hk-help

[austere wolf]

i died to ||uumuu||

gvugtiugoughip

[long kettle]

Beat ||GPZ|| tho

sorry for responding so late, was tabbed out

[austere wolf]

ye

[forest pewter]

[austere wolf]

this is so embarrasing

dying to likee

the 3rd easiest boss

[forest pewter]

Not even close to that
Smh

[ornate grotto]

does this include the ||dlcs||

[long kettle]

yes

The "DLCs" are more like updates

[austere wolf]

i am at break area thing now

||p3||

[ornate grotto]

can you transfer pc gamepass saves onto the steam version

[bright vigil]

||any other charms i am missing?||

like secret ones

[long kettle]

Why do you ask?

[bright vigil]

i think i saw others but idk

[sacred dove]

No

[long kettle]

||Some charm slots could be filled by different charms, for example, fragile and unbreakable strength||

[sacred dove]

You literally have all the charms

[sacred dove]

Also, weird to see ||Dream Wielder for NKG||

[bright vigil]

alright just making sure

[warped kite]

Probably it's ||just to get to NKG faster||

[bright vigil]

trying random stuff

[sacred dove]

?

[bright vigil]

hardest boss so far

[alpine comet]

hi outer sans

[bright vigil]

my set rn

[sacred dove]

I guess if you're actually using ||NArts||

[slim harness]

||wouldn’t some spell charm be better than sharp shadow||

[alpine comet]

NO

[bright vigil]

yes but not really

i rarely get the chance

[sacred dove]

||SShadow is great against NKG and I don't find much occasion to use spells||

[bright vigil]

you are the biggest fan for that charm lol

[slim harness]

Woaw

[sacred dove]

Then don't equip ||NMG||

[bright vigil]

what else do i put for 1 point

[alpine comet]

||compass||

[slim harness]

||gubsong|| surely

[sacred dove]

||sprintmaster||

[slim harness]

Funniest joke ever

[alpine comet]

thanks

[bright vigil]

would it matter tho

[alpine comet]

not much

[slim harness]

Probably not really

[sacred dove]

I mean, it's always nice to run faster

[alpine comet]

||gsong || most optimal but || compass || funny

[long kettle]

I disagree, I am used the the base run speed

[sacred dove]

So am I

[slim harness]

||could remove nmg and sharp shadow for a 3 notch charm||

[bright vigil]

i would do the funny but i cant beat him while try harding

[alpine comet]

Treason

[slim harness]

||it doesn’t do anything when airborne or dashing||

[sacred dove]

No

[slim harness]

Shut up brah

[long kettle]

||It really doesn't matter that much, you can easily keep the NMG, it doesn't hurt, you also could have kept dream wielder that you had before||

[sacred dove]

Both are pretty much useless

[bright vigil]

seemed like a good idea for extra soul

[alpine comet]

charm doesnt matter much for ||nkg || just need to git gud imo

[slim harness]

Chat is this real

[bright vigil]

that boss is cheating

too much damage

[long kettle]

Just a clarification, ||the extra soul is for when you strike enemies with the dream nail, not the normal nail||

[slim harness]

Yuh

[long kettle]

two much damage

[bright vigil]

bruh

welp

[long kettle]

Yes you can, there is a steam guide for common troubleshooting issues, which contains info about how to do this. I would link it but I can't remember if I am allowed to or not

[austere wolf]

wh

died to ||hornet||

||p3||

[long kettle]

Tough fight, but ||further in the pantheon|| than before, making progress

[austere wolf]

ye i had 1 hp entering

wait

how do u get ||radiance ||in ||HoG||

[long kettle]

Don't worry about it, it is not something you need to do anything about rn.

[austere wolf]

does it give any ||percentage||

like game ||percentage||

[long kettle]

No

[austere wolf]

oh

[bright vigil]

welp i give up

[long kettle]

Just to be clear: ||p3 does, but HoG doesn't||

[bright vigil]

||any good ngk guide?||

[long kettle]

I can write you some tips if you want. Otherwise, ||the Hollow Knight wiki recommends the NKG boss discussion video from Perpetual Noob||. I have not watched it myself, but I trust the recommendation.

[bright vigil]

sure i just find his attacks hard to dodge

i take one hit from almost each attack

[ornate grotto]

do you have a video guide or something cus the steam page wasnt that helpful

[long kettle]

I can send you the link to the guide I was talking about, I know of no video guides, but I guess I could look one up, though it needs to be within 3 years old since the way to do it changed.

[long kettle]

Ok (I had to split this into three messages because it was too long):
General tips:
||Don't get greedy with hits, and try to reset your position to the middle-ish area, on the ground after each attack.
Treat it like a series of very short battles: Grimm does his move, then you do yours, reset, Grimm does his move, you do yours, reset.
Try and dodge with as little as possible (I will be listing alternatives), but be ready to use more if you need to.
If you get hit, remember not to get greedy with hits in retaliation, and don't panic, just accept that you got hit and reset to prepare for the next attack.||

Specific tips:
||When he does the flame pillars, walk away from NKG until one flame pillar has been done, and the second has been placed, then jump and dash back over it, the third will spawn in effectively the same spot as the second one, and then walk over to NKG and upswing/up spell him.

When he does the uppercut, I recommend hitting once with the nail and then dashing away from him, this should put you in a safe spot from the fireballs, or maybe it requires you to walk a bit idr, but either way it is a consistent way to dodge it and you hit him once. If you get comfortable with this spacing, you can start up spelling him too.

When he does the attack where he dives at the ground and then in your direction, I say you should walk a small distance away so that the initial dive to the floor doesn't hit you, and then jump up and over, trying to get over the spot where he hit the ground, since a fire trail is left behind him. If you get comfortable with this, you can start trying to just jump and land where he ends up, and try to pogo him when he stands up, so hold jump for as long as you can, since if you try to pogo before he stands up, he can hit you by standing up.||

||When he does the flame bats attack, you should wait until he starts firing bats (he will scuttle back if you are too close to him when he starts this attack), and then jump over the first lower bat, and then dash through the second set of bats (in the same jump). After this you can swing at him until he disappears, you can also do some side spells for more damage.

When he does the spikes attack, it is just a reaction test, look for the nearest gap to the knight, ignore the rest of the screen, and just stand in the closest gap. Stay near the bottom of the screen because the spikes shoot up at random angles and so can hit you in the air. This is a good attack to get one heal off if you get to safety quickly (or start in safety and recognise it quickly enough).

When he does the flame spawner attack (pufferfish attack): move to a distance close to one edge of the screen, but not against the edge, and watch only the bottom two rows of fireballs as they come to you. Only jump if the bottom one is there, and jump high if they are both there. If they are both there there will be a free space above the second one, so it is always safe to do that. If there is another one on the bottom after you have jumped over one, move towards the edge of the screen so that you can land and jump over the fireball. When you have time, move back towards the centre a little, so that you have space to do this again.||

That was a lot, sorry if that is too much text.

[bright vigil]

no thanks sorry for making you write all this

[long kettle]

nw

[alpine comet]

WALL

[acoustic sigil]

Did you just type this

That's some effort for one question

[long kettle]

Well, I offered to type some tips out so I did

[acoustic sigil]

Fair

Can I add it to my wall document to reshare later (with credit)

[long kettle]

What is that?

[acoustic sigil]

I have a document on my pc in which I have collected a wall for roughly every boss

But more walls = better

[long kettle]

I mean, sure.

I am just not sure why you ask, I don't have a copyright on that message

[acoustic sigil]

Idk some people don't like it

[long kettle]

Fair enough

[vagrant furnace]

how do I beat ||nosk||

he's scary

[jade heart]

u can cheese him by ||hugging the opposite wall and upslashing, then run around when he drops infection from the roof||

[long kettle]

Generally, I say|| stay on one side of the arena, jump over and pogo the runs, and hide next to the platform when it shoots orange stuff. Also switch sides on the arena when it is in the ceiling||

I could write more specific tips if you want, but that is the gist

[ornate grotto]

yes please i’m quite lost

[vagrant furnace]

aight cheers

[shell crystal]

do i need to ||save zote|| for 112%?

[long kettle]

No.

