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#archived-modding-development
copper nacelle
west ridge
what is the referance for UnityEngine.SceneManagement.SceneManager
unborn flicker
using UnityEngine;
using UnityEngine.SceneManagement;
copper nacelle
wdym homothety
your xml is malformed
there's an extra > on L1037 before the closing tag
unborn flicker
wtf
west ridge
on knight?
unborn flicker
I knew one day I would pay the price for editing on the webpage
west ridge
oh ok thank you
i feel stupier then normal probably a sign i need to hit the hay sorry for bothing you
jade willow
ahhhh so my debug.log does show up in the output_log, this is great
copper nacelle
using debug.log 
ornate rivet
what is the name of the pillar traitor lord makes
I thought it was mega_mantis_tall_slash but I'm not sure now
Edit: I was correct but was tricked by tc fsm trickery
gilded lotus
mega_mantis_slash_thing 0000-0005
jade willow
what's the other solution when working on something that extends monobehaviour and not Mod?
copper nacelle
Modding.Logger.Log
or have an instance field for your mod and do YourMod.Instance.Log
I just create a method which does Modding.Logger.Log("[Name]: " + obj) usually
jade willow
ahh that makes sense
jade willow
now my UI properly fades in and out properly when pausing, I'd also need to find the hooks to use for the quick map and inventory, I found "On.GameMap.CloseQuickMap"
Which seems to be related to what I want, but it gets called when going from the zoomed-in map to the full map which isn't exactly what I am looking for.
patent zealot
Damn good job!
weak lodge
jngo where'd you get the assets from
is it public like the hk stuff in art discussion
fair rampart
I just looked up cuphead sprites
weak lodge
huh
jade willow
very nicely done
vocal spire
Cool
tame elm
awesome, dude
heavy pelican
when is cuphead dlc coming out?
nimble lake
Tell me anyone, tell me
fair rampart
june 16th
west ridge
Really? That's epic! 8 more days!
Will we mod that game as well?
Or more lightly will you mod it while i go how does this work? Again
fair rampart
that was a joke
flat forum
fiery wind
i wish there was a mod to change the color of the cape
vocal spire
Custom knight
west ridge
I can make a custom skin for you though I would be using custom knight
@fair rampart dammit I was really hoping you weren't XD
west ridge
It should work are you having issues?
sour fossil
it doesn't change anithing in mine
copper nacelle
press focus
west ridge
If that doesn't work read the install instructions and make sure you are using the right version of hollow knight
west ridge
Thank you 56 I know I would of messed up helping somehow XD
tawny onyx
try to make a simple porting for MultiPlayerServer Mod
vocal spire
cool
tawny onyx
next i'll set up in my server
west ridge
how do you create and intagrate p2p port-mapping (not forwarding) like this i can't find it on google no matter how hard i try i found a scetchy looking port mapping program that asks for £50 pounds but i know there must be a way to do it yourself
leaden hedge
you mean you want to do punchthrough?
you require a mitm server
because port mapping is port forwarding afaik
you're just mapping a port to a local address
west ridge
i thought port mapping was portforwarding without needing to loggin to your router or like an alternative to port forwarding
what is punch through?
leaden hedge
there is no way to open ports without a middleman or portforwarding
and thats using punchthrough
west ridge
punchthroughing is a middleman?
west ridge
how do you find a scene's name using the knight file (i understand it is a txt (thank you 56))
west ridge
nvm my mistake
i'm thinking of making a tutorial series for hollow knight modding to help newer modders (referancing radiance host ect) is there anything i should know/you think i should mention
ornate rivet
hooks, modding api, fsm, assetbundling
west ridge
thank you
how do i veiw an fsm and edit it i can't find it pinned
i DO see a meme about it though
vocal spire
Fsm viewer
vocal spire
Pretty sure fsm viewer doesn’t let you edit
west ridge
i've tried it on level0, 1, 2, 3, 4 ect and i cant see it show anything even tried shared assets
how does it work then afaik it's a visual way of coding
oh i see only some of them have fsm's
leaden hedge
You edit it with code
vocal spire
Take a look at a boss mod
west ridge
do i need to call them the same stuff i.e
i've moved where my steam stores my games how do i use the open scene list and resoure.assets function?
it says to contact nes does it mean nesquack?
vocal spire
Idk
west ridge
oof
west ridge
how does one create an fsm?
ornate rivet
yea
west ridge
???
safe hamlet
np
vocal spire
Where have you been? I’ve seen many situations where people were waiting for you to say np
ornate rivet
I was answering the nes question
I dont think you can make fsms without a copy of playmaker
there is no reason for you to make an fsm with code
dark wigeon
wow you guys don't even remember me
copper nacelle
i do smh
dark wigeon
don't worry I'm coming back for real just not yet
safe hamlet
who are you
dark wigeon
who are you
copper nacelle
ornate rivet
cant wait for hkworldedit3
dark wigeon
funny joke
safe hamlet
it's funny because it's true
dark wigeon
this is true
fair rampart
can't wait for non-crashing fsmview
dark wigeon
tab closing?
