archived-modding-help

[vagrant tangle]

well yeah people playing lifeblood don't generally use debug

[glass meteor]

people playing lifeblood who don't use debug are no

[versed needle]

Yes we get it you're 15

You can stop saying gay now

[glass meteor]

never

[vagrant tangle]

anyway, thanks guys!

[runic oriole]

Np! Anything to get on a Mod's good side

[robust surge]

anyone ever experience the save editor not working?

i double click the .java file a command window quickly opens then nothing.

[astral ore]

guys does anyone have a solution for getting stuck in the ground at the false knight with the boss rush mod ?

[gloomy crater]

wait 11 days

[pseudo cape]

wait 10 days

[crystal bay]

wait 100 days

[tropic sable]

What is Mantis Gods

[versed needle]

It makes mantis lords gooder

For full effect listen to sisters of battle while fighting

[glass meteor]

^

[robust surge]

anyone else have an issue with the save manager not running?

[versed needle]

Install java and/or fix your path variable

[sleek tiger]

@novel bronze hey

How did you install the mods?

Manually or with an installer?

[novel bronze]

installer

so anybody have any idea how to delete mods? they have taken over my hollow knight.

[sleek tiger]

So

You should be able to turn them off throigh the installer

Tho the installer is Gradow's

[runic oriole]

Just uncheck the boxes

[sleek tiger]

And I haven't wirked with it

[runic oriole]

I've never wirked with it either

[sleek tiger]

Making friend plural breaks the 32 char limit

[runic oriole]

Kek

Who maple? I'm not their friend

[sleek tiger]

But they're my friend

[novel bronze]

thanks!

I can finally do damage! Yay!

[novel bronze]

okay, I just played through the game today. can someone tell me how uninstall the modding API?

its increased my damage because I played using bonfire. now I deleted it. it still increases my damage. help?

[runic oriole]

uninstalling the API won't fix it

just start another save without the mod

damage is save-specific

[rare rivet]

Would verifying game integrity force a fresh build to update it? and the mods becoming inactive so to speak

[runic oriole]

wdym

[gloomy crater]

simo is your pfp a gif of the entire Shrek movie

[runic oriole]

it would "uninstall" mods, sure, but saves that have been used with mods will retain any changes

[novel bronze]

aw man. so I have to start an entire game and defeat Hornet at kingdoms edge?

also could someone tell me how to fix my cutscenes? it keeps cutting to black at the beggining

[runic oriole]

you can use debug to reset your damage

[willow bronze]

How hard would it be to make a simple music-replacement mod for hollow knight, as someone who’s never tried to make a mod for anything ever before

[noble basin]

That's completely uncharted territory for the HK modding scene in no small part because we have 0 musicians, but I doubt it would be that tough. Probably p easy actually

[willow bronze]

And where should I go for your intro-level tutorials on the subject

[noble basin]

tutorial videos on modding hollow knight?!

[willow bronze]

Or modding anything really

[sleek tiger]

go to #archived-modding-development

[willow bronze]

Oh, I thought this was the modding help channel

[runic oriole]

it is, but it's more focused towards troubleshooting mod installation and functionality in general

[willow bronze]

Ah gotcha thank you.

[tropic sable]

Any hollow knight de-makes out there?

[glass meteor]

what

[versed needle]

https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/643636

[tropic sable]

Other than hungry knight

[versed needle]

Idk 56 I didn't understand the question either

[tropic sable]

Like hollow knight snes or gb

[glass meteor]

no

[versed needle]

Are you seriously asking if someone has ported hk to snes?

[tropic sable]

A de-make

Not a port

[noble basin]

believe it or not

HK snes exists

[real jacinth]

wtf is a de-make

[noble basin]

it's called Super Metroid

[tropic sable]

Woke

[versed needle]

Idk mick I think nobody knows

Except this guy

[tropic sable]

I meant actually hollow knight

[versed needle]

Ok but what do you mean by demake?

[daring peak]

remake but with a d

[versed needle]

Can you just link the page instead of this crap?

[tropic sable]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideogameDemake

[daring peak]

pretty sure this is just invert knight

[versed needle]

Invert knight but you play at 144p

Done

[tropic sable]

Nooo

[glass meteor]

yes

[tropic sable]

Its not a color change

[noble basin]

this is so sad can we port HK to the game boy color

[versed needle]

Yes we change resolution too

[tropic sable]

A demake is not an only color change

[real jacinth]

play on patch 1.0.0.6

done

[versed needle]

1.0.0.5

[glass meteor]

do this

https://youtu.be/8blpsGsTyWc

ez demake

[real jacinth]

[tropic sable]

You guys dont understand

[noble basin]

if you want a shittier lower res version of the game that's worse in basically every way but is on a portable system play it on the switch

[tropic sable]

Hollow Knight for DS lets say

That would be a demake

Hollow Knight for GBA would be a demake

[real jacinth]

so a port

[tropic sable]

Sure

[lime fog]

56

my eyes

why

[glass meteor]

i have a slightly less ugly one

https://youtu.be/LMMY1z3FcwY

[lime fog]

byt that you mean

higher resolution

[glass meteor]

yes

[lime fog]

still pretty gay tbh

[real jacinth]

MOAR PIXELS

[glass meteor]

you resize the game window really small and then hit alt-enter

ez demake

[tropic sable]

My game runs at 640 x 480 res

[glass meteor]

how do you live

[tropic sable]

That was close to mine tbh

[real jacinth]

[tropic sable]

Very potato pc

I gotta overclock almost all games i get

[real jacinth]

actual rig picture

[tropic sable]

HP laptop 14

1.5 Ghz processor

4gb Ram

[real jacinth]

my toaster is stronger

[noble basin]

I wish HK let you render simple UI and text elements at 1080p while rendering the game at a lower res

[lime fog]

is this u

[tropic sable]

Yes

[glass meteor]

i'm saving that thanks

[tropic sable]

But not vga cable

[noble basin]

that potato has more ram than my computer it feels like

https://youtu.be/LMMY1z3FcwY?t=57 @glass meteor is this in slow motion?

