sentence half way through

cuz I wasn't sure what to write

[glass meteor]

And does garbage collection more frequently

[noble basin]

oh that sounds mildly useful, how does it affect perf

[runic oriole]

maybe add that to the installer?

[glass meteor]

I haven't gotten to test it on an actual garbage computer yet

Everyone here has decent computers 😡

[noble basin]

cuz like my really really low end laptop gets 60+ in all areas except the CoF

[glass meteor]

But this mac is pretty good at dying when it tries to run hk

Or it was last I checked

Like 15fps

[noble basin]

and I have freesync for anything over 40 fps

I mean aDaPtIVe SyNC

[runic oriole]

eww

my shitty ass laptop gets 60+ almost always

[glass meteor]

Integrated graphics?

[noble basin]

yeah

[runic oriole]

shitty nvidia card

[glass meteor]

cheats

[runic oriole]

920mx or some shit

[noble basin]

vega 8 apu for me

[glass meteor]

.

[noble basin]

wtf does that number mean, iris uses onboard ram

right?

[glass meteor]

No idea

37 fps in the hive

[untold elm]

ech

[hearty harbor]

that's not the one

[novel bronze]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[untold elm]

that one?

summaries?

[hearty harbor]

damn bro

reading my mind

thank you 😃

[untold elm]

eh, it was just guessing

[hearty harbor]

I hate to ask this because it's probably asked all the time; is there a place with custom knight sprite sheets?

[untold elm]

I think so

look at pins to check

[hearty harbor]

dang didn't think to check the other channel's pins

thanks again

[steel forum]

hey, i'm kinda inexperienced with mods in general, but would there happen to be a list of the charms in the lightbringer mod and their effects somewhere?

[noble basin]

maybe the readme?

[runic oriole]

why do you hate cilantro my dude

[noble basin]

there's a weird genetic thing you can have

that makes you think cilantro tastes the worst

I don't have it

[runic oriole]

but why h8 m8

[gloomy crater]

@noble basin wow i have that

[noble basin]

I'm sorry

[gloomy crater]

parsley also tastes like garbage

it's very fun

[noble basin]

I couldn't live with that

I love soup too much

[novel bronze]

you're supposed to eat parsley?

I thought it was just a decoration for fancy restaurants

[gloomy crater]

https://www.thekitchn.com/whats-the-difference-flat-leaf-curly-leaf-parsley-175565

[noble basin]

I love parsley

[steel forum]

yeah i have the cilantro gene!! i'm glad to hear that someone else knows of it

it makes it taste like soap

i've been told it should taste better

[gloomy crater]

i wouldn't know because i don't spend my free time eating soap

[steel forum]

idk how to explain it

it tastes the way soap smells

but not good soap

[runic oriole]

parsley is the shit tbh

anything + parsley = instant food of the gods

[novel bronze]

Parsley also makes food look super damn fancy

[versed needle]

Cilantro is fucking disgusting

Overpowers any dish no matter how little you use

[runic oriole]

no u

[steel forum]

there's a chinese dish that's literally just cilantro stirfried with pork

my family says it's good but i'm uhhhh not a fan

[glass meteor]

NIce

[runic oriole]

clearly

[novel bronze]

#cilantro

[glass meteor]

Nice sleeping

[novel bronze]

2 minutes and its shut off time

[glass meteor]

x

[untold elm]

I've never even had cilantro lol

I have no idea if it tastes like soap to me

but it probably does since it does for both of my parents

[hearty harbor]

Is there a list of what scene names map to what screens in the game? For example, I'm looking for the 2nd hornet fight arena's scene name

Or is there some resource with various notes on unpacked things in the game? 😛

Nevermind I... think I found it in the assets explorer

[novel bronze]

anyone?

[ionic mauve]

Hey I'm trying to download a mod, but I'm not sure where to put the mod folder, because the video I'm watching uses a folder that says "Hollow_knight_data". I'm on mac and can't find that folder. Can anyone help?

[crystal bay]

@ionic mauve
dont use that video

it's outdated

use this ^

[ionic mauve]

thank god

[crystal bay]

it lets you install mods with a simple click

[ionic mauve]

It was really complicated

where do I put it?

[ionic mauve]

?

[crystal bay]

you just open it and pick the mod you want to install
@ionic mauve

[primal mason]

hey just an fyi to the modding staff the Charming mod wont load

[hearty harbor]

Is there any documentation on the API, other than the direct source code? I know that's extremely useful but even a small docs would be extremely useful-er

[glass meteor]

the XML

and the docs in pins

https://github.com/KayDeeTee/HK-Modding-API-Docs/tree/master/docs

[tropic bronze]

Is there documentation for randomizer v2, which explains all the config options?