dark wigeon
yeah idk give me an exception or way to reprod and I'll fix it
ornate rivet
fair
dark wigeon
@fair rampart all the time for you?
ornate rivet
@west ridge might need your help
https://discordapp.com/channels/283467363729408000/327461802311155714/719625147908096031
dark wigeon
already fixed in pms
yeah my tab implementation was trash
I can redo that right now
west ridge
i hope i didn't get you stuck in work you don't wanna do
copper nacelle
because it's effort
west ridge
i mean
safe hamlet
not really with an outdated, overused meme
west ridge
can't really call it code
copper nacelle
yeah
copper nacelle
i'm not going to recode a boss for the purpose of proving that i have the ability to not be braindead
leaden hedge
ok
nimble lake
ok
rain cedar
Ara you're taking this as if it's a personal insult on the game/devs
Like obviously everyone here thinks the game is designed well or we wouldn't be modding it
It's just poorly made, regardless of the game design
Like even TC knows this, they hired outside help for programming
copper nacelle
nimble lake
^
me
leaden hedge
i don't think the game is designed well at all
fluke does 80 damage and costs 3 notches
rain cedar
lmao
You're right they have no idea on little details
Dreamshield 3 notches is also extremely confusing
And dream wielder 1 notch
ornate rivet
random number generator
rain cedar
I guess it's more like the boss and world design is really good
Other than a few exceptions like uumuu
nimble lake
"few"
leaden hedge
i mean they aren't great fights
nimble lake
obviously most of them were designed well
nimble lake
but trust me, after starting doing pantheons all bindings attempts, you see some things
grey prince zote sented me
rain cedar
gpz is kinda bad yeah
nimble lake
that's right, SENTED
nimble lake
mantis traitor just randomly walking forward after the shockwave attack because he doesn't check to see if you're close to him
west ridge
why do you ask
rain cedar
That doesn't really reflect on the design, though
west ridge
true
leaden hedge
i mean their lack of playtesting and balance really ruins most of the bosses
nimble lake
yea, i blame simo
rain cedar
They clearly playtested the game properly, as evidenced by buffing fluke to nearly double the current damage
And not even noticing that it literally broke the game to use
west ridge
oof
rain cedar
Up to hidden dreams using fluke in any wave/arena fight would cause it to desync
If people are unaware
rain cedar
But anyway if you play any game for hundreds of hours you're eventually gonna notice more bad than good
west ridge
how are dreams even stored my suspicion is they are just really far outta bounds but they use secences to load other new areas instead of that
rain cedar
hk is still one of the best games I've played
leaden hedge
they are scenes
west ridge
ok i cant speak
rain cedar
Nothing is really far oob
leaden hedge
you just load another scene
rain cedar
It ain't
west ridge
i found a glitch in the old version that yeeted me high up and i just warped to a dream
nimble lake
vsync is still broken
rain cedar
what
west ridge
was dashing against an elevator as it went up and just went flying
rain cedar
Ok but you're not just gonna randomly go into a dream
My best guess is the camera bugged in the lurien room then you mashed and accidentally hit him with dream nail
west ridge
maybe i kinda freaked when i went flying the game did crash though
i mean when the dreamer died
i think it was 1.2.2.1
rain cedar
Do you mean this glitch? https://gfycat.com/ShimmeringDenseAfricanwilddog
ornate rivet
oh wow this is a lot faster than the version I had
dark wigeon
Yeah it has at v2 so it should be a lot more optimized
fair rampart
fair rampart
dnspy highlighted this
fair rampart
I was just stress testing it by opening a bunch of fsms from various scenes and quickly switching between tabs
dark wigeon
oh I see
I was able to get it by holding ctrl tab eventually
tested this one a few times this better not crash again
also I enabled speed mode so it should be slightly faster at the cost of a little bit more memory
ornate rivet
amazing
fair rampart
it's working well, nice job
dark wigeon
just watch, 3 days later someone is going to silently complain about another exception somewhere else
have fun
unborn badger
nes alive???
ornate rivet
assetbundling during gameplay when
dark wigeon
Soon tm
ornate rivet
hype
safe hamlet
i will be waiting for the pr saleh
steel matrix
does anybody know how to make a custom skin for the Knight? I know I need to edit the sprite sheet(s), which is/are enormous, but I don't know the step-by-step process, so could someone tell me the steps through it all? (It's also possible this could go in modding-discussion, I don't know which one it would be for sure though.)
