why do you need to make the saws transperant?
Just aestetics, saws don't fit in the Crossroads for example
#archived-modding-development
compact cobalt
trim totem
i took a big spike hitbox and just resized it a bunch of times
compact cobalt
Mhm. It's what I assumed
vocal spire
make your own hitbox or something
compact cobalt
The problem is though, the hitbox in King's pass is not an actual rectangle
It's 2 in 1 object
vocal spire
that's nice
trim totem
which one
compact cobalt
The only hitbox I was able to find was _Props_Spike 1 iirc
Let me check just in case
This one _Props\Cave Spikes (1)
trim totem
where did you find it?
compact cobalt
It's from Tutorial_01, King's pass scene
vocal spire
I think they mean what program
trim totem
are you using the text files
compact cobalt
Oh, yeah. HKedit2 and the extracted text files
trim totem
the hit box i used was cave spikes
no number
there are multiple spikes with the same name
it picks the first one
not sure how to deal with that
trim totem
i think so
vocal spire
yay
compact cobalt
Finally a spike hitbox
vocal spire
eat the spike
compact cobalt
yay
YAY SPIKES
Can't wait to litter them everywhere
And I think it's the size of the decoration as well
vocal spire
I'm going to try to make assetbundled spikes when I get the chance
compact cobalt
Sorry I don't know what that means
And I'm not gonna try to guess cuz I'm gonna sound stupid lol
vocal spire
vocal spire
idk
compact cobalt
It will come in incredibly useful
vocal spire
ok
vocal spire
ok
compact cobalt
Ok, for anyone curious the feature I was thinking of is not in the debug mod it's a separate mod called 'Show Hitboxes', go figure
compact cobalt
Mhm it's what I thought too
But it's just for enemies
From what I saw at least
Oh no, these collisions are definitely not spike sized
Good to know
vocal spire
lol
floral fractal
how do i edit the sprite png to make a new skin for CustomKnight?
floral fractal
would firealpaca will suffice?
floral fractal
i didnt really figure out how to use the spritepacker
knotty monolith
Have you watched the vid in pins?
fair rampart
I can't believe 56 doesn't know every art program in existence
floral fractal
i did but i didnt get how to get the files to work with it
i dont have to money for photoshop haha 😅
so yeah. didnt reall get how to use it
blissful burrow
Please teach me Sid
safe hamlet
teach what
unborn flicker
what's the difference between the circle and the line, I don't get it
languid goblet
a circle is a line in the shape of a circle
compact cobalt
So judging by the fact that you can create a custom switch gate and toll gates with the item placer with relative ease, I'm assuming it's not all that difficult to do in actual mods. Problem is I couldn't find anything about it on the documentation, so if someone could tell me how it's done it'd be greatly appreciated.
If you need to just preload the objects I'm a bit worried that this will affect the other actual switches that were preloaded or won't open the gate properly, and what if I want to create multiple in a room? So I'd like to clear some of these questions up
young walrus
compact cobalt
Hm. I guess I'll do that
compact cobalt
So I've encountered something odd, I can't preload the lever or gate objects
Preloading other objects works fine
But for some reason whenever I try to preload any lever object my mod doesn't load
unborn flicker
Your mod is failing to load because of an exception. It may be a good use of time to review common exceptions, like performing operations on a null object or requesting a key not present in a dictionary. It is not failing because of any issue with the preloader.
You can use try/catch blocks and logging to identify the exact exception that is occurring. We will not be able to guess what the mistake in your code is.
compact cobalt
Hrm. Well it worked with the lever from the cross roads.
Oh and btw, I was literally just trying to preload the objects, that's it
I didn't actually do anything with the preloaded object, that's why I was confused
compact cobalt
Yeah so I made switch gates
They reset once you reload the room, but I think that makes it even better for what I'm trying to do
copper nacelle
why
safe hamlet
^more context on that image
gilded lotus
i fucking hate you
blissful burrow
Yeah looking at the video I think it's something to do with hazard respawn but someone else should look too
safe hamlet
yea idk why it’s like that, 56 looked into it but couldn’t figure it out
copper nacelle
it actually doesn't load the additive scene
and i unironically don't know why
it's just BeginSceneTransition
works fine if i do it with the debug savestates
which literally do the same thing
because i took the code from them
copper nacelle
it checks entry gate apparently
just set it to dgate
@unborn flicker btw GameManager::FadeSceneIn might work better for the gg transitions
Didn't test godhome specifically but for general scene transitions it seemed to work
trim totem
bruh
safe hamlet
why are you bruhing me khan
ornate rivet
he's bruhing your mom not you
vocal spire
bruh
vocal spire
) :
ornate rivet
good
blissful burrow
What the fuck how can you hate yusuf
Yusuf I love you
Friendship ended with Sid
safe hamlet
i am sorry, it has to be like this
fallow wind
Is there a way to edit the fsms for every enemy of one type in the game
ornate rivet
I believe the only way to do that is to check for the enemy every time the knight enters a new scene and edit it
fallow wind
...ok
copper nacelle
prob want OnColliderCreate if the enemies are spawned in arenas or anything fwiw
torpid epoch
I am new to modding and I am trying to make a simple mod that increases the nail damage each time when the player attacks.
The problem is after I had increased the 'PlayerData.instance.nailDamage', it did not actually change the nail damage in the game.
