#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 491

vocal spire Oct 17, 2020, 6:13 PM

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As it only adds an item to the journal list with new Playerdata values, sprites, and convo strings which automatically get hooks. It takes the length of the list + 1 as part of all of the Playerdata and convo stuff so it should always return the correct value, and not another’s value

jolly oriole Oct 17, 2020, 6:19 PM

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better test it

vocal spire Oct 17, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Well can’t rn.

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I should have probably uploaded the code here so it could be tested

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If it does work, when I finish working on it, I’ll make my npc code more user friendly and make the first release of FrogCore or some other name for a core mod

vocal spire Oct 17, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Here is a screenshot of it. Art by Andy070609#1547

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languid goblet Oct 17, 2020, 8:36 PM

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does ModHooks.Instance.SlashHitHook or ModHooks.Instance.GetPlayerIntHook happen first

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specifically, getting the int nailDamage

jolly oriole Oct 17, 2020, 10:00 PM

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you know what? i'll try to make something similar (but better ofc :^) ) SFCore, while on vacation lol

vocal spire Oct 17, 2020, 10:01 PM

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A journal helper?

jolly oriole Oct 17, 2020, 10:01 PM

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yes

vocal spire Oct 17, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Ok

jolly oriole Oct 17, 2020, 10:02 PM

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but i should finish additionalmaps first

languid goblet Oct 17, 2020, 10:57 PM

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does ModHooks.Instance.SlashHitHook or ModHooks.Instance.GetPlayerIntHook happen first
so, anyone know?

vocal spire Oct 17, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Why not do some logging to figure it out

languid goblet Oct 17, 2020, 11:49 PM

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oh

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right

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how do i enable like the little console in game that mods can print to?

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i thought it was modconsole but that didn't do anything

vocal spire Oct 17, 2020, 11:50 PM

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You have read the api docs, right?

languid goblet Oct 17, 2020, 11:51 PM

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...yes?

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i might've missed it

vocal spire Oct 17, 2020, 11:52 PM

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📎 image0.png

copper nacelle Oct 17, 2020, 11:53 PM

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oh i should fix that

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kinda wrong

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  "LoggingLevel": 2,
  "ShowDebugLogInGame": true,

in the modding api global settings

languid goblet Oct 17, 2020, 11:55 PM

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wait there's a logging section i'm so stupid

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sorry i should really take a closer look at these things before asking

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 12:54 AM

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@jolly oriole it turns out my code did work with multiple entries being added

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gonna go refine my npc code now

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 1:47 AM

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k done that going to add the fsm part of my JournalHelper now

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 2:59 AM

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yayyyy fsm stuff is pretty much done

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turns out the last fsm modification isn't even a fsm modification

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 4:11 AM

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IT IS COMPLETE

📎 2020-10-17_23-08-21.mkv

midnight thistle Oct 18, 2020, 4:14 AM

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shroompog

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 4:17 AM

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https://github.com/RedFrog6002/FrogCore/releases/tag/0.0.0.1

GitHub

Release 0.0.0.1 idk something release · RedFrog6002/FrogCore

something has been released into the world

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download since it isn't on the installer yet

flat forum Oct 18, 2020, 6:20 AM

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@vocal spire how does the void spirit... work

jolly oriole Oct 18, 2020, 9:57 AM

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@vocal spire instead of

Modding.Logger.Log(string.Format("[{0}]: ", Assembly.GetExecutingAssembly().GetName().Name) + " DialogueNPC: " + o);

you can also do

using Logger = Modding.Logger; // Not neccessary, but why not
Logger.Log($"[{GetType().FullName.Replace(".", "]:[")}] - {o}");

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and you also don't want to use GetIntInternal or SetIntInternal, as with that modhooks won't work on that field

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but while checking the method out, i found out that for some reason, crawlers count twice in the journal

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 12:04 PM

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Ok

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Yeah I found that strange too

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Idk why I did the strange logging for DialogueNPC. I don’t remember when I added that

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Awww now I’m making myself go fix it.....

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 12:37 PM

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done https://github.com/RedFrog6002/FrogCore/releases/tag/0.0.0.2

GitHub

Release 0.0.0.2 idk another something release · RedFrog6002/FrogCore

I really can't think of anything to put here so just pretend I said something funny and get on with your day

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Time to add a journal entry to uuwuu!

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 1:03 PM

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gonna leave lifeblood master alone because I have bigger plans for them

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Nvm journal helper slightly broken. I know how to fix one issue but need more time on the other

jolly oriole Oct 18, 2020, 6:17 PM

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explain pls

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 6:18 PM

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First issue(the one I can fix) was me accidentally using the wrong list, causing Custom types of entries to display wrong when there are entries that haven’t been gathered yet. 2nd is journal entries not showing up despite me calling the correct methods

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By not showing up, I mean I added them(not unlocked) then unlocked them

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And they didn’t show up

jolly oriole Oct 18, 2020, 6:19 PM

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hm

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 6:21 PM

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To fix the first problem I just need to get the right list with reflection and get from that instead

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I think I could have fixed the 2nd one because I may have used the wrong string somewhere, but I had to do stuff, and now I can’t for a while

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 7:53 PM

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K I can work on it again now

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k fixed both

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the 2nd problem was just me typing an incorrect string

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 8:29 PM

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IT'S COMPLETE

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I vaguely remember saying those exact words before.......

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anyway, I went with this amalgamation of color because uuwuu turns normal, yellow, blue, and green colors during the fight

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 8:46 PM

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can confirm it now works with multiple mods adding custom types of entries, and entries being unlocked works

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https://github.com/RedFrog6002/HollowKnight.Uuwuu/releases/tag/2.0.0.0

GitHub

Release Journal Entry Update. · RedFrog6002/HollowKnight.Uuwuu

Journal Entry Update. New dependency: FrogCore. You can get it from
https://github.com/RedFrog6002/FrogCore/releases if it's not on the installer

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 9:28 PM

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https://github.com/RedFrog6002/FrogCore/releases/tag/0.0.1.0

GitHub

Release 0.0.1.0 · RedFrog6002/FrogCore

Fixed all bugs I could find. It's very likely one used it before this fix, so we can just forget about those

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*it’s very likely no one used it

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Oh FrogCore depends on Vasi and Modcommon

jolly oriole Oct 18, 2020, 10:48 PM

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vasi and modcommon
isn't vasi there to kinda replace modcommon?

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 10:48 PM

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I think I used something from modcommon somewhere

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Got errors when removing using ModCommon;

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Forgot what they were

jolly oriole Oct 18, 2020, 10:52 PM

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probably gameobject stuff, like FindGameObjectinChildren or something

vocal spire Oct 18, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Yeah

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I think I also used GetOrAddComponent

vocal spire Oct 19, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I wish I could view hk’s code on my phone, would make modding a lot faster

fair rampart Oct 19, 2020, 2:18 AM

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hey someone, you're the only one that talks here?

vocal spire Oct 19, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Nah

fair rampart Oct 19, 2020, 2:18 AM

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i'm pretty confused tbh

vocal spire Oct 19, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Where?

dark wigeon Oct 19, 2020, 2:35 AM

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What phone do you have, someone

vocal spire Oct 19, 2020, 3:56 AM

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iPhone 7

dark wigeon Oct 19, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Rip

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I was gonna say if you have Android you can just get depotdownloader, ilspy and vscode

📎 Screenshot_20201018-231329_XServer_XSDL.png

vocal spire Oct 19, 2020, 12:18 PM

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Oof

jolly oriole Oct 20, 2020, 9:33 AM

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@floral furnace https://github.com/TTacco/Hollow-Point/blob/master/HollowPoint/Stats.cs#L209 you have 3 different types of accessing playerData in this one function

PlayerData pd_instance // member variable of the class
PlayerData data // from the function header
PlayerData.instance // on line 323

floral furnace Oct 20, 2020, 9:33 AM

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yeah i know im not consistent

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granted i think i did alter the soul cost for healing

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ngl reading my source again, i wanna shoot my past self for writing this

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like goddamn is it messy af

jolly oriole Oct 20, 2020, 9:45 AM

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same

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~~i also want to shoot your past self for writing that~~

floral furnace Oct 20, 2020, 9:46 AM

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i dont blame you

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like the amount of inconsistency, how some classes are singletons while the others are not

