hk-help

[supple mountain]

also spoiler messages you wouldn't want a beginner seeing by using || on both sides of spoiler

above the enter key on QWERTY layouts

or on mobile its in the #?!

[honest junco]

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

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[supple mountain]

also click the eye in the corner for pc or hold on it on mobile to spoiler the image

[turbid bridge]

i cant send a pic

picture

[honest junco]

@turbid bridge

[supple mountain]

how many masks do you have

[honest junco]

krl alerta de br

[turbid bridge]

6

[supple mountain]

uhh you could beat the boss but it would be hard

[turbid bridge]

i know

that why i need help

[supple mountain]

do you want help with the fight?

[turbid bridge]

no

become stronger

[supple mountain]

go to wherever there's an open-ended path on your map

[uncut iris]

Did you do skips

[honest junco]

you still have so much to upgrade, keep exploring

[supple mountain]

often you'll find upgrades

[uncut iris]

Players would normally need ||wings|| to reach ||lurien||

[turbid bridge]

i think one

[uncut iris]

Yeah

[supple mountain]

no he is IN the temple

[uncut iris]

I would assume people doing skips would know how to fight ||hollow knight||

i would go to ||basin|| for ||pale ore||

[turbid bridge]

i am trying to get ||wings||

[uncut iris]

||shade soul kills broken vessel really fast if you spam it at midrange for double hits, use shaman stone||

[honest junco]

go back to the ||seer ||in ||resting grounds||, you have enough ||essence ||for a reward

a big one

[supple mountain]

i don't think he knows what some of those words mean

[turbid bridge]

yes

[turbid bridge]

yes

[supple mountain]

send map

[honest junco]

holy shit

youve been everywhere

[uncut iris]

Everywhere but having nothing

Im impressed

[honest junco]

and didnt get a single ||pale ore||

[supple mountain]

erm actually he hasnt been everywhere

[turbid bridge]

i dont know what im doing in this game

[uncut iris]

No way this is your first playthrough

[turbid bridge]

hes right

[turbid bridge]

yes

[uncut iris]

The ||lurien skip|| isnt something you’d find out easily

Performing it isnt hard but you need to know about it

[honest junco]

bro missed EVERYTHING

[turbid bridge]

i can say that my friend told me this skip but

[turbid bridge]

i know

[uncut iris]

You got past ||watcher knights|| im sure ||the hollow knight|| isnt hard

Just use ||spells||

compensates for your low nail damage

[honest junco]

go back and explore those areas again

[uncut iris]

I said KNOW about it

[supple mountain]

i've seen people do it accidentally by messing around

[uncut iris]

You have to know that:
||the object is pogoable||
||highest jump, dash input into wall jump||
||the skip even exists||

[supple mountain]

new players

yes they got lucky but still

[uncut iris]

Yadda yadda

[honest junco]

lol

[turbid bridge]

wht should i do?

what

[honest junco]

bro everything

[turbid bridge]

what is everything?

[uncut iris]

Do you want to beat the game right now

[turbid bridge]

no

[uncut iris]

Okay then just explore

[honest junco]

you somehow got almost every map and managed to miss every upgrade

[uncut iris]

Particularly ||ancient basin where you missed monarch wings||

[turbid bridge]

should i focus on something?

[uncut iris]

And a ||pale ore||

[uncut iris]

This

[honest junco]

what shouldn't you focus on

go back to the ||seer||

[uncut iris]

One of the last needed mobility upgrades to explore even more

[honest junco]

get her reward

[turbid bridge]

where i find the ||seer||

and the ||pale ore||

[fossil grove]

Which one

[uncut iris]

||resting grounds, seer gives pale ore, but the one in ancient basin is to the left of the tram||

[fossil grove]

Nvm

[turbid bridge]

ok i will try

[honest junco]

||terra do descanso|| @turbid bridge

[turbid bridge]

you speak portuguese?

[honest junco]

sim kk

[turbid bridge]

podia ter falado antes

[honest junco]

i said it here 😭

[turbid bridge]

meu amigo me avisou que eu basecamente perdi o jogo todo

eu nao vi

[royal hull]

The server is Englisu only pretty sure

[honest junco]

lets go in dms

[turbid bridge]

ok sorry

sure

[fossil grove]

GUUYS

QUINWA

WITH FISH

AND CARROTS

ITS LIFE CHANGING

[merry kiln]

👍 little hint go to the #off-topic Channel, but I'll go grab some quinwa later

[fossil grove]

Ok

[sonic arch]

how many ||hornet fights|| are there

[light totem]

||2||

[white matrix]

I need help knowing how to get here in ||the leftmost part of the bottom of Greenpath||

I died here to this ||Mosscreep|| and for some reason ||my shade appeared over there|| and I don't know how to get there

I have 2k geo on the line 😭

[slow bloom]

Whats harder? ||radiant troupe master Grimm or base nkg (having to use grimmchild)||?

[light totem]

||I haven't seen this happen before, but unfortunately I don't think it's possible to get it back anytime soon. Have you visited the building to the right of dirtmouth though?||

[white matrix]

The ||Black Egg Temple||? Or the part with the ||singing bug mining crystals||, cuz I've seen the first one but ||haven't gone past the second, like where the ground shakes but doesn't break||

[light totem]

No no not those, I mean ||the building all the way to the right of dirtmouth. Not down the well, but on the opposite side of the king's pass||

[slow bloom]

Not thru any loading zones

[white matrix]

Oooooooooh the one that ||requires the simple key||

Yeah, I can also ||buy the key from the bug behind elder bug||

Do I just go there?

[light totem]

Yeah that! For your situation I really recommend opening it

[white matrix]

Is is gonna be enemy hard or platforming hard?

[slow bloom]

You won't die

If that's what you mean

[white matrix]

Ok

cuz 2k geo are on the line

wait

I can't ||buy tthe key then||...

[light totem]

Oof...

[slow bloom]

Yeah I was just gonna ask that lol

[white matrix]

MY FREAKING ||SHADE HAS ALL MY GEO|| 😭 😭 😭

I gotta farm and risk death...............

[light totem]

If you're willing to grind the geo (without dying) somewhere easy like the ||crossroads||, I would say it's worth it, but other than that there aren't any options :(

[white matrix]

ooof

And with 2/3 of my Soul as well..........

Oh but he's haard..

Imma try tho

If it means getting my riches back

[slow bloom]

Where'd u even die?

[ruby folio]

There is a way to ||retrieve your shade|| without having to trek back, do you want to know what it is?