[novel bronze]

charming is broke

Kerr no longer works on mods because life

I can explain the config options

for rando

they are pretty simple

ask about a config option and I'll tell you what it does

mag skips you want off at all times unless you are god gamer

because mag skips require an absurd level of precision to pull off

shade skips are where you die, and use your shade to pogo up to an area

acid skips are where you use cheart or something to bypass acid instead of isma's

[tropic bronze]

All bosses or All skills would require me to visit all those in order to beat the game?

[novel bronze]

yes

[tropic bronze]

does it base it on true ending?

[novel bronze]

the black egg will be locked until requirements are met

so all bosses needs all bosses to open the black egg

ontop of the normal requirement

salubra notches automatically unlocks notches when charm count reaches the requisite amount for that notch to be bought, without having to return to salubra each time and buy them

lemm sell all lets you sell all relics at once by talking to Lemm from behind the counter

and I think the only thing I didn't go over are spike tunnel skips?

[tropic bronze]

pogo your way to like broken vessel?

[novel bronze]

spike tunnel skips are when you pogo thru spike tunnels with spell buffering

instead of cheart

I'll find an example

https://youtu.be/n2het8j9bO0

that is a spike tunnel skip

[glass meteor]

they're easier than they look

[novel bronze]

https://clips.twitch.tv/DelightfulAntediluvianSushiJKanStyle

this is a shade skip

[runic oriole]

Should be

Shouldn't

It checks all disks

Yup

Just to make sure, you're not running a pirated version, right?

Cause that won't work in that case

It is, and I fail to see the logic in your line of reasoning

[novel bronze]

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type cd dirname $(
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

1. install mono here
2. Open a new terminal window
3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.

[crystal bay]

@ionic mauve ^^^^^^^^

[glass meteor]

Wow discord ate my trailing space

😡

mono --arch=32 has a space after it

[ionic mauve]

Okay so I don't get what all of that means

could anyone explain?

[glass meteor]

What about it

Like is there any step in particular you don't get?

[ionic mauve]

like what is the terminal

[glass meteor]

It's an app

You can open it from Spotlight

[little perch]

so i got the lightbringer mod, which updated Gruz Mother to Empress Muzznik, and while i defeated her, the doors wont open. is this a bug?

[glass meteor]

It's in /Applications/Utilities

Yeah that's a bug

[little perch]

oooooof

[glass meteor]

Leaving the room and coming back should fix it

If it doesn't I'll take a closer look at it whenever I can

[little perch]

i cant leave the room im in

[glass meteor]

o

[little perch]

both the doors are closed

[glass meteor]

Yeah I'll take a look at it when I can

for now just quit out i guess

[little perch]

okay then

btw, she is a beast

+1

[glass meteor]

Yeah

[ionic mauve]

okay so it doesn't give a response

[glass meteor]

One of the commands is missing a quote or bracket

Can you show more of the output?

E.g

I'm missing the ending '

[ionic mauve]

you mean like this?

[glass meteor]

Yeah

You're missing step 4

also I just realized I wrote it wrong

it should be cd $(dirname

Fml

[ionic mauve]

I'll try it again in another window

[glass meteor]

Alright

[ionic mauve]

okay so step 2 to 4 already gave a response. now I'm downloading the mono

so and then?

I did those steps

[ionic mauve]

?

[glass meteor]

You download mono

then run the installer using mono

[ionic mauve]

yes

srry see now that there is a program running that has all the mods

Thank you for all the help!

[glass meteor]

yw

[ionic mauve]

you know some good mods?

[glass meteor]

rando 2

[ionic mauve]

and what does that do?

[novel bronze]

there is this thing called a "README"

as the name suggests

you read it

[tiny blade]

i did not expect nathan to be such a toxic individual

[novel bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/plague-biohazard-toxic-gif-5852409

[south zenith]

Regarding the Bonfire mod, is there a point where the damage reverts to normal? I leveled my strength past 10 and it went back to regular levels of damage

[novel bronze]

shouldn't be?

KDT, you are part of the bonfire team right?

[tiny blade]

the enemies scale as you progress through the game

[south zenith]

Huh, is that based on your level or through items that you've picked up?