[glass meteor]

no

[noble basin]

ok because both the dash and the firebats feel very slow to me

[glass meteor]

nkg big slow

[noble basin]

must be all the 1.75x speed videos I've watched

[runic oriole]

Ok, asking the obvious, but

Why would there be a demake?

Aside from the graphical redesign, the game would be exactly the same

There are no complicated or innovative gameplay mechanics in HK that wouldn't translate well to say GBC or SNES era

Even going as far back as GB and NES...

I get the point of remaking, say, Metroid Prime in a 2D environment (too bad Nintendo didn't let that one come to fruition)

And I get the point of remaking Metroid 2 in a 3D environment

Those make sense

But remaking HK into a... NES-era game just for the sake of it makes no sense to me

[real jacinth]

the challenge of making it with very limited hardware resources i guess

but you could just remove the background and foreground elements I suppose and boom, you're most of the way there

[runic oriole]

The only thing I'd like to come out of that is the lack of fsm

[noble basin]

I mean HK uses too many buttons for NES or GBC

but it'd be just fine on an SNES

[runic oriole]

Yeah, I guess

You can work around some of it, but not all of it

[real jacinth]

combo buttons

[runic oriole]

Works for spells

Maybe for cdash

But dash...

Could be double tap

Like Kirby

[real jacinth]

double tap directional inputs

[runic oriole]

Yup

[glass meteor]

nail/dash/focus/jump

and then make everything else double taps

ez

[runic oriole]

You can make spells a la Super Metroid, having Select toggle between spells and nail, for instance

That also makes focus work

You can dash with double tap

And for cdash...

[real jacinth]

double tap in the direction of the thing you're super dashing off of

double tap down and hold to charge

[runic oriole]

Could be, yeah

[noble basin]

dash with double tap sounds like a great way to get hit

a lot

esp double tapping the NES controller stick

[runic oriole]

Or even do it Metroid style - charge nail and hold Down for cdash

[noble basin]

that'd work

[runic oriole]

That's a simple enough mod to make, I think

Just rebind stuff

Would make combat and movement godawful, sure, but it would work

[noble basin]

now we need to remix the entire soundtrack to play on the NES soundcard

[runic oriole]

iirc Megaman Zero for GBA also has double tap dash (but it's optional as it's also bound to a button press)

[noble basin]

http://famitracker.com/wiki/index.php?title=Sound_hardware#Internal_2A03.2F2A07_channels wow this is very limiting

2 signal generators with 5 volume levels, 1 triangle exclusive gen with no volume control, a noise generator, and a custom sound player that can only play a maximum of 256KB of stored samples, and that's with trickery because the "normal" limit was 16KB.

[safe canopy]

you'd have to do a lot of weird trickery to even get hk running on a snes

[round wolf]

It's probably possible to do as I've made a game for the snes in c. Music can also be made in a tracker too so it's not too hard, but it's nintendo, so nothings easy

[safe canopy]

im just talking about vram and object limitations

[round wolf]

yeah there's a pretty small sprite limit too

[safe canopy]

its 128

[round wolf]

especially for hd pics

[safe canopy]

nkg spikes would use something like 8x2 per spike, and theres 16 of them

[round wolf]

yeah you'd have to end up like unloading sprites in real time 😂

tbh just pixelate everything into a rectangle

[safe canopy]

unless you wanted to so some weird layer palette stuff

[round wolf]

also theres hardcoded sprite sizes, so youd have to do like 8x16 or 16x8 or something weird like that no 8x2

[safe canopy]

pretty sure its 8x8

snes just has a function for auto creating 16x16 and 32x32 from lines of 8x8

[round wolf]

8x8 16x16 8x16 32x32 64x64, i dont really know theres a table of it somewhere

64x64 was probably a hack tho

[safe canopy]

I imagine a sa1 chip could make it maybe managable

[round wolf]

oh yeah I forgot, depending on the mode is the size of the sprite, so you can only do two sprite sizes at a time

so pretty hard if you're trying to do a boss and spikes and the world at the same time

[safe canopy]

hopefully getting spikes to be hacked in won't be too hard
I wanted them in my quality smw romhack

[noble basin]

since snes carts can have coprossesors attached to them just stick a pi0 on a cart

[safe canopy]

wouldn't really be running it on a snes then would you

although superfx or sa1 would be fine, they are officially sanctioned

[noble basin]

I mean you'd still have to run all the graphics on the SNES graphics thing and the sound on the SNES soundcard but at least you would have enough processing power and ram for all those fsms

[safe canopy]

you can probably just stream audio and vram in hblanks

[waxen thunder]

Hello there! I'm a man trying to get myself the debug mod installed.

I could use a little help 😃

been through a couple tutorials and such, think I got the API mod installed correctly but every time I've started the game... no debug mod.

[gloomy crater]

did you also install the debug mod

[waxen thunder]

I got it figured out actually.

I just installed that handy mod installastion mod xD

[real jacinth]

bet you were trying to pull it directly from the github

like a ton of others

[waxen thunder]

probably.

yeah actually.

[real jacinth]

yeah. that's not the place to get it unless you're going to compile it yourself

[runic oriole]

hey man trying to get yourself the debug mod installed

I assume you got the mod installer, then?

[noble basin]

Hey can someone test launching the modinstaller rn for me?

it doesn't work on my system and either I broke it or I broke it on Linux only.

[tiny blade]

it seems to be broken

[noble basin]

@runic oriole can you look at the new modlinks xml file and tell me how it looks?

where I broke it?

And what I should do to fix it?

[runic oriole]

I'm unable to do it rn

[noble basin]

ook

[runic oriole]

I'm at the hospital with my brother, so won't be able to look at it for a while

[noble basin]

oh no

I hope you and/or him gets better soon

[runic oriole]

Thanks!