Is there a way to update it?
copper nacelle
PlayMakerFSM.BroadcastEvent("UPDATE NAIL DAMAGE");
torpid epoch
It shows an error which says 'PlayMakerFSM' does not contain a definition for 'BroadcastEvent'
copper nacelle
reference Playmaker.dll
torpid epoch
It works, thanks
safe hamlet
np
floral furnace
np
copper nacelle
np
weak lodge
np
trim totem
safe hamlet
i actually do tho
the boss rush mod doesn't work anymore
56 didn't even fix it
i just want 56 to fix it
copper nacelle
blissful burrow
vocal spire
Me neither
gilded lotus
@mossy saddle dont advertise
mossy saddle
Sorry
surreal sable
hello! im just starting out with modding hw and i was following 56's tutorial, but i keep getting this error and im not sure what it means, can anyone help me?
using Modding;
namespace Test
{
public class Class1 : Mod
{
public override void Initialize()
{
Log("Initializing test mod.");
}
}
}
it means you have a reference to windows forms
which it's trying to load
but that isn't part of hk so it dies
@surreal sable
surreal sable
so how would i go about removing that reference?
copper nacelle
compact cobalt
So I'm doing an FSM edit and I'm trying to make Crystal Guardian's jumps cause shockwaves, and it doesn't work. Setting the gameObject = shockwave, to gameObject = minion1 works fine and vengeflies spawn as they should. Now I assume this is because the Shockwave requires additional parameters problem is, I don't know how to set them.
These are a few of the parameters that I've found but don't know how to set
Specifically I've been having trouble with the name of the object
Aka the gameObject parameters
vocal spire
you need to store the object somewhere if you are doing it that way
compact cobalt
Oh, you mean preload it with the rest of the preloaded objects?
vocal spire
wdym
compact cobalt
you need to store the object somewhere if you are doing it that way
What do you mean by this? Do I need to preload the Shockwave object at initialize?
compact cobalt
Because I tried doing this as well gameObject = new FsmGameObject("Shockwave Wave"), and it didn't work either
Aight, @ me when you're back
vocal spire
because it is a gameobject not a fsm gameobject
I'll edit your screenshot to show you what I mean
compact cobalt
I can give the code in plain text if it helps
vocal spire
I'm editing the screenshot of the fsm to better tell you what is happening
compact cobalt
Aha, alright then
compact cobalt
Yeah go on
vocal spire
you need to preload the boss that the fsm is on
then
you need to get that exact object from the fsm
it's the shockwave gameobject
compact cobalt
Ok, so do I need to preload Crystal Guardian, or the enemy I'm getting the shockwave from?
vocal spire
the enemy this fsm is from
compact cobalt
Aha, yeah I've done that
vocal spire
ok
compact cobalt
After that?
vocal spire
hold on
@compact cobalt is that the entire fsm state you sent in that screenshot?
I specifically need to know if there is anything above the first action in it
compact cobalt
The fsm viewer or my code?
vocal spire
fsmviewer
compact cobalt
It's just the FSM for Husk Guard in Crossroads_48. Hold up let me send it
vocal spire
ok
compact cobalt
Here it is
Although I doubt it matters much judging by the names, although I might be wrong
AudioOneShotPlayerSingle is the title of the first one
You can't see it in the screenshot
compact cobalt
Land
vocal spire
ok
you need to do something like this to get the object
Shockwave = preload.LocateMyFSM("Zombie Guard").GetAction<SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool>("Land", 7).gameObject.Value;
compact cobalt
that instead of var shockwave = new FsmGameObject("Shockwave Wave [8,63]");?
vocal spire
yeah
vocal spire
yeah
you are supposed to put the preloaded object in place of that
I didn't get to see where you put it after preloading
compact cobalt
Oh, so the Zombie Guard?
vocal spire
yeah
compact cobalt
or did I misunderstand?
vocal spire
you need to put in the zombie guard
wait
I also forgot something
you need to instantiate the object
compact cobalt
The shockwave?
vocal spire
UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate(preload.LocateMyFSM("Zombie Guard").GetAction<SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool>("Land", 7).gameObject.Value);
compact cobalt
Ok, so after I do this do I need to make the additional fsm edits or will this work?
I'll have to try it a bit later though, will you still be here?
compact cobalt
Thanks a bunch!
vocal spire
np
patent zealot
?mods
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Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew
vocal spire
it's on the installer
compact cobalt
Alright I'm back
So what I've got so far is:
var minion1 = GameObject.Instantiate(Hollowed_Mode.preloadedGO["ZombieGuard"]);
minion1.SetActive(true);
UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate(minion1.LocateMyFSM("Zombie Guard").GetAction<SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool>("Land", 7).gameObject.Value);
var shockwave = minion1.LocateMyFSM("Zombie Guard").GetAction<SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool>("Land", 7).gameObject.Value;
boss.GetComponent<HealthManager>().hp = 35;
PlayMakerFSM bossFsm = boss.LocateMyFSM("Beam Miner");
bossFsm.InsertAction("Land", new SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool()
{
gameObject = shockwave,
spawnPoint = boss,
position = new Vector3(0f, -0.9f, 0f),
rotation = new Vector3(0f, 0f, 0f),
storeObject = shockwave
}, 0);```And it still doesn't work, but there's progress
vocal spire
I have found some stuff that is problematic in your code
compact cobalt
Go on
vocal spire
hold on
try to use add action instead of insert action
bossFsm.AddAction("Land", new SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool()
{
gameObject = UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate(preload.LocateMyFSM("Zombie Guard").GetAction<SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool>("Land", 7).gameObject.Value),
spawnPoint = boss,
position = new Vector3(0f, -0.9f, 0),
rotation = Vector3.zero,
storeObject = Shockwave
});
compact cobalt
Is the rest fine?
vocal spire
well, you can delete the other stuff with the code I gave you before
since it is now in addaction
compact cobalt
So this should work? Even if the other states are missing?
compact cobalt
Hrm. Problem is though, storeObject = Shockwave gives an error if I don't have a variable by that name
vocal spire
replace it with the gameobject variable that will store the shockwave
I'll make SetScale for you
compact cobalt
Aight. Thanks again, I appreciate all the help
vocal spire
bossFsm.AddAction("Land", new SetScale()
{
gameObject = Shockwave,
vector = new Vector3(0, 0, 0)
x = 1.25,
y = 0,
z = 0,
everyFrame = false,
lateUpdate = false
});
again replace shockwave with your variable to store the object
compact cobalt
I'm getting errors with the variable
vocal spire
yeah
compact cobalt
How exactly do I define it?