[tiny blade]

dreamers killed

there are probably some other triggers i don't know about

[south zenith]

I'm at the start of the game, no dreamers killed 😮

[novel bronze]

I think dreamers killed increases the difficulty because they give free levels

[tiny blade]

you are better off just asking gradow if you really want to know exactly what triggers it

[silk plover]

I get this message when i try to run the mod manager System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Finner ikke filen C:\WINDOWS\system32\ModInstaller.exe.
Filnavn: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ModInstaller.exe
ved System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
ved System.IO.FileStream.Init(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, Int32 rights, Boolean useRights, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES secAttrs, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy, Boolean useLongPath, Boolean checkHost)
ved System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, FileShare share)
ved ModInstaller.ModManager.GetSHA1(String file)
ved ModInstaller.ModManager.CheckUpdate()
ved ModInstaller.ModManager.Form2_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)
ved System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
ved System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
ved System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
ved System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
ved System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
ved System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
ved System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
ved System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

[tiny blade]

why is your installer located in system32

[real jacinth]

And did you get the one from here and not moddb

[silk plover]

i got the one from here and i don't know why it is located in system32

[runic oriole]

@south zenith enemy hp increases with your level, but slower then your damage. Also, it has faster diminishing returns than your damage

I can send you the graphs when I get home in like 5h

[daring peak]

gradow!

[south zenith]

@runic oriole That'd be great!

Thanks much gradow

[runic oriole]

pete! (can I call you pete?)

[gilded dome]

Hi there, is there a single way to skip the Empress Muzznik fight and get to Sly and Salubra without disabling Lightbringer?

[tiny blade]

come from blue lake

[gilded dome]

Dude you cant acces Blue Lake from the other way

[glass meteor]

But you can

??

[gilded dome]

The Resting Grounds hatch is closed and the elevator from CoT is up

[glass meteor]

Don't you just buy it

[gilded dome]

No I don't that's why I'm here xD

[real jacinth]

So get to right side of cot, or have dive in resting grounds

Cot right side elevator is always available

[runic oriole]

Beat soul master, go to crystal peak, go to resting grounds,???, profit

[real jacinth]

Or go thru waterways, beat dung defender, ride elevator

[gilded dome]

Yeah Hollow Knight is memorable enough tell me the aproximate location I'll know, thanks cause I'm dumber than a bunch of rocks

[runic oriole]

This requires a simple key tho

And cpeak "requires" lantern

[real jacinth]

Either way, you're going to city

[runic oriole]

Yup

[novel bronze]

well you get the idea

[runic oriole]

The rando mindset is the only true mindset

[novel bronze]

here's a better one

[hearty harbor]

I think I'm stuck at a bench in rando... I might be able to baby mantis pogo out, but the bench next to dashmaster, all I have is crystal heart, descending dive, and howling wraiths

[daring peak]

that bench is horrible and no one should ever take it

[hearty harbor]

I can't get the mantis claw spot because of a tiny ledge

[daring peak]

now you know to never take it

[real jacinth]

To air stall

Use wraiths

[hearty harbor]

Should that bench be disabled then? @versed needle has some code to disable certain benches without certain items.

[real jacinth]

Or pogo on some mantis flyers

That bench doesn't softlock you

[daring peak]

it's not impossible to get back from it it just sucks ass

[hearty harbor]

It's not a true lock then

[daring peak]

sean only disables locking benches

like basin bench without claw

[hearty harbor]

I'm on easy settings, would that mantis claw location be out of logic?

[real jacinth]

No.

You can pogo the mantises

[hearty harbor]

what's this air stall move

[real jacinth]

Cast wraiths

To go further

In midair

[hearty harbor]

you can still move left/right while casting?

[real jacinth]

Spells reset your gravity

[hearty harbor]

Thanks!

[raven lake]

Hmm. Any have any potential ideas of why my HK is running so poorly? It's going at 140 fps on my Gsync monitor, yet it feels sluggish, like in soup. I have turned off all mods, (though technically the API is still in place) and it's still just running bad. It's not maxing out my i7 8700K, or my geForce 1080., it's just running like trash and I'm not sure why.

[glass meteor]

Turn off vsync

[raven lake]

Sure enough, that did it. Thanks.

Interesting though that it was still going at high FPS but felt like it was not.

[real jacinth]

Might want to cap your fps externally

[glass meteor]

Vsync sucks

[raven lake]

Well, Gsync usually goes at full FPS and removes all tearing. But for some reason it just stopped working right in HK. Oh well! Thanks guys!

[novel bronze]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[glass meteor]

mod summaries

[split raven]

shoot

alright thanks

[lofty heron]

Excuse me! When I try and install the launcher for the mods, my virus protection seems to think it is a virus. I also get a message that tells me that i am not allowed access to the file, is there a way around this?

[runic oriole]

show

@lofty heron

[runic oriole]

oh

panda is killing it

stop panda for a second, then run it?

or white list it

idk

[lofty heron]

Alright, fair

That got it to work! Thank you!

