#hk-help
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agree with everyone
Fuck ||NArts||, +||Pantheon is funnier||
@inland moon
||Colo3|| was harder for me than even ||P4||. Good luck whenever you attempt it.
wow damn
mildly cracked 
cracked like the celste
kracking your life
only cuz of the ppl here
all me ofc
ofc,,
seriously though glad we could help
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Pogoing is hard...
yeah kinda
yeah the community is rly amazing :DD lots of frens i made here that helped a lot & in general were amazing to be around
Wait when did you start playing again?
will you be helping in the future?
week ago
Dammn, more playtime than what I had in one and a half months
she has loads of time ig
yep
||PV requires me to pogo on 2 of their attacks...||
Ik she said she was sick for some time too
that's awesome to hear about 
that will change now but yeah i started getting sick last week and my friend gifted me hollow knight for my bday and i never got to start it, so then i did
Never lose that friend
will you be helping?
wdym?
the real question 
that would be very cool
helping others in this channel 
helping people here
already basically recovered š just a bit slimy but otherwise i feel great
awesome
ofc, gotta pass down the legacy! :D
yippee 
we dont help in here though
its hk minus all the help
true true
especially @daring moatneeds a lot of help (mentally) || WHO TF LIKES GPZ AND COLLECTOR ||
SMHHHHH
exorcism might be needed....
||gpz|| is fun
consider trying them out on ||all bindings and you may reconsider||
ok that one i can semi agree with
||and all the counting you do||
i like ||gpz|| hes very fun
||collector is fun... without bindings ||
jeezums
i am very tempted to absolutely not do that
shut
you should it's actually very fun 
shut
You gonna help? Need help on ||PV|| rn
so painful
i will absolutely not do anything else before i finish || HoG Radiance :D ||
based
||absrad|| is hard, like really hard but also easily one of the best fights in the game
Trust me, you'll feel your heartbeat during and after thr ||climb phase||
yes i meant that one
very true
probably LOL i havent reached that one yet tho
Lmao I almost ran into the attacks when I redid that one because it was slow
I remember riding that high for days
im currently riding the || pv high that fight is so cool and took me so long ||
Though I wonder, when you've gotten to a point where ||absrad|| is easy, do you get a ||grimm|| situation?
wdym
probably that u cant rly fight the || easier version anymore ||
oh yeah
Yeah exactly
i struggled with || grimm a lot after nkg cuz everything was so slow ||
somewhat
No joke I have ||radiant nkg but no radiant tmg yet||
you can use ||qslash|| for moderate cheese but yes
hahah damn
||do i need to explore all the zones in the game to beat it?||
I really hate ||tmg|| for being too easy
no but you should
idk if im just 50 iq but || i barely use spells like with barely i mean BARELY and i dont think i ever used a nail art in a fight just once,, ||
oki
but somehow everything worked out til now
you should learn to
you'll learn quickly with how skilled you are
ooga booga just hitting like a monkey also works
and btw use ||quick cast instead of focus||
wdym
Itās not impossible to beat the game without using them but using them can really help beat bosses faster which is really useful in ||P5|| where you want to beat a boss asap with the least health lost
@tawny sapphireIDK IF U NOTCIED BUT I BEAT ||P4 EARLIER IM SO HAPPY ||
?tag qc iirc
Comparison of ||Focus Cast vs Quick Cast||
||Video Link (Note: By default, A is the Focus button, F is the Quick Cast button. However, this video has it set so that F is Focus and V is Quick Cast)||
use the ||quick cast key||
wtf
yeah but tbh i play bosses really slow
my ears
@narrow gyro this
yeah why so loud
Dyno evil
I nearly woke up the rest of the house lmao
KarK 
You donāt wanna do that, ||P5|| is already 45m normally
yeahh i noticed
you can bring it down to 30m oretty easily with ||spells||
And if you die in the later half thatās like 30+ minutes down the drain
it's not too hard if you spam them
Itās 45 with ||spells||
I can get 30 without trying
Spoonsei beat ||P5|| in 15m
||spells|| needs tags
Done
Sometimes, ||I feel like I'm becoming better at avoiding PV's attacks, other times, I'm just trash and die within the 10 first seconds of the fight||
real same
||Pogoing their lunge and parrying their triple slash is the most important key to win the fight||
It is also where I struggle the most
i just || dashed both tbh ||
Unless ||PV decides to do it twice in a row and you're fucked||
nahh
Are you saying nuh uh to ||PV||'s attack??