[shell crystal]

whew thank lord, i forgot to do so

[sick grotto]

does anyone have any tips for ||pure vessel? I’ve beaten him once so far but I’m trying to get him consistent||

[bold matrix]

||where to go after getting crystal heart and getting out of city of tears after beating soul master?||

[long kettle]

I recommend|| trying to save shade cloak for the knives, so try jumping and pogoing or just jumping the triple slash and the thrust attack||

[dusky sonnet]

Practice and practice and practice again and again and again

[sick grotto]

ok thanks

I think I’m being too greedy in the fight: getting punished for not reacting to him

bc I’m too busy trying to attack

[long kettle]

||The game is a metroidvania, it is non-linear, and especially at that point in the game, very open, just pick a direction and see if you can explore there||

[dusky sonnet]

||Ancient basin or kingdoms edge i recommend anceint basin for better movement||

[long kettle]

unnecessary spoiler

[dusky sonnet]

He did ask

[bold matrix]

||is ancient basin the place you get to after using the train in deep nest?||

[dusky sonnet]

Ye

[bold matrix]

okay thanks

[long kettle]

asked where to go, ||implies doesn't know the area names or abilities, so not helpful, just a spoiler||

[dusky sonnet]

Alr I am sorry just don't kill me for it jeez

[bold matrix]

no its all good i watch lots of hollow knight youtube videos so i know how it looks

just didnt know

How to get there

[bold matrix]

||how do i get the train in deep nest to work?||

[long kettle]

||That tram never works||

[bold matrix]

where is the actual one?

[dusky sonnet]

Explore and u will find it

[vague cloak]

||near the hot spring to the right I think||

[bold matrix]

bruh you a life saver ong tysm

[vague cloak]

You’re welcome man have a good time down there!

||also go check out that fountain ok? Make sure to have 3000 geo and you get a present||

||it’s above conifer if you cannot find it||

[simple island]

How the hell do you want any of this to make sense to them ?

[vague cloak]

What?

How does that not make sense

[simple island]

Try not to spoil stuff to people unnecessarily
They haven’t been to ||basin (it seems ?) they haven’t found the fountain…||

[vague cloak]

Yeah I am saying stuff I thought should be spoilered sorry

Just trying to be helpful

[simple island]

(||Basin|| is to be tagged)

[vague cloak]

There it’s fixed

[simple island]

Oddly enough, sometimes the helpful you can be is to say nothing and let people do their own discoveries

[rich vine]

Is it?

[vague cloak]

Yes

It is

[rich vine]

lol

[wise nimbus]

Which build is better!

any other suggestions besides this is appreciated

for ||Pantheon5||, 1st playthrough

[thick wing]

Don't overcharm

Simple as that

[warped kite]

||the last one is a Heavy Nail build Build
So if you use Nails more then spells go for that
The second one is a good Spell build
So if you use Spells alot more then go for that
If I'm being honest here
I don't like the first build that much cause it doesn't have Shaman stone for it to count as a spell build but
You get alot of healing there so use that if you want||
And I also say you shouldn't ||overcharm|| for first time

[thick wing]

||Double damage against bosses that deal 4 damage now is not fun||

[simple island]

for a late game charm build I would say that ||shaman/quick slash/strength is a base line then you can add stuff like heart/spell twister/any combination of grubsong, nmg, dream wielder, sbody to finish; you can also replace one of the first 3 charm with MoP||

[wise nimbus]

All the advices are Appreciated,
shu is confident he can have fun even with ||overcharming||
until she meets ||abs rad|| maybe

.

How much hits does ||strength ||reduce on avg for bosses

||Mop|| feels more useful that that to shuu

[thick wing]

In the white palace, there are some passages blocked by a white barrier, I don't know how to get through there.

[vague cloak]

Hardcore parkour

[thick wing]

oh

ok, thanks

[simple island]

||Strength is 50%|| more damage

[simple island]

First off please edit your message with spoiler tags
Second off, those ||barriers appear after you’ve already been to those places and cleared them||

[long kettle]

Spoilers are required for ||p4, pure vessel, and p5||

[fossil quartz]

oh my bad!

how do i make spoiler tags lmao

??

[long kettle]

?spoiler

idk the command

[fossil quartz]

?spoiler

[long kettle]

but you put "||" on either side

[fossil quartz]

||I went through hours doing bosses to get p4 just to just pure vessel, but guess what? He is extremely lacklustre, my only roadblock from beating p5, and just an annoying, unfun fight in general. /spoiler||

[long kettle]

on pc you can highlight the message and then click the eye and it adds these tags

[fossil quartz]

If anyone has any suggestions or tips to make this fight more enjoyable/easier please let me know.

[long kettle]

Whoo!

Anyway, I am on my way out so I will not help you, sorry.

[fossil quartz]

It’s fine, thanks

[broken rose]

Specifically where I have to wall jump from one side to another

[fossil quartz]

Fall through the spikes, dash onto the wall, walljump onto the other side and than proceed to the next room

[broken rose]

The dashing is fine, the problem comes when I have to wall jump from that side I dashed to to the other. I always slide into the spikes ot hit the ones up above

[fossil quartz]

hmm you might need a new ability

[storm lichen]

you can do tiny jumps to stay on the wall while planning your next move

[storm lichen]

❌

[broken rose]

The nearest bench is also like 5km away so I have to farm the crab thing at thje beginning for soul

[broken rose]

Do I jump further up when I hold space longer for jumping off a wall, because I feel thats the problem

[storm lichen]

yes

[broken rose]

huh, ok

[storm lichen]

spoilers

[broken rose]

Crab farming time

[storm lichen]

gl

[nimble holly]

@fossil quartz Spoiler tag your messages

[fossil quartz]

?

[broken rose]

I did it and I *** dashed into the spikes ;-;

[nimble holly]

You left messages withouts spoiler tags

[fossil quartz]

if they haven’t || fought him ||

[nimble holly]

Don't be intentionally obtuse, just follow the rule

[fossil quartz]

ok lol

[broken rose]

Made it!

[storm lichen]

nice

[proper frost]

||It has been an hour scince actually||

[thick horizon]

||how do you get the grub in the crusher room? I have long nail equipped and can’t do the through the floor hit to get it||

[noble steppe]

are you talking about the room in ||crystal peak that has the crushers blocks||?

[thick horizon]

Yes

[noble steppe]

||If so, you just need to go through the path and avoid getting crushed, nothing to do with the nail||

[thick horizon]

|| yeah but with the second crushers that are like half way down and go really quick I can’t get through them, is there a special way to do it or just perfect timing?”||

[stoic cedar]

||for the crushers it’s all timing, there’s nothing special to it||

[noble steppe]

I think it's just timing, but it's not actually too hard after a few tries. The trick that helped me is counting each time it goes down and then dashing under it on 4

[thick horizon]

My choir years coming in to play lol

[noble steppe]

for some reason counting gets you in the rythm and makes it easier to time it right

[noble steppe]

fr lmao

still might take a few tries, but that helped me at least

[thick horizon]

||If you dash under it with I frames and get caught while the I frames are still active will you go through?||

[stoic cedar]

I think ull still get hit

[thick horizon]

Darn it

[gloomy hollow]

Spoiler tags

[thick horizon]

Sorry

[sharp torrent]

||crushers are considered hazards, which ignore iframes||

[thick horizon]

Sad boy noises

[empty hinge]

i decided to make a skin for hk ||bcs i hate myself|| and does this red box indicate where i can draw or just hitbox?

[olive mirage]

no idea tbh. try asking in #art-discussion, #1057825333841240104, or #modding-discussion

[teal rampart]

I just came here to complain for the tenth time that I hate the ||pure vessel||

[jade sedge]

Please edit your message and add spoiler tags

[teal rampart]

I'm really sorry, I was distracted so I forgot

[acoustic sigil]

Please delete the video's as they are not spoiler tagged

[teal rampart]

Sorry, I forgot to put it

I had to send it again but anyway here are my games against ||pure vessel||

[olive mirage]

||sharp shadow is harming you here.||

[teal rampart]

I accidentally sent the wrong video, sorry

[olive mirage]

||when you hit with it you don’t deal as much damage as nail and you don’t get soul. If you take it off you can still dash through and then dash back and get 2 nail hits, dealing way more damage||

[high mica]

how do I message leth I have a problem he can probably fix

[teal rampart]

The first video is a video where I lose and I wanted to send the videos where I won, but I think I didn't record the second victory.

[olive mirage]

What? He isn’t exactly reachable right now

[olive mirage]

Still, ||sharp shadow is pretty|| bad

[teal rampart]

Apparently I just didn't record my second Victory unfortunately

[high mica]

oh well the achievement arts for ||lost kin and broken vessel|| are swapped on xbox

wouldn’t he be the person who can fix that?

[teal rampart]

Thanks for the tip, I'll try to apply it later.