AA you can check the history of revisions for the file on gdrive

Would that suffice?

[noble basin]

well I know what I changed but I don't know why it broke them modmanager

It's not a big issue I can revert it for now I guess

[noble basin]

342c342,346
<                                       <SHA1>3a843a5810958dba1846fbb1508c52383caff8a0</SHA1>
---
>                                       <SHA1>1dba5621c16c624ea0d054fbe8511c9181305079</SHA1>
>                               </File>
>                               <File>
>                                       <Name>AAngleRedwingIntegration</Name>
>                                       <SHA1>1411cfd6ae38ab4b2c628b170c3b972814dde7a7</SHA1>
350a355
>                               <string>Redwing Assets</string>
354a360,367
>               </ModLink>
>               <ModLink>
>                       <Name>Redwing Assets</Name><!-- API MOD -->
>                       <Files>
>                       </Files>
>                       <Link><![CDATA[https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1npz6JmSprk9R2qE5hquLAprkiGdWbiRO]]></Link>
>                       <DefaultInstallPath>/</DefaultInstallPath>
>                       <WritesOverAssembly>false</WritesOverAssembly>

this is what I'm trying to add

[round wolf]

isn't it supposed to have a file under files

[noble basin]

files is just for dlls

at least that's how the modinstaller parses it

[gloomy crater]

wow leaked

[round wolf]

lazily debugged with dnspy earlier and it wouldnt breakpoint it

[noble basin]

it's out if you wanna install it manually lol

[round wolf]

you changed it before I could do it in vs

[noble basin]

but until I get it working with modinstaller I'm not announcing it

uh modinstaller is open source if you don't wanna use dnspy

[gloomy crater]

y tf ending 3 triple the length of the other 2 endings

[noble basin]

oh

sorry I can unrevert it and break it for everyone

[round wolf]

it doesn't look like any of the other mods have no files

[noble basin]

no they do but I asked gradow the other week about supporting mods without files

[round wolf]

is redwing infinite double jump or something

[noble basin]

uh, no it's like an actual mod.

[round wolf]

o

thought it would be redswings from terraria

[noble basin]

never played terraria mods

have played terraria

[round wolf]

its not a mod, its an item that only a developer can use unless you edit the game

so kinda

unless you fool it into thinking you have different steam id then its not a mod now is it

[noble basin]

eww it uses steamid?

[gloomy crater]

what version of terraria are you playing on

[round wolf]

this was like years ago

[ivory sun]

yeah it's been changed

dev sets are obtainable in game now

only in expert tho

[round wolf]

not even installed

but anyway I haven't played in a long time, but thats how it used to be

[runic oriole]

nes infinite double jump is actually vanilla

[round wolf]

but then its not double jump now is it

[runic oriole]

You just can't access it normally

[round wolf]

but is it vanilla then?

[runic oriole]

It's in the code

InfiniJump

[round wolf]

so are redswings

nvm

[noble basin]

At this point redwing is a giant crazy mod. Or it just lets you double jump forever. I'm not sure yet.

[round wolf]

well what is it supposed to be

[runic oriole]

Fire moth

[noble basin]

total conversion... I guess

[runic oriole]

Burning insects

[noble basin]

if you can call it that

I'd say it adds abilities but now it adds lore and cutscenes so idk

[runic oriole]

Also, yeah, the Files node in the xml is only for dlls for now

As is the SHA1

But there's no actual restrictions for that

I mean, if they aren't dlls, it won't break or anything

Also, better move this to modding

[noble basin]

ok

[round wolf]

<Dependencies />

[runic oriole]

I'm on mobile, but I'll take a look at the file rq

[noble basin]

ok I updated the one in the drive so it's the "broken" one

[round wolf]

Did you try putting my above line of code xml

[noble basin]

I added a depenencies line and fixed one problem but it still breaks somewhere else

[round wolf]

O nice

'Value cannot be null. Parameter name: source'

[noble basin]

can you try now

[vivid atlas]

Heya

It's me

[tropic sable]

#hk-help please go there and help please

[slim steppe]

exist
(Bonfire Mod) to 1.3.1.5

??

[glass meteor]

yes

[slim steppe]

Where can I find?

[glass meteor]

installer, first pin

[runic oriole]

oh

[novel bronze]

how do I increase my damge by just one?

[glass meteor]

save editor

[noble basin]

you don't

[novel bronze]

?

[noble basin]

it's in increments of 4

if you want just one more damage you'd have to write your own mod

[glass meteor]

save editor

.

[novel bronze]

yes but I got an error so now I permanently have lower damage

[glass meteor]

can u

second pin

kdt's save editor

h

[novel bronze]

ok

what do I do now?

[glass meteor]

edit the damage

what

[novel bronze]

no which option?

zip or tar

[glass meteor]

.jar

[slim steppe]

good afternoon
How do you get one (modd) and install another one?

[noble basin]

[slim steppe]

Eu quero remover o (BonfireMod)

[runic oriole]

do you want to uninstall it or just disable it?

wait wtf

[slim steppe]

I want to use another modd

[noble basin]

you aren't limited to only using one mod at a time

[runic oriole]

use the left checkboxes to enable/disable and the right ones to install/uninstall

also that

[slim steppe]

thank you

❤

[runic oriole]

eww

we don't want love here

we only want tears and suffering

that's why we mod

[slim steppe]

O.o

[slim steppe]

help

[glass meteor]

go to the place it said

and then send a picture

[slim steppe]

does not exist

[glass meteor]

where is your hollow knight

[slim steppe]

C:\Hollow Knight

[glass meteor]

did you move it

also 44 pings wtf

[slim steppe]

?

[noble basin]

you selected the wrong folder for hollow knight

it should be C:\Hollow Knight

[glass meteor]

your hk directory wasn't there yesterday iirc

[slim steppe]

I'll install everything again

[noble basin]

no just in the modmanager pick choose different folder

[glass meteor]

Change default install path to be t🅱h

[slim steppe]

ontem estava em HD

today is on SSD

[gloomy crater]

big portugal

or brazil idk

[slim steppe]

Brasil

Which is the hardest?