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this is what i get for repeatedly going "oh wait wait nvm, this idea IS BETTER" for at least like 20 times over the course of it developement

jolly oriole Oct 20, 2020, 9:47 AM

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oh, you don't want to look at the source code for TestOfTeamwork

floral furnace Oct 20, 2020, 9:48 AM

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ngl you i dont expect you to write worst code than i do lmao

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last time i told someone "wow holy shit your source code is clean" they said "what? no this is shittily written"

jolly oriole Oct 20, 2020, 9:50 AM

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yeah ok, my code is somewhat clean, but with >1700 lines in one class that can also be shitty

floral furnace Oct 20, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Blackmoth was written that way iirc

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one class, the entire mod

jolly oriole Oct 20, 2020, 9:52 AM

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hm, i couldn't do that, as i have custom monobehaviours lol

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i mean, you can take a look https://github.com/SFGrenade/TestOfTeamwork/blob/master/TestOfTeamwork/SceneChanger.cs

floral furnace Oct 20, 2020, 10:00 AM

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SEE

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you even seperated them into different folders

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~~i shouldve done that ngl~~

jolly oriole Oct 20, 2020, 10:01 AM

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yeah, was kinda cluttered before i did that

floral furnace Oct 20, 2020, 10:01 AM

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oh this was NOT seperated like this before?

jolly oriole Oct 20, 2020, 10:01 AM

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moved them into subfolders on august 4

floral furnace Oct 20, 2020, 10:02 AM

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ahhh

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was trying to find out what you mean by the 1700 line cs file

jolly oriole Oct 20, 2020, 10:03 AM

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oh yeah, that's the SceneChanger, where i put everything changing scenes in one file

floral furnace Oct 20, 2020, 10:04 AM

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oh yeah checking it now

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honestly tho still cleaner than the shit i write

stoic anchor Oct 20, 2020, 8:10 PM

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where is the Hollow Piont Mod ?

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point*

copper nacelle Oct 20, 2020, 8:10 PM

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very cool modding development question

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unless you mean the source which grenade linked a few messages ago

mild moon Oct 20, 2020, 8:13 PM

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my friend is just drunk forget about him

vocal spire Oct 20, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Nice

shell moon Oct 21, 2020, 10:47 AM

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feasibility of adding Revek to constantly attack you throughout P5?

tawny onyx Oct 21, 2020, 10:57 AM

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of course, you can see HKTwitch source code

jolly jungle Oct 21, 2020, 12:00 PM

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Can someone explain the second pinned message? Sawyer's table

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Is that a mapping of which unity layers can detect collision with each other?

floral furnace Oct 21, 2020, 12:04 PM

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pretty much

jolly jungle Oct 21, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Great

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Honestly it means nothing to me right now I just wanted to make sure I understand it

vocal spire Oct 22, 2020, 2:13 AM

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I have good mod idea. I make mod idea reality now

weak lodge Oct 22, 2020, 2:59 AM

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hey can you make a mod for me that restores hallown--

flat forum Oct 22, 2020, 4:47 AM

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and you play as the plae knig adnd there's leik 100 new NPCs and yuo meet the 5 grate nkights

weak lodge Oct 22, 2020, 5:03 AM

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5 great knights 🥴

languid goblet Oct 22, 2020, 7:54 AM

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and you play as the plae knig adnd there's leik 100 new NPCs and yuo meet the 5 grate nkights
is that a pale court leak?

jolly oriole Oct 22, 2020, 8:43 AM

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Yeah, they're currently at NPC 73

vocal spire Oct 22, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Wow only 100?

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And only 5 grate nkights?

languid goblet Oct 22, 2020, 3:17 PM

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no recreation of battle of the blackwyrm i riot

shadow dagger Oct 22, 2020, 3:23 PM

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what do you MEAN the modders aren't creating an entirely new game with new assets, rooms, characters, lore, custsc--

jolly oriole Oct 22, 2020, 3:59 PM

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new assets: done
new rooms: done
new characters: ig also done
new lore: maybe
new cutscenes: no

languid goblet Oct 22, 2020, 4:00 PM

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what if the cutscene is just a screen recording of moving around images in google slides

vocal spire Oct 22, 2020, 5:11 PM

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I’m thinking of another mod idea. Involves the radiance and dreamers. Lot of cutscene stuff

sage holly Oct 22, 2020, 5:51 PM

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is somebody talking about pale court

jolly oriole Oct 22, 2020, 5:57 PM

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nah

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just shitposting about it

sage holly Oct 22, 2020, 5:59 PM

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oh

viral snow Oct 22, 2020, 6:50 PM

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new lore: maybe
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jolly oriole Oct 23, 2020, 10:03 AM

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jovial tangle Oct 23, 2020, 11:26 AM

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What about mod, that allows to skip animation in Hall of Gods for quicker practice

vocal spire Oct 23, 2020, 12:39 PM

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@jovial tangle Qol mod. It depends on the Vasi mod being installed

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Also #archived-modding-help

flat forum Oct 24, 2020, 5:25 AM

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how do the watcher knights trigger their waking up thing

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/can you force wake up all of them at once

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 11:20 AM

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Afaik that was tried, but the bosscontroller is coded so that only 2 are awake at a time i think

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 1:34 PM

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That’s easy to do

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I made only one wake up before

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Editing the fsm to make all of them wake up should be extremely easy

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 2:04 PM

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whoever tried that before said that the hard part was that the bosscontroller thought the fight was over, when only the 5th (6th?) watcher knight was killed

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Probably something with the chandelier

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I’ll finally make the watcher hoard mod soon then

sage holly Oct 24, 2020, 5:56 PM

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how do I make a still sprite sway like the grass in queen's garden, but from the ceiling instead of the floor?

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Probably just copy and paste

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Also pale court spoilers?

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Upside down mode?

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Defy gravity?

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If pale court doesn’t defy gravity then I will

sage holly Oct 24, 2020, 5:58 PM

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lol

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I want to figure out the script itself

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because I have very thight room to work with utiny ripper

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and therefore would like to avoid using it

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also, I just want to make the same effect but in a different element, not copy the element

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Ok

sage holly Oct 24, 2020, 5:59 PM

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already tried copying the script alone, but no good results

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 5:59 PM

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I think I heard it was a shader

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What was the script?

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Probably a null reference somewhere

sage holly Oct 24, 2020, 6:00 PM

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the only difference between the swaying grass and a still sprite was the script

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 6:00 PM

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What was it?

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You are saying copy and pasting the code of a script, right?

sage holly Oct 24, 2020, 6:01 PM

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yes

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Ok

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Probably a null reference then

sage holly Oct 24, 2020, 6:02 PM

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I could be wrong though, I'm not an expert; this is just but what I think I've figured out

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Ok

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Can you send the code here?

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I can’t do it on pc rn because I have region band soon

sage holly Oct 24, 2020, 6:02 PM

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hold on, looking for it

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📎 message.txt

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for reference, it's the object simple_grass_nocut

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in level 220

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fungus 3_40

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(queen's garden stag statiom)

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 6:09 PM

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swaying grass is made using a shader

sage holly Oct 24, 2020, 6:09 PM

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oh

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 6:09 PM

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let me try if it works upside down

sage holly Oct 24, 2020, 6:10 PM

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so if I want make an object sway like that but upside down (ceiling) how must I put the shader?

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Probably just leave it

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(Yay I was right)

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 6:15 PM

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for upside down, use the shader in the same way the original does, just rotate the sprite gameobject by 180° Z

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 6:16 PM

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But will pale court go upside down

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I must know this before I devote my existence to doing it

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 6:17 PM

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it does also work with no rotation, but then you have to adjust the Height Offset option of the shader to something negative (with the original sprite it would be like -2 to -3 or something)

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Actually it doesn’t sound that hard to make the hero upside down

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Just change the gravity to - of what it was, then change the hero’s size

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 6:19 PM

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just change the Y scale to -1

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Yeah

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But don’t you also need to set the gravity of the rigid body?

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Gtg

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 6:23 PM

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oh, don't know if that works with the movement options

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should just work with just the scale changed

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Ok

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 6:32 PM

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can't test it rn tho, playing among us

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Well expect a new mod as soon as I finish playing my music for region

sage holly Oct 24, 2020, 6:45 PM

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so I need to rotate the sprite as well so it doesnt look upsdown right?