yes c: and he listens
Sometimes, I wonder how you beat ||P4||
Blud said "nuh uh" and it worked
I forgot about ||DDark I frames|| actually
me too man me too
I have to understand something, why does everyone keep saying ||Steady Body's good||?
it's not that useful imo
but ||you can sideslash instead of upslash on the floor swords||
||I use twister||
||sbody is good wall incoming||
can someone help me at ||p3||.Im always losing health when fighting ||the collector|| or die to him.And in the ||God tamer fight|| I have (when im lucky one mask left).Please help me
Which || attacks r u strggling with collector?||
Cuz imo he|| is not that bad compared to other bosses in p3||
sometime i cant hit all of the small guys and i also often get contact damage to ||the collector||
||from collector||
Use your ||spells|| if you can't reach them
Wel||l. For problem one. Equip shaman stone then blast all critters with shade soul. 2nd, u could use sbody to avoid walking into him. But imo just learn to not get hit withput sbody, saves one extra notch UwU||
Whats ur set
And also what do you have
|| unbreakable strenght, grubsong,spell twister,unbreakable heart,mark of pride||
||and all abilities spells||
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also tags!!!
and even more
||Well for a start , u could remove MoP. Since its like a training wheel. U should get used to normal nail length. U could downgrade it to longnail thats fine. Then maybe put soul catcher. But for me i would replace heart with shaman stone for more damage. Then one last notch would be sbody ig||
Heh, i didnt even realuxzend
is ||sbody steady body||?
Yes
Goodluck bbg
Idk what charms to put for ||P4 part 2||
U could trai||n in HOg if u want||
||MoP insult is unacceptable, MoP is a fantastic charm||
british broadcasting group??
typically people just add on ||grubsong and steady body||
ty
||Dream Weilder and NMG||
||Erm spell twister? UwU. Or u could do sbody and grubby||
you can also use ||sprintmaster|| if youre a little crazy(like me)
Please stop that ||Steady Body|| cult, it's not useful
Whatās the point of ||sprintmaster||
Th||en NMG and sumthin else ig||
Itās a good ||charm|| just depends on who you ask
Run
hi chatr
Hi turd
?ban @rigid fractal
But it's not good (at least for me)
NOOOOOO
||Dream Weilder and Grubsong||
until you look at how much itll save you
like try getting optimal damage on ||lost kin||
Wrong reply ||but i understand. I also dont use sbody much. Only during radHoG. I prefer NMG over it||
I just use my nail and kill them with little problem
Outside of against ||FC||, when is ||Dream Wielder|| useful?
Erm ||watcher kightsn||
Quick s||oul then balst with abyys shrek when they r waking up||
||uumuu
fc
watcher knights
staggers||
||Uumuu in P4||?
Lmao real
yes
D||reamnail during PV Stagger dont do anythin||
Your game is probably bugged
Nah bro's game is just built different
His|| godhome extends until P12||
Feel like ||DWeilder|| won't do much for me, I think I'll use ||SShadow, Spell Twister or Heart||
They are talking abt the other one
||Use Twister||
||twister|| is by far the best one
||gpz, uumuu, watcher knights, collector, failed champ, oro mato, god tamer and any boss that can be staggered and dnailed in a stagger|| and im pretty sure i missed a couple
(I was talking about ||P4|| but sure)
oh
well
So outside of ||WK|| none of them are relevant
not really, no
to the discussion
Might as well use the almighty ||Wayward Compass||
ohman......
||for oro & mato, is there a quick way to determine which one is doing the nail art? i know they look slightly different, but do their charging up animations differ?||
Nope and it doesnāt really matter
||should just d dark both i guess?||
Just damage tank that attack imo, you can easily dodge the other attacks so you should have enough health to do that
||first phase is easy because i know it's gonna be a dash slash but the cyclone messes me up sometimes||
||doing radiant||
Why using ||spells|| doesn't feel natural against ||PV||
Ohh yeah no you canāt
Idk it does to me
The thing is, I can't drop ||Shaman|| for the other bosses of ||P4 part 2|| but now I have a 3 notches dead charm for ||PV||
||d dark really good for the orbs no?||
No not really you have a couple places you can use ||spells|| effectively
What are you talking about?
||can i frame the light orb attack||
Are you talking about ||Radiance||?
||might get some damage in as well||
||if you shade cloak through his Triple slash you can turn around and hit him with a shade soul double hit.