[white matrix]

Yeah

[slow bloom]

We already to him about it

[white matrix]

Here
||Bottom part of Greenpath, leftmost part||

[white matrix]

No??

U didn't????

[ruby folio]

Sorry , they did

[ruby folio]

If you use a ||simple key|| you can talk to the person inside and they will bring you your ||shade||

[white matrix]

Oh that

I got mixed up then ig

woopsie daisy

[ruby folio]

Sorry I didn’t read the previous messages:/

Now I understand

My mistake

[light totem]

@white matrix I got an idea, can you send a screenshot of your full map?

[white matrix]

Here

[light totem]

Okay potentially good news: you can also get a key in ||city of tears||. That would skip the grind but also be more dangerous

[white matrix]

I do remember I got another ||key|| that I spent somewhere else

I believe the ||elevator between Crossroads and CoT||

So I think das a no-go unfortunately

Ok the ||fat dude|| is taking a bit too long to respawn for my liking

Is there a way to make him respawn faster or another source of Geo I could visit?

[uncut iris]

Who

[slow bloom]

Wdym fat dude?

[uncut iris]

There’s a lot of fat enemies

[slow bloom]

All enemies respawn when u sit on a bench

[white matrix]

The ||Husk Guard||

[white matrix]

Oh rly?

dam

[slow bloom]

Yeah

[uncut iris]

||moss knights in greenpath are more efficient ngl||

[slow bloom]

Is there a bench nearby tho?

[white matrix]

Yeesh they're even tougher doe!!!!

[white matrix]

Yeah by the ||fast travel||

[uncut iris]

Use your ||spells|| cro

[light totem]

Weaker enemies respawn on room transition but yeah big boys take a bench

[slow bloom]

Enemies on the same loading screen as the bench dont respawn when u sit tho

But this only really apples to ||salubras|| bench

[white matrix]

I'm ||shadeless||

[white matrix]

I literally just benched myself and he respawned

[slow bloom]

I mean if a dead enemy is on the same screen as the bench

[uncut iris]

Then get it

[slow bloom]

Bruh keep up

[white matrix]

WHAT DO YOUTHINK I'M TRYING TO DO!?!?!?

[white matrix]

Yeah it's 2 screens away the becnh

[slow bloom]

Which simple keys have u collected?

[uncut iris]

Where is it anyways

[white matrix]

||Bottom of Greenpath, leftmost part||

No clue how it warped there

[uncut iris]

Bro what

I’ve never heard of that before

[white matrix]

YEAH

[uncut iris]

You should find ||relics|| to sell

[white matrix]

Wait

I can sell those???

[uncut iris]

Yeah

[white matrix]

How?

[uncut iris]

There is a guy in ||city of tears||

Could you show your map of that

[slow bloom]

Which simple keys have u gotten?

[uncut iris]

Spoiler that bro

[white matrix]

Just one, spent it on da ||elevator||

[uncut iris]

Expand on ||city of tears||

[slow bloom]

Where did u get it?

[white matrix]

||CoT||

[slow bloom]

Ah

[white matrix]

Where is it??

[slow bloom]

Yeah just grind to buy the one from ||sly||

[uncut iris]

Around here

[slow bloom]

What is?

[white matrix]

||Relic guy|| ig

[slow bloom]

Oh

Hes up a lil

[white matrix]

I AM DUMB
I ALREADY HAD ONE
I THOUGHT I'D SPENT IT XD

[uncut iris]

okay man

[slow bloom]

Such a silly goober

[white matrix]

Ok I just met ||Jiji|| who I'm assuming is who you meant to look for

And OMG WHY IS HER ||REGRET|| TALK SO RELATABLE

||DRAINING HOPE||??? HELL YEAH I AM 😭 🙏

MY GEOOOOOO
LESSSS GOOOOOOOO
THX GUYS

[slow bloom]

Now please spend your geo on something before u lose it

[light totem]

😭😭😭😭😭

||https://tenor.com/view/nasa-cheering-rocket-computer-happy-gif-5662333||

[white matrix]

||Lumafly Lantern|| for the ||Stone Temple||, and ||Soul Vessel|| and ||Mask Shard||

[slow bloom]

Stone temple?

[light totem]

Prolly the ||stone sanctuary in greenpath||

[slow bloom]

Ah

[valid seal]

wow its been over an hour since someone needed help with hk

[left tusk]

Please help me with the ||Hornet 2|| bossfight I just can’t get past the part were ||she throws the spikes||

[vestal estuary]

you can ||hit the sting shards to get rid of them, but she will throw more, so focus down all the shards immediately and then resume attacking||
alternatively ||claim half the arena as your own and remove all shards from that half, she has a shard cap of 6 so if all of them end up being on the other half you won't have to worry about them||

[solemn flume]

||charm to fight the grim master?||

[vestal estuary]

all the ones you have on right now are good, but i might swap ||compass for nailmaster's glory and try to charge up nail arts while he is offscreen for more damage when he comes back||

[solemn flume]

Yes this one is just for explore im gonna change later

[solemn flume]

Btw ||do i have to equip the flying charm one to fight him||

[vestal estuary]

yes

he will not show up otherwise

[solemn flume]

-2 slot 🥀

[alpine comet]

paying child support i see

[solemn flume]

At least bro do some dmg

[vestal estuary]

what if he didn't lmao
||grimm takes him away during the fight||

[solemn flume]

i hate this guy

[alpine comet]

little guy is trying his best don't rush him

[uncut iris]

It’s part of da ritual

||You pay for his child support he’s a bum||

[ripe laurel]

wait are you fighting ||nkg|| whats happening

[vestal estuary]

||regular grimm they were asking for charm loadouts||

[solemn flume]

Im fighting a bum

[ripe laurel]

ohhhh

normal bum is easy

nightmare bum is hard

i beat nightmare bum who doesnt may child support for the first time yesterday

i have 110% completion now

[solemn flume]

Why im i doing this

See you guys after 20 deaths

[ripe laurel]

normal troupe boy easy

[solemn flume]

Yeah i died

[ripe laurel]

i died my first time too

[vestal estuary]

he has no runback tho so its fine

[uncut iris]

They don’t have the ||upgraded grimmchild||

[ripe laurel]

awwh

[solemn flume]

Wym

[uncut iris]

After beating ||troupe master grimm your grimmchild is upgraded once more||

[solemn flume]

YO I GOT HIM TO 75%

[uncut iris]

Nice

Btw you can ||dream nail|| him at the start for free soul

It won’t piss him off

[solemn flume]

[untold schooner]

WHAT DO I DO??!?!?