nimble lake
@steel matrix check the pins, spritepacker and godump
you might want to ask someone from TWP for more help
gilded lotus
the white palace
gilded lotus
same thing
nimble lake
And you dare to call yourself a mod
steel matrix
ok thanks
tawny onyx
@fair rampart I suggest to Add a code udp.Disconnect(); While someone disconnect from server, The Udp still connect and will send udp data to server
fair rampart
and for some reason, the falling seeds don't appear in game
what about it
ah
Not a modder nor do I play HK on PC but I’m here to say you modders are hard workers and make some really neat stuff 
Have a nice day
tawny onyx
just like this
gentle steeple
so, i started carrying a knife after an attempted mugging a few years ago. Since then, my mugging attempts have been a lot more successful.
copper nacelle
very cool but that isn't modding
gentle steeple
wait sh*t i missclicked to modding instead of meme
fair rampart
When was the last reset?
fair rampart
wait sh*t i missclicked to modding instead of meme
that happens way too often
flat forum
"moderated" 
leaden hedge
well yes people who had power looked there
so you couldn't just post literal garbage
just because the moderation was "we're basically a subserver like speedrunning is so people can talk about non-modding topics" doesn't mean it wasn't moderated 
flat forum
remote zealot
Guess I will just stop deleting animal abuse/potential death videos and NSFW memes since it's not moderation 
flat forum
wow is meme that much of a shithole
remote zealot
Yes
flat forum
@remote zealot have you considered
https://discordapp.com/channels/283467363729408000/573068857682558986/718264549731467366
thorn comet
not happening sry
patent zealot
Simo said he was making a PSA
flat forum
:c
thorn comet
yeah, doing some changes to #297468195026239489 over today and tomorrow
channel desc + psa + pinned guidelines etc.
flat forum
also wow Simo actually came to respond to me memeing about removing meme
wow it's seriously that awful
I haven't set foot there in ages
leaden hedge
i mean it was moderated, people would get mad at you for not even putting videos in <> tags, and posting completely unrelated stuff to the topic
floral furnace
first step in it guarantees all 3 types of hepatitis tbh
leaden hedge
it was just if you wanna talk about nerd stuff go for it my dude
still locust
Almost finished
icy moss
this is cute
dire glen
No spells?
fair rampart
a bit stiff on the walking but otherwise very good
remote zealot
Looks great! What's left to do?
brave mauve
Looks amazing
vocal spire
Cool
still locust
Spells, swim, death, dream nail, etc
Most important thing is that we want to add story to it, like what little Hornet should meet in Hallownest
She shouldn't meet the Hornet I suppose)
But I don't know what can I do with the bosses
vocal spire
That would be cool, but it would probably take a lot of time
still locust
Now we can only change the text and Sprites, so maybe just 'add some stories' at this moment
Wish I could program
Yeah, then it will be two thousand years later ahaha
knotty monolith
adding story sounds like a Project. idk how the heck you write around hornet fighting hornet, twice
copper nacelle
hello a programmer btw.
fair rampart
you'd have to cause I'm fucking sick of customknight
dark wigeon
hello
knotty monolith
but skin looks super stylish. love the hud
still locust
There are too many skins we just want to make things different
fair rampart
Its Hollow Knight:Battle Royale with all these skins
limber walrus
@still locust A small Hornet adventure in the early days of the fall of Hallownest would be neat?
still locust
Yeah! there should be little pure vessel and little unbroken vessel with her
And NPCs will talk about her because of her secret royal status
(like writing a novel
vocal spire
What if multiplayer had a battle royal mode?
fair rampart
tfw everybody drops in deepnest for the sick loot
merry vine
I was mad that the game I was playing crashed, but seeing Poppy's smol Hornet made me happy again 👍
nimble lake
yea
poppy, are you going to make hornet public, or will she be a challenge or something?
merry vine
I think they said public last time someone asked
still locust
poppy, are you going to make hornet public, or will she be a challenge or something?
@nimble lake
Yeah it will be public, cause there are already so many challenges
nimble lake
Nice, thank you :D
merry vine
I am very excited for the skin, it looks so good! 😍
fair rampart
I think I see the flipping variables in playmaker that TC described
ornate rivet
oh god
rain cedar
Now make it happen arbitrarily at runtime
loud bobcat
How would I go about creating a custom skin?