[runic oriole]

np! Have fun

[steep forge]

So I have used the video of https://youtu.be/c40y5PSH-sw, around the point when he talks about setting up API and going into the folder on his computer he had files while in mine there is nothing

[runic oriole]

just use this

[steep forge]

So what do I do

[runic oriole]

just run this exe

[steep forge]

And?

[runic oriole]

and... Select which mods you wish to install from it

it auto installs api, if that's all you need

[steep forge]

Ah so I just click manually and click on what mods I have in my file and I’m good?

[runic oriole]

there should be a list

[steep forge]

All it says on my mod manager is manually

[runic oriole]

try closing and re-opening it

if that fails, try re downloading it

[steep forge]

I have a Microsoft .NET framework notification but that doesn’t seem to be the problem

[runic oriole]

show

also, run it directly instead of clicking any shortcuts, if that's what you're doing

[steep forge]

I’m using my google chrome

[runic oriole]

for some reason, it breaks if you run it from windows search functions and such

[steep forge]

Ah

Then where would I go instead to re open

[runic oriole]

wherever you downloaded it?

prolly the Downloads folder

[glass meteor]

It's because it uses the cwd instead of its actual dir

So if you run it from ~

and it's in ~/Downloads

it'll try and access ~/ModInstaller.exe

[runic oriole]

AA said that last time, 56

[steep forge]

it’s in downloads

[runic oriole]

but it only uses cwd for updating iirc

so idk if it'd break like that

[glass meteor]

it breaks when running it anywhere which isn't where it is

[steep forge]

Should I just try manually?

[runic oriole]

it still doesn't work?

[steep forge]

I opened it in files

[glass meteor]

u

[runic oriole]

weird

[glass meteor]

It's in CheckUpdate

[runic oriole]

yup

[glass meteor]

nice

[steep forge]

So should I just do manual?

[runic oriole]

show what you're getting, Meta

[glass meteor]

GetSHA1 fails

because it has the wrong dir

I can maybe PR it

[runic oriole]

wut

wut dir?

[runic oriole]

yeah, so it's CheckUpdate

[glass meteor]

Yes

[steep forge]

I don’t got any editing stuff for screen shots so I’ll just do this

[glass meteor]

What is _button4

[runic oriole]

just use the printscreen button

I think that's obsolete 56

or donation

one of those

[glass meteor]

Yeah it doesn't exist

Won't let me build

[glass meteor]

[runic oriole]

wait

have you installed the game at all?

[steep forge]

Wait shit

[runic oriole]

[steep forge]

fuck me

Sorry for that

[glass meteor]

[steep forge]

[runic oriole]

np

[steep forge]

I’ll ask for more help most likely when it’s done downloading

[runic oriole]

we're here to help

[glass meteor]

Wow I fixed it

Incredible

[runic oriole]

wut u using

I can't find the relevant command

[glass meteor]

AppDomain.CurrentDomain.BaseDirectory

[runic oriole]

nice

[glass meteor]

Should I PR it

[runic oriole]

any new usings?

[glass meteor]

I don't think so

[runic oriole]

do you have access to radiance.host?

[glass meteor]

Yeah

[runic oriole]

then, sure

[glass meteor]

Pog

[runic oriole]

because I can't compile it rn

if you'd be so kind

[steep forge]

I’m still getting the notification

[glass meteor]

https://github.com/Ayugradow/ModInstaller/pull/4

If you want to merge it

[runic oriole]

did it finish downloading?

[glass meteor]

Nevermind I lied

[runic oriole]

I was about to merge it with a meme message

[glass meteor]

Wait nvm

I lied about lying

I think

CheckUpdate keeps overwriting it

[runic oriole]

lie²=truth

[glass meteor]

Which means it's probably working then failing

[runic oriole]

[steep forge]

Ya it did finish

[runic oriole]

OH

so

your sha1sum is different from radiance.host's one

[glass meteor]

yes

so it checks it

[runic oriole]

so it's overwriting it

nice

[glass meteor]

sees that it's wrong

and says die

[runic oriole]

kms

[steep forge]

So I’ll just do manual

[runic oriole]

show me your hollow knight folder, Meta

[steep forge]

Ok

[glass meteor]

Yeah it works

[runic oriole]

hollow knight, hollow_knight_Data and managed

[glass meteor]

I replaced the updating with "Outdated omegalul"

Should I make it say you don't have the game installed instead of crashing

[runic oriole]

hmmm

I mean

sure

not the kind of error i was expecting, but

I mean, who would install mods on a game that's not even installed?