[uncut iris]

Do what she says

[untold schooner]

she said "git gud"

[uncut iris]

(Use your ||dream nail there’s essence coming out of their head||)

[untold schooner]

yoo

where am i?

[uncut iris]

Ćma

[untold schooner]

fym challenge?

[solemn flume]

Yo this boss is so fun, he actually trying to ||dodge ur attack like a real player||

[uncut iris]

Yeah he’s a real fun boss

It gets better

[untold schooner]

should i challenge?

[uncut iris]

You have no other choice

[untold schooner]

aight

[solemn flume]

What do i do at the attack when he ||turn into bat||

[uncut iris]

That’s his stagger

[untold schooner]

BRO WHATS THAT SHIT

[uncut iris]

You have an opportunity to heal

Or deal more damage

[untold schooner]

guess what i died

[polar meadow]

Same

[untold schooner]

HAVE TO FIGHT AGAIN!?!?!?

[polar meadow]

Yeah

[untold schooner]

can i just fucking kill him!??!!

[polar meadow]

The hollow knight gets easier after a while

[uncut iris]

||the hollow knight|| can be beaten under a minute, they’re slow and weak (literally)

[solemn flume]

my only problem is the ||dash and fire one, i always thought he is gonna use the 3 bats move||

[untold schooner]

I DIED LOL

the ||shade isnt attacking me||

[uncut iris]

||the uppercut attack is telegraphed when he has his hand near his head as if he’s lunging towards you, for the fire bats attack just double jump. He skitters back if you’re too close to him before he attacks||

[uncut iris]

Because you have ||void heart||

the ||void will be pacified under your will||

[untold schooner]

well

[vestal estuary]

||the voidheart which is now part of you represents you uniting the void under your will||
||this passiveness includes the shade, void tendrils, and siblings||

[untold schooner]

gimme some tips to fight the ||radiance guy pls||

[polar meadow]

I dunn

oh

[solemn flume]

||hand near head is before or after he tp||

[uncut iris]

Just after

[solemn flume]

Just fight over and over i guess

[solemn flume]

Aight

[polar meadow]

Spam abysal when he lets out the light beams from his eyes

[untold schooner]

what

[uncut iris]

You can ||dash away|| from him. Stay near the middle of the uppercut

[vestal estuary]

#hk-help message see above

[solemn flume]

Spoiler pls

[polar meadow]

Srry

I forgot how

[solemn flume]

erm

[uncut iris]

?spoiler

[vestal estuary]

||spoiler here||

[vestal estuary]

i think it's like ?tag spoiler

[untold schooner]

i almost won ||THK||

[polar meadow]

|hello|

Nah

[untold schooner]

theres no normal ending anymore?

[polar meadow]

I m a dummy

[untold schooner]

just wanna kill it

[vestal estuary]

it's 2 |
like ||spoiler||

[jovial gorge]

|| spoiler here ||

[polar meadow]

||fudgenuckles||

oh

thx guys

Im gettin off

[untold schooner]

||hornet is a killstealer||

[polar meadow]

bye fellas

[untold schooner]

bro

i must do the ending?

cant change ending?

[solemn flume]

@vestal estuary ||im bring defender crest i got no time to react and charge nail art lmao||

[shy sorrel]

What ending

[untold schooner]

the ||radiance ihave to defeat her?||

[shy sorrel]

Yeh

[shy sorrel]

It's very easy, might take 5 tries ig

[vestal estuary]

you can also ||slay the hollow knight after hornet pins it down for a different ending||
i'd recommend getting both

[untold schooner]

duh

[untold schooner]

I CAN!??!?!

[shy sorrel]

Yeh

[untold schooner]

i thought fighting ||the sun|| is the only way

q

[shy sorrel]

That's like the main ending tho

How much hrs r u into the game

[untold schooner]

uhh 50

first playtrough

[worldly pawn]

heh the ||suns|| the hard way

[untold schooner]

playthrough

[shy sorrel]

Yeh

[untold schooner]

should just kill it?

well i died again

[silk viper]

If you want then yeah

[untold schooner]

how many stages does ||the sun|| have?

ill just kill her

[shy sorrel]

3

[vestal estuary]

#hk-help message i made like a full guide to her

[shy sorrel]

Yo u play sfs ?

[untold schooner]

ill just fucking kill her

[shy sorrel]

Only 1st stage is hard

[vestal estuary]

not recently tho

[shy sorrel]

Hmm

[untold schooner]

aight

whens the time to heal?

[shy sorrel]

3rd stage be calm, 2nd stage is too easy she will spawn next to u, u can spam her

[untold schooner]

whens the time to heal in the first stage

whta charm too

[shy sorrel]

When she does the triple laser last attack, but I recommend healing only at ||phase endings||

[golden flower]

5

[solemn flume]

@vestal estuary @uncut iris i beat him

[uncut iris]

Nice

[untold schooner]

triple laser?

[shy sorrel]

I used ||Shaman stone, Unb S, MoP, Spell twister|| I think

[shy sorrel]

She will do one laser attack three times right

[untold schooner]

i only got || 10 notches||

[untold schooner]

which laser?

[uncut iris]

If we count unique phases, 3
If we count specific hp thresholds then 5

[solemn flume]

There's more? What do i do

[untold schooner]

the thing that swipes thru the whole?

screen?

[shy sorrel]

Which spins

[uncut iris]

As he said, ||find the final flames and visit him for the last dance||

[untold schooner]

huh?

oh

[silk viper]

Pretty sure it's the ||yellow lasers that go in all different directions||

[uncut iris]

You may notice something odd when you look at your map

[shy sorrel]

It will do laser in 6 or some directions and it will do 3 times

[solemn flume]

Is this ||nightmare|| 😭

[untold schooner]

huh i dont recognise that

[golden flower]

the window is usually right after or during the end of every attack
healing can be done safely after ||sword burst, beam burst, sword rain and sometimes orbs/beam wall||

[solemn flume]

Noooooo

[untold schooner]

oh

saw it now

[solemn flume]

is ||nightmare damage just better or we have new moves||

[shy sorrel]

Both

[golden flower]

one more move

[untold schooner]

is this the one yall talkin about?

[golden flower]

yes

[shy sorrel]

Yeh this

[uncut iris]

He has one new move, is a LOT faster, tankier and augments his already existing moves

[untold schooner]

i died again

[solemn flume]

..