I would like to try my hand at making one :]
gilded lotus
loud bobcat
ty
west ridge
Does obs double up as a video editor?
leaden hedge
no
west ridge
ah ok any software you'd suggest?
leaden hedge
what are you trying to do
ffmpeg can do simple things really fast like trim/slice/combine/convert
west ridge
ok just thininking of trim/slice/combine/convert and add text going to give a modding tutorial a shot
upbeat saddle
so uhh how hard would it be to make a translation mod? (Arabic) since its a bit complex, and i would probably need to find a font that fits. im guessing not easy?
leaden hedge
depends on if textmeshpro / rich text supports it
type something you think might not work
oh
apparently it works i don't need to test
as you can see it appears to work for arabic
upbeat saddle
thank you
nimble lake
Hf translating all 57 precepts
unborn flicker
Is there a way to get the MapZone from a scene name or Scene? I tried going down the rabbithole of GameManager.instance.GetCurrentMapZone() in dnspy, but I couldn't find where it actually retrieves the MapZone.
leaden hedge
this.sm.mapZone ?
unborn flicker
yeah, but I don't know how the scenemanager gets the mapzone either
leaden hedge
maybe theres just a SceneManagerSettings somewhere in each scene
unborn flicker
as a gameobject?
leaden hedge
yeah
it appears SceneDefaultSettings is an object
that can just be in scenes
which appears to have a serialized List of settings in it
just looking through the code, could be way off
unborn flicker
yeah, I was mainly looking for an easy way to tell on entering a room whether it was in Fog Canyon
But ActiveSceneChanged is too soon for the mapzone in GameManager to be updated
yeah, that seems like the way to go
thanks
leaden hedge
lol does this code actually work Platform.Current.SetSocialPresence("EXPLORING_" + this.sm.mapZone.ToString(), true);
unborn flicker
I don't see anything that overrides SetSocialPresence
or would that even be visible
leaden hedge
i think that stuff is hidden
its like a seperate dll thing i think
nah rich presence works a different way
pretty sure i have a rich presence mod already
i do but its fucking hiveknight patch lmao
but it must be xbox / ps4 code ig
safe hamlet
yea that can't be discord, vanilla doesn't have the discordrpc sdk
marble warren
I new here
Can you tell me how to make your own hollow knight mod
or did I miss something
fair rampart
@marble warren dive through the pins
fair rampart
top right
fair sparrow
@marble warren
unborn flicker
@copper nacelle Why does calling LoadGlobalSettings() inside GetPreloadNames break the api?
copper nacelle
wdym
unborn flicker
that's the last line of the log. None of my mods loaded
unborn flicker
initialize comes after that though, because it already has the preload dictionary, right?
copper nacelle
gg
unborn flicker
Ok, fast preloads were actually easy
I just had a billion uses of instance in there
copper nacelle
fair rampart
I dabbled with conditional preloading with my custom trial mod so that you wouldn't need to preload every enemy in the game and I have no idea how it works
I did also run into the issue of none of my mods loading
unborn flicker
Yeah, if the preloader has an exception nothing gets loaded
But in the end I didn't need to call LoadGlobalSettings or anything
Just had to make sure I was pulling them from the right place
unborn flicker
Is there an easy way to determine which spell hits an object? When I tested it earlier, it seemed like they all have the same collider tag of "Hero Spell"
I was able to make dive platforms breakable with wraiths though, by doing some fsm shenanigans with Spell Control
vocal spire
cool
jade willow
is there a hook I can access with "On" for whenever a player checks any quick map, and also a specific one for when the player returns to gameplay from the quick map, I found "GameMap.CloseQuickMap" but that triggers both when the quick map is closed and when the full map is closed
checking with dnspy but it's a bit confusing to go through
rain cedar
Nah that's probably gonna be fsm only
jade willow
ah I see okay
On.GameMap.WorldMap does trigger when a map is zoomed in
I'm unsure of how to access fsm for it
rain cedar
FSM viewer is pinned
jade willow
I know fsm viewer, I used it a bit I just don't know how I'll use that information in my mod
to just figure out how the states work and how they transition I just don't know what I'm trying to access
ornate rivet
you get the fsm with correctGO.LocateMyFSM("fsm name")
Then, using FSMViewer, you find the state that does what you seek. You can add to the state so that it runs your code everytime the state is reached
jade willow
Oh nice :D
jade willow
thanks
west ridge
correctGO.LocateMyFSM("fsm name") does this mean you can edit the fsm using c#?
ornate rivet
yes
blissful burrow
Is there a BeginSceneTransition like hook that runs after the screen is already black?
blissful burrow
ty
rain cedar
show code
That should work I think
The hook might be broken
Ok I see the problem
It's gonna die if you return null, even if that's the proper value
This is the only pd get/set hook that's nullable and it's just copy/paste of the code from the primitive ones
You can probably convince 56 to fix it
If not, give it a month and I might get around to it
marsh mist
Hey, I'm considering building a mod for hollow knight but I haven't the least idea where to start. Are there resources or guides I can reference? Thanks!
nimble lake
marsh mist
Thank you!
nimble lake
np
marsh mist
Ok so I read through the Hollow knight api guide but I'm still really confused about where to start. I found some example mods but those also confuse me? I guess I don't know as much about programming as I thought. Are there any other resources I can use? How did you guys start learning this stuff?