vocal spire
just do public GameObject Shockwave; and it will work
bossFsm.AddAction("Land", new SetFsmBool()
{
gameObject = Shockwave,
fsmName = "shockwave",
variableName = "Facing Right",
setValue = true,
everyFrame = false
});
there is the next one
here is the last one
bossFsm.AddAction("Land", new SetFsmFloat()
{
gameObject = Shockwave,
fsmName = "shockwave",
variableName = "Speed",
setValue = 18,
everyFrame = false
});
after those, it should work
compact cobalt
So uh... sorry but I still don't get how I'm supposed to define the variable
I'm still relatively new to this so you'll have to forgive me
vocal spire
ok
so just paste public GameObject Shockwave; outside of the method
show me a screenshot of your code(also show me slightly above and below)
fair rampart
any triple grave formatting
compact cobalt
I'm so confused. So I just put public GameObject Shockwave; outside of private void OnSceneChanged(UnityEngine.SceneManagement.Scene from, UnityEngine.SceneManagement.Scene to) that's what I needed to do, right?
vocal spire
yes
compact cobalt
And do I just leave the gameObject = Shockwave, or do I replace it with something, I didn't really get that part
vocal spire
yes
now that you have the public gameobject Shcokwave; put in you should keep it the same
compact cobalt
So I just keep gameObject = Shockwave?
Cuz it doesn't work
vocal spire
what's the error?
vocal spire
try changing public GameObject Shockwave; to public GameObject Shockwave = new GameObject("shockwave");
compact cobalt
???
Wait what? Member with same name defined. I'm sure I don't have one like that
vocal spire
oh
compact cobalt
Let me try and change it anyway
vocal spire
maybe you have one with the same name as a local variable?
compact cobalt
Well I changed it but it still doesn't work. The error is gone at least, but there are errors in the fsm edits
hold up I'll send them
Cannot convert type 'UnityEngine.GameObject' to target type 'HutongGames.PlayMaker.FsmOwnerDefault'
compact cobalt
Right, I didn't even say. It's on the gameObject = Shockwave on the fsm states you sent me
vocal spire
ok
let me check mine
wait
@compact cobalt fixed it
bossFsm.AddAction("Land", new SetScale()
{
gameObject = new FsmOwnerDefault()
{
OwnerOption = OwnerDefaultOption.SpecifyGameObject,
GameObject = Shockwave
},
vector = new Vector3(0, 0, 0),
x = 1.25f,
y = 0f,
z = 0f,
everyFrame = false,
lateUpdate = false
});
bossFsm.AddAction("Land", new SetFsmBool()
{
gameObject = new FsmOwnerDefault()
{
OwnerOption = OwnerDefaultOption.SpecifyGameObject,
GameObject = Shockwave
},
fsmName = "shockwave",
variableName = "Facing Right",
setValue = true,
everyFrame = false
});
bossFsm.AddAction("Land", new SetFsmFloat()
{
gameObject = new FsmOwnerDefault()
{
OwnerOption = OwnerDefaultOption.SpecifyGameObject,
GameObject = Shockwave
},
fsmName = "shockwave",
variableName = "Speed",
setValue = 18f,
everyFrame = false
});
if that doesn't work I have another idea
vocal spire
gl
compact cobalt
It still doesn't work and I am very very confused
Why would shockwaves be so complicated to implement?
The only thing I could imagine being wrong now is the position vector here:
bossFsm.AddAction("Land", new SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool()
{
gameObject = UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate(minion1.LocateMyFSM("Zombie Guard").GetAction<SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool>("Land", 7).gameObject.Value),
spawnPoint = boss,
position = new Vector3(0f, -0.9f, 0),
rotation = Vector3.zero,
storeObject = Shockwave
});```Although, I did double check, that's the difference from the crystal guardian's position compared to the floor
vocal spire
maybe they are being summoned to low?
compact cobalt
Maybe the z coordinate matters more than I thought?
vocal spire
try making logs
in between adding the fsm stuff
and use qol and vasi
then check your modlog
compact cobalt
I'm actually so mad. Everything was properly loaded according to the log so I figured that the object (Zombie Guard's Shockwave) is the problem, so I tried to load Soul Master's shockwave instead and now nothing loads, despite the mod having no errors. At this point I'm just venting.
I'm taking a short break and I'll see what I can do to fix it
warm copper
Ah dang man, that sucks, hopefully you can get that sorted out
compact cobalt
Hopefully
mellow stag
Hi. N00b here. Actually not mod developer. I am helping the HK wiki to debug how the Joni blue masks are calculated. So far we see there should be a function named GameManager.UpdateBlueHealth() and we believe the logic should live in there. Could anyone tell me how to get the source code of that function? Or if it's convenient enough for you, could anyone send me the file? My goal is to read that source code and understand the logic and thus can update the wiki accurately.
(Also terribly sorry if this is not the right place for this question. In that case I will appreciate a pointer of redirection if you will.)
😍
Thank you so much! BTW, LOL the username - I asked "Could anyone", and there you go
vocal spire
lol
mellow stag
public void UpdateBlueHealth()
{
this.playerData.UpdateBlueHealth();
}
Could you be kind enough to give the PlayerData file, too? (And to save some back-and-forth trouble, any core logic file that you think might be concerned.)
vocal spire
I was about to say that
mellow stag
oh okay there is a more scalable way. nice
vocal spire
Or ilspy
mellow stag
@vocal spire is there already instruction of downloading dnSpy or ilspy?
vocal spire
Now start making mods!
mellow stag
Now start making mods!
@vocal spire K I will think about it 😄
vocal spire
lol
mellow stag
thx for the pointer 🙂
Also, do we have a charm enum -> charm name mapping somewhere?
E.g. I want to know what's charm_23 and also what's Joni's number.
mellow stag
Got it! thx @vocal spire
vocal spire
Np
ornate rivet
Speaking of apidocs
I just added the scene making video on to there along with the problems SFG found with it. Also added LoadFromStream() and fixed the bug on the hooks page where code was running off the window.
ornate rivet
awesome
compact cobalt
I think I’ll get my boss tutorial out this week!