[olive mirage]

There aren’t doing any bug fixes anymore

[teal rampart]

Because now I'm already in an attempt at the ||pantheon||

More specifically the 4

[high mica]

its not in the game though its on xbox’s achievements

[olive mirage]

Leth isn’t even a dev though he is the community manager

[teal rampart]

||Gentlemen, this is my first attempt at the fourth pantheon after my training, let's see how I do||

[high mica]

I thought he would be the one who updates store pages and stuff?

[acoustic sigil]

You can contact tc on their site

[teal rampart]

My attempt came to literally nothing but at least I learned a few things.

[olive mirage]

Not that they will respond 💀

[high mica]

you should have ||PV|| in ||Hall of Gods|| now

[teal rampart]

||The only things I learned is that I'm horrible at dodging the attack where the spikes come from the bottom up and I also discovered that I'm also bad at dodging the attack where he throws several Stingers in lines towards the knight||

[high mica]

maybe im wrong though

[teal rampart]

This attempt was after my training

[fossil quartz]

|| just beat him on radiant diff||

[olive mirage]

||Double jump to correct you positioning for the spikes from the ground and dash through the spikes in the air||

[teal rampart]

||I have to confess something, it will be almost impossible for me to learn the whole boss again without using the dark dash amulet seriously that amulet carried my matches and I can't not use it ||

I got addicted to it

||It was the only amulet in the game that I got addicted to since my first games I couldn't put it down||

[olive mirage]

Well it’s holding you back

You must break free imo

[teal rampart]

I'll try but I don't know if I can go on without him.

[acoustic sigil]

||It’s still best to rip the band-aid off and try to fight advertisement of the charm just because people develop bad habits. It forces you to learn an entirely different way to play which is often detrimental and requires it to be unlearnt when one unequips sharp shadow, whether it’s because they’ve seen it’s flaws or because they’re doing charmless/all bindings.||

[teal rampart]

||Now that I have two extra spaces, what do I put in them?||

[acoustic sigil]

||Spell twister or grubsong/steady body/nail masters glory||

[olive mirage]

The first one imo

[teal rampart]

||Just to let you know I'm doing a strength/sting build||

[acoustic sigil]

||Then maybe long nail as an option, but I would go the steady body + grubsong route ||

[supple sluice]

||don’t listen to them SShadow is fun to use and it looks cool ||

[teal rampart]

I'll send you a picture so you know what I have and what I don't have.

[acoustic sigil]

I mean, you have everything

If the 111% is true

[teal rampart]

I'm talking about what I have equipped in the build

[olive mirage]

Yeah it’s fun bet he came for gameplay help and we gave it. Doesn’t have to listen it’s just our advice that they asked for.

[acoustic sigil]

||Why aren't you using mark of pride in a full nail build||

[olive mirage]

Take off ||sharp shadow and grub song for shamans stone|| imo

[teal rampart]

This build is basically made for the ||pure vessel|| Because I can easily deal with the bosses that come before me

That's why you questioned the amulet

[acoustic sigil]

||I mean if he isn't using spells, there is no use in equipping shaman||

[olive mirage]

I watched his gameplay and he was using some ||spells||

[teal rampart]

||I usually just use the down magic but sometimes I want to do a little more damage and use the vengeful spirit||

[olive mirage]

Good

[teal rampart]

Because of the invincibility by a few thousandths

[olive mirage]

I like ||shamans more than mop 95% of the time||

[teal rampart]

||This is my build without what you told me to remove||

[supple sluice]

||Yeah I do not think the three notches is worth the range unless I’m doing flower stuff||

[teal rampart]

And I think I'm going to do my build like this now

[acoustic sigil]

||Why grubberfly ||

[stoic cedar]

||u might as well use mark of pride instead of elegy then||

[teal rampart]

In my head it makes sense

[acoustic sigil]

But you are not going to do the fight hitless

[supple sluice]

||My flower build is LNail, MoP, GFE, ShamanS, and QSlash||

[acoustic sigil]

||So it's a wasted 3 notches after the first 20 seconds||

Maybe 10

[cursive lotus]

Hello everybody! I've just beat ||Soul Master|| and have the ||desolate Dive||, but I have no clue where to go next. If somebody could, can you give me small hints as to where to go?

[supple sluice]

Don’t use it

[acoustic sigil]

As in how to leave that area or just in general

[cursive lotus]

I've already left the area

[acoustic sigil]

👍

[cursive lotus]

so in general

[acoustic sigil]

||There are a lot of places you can go to now, the game really opens up. If you want some specific hints, do you remember any shaking ground you encountered before getting dive||

[teal rampart]

I think this will be my definitive build

Enough changes, this one will be the winning build, it will take me to the end

[cursive lotus]

I don't remember any ||shaking ground|| except for the one with ||Myla||

[acoustic sigil]

Well that sounds like a good enough start

[cursive lotus]

alright, I'll start there. Thanks!

[cursive lotus]

Hello again! I found ||Crystal Peak|| but I have no clue what to do next. Could somebody help?

[pearl solar]

Explore the area is ||home to useful things||

[cursive lotus]

||I've been exploring for quite a while but still can't find anything. All I found is a rancid egg and a grub||

[hoary anvil]

as a curiosity, does ||elegy have conflicting i-frame issues with the nail||?

[olive mirage]

Well I don’t think you have explored all of it. There is a lot more to find

You can send a photo of your map if you want specific guidance

[green stone]

^- And inventory so we know what you got

[hoary anvil]

considering they had ||dive||, they are guaranteed* to have ||claw and dash -> access to most of the area||, they could only potentially be missing ||lantern or wings|| of the relevant items.
*cursed skips exist to skip one that can probably be disregarded

[teal rampart]

||Good news guys, I got the hang of all the bosses and I can get to the fourth pantheon with full health on every attempt, now I just have to try harder to kill the one because on every attempt. I got to the part where he starts using void tentacles||

I even recorded an attempt that I will divide into four parts because it is a lot of files for discord to be able to send

(more specifically 12 minutes and some seconds)

[cursive lotus]

Hello again everybody! I beat ||Soul Master|| not too long ago and tight now I am in ||Crystal Peak|| and I was wondering if I had the right things to progress, or if I'm just making it harder on myself because I don't have the right items. So if you could, tell me some of the items I need.

[spark cradle]

I want to get help but dont get spoiler

[stoic cedar]

can you show ur item inventory and map like ppl requested earlier

[spark cradle]

Just explore till there are only paths left where u dont have the ability to go further

There is nothing other to say about

[cursive lotus]

I don't have a map for ||crystal peak|| yet

Okay, I didn't know they were talking to me. Here you go

[supple sluice]

You're good to keep going

[cursive lotus]

Okay, I was just making sure the ||bosses ahead|| were doable

[supple sluice]

||Technically there's only|||| one boss but it's optional||

[sonic bough]

This is Kinda hk but not at the same time: i wanna do a zote build in elden ring but i have no idea of what to use for it 😭

[spark cradle]

||yes||

Noway mister mushroom

[supple sluice]

#hk-discussion or #off-topic is better suited for that

[sonic bough]

Nyush oola mumu? Shruba dungo ola, ola mu... gungi

[spark cradle]

Guys i brought the ||flower|| in the right biom but theres nowhere a ||grave|| on the map or something else hinting. Can u tell me if there is a way that i find out where i need to bringt without u telling me where the place is

[spark cradle]

Has to be my fav character

I just discovered him and i hope that he gets added to the main story when i progress

[supple sluice]

||There's not really anything telling you where to go but as a hint there's a room with a ton of thorns||

[sonic bough]

Fr hes so cool, I've decided if he isnt in silksong i wont play it

[stoic cedar]

ideally u shouldve figured this out before u started it but ||ull know when u in the right place if u see a somewhat cramped corridor full of thorns. ||

[sonic bough]

Okay thanks!

[spark cradle]

Can it be that i havent unlocked it

[stoic cedar]

wdym by unlocked

[spark cradle]

Idk why but i found it so funny when u meet him and he turns around

[stoic cedar]

it should be just there

[supple sluice]

||If you're in the right area then you're good||

[sonic bough]

Yh! The expression he has is funny

[spark cradle]

||queens garden|| is big

[supple sluice]

It's not that big

[spark cradle]

Do i see the spikes on the map

[stoic cedar]

i mean we really cant be much more specific about the hints without giving locations

[spark cradle]

I thought its that ||dead body of the big creature or the 4 infested dead guys||

[stoic cedar]

no

[spark cradle]

Does tp destroy ||the flower||

[stoic cedar]

yes

[supple sluice]

no

[spark cradle]

||does it say here sleeps the traitors child||

[cursive lotus]

Hello again! I'm sorry for asking so many questions, I'm just having a hard time with hollow knight. Does anybody know any tricks to help me ||beat Crystal Guardian||?