When he does the void tendrils attack you can dash above him and DDark him
In the soul orbs attack you can DDark next to him and continue attacking without worrying abt the orb||
||nah, pure vessel||
The ||focus attack he does||
||the attack where he focueses im guessing||
what he said
oooooh
sorry, not sure what to call it
||focus orbs or soul orbs ig||
yeah makes sense
Every attacks they pull off fucks me hard, there's none of them that doesn't constantly hit me
||You need to have multiple ways to dodge an attack from any position||
That's impossible for me
If I'm too close ||the lunge and triple slash will get me for sure||
||jump and pogo those||
||practice jumping proactively, that helped me a lot, trying to be reactive like you can against thk doesn't work as well||
If I don't have my ||shade dash, the staggers will hit|| and if I'm too dumb, ||it's the pillars||
youre too close
Too fast
gotta space correctly
||staggers|| should not hit you if youre decently far away
If only my nail was longer
it's not about the length, it's how you use it 
If I'm too far, I don't see them coming until it's too late
I'm talking about my nail
generally you dont get hit by the ||stagger on the triple slash and lunge|| if you pogo it
for the ||daggers you can use a shade soul instead if youre scared, theres also a decent bit of time to line yourself up. you can also pogo it during the dive||
||pogoing the dive|| is actually more lenient
||Pogoing Triple Slash is my main issue, I sometimes succeed to pogo and deal dmg to PV but most of the time, bad timing and I get hit||
it has a pretty big||diagonal hitbox behind it||
you can also play it safe and ||double jump||, which should give plenty of height. and you can also ||pogo if you go too early||
If I go too early, I get hit
thats what ||shade cloak|| is for as well
its typically for a ||triple slash or lunge and instant teleport into a second attack, but you can also use it to save yourself||
But I need ||my shade cloak|| for the ||daggers||
||or accidental parry right?||
youll have plenty of time for that attack
yeah that too
I'm getting a little more consistent with the parry aswell
||nice, pv is like nkg in that the more time you put into it, the better you get, it's really consistent once you get it down||
Ironically, not counting the joke that are considered as bosses by the game, ||NKG is my third or 4th Rad boss (Mantis Lords, False Knight, Troupe Master before)||
And the 3rd I did because I wanted to
||all great examples of fights that are rewarded by learning them, no rng funny business||
I did like ||Big Moss, False Knight and Joke Guardian|| before him not because I wanted to but because I could
Like those trash bosses you do because you know you'll do them all so you start with them
||best charms for 1st trial colleseum of fools?||
||MoP and Sharp Shadow are good as long as Shaman Stone I'd say||
That is a really really really deep question
||Shaman, QS, Dream Wielder and Defenderās Crest||
Hi hk-hel(l(p))
Hello
||dreamwielder really good for colos if you learn which enemies to keep alive||
I wish to know
||The shield guy is the best||
alright ill try out those charmsšš¾
Th ||Defender's Crest suppose to do||?
||Just an add on cause no other good charm||
Well each boss has its own different setups and Strats with ||flukes|| so my only real suggestion is to watch ||p5|| runs and ask in #speedrunning or hksr #il-combat if you have any questions
Aight
||exactly, carried me my first time through colos, mistakes work too||
Actually ||Shaman, QSlash and Sharp Shadow||
Ignore the last one done use it
ohh alright, ill switch to those šš¾
||quickslash and sharp shadow arenāt good options for Colo since you want to focus on high damage output, which neither of them do||
||Sharp Shadow|| is the 2nd best charm
||sharp shadow hater gang rise up||
In the F tier
fuck y'all btw
2nd best charm at being useful for only movement
rude
Well damn
.
It helped me for so many fights
||only time i'd use sharp shadow is speedrunning pop and i ain't doing that||
In what way?
hi chat
It has two functions either of which are useful
@visual mist ||personally I would say fragile strength, shamans stone, and then a 2 notch/1 notch combination like dream wielder and steady body||
They donāt know how to use ||flukes||
||flukenest sucks||
HOW??
||flukenest probably not great for colos especially the first time||
not convenient most of the time
||flukenest|| literally outclasses ||Strength||
Forgive my accidental unnecessary spoiler please, the message has been edited.
no...
well its good for ||collo||
||really takes practice to use efficiently and this person probably doesn't use spells to begin with||
its fine i already knew about it before
Not for ||colo|| but ||pantheons||
No, theyāre right, as intended, ||flukes|| are ass, and even with the glitches theyāre only good for bosses or AOE attacking.