Please do, and please include how to do shockwaves I still can't get it to work
ornate rivet
Propeller Knight uses them
https://github.com/SalehAce1/Propeller-Knight/tree/master/PropellerKnight
compact cobalt
Propeller Knight uses them
https://github.com/SalehAce1/Propeller-Knight/tree/master/PropellerKnight
I know and I've been trying to recreate them
And uh, no luck
ornate rivet
Preload ("Ruins1_24_boss", "Mage Lord")
then do
private void SpawnWave(bool faceRight)
{
PlayMakerFSM lord = PropellerKnight.preloadedGO["wave"].LocateMyFSM("Mage Lord");
GameObject go = Instantiate(lord.GetAction<SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool>("Quake Waves", 0).gameObject.Value);
go.transform.localScale = new Vector2(1.5f, 1f);
PlayMakerFSM shock = go.LocateMyFSM("shockwave");
shock.FsmVariables.FindFsmBool("Facing Right").Value = faceRight;
shock.FsmVariables.FindFsmFloat("Speed").Value = 22f;
go.SetActive(true);
go.transform.SetPosition2D(gameObject.transform.position.x, gameObject.transform.position.y-0.2f);
}
this is actually not the best way to do it
but it should it work
fair rampart
the waves also need to be on the ground or they won't spawn
ornate rivet
oh yea ^^
so you want to change this line
go.transform.SetPosition2D(gameObject.transform.position.x, gameObject.transform.position.y-0.2f);
compact cobalt
Aight I'll check it out later, can't rn
But I think I pretty much did the same thing
compact cobalt
Oh, no this won't work, I'm trying to edit FSM
So unless I can call functions in FSM, this won't work or at least I don't think it will
ornate rivet
you can
compact cobalt
Oh, how?
compact cobalt
Uh, I can't see anything about sub-programs there
ornate rivet
InsertMethod
copper nacelle
I cannot believe Saleh put a warning and then pr'd modcommon without fixing it
ornate rivet
I didn't feel like it ok
compact cobalt
Also do the shockwaves need to be EXACTLY floor level right?
ornate rivet
plus, isn't Vasi a thing now?
ornate rivet
OHH I should make a guide for that
copper nacelle
vasi has it right because when I break someone else's mod for using it I won't care
ornate rivet
EYEmMIKE, not exactly, they need to touch the floor
compact cobalt
So a bit in it is fine?
ornate rivet
yea
compact cobalt
Alright let me try this now
blissful burrow
I'm in for the "Vasi will break one day" ride
ornate rivet
ok so I cant do a tutorial on vasi
copper nacelle
I mean you can
I'll just up the major version eventually and break something
I just don't want it to become something I never touch again because if I change anything 80 mods break
no
ornate rivet
wait so why would you expect me to change modcommon's insertmethod method when it will break a lot of mods
ornate rivet
oh yea
copper nacelle
I would probably rewrite modcommon's fsmutil but I already rewrote it with a different abi is my point
I can't change it there because no one's going to bother
I don't want it to be the case with a library I wrote myself for myself
compact cobalt
Holy shit it actually works
I almost can't believe it
Dude you have no idea how much you've helped me out
If I want to make it travel both ways, i just add another one and do faceRight = false yeah?
copper nacelle
if you were using true before yeah
ornate rivet
This was me when I did it for the first too 
but please read the docs more carefully next time 
vocal spire
I guess I’ll use shockwave spam for my next boss mod
compact cobalt
but please read the docs more carefully next time
Yeah I honestly have no idea how I missed that my first time through. Thanks for the help!
I guess I’ll use shockwave spam for my next boss mod
cough Grey Prince Zote cough
That was probably TC's mindset when they designed that boss
vocal spire
Imagine vengefly king with shockwaves
compact cobalt
Hmmm I'm stealing that
compact cobalt
Aha, yeah I thought you already did
compact cobalt
Nice, it's gonna be a massive help to people like me who are just learning how to mod
ornate rivet
how does a roar create ground shock waves
compact cobalt
Be sure to share it, I'd love to see what you've made
vocal spire
Idk
compact cobalt
how does a roar create ground shock waves
why not
vocal spire
Just insert method
ornate rivet
at least make it slam into the ground
compact cobalt
^
vocal spire
And don’t question
compact cobalt
That would be better
ornate rivet
gruzzfly king
vocal spire
Nah, idk how to properly edit random events
In Uuwuu I just replaced original attacks over and over again
In lifeblood master I just chained multiple of the different phases for more attacks
compact cobalt
I see. Also question, why lifeblood master?
compact cobalt
Are bees connected to lifeblood in any way?
vocal spire
Don’t ask about the name
compact cobalt
Or was it just cool?
ornate rivet
lifeblood update added bee boss
vocal spire
I let other people come up with better reasons for me
lifeblood update added bee boss
@ornate rivet not the real reason but another better one
compact cobalt
Also yeah learn random events so I don't have to and you can just tell me
vocal spire
I haven’t seen other mods do it though. If you know a mod that does, I would like to know how to
compact cobalt
Well, y'know I'm still a newbie to all of this so I wouldn't really know
I assume Pardoner Fennel does it?
ornate rivet
DoH
vocal spire
I do
compact cobalt
DoH?
ornate rivet
Daughter of Hallownest
vocal spire
Ok
vocal spire
I thought I looked at those
ornate rivet
idk how to properly edit random events
wdym
ornate rivet
just remove it and add your own method then
vocal spire
Yeah
ornate rivet
vocal spire
I didn’t think of it when I made Uuwuu and lm
Thanks for clarifying that I should still use methods instead
A lot
From what I know
Idk
I haven’t looked at boss fsms in a while
I think crystal guardian uses it
That’s where I tried to edit it
Ok
Just remove it and add a method to do it instead?