[glass meteor]

I mean what

[runic oriole]

inorite

anyways, gotta go

ty for the help 56

[glass meteor]

[harsh yarrow]

I'm having trouble installing mods on Mac. I'm fairly new to this so it might be an easy fix. Any help I can get?

[novel bronze]

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type cd dirname $(
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

1. install mono here
2. Open a new terminal window
3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.

[glass meteor]

haha yes

[harsh yarrow]

Alrighty

[glass meteor]

Steps 2-4 should be outdated once I update it

[harsh yarrow]

So I have to use the installer?

[glass meteor]

I mean you don't have to

but it's easier usually

[harsh yarrow]

Alright

Is it possible to use the installer via wine?

[steep forge]

What’s assembly C sharp

[glass meteor]

Idk how well wine will work

Probably not well because wine doesn't map to Library paths

so don't

Mono is easier

And actually works

[harsh yarrow]

I rather not install mono

[glass meteor]

Why

[harsh yarrow]

Is there a manual way

[glass meteor]

Yeah

[harsh yarrow]

I don't want to install too many things on my computer

especially things that would get root access

[steep forge]

So it seems whenever I boot up hollow knight now it won’t actually start

I just get a black screen

[glass meteor]

Did you install 1432 (no public-beta)

[steep forge]

I don’t think so

[glass meteor]

Where'd you install the game from

[steep forge]

Steam

So what do I do

Just install it?

[glass meteor]

No

Tf

????

Those are unrelated

Because it was crashing

If you tried to load multiple scenes at once

Not the game

[harsh yarrow]

Ah

[glass meteor]

@steep forge Next to Hollow Knight

does it have

[public-beta]

[steep forge]

On where

[glass meteor]

Steam

[steep forge]

No

[glass meteor]

uhh

Verify game integrity

And check if you get 1432 when you open the game

[steep forge]

Where do I check

[glass meteor]

bottom-left

[steep forge]

Add a game?

[glass meteor]

No

When you open the game

It should say 1432 in the bottom left

after verifying game integrity

If you just look at the game it should be like this but the text would be white

[steep forge]

Yes it is white

[glass meteor]

Nothing after it right

like

[public-beta]

or [beta]

or anything

[steep forge]

when I open it up to play it just goes to a black screen with the shift steam command that goes away and the hollow knight cursor

[glass meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462200562620825600/533430177099939840/Assembly-CSharpVanilla.dll

Try replacing your Assembly-CSharp with this

and see if the game boots

[steep forge]

Is assembly C sharp supposed to be installed?

[glass meteor]

It's a file in the game installation

[steep forge]

Sheet

[glass meteor]

What

[steep forge]

Thought it was a mod so I disabled

[glass meteor]

Nice

[steep forge]

I’m great

It’s doing the same thing as last time

[glass meteor]

?

[steep forge]

The black screen

[glass meteor]

Download the vanilla assembly from the link

And replace your assembly with it

see if it works at all

[steep forge]

It says the type of file can harm your computer

[glass meteor]

Yeah

It'll do that

.dlls contain compiled C#

and ofc you could do stupid stuff

But so could any exe or jar or bin etc

[steep forge]

so I just say keep and then try playing the game?

[glass meteor]

No

You keep it

then replace your Assembly-CSharp with it

You'll have to rename it ofc

[novel bronze]

**Saves**

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Save Files: %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\

Mac File Paths:

Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/

Linux File Paths:

Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/

[steep forge]

How to I replace

[glass meteor]

You want to go to the game files path for Windows (if you're on windows ofc)

then go into hollow_Knight_Data\Managed\

Delete the Assembly-CSharp.dll there

put the Assembly-CSharpVanilla.dll in there

rename it to Assembly-CSharp.dll

then try booting the game

[steep forge]

Ok

[glass meteor]

You can also verify game integrity

Both do the same thing effectively

4th option

[steep forge]

Where do I go game integrity

[glass meteor]

?

[steep forge]

Verify the game integrity

[glass meteor]

Right-click Hollow Knight, hit properties, go to the Local Files tab

Then hit verify integrity of game files

If you don't want to replace the assembly manually

[steep forge]

6 files to validate

[glass meteor]

nice

[steep forge]

Annnnnnnd

It worked

Thank you

I’m very dumb when it comes to this

[glass meteor]

Yw

That's the vanilla game though

Unless you re-opened the installer

In the bottom left does it say 1.4.3.2?