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and no, no upside down mode will be added to pale court, this is for an specific aestheitc

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 6:46 PM

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uh, depends on the sprite you have, but possibly yea

sage holly Oct 24, 2020, 6:47 PM

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ok, I'll make some experiments later

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 7:21 PM

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I feel like region went well!

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Anyway prepare for the new mod call mod upside down mod

sage holly Oct 24, 2020, 7:24 PM

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cool

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 7:26 PM

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I feel like the gravity knight mod should have something extra....

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What do y’all think of having a focus like thing for the quick cast key(yes I know I’m contradicting the point of that key) but it changes gravity

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 7:27 PM

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~~sometimes you have to think with portals~~ wait, wrong thing

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Takes 66 soul

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?

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Why are we bringing portal into this

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I wouldn’t mind portal in hk but why

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Oh lol

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 7:42 PM

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wait, no that i think about it, VVVVVVV fits more lol

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 7:48 PM

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?

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 7:51 PM

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the game where you flip gravity

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 7:51 PM

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K

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time to start programming the new no clip

dusk ibex Oct 24, 2020, 8:41 PM

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@vocal spire, what do you think of cyber knight so far?

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Cool

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 9:05 PM

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already have my fsm edits planned

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will people be mad if I make the vengeful spirit on quick cast one fsm state late?

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 9:19 PM

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definetly /s

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 9:19 PM

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k well they will just be mad

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bc I dont want it to be togglable with a charm because that will make everything another state later

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I mean I COULD just change the fsm transition but... actually that sounds easy

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k thanks

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 10:08 PM

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can confirm you also need to set the gravity

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 10:09 PM

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and the jumping works like it should?

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 10:10 PM

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I'll stream it

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general 1

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 10:10 PM

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1 sec

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 10:10 PM

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k

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I probably also need to set the velocity stuff too

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also gonna make it cost soul now

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I should probably add a check for that

jolly oriole Oct 24, 2020, 10:16 PM

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but looks nice already

vocal spire Oct 24, 2020, 10:16 PM

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ok

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thanks

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I'm not gonna make it cost soul yet because I should probably make sure gravity works first

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hk clearly was not made with - gravity in mind

jolly oriole Oct 25, 2020, 12:01 AM

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~~idk if it's possible, but you could try to get some late update hook and just set the y velocity to -y~~ nvm

vocal spire Oct 25, 2020, 12:08 AM

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It’s really weird because - gravity doesn’t seem to work well

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Still pretty cool to mess with though

vocal spire Oct 25, 2020, 4:11 AM

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don't feel like staying up to upload source again. Charm explains most of the mod in it's description, the rest I can explain, but is easier to see and experience

📎 GravityKnight.dll

jolly oriole Oct 25, 2020, 11:56 AM

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whatever you did, i'm invisible and fall right through the floor

vocal spire Oct 25, 2020, 11:56 AM

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I don't think I made the knight invisible.......

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what

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what happened

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what did I do

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I didn't do anything

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what

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ok I think I know what happened

jolly oriole Oct 25, 2020, 12:00 PM

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my guess is something in the herocontroller start hook died

vocal spire Oct 25, 2020, 12:03 PM

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nah

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charm update apparantly comes before hc start

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just needed to add an if to setting the size in charm update

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📎 GravityKnight.dll

flat forum Oct 25, 2020, 1:51 PM

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what's this?

vocal spire Oct 25, 2020, 1:55 PM

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charm best explains it

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also using it best explains it

sage holly Oct 25, 2020, 2:36 PM

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so turns out the grass swaying shader is a custom hollow knight shader

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which is to say, not a default unity one

vocal spire Oct 25, 2020, 2:37 PM

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just do it in code

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*have one of the pale court programmers do it in code

sage holly Oct 25, 2020, 2:39 PM

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mmmmm

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@jolly oriole what do you say?

jolly oriole Oct 25, 2020, 2:41 PM

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i mean, you could rip the shader from the game files (probably with UABE or utinyripper), but that would require one assetbundle for each platform (so windows, linux, mac) with the compiled shader, or one does it in code, which would require a codebase that allows for that

sage holly Oct 25, 2020, 2:42 PM

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which is to say, too complicated, right

vocal spire Oct 25, 2020, 2:42 PM

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can't you just copy the shader from somewhere else in code?

jolly oriole Oct 25, 2020, 2:44 PM

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yeah, but idk how the pale court code looks like, as in, how difficult it is to do something like that (and making the shader from scratch is better as it doesn't need a preload scene slot, i've been told that the modding api can only preload a certain number of scenes)

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but not too complicated

vocal spire Oct 25, 2020, 2:46 PM

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wait what

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oh no we are going to die now

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the modding api is limited help I am in pain

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also help I am in pain copying a SpawnObjectFromGlobalPoolOverTime from grimm to watcher knights isn't working

flat forum Oct 25, 2020, 2:51 PM

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do I gotta download the mod to understand what it does

vocal spire Oct 25, 2020, 2:52 PM

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?

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yes

flat forum Oct 25, 2020, 2:52 PM

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sad

vocal spire Oct 25, 2020, 2:52 PM

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or look at me and grenade's conversations before it

flat forum Oct 25, 2020, 2:52 PM

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I will when I gethome

sage holly Oct 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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ok internet back

vocal spire Oct 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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yay

sage holly Oct 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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we can just not get complicated with that, it was just for a fancy little detail anyways

solemn eagle Oct 25, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Okay so I'm tryna make a mod to give Nosk a nose

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I've edited the spritesheet but have no idea where to go now

vocal spire Oct 25, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Program a mod to replace the spritesheet

solemn eagle Oct 25, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Rrright, yeah...

jolly oriole Oct 25, 2020, 9:38 PM

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you can try looking at the source code for the Transtrans mod using https://radiance.host/apidocs/DnSpy.html and borrowing the code

solemn eagle Oct 25, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Oh, how delightful

vocal spire Oct 25, 2020, 9:41 PM

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borrowing more like replacing the spritesheet and a single string....

zealous basin Oct 26, 2020, 12:17 AM

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im at the stage "Loading assetbundle into Hollow Knight" of adding my textures, ive done the compile and build stuff inside unity, however im sure what to do now

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im basically doing something similar of what akino is doing

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if i open my .csproj file of the project, it appears blank.

young walrus Oct 26, 2020, 12:18 AM

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why not just use customknight

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and load the sprite sheets that way

zealous basin Oct 26, 2020, 12:18 AM

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hmmm

young walrus Oct 26, 2020, 12:18 AM

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what are you changing

zealous basin Oct 26, 2020, 12:18 AM

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a bosses sprite

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specifically false knights, for now

copper nacelle Oct 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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wdym your csproj is blank

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like it's literally an empty file?

zealous basin Oct 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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well i open it in visual studio and theres nothing

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i might of not done something specific in a previous segment perhaps

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thats probably it

copper nacelle Oct 26, 2020, 12:20 AM

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show

zealous basin Oct 26, 2020, 12:23 AM

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📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle Oct 26, 2020, 12:24 AM

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ah

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don't do that

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open the sln

zealous basin Oct 26, 2020, 12:24 AM

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ah

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ty

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hmm

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again its empty

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but in unity, my actual scene is empty too, and the only thing ive changed is assets. so that might make sense

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im tired for now, and ive made enough progress to call it a day. ill come back to it tommorow. thanks for the help 🙂

copper nacelle Oct 26, 2020, 12:26 AM

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this is for a mod yeah?

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You don't open the unity solution

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Or at least most people don't use the same solution

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You just use unity as a budget asset bundle creator

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I think Nickc01 actually does stuff in unity fwiw

vocal spire Oct 26, 2020, 1:33 AM

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So I’m using a custom scene for a boss mod. I use the statue, and it stays white for a while, then I go back to the statue as if I had lost. My logging says that the objects in the scene have loaded properly, so what’s wrong? I think that the scene might be loading but the white doesn’t fade away. Does anyone know how to fix this?

copper nacelle Oct 26, 2020, 2:33 AM

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send blanker down

sage holly Oct 26, 2020, 4:45 PM

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is people figuring out how to change backgrounds? NICE

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@jolly oriole did you figured out how to implement our thing, looking how you're messing with the title screen background?