I tried that and it didn’t work
Crystal guardian just got stuck in a staring battle with me
Ok
Please tell me if I’m dumb
lol
vocal spire
Thanks
I’ll include both ways in the boss tutorial
If I can get the courage to use my voice
Ok
lol
I’ll probably use my voice though
I just need to write and rehearse a script
limber storm
Is there where I would ask about how to dive into the code of the game?
limber storm
So I'm looking this in ILSpy, is there a way to figure out the actual effect?
limber storm
Yeah I was trying to figure out how much soul you get when taking damage while Grubsong is equipped, and got to that
vocal spire
That may be in a fsm or something
limber storm
Yeah, that's actually how I found it
I could track the actual amount of soul before and after getting hit... just wondered if there was a way to find it without doing that
copper nacelle
I mean if you found the int you could analyse uses and see methods which use it
Or if you analyzed AddMPCharge you could see what adds soul and where
limber storm
The TakeDamage is the only thing that uses GRUB_SOUL_MP and the picture above is where it's used there
limber storm
Yeah
copper nacelle
just log it while in game
vocal spire
yeah
copper nacelle
You can get ModConsole if you don't want to build anything
Just HeroController.instance.GRUB_SOUL_MP
limber storm
Well that was easier than I thought it'd be; I guess the game just sets various ints when you boot it up or something?
vocal spire
maybe it's in a fsm?
copper nacelle
in assets I assume
limber storm
Thank you both!
copper nacelle
who
vocal spire
Why do they want access to the mod summaries?
limber storm
If I have questions about the accuracy of values that I data-mined, should I ask here?
My game seems to say that ATTACK_DURATION and ATTACK_DURATION_CH are 0.35 and 0.28 respectively. The Wiki page for Quick Slash seems to say those values are actually 0.36 and 0.25: https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Quick_Slash
It also seems to say that DASH_COOLDOWN and DASH_COOLDOWN_CH are 0.6, and 0.4 respectively. The Wiki page on Dashmaster says the charm reduces the time by 50%: https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Dashmaster
It also seems to say that NAIL_CHARGE_TIME_DEFAULT is 1.35. The Wiki page on Nailmaster's Glory says it is 1.75: https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Nailmaster's_Glory
Oh wow, thank you!
limber storm
Do you happen to have the length of the nail when using no charms, Longnail, Mark of Pride, and both? I was looking but what I found was some coding I couldn't entirely understand
Hmm alright, guess it was my not understanding the code that confused me then. I thought it was 1.20, 1.30, and 1.50 respsectively
west ridge
Longnail length*(1/1.15) = normal length
should be good enough maths
limber storm
Yup, I guess the formula just make it look like it's 1.20
fair rampart
How do a create a mod?
safe hamlet
you don't
vocal spire
you eat c#
rain cedar
Very helpful community
safe hamlet
read this first
and you can navigate through the website on your own
you would want dnSpy to look at the game's code and fsmviewer as decent portion of the game is coded with fsms
as for the ide, you would want either visual studio (which is free) or rider (it's paid but you can get it if you are a student)
tho i do recommend learning basic c# if you don't know it already, it will help greatly
fair rampart
Ok thank you.
compact cobalt
I'm having a bit of trouble getting double damage to work, or well rather, custom damage
I tried to do this, but it doesn't work
DamageHero dmg = boss.GetComponent<DamageHero>();
dmg.damageDealt = 2;```dump the object (ref modcommon, using ModCommon; boss.PrintSceneHierarchyTree(); file is in mods folder)
might be on a child and you use GetComponentInChildren
If it's old it might be on an fsm
compact cobalt
Yeah I tried GetComponentInChildren and it didn't work so it might be in fsm
It's for the Vengefly King, so it very well might be
Although I didn't see anything like that in the fsm. How would the fsm action be called?
copper nacelle
no it would just be an fsm called "damages_hero"
compact cobalt
Aha. Aight then I'll look for it
copper nacelle
If you have a dump I can take a look rq
copper nacelle
either works tbh
compact cobalt
Yeah I do, it's from the GG_Scenes, hold up
Here it is
Although I tried it on multiple enemies and none of them worked, that's why I think the problem is in my coding
Most of them were bosses with complex fsm, so that might be why
compact cobalt
Mhm. So how would I change it? I can't find damageHero in the fsm viewer. Still relatively new to changing FSM I've just changed 5 boss AIs so far and I haven't seen anything damage related in any of them
copper nacelle
did you check logs?
I'd bet on it not finding the game object and then throwing on the next line
compact cobalt
Didn't use logs yet since I thought I'd get it first try. That's probably it, or I'm trying to modify an incorrect parameter/component
compact cobalt
It actually was FSM, this ended up doing it bossFsm.GetAction<SetDamageHeroAmount>("Intro Roar Antic", 6).damageDealt = 3;
vocal spire
Yay
compact cobalt
Yay indeed
Now for another thing, I'm trying to modify the damage that shockwaves do, but just because of HK mechanics that might be impossible?
I haven't looked at the FSM of the shockwave object so I might be wrong on that one
Aren't they the same object?
Not Traitor Lord's shockwaves
Just regular shockwaves that False Knight, Husk Guards, Zote do for example
Can their damage be modified, or is it hard coded? Needless to say this doesn't work
x.damageDealt = 2;```Aight
Yeah same thing, I don't know where the FSM would be
I want to change it though, because on bosses that do 2 masks of damage it's just bad when you can get away with only taking 1 damage because of the shockwave
I know Zote shockwaves do more than 1 damage, but I think that just might be a global modifier to all sources of damage like Radiant and Ascended difficulty are
Hm. Actually I might just do that
If there's no way to modify shockwave damage, I'll just modify all of the enemies' damage to be 1 and then just change the damage modifier when entering the room
Modifying shockwave damage would still be a much cleaner solution though
Oh
Do tell
Hm. Alright let me try that
I messed up something in my function, can you take a look?