[noble basin]

Hellmod is pretty hard.

[slim steppe]

what he does ?

[glass meteor]

mantis gods and lost lord are hard I'd say

[noble basin]

Infinite Grimm's NGG is pretty hard, only one person having beaten it best I can tell

[slim steppe]

Can I install all of them? Is it active what I want to use?

[glass meteor]

you can do them all at once yeah

whatever is checked on the left panel is active

[noble basin]

except the ones that don't work on lifeblood. there are 3 such mods I believe and imo they should be removed from the modinstaller

HPBar (obsolete, EnemyHPBars), Nightmare God Grimm (obsolete, InfiniteGrimm), and BossRush (obsolete in 7 days when godmaster comes out)

[runic oriole]

Also, not to be mean, but one of your pics suggests it's a pirate copy

[noble basin]

no it's ok they have Kaspersky, the greatest and most secure antivirus since mcafee

[slim steppe]

😄

[runic oriole]

sigh

[crystal bay]

I had never heard of Kaspersky before

[slim steppe]

Which antivirus do you use?

[real jacinth]

Common sense

[crystal bay]

I dont use any antivirus

not even windows defender

which is annoying because microsoft keeps enabling it

[waxen thunder]

So.... bosh rush

how does it work?

[gloomy crater]

find out august 23

[waxen thunder]

oh so currently it doesn't work?

[gloomy crater]

you can downpatch and it'll work

[real jacinth]

I added exceptions to all my drives in defender

So now it's on, but can't run on anything

[slim steppe]

is there any modd that adds new maps or bos?

[noble basin]

no

[versed needle]

What's a bo?

[gloomy crater]

the answer's somewhere in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ1X7qc9sSs

[real jacinth]

A shortened version of a scary word

[glass meteor]

boot

[pseudo cape]

why do those exist

[real jacinth]

Boots? They're comfortable and great for manufacturing environments

[void leaf]

Hey guys, where are the download links for the mods? I clicked into the pinned post at modding but only got a list of 'em...

I would be pretty thankful if somebody could help´me with this one.

[crystal bay]

API Mod Installer and Manager

-- This application trivializes the already trivial installation method of API mods for the game.

-- Use the right checkboxes to install/uninstall mods, and the left checkboxes to enable/disable installed mods.

-- When installing a mod which has a dependency on other mods, the installer should ask to also install those dependencies. Please be aware that if you choose to not do so, the mod might not work and the game might crash.

https://github.com/Ayugradow/ModInstaller/releases/download/v7.6.1/ModInstaller.exe

First comment pinned

[void leaf]

Thanks bruv

[crystal bay]

You are welcome

[pliant sluice]

for some reason the mod managaer wont let me uninstall mods anymore

im trying to clikc the checked boxes but they're gray and nothing happens

[runic oriole]

check your install paths

[waxen surge]

so i'm dungo and hid the debug menu and since i'm dungo i don't know how to pull it back up

[glass meteor]

f1

[waxen surge]

thanks for your help

[karmic bronze]

So I got 2 question

1____ For some reason the Mod installers will not let me uninstall mods anymore. Ill let me turn them off but not uninstall.....so is there a reason for this change in the programs actions?

2_____i get this error with the redwing mod and its not working because of it:

[ERROR]:[API] - Error: System.Reflection.ReflectionTypeLoadException: The classes in the module cannot be loaded.
at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.Reflection.Assembly:GetTypes (bool)
at System.Reflection.Assembly.GetTypes () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at redwing.redwing+<>c.<Initialize>b__11_8 (System.Reflection.Assembly assembly) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at System.Linq.Enumerable+<CreateSelectManyIterator>c__Iterator14`3

[noble basin]

oh crud can you send the whole modlog

[karmic bronze]

If any help can be lent id greatly appreicate it.

[noble basin]

that would help me figure out why you're getting that error

[karmic bronze]

You want me to copy and paste it here !? or try and upload the file?

[noble basin]

upload the file

[noble basin]

oh no I'm worried something changed with blackmoth to break it with redwing, seems like a bug I'm gonna have to fix but until then the two won't work together

thanks for letting me know

[karmic bronze]

Cool, probably better to wait till next week after God and Glory tho

[noble basin]

wut no this is like a 1 hour fix

[karmic bronze]

oh lol

[noble basin]

can you tell me your blackmoth version? @karmic bronze

like what it says in the top left

[karmic bronze]

1.7.2

[noble basin]

ok well I think I know why I can try to fix give me a sec

ok try launching the modinstaller and updating

it should fix it in theory

[karmic bronze]

ok you do you, fix today, next week, next month, just take your time. Im just grateful to have people supporting this game period. Thank you

[noble basin]

it works for me but I'm not 100% if it will work for you

[karmic bronze]

Idk lol my mod installer doesnt have an update feature.....

[noble basin]

when you run the program it should say that redwing has an update

does it not?

[karmic bronze]

Give a minute or two

not it doesnt

[noble basin]

uh weird, could you try downloading the newest version of the modinstaller in the pins and see if that does

[karmic bronze]

ill do that

[noble basin]

yeah ok because I just updated it to 1.1.5 to see if that might fix it

[karmic bronze]

Yes it worked and Fixed the unable to uninstall issues as well. Thank you so much

[noble basin]

[karmic bronze]

Also like the new flame for the shield in stead of that oval shield.

[noble basin]

You can thank @sleek tiger for that :)

[karmic bronze]

@sleek tiger thanx, cheers

[main tulip]

hey anyone have a link to the latest bossrush mod?

[glass meteor]

bossrush won't work unless you're downpatched

wasn't updated cause gdm

[main tulip]

I havent got the steam version so Im not sure if I can downgrade

[real jacinth]

Boss rush comes out with godmaster in 5 days

[main tulip]

cannnt waiit

need

although thats probably a good point

[glass meteor]

downpatch

buy the steam version then downpatch

ez

[real jacinth]

GOG has native downpatching through galaxy

[main tulip]

I already have 2 copies of the game

Id still have to buy it again on galaxy right?