[spark cradle]

Set a mark and come back when ur better

[cursive lotus]

How much is "better"?

[spark cradle]

Ive sadly not done that and tried some bosses +2hrs

[stoic cedar]

||i mean it doesnt really say anything, if u found the right place then itll let u give the flower||

[spark cradle]

[supple sluice]

Yes

[spark cradle]

I hate developers adding such picky tasks

[fathom bison]

Whatre you struggling with in particular?

[spark cradle]

i jumped right before into thorns

[cursive lotus]

How do I go back to ||Forgotten Crossroads|| after going into ||Crystal Peak||?

[fathom bison]

Also, not great advice ill say.

[livid shoal]

☝️

-# Up

[cursive lotus]

how do I go up?

[livid shoal]

[cursive lotus]

I tried

[spark cradle]

Left

[supple sluice]

||You can time the jumps to never get hit by his laser and he'll basically never jump onto you and if you have spore shroom and a bunch of soul you can kill him without waking him up||

[fathom bison]

||Ill ask again, whatre you struggling with in the crystal guardian fight?||

[livid shoal]

Spoilers

[fathom bison]

Actually, yeah this works.

sorry

[cursive lotus]

sorry i didn't see your question earlier, almost everything is hard to dodge

[fathom bison]

||Just take your time with it. The hand laser can be jumped over, the lasers from above are very clearly telegraphed and not hard to get out of the way of.||

[cursive lotus]

Okay got it. Thanks! Now back to the second question, How do I go back to ||Forgotten Crossroads||?

[fathom bison]

Find ||the key item deep inside of the crystal peak. Then, make your exit off to the left.||

[stoic cedar]

||depends on what u have. u might need to get an ability that is found in crystal peaks in order to leave.||

[spark cradle]

I went into the ||lifeblood cave and i found the charm and i got tped out and now its closed and i dont know if i missed something in there.
Tell me if it opens again yes or no||

[supple sluice]

no

[stoic cedar]

||that area is closed forever, there is a missable relic in there||

[cursive lotus]

||I have dash, desolate dive, mothwing cloak, and mantis claw||

[spark cradle]

||I missed the whole lifeblood dlc||

[fathom bison]

||Your probably gonna need that key item.||

[supple sluice]

||You can't leave without the item unless you bought something earlier which you didn't||

Well I guess you could

[fathom bison]

well

[livid shoal]

||You can get out of peaks without Lantern a few ways||

[fathom bison]

Yeah.

None of them are what your looking for though.

[supple sluice]

||Darkroom resting grounds is kinda it without getting Heart||

[livid shoal]

So we don't wanna get ||D Nail?||
Just some Knight don't tap the spoiler

[fathom bison]

(A clean exit to ||crossroads/dirtmouth if im not mistaken, would be what your looking for.||)

[fathom bison]

||Theyre just asking for the way out to crossroads/dirtmouth, so no. Not yet.|| Dont open this one either

[supple sluice]

Get ||CDash and DDark imo|| first

[livid shoal]

I think they do have ||C Dash||

[fathom bison]

They do not.

[cursive lotus]

This is all I have in my inventory

[livid shoal]

Gg

[fathom bison]

||Conclusion: Find the key item inside peaks, and dip.||

[cursive lotus]

but this is a old image and now I have ||shopkeepers key and simple key||

[spark cradle]

||Can someone tell me the name of the boss in ancient basin that u can plan against in that dreamworld in is like the hardest boss no cap||

[fathom bison]

||Neither are the key item we've been talking about.||

[supple sluice]

||Get the thing in Peaks and then you can go to dirtmouth||

[supple sluice]

||Lost Kin ain't that bad||

[fathom bison]

||Lost Kin?||

||Hes not THAT bad||

[cursive lotus]

can I get a hint as to where the key is?

[supple sluice]

||All the way up, a little bit right, and all the way down and right||

[fathom bison]

||You need to do a full lap through the peaks.||

||Just make your way through the area, and you'll find it.||

[cursive lotus]

Okay, thanks everybody!

[ancient flame]

If you think ||lost kin is hard, you're not ready for the endgame bosses. Also, lost kin is one of the best boss in my opinion||

[spark cradle]

The dream version took me 2 hrs

[naive oriole]

||Lost Kin was the first boss that I seriously struggled with. Players often encounter him without the available resources that make him easy.||

[livid shoal]

That is the ||dream version|| 😭

[supple sluice]

||The first boss I struggled with was False Knight, but now I can deal with all of them||

[naive oriole]

I struggled with ||False Knight||, but not on the order of spending multiple days trying to beat him.

[supple sluice]

||Oh yeah the only one I actually struggled with was Nosk because I had nail 0 or 1||

[naive oriole]

I still struggle with ||Nosk|| tbh

When I do deathless runs, I save him for pretty late in the game.

[fathom bison]

Theres a certain but very weird rhythm to the fight.

[supple sluice]

indeed

[livid shoal]

||I took one day to beat False Knight, I didn't know you could just walk under him when he does his jumps :3||

[supple sluice]

I was the same

[naive oriole]

I guess in some technical way, ||False Knight|| actually took me many years to beat. I got to him in my first playthrough, then stopped at him because I couldn't beat him after a few tries, and then only picked up the game again after like 4 years.

[ancient flame]

You are talking about his ||dream version, right ? Because the normal one is a free kill||

[naive oriole]

Nope, I sucked hard at the game when I first played.

[ancient flame]

Bruh

I think I did ||false knight|| like 3rd try when I started the game

[naive oriole]

You know, I have all the achievements, and still kinda think I suck at the game.

[ancient flame]

You know, ||I did radiant NKG yesterday but I'm still dying in P3 to hornet||

[naive oriole]

||Hornet|| is friggin' hard! She killed me in my last deathless attempt.

||Radiant NKG|| I feel is only like, slightly harder than normal ||NKG||.

[ancient flame]

And when I survive ||to her, there is f*cking sly destroying me after because it's the first fight I'm using nail arts||

[hoary anvil]

all achievements ... i would say all achievements means you are pretty good at the game, but not among the top tiers yet (eg ||any rad|| players) - this is about where i would put myself personally

[ancient flame]

And I ||dash 3 times in a row to the wall because I suck||

[hoary anvil]

by chance do your controls impede you on this? iirc default controller controls having jump + attack on the letter keys causes some issues for those trying to do that

[supple sluice]

||Sly is the only boss you have to be patient with because he’s not patient with you||

[naive oriole]

Different controls can dramatically change your skill. I posted my key binds earlier, let me see if I can find it.

[hoary anvil]

as a keyboard player, i did not like the defaults but my controls are cursed according to my sibling who doesn't like my controls either

[naive oriole]

Here it is.

[ancient flame]

I just want ||nail arts to be a different key that my nail||

[hoary anvil]

use ||quick cast||

[supple sluice]

No

[ancient flame]

I'm a switch player

[hoary anvil]

real, this is an idea i was already planning on stealing for a game idea i had

[naive oriole]

My condolences.

[stoic cedar]

||to be honest, u dont need nail arts at all to beat sly, u can just hit him with regular nail swings. but nail arts do make the fight go by quicker||

[supple sluice]

You can change the bindings on switch too but there’s no reason too imo

I just use default

[ancient flame]

I use default

[hoary anvil]

iirc ||quick cast|| allows ||spells to be fired a bit faster due to the game no longer needing to check if you are holding down to heal or not||

[ancient flame]

Yes but he has more time to lock me in the corners. My bests options here are just to practice more.

[ancient flame]

Spells for ||sly|| aren't that good

[hoary anvil]

it was general advice on controls for that one

[naive oriole]

I don't think you should have to spoil this, since it's immediately visible to brand new players.

But yeah, I probably should. Might make ||spells|| a lot more usable for me. I'll just need to find a good binding.

[supple sluice]

||It does but I don’t give a crap cuz it takes longer for me to move my finger off of the dash trigger to the cast trigger than it does for me to move my thumb from jump to focus cast ||

I could get it with practice I just don’t wanna

[stoic cedar]

||eh spells for sly can be useful to beat him quicker, like u can fireball him when hes further away, or use ddark to dodge the dash slash or cyclone slash attack. but u certainly dont get as many chances to use spells as some of the other bosses||

[hoary anvil]

i also remember ||shriek being good against cyclone|| when watching others, haven't bothered trying that too much myself though. (i also heard here once that ||shriek knockback depends on the direction you're facing||, but i have not verified)

i'm going to pull up my cursed controls real quick

[stoic cedar]

||huh interesting, i have never used shriek against the cyclone slash attack since i always dodge that attack by going above sly||

[naive oriole]

Yeah, I usually panic-pogo that attack.