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 4:47 PM

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i'm still trying to get this shit darker

sage holly Oct 26, 2020, 4:49 PM

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ok

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damm

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indeed shiniie

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 4:51 PM

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and

cameraCurves.redChannel = new AnimationCurve();
cameraCurves.redChannel.AddKey(new Keyframe(0f, 0f));
cameraCurves.redChannel.AddKey(new Keyframe(1f, 0.5f));

also doesn't work

sage holly Oct 26, 2020, 4:52 PM

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was thinking, can a shadow be added behind the letters?

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or at least behind the one being selected?

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 4:53 PM

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you technically can completely replace the logo

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oh wait, you mean the option thingies

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idk

sage holly Oct 26, 2020, 4:54 PM

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yes

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 5:22 PM

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for some reason i can't get the camera to use the provided curves

glass thorn Oct 26, 2020, 5:37 PM

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I've noticed while using the LanguageGetHook that the game seems to cache some lookups for the sheet "Map Zones" - for example, if you open the map multiple times, the first time it calls the hook for every area name, but later times do not. Anyone know why this happens or how to fix/work around it?

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 6:30 PM

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when Initialize() happens too late

📎 unknown.png

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update: that obv didn't work, but the color correction stuff also has no impact

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 6:56 PM

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managed to make it have impact

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uhm

📎 unknown.png

vocal spire Oct 26, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Huh

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Definitely managed to make a impact tho

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 9:07 PM

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||watch me make a requirement of ending 4 or 5||

📎 SPOILER_Secret_Menu_Theme.png

vocal spire Oct 26, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Menu theme helper?

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Coming soon?

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 9:45 PM

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i could upload it rn, but i also could add something else

vocal spire Oct 26, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Adding something else seems to be the thing you will most likely do

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 9:46 PM

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especially when it involves that logo sprite, which can be changed dynamically

vocal spire Oct 26, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Ok

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Also how do I camera animation curve what is a camera curve animation curve

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 9:48 PM

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optional, but

var cameraCurves = new MenuStyles.MenuStyle.CameraCurves();
cameraCurves.saturation = 1.25f;
cameraCurves.redChannel = new AnimationCurve();
cameraCurves.redChannel.AddKey(new Keyframe(0f, 0f));
cameraCurves.redChannel.AddKey(new Keyframe(1f, 1f));
cameraCurves.greenChannel = new AnimationCurve();
cameraCurves.greenChannel.AddKey(new Keyframe(0f, 0f));
cameraCurves.greenChannel.AddKey(new Keyframe(1f, 1f));
cameraCurves.blueChannel = new AnimationCurve();
cameraCurves.blueChannel.AddKey(new Keyframe(0f, 0f));
cameraCurves.blueChannel.AddKey(new Keyframe(1f, 1f));

vocal spire Oct 26, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Can I ask what AddKey does?

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 9:49 PM

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adds a keyframe

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https://docs.unity3d.com/550/Documentation/Manual/script-ColorCorrectionCurves.html

vocal spire Oct 26, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Ok

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Is it ok that I don’t know what that is

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 9:49 PM

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yea

vocal spire Oct 26, 2020, 9:49 PM

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K

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 9:51 PM

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basically it's just

Input Color: (R: 0.0 - 1.0, G: 0.0 - 1.0, B: 0.0 - 1.0)
Color Correction Curve: Normal (so from [0, 0] to [1, 1], per color) or something different
Output Color: Color Correction Curve Value at Input Color point

vocal spire Oct 26, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Ok I think I sort of get it

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 9:54 PM

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and once i implement the thing for the logo, i could display this instead of the normal one

📎 Fortnite_Rendered.png

copper nacelle Oct 26, 2020, 10:30 PM

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if you need to run before initialize just use the constructor bro

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 10:31 PM

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nah, too ez

copper nacelle Oct 26, 2020, 10:32 PM

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elderC

jolly oriole Oct 26, 2020, 10:33 PM

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in the end it worked with the code in the initialize method

languid goblet Oct 26, 2020, 10:44 PM

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change the logo to hollow knight silksong to prank people

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2020, 7:35 AM

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that's rad, do you happen to have a somewhat HQ version of a logo?

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2020, 12:26 PM

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i think i know why the modding api can only preload from a certain number of different scenes
https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/blob/master/Assembly-CSharp/ModLoader.cs#L330, the loaded scene never gets unloaded

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can pr once i'm home

vocal spire Oct 27, 2020, 12:37 PM

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yay

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Now we won’t have nightmares

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HELP MY JACKET DOESNT PROTECT MY HANDS AND ITS COLD

copper nacelle Oct 27, 2020, 12:45 PM

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it does get unloaded though

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loading a non-additive scene forces an unload of every other scene

vocal spire Oct 27, 2020, 12:46 PM

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dramatic sound effects

copper nacelle Oct 27, 2020, 12:46 PM

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I thought similarly on the number of scenes thing but doing an explicit unload didn't actually change anything

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yeet

📎 unknown.png

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which happens at 447

vocal spire Oct 27, 2020, 12:51 PM

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So what puts the limit on scenes then?

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2020, 1:15 PM

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but (at https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/blob/master/Assembly-CSharp/ModLoader.cs#L330, where the scenes containing the preloads get loaded)

AsyncOperation load = USceneManager.LoadSceneAsync(s, LoadSceneMode.Additive);

only gets unloaded once everything's done https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/blob/master/Assembly-CSharp/ModLoader.cs#L447

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or where would the single be?

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oh, probably when without the second param

copper nacelle Oct 27, 2020, 3:16 PM

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oh ig

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it didn't really make a difference when i tried it though

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but it's probably a good idea to have

languid goblet Oct 27, 2020, 3:26 PM

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that's rad, do you happen to have a somewhat HQ version of a logo?
@jolly oriole

📎 logo_main.png

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from google lol

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Thx

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2020, 4:50 PM

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just for testing purposes

📎 unknown.png

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it crashed, nice

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apparently it wasn't difficult for unity to load those 494 scenes, but apparently it broke down when fetching the gameobjects

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2020, 5:16 PM

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got it working

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but imma eat now

vocal spire Oct 27, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Guess it’s from loading too many gameobjects then

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Is it?

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2020, 6:09 PM

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was wrong, it was because of loading the scenes

vocal spire Oct 27, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I’m so confused rn

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2020, 6:10 PM

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<#archived-modding-development message> happened because unity tried to load every scene and didn't have enough vram left

vocal spire Oct 27, 2020, 6:10 PM

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So there is no way to fix it?

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2020, 6:11 PM

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changed the loading a bit so it fetches the gameobjects per scene, with only one scene loaded at a time, maybe increases loading time but decreases vram usage

vocal spire Oct 27, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Ok

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A bit better

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2020, 6:12 PM

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it went from 1.5 GB (starting the game) to ~600 MB (at some point during preloading) to idk how much vram usage (menu screen)

vocal spire Oct 27, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Well that’s a lot

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What do y’all think of a save fixing mod? Since so many mods change saves and sometimes break them, instead of save editing the save, imagine a mod returning all the boss statues to normal. Fixing grimmchild. Fixing less journal entries than the one previously selected

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2020, 6:19 PM

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but i may or may not tried loading 494 scenes (or at least the _SceneManager GOs in them, if present), out of which 473 actually had one of those

copper nacelle Oct 27, 2020, 6:38 PM

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but it's so much slower

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it used to be serial

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at that point doing an unload explicitly is going to keep the vram benefits with less of a speed impact

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2020, 6:49 PM

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then take this one https://github.com/fifty-six/HollowKnight.Modding/pull/5

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although you may want to move the unload after the progress++;, as the progressbar isn't full when the game goes to the menu screen

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what i should've tried before, but simultaneously loading the scenemanagers from a bit less than 150 scenes is slower than serialized loading them from those nearly 500

copper nacelle Oct 27, 2020, 7:07 PM

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i mean i'll merge it but updating the actual dll is so much effort

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2020, 7:11 PM

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just the unload is also probably better, as i now see that some things are broken when doing the serial version

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namely: stuff that works when preloads are present

jolly oriole Oct 27, 2020, 7:47 PM

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btw, while i look at this i wondered why you guys use the OnScreenDebugInfo class to load mods, instead of the StartManager, which would allow mods to hook into GameManager.Awake

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oh, would also circumvent GameManager from existing until the main menu is loaded

vocal spire Oct 27, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Anyone want to do a big holloween collab to make a trick or treat hunt mod?