NO
Yeah but still I meant to say ||shamans||
Wdym no? ||flukes|| are good for ||pantheons|| IF and ONLY IF you know the Strats
Yea no glitches definitely a F tier charm but we love spaghetti code
when in doubt, ||shamans||
||Gave me length to my dashes for PV, allowing me to deal dmg to bosses that I would have more trouble attacking otherwise like PV, Traitor Lord at the time and NKG, killing mobs and getting to a safe spot against Lost Kin and Rad Soul Warrior||
alright ig ill go to the colo now and fight wiht those charms
Watch literally any ||pantheon|| speedrun
Okay but like this is still just proving that itās only useful for movement
And even still all of the things youāve mentioned can be done in a very similar/exact same fashion without it
also its bad against ||dream warriors and pretty much anything flying||
Aint bad against ||Soul Master||
I wonāt deny that the ||40% dash speed increase|| is useful for movementāespecially in TAS and ||pop|| but it doesnāt make it good in combat
Youāre right, itās not bad for ||soul master||, itās pretty terrible for ||soul master||
nuh uh
it honestly just isnt worth it to ||change a spell for 3 notches||
Yes it is, when the change gives it the ability to do up to 700 damage
Granted, again, that you know the Strats
||as said before I recommend watching a pantheon speedrun||
HIIII
howd u eep
||gg shiro 112||
oh i woke up like 7 hours ago
oh. answer the question.
oh good
guess what i did earlier .
what
youre supposed to guess š || did p5 and died horribly and now been on radiance for 3? i think hours to practice ||
oh oops
||absolute radiance right||
yes
yes :D slowly
its a bit annoying tho,,,
tomorrow || p5 or im a horrible failure which brings shame to my family š ||
no u arent euadkwada
||well my fragile strenght is broken, any replacement for that, im in the 2nd trial now||
that will be decided tomorrow.
oh
just like when i went to sleep at 4 am || because the white palace beat me. failure. š ||
š
i wont forget u trying manipulate me š¤Ø
what š±
MHM. Now I sleep. Glorious day today and another one ahead tomorrow š life is good
erm isnt it only 8
9 and i got a headache š
||cant get in p5, done all previous pantheons, have dream nail and void heart. cant see anything else needed on the wiki ||
are you sure you are in the right place
||above p4||
thats wrong
||no?||
yeah
well have you done ||p5||?
me yed
what
yes
its at the ||top of godhome||..
suscat
hi sussycatty
weird looking cat
.... ||u need to ring the bell before p5 opens I think||
u have to use spoiler tags suscat
She hates helping
yeah she's mostly a bully

||mostly is overkill||
SHRUE
i love doing exactly that
sure if you want
no
gud luck
o
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bro pls activate windows š š
nah uh
ok sorry
should probably spoiler tag these
oooh, activate that
i didnt?
u didnt
i did what happens now
|| dirtmouth ||
||check dirtmouth, in german its ,,mistmund"||
thats a horrible name
ik lol
what would be the ,||,easiest" boss on radiant?||
i want my|| hall|| to look cooler
||the ones you're comfortable with is the honest answer||
ik bro
||i'd go for galien, dung defender and maybe uumuu first||
ok, thx
||go for a spell/soul build for all three honestly and abuse shade soul double hits for uumuu, d dark for defender and shriek for galien||
|| vengefly for suree ||
idk why i find thoose lowk hardš
D:
yo whats a good charm loadout for the ||failed champion or whatever his name is||
idk I feel if u play passive and just react instead of being proactive its chill
||nail based because soul is limited, strength, quickslash, maybe dream wielder||
spoilers bro
||make sure to dream nail the maggot for soul once he is staggered||
||dung defender||
literally u
buddy
||how many notches do you have? + send a pic of your inv||
im tryna send a photo of my inv but its not letting me gimma sec
yeah
i am NOT ||dung defender||
how does one dodge ||nkg pillars ||with 100% accuracy and walk into every single ||pv pillar||
make it make sense
cause ||pv|| is hard
|| pv pillars are thicker at the bottom than ngk and come up slightly faster ||
yep
@lavish bluff @sleek plover
its rly chill, can even || heal during the ngk pillars ||
||shaman, dream wielder, mop, sprintmaster|| imo. ||when you have staggered him, go behind him, hit his shield, dream nail, hit shield, dream, hit shield dreamnail, and if you need to heal, do hit, heal, hit heal, ect. then get back to full soul. then hit the maggot to wake it up, then go into the corner and spam spells, then if he still isnāt staggered, hit him a couple times, stagger him, then repeat||
||failed champ isn't going anywhere and is a really hard fight, you can always go get stronger and come back later, the fight isn't one you need to do asap||
||best charms for colo, fragile strength is broken now and I have 9 notches, 2nd trial colo||
||ive beaten all the dreamers already, so not much else to do and i dont want to fight the hollow knight yet||
||whats mop||
||you're missing some of the best charms in the game so there's plenty to do||
||mark of pride||
||if you wanna get stronger that is||
okok
do i need those charms for the fight?