{
PlayMakerFSM lord = Hollowed_Mode.preloadedGO["Soul Master"].LocateMyFSM("Mage Lord");
GameObject go = GameObject.Instantiate(lord.GetAction<SpawnObjectFromGlobalPool>("Quake Waves", 0).gameObject.Value);
go.transform.localScale = new Vector2(scale, scale);
PlayMakerFSM shock = go.LocateMyFSM("shockwave");
shock.FsmVariables.FindFsmBool("Facing Right").Value = faceRight;
shock.FsmVariables.FindFsmFloat("Speed").Value = speed;
PlayMakerFSM shockFsm = go.LocateMyFSM("Spawn");
var shockFsmVar = shockFsm.FsmVariables;
shockFsmVar.GetFsmInt("Damage").Value = 3;
go.SetActive(true);
go.transform.SetPosition2D(posX, posY);
}```Yeah I know that, I'm just doing this for testing purpuses
It doesn't though, the enemies just softlock when I have this method inserted in the AI
Where did you find the fsm?
Maybe I'll be able to see what I'm doing wrong
Hm. Then I guess I'll have to switch from Soul Master's shockwaves to GPZ shockwaves
Actually, hold up
Is that variable in GPZ's fsm or in GPZ Shockwave's FSM?
mhm. Alright then I'll have to take a closer look
compact cobalt
Alright so there's a thing I actually can't explain. I modified Brooding Mawlek's FSM in the Crossroads without any problems, I've tested it and it works perfectly. Problem is whenever I try to change Mawlek's FSM in Godhome it just doesn't work. The room loads, other changes (like adding in preloaded objects) work absolutely fine, and even the object according to the logs gets loaded successfully, but if I try to modify them or change their FSM the rest of the code is just ignored. Why could this be happening?
It's not like the FSM is different for the 2 different Mawleks, in fact I edited the one in Crossroads just by looking at the FSM of the one in Godhome, so I really have no idea why this is happening
vocal spire
wait until the object is loaded
do something like this
private static IEnumerator AddComponent()
{
yield return null;
yield return new WaitWhile(() => !GameObject.Find("bossname"));
GameObject.Find("bossname").AddComponent<Boss>();
yield break;
}
then make the fsm edits in place of addcomponent or make a monobehavior that does the edits
compact cobalt
I'll try it out
calm mesa
How do I begin modding, like what software language etc
pseudo geode
compact cobalt
Can someone explain to me why this doesn't work, cuz I'm losing my mind
rain cedar
You have to call StartCoroutine(waiter()) on a MonoBehaviour
compact cobalt
Alright, will that make the code afterwards (even if it's not in the monobehaviour) execute after the wait is finished?
Is there literally, no other way to just wait 2 damn seconds before executing the code?
rain cedar
There's no way to block unless you're in a coroutine
compact cobalt
Great
56, if you can help me in any way, then by all means finish what you were typing
copper nacelle
it was a joke
idk why you're just incrementing the local scale though
it would look better if you lerp'd
compact cobalt
Idk I just wanted to try anything to see of it worked
I'm new to unity scripting, but it seems very silly that there is no simple wait command
God, the typos
I guess I'll have to write monobehaviours, but it's stupid that I need to do that just because the damn mawlek object appears 2 seconds after room load
copper nacelle
there's just the search bar
You can filter by class member and within an assembly
rain cedar
If that's the only problem you could do something like
private IEnumerator WaitForMawlek()
{
mawlek = null;
while (mawlek == null)
{
mawlek = Object.Find("WhateverMawlekIsCalled");
yield return null;
}
foundMawlek = true;
}```So I'm looking around using FSMView and ILSpy trying to find the formulas for Fury of the Fallen, Unbreakable Strength, and Grubberfly's Elegy but not having much luck. I found this, but that's about it. Does anybody know where I'd find them?
vocal spire
I don’t think they are used in any scenes so you can’t view those fsms
limber storm
Does that mean I can't find them or there's some other program/method?
vocal spire
You probably can’t find them
limber storm
@jolly oriole Has helped me out; all is well, thank you again
safe hamlet
np
vocal spire
lol
fair rampart
Hello!
Where I can get the Glacier Knight Skin - Cold as Ice - Custom Skin by dreamlike?
#archived-modding-help If it's not in the folder with custom knights then ask here
languid goblet
compact cobalt
I did the most messy solution ever but at least the mawlek works now
gusty drum
Haha mood
ornate rivet
but really, how come utiny ripper cant properly export script files
even dnspy can do that
why cant utiny do that
copper nacelle
what's the problem with that
ornate rivet
it would be nice if it decompiled all the script files for me
ornate rivet
I'm going to have to replace a ton of script files if I do that
ornate rivet
it sounds like effort
copper nacelle
If you're just doing that there's an option in dnspy's GUI too
just file -> export to solution
ornate rivet
do you happen to have a helper class for making new maps too 
can't wait
That video isn't for a mod (although I would love to make an abyss mod one day), it's for a guide I'm making on editing scenes
ornate rivet
death
ornate rivet
then hyped I shall be
vocal spire
Good luck grenade
ornate rivet
How do I get the scene's music to play properly? I keep getting this error
[ERROR]:[UNITY] - NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
[ERROR]:[UNITY] - AudioManager+<BeginApplyAtmosCue>c__Iterator0.MoveNext ()
[ERROR]:[UNITY] - UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (IEnumerator enumerator, IntPtr returnValueAddress)
[ERROR]:[UNITY] - UnityEngine.MonoBehaviour:StartCoroutine(IEnumerator)
[ERROR]:[UNITY] - AudioManager:ApplyAtmosCue(AtmosCue, Single)
[ERROR]:[UNITY] - SceneManager:DMD<SceneManager::Start>(SceneManager)
[ERROR]:[UNITY] - SceneTutorial.LoadScene:SceneManagerOnStart(orig_Start, SceneManager)
[ERROR]:[UNITY] - MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition:DMD<DMD<Hook<SceneManager::Start>?187075584>?-862727808::Hook<SceneManager::Start>?187075584>(SceneManager)
Right now i set the scenemanager properties of the original scene to the new one
foreach (FieldInfo fi in typeof(SceneManager).GetFields())
{
fi.SetValue(self, fi.GetValue(SceneTutorial.sm.GetComponent<SceneManager>()));
}
remove the old one, yes?