[steep forge]

I didn’t see any of that

[glass meteor]

example

that one is 1.1.1.5

if you look near the bottom left

[steep forge]

Oh there

1.4.3.2

[glass meteor]

Okay great

If you open the installer now, you should be able to install mods

w/ no black screen

[steep forge]

Ok cool

Now I’m getting the framework notification again

[glass meteor]

Does the installer launch if you ignore it or no

[steep forge]

No

[glass meteor]

Oh

[steep forge]

I get a thing with AU at the top of my screen

[glass meteor]

Redownload the installer

[steep forge]

Windows protected my pc

[glass meteor]

ahh

[steep forge]

I said run anyway and it said

Folder does not exist! (Game is probably not installed) exiting.

[glass meteor]

Ahh

Show your game folder

[steep forge]

Where’s that at

[glass meteor]

Oh I used File.Exists instead of Directory

my bad

gimme 2m

[steep forge]

This?

[glass meteor]

Yeah

I'm just bad

gimme 30s

[steep forge]

Ok

Tell me when you can talk

[glass meteor]

Installer should auto-update to the fixed version if you run it

[steep forge]

Nope

That’s not working

[glass meteor]

Same error?

[steep forge]

well if I have the fixed version

I don’t have the folder I guess

[glass meteor]

No you do

I probably fucked up

[steep forge]

Huh

[glass meteor]

Does this work for you

[steep forge]

modinstaller(1).exe is not commonly downloaded and may be dangerous

And it takes me to a blank chrome tab

[glass meteor]

Wtf

Even if you hit keep?

Yeah the blank chrome tab is what chrome does

[steep forge]

I’ll press keep

[glass meteor]

Yeah press keep and try running it

[steep forge]

K then it had the pc protect and I said do it anyways

Then it gave me this

[glass meteor]

Yeah that's right

[steep forge]

Ok it’s downloading

[glass meteor]

[steep forge]

And it’s back up

So now what

[glass meteor]

Try running the game

[steep forge]

It rubs

Runs

[glass meteor]

In the top-left it should say Modding Api: 1.4.3.2-23 or something

[steep forge]

Yep

[glass meteor]

[steep forge]

so I just start a new run?

[glass meteor]

No

In the installer you install the mods you want

[steep forge]

Ya

[glass meteor]

then you can just start a new run

[steep forge]

I did that

[glass meteor]

Okay then yeah

Just start a run etc

[steep forge]

Cool

I’ll tell you if it works

I can just keep the mod manager on my desktop correct?

[glass meteor]

Yeah

[steep forge]

Aight it’s all good

Thank you guys so much

[glass meteor]

[cinder swallow]

where do I get modcommon?

[glass meteor]

The installer should auto-install it if you're using that

[stoic moss]

im stuck with this tutorial (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c40y5PSH-sw) on 4:01, it doesnt let me extract the randomizer file

https://gyazo.com/24996195a8826762f83bdaac12578b7a

anyone, help please ._.

nvm i found it

thanks helpful community

[normal pike]

Use the mod installer my bud

If you’re on the most recent version it’s infinitely better than doing it manually

[stoic moss]

i was trying to download debug mod but now my screen is stuck like this

please help

https://gyazo.com/c85411c4243a48db0fd445889ee5a744

wow

i just deleted everything i did today these 3 hours

trying to install mods

i just downloaded mod installer now

and its done

rip 3 hours i will never get back

[jovial seal]

excuse me but why cant i open the game

after i install the mod installer

are there any step to do after install??

[ionic mauve]

Sorry I wish I could help but I don't know anything about how it all works

[jovial seal]

thx

[runic oriole]

hey

2 questions

first: are you running on beta?

[jovial seal]

no

[runic oriole]

second: are you running a pirated version?

[jovial seal]

nope

im trying to reinstall

[crystal bay]

that has happened to me completely randomly sometimes

it usually gets fixed when I open the game again

[runic oriole]

Hmmm

Can you send modlog and outputlog?

[crystal bay]

you can find them in the path for saves:

[novel bronze]

**Saves**

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Save Files: %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\

Mac File Paths:

Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/

Linux File Paths:

Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/

[cobalt raven]

Hi there, does anyone here use the bonfiremod, I am having trouble with that one. After restarting my game it seems not to acknowledge strength and intelligence stats correctly. I am seemingly doing same damage with both nail and 'fireball' as unupgraded.

I first posted this in the wrong channel, this should be the right one.

[crimson girder]

I also need help with the Bonfire mod, its doing the exact same thing as stated above for me. :/

@cobalt raven Btw intelligence doesnt affect vengful spirit and shade soul

[runic oriole]

It should

[cobalt raven]

I am doing less damage though. I was able to oneshot the moss charger, now i am not.

[runic oriole]

Don't trust the readme, it lies

[crimson girder]

So it is supposed to?

[runic oriole]

Did you level up after one shotting the charger?