Nah i'd win

[shy sorrel]

Play calm don't rush her

[untold schooner]

pcik

[uncut iris]

Alright

[untold schooner]

pick

[uncut iris]

Good luck

[solemn flume]

Imma put on some lofi to not stress

[uncut iris]

You should find the last ||charm notch||

[untold schooner]

where

[uncut iris]

im guessing the last one in ||fog canyon||

[untold schooner]

THERE IS!?!?!

WHERE

[uncut iris]

Ues

[solemn flume]

Yes

[uncut iris]

Near ||forgotten crossroads entrance||

where you normally go through to reach ||monomon||

[untold schooner]

should i go there or just fucking kill her rn

[shy sorrel]

||Remove quick slash for Unb S and that's it ig||

[untold schooner]

ill js whip her ass

[silk viper]

It'd be better to go there imo

[uncut iris]

||extra charm notch means you can slot something else instead of grubsong||

[shy sorrel]

Yeh that's the best way

[fringe mortar]

@frozen vigil did you do it?

[golden flower]

if anything remove ||mop||
||qs is == to if not better than strength because it doubles as soul collection and a damage buff||

[shy sorrel]

But ||MoP|| helps a ton in 1st phase tho

And The 1st phase is the only hard phase

@golden flower ||isn't quick slash kinda bad for radiance as she keeps teleporting (unless u r speedrunning and face dancing), even if we get one hit it will be better, that's y I told unb s instead of qs||

[uncut iris]

No you can get several hits on her

[golden flower]

no

[solemn flume]

Does ||kgn also take the child||

[golden flower]

yes

[shy sorrel]

Yep

[uncut iris]

||She sometimes goes close enough to platforms in phase 2 that you can slash her multiple times, even for absolue radiance||

[solemn flume]

Why are we doing this 😭

[uncut iris]

||It’s the ritual||

[shy sorrel]

||Yeh ik that, I mentioned that the 1st phase is the only hard phase||

[silk viper]

isn't ||quickslash and unb. S|| like super overpowered

[uncut iris]

Yeah you effectively have ||9 max charm slots vs nkg||

[uncut iris]

Yes

[shy sorrel]

Yeh

[silk viper]

I don't see any reason not to try and incorporate those into your charm build

Especially for a fight like ||radiance||

[shy sorrel]

||Spells are more viable in the fight especially abyss shriek|| so ||shaman Stone|| is op

[silk viper]

True

More incentive to get the last ||charm notch||

[shy sorrel]

Yeh

[solemn flume]

||ill go to colloseum of fools to get the final notch, what will br my build be for nkg||

My charm yeah

[shy sorrel]

||Qs, Unb S|| is must I would say

[spice cape]

Does anyone know if ||greed charm works in the fools arena payout at the end?||

[solemn flume]

now geo farm

[golden flower]

||shape of unn, nailmaster's glory, shaman stone. anything else is whatever||

[shy sorrel]

Rly??

[solemn flume]

||is there anything alternative to nailmaster glory, i cant concentrate on him and charge up smh||

[shy sorrel]

I nvr use ||shape of unn||

[solemn flume]

It look funny

[golden flower]

||nkg|| doesnt have long enough windows for ||qs/strength to do anything relevant (nail arts are not affected by strength)||
||shape of unn allows for multiple guaranteed heals during flame pillars and bats||

[spice cape]

||does shape of unn give i frames or is it just movement? cause i feel like quick focus would be better, no?||

[shy sorrel]

Like for the fight I mean

[solemn flume]

Is the ||unn cuz you can like crawl on the ground and reduce hitbox||

[shy sorrel]

||What ? U can land 2 hits on his uppercut slash and his dive dash which makes unb s good, as of quick slash on his bats atk it's great||

[shy sorrel]

Yeh u can dodge bats i think

[golden flower]

just movement
||movement is more important (namely on flame pillars) though, and the healing windows where its not are consistent anyway (spikes, downdash) ||

[solemn flume]

I wouldn't mind some heal while he deal ||twice damage now ||

[golden flower]

||one great slash + one nail hit does 3.5x base, whereas two nail hits with strength does 3x||

[shy sorrel]

Yeh but I usually heal only at ||phase endings||

[spice cape]

||Ooooh you guys were talking about grimm, i healed only during spikes in my nightmare run i think, i managed pretty well||

[golden flower]

spikes is good yeah, just a little tight
having those safe heals on pillars as well is nice qol

[shy sorrel]

I am not good with ||nail arts||, so for me my build might be better

[solemn flume]

yes same

if i ||hold down the button i lost all common sense to move||

[shy sorrel]

Yeh I use only ||Dash slash|| sometimes and that's it

[spice cape]

||I was getting 2-3 hits in during that attack phase, but both is valid :)||

[vestal estuary]

||nail arts|| are my favorite stuff ever i did ||rad nkg nail arts only||

[shy sorrel]

Wow

I Hate performing ||nail arts|| I need to learn it tho, I have seen it being very useful

[golden flower]

||narts|| are the only way to dish out good damage in ||ab||, its a very fun playstyle

[solemn flume]

Maybe i need to move my jump button somewhere else to use ||nail art properly||

[vestal estuary]

i've got all my controls as default

[solemn flume]

Pro

[shy sorrel]

@golden flower what about this

[uncut iris]

You can land 2 hits on his ||dive dash||?

[golden flower]

whatever works for you works for you i cant argue against that
im just saying that if ||nail arts|| are an option, theyre usually better than ||strength (though optimally both would be used)|| for that fight

[shy sorrel]

Yeh I do..

[uncut iris]

Rarely ever get that opportunity due to spacing

[shy sorrel]

Yeh I understand ty

[uncut iris]

Would rather use ||great slash||

i’ve seen it in a ||p5ab|| video once

[vestal estuary]

i love ||nail arts|| so much i use them in traversal
i found out that i love them so much in ||the colo 3 grind of despair and agony|| when i was suddenly able to oneshot everything using them

[uncut iris]

The hitbox is large enough to backstab him

Oh and ||nail arts|| are hella good against ||sly||

[spice cape]

|| Colosseum of Fools is not affected by greed, sad, time to sell all my shit to the in the city 😭||

[shy sorrel]

That's why I am struggling at ||p3||

[uncut iris]

Wait this is about normal ||grimm||?