it's not necessary, but very helpful
||think of failed champ as one of the last bosses of the game||
||so if you're having trouble with him, don't feel bad about it||
||failed champ|| is one of the last bosses in ||p5||, right?
is that a good build for ||radiant watcher knights||?
si
hy I want to take this ||larva|| but I don't know how to get it, would you be where the road is?
||i went with shaman, strength, quickslash, dream wielder and soul eater, think it's a little more optimal||
mmmmmmmmmmm ||breakable walls||
ok, thx
yes but i dont find a walls to acces *
it isnt
how come?
||twister catcher is roughly 8% more efficient with spells||
This is why I'm ||catcher's|| biggest fan
that's really good to know, thank you
||soul catcher|| just feels so good to use, hard to tell whether it's actually better or not
i'm glad we have actually knowledgable players here lol

listen to these guys instead of me pls
pretty much ||the same as twister||
||In the delicate flower quest info it says it will break when taking damage / using stag travel, but does it break when using the tram? Also how many attepmts do I get?||
nah this build is great, takes only ||10-15 secs to kill the first guy||
||that's so crazy, twister and catcher both feel not that impactful on their own||
||i mean twister's four at a time is nice but i guess both of their effects make a difference over time||
||doesn't break with tram, you can try as many times as you like, even if the mourner will cry about it
||
||what would you suggest for an overcharm build then?||
the other person's build is fine
||thanks a lot, also does it matter if I do 1 attempt for some achievement, or does it not matter||
thanks
which one do you mean?
You have an infinite amount of attempts just go back and talk to ||Zeāmer and sheāll give you a new flower (after telling you off)||
okay
You get a ||mask shard|| tho
Tags
||not first try, as long as you get it done||
havent tried since my first try || only been spamming absolute radiance in HoG earlier but now im in bed ||
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Yeah that's good. ||absrad|| is basically the only hard thing in here lmao
The only hard part about ||AbsRad|| is the attacks ||overlapping||
yep
agreed
Wait
I love not scrolling up
it seems untagged though
im sorry
It is
execution will be shortly
NO
what about ||markoth||
snoozefest
i have spent more time practicing ||markoth than absrad||
and i cant beat ||ascended markoth but i beat radiant absrad||
|| huh rly?? i mean the arena is a bit annoying but he dies sooo fast idk i did 1 try him earlier ||
yo im literally the goat
i did play it very safe tho,, || healing when he spins his shield is super easy ||
7th try
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||is using a mark of pride skill issue? more i play the more i wish i had shaman on in pantheons instead||
try to get out of it
im addicted to it tbh and im trying so hard to quit
its a single player game so everything is (not) a skrill issue
with both of them you really feel the absence when you really need them
Hi tkd
and you wish you had the other when you don't
after withdrawal youll be fine
i used to be like you, using ||mop and sharp shadow||
||you can almost always position better to make mop not as important whereas extra spell damage is not something you can make up through skill is how i see it||
||also doesn't shaman give more double hits as well||
||i'm taking the shaman pill rn||
yes
||friendship ended with mark of pride, now shaman is my best friend||
but it feels so good..
so so good
for everyone who plays on ps,what key configuration do yall use? like x to jump ecc.. bc i often missclick or i get confused
|| mop ok maybe but u won't get the sharp shadow out of me ||
dont do drugs kids
||d darking through the side effects it's alright||
lmao
i wish there could be stats after the credits or something because im sure my || spell || usage would not reach three figures
during my whole playthru
We have mods for that
i don't like using mods in any game idk
Thatās fair but like full English voice acting and fan made dlc
hmm
||little radiance skin is so good i'm leaning on the knight being the villain||
can u send pic?
What is being argued over
nothing
||the skin has custom animations obviously, custom names for spells, custom hornet dialogue and least of all custom final boss||
||it's like a mini dlc||
o i see
|| little grimm skin is better ||
||that one is great as well but i feel like the color scheme clashes with the game a lot somehow||
||i can always feel like i'm using a skin with that one whereas the radiance one feels super natural||
agreed
i dont really like the ||orange soul|| though
||i dislike that in the broken vessel skin but i grew to like it with the radiance one, i think the art is more subtle or something||
||plus it makes thematic sense so props for that||
also why is ||p5 ||ordered differently than ||p1 to p4 ||in order? is there an actual reason?
i dont think so
not really(?)