@crimson girder I haven't touched it in months, but theoretically it should

[cobalt raven]

I did level up after that

[crimson girder]

When I leveled up my strength I was actually doing less damage

[cobalt raven]

I was doing more damage until game restart

I did some more research with enemies I know. I am doing exactly half damage of what I was doing before the restart

I tried reinstalling the mod but now the mod installer does not work anymore

[crimson girder]

@cobalt raven Just redownload it

[runic oriole]

https://www.geogebra.org/m/DQgtQ8m7

this is the balance curve of the mod

[cobalt raven]

Does the mod scale up enemies according to your level? This could explain it

[real jacinth]

Da

[cobalt raven]

Ahh ok

[runic oriole]

yup, but as you can see from the graph, they scale slower than you grow

and

they "stop scaling" faster than you "stop growing"

[cobalt raven]

After restarting once they doubled for me

[runic oriole]

idk

[cobalt raven]

@crimson girder redownloading did not fix it

[wide bloom]

me too i tried to open modinstaller that i got from the first pinned message but i can't open it

[noble basin]

with a username like that my first assumption is you pirated the game

which if so is alright IG but it won't work with the modinstaller

[runic oriole]

[wide bloom]

XD but i have the legit game so yeah and somethign called AU randomly appeard on my desktop

[runic oriole]

that's the auto updater

[wide bloom]

how to i use it ?

[noble basin]

oh wait was the sha1sum changed to the new modinstaller @glass meteor so it would stop autoupdating?

it might be trying to autoupdate the old one

[cobalt raven]

@runic oriole I tried reinstalling the bonfiremod, but it did not help. I can now confirm that I did exactly unupgraded damage% despite having strength 7 at level 12. Also, in this process my levels were lost. So goodbye, geo.

[wide bloom]

do i need to install modding API

[real jacinth]

Installer does it automatically

[runic oriole]

just run the installer. It should set up everything automatically

I remember discussing the merits of even making an installer, mick

[noble basin]

can I make a request for the mod installer?

It should make a backup of the vanilla assembly csharp

ok that's it

[runic oriole]

I thought about doing that, AA

shouldn't be awfully hard tbh

[wide bloom]

So i dont need to follow those read me things rite ?

[real jacinth]

Those give info about each mod

And what it does

[wide bloom]

Aight

[tacit pivot]

Is there a Quick Save mod?

I wanna save the game just on the bosses's door

So when i die i don't have to walk there again

[glass meteor]

no

[normal pike]

Try dreamgate

[silk plover]

i have the bonfire mod dowloaded and enabled but it won't work

[untold elm]

you need to sit at a bench

then pause and click on the things

[silk plover]

i know

[untold elm]

did you get it from the installer?

[silk plover]

yes

[untold elm]

okay

guess I don't know how to help you

[hearty harbor]

Any modders around? I have a buddy who has a bad laptop and the hollow knight room won't load for him. I'm trying to debug what's going on and make a Low End Mod for various rooms that are too laggy for him. The game freezes with the little running Knight sillouette and my guess is that it's hanging on some object. I know I can access all the objects of a scene with the SceneChanged hook, but it would seem I would need to access the objects before that. I'm not super familiar with Unity stuff, so a point in the right direction would be amazing!

[noble basin]

is this @tiny blade

[hearty harbor]

I am not him if that's what you mean

[crystal bay]

56 does your shittycomputer mod work?

that could be useful

[glass meteor]

it won't help infinite loads

[crystal bay]

are there specific rooms the game freezes in @hearty harbor

[silk plover]

i have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the bonfire mod, i have tried downloading it manually but it won't work

[real jacinth]

What patch are you on

And did you use the installer

[crystal bay]

(patch number can be found on the bottom left of the menu screen)

[real jacinth]

Installer from here

Not moddb

[silk plover]

i got the installer from here and i am on patch 1.4.3.2

[real jacinth]

Send picture of title screen

With mods installed

[runic oriole]

title screen boi

[untold elm]

why take the screenshot like that instead of just f12

[real jacinth]

Well you have the API and modcommon

But not bonfire

So the installer is working

[untold elm]

did you click enable on the bonfire mod?

[silk plover]

i have the bonfire mod installed and enabled and all other mods work

[untold elm]

or just install it

[real jacinth]

Did you close your game when installing mods

[silk plover]

i don't remember. i might have. But if that is the problem how could i fix it

[untold elm]

just close it

[real jacinth]

Close the game, then install mods, then open

[untold elm]

uninstall probably, then reinstall, then open

[silk plover]

ok, i'll try

it worked. thx for the help

[ornate remnant]

you can use the dream nail portal

[deep zodiac]

Hi, I'm trying to test out the example mods but it isn't working because Visual Studio gives me errors. This is what's shown https://imgur.com/a/Fy9bHy5

I already built the API from this

https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding

[tiny blade]

#archived-modding-development for this

#archived-modding-help is the tech support channel

[deep zodiac]

Oh ok

[tribal raptor]

I've tried to look at my mods, but when I open this it only shows this. It's been like this for 20 minutes, did I do something wrong?