floral furnace
check hellmod
good for reference of how it does the way it really does do its thing
marsh mist
Hellmod?
floral furnace
marsh mist
I'll check it out, thanks
tawny onyx
i start with DebugMod🤔
safe hamlet
cool story
coarse lintel
I'm just waiting until we figure out how to add rooms at this point tbh. Eventually though...
coarse lintel
But imagine, custom rooms 
coarse lintel
have people been working on them, I never see them mentioned
coarse lintel
oml I feel like a brainyot concidrering I watched the imported cuphead boss just a few minutes ago heh
copper nacelle
and saleh has done some stuff i think
coarse lintel
alright, thanks!
jade willow
how do I get the right fsm to get its states. I found the two following fsms in the fsm viewer "Inventory-Inventory Control" and "Inv-UI Inventory" but I'm not exactly sure how to get that in code, I know I have to use LocateFSM with its "string" name but I can't seem to get the "correct gameobject" to check from or the name of the fsm properly
Oh just figured it out, the dash (-) indicates the distinction between the gameObject and the fsm
so now I found the bool I can check to see when the map is opened by checking the bool for "Map Shortcut", but I'm not sure how to hook an event to its state
or rather the event named "Map Shortcut", but I'm really not sure how to hook it
it must be different than Modhook or On
copper nacelle
You can insert an action which calls a method
jade willow
hmm is there an example of how to set-up actions I could access somewhere?
floral furnace
yourFSM.InsertAction("State Name Here", new CallMethod
{
behaviour = GameManager.instance.GetComponent<YourMonobehaviour>(),
methodName = "MethodIWannaCall",
parameters = new FsmVar[0],
everyFrame = false
}
, 0);
0 index where you wanna insert the action, can be anything, just dont go off bounds ofc
something like that
floral furnace
yeah it means it will call your MethodIWannaCall and you can do your stuff once the FSM enters that state
so in this case, this FSM is the players SpellControl, and lets say, im spawning an aspid whenever the player heals or wtv
from there
the first parameter would be "Focus Start"
methodName = "SpawnAspidMethod"
then the number on the end (which is the 3rd parameter actually)
will allow you where to specifically insert your CallMethod, in this case setting it to "1" would put it inbetween action SetFloatValue and SetBoolValue
jade willow
that is very nice!
thank you so much this is super useful, I'll give it a shot tomorrow when I'm not sleep deprived, see ya :D
floral furnace
hmm k
jade willow
what would be my monobehaviour?
floral furnace
hmm let me check
jade willow
thank you
floral furnace
basically the existing monobehaviour/component instance of wtv is holding your method
from what i understand at least
jade willow
ah so in that case it would be the mod class it's on
essentially "this"?
but if it would happen to be calling a method in another class somewhere I could link it this way (unless I'm misunderstanding)
floral furnace
probably im not sure?
what i do is i already have a MonobehaviourA added as a component to the GameManager.instance at the very start
then since its a singleton anyway i just GetComponent<MonobeheaviourA>
probably a shit way of doing but someone who knows it more indepth can probably confirm your question
jade willow
alright I'll try to get to understanding this in more depth tomorrow, thank you again
fair rampart
Saleh did you ever get an issue with assetbundles where clicking Build didn't do anything?
even if the bundle has a different name?
I'm trying to build for different platforms with the same assets
ornate rivet
that works for me
does it give any errors?
try removing something and putting it back in then assetbundling
fair rampart
it just shows the loading cursor for 0.1 seconds and then nothing
fair rampart
recreated my scene in a new project and it still doesn't work
builds to Standalone Windows just fine though
leaden hedge
shaders
code shouldn't be
code isn't even included in assetbundles either
as its a security risk or something
fair rampart
alright, the reason was I was missing mac and linux build support for 2017.4.10f so I reinstalled that version of unity
fair rampart
@ornate rivet do fennel and propellerknight still use bundles in StreamingAssets?
fair rampart
are the github repos updated?
fair rampart
ok, I'm getting an outofmemory exception when loading fennel, so I want to make loading assetbundles from stream conditional
for that project
ornate rivet
ok
fair rampart
oh wait you already did that
ornate rivet
yea
I just dont know the terminology
Anyone feel like making a new room for the indie crossover boss statues?