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A bunch of rooms have candy in them, and the knight needs to get all the candy to get some king of spell upgrade(or something) from a rogue member of the Grimm troupe. In each room with candy, there will be a challenge(ex: ghosts fighting you, the floor is lava after collecting the candy, anything). There were just my ideas. If we do end up doing it, they probably will be changed

jolly jungle Oct 28, 2020, 6:47 AM

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wait how odes one change the logo

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that sounds useful for certain purposes

vocal spire Oct 28, 2020, 12:31 PM

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GameObject.Find then change the sprite with another one(assuming it’s a SpriteRenderer)

jolly oriole Oct 28, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Or wait a bit for me to implement that in sfcore

jolly oriole Oct 28, 2020, 4:08 PM

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you know what would be amazing?
possibly breaking every mod by changing when a mod is being initialized

vocal spire Oct 28, 2020, 5:11 PM

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:0

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No way

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Impossible

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Bruh

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:0

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Sounds illegal to me

jolly oriole Oct 28, 2020, 6:39 PM

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oh boy, that is an output log

jolly oriole Oct 28, 2020, 8:16 PM

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so i got batch preloading working

jolly oriole Oct 28, 2020, 8:34 PM

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if you want to look at this tiny modlog with debug information for the batch loading

📎 ModLog.txt

heady oyster Oct 28, 2020, 9:46 PM

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im trying to make a mod where the character can fly, but im encountering a problem trying to make it so that the character can focus while in midair, does anyone have any ideas?

upbeat saddle Oct 28, 2020, 9:47 PM

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man do i love this channel

heady oyster Oct 28, 2020, 9:48 PM

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i used dnSpy to find a canFocus method in herocontroller, but I cant find where it is called

jolly oriole Oct 28, 2020, 9:49 PM

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probably called in some playmaker fsm

unborn flicker Oct 28, 2020, 9:49 PM

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There's a Spell Control fsm in Knight Pickup that is responsible for focus.

vocal spire Oct 28, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Oh I made a mod for going upside down

shy garden Oct 29, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Oh I made a mod for going upside down
@vocal spire australia mode

jolly oriole Oct 29, 2020, 4:58 PM

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the loading bar for preloads dissapeared, trying to fix

jolly oriole Oct 29, 2020, 5:29 PM

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@copper nacelle idk if you know that, but is some camera needed to display the preload progress bar? (as in, would the modinstaller really need to load Menu_Title just to display the loading bar?)

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workaround aquired

vocal spire Oct 29, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Yay

jolly oriole Oct 29, 2020, 7:15 PM

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https://github.com/SFGrenade/HollowKnight.Modding here

vocal spire Oct 29, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Don’t you just hate it when you log a bunch of stuff to fix one error, fix the error, delete the logging, and it still logs?

copper nacelle Oct 29, 2020, 10:20 PM

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this ain't it

jolly oriole Oct 29, 2020, 10:24 PM

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then just copy the newer mod to the mods folder or don't compile while the game is running

vocal spire Oct 29, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I did that and I still can’t find where I have the Logging

copper nacelle Oct 30, 2020, 1:12 AM

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any grep

vocal spire Oct 30, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Also I found out the most likely reason my custom boss scene wasn’t working. Forgot to preload a scenemanager and boss scene controller and put them in my scene

jolly oriole Oct 30, 2020, 7:37 AM

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btw, was <#archived-modding-development message> an answer to <#archived-modding-development message>?

vocal spire Oct 30, 2020, 12:20 PM

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I want to know this too

copper nacelle Oct 30, 2020, 2:14 PM

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yeah

jolly oriole Oct 30, 2020, 5:11 PM

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oh god oh fuck

private (string, GameObject, int, string, string[], MenuStyles.MenuStyle.CameraCurves, AudioMixerSnapshot) AddMenuStyleCallback(MenuStyles self)
{}

copper nacelle Oct 30, 2020, 5:28 PM

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have you heard of naming your outputs

jolly oriole Oct 30, 2020, 5:29 PM

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in the sense of a struct or what

jolly oriole Oct 30, 2020, 6:46 PM

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done

jolly oriole Oct 30, 2020, 7:31 PM

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instantiated AudioMixerSnapshots don't want to work, so have a somewhat silent title screen

📎 2020-10-30_20-28-24.mp4

vocal spire Oct 30, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Awesome

copper nacelle Oct 30, 2020, 9:28 PM

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sick

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but I meant you can name tuple items

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(string name, int index) type beat

jolly oriole Oct 30, 2020, 9:28 PM

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yeah, done that with <#archived-modding-development message>

copper nacelle Oct 30, 2020, 9:28 PM

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ah

jolly oriole Oct 30, 2020, 9:28 PM

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never used those things before

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now i only need to figure out how to make my own AudioMixerSnapshots, or if that's even possible

vocal spire Oct 30, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Assetbundle them?

jolly oriole Oct 30, 2020, 9:49 PM

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but how to create them?

vocal spire Oct 30, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Idk

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Look it up?

jolly oriole Oct 30, 2020, 9:52 PM

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already did, a snapshot has a normal mixer behind it, with possibly some float exposed, but you can't look those up, and UABE doesn't want to show how a snapshot is structured, so i basically have to brute force the float names

jolly oriole Oct 30, 2020, 10:36 PM

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fuck this

vocal spire Oct 30, 2020, 11:28 PM

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F

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What pc specs would y’all recommend for modding?

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My current pc is pretty bad, so I have been using a family member’s for modding, but I want to get a better pc for myself that I can always use.

jolly oriole Oct 30, 2020, 11:49 PM

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wait till december for possibly all amd ryzen 5000 cpu + radeon 6000 gpu would be my recommendation

vocal spire Oct 30, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Ok

jolly oriole Oct 30, 2020, 11:50 PM

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wait, idk when ryzen 5000 is being released

vocal spire Oct 30, 2020, 11:50 PM

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How much would that cost?

jolly oriole Oct 30, 2020, 11:51 PM

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moving it to dms

vocal spire Oct 30, 2020, 11:51 PM

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K

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 4:18 AM

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not exactly modding related, but does somebody know why malwarebytes could possibly be detecting an app I made in visual studio only when it has a custom icon?

dark wigeon Oct 31, 2020, 1:49 PM

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I'm a bit late again but snapshot values are stored in the audiomixer for built games, and uabe does show the format

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Snapshot name buffer will have a null term list I think

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 1:51 PM

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couldn't find the audiomixer with uabe
and my uabe says "unrecognized asset format" or something for the snapshots

dark wigeon Oct 31, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Hmm try with assetsview then

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I have a modded uabe so 🤷‍♂️

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 2:05 PM

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uh, which file would the mixer be in?

dark wigeon Oct 31, 2020, 2:06 PM

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resources.assets?

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 2:06 PM

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wait, i can just open file with dependencies

dark wigeon Oct 31, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Could be in individual shared assets as well

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Yeah you can

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Make sure you don't load in scene path mode

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 2:07 PM

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ok

supple sedge Oct 31, 2020, 2:08 PM

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hi, so im trying to reset the size of enemy bullets by just setting the localscale of the transform. This works fine for most things, you can get hit by them and stuff. However, the bullets arent destroyed on collision, so should i destroy them on the code and if so how?

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 2:19 PM

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@dark wigeon do you mind telling me how you modded uabe?

dark wigeon Oct 31, 2020, 2:20 PM

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🤔

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Quick patches?

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Although it would be really hard to implement unity 2020 support that way so I'm just waiting

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Also the mono type tree exporter is modded too but that one's on c#

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 2:21 PM

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hm

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 3:16 PM

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I'm about to go look, but does anyone know a way for me to create some of the modding api's globlasettings files in a different program? I know how to create a program that writes text files, but how do I write them in the same json format?

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 3:24 PM

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any json editor should be enough

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 3:24 PM

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ok

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 3:32 PM

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ok, it's official, the issue was never the audiomixersnapshots, although now i know how i get whatever one i need, but the issue was a missing audio source in the radiant style...