[hoary anvil]

I do not expect people to agree with my controls, but here they are. Thought process below:
||```md

• The first thing I did after starting was to move Jump to Spacebar
• Fingers rest on (unused Shift) A S C Space - comfortable hand positions may vary from person to person. Primary actions are where the fingers are (A attack, S spell, C dash, Space jump)
• Focus was originally S, but I swapped it for Quick Cast when I learned about it
• Movement was originally defaults (arrow keys), but got moved after I discovered a hardware issue where pressuing Space + [Up+Left]/[Down+Right] would drop the third input and freeze all other inputs until one of those got released. IJKL did not have this issue and also didn't require changing too much muscle memory

[stoic cedar]

for me, i got too used to the default controls to change them now lol

[naive oriole]

I can dig it.

[hoary anvil]

i usually ||bait it into the corner, then climb the walls and then sometimes air stall||

[teal rampart]

|| https://youtube.com/watch?v=YPelly-0Ez8&si=2MDsH_NzTnsHzvbG ||

[stoic cedar]

cant u just put the link in a spoiler?

[supple sluice]

You can spoiler links and then the popup will be spoilered

[teal rampart]

And I can't send it as a video because it's too much file for Discord to handle.

[hoary anvil]

^

(just wrap the link in ||)

[teal rampart]

Thanks for the help, I didn't know if it was really possible

I'm really sorry

[naive oriole]

Are you asking for fighting advice?

[teal rampart]

I just wanted to show how I'm playing my techniques and stuff and maybe ask for some tips for the final boss in case that damn ||pure vessel||

[naive oriole]

You were doing really well against ||PV|| until you got to the final phase. You're handling all of the attacks well except for the ||void tendrils||. Those are actually pretty easy to dodge though: the idea is to try and get above or behind ||PV||, which you can usually do with a combination of ||double jump and dash||.

[stoic cedar]

||for ur pure vessel fight, it looks like u got most of the fight pretty well, until the end, where u started panicking a little after getting hit and then got hit more. and from what i can tell u seem to be struggling a bit to dodge the void tendril attack. for the void tendril attack, if u are close enough to pure vessel, u can dash towards pv, pogo, and then go behind pv to get free hits when pv is finishing that attack. if u r too far from pv to do that, then u can try to stall in the air as long as possible, and then dash away from pv. the void tendrils dont span the entire arena so u can dodge it by outranging the tendrils. u can also ddark and use the iframes to dodge the tendrils if u have the soul||

[teal rampart]

It's actually a mistake I make a lot, the fact that getting close to the end of the battle makes me really excited and makes me make such idiotic mistakes that would make me reset if I were a little more impatient.

[naive oriole]

The only issue is that you're playing in a way that makes you susceptible to being unable to dodge, since you spend a lot of time in the air already and so you might have already exhausted your air movements when the ||void tendrils|| come out. You may want to try focusing on ground movement a little bit more during the final phase so that you minimize the chances of this happening. Only go in the air if you're preparing ||a dive|| or if you're actively dodging an attack.

[supple sluice]

I get greedy too sometimes

[teal rampart]

This is something I never noticed, I never realized that being in the air all the time can end up leaving me with no escape for some specific attacks.

[stoic cedar]

||tbh for me, i also jump quite a lot in the fight to anticipate attacks, so its not too big of an issue. the main thing im seeing about ur jumps tho is that u r constantly facing away from the boss, like u double jump away from pv, rather than jumping towards pv. i would suggest trying to constantly move towards the boss instead of away from the boss when u dodge attacks, it makes some attacks easier to dodge and u get more hits since u r closer to the boss more often. now specifically for the void tendril attack, if u r jumping towards pv instead of away, u can much more easily get above pv to pogo him and get behind him to get more free hits while he is finishing that attack||

[naive oriole]

||Pure Vessel|| took me a long time. But you seem to have developed good responses to his attacks. ||You can keep practicing in the Hall of Gods to get more consistent.||

[teal rampart]

I must have killed him two or three times, I don't remember exactly, but I feel like I trained and I think I just have to keep going to the ||pantheon|| and I'll get it eventually. I'm even trying now.

I've even already reached it

Let's see how far I'll go

[naive oriole]

I didn't attempt ||P4|| again until I beat ||PV five times in a row in the Hall of Gods||.

But you'll get it soon enough, and it'll feel awesome.

[supple sluice]

I just went for it after twice in a row

I got it though

[naive oriole]

Twice in a row can be a fluke. I wanted to be sure of myself.

[teal rampart]

Guys, I have some crazy news and I'm going to send the video in a little while. Calm down, I have to send it to my cell phone.

[supple sluice]

My man got ||radiant||on accident

[gloomy hollow]

yeah but you dont need to be 100% consistent tbf

you need to be like 60% consistent

maybe

even less

[teal rampart]

||P 4|| LET THE ||P5|| COME

[gloomy hollow]

the difficulty jump is massive

[supple sluice]

Not really

[gloomy hollow]

youll find out that the amount of skill you have is low, your sanity is gonna taper, and your love for the game will fade

[naive oriole]

5x in a row will eventually happen with 60% consistency.

[supple sluice]

Just the ||absrad|| difficulty jump

[gloomy hollow]

tags

they dont know about that yet

[teal rampart]

||The platinum will be credited to my account and I will be able to finish everything there is to do in this game||

[gloomy hollow]

also its not just about that its about the entire buildup

its a 30 minute cutscene to fight three hard bosses

[hoary anvil]

oh how i wish that ||no-hit ascended would automatically flag radiant, as the functionally difficulty is the same||

[supple sluice]

No that’s so📠

[teal rampart]

And now I can finally change my title from ||111% to 112%||

[gloomy hollow]

yeah but then you could accidentally skip ||second void idol||

[stoic cedar]

||oh man when i was grinding for radhog and was practicing gpz on ascended, one of the attempts i did it no hit but to my horror it didnt count, that was pain...||

[hoary anvil]

not really, you can always just ||intentionally damage tank a hit||
(||also, i *think* the flag still gets set as the higher one overrides||)

[thick wing]

Any tips for ||the radiance||? More specificaly ||phase 3||

[livid shoal]

||The Climb?||

[hoary anvil]

depends on what you mean by ||phase 3||

[teal rampart]

Don't die

[thick wing]

Climb

[livid shoal]

Hm

I'd say

[teal rampart]

The last time I was in a challenge and I died I didn't win it

[livid shoal]

Git gud at parkour

-# /J

[hoary anvil]

alright, so you aren't one of the ||phase 1 start, phase 2 spike floor, phase 3 sword rain|| people

[thick wing]

I know how to parkour but the boss is just|| hell.||

[hoary anvil]

(ngl i just don't use numbers when talking about them)

[stoic cedar]

lmfao when i read the wiki for that i was like wtf those are all the same thing

[hoary anvil]

||sword rain is distinct but...||

[supple sluice]

||I’d say sword rain is a phase but only barely||

[naive oriole]

Don't overthink it. Sometimes you need to hang in the air or ||dash|| through an attack, but otherwise you just need to move fast and minimize the chances of getting targeted with a blast you can't properly react to.

[hoary anvil]

(and this is why i avoid using numbers when discussing it)

[teal rampart]

I feel like a true gamer After having achieved ||112%|| My biggest achievement so far (in the gaming world)

[supple sluice]

Yep

[hoary anvil]

maybe do a ||black egg driveby in order to get the 112% completion achievement before having to bother with EtV||

[supple sluice]

You basically are and now you’ve unlocked #hk-discussion for your ||p5|| help /hj

[hoary anvil]

back on this, also consider trying to ||time your jumps to be in a good rhythm with the lasers to avoid getting caught in the air with the laser blocking access to the platform||

[thick wing]

ok thanks

[naive oriole]

It's an easy phase once you get the hang of it. The hard part for me was getting to that phase in the first place.

It's a bit nerve-racking though. The fight is quite well-designed.