[glass meteor]

no galaxy is just a client for gog

[real jacinth]

What copies do you have if not GOG or steam

[glass meteor]

https://www.gog.com/galaxy

[real jacinth]

Must be pirate

[main tulip]

humblebundle & switch

[real jacinth]

Humble bundle sells the GOG version

[main tulip]

oh nice

what account is it attached to then?

I need one to use the program

[noble basin]

you login to your account that owns the game

[main tulip]

right but I dont have a GOG account

[noble basin]

you literally cannot buy games on GOG without one

put forgot my password and put the email you bought it with

[main tulip]

I got it off of humble and it looks like this

Im doubting its a gog game tbh

[noble basin]

humble comes with steam keys

login to your humble account

and redeem it as a steam key

humble is not gog tho

[sleek tiger]

hey

[glass meteor]

h(ey)

[tiny blade]

hey

[sleek tiger]

anyone have a screenshot of the recoloured Grimmchild from GrimmchildUpgrades?

[noble basin]

I'll take one tomorrow if you remind me

[sleek tiger]

Ok

[noble basin]

what color do you want

[glass meteor]

#fffff

[noble basin]

nice 5 digit color

[glass meteor]

thanks i worked hard on it

[sleek tiger]

Uhh

some dark red probablu

[jagged jacinth]

so i deleted the debug mod but i'm still able to jump infinite times. i have tired uninstalling the game and done the file integrity thing

[versed needle]

Reinstall the mod and disable it

Infinite jump is a normally inaccessible dev cheat in the base game

So you don't need any mods for it to keep working

[jagged jacinth]

it doesn't show up in the mod menu in game

[versed needle]

If it's not there how did you even enable it in the first place?

[jagged jacinth]

i just installed it and i can just use it

idk how and why

[versed needle]

Ok well you must've forgotten enabling it

It's under the cheats submenu

[jagged jacinth]

(god i'm probably super annoying)

where is the cheats menu

[versed needle]

Top right

Press F1 if you have no menus

[versed needle]

That menu is for mods which implement a way to be toggled

You will have to go in game to see the debug mod features

[jagged jacinth]

yeah i just did it

for some reason i thought the cheats menu would in the main meu

Thank you, now my game should work normally

[little elm]

how do I download ModCommon from github?

I'm as confused as I can be right now

there are no releases

instructions unclear

no download button

halp

Im stoopid

[versed needle]

Use the installer in the pinned messages

[main tulip]

Ive been messing around with the nightmare god grimm mod and I decided to download the debug mod to help me skip the troupe leader to vs grimm instead. Since tthen the NGG mod doesnt seem to work at all, NKG appears normally even though the mod still says it's installed

I removed the debug mod and it hasnt changed anything

any ideas?

[sleek tiger]

@main tulip NGG mod is outdated and doesn't work

there is an NGG mode in the options of IG

[main tulip]

the troupe leader fight was godmode for a while lol

whats IG?

[sleek tiger]

Infinite Grimm (by Avenging Angle)

and yes, the troupe leader fight isn't broken for some reason

[main tulip]

alright I found it

thanks 👍🏻

[sleek tiger]

if you have problems turning NGG mode on tell me

[main tulip]

is downloading this one supposed to be the same as all the others? Just pop the .dll in

Im getting a FAILED TO LOAD error

[sleek tiger]

huh?

Modcommon?

[main tulip]

Im just putting the .dll in hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods

still talking about infinite grimm if that wasnt clear

[glass meteor]

@main tulip

you also need ModCommon installed to use infinite grimm

[main tulip]

hm can't install it. I think I need the steam version for it to work

I might just buy it at this point tbh

[glass meteor]

wdym can't install it?

[main tulip]

the bat file fails

says cant find location

[glass meteor]

no stop

[main tulip]

ok

[glass meteor]

That's the source code

unless you want to compile it yourself, you shouldn't be using that

[main tulip]

lol

[glass meteor]

I'd recommend using the installer https://github.com/Ayugradow/ModInstaller/releases/download/v7.6.1/ModInstaller.exe

if you want to install them manually tho, the compiled versions are in the gdrive (pins)

[main tulip]

ok its installed and IG isnt coming up with an error

except grimm doesnt seem to be any different

[glass meteor]

ig affects nkg

[main tulip]

except it isnt so Ive done something wrong

[glass meteor]

you've just got infinite grimm and modcommon, right?

[main tulip]

yep

[glass meteor]

have you killed nkg

[main tulip]

not on this save

[glass meteor]

it doesn't do anything till after you've killed nkg

[main tulip]

oooh

thanks dude

sorry for my incompetence

[glass meteor]

yw

[main tulip]

so how do I activate nightmare god?

[glass meteor]

config file in saves folder

[main tulip]

I dont see one

[main tulip]

uhh what do I edit?

[glass meteor]

so you'd want the 4th value as true

[main tulip]

oh rightio

ty

Im viewing this in notepad so it isnt very pretty

[lime fog]

Nice editing

[glass meteor]

thanks

[lime fog]

I wonder how you’ll do in scribbleio

[low heart]

do yourself a favor and get notepad++

or vim

if you want that extra edge

[glass meteor]

emacs

[low heart]

emacs looks nice too

[lime fog]

is there a proper calculation to the movement speed increase when combining sprintmaster with dashmaster?

[safe canopy]

you mean you want the values?

its 11.4% iirc

[lime fog]

yeah thnx

[safe canopy]

8% with just sprintmaster

[lusty loom]

okay so I'm trying to do the modding api thing

and I keep getting "unhandled exception"

[noble basin]

uh your computer permissions are messed up if that's the error you're getting @lusty loom and the best fix might be to run the modinstaller as admin

well actually that's not a good fix but it's an EASY fix

[lusty loom]

okay lemme see

there we go

so the path I have to select is just the folder that contains the data and exe file right

for some reason it didn't have a default path set or something so I had to manually select it

seems to be working now

though every other time I launch the game it just closes but that might be because of my toaster laptop

thanks man

[karmic bronze]

is the lightbringer mod handled here? I found a bug.