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every single audiomixersnapshot for the main menu tested (21 total)

📎 2020-10-31_16-29-39.mp4

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snapshot 14 ("Normal - Gramaphone") is my favourite

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 3:49 PM

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help my ears have been snapped by audio shots

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 5:23 PM

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even works on startup, so you don't have to select it every time

📎 2020-10-31_18-21-55.mp4

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scam, xbox one and ps4 get exclusive title screen logo

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 6:00 PM

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?

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Anyway, cool how do I make a cool animation like that

supple sedge Oct 31, 2020, 6:05 PM

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is there a hook for when the player uses a spell?

unborn flicker Oct 31, 2020, 6:21 PM

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No, that's handled by the Spell Control fsm.

supple sedge Oct 31, 2020, 6:22 PM

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ok

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also why does the hero update hook appear twice in the docs?

📎 docs_problem.png

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 6:27 PM

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that's a feature, for the poeple how already forgot he update hook existed

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 7:09 PM

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@languid goblet

📎 unknown.png

languid goblet Oct 31, 2020, 7:12 PM

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lmao

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Ah, what a great mod name with such an illegal title. Get hollow point and it’s legal again

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Testing Stuff

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Tbh I can’t think of a better one tho

inner hare Oct 31, 2020, 8:50 PM

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FORTNITE

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:14 PM

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How does one use the PlaymakerFSM Viewer?

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 10:18 PM

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start it, click top left load scene, select whatever scene you want to look at, select the gameobject with the fsm you want to look at, done

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Where am supposed to put it though?

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 10:22 PM

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the fsmviewer is a standalone application, put it anywhere you remember

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:22 PM

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And all I need to download is the actual Viewer right? No need for the source code

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the fsmviewer is a standalone application, put it anywhere you remember
thanks

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 10:22 PM

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ye

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Is there any problem placing files within the Hollow Knight folder

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?

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(under steamapps>common)

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 10:23 PM

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you probably shouldn't do that

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Oh ok

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I did "open file", and, well, it closed and nothing happened

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open scene list does the same

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 10:27 PM

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hm, maybe @dark wigeon can help

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:27 PM

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That's the creator, right?

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 10:28 PM

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yea

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Welp seems like I'll need to wait a while, I'll check later for an answer I suppose

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In the meantime

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Anyway to see what's in a mod?

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 10:29 PM

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https://radiance.host/apidocs/DnSpy.html

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Hm

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This is used to look at the game, mainly, but can be used to look at mods too?

copper nacelle Oct 31, 2020, 10:30 PM

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any open source

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Yeah I see that now

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Thanks @jolly oriole

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Alright so um
this is kind of a stupid question

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but

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Ok

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:35 PM

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can someone explain "hooks"?

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like, I have the page open in front of me

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Make code happen when the hook happens

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The

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End

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:36 PM

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ah

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So, they're.. used a lot?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Yeah

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Hooks are called from the newest hook to the hook to the oldest

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I think

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:37 PM

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what does that mean?

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Also

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I'm reading the first one in the list

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"SetPlayerBool"

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desc.

This code can be used to check when certain events happen in game such as obtaining a charm by checking if target == "gotCharm_X" where X is the id of the charm

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now, above it is a line public void PlayerBoolSet( string target, bool val )

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and the whole section starts with ModHooks.Instance.SetPlayerBoolHook += PlayerBoolSet

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So

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if I understood correctly

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and the whole section starts with ModHooks.Instance.SetPlayerBoolHook += PlayerBoolSet
this
makes the SetPlayerBool track PlayerBoolSet

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yes or no?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Yes

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It will make your code in PlayerBoolSet occur before any code in the rest of the hook

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Anything hooked after your hook will come before your hook, and so on

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:45 PM

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alright the only thing I understood is "yes"

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can you explain it a bit more in detail?

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like, any new hook will have order priority, I understood

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but where are hooks created?

unborn flicker Oct 31, 2020, 10:46 PM

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First, the original code runs on target and produces val. Then the first added hook runs on the original target and val to produce a new val which is passed to second added hook along with target, and so on.

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:47 PM

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woah um

unborn flicker Oct 31, 2020, 10:47 PM

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In the case of GetPlayerBool, the final hook determines which value is retrieved.

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I must've missed something earlier on

unborn flicker Oct 31, 2020, 10:47 PM

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In the case of SetPlayerBool, the final hook determines which value is set.

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:47 PM

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lets say I set no hooks

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when would playerboolset be called?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Never

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that is your method, right?

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ModHooks.Instance.SetPlayerBoolHook += PlayerBoolSet in initialize will do the hook

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:48 PM

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ah

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I see now

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Without hooks or on, you can’t really do much

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:49 PM

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playerboolset is basically the "MyCodeThatRunsWhenPlayerDataBoolsAreSet" that's in the page's beginning

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Yes

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:50 PM

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So what triggers the hook?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:50 PM

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When SetBool is called in Playerdata I think

unborn flicker Oct 31, 2020, 10:50 PM

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The hook is inserted into the original code by the Modding API.

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Hm

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So, I insert it wherever I want it?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Wdym

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:51 PM

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It'll be easier giving examples

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Ca you give an example of a hook, a method called by it, a place to use the hook, etc.?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Bruh

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:52 PM

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please?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Well

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I don’t get exactly what you want

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Like, take this example

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This code can be used to check when certain events happen in game such as obtaining a charm by checking if target == "gotCharm_X" where X is the id of the charm

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Yeah?

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Can you take this example and detail it?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:53 PM

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I’m not on pc rn but I’ll try

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Define detail it tho

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Alright so

dark wigeon Oct 31, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Wat

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Ping pong

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Ok

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U talking about tk2d animations or something else?

supple sedge Oct 31, 2020, 10:54 PM

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look at 56´s video tutorial, he has some hook examples that really helped me

dark wigeon Oct 31, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Fsmviewer broke?

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:54 PM

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public void PlayerBoolSet( string target, bool val )

would simply be the method called, correct? this wont have to do with triggering it and all, inside this I just write what will happen

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Yes

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Fsmviewer broke?
I'm not sure, but I think so

dark wigeon Oct 31, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Os?

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Yes
yes to what?

dark wigeon Oct 31, 2020, 10:55 PM

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That was autocorrect

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Os?
windows?

dark wigeon Oct 31, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Ok and it instantly crashes on file open?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:55 PM

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yes to what?
@jolly jungle the first question in the message above that message

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:55 PM

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yup

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simply closes

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the first question in the message above that message
@vocal spire alright that's a good start for me

dark wigeon Oct 31, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Did you extract the zip

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The only thing that happens before the open file dialog is the cldb read code

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:57 PM

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ModHooks.Instance.SetPlayerBoolHook += PlayerBoolSet at its most basic form of explanation calls your code when the hook is called

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:57 PM

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So this

ModHooks.Instance.SetPlayerBoolHook += PlayerBoolSet
is setting the hook. Now, where would one place this?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:57 PM

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I already told you

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Did you extract the zip
I'm pretty sure I ran it from in the zip

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should I not do that?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Bruh

supple sedge Oct 31, 2020, 10:57 PM

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no

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:57 PM

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whoops

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Not how files work...

dark wigeon Oct 31, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Yeah as I figured

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:57 PM

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thanks

supple sedge Oct 31, 2020, 10:57 PM

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lol

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:58 PM

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aw damnit i need to go now

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Awww

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I was gonna ask you to try adding a journal entry

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I'll need to continue being educated some other time

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 10:58 PM

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And rate your experience making one

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specifically with frogcore’s journal helper

supple sedge Oct 31, 2020, 10:59 PM

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look at 56´s video tutorial its really helpful

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Anyway, I’m making CustomKnight+ more user friendly to compensate for the needless extensions on the release of it

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I could have released it weeks ago

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Not user friendly at all in it’s current state

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 11:00 PM

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I was gonna ask you to try adding a journal entry
And I was gonna ask how to do that
eventually

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:01 PM

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lol

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In advance, get frogcore

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 11:01 PM

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look at 56´s video tutorial its really helpful
Heh, I tried, it's too fast for me

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In advance, get frogcore
where and how

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:01 PM

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https://github.com/RedFrog6002/FrogCore

GitHub

RedFrog6002/FrogCore

place where I will put my helper classes or other stuff that doesn't belong anywhere - RedFrog6002/FrogCore

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Look in the releases

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Use manually install mods in the mod installer

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Also don’t download the source

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 11:02 PM

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I'm supposing its a kind of central thing for certain things that can be made easilyer with it?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:02 PM

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A library

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Basically another modcommon, seanprcore, Vasi, and SFCore

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Use manually install mods in the mod installer
is that option for mods that arent on the installer's list?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Yes

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Next to revert to vanilla

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Basically another modcommon, seanprcore, Vasi, and SFCore
why dont you all just make one single core?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Bruh

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We all have different ways of doing stuff

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Also bruh to me for defending that

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Modcommon has a bunch of stuff no one uses

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 11:04 PM

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but like, wouldn't one single thing be better?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Yes but

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It would need to update for every small thing

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 11:04 PM

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I mean at this point it might not be a good idea

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 11:04 PM

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one has an idea to make things easier, implements in their own thing to not clutter other things and things went on from there

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Yeah

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Ups and downs to either way

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 11:05 PM

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and how do you make sure they dont do conflicting things?