||I guess hornet after sly is intentional for one reason or another||
||and pv into absrad is for
Obvious reasons||
||pv is after soul tyrant in p5 as well||
||thereās not that much of a difference except some harder bosses were reordered like gpz||
I believe itās ||failed champ|| but there is a small chance Iām wrong
||because failed champ is before soul tyrant in p4, that's what's throwing me off||
ah
kinda weird that they're in that order
||gpz is later in p5 right? he's in p3 normally||
He is the || 5th last boss in p5 ||
|| failed champ ||
The last 5 bosses before || pv and absrad || have a really weird order
||if you're capable of beating pv and absrad i suppose it doesn't matter what comes before lol||
Yh, You also get a full heal when you enter the || absrad || fight, not that it's relevant
||i was thrash talking mop earlier and i'm regretting my words in nkg rn||
|| MoP || is bad against || NKG ||
I'd much prefer || qs, strength, Shaman and sharp shadow ||
||nail arts||
Ew
||i realize now that i've pretty much always used mop here so attacks that are "supposed" to hit don't||
youll grow out of it eventually
maybe practice with easier things first
||nkg ||is my comfort zone
||it's like i said with shaman, you only notice it's gone when you really need it lol||
Do you have to put a space between the || and the text to spoiler tag? Just wondering
Not necessary
Alr
How many geos is it worth spending on it?
0
Up to u honestly
||rancid eggs|| aren't worth
Depends if u die a lot ig
||How many geos is a rancid egg worth?||
i thought i just did ||watcher knights on radiant||, but i accidentally ||loaded in ascended||š
LLLLL
i wanna kms rn
done the same many times haha, just means you're ready
tags, and 87(shocking)
Sometimes, we all do
haha fr
||pv spike slam is messing me up, feels like he spawn on top of me faster than i can dash, or if i do, the spikes get me before i can reposition||
||that helps most of the time, but if i jump proactively he might spawn on top of me||
you can use its body to know where the ||pillars spawn, theyre the same as nkg's flames and will not spawn right beside it||
wait what do you pogo?
||if you practice you can perfect ur jump distance||
||a small hop lets u dodge the pillars due to it always spawning the same relative to him||
||pogoing the boss has been very consistent||, and ive almost never had it jump before(under 5 times)
||what's the tell for diving? sometimes he jumps to do it, other times he teleports, right?||
yeah
||itās better when youāre against the wall||
the best way to tell is their positioning, above you will always mean a ||dive||
for this you can do a partial height jump and use ||wings+pogo if it does a triple slash or lunge||
so if i know their position, is it right next to them or a little further away?
right next to them
and upslash right?
like you can ||upslash|| kind of close
think i've seen that
however, that window is VERY tight compared to just ||pogoing||
i'm still confused how do you pogo that?
the reason being the ||spikes|| have a triangular hitbox and get smaller the higher you are
||move to the side, let it dive, then pogo||
if you want
gets a bit of damage in, if youre feeling risky you can get in a tight spot and ||upslash or shriek||
||most bosses will let you dive but pv punishes so fast i have to ask lol||
||i think i have never once shrieked in the pv fight||
||dash away then immediately dive||
is that fast enough?
||the dive should be after he touches the ground or at the same time so u get enough iframes||
if its ||teleporting inside of you, ||it means that youre jumping too proactively
that's what i need to know, thank you
can you reactively dodge every attack? i feel like i need to jump "too early"
remember, ||shade cloak|| is always there as a contingency plan
its really really hard to dodge by reactive jumping
||nail slash and triple slash i can react every time now, other attacks are the problem||
||there isnāt too much jumping in pv, itās mostly how to tell his attack when heās out of screen (which may involve lunge reaction time)||
doing a ||partial height jump also helps with the dagger attack||
||his dash and the ranged spike also mess me up because their start up animations are so similar that i end up not what to do||
look for the ||aim lines on the daggers||
||if he's out of screen i can't tell whether he's about to ranged spike or dash which is scary||
a ||dash|| shouldnt reach you
i dont think ive ever had an offscreen ||lunge|| before
what boss is he trying to beat?
probably safe to assume that it's the ranged one if i can't see him?
something you havent done yet
yeah
an issue with ||jumping on daggers is that if you shade cloak and theyre at the perfect distance the daggers will follow you||
i already know all bosses from spoilersš¢
||dash for daggers, what's the pogo for?||
||can you tell which one it is before he does it? i think i am proactively pogoing his faraway attacks and getting hit by daggers because of it||
with the right timing ||daggers can be shade cloaked at any height and distance|||
i'm also doing that too early sometimes
||shade cloak through the first wave, jump and dash, then repeat. pogo the ground spikes(if there are) or dive if needed||
gonna practice a bit, thanks fot all the help
I'm consistent at dodging them, but she did it 3 times in a row!!!!!
yeah then its free if youre consistent
the point of consistency is making it easier if you get it multiple times
I got hit at the start of the 3rd wave of it in a row bc I didn't see it nor expect it
I wonder why...