[golden flower]

overworld ||nkg||

[shy sorrel]

I don't think so

[uncut iris]

Oh okay

Similar strats should apply to all versions of ||nkg|| it’s just his health varies

[uncut iris]

Ic

[shy sorrel]

Is there any method for killing fucking ||fluke mungus|| or smth

I hate that guy

[vestal estuary]

just don't, skip past them

oh yeah that thing

[shy sorrel]

For ||journal entry||

[golden flower]

||dive + multihit fireballs||

[shy sorrel]

Hmm I will try

[solemn flume]

Gang

[solemn flume]

imma learn ||nail art in cof||

hope this helps beating that guy

[shy sorrel]

Which guy

[solemn flume]

The

||nkg||

[shy sorrel]

Ohh

That's what ppl say here, I need to learn too

[solemn flume]

Yeah i only need to learn how to use em while dodging and jumping 🥀

[uncut iris]

I’d imagine it’s hard for some people to use ||narts|| because of controls

[shy sorrel]

What else is there

[uncut iris]

Efficient use of ||cyclone slash||

[shy sorrel]

Ohh

Yeh, is there any diff between|| cyclone slash|| with up arrow and down arrow

[solemn flume]

pretty sure no

[shy sorrel]

Hmm

[golden flower]

no

[solemn flume]

Yes ||narts|| and jump and ||dash|| same hand

[shy sorrel]

Mm

[uncut iris]

No, but if you ||mash attack you can extend the duration and even glide with it||

[shy sorrel]

Yeh that ik

Ty

[uncut iris]

You could practice using it against ||collector||

[golden flower]

or use unextended to fast fall because of how the physics work

[shy sorrel]

Hmm I will try

[shy sorrel]

Yeh I used that in ||white palace|| I think

[rocky cloak]

What’s the best charm combo for ||TED||?

||the eternal ordeal||

||TEO I meant||

[jaunty night]

||your pantheon build usually, optionally add on a survival charm like unn or quick focus||

[rocky cloak]

I meant ||The Eternal Ordeal.||

[jaunty night]

I know

[rocky cloak]

So ||Unn|| doesn’t work.

[woven plinth]

||the climb||

[frozen vigil]

no

[rocky cloak]

How?? I’m stuck on ||The Eternal Ordeal|| can you beat it?

[woven plinth]

i haven't attempted it yet

[rocky cloak]

You know where it is?

[serene dune]

@frozen vigil how can you love math and also be dumb?

[frozen vigil]

Huh

[serene dune]

In ur about me

[fringe mortar]

me either dude but i havent tried since yesterday

[frozen vigil]

I'll try after school

[serene dune]

Tried what?

[feral mirage]

You can be dumb in other metrics, I love math and I'm dumb at coding for example

[fringe mortar]

stuck on ||radiance||

[serene dune]

She's not too hard, but it's not like an easier boss

[feral mirage]

What part?

[serene dune]

Yeah what spot do you usually die at?

[fringe mortar]

||the double damage threw me off guard i guess. wasnt expecting it. the horizontal spikes... i almost always get hit on them||

[feral mirage]

What do you mean she is not hard, she is the hardest boss in the game by far

[serene dune]

You can ||shade cloak|| through pretty easily

[fringe mortar]

I dodge the first two spike waves. then i get hit in the next two

[serene dune]

||Absrad|| maybe

[fringe mortar]

im thinking of ||getting the last charm notch and coming back||

[serene dune]

But I think ||nkg or even pv|| was harder

[serene dune]

That 1 ||notch|| makes a huge difference

[serene dune]

Can I see your charms page?

[fringe mortar]

i got everything. just finished collecting them all yesterday

[feral mirage]

||ddark?||

[uncut iris]

that’s regular ||radiance||

[fringe mortar]

so i went in and died to her like 10 times lol

[fringe mortar]

this what im thinking of doing too

[feral mirage]

Oh you're talking about regular ||Radience|| ,mb yeah you're right

[serene dune]

||*Radiance||

[feral mirage]

Mb

[somber hill]

Ppl will specify the non regular one

Usually

[serene dune]

^

[feral mirage]

Okay I didn't know, I'm not active on this server, or any server really

[somber hill]

Always assume regular anyways

[feral mirage]

Okay

[somber hill]

That’s fine

Not sure u castle yet

U gotta get the king to safety

[feral mirage]

Fair

[uncut iris]

People will refer to ||the stronger radiance as absrad or absolute radiance by the way, if they just say radiance then it’s the good old radiance trapped in the hollow knight’s mind||

[slender ibex]

i'm confused now where shall i find ||herrah||

[golden flower]

from there, left and up

[stone burrow]

||hey guys i encountered the broken vessel is 2 nail upgrades, shade soul and desolate dive enough to beat him||

[livid shoal]

You're the hydrogen bomb against a coughing baby

[honest junco]

yeah you should be good

[balmy vessel]

yeah should be enough

[stone burrow]

damn after ||broken vessel ||should i get ||descending dark||

[honest junco]

oh absolutely

[balmy vessel]

yes

[stone burrow]

ok

[livid shoal]

Yeah

[uncut iris]

Sure i guess

[livid shoal]

Hi GovernorRed

[serene dune]

Def enough, also hi

[uncut iris]

Oh you have ||shade soul|| yes lmao

[spice cape]

||dream zotes contact damage being 2 is fucking evil, he just walks into me while i'm hitting him 😭||

[uncut iris]

If you spam it at midrange theyre dead

[uncut iris]

Yeah his strongest attack isnt even any of them. It’s him walking

[honest junco]

"sure i guess"

[golden flower]

thats only in the 4th fight on

[uncut iris]

That’s why i always try to ||dash away from him|| after every attack

[serene dune]

You could have gotten it yesterday

[balmy vessel]

Why do so many bosses just walk into u

[serene dune]

Def go get it, maybe even before u get him

[serene dune]

Hugs

[spice cape]

||he stands still for so long but the time in which he stands still varies to like 1 to 3 seconds its annoying, and you don't know if he'll jump or run after that, and his jumping is pissing me off too, i'll be midair dashing away and he'll flatten me like a pancake in half a second, its rough||

[balmy vessel]

man i love getting my self crushed when they hug me

[serene dune]

They're just showing that they've been working out affectionately

[spice cape]

||I think i read there was like 10 fights or something in total? idk||

[serene dune]

Yeppers

[balmy vessel]

should have never saved him

[serene dune]

After all 10 you get a secret "cool" thing

[spice cape]

||I actually left him in the deepnest unintentionally cause i couldn't find how to get to him, and he was there for almost my entire playthrough, and i had thought he died LMFAO||

[spice cape]

Motivation restored lmao

[balmy vessel]

i dont think he dies in || deep nest||

[uncut iris]

Yep

[spice cape]

||nah he doesn't actually, cause i left him there, until i beat every other boss i know of and all the dreamers and came back and he was still there||

[uncut iris]

There is unused code that suggests he would but i assume TC didn’t want to make another check for that and players would most likely miss that because ||deepnest is a scary place||

[spice cape]

||Missed opportunity for TC to let you kill him while he's stuck in deepnest with Weaversong XD||

[serene dune]

U want me to just tell you in case you just get dissappinted?