[thick wing]

bro I am soo lucky that ||the radiance fight gives you a full heal first||

i was on ONE MASK

[hoary anvil]

(this is very useful, always focus on entering at ||full soul|| as a result)

[thick wing]

I did not, but I have|| soul eater|| so I should be good

[stoic cedar]

||on the climb phase, what u can also try to do is to "pull away" the beams. what i mean by that is to double jump a bit outwards to manipulate the beam to shoot more outwards, then dash back towards the next platform. ||

[supple sluice]

||Don’t dash unless you’re being targeted||

[thick wing]

did not die at the climb, but did at|| sword fall||

[naive oriole]

You'll get it soon enough!

[hoary anvil]

this is also true

[thick wing]

Hopefuly

[hoary anvil]

as a note i will generally do that at specific points, so basically i got an automatic flow with the specific things provided

[thick wing]

Currently I'm using ||soul eater, shaman stone, and strength|| is there anything that I should or should not be using?

[naive oriole]

Do you have all the ||charms||?

[thick wing]

Everything but ||greed||

[hoary anvil]

worth noting, if you're ||using mainly spells or reaching full soul frequently, catcher + twister will outperform soul eater||

[thick wing]

ok thanks for the note

[naive oriole]

||Quickslash|| is really helpful. Might be worth exchanging ||Soul Eater|| with it, especially since ||quick nail strikes gives you soul faster anyway.||

[thick wing]

k

[hoary anvil]

this is true, particularly it can also allow you to ||hit twice when jumping up from the floor before landing||

[thick wing]

I am going to try 3 runs with each

[supple sluice]

||i think If you’re basically perfectly going between slash and cast soul eater would be better cuz you’re gonna be canceling your sings anyways so it’s still fast but you get more soul||

[thick wing]

pls look six messages up

from yours

[teal rampart]

|| https://youtu.be/7Z1ZCWNERow ||

[hoary anvil]

i'll pull up some math as it may be relevant

[supple sluice]

||Yeah twister better than eater for sure||

[teal rampart]

It's just the match

[thick wing]

K I speedran the ||first and second phases|| like maybe 20 sec

[teal rampart]

There's only the final battle because it would be too big, it was ||20 minutes of pantheon inclusive||

[naive oriole]

Didn't even need to heal, very nice.

[teal rampart]

I don't like healing myself in this battle because it's very useless, after all you'll always take some damage or another, it's much more worthwhile for you to focus on dealing damage.

[stoic cedar]

||well u can take an extra hit if u heal once per stagger for two staggers, but yea generally its pretty useless||

[teal rampart]

||Now I'm going to kill the radiant one and it's normal to get my dream 112%|| (the achievement specifically)

[gloomy hollow]

nice, good job

112% is a big milestone

112 is obviously a much worse number than 118 but hk devs couldnt handle the greatness of it

[teal rampart]

||As incredible as it may seem, I got out of the habit of using radiance and now I can't get past it because I spent so much time just killing that bastard over and over again. pure vessel||

||Guys, I managed it after three attempts. I'm already in the final part of the radiance, it's time for the conquest||

[gloomy hollow]

gj

[hoary anvil]

said math:
||```md
so, for the spell increasing charms, the most important metric would be the ratio between the spell casts and nail swings, trying to optimize casts/swing -> minimize swings/casts

swings/cast = (soul/cast) / (soul/swing) with the soul amounts cancelling out.

general swings/cast (target: minimize, does not take into account the leakage of soul from using extra vessels by assuming you cast the instant you get access to it)
0 notches
none : 33/11 = 3
2 notches
catcher : 33/14 = 2.357...
twister : 24/11 = 2.182...
4 notches
eater : 33/19 = 1.737...
catcher twister : 24/14 = 1.714...
6 notches
catcher eater : 33/22 = 1.5
twister eater : 24/19 = 1.263...
8 notches
catcher eater twister: 24/22 = 1.091...

twister also has a few other advantages rather than just the numbers from casting the instant you can, those being:

• extra cast in succession from full - this will also be a benefit when you reach full soul, while the other generation charms will waste all of their effect when reaching that point.
• not increasing soul generation directly means you take a little longer to cap out, while still benefitting in the soul department.

[gloomy hollow]

all achievements i assume

[gloomy hollow]

but ||spells|| are boring and janky just hit everything with your nail

[hoary anvil]

as someone doing an itemless challenge who also normally runs a ||nail heal|| build, i already do that most of the time

[livid shoal]

Is this a joke or..?

[thick wing]

Ok I found out where the last charm notch is on my map and all I need to do is beat ||Grimm||!

[stoic cedar]

||well i know some ppl who love to use nail only and hate spells, so its probably not a joke||

[naive oriole]

I literally needed to install an HP bar mod to convince my caveman brain that ||spells|| actually are excellent

[livid shoal]

[supple sluice]

I just needed to try ||radiant watchers||

[polar portal]

theyre not though, ||nail spam|| is better

[naive oriole]

I'm still a nail dominant player, but there's a reason ||spells|| are the weapon of choice for speedrunners

They mow down enemies very quickly when needed.

I recently started a cursed randomizer run where I begin the run with only 1 mask. I could only use my soul on spells, so I was basically forced to adapt my play style

[gloomy hollow]

fair

i just hate em tho

[hoary anvil]

for those curious, in order for ||catcher to equal twister in the spell output assuming no leakage, it would need to be buffed to 15.125 soul per swing (+4.125 from base)||

[sinful temple]

Are there any tips for ||sentinel hornet || the fight is really hard

[hoary anvil]

(also, it looks like ||eater > catcher+twister ONLY if you're in extra soul vessels primarily (aka not using the spells)||)

[stoic cedar]

||the safest way to beat this boss is to play it patiently. wait for hornet to do an attack, then go on for a couple hits, back off, and wait for the next attack. if u go too aggressive u might end up taking too much damage||

also what is ur current ||charm build||?

[sinful temple]

||Quick focus longnail dashmaster grubsong ||

[stoic cedar]

can i see what other ||charms|| u have? just a screenshot of it is fine

[sinful temple]

Weird screenshot but I’m using ps today

Couldn’t normally screenshot

[gloomy hollow]

ok so you have 2 of the best ||charms|| i n the game

[stoic cedar]

||one possible charm build u could use is quick slash, shaman stone, spell twister||

[gloomy hollow]

||quick slash and shaman stone||

then its up to personal preference what else you add

[sinful temple]

I’ll try those

Still the main problem is dodging for now

[teal rampart]

||I'm done now with my percentages at maximum, I'm going after p 5||

Wish me luck because tomorrow I will start my training

[sinful temple]

Good luck

[sharp torrent]

||you're still missing one||

[thick wing]

I hate the|| radiance ||

[supple sluice]

I’m not sure if it’s intentional but I think that’s just cause they didn’t update their name

[main urchin]

I finally did it guys (and yes, today i buy the dlc) And I have a question. ||Do you know of any efficient way to farm Geo other than the coliseum or the spider zone?||

[thick wing]

Hang on you have to buy the DLC?

[main urchin]

For that npc?

Yes (I discovered it today too)

[thick wing]

I have it all fine and dandy and I only bought the base game.

[stoic cedar]

||one way is to bench in kings station and kill everything in the big room in city of tears left of kings station. circle back to the bench reset the enemies and repeat. another way is to go to the bottom of kingdoms edge and farm the tiny hoppers. u can exit and re-enter the room to reset the tiny hoppers. ||

[hoary anvil]

the what

[main urchin]

Oh, ||How much Geo does each trip give on average?||

[hoary anvil]

last i checked no...

[stoic cedar]

i have no clue, but its a pretty good amount

||not as fast as colo2 ofc but its still pretty fast||

[hoary anvil]

so what do you mean buying the dlc, considering that (at least on steam) they all come together as just the game?

[stoic cedar]

yea im pretty sure all the dlcs to hollow knight come for free

[main urchin]

||I found out today that to get the unbreakable amulets you have to have the Grimm DLC||, I guess you bought it in a pack that already came with the DLC that's why you didn't realize it

[stoic cedar]

the dlc is literally free tho

[hoary anvil]

where did you find that they are separate?

[main urchin]

It's that I bought in a hurry because of the excitement

[hoary anvil]

i hope you haven't been scammed by a pirating website...

[main urchin]

I searched for "Hollow Knight" on steam and hit buy (I didn't look at the DLCs or anything)

[thick wing]

The DLC is free But you may have bought this.

[stoic cedar]

yes that should come with the dlcs

[main urchin]

Yeah

[stoic cedar]

that looks like the soundtrack?