[runic oriole]

sure

there are lots of bugs in lightbringer

but that's kinda the point

[sleek tiger]

there are a lot of bugs in the game in general

hahaha funny joke

[runic oriole]

inb4 it's not a bug at all, but intended behaviour

[noble basin]

intended behavior = bug you don't wanna fix

[runic oriole]

pretty much

like grubberfly

[karmic bronze]

lol, Well i noticed that you cant get money back from the banker because you can only hit her once.

[runic oriole]

wut

[karmic bronze]

yep....IDK

[runic oriole]

can't you hit her with the nail normally?

[noble basin]

try downslash

aka pogo slash

enlist grimmchild to help collect your payments

[karmic bronze]

The up nail pass through her and the down doesnt hurt her

[runic oriole]

did you try dynamite?

[karmic bronze]

Its not and issues for me just thought id let someone know

lol

[noble basin]

in all seriousness sounds like weird storage/NRE/reflection exception that may be fixed by just quitting to menu and loading. Make a dream gate there first so you don't have to walk back

[runic oriole]

^

or it's tink again

[karmic bronze]

nope doesnt work

[real jacinth]

giving money to the banker. kek

[runic oriole]

like that vanilla dash bug

tbh I didn't even meet millie my first playthrough

and I got true end

[noble basin]

my first time through I gave money to millie just to see what would happen, I had a feeling she'd scam me because she seemed sus af

but I only gave her around 2700 before forgetting about her

so she never ran away and I only came back after basically getting 107%

I also thought she'd be like the fountain where you unlocked something by giving her 4500

[main tulip]

anyone got an easier version of mantis gods floating around?

[glass meteor]

re

[main tulip]

I gave up when they multiplied

[crystal bay]

just give yourself infinite health

[low heart]

or a 3000 damage nail

[sleek tiger]

or devour DLK's soul to gain their endless skill

[tiny blade]

excuse me i would like to keep my soul thank you very much

[sleek tiger]

well I would like to take it and you're not gonna stop me

[trail flint]

yeah hes right, unless youre given the offer to sell your soul to rename it back to gng then i think it would be pretty worth it

[tiny blade]

you can have it but you need to ask nicely

[sleek tiger]

DLK, can I please have your soul

[tiny blade]

sure just take it

[sleek tiger]

here, have mine instead

wait

I don't have one

[civic holly]

hm

[tiny blade]

how do i unbind the increase/decrease timescale keys in debug mod

[glass meteor]

get rid of the bindings in the json in your saves folder

[tiny blade]

what number do i use though

[glass meteor]

?

you just

erase it

[tiny blade]

ok

it worked thank you

[glass meteor]

yw

[twin flicker]

Did i just get pinged

[runic oriole]

@celest meadow still need help with mods?

[glass meteor]

once you open the installer and select the dir

check the empty boxes

then just open your game

[runic oriole]

56 why are you going through an identity crisis?

[glass meteor]

idk

it's just what i do

[runic oriole]

imo be a better number

[celest meadow]

Thanks but I figured it out

[runic oriole]

great!

also why can't you uninstall ANY mods 56?

oh, you have like an ancient ver of the installer

[glass meteor]

updating is illegal

[runic oriole]

not where I'm from m8

get better laws

[noble basin]

infinitegrimm(3) is the best version anyway

[glass meteor]

not wrong there

[runic oriole]

you ver won't even auto-update mods

such a scrub

[noble basin]

it was all downhill after infinitegrimm(4)

[glass meteor]

but it does

🤔

[noble basin]

hey gradow you should make the modinstaller auto update itself.

[runic oriole]

does it have the button to re-select install path?

[glass meteor]

also updated

uhhh

[runic oriole]

not a bad idea, AA

[glass meteor]

yeah

it did

[runic oriole]

hm...

[glass meteor]

new version works tho

i've got uninstall and stuff

[runic oriole]

k

[glass meteor]

@wild ice is this u

[dire pebble]

I've installed the new randomizer mode, but when I open the game, The main menu comes up, but with no options. anyone seen this?

[runic oriole]

show screenshot

are you using the randomizer2.0?

are you using the installer?

[dire pebble]

2.0

I copied the files into place

[versed needle]

Probably need modcommon

[dire pebble]

where is that?

[runic oriole]

use installer

also why not screenshot

[dire pebble]

It was quicker. i can make a SS if it helps

[runic oriole]

nah

[dire pebble]

there isnt much there to work with lol

[runic oriole]

it's good

get the installer from pins

I assume you're running 1.3.1.5

[dire pebble]

yeah

[runic oriole]

just use the installer then

should be pretty straight-forward

[dire pebble]

ok. i got mods running through the installed. but now, my dpad isnt working. up and down go left and right and left and right do nothing. bizarre

[versed needle]

In game or in menus?

[dire pebble]

both

[versed needle]

Alright idk then

[runic oriole]

never heard of it

sometimes gamepads simply don't work at all

but never seen it just swap axis

[dire pebble]

i'm gonna reinstall. maybe something weird happened with me copying files then installing over them

[runic oriole]

as soon as AA comes back and gives me write permission, I'm gonna update the installer to auto-update itself

[dire pebble]

reinstalled. tried with just the api and modcommon. still happening :/

[runic oriole]

do you have beta controller support enabled in the options menu?

[dire pebble]

I do now. That made it completely lose my controller

[runic oriole]

hm

try enabling steam controller

[dire pebble]

in steam?

[runic oriole]

yup

[dire pebble]

i got it working on my switch controller. that's somethin!