If no one wants to, I think I'll remove the wall on the left side of the bench instead of making a new scene
unborn flicker
If you always preload the same objects, would it be worth making an assetbundle for them? Would that reduce load times?
leaden hedge
well you'd only load them instead of the scene so it'd make the game load faster
ornate rivet
if only we could assetbundle hk gameobjects
unborn flicker
oh is it not possible to do that then?
maybe I misunderstand, since I've never used that
ornate rivet
not yet at least
leaden hedge
you could, but you'd have to remake them in unity
ornate rivet
but imagine being able to assetbundle at runtime
unborn flicker
I have some ideas to make a full-scale game mod this summer
but it's already at 30s preloads with just a handful of objects
it's going to be 5 minutes by the time I'm done
leaden hedge
well i'd probably remake stuff if you're actually doing effort
the only reason i'd preload is to get fsms
and fsms suck anyway
unborn flicker
hmmm, yeah I'll look into remaking stuff once I'm farther along maybe
leaden hedge
you can also load assetbundles async
unborn flicker
Yeah, I really should rebuild for moving enemies around, I think
a good chunk of my load time is probably just to get the ceiling Mawlurk
leaden hedge
enemies are definitely worth remaking
unborn flicker
fortunately, you can get a lot of important objects just out of King's Pass
fair rampart
yeah I have no idea why cagney existing makes fennel and propk spawn to the left of the arena
ornate rivet
I'll try to fix it today
fair rampart
I appreciate it
stable light
@fair rampart have you managed to look into the skin mod for 1221?
fair rampart
I'm learning how to downpatch rn so I can get 1221
stable light
oh i see i am so srry for bothering you, if i could do it myself i would have done it
fair rampart
I'm following that
west ridge
ah
there is an easier way as well
but like you gotta make sure you backup your data
i can't rember how though sorry
stable light
i think i used that too its not that bad as it looked at first, but sorry to make you go through this
vocal spire
Once i had down patched to 1.2.2.1 and a week later the folder I put it in vanished
stable light
sounds like me in real life
vocal spire
then I found the folder, and everything inside it was deleted except for hollowknight.exe
this has given me an idea for an boss mod
fair rampart
try this
this one requires you have Knight, Sprint, VoidSpells, Wraiths, and VS.png
stable light
having a go at it now
mods seems to work but the skin has not loaded this might be my fault
i have setup a folder named CustomKnight in the mods folder and in it i have tried two things
i had the original folder "Default" with all the images in there and i added another folder with the skin i want, that didnt change it
then i also tried adding all of the ones in pink to the default folder but that dindnt change the skin either, am i doing somethign wrong?
fair rampart
this is the old customknight that has you put the pngs directly within the customknight folder
copper nacelle
I have a 1221 version already if you want it
stable light
oh really i would really appreciate that
now i feel v bad for making @fair rampart go through all that
srry 🙏
where can i download it 56?
copper nacelle
lemme get out of bed I didn't put it anywhere
idk why it became .com
just rename it
stable light
hahah i can tell
copper nacelle
they changed the atlas positions
stable light
so which ones can i use
stable light
My favourite one is the bow but i think that is new?
Like i dont mind using the one that jgno made but rn it isnt working for me
I quite like the idea to use any new current skins but that is up to what jgno wants to, or I could learn how to code these things
nimble lake
oh .com
download your skins right from the game
store them on some website
the next step
rain cedar
You thinking of doing some more work on it?
summer tapir
hmm, I do like multiworld 
I always have trouble understanding code from other people but starting from scratch sounds also like a pain
rain cedar
Feel free to ask questions
summer tapir
gonna study the code a bit 
summer tapir
its based on rando 2 right?
copper nacelle
yes
summer tapir
so, I guess step one would be updating it to the rando 3 logic. Do I understand it right that the item.xml is basically the logic which determines what spots can be reached with that abilities?
rain cedar
Yes
jade willow
yourFSM.InsertAction("State Name Here", new CallMethod { behaviour = GameManager.instance.GetComponent<YourMonobehaviour>(), methodName = "MethodIWannaCall", parameters = new FsmVar[0], everyFrame = false } , 0); 0 index where you wanna insert the action, can be anything, just dont go off bounds ofc
I was trying to make that work, but I'm getting some errors and confusions,
- PlayMakerFSM does not contain a definition of InsertAction, so I'm guessing I need to use something else than a PlayMakerFSM.
- new "callmethod" is ambiguous
- I'm thinking about using behavior = this but I'm not sure if that would work
- if I don't need parameters should I do parameters = null;?
implicitely changed callMethod to "new HutongGames.PlayMaker.Actions.CallMethod" I guess that's the right one
and that's how I made a reference to the FSM I'm trying to add a method to
PlayMakerFSM InvControlFSM = GameObject.Find("Inventory").LocateMyFSM("Inventory Control");
rain cedar
InsertAction is an extension method
Ambiguous just means you have to be explicit about the namespace
I think the only option for playmaker extensions other than copy/pasting from another mod is still modcommon
Sadly
There's some non-extension helper methods in the api though
jade willow
what would be the other options that would be non-extension helper methods
I need to make my UI fade and vanish based on the states in which the inventory menu is
rain cedar
Alright I was mistaken there doesn't seem to be any fsm helper methods in the api
There probably should be
For now just ref ModCommon and use this I guess https://github.com/Kerr1291/ModCommon/blob/master/ModCommon/Util/FsmUtil.cs
jade willow
so that's a class to add, right
rain cedar
You could do that yeah, it's MIT licensed
It's not what most people do but it's what I do when I want stuff from ModCommon
jade willow
Is ModCommon something I could add to gain access to those helpful methods?