Fake TKD alert smh
||i got 9 notches now and fragile stremght is broken, i want to know what is the best charm build for colo 2nd trial||
read #hk-help for five minutes for tips, go practice, get hit by every single attack, try again
epic
LMAO
how good are you with ||spells||
||shaman sbody qslash, catcher/heart||
somewhat decent
i can't with the spike slam
this is my first play through
alright ill try it out
What boss is it
gg itās
You should be fine if you have an alright damage output
Tkd and
Tkd
i would say ||shaman catcher weaverlings grubsong dream wielder|| and spam ||spells and nail arts||

And I, ze keyboard
Ew
i saw ze and thought azefraud
alright ill see that one too thanks
||radiant pv||
||almost thought this was eo||
me when the tags
My build >>>
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ill see which one is better lol
my build takes a bit more skill to use
Average hkhelp interaction
you should know this by now, it's never gonna change
its a strange playstyle
?
It's more spammy and unbased
Mixed builds are always better
Why is their 2 of you
Over either nail purist or ||spell|| purist builds
in the case of ||colo|| not really
Nah, nail purist with ||shaman|| works best imo for that
||nail arts completely obliterate the need for nail charms and spell charms provide much better value||
He stole my identity
He doesn't have ||nmg|| tho smh
not needed for it though
Ew ||narts||
Without it it's power is greatly undermined
fun fact they rhyme with ||darts|| which are going to go through your local window soon
^ propaganda
To the point it isn't worth other than for the enemies which shall not be named of which causes hell
Smh
skrill issue
||strength shaman spell twister charm base kit>>>||
ive literally never had problems with them
unless you mean the ||baldurs|| then those can go ||roll into a pit of spikes||

Also smh give me my name back
never had problems with them, i just dont understand the craze
nah(id win)
Lucky bastard
Smhhhhhh
not lucky just good
Guess I have a krill issue then 
Don't push your luck
ere you can have your name
No swearing š
Didn't ask iirc
Alright I'll bring it back on track
Someone give me help for ||p5 surely (don't you dare say hog||
have a consistent build and practice all of the ones in a chain that you struggle with on ||ascended until you can do them all in a row||
i have not mentioned the thing yet
try training hard bosses in ||HoG||
i hate ||winged nosk||
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wtf is that hitbox please
pretty cool hitbox imo
just wait till you see the ||sly great slash|| hitbox
i know ||sly||
but on my ||first p5 run i made it to nosk and HOW NO HITS WERE MADE NO NOSK WAS TOUCHED, why am i dead??||
never seen him so idk what he does
fly?
yep
why is he fat
Practice in ||HoG||
Itās like ||vengefly king but he spews infection||
||you get used to the hitbox really quickly except first time it seems quite hard||
||make sure to use a guide on which bosses are in which area so you can adjust your charms accordingly to bosses, especially if you struggle in a specific one, for example using dream wielder on fc or uumuu||
That hitbox is painful
Tkd hasnt done
i did ||radiant vengefly king pretty quick, but with nosk, i cant with that hitbox||
Jump earlier on ||Winged Nosk||
ok
also, i recommend doing ||p1 with bindings and p2 with bindings in order to get the lifeblood core in p5, p1 is pretty easy to do with seperate bindings, same with p2||
||i just did p4 and unlocked the hog for sisters and nosk so ill be pausing for a lil bit but after that ill try to get it||
||what should i be running for trial of the fool? i have every charm||
also no ||gpz on my save, so idk how i feel about ātrue p5ingā||
maybe on a 2nd save idk
The question is can you be bothered to do that tho
I certainly couldn't, I've made a second one for the achievements, but I'm probably not gonna go much further than that
||where is the person that sells you fragile greed?||
||fungal wastes||
||fungal wastes, tall vertical room connecting to crossroads, on the right somewhere||
Nice
Question abt your username. What was the thought process behind sharting on pillows?
||is great slash a good skill that will actually help me?||
||fragile greed breaks after dying multiple times right? Or just once||?
i think only once
š
||it says it will break when the bearer dies||
||i saw on the wiki that you can make it unbreakable||
kk thx
yes or no
||where can i see the percentage of the game that i've completed? or i just cannot see it and people make hard calculations to know||
You can see it on your save file when you unlock something
Itās very late game tho
This will create some spoilers, so beware
will i only be able to see it ||on that slot?||
Yes
oki
Itās almost impossible to mis tho
wdym
The unlock is very hard to miss, you are guaranteed to pass it at least once before you beat the game.