[stone burrow]

bro f_ck ||c||||r||||y||||s||||t||||a||||lli||||z||||e||||d|| ||m||||o||||u||||n||||d||||s|| i hate that place with passion

[spice cape]

yeah sure, i mean i'm assuming its nothing great

[slender ibex]

||will this bench be always like this?||

[golden flower]

yes

[serene dune]

||The statue turns gold||

[spice cape]

Yep

[balmy vessel]

why did u spoiler every single letter individually

[serene dune]

There's one nearby in the building

[slender ibex]

yeah i saw that

[stone burrow]

its funny

[serene dune]

Ok man

[spice cape]

||I might ignore that and just open the seal honestly||

[stone burrow]

||guys do i open the ey in dirtmouth or the one near king station||

[balmy vessel]

what

[honest junco]

depends.. how often do you die?

[balmy vessel]

Whats an ey

[honest junco]

they meant K- ey

[balmy vessel]

oh

[stone burrow]

aroud every few nanoseconds and why does one of them make me immortal

[balmy vessel]

no

[honest junco]

no but it might be useful for recovering your ||shade||

[stone burrow]

oh thats cool so which one

[serene dune]

Me personally I don't use it ever

[balmy vessel]

|| by the one near king station do they mean the entrance to water ways||

[serene dune]

I wouldn't do the one in dirty mouth

[honest junco]

yeah i was about to ask that

[stone burrow]

no this one

[serene dune]

Do the one off to the left and down a bit

[stone burrow]

ok

[honest junco]

nah

[serene dune]

Just below ||lemm's||

[honest junco]

leave that one for when you ||have at least 4500 geo to spare||

[stone burrow]

oh my god

[honest junco]

dont worry, it will be an investment

[stone burrow]

i opened the one in ||royal waterways|| dw so ||dirth mouth|| or this one

[serene dune]

That one is prolly more useful

Not saying it is useful

Well it is but not very much

[honest junco]

for new players it is

[stone burrow]

i'll do both i'm so lost

[serene dune]

Do the one that you were right by earlier

[stone burrow]

k

[balmy vessel]

honestly || pleasure house is worth it||

[honest junco]

4600 actually

do you happen to have this amount already?

[stone burrow]

guys i heard ||marissa|| can be killed how?

[stone burrow]

no and i opened it

[golden flower]

||dnail||

[balmy vessel]

why would u tell him that

[honest junco]

yeah why

[stone burrow]

should i do it do i get ||essence||

[golden flower]

no, yes (1)

[uncut iris]

It isnt worth it

[stone burrow]

hey 1 is better than nothing iyk what i mean

[balmy vessel]

no

[uncut iris]

If you want ||essence|| find ||dream bosses and dream roots||

I prefer the former

[honest junco]

dont kill ||marissa ||man

[uncut iris]

It isnt worth going for random ||backer ghosts||

they’re just chilling

[honest junco]

its just evil

hollow knight genocide route

[serene dune]

They even put in a measure of protection against the killing of ||backer ghosts||

[balmy vessel]

really?

[stone burrow]

what is it cuz i was gonna do it

[balmy vessel]

oh u mean him

[honest junco]

fucking ||revek||

[uncut iris]

Just Don’t

[serene dune]

If you were gonna do it, then you're gonna be there for about a year

[uncut iris]

If you want ||essence|| seek out the ||dream warriors and bosses||

They will give a lot more ||essence||

[serene dune]

^

[uncut iris]

and no, all of them are not hard

only a certain few

[serene dune]

Hundreds per boss

[stone burrow]

atleast can i kill ||poggy thorax||

[uncut iris]

Mhm

[uncut iris]

No

That’s just not cool

[stone burrow]

but he/she is rude asf

[uncut iris]

I guess

[balmy vessel]

who?

[uncut iris]

Yeah I just dont find it worth the time regardless

[spring mesa]

Just leave the|| sprit's glade alone man ||

[uncut iris]

If i wanted ||essence|| i’d find ||dream bosses||

[stone burrow]

the other on in ||pleasure house||

[uncut iris]

Have you atleast seen ||xero||

he’s usually the first people fight

He’s quite close to ||seer||

Not too hard either

[balmy vessel]

oh the guy thst got eatten right

yeah kill him

[gritty drum]

Need help in sk guys

[stone burrow]

yeah i beat ||xero, elder hu and noeyes||

i killed ||marrisa||

[spring mesa]

Then go to #sk-help

[uncut iris]

Kay

If you want pointers, you should perhaps revisit some bosses you have killed

[balmy vessel]

Why man just why

[uncut iris]

Sometimes their corpses are just there

[stone burrow]

i'm joking i'm joking

[uncut iris]

Since you have the ||dnail|| you’ll notice something off about them

👀

[uncut iris]

@stone burrow ya hear this

[stone burrow]

wait i found one a while back he was ||failed champion||

[uncut iris]

Yes!

I am talking about bosses like those

There are a few other just like him

[stone burrow]

i heard o ||soul tyrant||

[uncut iris]

They are a lot stronger than their original forms but they give the most ||essence|| out of every source

[uncut iris]

Mhm

And one, maybe two or three more

[latent breach]

Any tips for a good charm build for ||nkg||?

[serene dune]

||Nkg|| in quest?

[stone burrow]

guys is worth it to fight ||soul tyrant|| before ||broken vessel||

[serene dune]

Yeah it's fine

But u should do him soon

Sole tire ant

[balmy vessel]

so i should use the sole of my shoe to kick a tire to kill an ant got it

[uncut iris]

It can be hard to dodge him without ||monarch wings||

Unless you’re up to the challenge

I wouldn’t personally

[stone burrow]

who is easier ||soul tyrant or failed champion||

[uncut iris]

Depends, what ||nail upgrade do you have and your spells||

[stone burrow]

where do i get that

[uncut iris]

||broken vessel||

[stone burrow]

||2 nailupgrades, 1 vessel, 2 masks, ddive, shade soul||

[stone burrow]

oh then i know where im going

[uncut iris]

Okay you should be able to easily beat ||broken vessel||

[uncut iris]

||failed champion takes longer with low nail upgrades since hitting his armour doesnt give soul, there is one more spell you can obtain that can work for both bosses||

Really depends on your skill

[smoky fractal]

||The more upgrades you have the easier failed champion is comparatively||

[serene dune]

You can't mention the other ||spell||

Spoiler

[stone burrow]

there are more ||spells|| damn this game has too much content

[uncut iris]

I’m just saying

[uncut iris]

Yeah could you show your maps

[stone burrow]

wait

[uncut iris]

Not giving any direct spoilers, a hint

[stone burrow]

i have'nt explored ||deepnest||

[uncut iris]

You should visit ||fog canyon|| perhaps

[stone burrow]

why?