oh it's just a using ModCommon;
rain cedar
So you already have it, then
rain cedar
Get the dll from the mod installer and reference that
jade willow
Oh that's where it is!
okay I was sorta lost
okay now I have it :D
Ah insert method instead of insert action seems to do the trick
wow it just works :D
steel matrix
does anybody know what application I should be using to open HollowKnight.SpritePacker with? I've been trying to use Microsoft Visual Studio to open it, but there's an error message that says the following: "The project file could not be loaded. Could not find a part of the path" and then some various code
vocal spire
isn't it just an application?
I just downloaded it and I didn't get any visual studio files
steel matrix
was downloading the ZIP file not the way to do it
I have no clue how to get to the part where I edit the sprites
vocal spire
did you click on releases?
vocal spire
yeah
steel matrix
I don't see any button like that
vocal spire
vocal spire
can you take a screenshot of your screen?
vocal spire
ok
steel matrix
steel matrix
ok so I am just super blind
Ohhhh
I see it
so then I download SpritePacker1.3.3.zip?
steel matrix
alright cool, thanks
fair rampart
well now I figured out to specify both tcp and udp for port forwarding since both isn't set by default
if anyone would like to test, the ip is jngo.crabdance.com
patent zealot
Cant test but curious , what updates have you made?
vocal spire
awesome, Ill get on in a seccond
fair rampart
nothing significant, just checking that it still works as well as it did since last I tested
patent zealot
Ah cool
vocal spire
I was going to join quickly, but I opened the installer and accidentally clicked update indie mod crossover, and now it is taking forever to download
now it is asking me again if I want to update indie crossover
this is strange, but I don't care
and I forgot to join with custom knight
fair rampart
try joining again
fair rampart
are you in dirtmouth?
fair rampart
there's an exception in my log that's probably causing that
fair rampart
sure
vocal spire
ok
fair rampart
if it doesn't work this next time I'll call it off for today and try to fix it
fair rampart
nice, the dns works sometimes
do we have the infected knight and christmas knight skins on?
fair rampart
great
vocal spire
may I take a recording of multiplayer?
fair rampart
go ahead
vocal spire
ok
fair rampart
you want to do something for the recording?
vocal spire
mabe, I need to do something else really soon so something quick
fair rampart
PoP?
dim bluff
oh, I got a question for you guys: whenever I tried to download the hollow knight modinstaller I will always get a warning sign from my antivirus is there another way to download the app?
languid goblet
do you need any sort of knowledge about modding to help test?
fair rampart
nope
vocal spire
gtg
fair rampart
bye
languid goblet
i might be able to join a few minutes if you're not done testing already
fair rampart
alright, cool
languid goblet
can i have other mods installed at the same time or not?
fair rampart
I've only tested it with customknight, debug, and QoL
languid goblet
you still testing? i can join now
fair rampart
ok, is the mod installed?
languid goblet
yeah i just put it in the mods folder
hmm for some reason it's not loading the mods
fair rampart
send your modlog
languid goblet
no like the bar won't even show up
oh wait i think modding api wasn't installed
for some reason
works now
so how do i join the server?
fair rampart
pause the game and you should see some inputs in the top right
fair rampart
change 127.0.0.1 to jngo.crabdance.com
and your username to whatever
then click Connect
fair rampart
server just crashed
languid goblet
oh rip
fair rampart
restart your game and try again
fair rampart
we fight our own enemies
languid goblet
what is it?
fair rampart
we could race a pantheon, if you have a save in godhome
languid goblet
yeah i do
fair rampart
alright, let's test switching saves then
languid goblet
p1?
fair rampart
sure
languid goblet
ite swtiched to godseeker mode
fair rampart
are you in front of the p1 door?
languid goblet
yeah
fair rampart
hmm
languid goblet
wait maybe it doesn't work if we're on different modes
i'll try switching back to main
fair rampart
wanna start now?
languid goblet
i don't see you
fair rampart
still don't see me?
fair rampart
nice
fair rampart
yes
languid goblet
cool
fair rampart
you want it on for the pantheon?
languid goblet
nah
fair rampart
alright let's start now
languid goblet
no potential sabotage
got it
count of 3?
oh welp you joined
could you see me during the pantheon?
or were you that far ahead
fair rampart
I saw you from vengefly king to soul warrior
languid goblet
hmm i didn't see you
fair rampart
and you can't see me now in front of you?
fair rampart
can you shade soul?