safe hamlet
didn't saleh have modding staff
ornate rivet
no?
safe hamlet
also any Vasi
ornate rivet
I haven't looked at vasi yet
safe hamlet
better modcommon
far better
like 100x at least
neither have i
because effort
:feelsokayman:
he is slowing turning into me
don't worry about it
what do you think of this one
ornate rivet
how do you get them
safe hamlet
it's owo what's this image host
it's invite only, but i already used my invite on someone else
ornate rivet
replacing the gamemanager didn't work
I meant scenemanager
my bad
I'm guessing I wasn't doing it early enough
I hooked to scenemanager's Start() and replaced the self with
orig(SceneTutorial.sm.GetComponent<SceneManager>());
now it works
yea but it doesn't matter
right?
true
wtf it doesn't work anymore
It doesn't give the error though
vocal spire
Here is another instance of why doesn’t it work anymore
coral cloud
ornate rivet
all the effects (breaking objects, spike tink, etc) only work once, after that, the material breaks (turn pink)
ornate rivet
and I still dont know how to stop the godhome music
it doesn't stop playing the music from the previous scene
I thought copying the abyss's sm stuff was supposed to fix it
abyss_09
yea, I tried dirtmouth too
thx
ornate rivet
ahhh that explains why switching to the real scene didn't fix the music either
thanks!
ornate rivet
editing scenes is so much fun once all the technical issues are fixed
it's really satisfying
vocal spire
Is editing scenes just moving stuff around in hkedit or something like that?
ornate rivet
not hkedit but with the unity project utiny ripper makes
ornate rivet
working on a doc for it rn
https://radiance.host/apidocs/EditScene.html
vocal spire
Cool!
ornate rivet
all I have to do now is get the water working and I'm done
vocal spire
Yay
vocal spire
lol
wdym, text telling you where to go without knowing where to go without a link is perfect
ornate rivet
yessir
vocal spire
lol
vocal spire
Yay
ornate rivet
it will help yall make the arenas so it is Pale Court work
flat forum
Do You Not Remember That You Are But A Slave To Others' Expectations Of The Mod
ornate rivet
sounds kinky
ornate rivet
thanks
vocal spire
can't wait to enslave every hollow knight player by making harder versions of maps
grizzled steppe
Should I be scared
ornate rivet
but it does
https://youtu.be/O_nSYGb6BCQ
thanks for reminding me to add that
welp
vocal spire
can't you just place a new gateway thing to one of the new scenes in kings pass then connect all of the new scenes?
ornate rivet
yea
vocal spire
yay
sage holly
vocal spire
oooooooooooooo
safe hamlet
i am proud
ornate rivet
Would it be better to make a new SFCore section?
I'm planning on doing a vasi one eventually if 56 doesn't
do you want me to put that zip on the modinstaller SFG?
okie
Does it have any dependencies like modcommon?
vocal spire
yay
I don't need to update charm helper anymore
I wonder what happened to them
So we just do everything the same except don’t have our own charm helper class?
Cool
ornate rivet
I will take that as a no
ok
just make a new .rst file
then add its name to the index.rst file
@copper nacelle add a search bar to modinstaller 2 pls
SFCore should be on the modinstaller now, test it to make sure
vocal spire
yay
vocal spire
lol
why are you asking yourself
does any person know how to make an enemy such as watcher knight not have a special dying animation?
or possibly change it?
ornate rivet
change the fsm?
ornate rivet
You can make hyperlinks with
`Text <https://radiance.host/apidocs/Assets.html>`_
@jolly oriole
you can do that too
but that's kinda annoying
How much faster/less memory intensive is preloading objects from the same scene compared to getting them from different ones
ughhhhh
I moved the section to after PlayMakerFSM instead of at the very end
ah whoops, thanks for telling me
ah it just needed an empty line before you start bulleting
Added it, thanks SFG! 🎊
https://radiance.host/apidocs/SFCore.html
we better start getting high tier mods now
ToT when
ornate rivet
ornate rivet
I might make a mod that replaces boring charms with stuff like laser beams and grimm attacks
vocal spire
that sounds cool
dire glen
maybe just make new charms though?
vocal spire
new charms are easy to make
dire glen
yeah, that's why you do that and not replace old one
ornate rivet
oh yea I meant new charms
vocal spire
that seems fun to make
languid goblet
:macebug: when
dire glen
thats glorious, and somewhat concerning
vocal spire
thank you, it's beautiful
cool that we can replace those sprites, are you working on adding to the map?
good luck also if you are able to do it, are you going to make it into a helper class?
cool
u r cool
?
are they ok?
vocal spire
if it crashes will you be kind of mad or really mad?
ok
yay
good job!
the world has forever changed
lol
because why wouldn't they
......why?.....
ornate rivet
vocal spire
yaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy
awwwwwwwwwwwww
ancient basic or custom fits surprisingly well with deepnest
that does seem like it could be useful to access that
well
makes it seem like it could kind of be useful
copper nacelle
can you not just reflect
vocal spire
I would say that but I didn't want to accidentally be dumb if I said the wrong thing
fallow wind
we better start getting high tier mods now
Me: makes one-hit kill mod
vocal spire
too simple
we must MURDER the player with new/modded bosses and have soooo many maps and new stuff that they must to 99999% the game
dire glen
mod that adds an addition 337% to the game, another path of pain, and an all modded bosses pantheon?
sounds fun
fallow wind
I haven't modded in a while (aka like 2 weeks), so this may be a stupid question, but after summoning the primal aspid, how would i activate it? would i just use fsm.SetState("Init")
fallow wind
nvm, I think I got it
pine girder
Hey creators of Pale Court I found a leak in here
weak lodge
?
wdym
if youre talking about the old build that redfrog leaked a while ago we know
weak lodge
from?
flat forum
pine girder
I can show you if you want
flat forum
yes?
weak lodge
sure
patent zealot
Woah orange knightmere, congrats
ornate rivet
the whole isma fight is "leaked" if we go by that definition
we posted it here a long time ago
ornate rivet
yea
compact cobalt
nvm, I think I got it
@fallow wind Actually can you tell me as well?