[uncut iris]

This reason

[stone burrow]

i can't get past the impossible barrier

[golden flower]

not that room

[stone burrow]

oh well after ||basin then||

[solemn flume]

Is the devs trolling, i kinda feel bad for this guy

[balmy vessel]

dont be

[stone burrow]

fighting ||broken vessel||

[stone burrow]

how easy is this guy|| 2 nail|| hits and he is done

[uncut iris]

Not too hard

[jolly tangle]

Can i mod hollow knight If i have IT from gog.com?

[balmy vessel]

|| dream nail him||

[stone burrow]

wait let me heal also got the ||double jumps||

[balmy vessel]

nice

[stone burrow]

guys does|| fragile shit break in dreams||

[balmy vessel]

no

[serene dune]

No, with 2 exceptions

[solemn flume]

He is very easy, i can give tips

[rancid niche]

Yo

[serene dune]

Both of which are spoilers

[rancid niche]

Tips on || steel soul mode ||

[stone burrow]

bro i beat it but any tips for his ||dream version||

[balmy vessel]

why does it break on those 2

[stone burrow]

will it break in ||lost kin||

[serene dune]

112 the game first, and maybe beat it a couple more times first too

[rancid niche]

Uh

[rancid niche]

No

[balmy vessel]

no

[rancid niche]

Done

[golden flower]

immediately get ||heart||
beyond that, just have some careful routing (or dont)
||steel soul|| on its own isnt bad at all

[solemn flume]

||eh just fight the same, the only thing changed is his slam which shoot out 6 orbs, i usually dash out of it jumps up and come back to him to get like 3 nail hits||

[serene dune]

It breaks while ||fighting radiance and in white palace||

[rancid niche]

Wdym || heart? Like c dash? ||

[balmy vessel]

ik that but why tho

[golden flower]

||fragile heart||

[rancid niche]

Because it's real

[balmy vessel]

|| fragile heart ||

[rancid niche]

Oh right

[serene dune]

In ||radiance,|| cause it makes a ||shade|| in ||palace|| idk

[rancid niche]

Those are useful in || steel soul ||

[solemn flume]

Is ||t3 in cof hard im nervous erm||

[stone burrow]

oh ok

[golden flower]

yeah

[solemn flume]

Im finished

[rancid niche]

Yes

Much harder than the previous two

[solemn flume]

Yeah im dead

[rancid niche]

Just practice

[lilac crypt]

ive gotten 112% completion and have my progress saved but i havent gotten an achievement for 100 or 112% completion does anyone know why?

[rancid niche]

|| nail arts would be helpful ||

[balmy vessel]

u have to beat the game

[lilac crypt]

ohhh ty

[stone burrow]

why can't i ||dream nail ||him

[rancid niche]

|| You need 1800 essence ||

[solemn flume]

Time to really use ||narts||

[brittle geyser]

you need ||1800 essence|| to ||dream nail|| him

[stone burrow]

guys i just entered the worst area in the game

[brittle geyser]

what

[stone burrow]

i entered the most filthy explosive disgusting annoying area in the game

[brittle geyser]

oh the shit area

[spring mesa]

|| waterways?||

[brittle geyser]

||dung defender||?

[stone burrow]

nope wrong explosive

[spring mesa]

what else explodes bro

[brittle geyser]

wait can i ask you a question

[spring mesa]

sure

[brittle geyser]

out of all my ||charms|| which ones should i either get or use to beat ||watcher knights||?

[primal ibex]

||shaman stone, spell twister, quickslash||

[brittle geyser]

what ab ||sharp shadow||

[spring mesa]

|| shaman, quickslash, mop or longnail if you dont have slots ||

[solemn flume]

Wym

[stone burrow]

||infected crossroads||

[brittle geyser]

like do i use it

cause apparently it carries

[primal ibex]

you can try it

[spring mesa]

I mean, if you're good with it then sure go ahead

[brittle geyser]

alr thanks

[stone burrow]

what area is worse than ||infected crossroads||

[brittle geyser]

||deepnest||

[stone burrow]

fair enough

[fringe mortar]

So guess who got to phase 4 and died again💀

[primal ibex]

||platforms|| phase?

[fringe mortar]

Yea😭

[primal ibex]

or ||climb||

[fringe mortar]

Not the climb. Got to the platform and was spamming and got hit a coupke of times by the beams

[primal ibex]

camp at the ||bottom 3 platforms||

dont spam too much

[fringe mortar]

Alr

[stone burrow]

@serene dune i got ||howling wraiths||

[serene dune]

Niceeee

[hoary anvil]

if you're looking for an (imo) useful one to get, you could go grab ||quick focus|| from ||salubra ((the one that sold you shaman stone/etc over in crossroads))|| - i know you've been there and probably saw it ((would be impressive if you didn't), but ... 💰

also, your ||sharp shadow|| idea is serviceable - ||does some chip damage (equal to 1x nail damage per hit), and the extra shade dash distance has helped me get through them more reliably when going for hitless on it||

[tawny prism]

How do I reach this ||Grub||

[fringe mortar]

tricky i think you'll need to send screenshots

[stiff elk]

There’s a space at the ceiling

[balmy vessel]

u have to || cdash the cancle it and jump up and wall climb ||

[stiff elk]

You need ||crystal dash|| to reach it

[fringe mortar]

Guys I got the last ||charm notch||

[balmy vessel]

nice

[tawny prism]

thanks i found it

[fringe mortar]

now i need to obliterate ||radiance||

[balmy vessel]

|| the radiance should be a but easier now||

[fringe mortar]

i hope sooo

[balmy vessel]

what phase were u stuck on

[fringe mortar]

yesterday i got until phase 3 and died

today i got phase 4 once and died again

so i just went ahead and got the ||notch|| now

[balmy vessel]

yeah phase 4 is the hardest

btw for phase 5 u just need to climb on the platfroms while not getting hit by the lasers u just need to hit her once then u win

[fringe mortar]

i kept spamming ||abyss and ddark and it worked a lot. it got very easy and well... i got too greedy lol||

[balmy vessel]

damm

it wont be too hard once u get used to her attacks

[fringe mortar]

i always get hit with those spikes. not even the big laser ones. lets see i should beat her soon now

[tawny prism]

guys is the ||Gay Prince Zote|| fight long?