[velvet tartan]

how do u uninstall the api

[runic oriole]

verify integrity on steam

[velvet tartan]

and how do u do that

[runic oriole]

[velvet tartan]

i did it

im smart

[noble basin]

Hey @runic oriole I fixed it I'm so sorry about that for some reason it changed the permissions on it in a way it shouldn't have, but no matter. I have made it so it won't do it in the future in theory and also fixed it so you should be able to update it now

[old imp]

Hello! Ive got my hollow knight mods and the api thing, but when i click on my Mods in hollow knight none of them are there, can you help me out

?

[old imp]

Like, it shows that the API is installed in the top left, but when i go into the mods section there is nothing

[runic oriole]

that section is basically useless

use top-left to see what is installed

[dire pebble]

how do i set redwing to hard mode?

[noble basin]

Edit Redwing.settings.json which is located where your save files are

is the 5th option "handicapAllNonFireAttacks"

dunno that it makes the game that much harder but it probably should bring it to about as hard as vanilla hk

[dire pebble]

thank you!

Do I just delete the quotes around it?

[sleek tiger]

Ok

[dire pebble]

nvm found it

[sleek tiger]

so, you pick the save file you want to edit your notches on (user1 or UseeData1 or something like that I'm on mobile can't check)

[old imp]

Alright

user4.dat?

[sleek tiger]

yeah

[sleek tiger]

now, using the editor make it a .json file (should be called decoded.json) and open it (if you don't have what to open it with on your PC google .json editor online there's probably some online reader and editor)

[versed needle]

Why wouldn't you want to open a plain text file?

[sleek tiger]

-^("/ )^-

I mean I just use the default thing that makes it a .json and edit whatever I need from that .json

[versed needle]

What the fuck is that?

[old imp]

Is it a website or do i have to download it

[sleek tiger]

website probably

[old imp]

Im on the Json website

[sleek tiger]

so, the save itself contains lots of info regarding basically everything, but the charm notches are pretty early on

(open the json with it)

[old imp]

Im trying to figure out how to convert it, hang on. Im a noob in tech stuff

[sleek tiger]

convert it to json?

[old imp]

Mhm

[sleek tiger]

there should be an option on the save editor page?

[old imp]

Im seeing that.

[versed needle]

prtscr

[sleek tiger]

https://bloodorca.github.io/hollow/

[noble basin]

ytho

I mean it's useful but it's literally just a decrypter and a json formatter.

[sleek tiger]

that's pretty much what I do

[old imp]

Sandpapers, is that a problem with my internet or is that link just a blank page...

[sleek tiger]

I find it easier to find the text, read "Charm Notches: X" and change the X

[noble basin]

it's not a blank page

[old imp]

Its an internet issue then

Darn

There we go

ive got it

Alright, ive got that file you sent in the link

What do i do with it, this is very confusing. Im probably just super dumb

[sleek tiger]

you have the .json?

[old imp]

I have the https://bloodorca.github.io/hollow/

'hollow master'

[sleek tiger]

did you put your User4.dat into it?

there should be a decode to .json option

[old imp]

My pc wont let me open any of the files in it

[sleek tiger]

huh?

[noble basin]

ugh next time take a screenshot of your keyboard

[normal pike]

How does sound in HK and similar programs work? Is it a certain file type?

And if so is it possible to replace it with other files of the same type if you wanted your own music to play

[glass meteor]

it's in the assets

and yes

[normal pike]

Is it like

.mp4

Dumb guess but my best one

[glass meteor]

idk

[normal pike]

Ok

[glass meteor]

.wav

[normal pike]

Does visual studio let you get them

[real jacinth]

There's a guide on how to do what you're asking in #archived-modding-development pins

[normal pike]

Ok thanks

[tame jetty]

How do i install Lightbringer?

[glass meteor]

https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe

open it

check the lightbringer box

[tame jetty]

It says Invalid Operation

[glass meteor]

show picture to be tbh

also do you have hk open

if you do can u don't

[tame jetty]

I dont have HK opened

and i have my PC in spanish

i dont think you Will be able to understand

[glass meteor]

show pic anyway

[tame jetty]

Ok wait

[noble basin]

wow you don't think highly of 56

[glass meteor]

[noble basin]

run it as an admin

it means your permissions are broken

[tame jetty]

Worked

thanks boi

What is enemy randomizer?

U can summon enemies?

[noble basin]

no it randomizes the enemies that appear

and also it requires 12GB of ram and 3GB of vram so hope you have a very beefy pc

[tame jetty]

lUL

What is Lost Lord?

[noble basin]

there's descriptions of what all the mods do in pins

[glass meteor]

not lost lord to be tbh

it's a buff to lost kin

after you beat him dnail him again

[tame jetty]

Where ? I cant find it

Can i use Boss Rush or is not compatible with Lifeblood?

[noble basin]

no it's the only mod that isn't obsolete that doesn't work on lifeblood

[tame jetty]

I am confused, did you say yes or no?

[noble basin]

All of the mods in the installer work with lifeblood except: HPBar (obsolete, EnemyHPBars), Nightmare God Grimm (obsolete, InfiniteGrimm), and BossRush (obsolete in 3 days when godmaster comes out)

[tame jetty]

EnemyHPBar and Infinigrimm can be used right?

[noble basin]

yes

those are the mods that replace the old ones that aren't updated

[tame jetty]

Wtf

I have became a Shade for a moment

i mean

my character was all black

[glass meteor]

56 geo

[tame jetty]

What the fuck?

[tiny blade]

she has a heart on her forehead

she cant be a hard boss right

you should fight her

[noble basin]

well not for you.

[daring peak]

kuro did you beat flukemarm

[tiny blade]

no fuckl that

ill keep trying until gm comes out but it wont happen

[daring peak]

but its a whole $5

[tiny blade]

true

[tame tulip]

lmao

[glass meteor]

it's 10 dollars now

[tame jetty]

My PC Crashed and deleted the savefile with Lightbringer

wtf

[glass meteor]

f

[heavy root]

[noble basin]

there's probably a backup save you can copy over

[potent atlas]

56 what did you put in Lightbringer that deletes saves lmao

is this a hell mod feature?