[hoary anvil]

ah yes, the soundtrack purchase ... doesn't add any game content

[thick wing]

Yep

[hoary anvil]

tempted to buy the soundtrack purchase for a while, but i haven't done that yet

[thick wing]

Im prob going to if that means I can just have it playing on my desktop

[hoary anvil]

if i do i should probably figure out how to edit the files so i can do things like ||split soul sanctum in half so the soul master theme isn't integrated ... that bothers me personally||

[thick wing]

yea I have no idea why that is

Does anyone know how to get HKMP set up?

[stoic cedar]

thats probably a better question for #modding-discussion

[thick wing]

ok yea

[bright sorrel]

[buoyant tartan]

any tips for ||KNG||?

i wanna practices him in ||godhome||

also the ||ritual ending||

[hoary anvil]

if doing that, i'd recommend "practicing" there - slightly longer time to get in in exchange for ||the achievement instantly on completion, and also not using crutches of extra charms||, after which point you can move to the other one.

[buoyant tartan]

the thing is ||im running P5.,.||

so yk beating him a few times wouldn’t hurt?

[hoary anvil]

i agree. so ||beat them the first time in dirtmouth, and then go back to the statue to practice a few more times after that||.

[hoary anvil]

anyways, is there any specific things you're struggling with?

assuming full game knowledge, ||shape of unn allows healing 3 on flame pillars which can be used to increase survivability significantly. some people also use sharp shadow, but i've never bothered with that.||

[limber galleon]

Plz no spoilers

[olive mirage]

before going foward, could you delete and resend that image and text with a spoiler tag?

@limber galleon

could you send a photo of your inventory as well? (with spoiler tags)

[limber galleon]

What part

[supple sluice]

||The part with the nail and rancid eggs ||

[stoic cedar]

||it looks like u already fully explored that portion of city of tears, r u asking about what to do next or what?||

[limber galleon]

I can’t get out

Of this area

[stoic cedar]

||just stag out of there||

[supple sluice]

There’s two or three ways to leave

[limber galleon]

There’s a wall blocking the path

[olive mirage]

Did you hit the lever?

[limber galleon]

No

[olive mirage]

Do that

[supple sluice]

I don’t think they can

[limber galleon]

Yea

[stoic cedar]

||what happens if u go left through that long corridor from where u r in the screenshot?||

[olive mirage]

||Stag|| is right here

[supple sluice]

||stag, left side of storerooms, and the big wall are all exits you can take right now||

[limber galleon]

Ttyl tonight, I gotta do hw

[limber galleon]

||Testing||

[limber galleon]

||I have ground pound, wall jump, long dash, normal dash||

[sturdy finch]

||go back to where you entered the city originally||

||ground pound will let you open up a path past that door that locked behind you||

[supple sluice]

Like I said you have three exits

Also killua

[limber galleon]

😂you like HXH?

[supple sluice]

Ya

[limber galleon]

Fav character?

[supple sluice]

Hisoka besides the stuff yknow

Anyways did you make it out of ||city||

[thick wing]

in my game that is closed

[warped kite]

||it needs a simple key and you have to interact with the thing next to it||

[thick wing]

ooooh I got it

thx

😎

[vivid fog]

tag ||simple key|| next time

?tag spoilers remember to read this

[languid radish]

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[vivid fog]

is this pic tagged or not to everyone else?

[stoic cedar]

its not tagged yea

[vivid fog]

ah

thanks

@thick wing ?tag imgspoilers

?tag imgspoilers

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[vivid fog]

make sure to tag your images/videos (including your message)

[vivid fog]

also remember to read this too

[thick wing]

sorry😭

[vivid fog]

it's all good

don't worry

[somber hill]

Pogwithnoers

[vivid fog]

rickwithboi

[vivid fog]

[somber hill]

[vivid fog]

[somber hill]

Wtf omg level

This

Is

[vivid fog]

[somber hill]

:3

[vivid fog]

:3

[limber galleon]

😂

[limber galleon]

Yes

[cursive lotus]

Hello everybody! I'm currently in ||Greenpath|| and right now I'm in the area right below ||Lake of Unn|| and I keep on dying. Could somebody help?

Hello?

[low garden]

can't really help with the matter of you dying its just platforming

do you want advice on a particular section or what

[cursive lotus]

I'd like advice on the part where you ||wall jump|| before using the ||crystal heart||

[low garden]

can you send a screenshot?

make sure to spoiler tag it

[cursive lotus]

one second, I have to get to the area first

here you go

I play on PlayStation so I have a hard time getting the image on my computer

@low garden

[low garden]

well whats the problem

[cursive lotus]

when I have to ||dash|| over the spikes I can never get it right

[low garden]

well just ||climb|| as high as you can, jump, and ||dash||

i cant exactly do it for you

[cursive lotus]

Okay, I'll try doing that. Thanks!

[simple island]

This platforming is really tight that’s just what it is

[edgy cosmos]

im in fungal wastes

mantis village is TERRIFYING

[simple island]

First off, please edit your messages with spoiler tags
Second off, yes.

[edgy cosmos]

i managed to get the ||wall climb|| but ITS TERRIFIYNG

i just want to get to that bug next to the bench

idk what it is

[simple island]

The big ||mantises should be treated like bosses
You can just spam attack near them and hope they die
You need to get one hit in, then back the fuck away||, go back in for one hit…

[edgy cosmos]

||not when theres like 100 flying ones and 3 ground ones and you're 1 hp because of the juicy water||

[simple island]

Yeah you can reach that one if you explore a bit in that room she is in

[quartz ice]

||Test||

[edgy cosmos]

what she do

[edgy cosmos]

just highlight words and click the eye

[simple island]

Working

[quartz ice]

ok

[edgy cosmos]

first playthrough

is it supposed to be easy

wait i forgot

u have to put the eyeball thingy

[simple island]

It really depends on how much experience you have
Some people struggle but mechanically the boss isn’t complicated at all

[edgy cosmos]

where would you go from ||fungal wastes||

[quartz ice]

||Anyone know if when you find the massive moss charger and u start the boss fight but left the room will it be there later? ||Want to go back later.

[simple island]

Yeah if you leave they are still here to be fought

[quartz ice]

nice

[simple island]

Generally nothing is missable in this game

[simple island]

Either go deep in ||mantis village, or explore one of the other paths that lead out of fungal||
You just got ||claw||, so new path can be taken

[edgy cosmos]

what new path can be taken with the|| wall jump||

[stoic cedar]

||a lot of different paths open up with wall jump, i would suggest that u explore urself a little first before seeking guidance||

[simple island]

There is one to the left near ||queen station, and one to the right
Generally your map tells you which paths are left to be explored ||

[crystal tide]

| yes reply ping

[edgy cosmos]

||when i was in the first area (the one that starts at the well) i found a switch inside an elevator looking thing but on either side it was locked, what is that?||

[crystal tide]

if you couldn't do anything leave it for later

just continue exploring

[edgy cosmos]

||ok but it will be a pain trying to get out of fungal wastes (those green mushrooms that make homing bombs are terrifying)||

[crystal tide]

nah, just be careful

[edgy cosmos]

but im trying to bounce on the purple mushrooms

and i land in some juicy water

[crystal tide]

😭

tag in case

but that area is cool for me tho

iijust kinda can agree that it could be painful sometimes

but rlly enjoyable

[edgy cosmos]

||i got longnail, what should i get next || ||(charms)||

||fast focus or shaman stone||

a

what is this and what does this effect do

[civic pier]

Gm chat

[civic pier]

||fast focus helps you heal faster but shaman stone gives more spell damage, which is superior in this||

Also if you find ||quick nail|| you'll be happy with longer range and faster speed

[spark cradle]

||i gave the flower yesterday back and returned but i dunno what i received||

[civic pier]

Hmm ig you got progress,no?

That is a reward in and on itself

[spark cradle]

Nvm i know now again ||one shard of the mask||

[muted notch]

||In what order should i try to achieve all endings to have to take the least amount of playthrought||

[stoic cedar]

||how many endings have u done / how many endings do u know about? not sure how much to spoil here||

[muted notch]

||Someone told me there are 5 and what those 5 are but I havent done any
Got the void heart tho||

[stoic cedar]

||which 5? there are technically 6 endings but one of the endings is just a bonus ending that is added onto any of the other endings||

[muted notch]

These

[stoic cedar]

||which endings have u already done?||

[dark viper]

He said none

But one is locked already so

[muted notch]

Yea ik

That's why i ask

[stoic cedar]

||u r already locked out of the hollow knight ending, ull have to do that one on a separate save file. but the other endings are still possible||

[muted notch]

||And in which order should i do them||

[stoic cedar]

||mr. mushroom quest, sealed siblings, dream no more, embrace the void, delicate flower ending (this ending is completely optional)||

[muted notch]

Ok ty

[dark viper]

Im doing it basicly reverse lol

[stoic cedar]

||u doing EtV before radiance??||

[dark viper]

Well no but my first was ||dream no more||

My 2sd will likely be EtV

[stoic cedar]

||i mean sealed siblings is just dream no more but u dont fight radiance, that one is really easy to get||

||and mr. mushroom quest is easy only if u look at the wiki||

[slim harness]

||sealed siblings is basically the hollow knight but with void heart||

[dark viper]

Slightly easier fight

[dark viper]

I will get ||sealed siblings after finishing everything in godhome||

[forest pewter]

slightly more like negligible

[deft osprey]

is the bench to ||broken vessel really that far away ?|| I don't mind grinding but seriously needing to go all that just to retry is unpractical, did I miss something ?