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 11:05 PM

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yes

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Also it’s each developer’s personal library

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Well that’s the point of multiple

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 11:05 PM

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also can a mod use multiple?

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 11:05 PM

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yes

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Yes

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 11:05 PM

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oh good

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:05 PM

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You just add them as references

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 11:05 PM

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anyways I'll be going now

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Goodbye

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 11:06 PM

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for example: SFCore needs ModCommon to function

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 11:06 PM

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I'll continue my demonstration of my vast ignorance some other day

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:06 PM

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FrogCore needs modcommon and Vasi to function

jolly jungle Oct 31, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Ciao

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Good luck with everything

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:06 PM

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I wonder when I’ll make a shop npc monobehavior

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To go with my dialogue npc one

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Should I make one?

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 11:07 PM

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ye

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Ok

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Will work on it after I finish my CustomKnightPlusCreator application and port it to Mac and Linux

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Gonna require a lot, but it’ll be worth it in the end

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the encouragement for each mod I make

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 11:09 PM

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not neccessarily requires a lot, just instantiate some GameObjects, maybe change some fsm variables, change some monobehaviour stuff, and done

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Yeah

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There is already a shop monobehavior I think

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To go with the fsm

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 11:10 PM

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yea

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:10 PM

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So I can just use reflection on that to get the private stuff I need(from my memory) then just bend that to my will

languid goblet Oct 31, 2020, 11:11 PM

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would i need fsmviewer and stuff to actually learn more about the game's code

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 11:11 PM

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probably

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Are you wanting fsms or code

languid goblet Oct 31, 2020, 11:11 PM

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because i can use ilspy to figure out variable names but idk what values do what

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Fsms are a good portion of the game’s code

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 11:11 PM

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fsm is glorified code

languid goblet Oct 31, 2020, 11:11 PM

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oh

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yeah i don't think there's an fsmviewer for mac

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Bruh

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Run it with mono or wine

languid goblet Oct 31, 2020, 11:12 PM

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one more reason to get a windows as soon as i can

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catalina dropped support for 32 bit

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so i can't use mono/wine

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or even play portal 2 apparently

supple sedge Oct 31, 2020, 11:22 PM

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so looking at hellmod´s source there is an unload method, why is that necessary?

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:22 PM

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In game toggling

jolly oriole Oct 31, 2020, 11:23 PM

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some mods support that

supple sedge Oct 31, 2020, 11:24 PM

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ahh ok like in the menu

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Yeah

supple sedge Oct 31, 2020, 11:24 PM

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hollowknice

vocal spire Oct 31, 2020, 11:25 PM

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The class needs to diver from ITogglableMod

dark wigeon Oct 31, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Fsmview won't work with mono only wine

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Avalonia port was lost somewhere

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Probably on my old hdd

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:06 AM

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what fsm can i use to detect when the player uses vengful spirit?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:06 AM

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SpellControl

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Just search knight in fsm viewer

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:07 AM

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found it thank you

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is there a better way to call a method when the fsm is in a specific state than just checking if its in that state every frame in a hero update hook?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Wait what

#

You are checking every frame?

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You ever heard of modcommon or Vasi

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:20 AM

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yeah but idk what they do

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:20 AM

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They each have a version of Fsm utility

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Look in the apidocs fsm section for how to use modcommon’s

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You can insert/add your method into the state

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Modcommon has the methods directly in the fsm, while Vasi requires using getstate then you can use all the normal stuff

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:25 AM

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you mean with fsm.InsertAction?

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oh wait now i get it

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:34 AM

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fsm.insertmethod or fsm.addmethod

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Addmethod doesn’t require a action index

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Just adds it to the end

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:37 AM

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can i do addmethod in initialize?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Bruh

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Do

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You

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Think the knight exists then

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On.HeroController.Start is a good hook for that

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:38 AM

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oh yeah sorry zotewheeze

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im not very smart

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Just make sure to do orig(self); at the end of your code in the hook

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It will also give you a HeroController so you don’t have to do HeroController.instance.GameObject, just self.GameObject

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:39 AM

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cool

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:40 AM

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If you don’t do orig tho, HeroController will actually just die

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:40 AM

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bruh

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 1:55 AM

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so im using herocontroller.start hook and everything works fine until i put fsm.InsertMethod("Fireball 2",0,() => Log("used fire")); then the entire method just stopped working, am i misusing InsertMethod? Also sorry for the many questions zotewheeze

floral furnace Nov 1, 2020, 1:57 AM

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shouldnt insertmethod's index be the 3rd parameter input

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oh my bad im thinking insertaction nvm

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try adding a try/catch to it and log that

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 1:58 AM

#

ok

jolly oriole Nov 1, 2020, 2:00 AM

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i'm not that into c#, but maybe it doesn't like lambdas

#

although unlikely

floral furnace Nov 1, 2020, 2:01 AM

#

i think you have to specify that its a new action object?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 2:01 AM

#

Recently some of my fsm code had a null reference exception randomly out of nowhere

#

I had to rewrite some code for it

cinder rivet Nov 1, 2020, 7:04 AM

#

Anyway, I’m making CustomKnight+ more user friendly to compensate for the needless extensions on the release of it
@vocal spire ayy dope af. yes I'm still lurking here. I love anyone's Radiance background btw

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 11:47 AM

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hello sorry for the late response, but i tried logging the try catch but it didnt log anything at all for the try catch or the method

floral furnace Nov 1, 2020, 11:52 AM

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I dont know much about insert method but if you just wanna call a method maybe you can do something like this?

fsm.InsertAction("My FSM State", new CallMethod
                {
                    behaviour = mymonobehaviourinstance,
                    methodName = "MyMethod",
                    parameters = new FsmVar[0],
                    everyFrame = false
                },
                0);

void MyMethod(){
   Log("Test");
}

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 11:54 AM

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alright ill try that and tell how it goes

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:46 PM

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i think it will be easier if i send the method i call on the hero start hook and you can check if im doing something wrong

#

how do i add that code box like you did in your message?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:47 PM

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`

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` 3 times

#

then to make it colored add csharp

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public bool test;

tawny onyx Nov 1, 2020, 12:48 PM

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i think InsertMethod should work

#

maybe you build a wrong project like not choose .Net Framework

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:49 PM

#

wait

#

modcommon has it's own version of callmethod

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:49 PM

#

        {
            Log("Player init");
            PlayMakerFSM fsm = self.gameObject.LocateMyFSM("Spell Control");

            try
            {
                fsm.InsertMethod("Fireball 2", 0, () => Log("cast"));
            }
            catch (Exception e)
            {
                Log(e);
            }
            orig(self);
        }```

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:50 PM

#

what specifically is the error

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:50 PM

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nothing logs

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:50 PM

#

hmmm

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:50 PM

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in the method

#

the rest works fine

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:50 PM

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so there is no error and there is no logging?

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:50 PM

#

yes

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:51 PM

#

hm

copper nacelle Nov 1, 2020, 12:51 PM

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did you hook the method though

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:51 PM

#

lol

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:51 PM

#

yes

copper nacelle Nov 1, 2020, 12:51 PM

#

where

#

how

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:51 PM

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show the initialize code

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:51 PM

#

if i remove the insert method everything works

#

        {
            Log("Initializing");
            ModHooks.Instance.RecordKillForJournalHook += OnKill;
            On.HeroController.Start += InitializePlayer;
            On.HeroController.CanDash += CanDash;
            Log("Finished");
        }```

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:52 PM

#

hmm

copper nacelle Nov 1, 2020, 12:52 PM

#

any output log

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:53 PM

#

?saves

autumn shardBOT Nov 1, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Saves

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:53 PM

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only from initialize

tawny onyx Nov 1, 2020, 12:53 PM

#

show the logs

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:53 PM

#

so nothing logs from your method?