languid goblet
don't have soul, hold on
fair rampart
np, thanks for helping out
I need to get more people to join and stress test so I'll probably hold a session earlier tomorrow
languid goblet
about when?
fair rampart
maybe 3 pm est
coarse lintel
with GODump, how do you choose which assets are extracted from the game? Do you do edit the GODump.GlobalSettings file?
west ridge
Dammit I missed testing it
Sorry o.7.0.7 I'm not sure
You can make a back up and test it though
vocal spire
May I join multiplayer later today?
yes, we were testing the mod
If you use it, you should probably get custom knight
vocal spire
finally I changed my picture to something good
vocal spire
Here is the recording of multiplayer https://youtu.be/AJ8cuUlHhiw
patent zealot
do the skins work still after leaveing and reentering the rooms
vocal spire
yes
patent zealot
damn nice, great job on doing that jngo
ornate rivet
turn on comments smh
vocal spire
Now you can comment
west ridge
Please may I join hollow knight multiplayer testing
west ridge
I have client not host though when is host running and how do I join?
vocal spire
Pause hollow knight
west ridge
the ip is jngo.crabdance.com
languid goblet
hey so say you have some skin no one else has
will other people be able to see that skin
west ridge
yes
vocal spire
Yes
languid goblet
woah
vocal spire
So use custom knight
languid goblet
okay time to actually start working on my personal customknight
languid goblet
will i be able to see it even if i don't have it
ornate rivet
RedFrog, was the lag in the video because of the mod or computer?
vocal spire
Put it on before you click connect
I think both
Who is going to get on for the multiplayer thing later?
west ridge
I can do whenever
vocal spire
Is the server on right now?
west ridge
I don't know I doubt it
west ridge
Customknight and client only?
vocal spire
You can use debug or wok if you want
west ridge
Also 1.4.3.2?
slow epoch
where is this mod (i want)
west ridge
Wok?
vocal spire
Yes
west ridge
What's that
vocal spire
There is the multiplayer
I don’t think the server is on right now because when I try to connect, I instantly connect
west ridge
That sucks
If I make my mods toggleable in game can I just disable them before joining?
west ridge
Understandable I might make a batch script for toggling "multiplayer mode"
west ridge
warning multiplayer client couldn't find guicontroller
vocal spire
In modlog?
I think it’s fine unless when you pause nothing shows up in the top right corner
vocal spire
Leave the default numbers except for the top box
vocal spire
In the top box type jngo.crabdance.com and in the bottom type your username. The middle can stay
slow epoch
is a server open
west ridge
I appear to be in
west ridge
I did
vocal spire
Are you in dirtmouth
west ridge
I have no abilities somehow
vocal spire
I have mine
west ridge
I am in kingdoms edge
slow epoch
i clicked connect and nothing happened
west ridge
I'm in second hornet fight area
slow epoch
dirtmouth
vocal spire
Did you type in the correct stuff in the pause menu?
west ridge
I'm making a new save
slow epoch
yep
west ridge
Server is down no data is being sent and my old save is corrupt
vocal spire
K
west ridge
I have a backup but it's something to note
vocal spire
Let’s all get debug and a save in dirtmouth for later
west ridge
vocal spire
Ok
west ridge
Getting to Dirtmouth
vocal spire
k
west ridge
What is est
vocal spire
I think its eastern time
fair rampart
in like 3 hours
west ridge
Thank ee
vocal spire
so for me it will be 2
west ridge
I'm bst so if I'm correct it'll be 19:00 gmt
vocal spire
Idk I looked it up and I think its 20:00
west ridge
20:00 bst is 19:00 gmt I think
west ridge
Ì have no idea imstupid with time
vocal spire
I looked it up and you are right
west ridge
Neat and thank you
vocal spire
np, see you
west ridge
Shall I send you the save?
vocal spire
I have one
slow epoch
im at dirtmouth i have no idea if it works
vocal spire
It doesn't work yet
slow epoch
bummer
vocal spire
what time zone are you in
west ridge
Find out in approximately 3 hours 10 minites
slow epoch
well for me its 9 o clock in the morning
vocal spire
it's 11 for me
vocal spire
yeah, I set an alarm 5 mins early
vocal spire
?
west ridge
Is abilities knight dependent but what is happening in the world, world dependent and what about masks and orbs?
vocal spire
every player is seperate
they have thier own abilities
and their own world
the other people are like ghosts
While I wait I will work on finishing a boss
west ridge
Fair
slow epoch
do you need other peoples exact mod loadouts for it to work
slow epoch
cool and custom knight?
west ridge
I suggest custom knight and debug if you use mods
vocal spire
But you should probably use custom knight and debug and Mabe qol
vocal spire
It used to be required
west ridge
What is compatible?
west ridge
Fair
vocal spire
It would be cool for lightbringer support though
west ridge
And mothcloak
vocal spire
Yeah