Yeah
But before then
How many uses
wdym, and i might not understand what you're talking about lol, im still on my first playthrough
wdym?\
||any fragile charms break at death||
you can ||pay to get them repaired at leg eater's||
thats wrong
Yeah ik
after you unlock ||% complete you can see it on all saves||
I just thought you ||could dye multiple times before it broke||
do u mean ||112%||
no, once you unlock the ||ability to see your completion it shows up on all saves permanently||
but someone told me that i could ||only see it on that slot||
liar š
ok thx for the info
Im stuck in this green place i beat ||hornet|| i dont know where to go
Could someone tell me where to go
oh the irony

i quite literally opened the game after a trillion years to factcheck this, ||it indeed only shows up in the save that unlocked it||
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seriously?
||hi||
does ||qol mod|| change that
yes, i checked 
maybe its ||qol mod|| lololo
||can someone recommend me a trial of the warrior charm build? ||
maybe uh make sure before you call people liars
i download ||qol because absrad cutscene took too long||
i did and it did show
thats why im sayin
are you sure those saves didnt have everything iunlocked
yeah ||i hjavent even killed a dreamer on my steelsoul run||
it transferring to ||all saves would make zero sense since godhome mode exists||
yeah so i think its a ||qol mod thing||
ok well im wrong uhuhhuhuhuh
well.. i only ever installed ||qol||
@sturdy light ||you might want to go back to crossroads, there could be polaces you can now access you couldnt before||
i felt like my balls were being crushed in a meatgrinder every time i watched the ||20 sec absrad cutscene||
Imso got my back š„¹
lmso
||can someone recommend me a trial of the fool build? i have every single charm every mask pure nail and 2 extra soul things||
||how good are you with spells||
Does anyone know why my game canāt go into 144hz ? I choose it from the setting and it just goes back to 60Hz..
||nail arts|| are also pretty good in ||colo||
||really good at spells but not nail arts im trying to learn but kinda hard on controller or i just suck lol||
I play console too, you don't need to use them for the entirety of ||colo|| but they're very efficient ||primal aspid killers||as well as other small annoying things
||yeah ik but i just cant really jump and hit them but im getting better||
||i have every single charm notch ||
||i can time spells pretty well too||
why is it so quiet whenever i get on š
Ah thanks
No, your wrong
š
Bro I walk into help and I see this
LOL
||shaman stone, soul catcher, nailmaster's glory, spell twister, grubsong, and weavers. if you want you can replace glory, grubsong, and weavers with soul eater. the use of weavers will be apparent when you start||
figured that out already
yes
||whats the best shop item early game?||
||Shaman Stone||
||does each nightmare troupe ending have an achievement, if so, can i get them both on the same playthrough?||
tags ']
Yes, and no
Not possible
there's not a way to make a backup of the save file? or to just duplicate it?
š
Why would you though
You can just play 2 playthroughs
you need to anyway for all the achievements
||running around grabbing the red flames is the most tedious thing in the whole game||
you dont have to collect the ||third set|| on your second time
Any tips for killing the || pure vessel ||
practice a bunch. When he does his ||dash or triple slash, jump over him and pogo||. When he does the ||daggers, dash through the daggers and start attacking him for as much damage as possible. Dont forget to use spells. The best moments for healing are during staggers and during the white exploding circle attack||
OK thanks for the tips
||colo 2||
bet thats waht iv e been doing
tags
||get 10 notches first ||
Kk I almost got it tho I think I can do it with what I have
||qslash and strength are a free win with shade cloak||
you can largely damage tank
||fragile strength?||
yes
Ty 
||quit to menu if you feel nervous||
||imo qslash strength mop ||
That sounds good too Iāll try both suggestions
Thnx guys
yw
@burnt holly WHAT IS THAT NAME
oki,,,
i just shart on pillows
its like a hobby that people with nothing to do do
it keep its cold š
wait does that work mid fight? i thought only ouf of it
thats uhn
it works literally any time
that makes my || ss run|| a lot easier
it does but it's very š§
u can quit whenever u want anytime u want
thats what ur supposed to do lol
have u not been dsoing it š
well ur kinda supposed to quit and relaunch in certain times AND ur speedrun time is stopped when ur not in game
i see :>
When ||he starts stabbing himself does that mean Iām close||
Cuz Iāve been dying right after that
im pretty sure its just a phase