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:53 PM

#

nope

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:53 PM

#

then something else is wrong

#

since you have logging before insertmethod

#

are you sure you built and copied the dll to the mods folder while the game was off?

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:54 PM

#

yes

#

i tried again multiple times as well

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:55 PM

#

ok just show the modlog then

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 12:57 PM

#

ok wait a sec

#

you want me to paste the content of the modlog or just send the txt

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 12:58 PM

#

send txt

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 1:02 PM

#

📎 ModLog.txt

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Class1 is the mod

copper nacelle Nov 1, 2020, 1:03 PM

#

you're building the wrong library type

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 1:03 PM

#

lol

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 1:04 PM

#

what

copper nacelle Nov 1, 2020, 1:04 PM

#

it's supposed to be .net 3.5 not net standard 2.0

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 1:04 PM

#

whoops

#

is there a way to change it or do i have to create a new project?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 1:05 PM

#

I think you need a new one

copper nacelle Nov 1, 2020, 1:05 PM

#

project settings

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 1:05 PM

#

when I made a 2.0 one, it wouldn't let me select anything higher than 3

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 1:07 PM

#

    <TargetFramework>.net 3.5</TargetFramework>
  </PropertyGroup>
``` like this?

copper nacelle Nov 1, 2020, 1:07 PM

#

no

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 1:08 PM

#

in the editor

#

right click the project

copper nacelle Nov 1, 2020, 1:08 PM

#

it's just net35

#

like <TargetFramework>net35</TargetFramework>

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 1:08 PM

#

oh

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 1:08 PM

#

ahh ok

#

yay it all works now

#

thanks everyone

tawny onyx Nov 1, 2020, 1:14 PM

#

i have mention this before lol

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vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 1:14 PM

#

lol

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 1:15 PM

#

bruh

#

sorry zotewheeze

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 1:16 PM

#

development on the customknight+ creator is going pretty well

supple sedge Nov 1, 2020, 1:16 PM

#

hollowknice

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 1:17 PM

#

in a minute, I'll be able to perfectly recreate a customknight+ globalsettings file

#

except in a different program

#

yay I did it

jolly oriole Nov 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

#

@floral furnace step your game up

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vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

#

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

floral furnace Nov 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

#

god i fucking wish

warm copper Nov 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

#

Lol

#

That’s awesome

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

#

me is yes make menu theme fun when release helpers

#

yes

gilded lotus Nov 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

#

custom start text for hollow point? 🥴

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 4:23 PM

#

custom menu theme for it too?

jolly oriole Nov 1, 2020, 4:23 PM

#

nah

gilded lotus Nov 1, 2020, 4:23 PM

#

yeah just play fortunate son in the bg with vietnam footage

jolly oriole Nov 1, 2020, 4:23 PM

#

i fucking wish i could upload it to the gdrive, but google doesn't let me log in since i was on vacation

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 4:23 PM

#

F

sage holly Nov 1, 2020, 4:36 PM

#

meanwhile, in the pale court developing quarters

#

📎 unknown.png

warm copper Nov 1, 2020, 4:38 PM

#

Lol

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 4:42 PM

#

lol

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 4:53 PM

#

So

#

Suppose I make a boss

#

Based off an existing boss

#

Say, for example, Crystal Guardian

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 4:54 PM

#

yeah?

gilded lotus Nov 1, 2020, 4:54 PM

#

type it all out you can do it

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 4:55 PM

#

I'll need to actually make animations, right? I won't be able to use the ripped spritesheet directly like in CustomKnight

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 4:55 PM

#

?

#

like for new moves?

#

you can use the ripped spritesheet

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 4:56 PM

#

Yes, but, I'll need to extract the frames

#

Right?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 4:56 PM

#

look at how mods like lifeblood master, lost lord, or any other boss with texture changes

#

you can get the sheet from #art-discussion

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 4:56 PM

#

no I already have it

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I made the lifeblood master one by using the fill tool

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 4:56 PM

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And already working on the retexturing

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 4:56 PM

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extracting the frames isn't necessary

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Ah

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 4:57 PM

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you need the full spritesheet for the easiest way of changing the textures

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 4:57 PM

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So I will be able to use it like when passing a full customknight sheet to the mod? It'll do the separation itself?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 4:57 PM

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?

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no

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you are replacing the sheet it gets the textures from

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well I guess that's a way to think of it

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 4:58 PM

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yes that's what I mean

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no need for manual extraction

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 4:58 PM

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ok

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 4:59 PM

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cool thanks

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 4:59 PM

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yeah it's just the sheet

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 4:59 PM

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I just needed to know ahead of time

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 8:20 PM

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For the FSM Viewer (which I had, displaying my brilliance, forgot to take out of the zip file before I ran it), do I need to take out only the zip or also the three other files?

dark wigeon Nov 1, 2020, 8:26 PM

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All files

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 8:30 PM

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hm ok

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thanks

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should I make a small folder for them?

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fro organisation

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Or should I put them somewhere else

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what do I do someone help please I don't want to mess up my files

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 8:36 PM

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@jolly jungle anywhere as long as they are in the same folder smh

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 9:13 PM

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hm thanks

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 9:39 PM

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When I do "open file" am I supposed to choose the game?

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in the fsm viewer

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wait

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"open scene list" is all scenes in the game?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Yes

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Alright so I'm looking at the menderbug fsm, for example

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 9:44 PM

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?

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Just making sure I understand. It goes over and checks if its dead. If yes, ends the machine. If no, continues to check if the sign is broken. If no, ends, if yes, checks whether the spawn chance happened.

📎 unknown.png

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Now, I'm not sure what the next part means, "Idle- Hero enter".

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And after that, comes, "Direction: Left/Right". Why does left link to right and right to left?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Idk

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Or is that the way it enters from

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 9:49 PM

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The thing with idle is waiting until the knight appears

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 9:49 PM

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So, entry from left, so fly to right

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Probably

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Or entry from right, so fly to left

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Then happens the startle, and then it skedadles away

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Now, how does the "Killed" section work?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 9:50 PM

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?

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Oh

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It receives that it has no hp left

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Then it’s state is set to that

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Hm

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That happens in a different section entirely as it has nothing to do with Menderbug's routine, correct?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 9:53 PM

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No it is just an easier way to have all states have the same transition

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So imagine all states having ZERO HP as a transition and they all lead to the Killed state

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Ah

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So it's unmarked on them because its for all?

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and thats why its differently colored

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ok cool

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Also

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Crystal guardian is apparently "Mega Zombie Beam Miner"

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Alright a question

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How does one manage a bossfight such as Hive Knight

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It seems to have multiple fsms controlling different aspects of the fight

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how does one link between them all?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 10:16 PM

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hive knight actually only has one for the fight

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other is for stunning

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it's just the same as other fsms though

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you modify multiple this time though

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 10:17 PM

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but what about the bees and the spikballs

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 10:17 PM

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try looking at how those are summoned

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 10:18 PM

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like, are they automatically applied when the gameobjects are created or however it works?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 10:18 PM

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look at how they are created

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 10:18 PM

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where do I do that?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 10:18 PM

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have you opened hive knight's fsm?

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Yup

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 10:18 PM

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well

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 10:18 PM

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I see the bee roar for example

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 10:18 PM

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yeah?

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 10:19 PM

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"ActivateGameObject"?

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thats what does it

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probably

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 10:19 PM

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let me look

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 10:19 PM

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gameobject:"Mouth Swarm"

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 10:19 PM

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pretty sure that's just the animation

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 10:20 PM

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oh

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so what does the actual spawning of the swarm?

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or triggers it on

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etc

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 10:20 PM

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look through the rest of the state

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also look through the other bee roar states

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 10:21 PM

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It's one of the purple ones, right?

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 10:21 PM

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yes

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already found it

jolly jungle Nov 1, 2020, 10:21 PM

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hm

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dont tell me

vocal spire Nov 1, 2020, 10:21 PM

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k

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gonna continue developing my customknight+ maker