Been trying to activate Primal Aspids with no luck, because if you're modding, but can't spam primal aspids, then what's the point amirite?
fallow wind
so i haven't tried it yet due to my messed-up scedule, but i think you just send the "finished" event or something
don't take my word for it
compact cobalt
Can't hurt to try
fair rampart
Hello, I created a mod that turns your life into hell, huh,and to be honest, it just changes the characters of the main character a little
(This is my first mod,do not judge strictly)
Changes:
- player mobility has been increased
- the jump height was increased
- the player's health was reduced from 5 to 3
(Many thanks to @vocal spire for introducing me to C# and creating mods)
fallow wind
i think it was originally 3 masks
when team cherry first started
i'm not judging it, it's much better compared to my first mod
(which basically turns the game into nothing but an annoyance)
fair rampart
(which basically turns the game into nothing but an annoyance)
Thank you for advice
fallow wind
? I meant my mod
fair rampart
Oh, I'm sorry, I don't know much English
fallow wind
it's fine
fallow wind
fsm viewer keeps crashing...
vocal spire
that's sad
vapid cape
One bug I notice, and fairly big: the mod doesn't do anything to revert health when you uninstall it, and I don't think it accounts for extra masks retroactively. Disabling it leaves the file with 3 masks, so anyone playing with this right now should be sure not to test it on a main file.
another thing: Sprintmaster slows you down with this.
vocal spire
i thought I told them to make it faster......
I noticed that they did that
and told them that
copper nacelle
just hook getint
there's no need to set stuff when literally every access to a pd field is detoured
ornate rivet
if you bundle multiple scenes then the scene bundles shouldn't have duplicate assets?
ok that's what I meant.
is there a way to stop unity from automatically including the same dependencies across multiple bundles?
ok I just dragged all the auto dependencies into a separate bundle
hopefully this works
ornate rivet
What are the reasons for the screen in my new scene being entirely black
the camera's state is fine
ok camera being far off is correct I think, because it's set to locked instead of following
well freak
that didn't fix it
vocal spire
oof
I have begun the long process of using utiny
I saw someone else tried to do something like that and it didn’t work
Maybe you need to add the event?
Like add it to the state?
In the play maker editor, adding the event to the state and adding a transition are 2 different things
ornate rivet
that looks awesome!
vocal spire
Wow, that’s awesome!
vocal spire
utiny finally finished
ornate rivet
damn 3 hours
vocal spire
why tc
why make a spiderweb
when you can make a good, understandable, neat fsm
it's not a question of how not to. it's a question of how to make it less
unity is still opening the exported project.......
ornate rivet
vocal spire
Yessss unity loaded
vocal spire
I can make my pop mod finally....
*easily make
fixing errors
fixed
time to violently murder players with my pop/wp remix
going to include your abyss edit too bc it looks cool
odd mist
what's the easiest way to edit things like sound assets?
vocal spire
hey saleh, on the editing scenes guide I was matching my lighting settings but I seem to have an setting not described there called Ambient mode in the environment lighting section what should I set it to?
nvm
it disappeared after I did some other stuff later on
lol
vocal spire
prepare for another new path of pain(probably going to be connected to my modded boss pantheon mod when I make it)
flat forum
y'al put the PoPs in other rooms pls
vocal spire
no
flat forum
PK be like "time to put all my hidden treasures in the same room"
copper nacelle
either way grenade you probably want to use new Hook(MethodInfo, MethodInfo)
can loop over stuff and call the constructor
With hook's constructor you can just use a Func/Action instead of the custom delegates and avoid having to repeat methods
Closest example I have is this
Which does a bunch of simple IL hooks which can be used repeatedly on multiple methods
You can also do Hook(Delegate, Delegate) or Hook(MethodInfo, Delegate) but delegates need an explicit type conversion from method group
but it's good for functions which return functions to generalize behaviour
blissful burrow
Wait wheres the quick map fsm
I didn't know that existed but I actually need to look at that
Knight pickup?
blissful burrow
Ah it's still awful
Epic
I have a switch that is pretty much just the Check Area spiderweb and was looking to replace it but I was a fool to think TC would have a better method
ornate rivet
the light house room in the abyss doesn't work for some reason
and by that I mean, my screen is black
I can move around and I spawn in the correct, non-negative area
copper nacelle
racism
ornate rivet
trying out something, if that doesn't work I'll send the dll
ok the problem is the camera
it's weird because the camera and camera lock are in the exact same position the original and new scene but for some reason it doesn't work the same way in the edited scene
copper nacelle
yes
vocal spire
I'm also having a problem with the lighthouse room
I placed a gate there but I spawn below everything. I know the gate is in the correct spot because when I go to the place where I placed it a screen transition still takes place
but when I go back the room seems to load and I can hear the sawblades(I placed the entrance in white palace) but I can't pause or control the knight
yaaaaaaaay
I'll post the code here
if (self.sceneName == "White_Palace_06")
{
CreateGateway("RedFrogPOP",
new Vector2(10f, 17f), new Vector2(1f,4f),
"RORA1", "right test",
true,false,
GameManager.SceneLoadVisualizations.Default);
}
else if (self.sceneName == "RORA1")
{
Modding.Logger.Log("MADE1");
CreateGateway("right test",
new Vector2(0.5f,26f), new Vector2(1f,4f),
"White_Palace_06", "RedFrogPOP",
true,false,
GameManager.SceneLoadVisualizations.Default);
base.StartCoroutine(blurplane());
Modding.Logger.Log("MADE1");
}
rora1 stands for road of redfrog abyss 1
also I can get back to the scene by using the water in it
so I know my scene loads