[balmy vessel]

By the spikes u mean the ones she spawns in right

[balmy vessel]

it is

[wintry mirage]

oh

ok retry

[wintry mirage]

||it really isnt, my first try took a solid 1 minute he was a bit easy hte strategy is to hit him most times youre able to and hit teh spells, also dont do it 4 times since in hte 4th he does double ||

[balmy vessel]

he gets harder the more u fight him

[tawny prism]

alright thanks.

would it be harder than ||White Defender||

[wintry mirage]

totally

the only thing thats worst is col. dmg

[tawny prism]

||White Defender|| took me a good hour on stage 5

[wintry mirage]

|| white def|| took me 1 try but it was a bit challenging

||GPZ|| was a bit too easy

[fringe mortar]

yesss. the one that stays in the same place isnt that hard. i also used ||ddark on them too||

[balmy vessel]

u can || d dark|| to clear them btw

[solemn flume]

||im currently using: nail master, qs, mop, unbreakable strength, one more slot what to use||

on ||trial 3 of cof||

I forgot lmao

[fringe mortar]

i basically decided to keep using the ||spells and dodge for now instead of trying to attack her with nail. its so hard lol||

[balmy vessel]

if u get hit a lot use || grub song||

[solemn flume]

Any alternative if i dont get hit alot ||im slowly being pro at narts||

[tawny prism]

OH I CAN FIGHT ||GRIMM||

[balmy vessel]

if ur having trouble hitting her with nail then look up jump if ur still having trouble use || mark of pride||

[balmy vessel]

use || steady body|| then

[solemn flume]

👍

[tawny prism]

wait ||Grimmchild|| has another phase after the |||grimm|| fight?

[balmy vessel]

yes

[tawny prism]

||Bretta|| is for the streets bro

[fringe mortar]

ill keep trying

[fringe mortar]

whyyyy

[balmy vessel]

alr

[grim latch]

help i know this is more for the modding help channel but im really worried. because i cant launch hk anymore after installing lumafly

[balmy vessel]

try going to modding help cause i have bo idea about modding

[sleek crest]

what are the actual trigger conditions for ||neglect||

[lean pilot]

Just check back eventually
||might be after getting cdash||

[sleek crest]

ok come on

whatever

alright so just go back then thanks

[uncut iris]

obtain ||mantis claw||

[sleek crest]

ok all achievements done :)

[royal hull]

||do getting any of the dreamers make the cws infected?||

[neat karma]

?tag pirate

[languid radish]

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[neat karma]

Assumming you mean ||”crossroads” by “cws” then yes||

[royal hull]

||forgot it was Crossroads and not crossworks really should fix Ship's fixations, anyways thank you!||

[neat karma]

Have fun goodluck with that

[primal harbor]

||getting the first dreamer or getting the Monarch Wings makes the Crossroads infected btw||

[stone burrow]

hey my ||crossroads|| is ||infected||

[primal harbor]

you really shouldn't open spoiler tags not directed to you
but you got lucky that this has already happened

anyways, what did you get?

[uncut iris]

oh yeah

i spoke to him earlier

[stone burrow]

||monarch wings all spells ||

[uncut iris]

they just beat ||broken vessel|| i think

[uncut iris]

yep

getting that item ||triggers infected crossroads||

[stone burrow]

yes and preparing for ||lost kin||

[primal harbor]

i see
You can go up to the right side of ||Ancient Basin|| now for something nice

[stone burrow]

hate ||infected crossroads|| soososos mush

[primal harbor]

||Lost Kin|| shouldn't be that hard. He's just a faster and more tankier version of ||Broken Vessel|| and one of my favourite bosses

[stone burrow]

yes so i'm working on ||8 notches||

[primal harbor]

It took me about 4 tries to beat him

[primal harbor]

which ones do you have?

[stone burrow]

||1 from fungal|| and ||3 from salubra will get my 4th from salubra||

[royal hull]

Oh ty

||Ship needs to win a debate, Sly is required for 112% right?||

[primal harbor]

If you mean ||P3||, yes

[primal harbor]

👍

[royal hull]

||like Sly in general||

||like saving him||

[primal harbor]

Yeah, because you need his ||charms, masks, and vessel fragments||

[neat karma]

||not saving itself but yeah all of the above are percents||

[primal harbor]

But you can't get any of those without saving him

[neat karma]

Yeah, but ||saving him doesnt give a percent, thats what im specifying||

[royal hull]

Now curious
||are you able to fight p3 or nah if you don't save him||

[uncut iris]

||sly himself doesn't give any percentages but his all of his wares (except the egg and key to some extent) and nailmaster's glory does||

[royal hull]

So in general he is required?

[uncut iris]

Yes.

[royal hull]

Hopefully this is enough for them to believe over chatgpt

[primal harbor]

You should be, right? None of his items are required to enter ||Godhome||, and I think you can fight the ||Nailmasters|| without encountering them too

[uncut iris]

washed

[ripe laurel]

you were online earlier at 2 pm its 3am why the fuck are you still awake

[ripe laurel]

oh

3:56 AM for me

[uncut iris]

Sleep

[ripe laurel]

nuh uh

[uncut iris]

or i will turn you into a ||dreamer||

[ripe laurel]

sleep is less important than 112% completion

im 2% away

i just gotta do|| pantheon 3 and 4||

[uncut iris]

okay

[ripe laurel]

wait does ||path of pain|| give completion or no

[uncut iris]

good god no

just a ||3 second cutscene and a journal entry||

[ripe laurel]

thats it?

thats so bull

youd have to be a sucsessful loser just for that

[uncut iris]

[ripe laurel]

i fucking hate ||sly||

[uncut iris]

my trick for him is to fight fire with fire

you know what i mean?

[hushed socket]

||sharp shadow|| is INCREDIBLY useful, it's the easiest way to damage him in phase 2

And also to dodge more easily

[ripe laurel]

||fireball|| him?

[hushed socket]

Nah it's fun

[uncut iris]

not literally

i mean using ||nail arts|| against him

[hushed socket]

I think they mean spam nail

But also listen to my suggestion 🙏 i found it very very helpful for phase 2

[uncut iris]

but yeah you could use ||fireball and he can be double hit by shade soul||

you can't easily hit him while he's idle since he's attacking near nonstop