[sand patio]

hello. i have a question

how do i install mods on a mac computer?

[novel bronze]

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type cd dirname $(
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

1. install mono here
2. Open a new terminal window
3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.

[glass meteor]

Steps 2-4 on the top section aren't needed anymore

so just skip those

[tiny blade]

[sand patio]

THANKS!!

[tiny blade]

YOU ARE WELCOME!!

[scenic flower]

if i download the light bringer mod do my old save files stay and if so can i disable the mod when i want to?

??

[crystal bay]

yes but it's always a good idea to save your save files just in case

saves can be found in:

[novel bronze]

**Saves**

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Save Files: %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\

Mac File Paths:

Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/

Linux File Paths:

Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/

[scenic flower]

thx

[crystal bay]

@scenic flower
Yes there is an option in the ModInstaller to disable mods

it's very clear

see

[trim spear]

uh is anyone able to help? the mod installer has not been opening for me and idk what to do

[runic oriole]

show what error you're getting

[trim spear]

http://prntscr.com/m6s8n1

[glass meteor]

redownload

and see if it still happens

[trim spear]

ok

thanks its working now

[glass meteor]

yw

[scenic jasper]

is there somewhere i can find out what all the mods do exactly?

or where i can find more?

[novel bronze]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[glass meteor]

summaries

[scenic jasper]

shots

[languid nova]

can someone watch my screen share and help me down patch

[hasty jetty]

Does Fragile Strenght work with the Bonfire mod?

[runic oriole]

should

[untold elm]

download that

then select download randomizer 2

[dreamy ember]

okay

[untold elm]

and also probably qol

[dreamy ember]

qol?

[untold elm]

quality of life

https://rainingchain.com/hollowknight/randomizer this is also helpful @dreamy ember

[dreamy ember]

wow thank you i will check it out

[sand patio]

tried installing on my mac but this happened

i got a permission denied

[novel bronze]

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type cd dirname $(
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

1. install mono here
2. Open a new terminal window
3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.

[untold elm]

steps 2-4 aren't required anymore

[sand patio]

i know

i only opened the terminal used mono then dragged the exe to terminal

[glass meteor]

it's supposed to be

mono --arch=32 /User/sebastian/Desktop/ModInstaller.exe

one command

[sand patio]

ooooh ok

what is supposed to happen after that?

[glass meteor]

the installer runs

[runic oriole]

56 try new installer plz

[glass meteor]

I would but I don't have hk installed

[runic oriole]

u = satan

[glass meteor]

sebastian do cd Desktop

gradow did you recompile without the pr

because it crashes for me now

instead of exiting after saying i don't have the game

[sand patio]

ok after doing cd desktop should i try step 5 and 6 again?

[tiny blade]

i can test gradow

[glass meteor]

Yeah

[tiny blade]

as long as it doesnt involve me actually opening the gam,e

[daring peak]

no sean stream so we have to test installer

[tiny blade]

or my computer will die

[runic oriole]

u don't have to, dlk

do you have vanilla dll?

[glass meteor]

[glass meteor]

Oh I have the dir but not the file

very nice

[runic oriole]

ok dlk

can you please replace your modded dll with that one and run this?

[tiny blade]

everything seems to work

[runic oriole]

gr8

[trim spear]

anyone able to help me with the custom knight mod?

[gloomy crater]

can you be more specific

[trim spear]

like how do i make the knight's custom sprites and insert them

[gloomy crater]

there's a folder named CustomKnight in the Hollow Knight game directory

edit the files inside it

[trim spear]

oh ok

thanks

[real jacinth]

or download premade sprite packs from #archived-modding-development pins

and put them in that folder

[trim spear]

oh

thats easier, thanks

[gloomy crater]

why buy overpriced premades when you can build one yourself

[normal pike]

i need serious help

having big modinstaller issues

https://pastebin.com/0e6nE1YM

modinstaller updates, completes, then gives me this

full error in pastebin

and then this

gonna try a fresh install

[untold elm]

you need to delete all of it then re-install it

[normal pike]

clean install worked

thanks team

[untold elm]

that happened for me too

[normal pike]

by delete all of it

do you mean delete all mods?

[untold elm]

no

just the installer

[runic oriole]

I just updated the installer

please report any issues

[normal pike]

Ah ok