[stoic cedar]

||there is a breakable wall near the broken vessel arena which opens a shorter path to broken vessel||

||so that u dont need to go through that entire bottom part||

[deft osprey]

ah ? do I need to be ||in the arena to break it ?||

like right ||before he wakes up?||

[stoic cedar]

||no, go up from where u r currently, and then instead of going left towards the broken vessel arena, go to the right and there is a breakable wall||

[deft osprey]

I'm so fucking dumb I shoulda just looked right omg 😭 thank you :3

[stoic cedar]

🙏

[deft osprey]

Y'all please tips for ||broken vessel || ? he's not that hard but I can't find a good time to heal myself, when am I supposed to?

[stoic cedar]

||u should only go for heals when its staggered. broken vessel staggers quite often so u should get multiple opportunities to get heals in||

[dark viper]

U dont rly need to heal but ig u can when he is staggered

[deft osprey]

hm okay, thank you, back to selling my soul

[dark viper]

Gl

[deft osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/470705834264100886.webp?size=512&name=blobSalute

is this good for ||broken vessel ? Gathering swarm is just there cuz why not, I only had one notch left and better than waste it since I had no other single notch charm||

[slim harness]

What ||charms|| do you have

[slim harness]

That seems fine

[stoic cedar]

||steady body is pretty good against broken vessel if u can get used to it||

[slim harness]

I was gonna say

[deft osprey]

really ? but then I won't have space for the other ones

hang on

[slim harness]

You don’t have to thiugh

[slim harness]

Yesh you will

[stoic cedar]

||replace swarm with steady body||

[slim harness]

||gathering swarm||

[deft osprey]

so this ?

[stoic cedar]

looks good

[slim harness]

Looks fine

[deft osprey]

completely forgot about that one thanks y'all !! wish me luck and insanity

[dark viper]

Gl

Dw he isnt that hard

[deft osprey]

I'm scared 😭

[dark viper]

U coule also do him leter when u get more charms

[dark viper]

Dont be brave knight

[deft osprey]

he isn't but it can get overwhelming with all to keep track of

[dark viper]

It can

[deft osprey]

I'm not brave knight I'm just night uwu

[slim harness]

Yeebies

[dark viper]

Focus on killing the ghosts asap dont let them stack up

[dark viper]

[deft osprey]

yeah they fuck up my healing, I will

alright, let's do this.

[dark viper]

Good luck

[deft osprey]

6th attempt 😭

[dark viper]

Dw some bosses take long

Its part of the game

Its what makes winning so satisfying

[deft osprey]

yeah but grinding isn't very rewarding till the very end :/

[dark viper]

I dont agree rly

[deft osprey]

it would really help to have a health bar for him tbh

[deft osprey]

I mean I do build up the muscle memory and stuff but still

[dark viper]

One of the hardest bosses took me abt 40 attempts but i could feel myself getting better slowly but surely

[stoic cedar]

none of the bosses ull fight have a health bar, this is just a thing ull have to get used to

[deft osprey]

dang it

[dark viper]

At the beggining i died on 1st phase but after some time i could make it to 2sd consistantly then 3rd

[dark viper]

U can get a mod that shows boss hp if u want

[deft osprey]

alright then, I shall continue

[deft osprey]

I prefer to start vanilla, mods later tbh

[dark viper]

The process of learning and improving is hella fun for me

[deft osprey]

hm I suppose I could find the fun in the pain

[dark viper]

So do i, im just saying u have an option if u want

[deft osprey]

yeah I will if it gets too frustrating, thanks :3

[dark viper]

Just wait till u have to do all the bosses hitless lol

I mean u dont have to but u can

[deft osprey]

oh god

[dark viper]

Its fun tho

Ive 28 hitless

[deft osprey]

[dark viper]

16 more to do

[stoic cedar]

||me getting flashbacks to my 7 hr grind for abs rad radiant|| 💀

[dark viper]

Ok some are not fun

But like cmon|| failed champ or hornet are super fun to radiant||

But well then there are ||oblobbles zotes and abs rads|| ofc

Not all are fun

Most are tho

[deft osprey]

okay no I'm sorry but I'm too perfectionist to grind this I'll come back later

[stoic cedar]

||cant forget about markoth, the one that literally everybody complains about the most||

[dark viper]

I dont even wanna talk abt him

And ||gpz||

[dark viper]

Dw

U r missing some strong ||charms||

Did i need to tag that

[deft osprey]

that too, I'll get em as well

where do I buy the good ones ?

[stoic cedar]

yea just to be safe

[dark viper]

Ok

[dark viper]

Just explore

U find some u buy some

Just explore have fun u will find most naturally

[deft osprey]

Ok

[bright vigil]

@long kettle i finally beat ||nkg||

set i used

[slim harness]

Gg

Well done

[dark viper]

This build makes it even more impressive then normally

Good game dude

[bright vigil]

thanks

[bright vigil]

fast recovery seemed like the most comfy option

[dark viper]

Thats cool abt this game that there is no 1 best playstyle

[stoic cedar]

Hi, ull need to spoiler tag ur msg and image, this channel has rules regarding spoilers (no matter how small the spoiler might seem like)

[dreamy bolt]

Sorry

[stoic cedar]

No worries

Ehhh technically that is a spoiler, even tho it is very early into the game

[dreamy bolt]

I don't know how to tag images

[stoic cedar]

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

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[dreamy bolt]

||i wanna know what to do now because i am uh stuck at this game now and i have killed two bosses one is a fat guy with a barb and one was a insect with a sac and i don't know what to do now||

[dreamy bolt]

Is this good

[stoic cedar]

Yep!

[stoic cedar]

||at this early stage of the game, I would really suggest buying the quill at iselda’s shop and just start exploring any unexplored areas shown on the map. Unless uve already given up and want specific guidance on where to go?||

[dreamy bolt]

Would really like that

Because I am tired of killing enemies

[stoic cedar]

||do u see that room in the middle of ur map with a menacing looking icon? Try to head to that room||

[stable marlin]

Hi all! I just have 2 quick questions:
||1) Is NKG considered a Dream Boss?
2) Do fragile charms break if you die to a dream boss?||

[warped kite]

Hi
1.||Technically yes but it doesn't give any Essence||
2.||no they don't break cause you technically didn't die||

[stable marlin]

Thanks

[warped kite]

You're welcome

[dreamy bolt]

||sorry I went out but i think youre talkin' about the room which has no way to get out it has like uh iron bars||

[stoic cedar]

||I think u r thinking of the wrong room, there is definitely a way to get to the room I described earlier||

[alpine comet]

random question(answer carefully) do you like ||sharp shadow ||?

[stoic cedar]

I don’t use it at all so I don’t have a particularly strong opinion about it

[alpine comet]

hmm

[storm lichen]

get ||the quill from the shop in dirtmouth. it fills out the map ||

[dreamy bolt]

||tired of killing enemies for those shell||

[storm lichen]

its only like 50

[livid shoal]

120 🤓

Or 180

Can't remember:3

[dreamy bolt]

||oh my thank you||

[late crow]

Tips to beat this boss please

[livid shoal]

||Y'know about the chandelier?||

[late crow]

I don’t think soo

Maybe yes but I don’t khow good english maybe explain to me

[livid shoal]

||Secret room right before the arena and you cut a rope to crush one of the Watchers||

[late crow]

Where is it

Please

With one only in arena is going to be easy

[livid shoal]

||Right before the arena, breakable ceiling||

[livid shoal]

What

There's gonna be 5

[late crow]

…

Wtf

I didnt even got past 2

[livid shoal]

😭

[late crow]

Nah its impossible what

[livid shoal]

||Literally just D Dive||

Trivializes the fight

[late crow]

What is d dive

I only have normal dive

[livid shoal]

||Down spell||