[glass meteor]

[untold elm]

how do I edit saves?

[versed needle]

📌

[untold elm]

k

[frank pecan]

so totally new to hollow knight modding, any recommendations for mods to use going back again other then the randomizers?

[daring peak]

guys i need help with mossing

how do i moss

[tame tulip]

do not

[sleek tiger]

cover yourself with leaves and hide in the greenery

pop out when somebody approaches

and start casually crawling around

[potent atlas]

I recommend Lightbringer :)

[trail flint]

P l a y L i g h t b r i n g e r

[daring peak]

wheres rainbow check

are you the 56 think of checks

[lime raft]

i thought your name was a link

[willow viper]

hey all i been playing the randomizer mod and i think i am stuck in the lake of unn with no way out as i don't have the ledge jump ability. did i just screw my self over?

[sleek tiger]

where exactly are you?

[willow viper]

in the room with the big slug

[sleek tiger]

didn't quitting to the main screen and startinf again work?

[willow viper]

haven't tried that, just started panicing

it worked thanks.

[sleek tiger]

Ok, glad I could help!

Lots of Luck in your playthrough

[main tulip]

Enemy randomizer mod doesn't work

is anything else required to get it running?

[INFO]:[API] - Adding GitHub SSL Cert to Allow for Checking of Mod Versions
[INFO]:[ModManager] - Initializing
[INFO]:[ModManager] - Initialized
[ERROR]:[API] - Couldn't check for new version.System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Array index is out of range.
at Modding.ModHooks..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
[INFO]:GameLoading
[INFO]:[API] - Trying to load mods
[ERROR]:[API] - Error: System.Reflection.ReflectionTypeLoadException: The classes in the module cannot be loaded.
at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.Reflection.Assembly:GetTypes (bool)
at System.Reflection.Assembly.GetExportedTypes () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Modding.ModLoader.LoadMods () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
[INFO]:Saving Global Settings
[INFO]:Saving Global Settings

[glass meteor]

ModCommon

[main tulip]

rightio thanks

[runic oriole]

@frank pecan try lightbringer, blackmoth, redwing for new experiences

IG, Mantis Gods and Lost God for improved versions of certain bosses

QoL and Enemyhpbar for quality of life

And charming for lulz

[frank pecan]

👍

[stiff trench]

Is there a list of mods working on the latest patch?

Downloaded the Mod Manager! Any page that says what each mod does?

[sleek tiger]

Readmes?

[real jacinth]

second pin?

[stiff trench]

sorry?

...

[real jacinth]

📌

[stiff trench]

I know but

[stiff trench]

nevermind

thanks

[trim crescent]

hey im trying to play hollow knight modded but the game crashes and even when i uninstalled the mods it still crashed

what did i do wrong?

[glass meteor]

idk

verify game integrity

[trim crescent]

k

hey now i can play my game

let me see if the game still crashes after installing mods

nope game still crashes after installing mods

what am i doing wrong to cause my mods to crash my game

[versed needle]

Based one what you've told us about your install process

Which is literally nothing

Use the installer

[trim crescent]

thats what im using

[versed needle]

What version are you on?

[trim crescent]

im on the public beta version of the game

thats been released

[versed needle]

Use the non-beta

[trim crescent]

k

hey

its working

thank you seanpr

[nova meadow]

Hey, is there a known issue with the Item Randomizer and Soul Master? The game keeps crashing when I enter his room. I also have the HP Bars mod installed, but I've entered the room and fought the boss just fine several times before.

[versed needle]

Send your output_log.txt from the game folder and modlog.txt from the saves folder

[real jacinth]

Hp bars mod is obsolete

Need the enemyhpbar mod

[versed needle]

Yeah ok not my problem

@runic oriole

[nova meadow]

Oh rats, that might be a newer modlog file

if needed I can replicate the crash

[runic oriole]

uhh

I've fought him with enemyhpbars before

[nova meadow]

As have I, and it worked just fine.

[runic oriole]

which version of the randomizer are you using?

[nova meadow]

This is entirely random, and I'd wager to guess that the randomizer gave him an item that's bugging out

[real jacinth]

Do you have hp bars tho or enemy hp bars

[nova meadow]

2b.5

[runic oriole]

enemyhpbars, mick

[nova meadow]

EnemyHPBar

[runic oriole]

it's on the modlog

[real jacinth]

Kk

I'm on mobile

[runic oriole]

np

[real jacinth]

So can't open the logs

[runic oriole]

uhh is it randomizer or randomizer2.0?

because the first is broken iirc

[real jacinth]

2b.5 is 2.0

[versed needle]

2.0 beta 5

[nova meadow]

It should be 2.0

[runic oriole]

dunno then

[versed needle]

The output_log is showing index out of range exceptions from an fsm

[nova meadow]

So did I goof something in the initial settings, or does the randomizer require you to collect all major items/nail arts before entering the Black Egg?

[versed needle]

If you've got the all skills restriction on it does

[nova meadow]

Ah, my fault then. Darn.

[grand hollow]

How can I mod the game into thinking I've completed the flower quest and giving me that final mask shard?

[daring peak]

just do the flower quest

[grand hollow]

Not having this shit, came into the modding channel to get help with mods, not to get told to not use mods

I've done the quest on 2 saves, and I'm not in the mood for it

[daring peak]

cheese it

[grand hollow]

How?

[real jacinth]

debug mod invulnerability

[runic oriole]

^

[real jacinth]

or dream gate storage

or save file edit

[runic oriole]

debug mod is easier

[daring peak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlCsp9YbT9s

[grand hollow]

pretty sure dream gating breaks the flower right?

[real jacinth]

wow all that wasted run back time

could have just save quit

[grand hollow]

Ohhhh

[real jacinth]

dream gate storage

it's a glitch