ModHooks.Instance.AfterAttackHook += OnAfterAttack;```#archived-modding-development
jade willow
rain cedar
Alright yeah just checked it isn't the wrong order
jade willow
omg
spare rover
Okay I figured it out
spare rover
So it seems that for some reason the example had the nail damage = to temp, even before setting it any value. So it was setting it to 0
nimble lake
i can't seem to be able to compile multiplayer client
jade willow
basically I would need to never miss an enemy for the behaviour to work as intended, but by setting it earlier it might work since it was set
critical hit still does not work
The mod does mention
"PlayerData.instance.nailDamage = (int)Math.Round(_tempNailDamage * GlobalSettings.CritMultiplier)"
GlobalSettings
but my CritMultiplayer is instead in its own GlobalModSettings which extends IModSettings
would that be an issue or is this the correct implementation of a mod setting?
rain cedar
Yeah that should be fine
The structure of that example mod is just bad is all
The "AfterAttack" is still before the nail actually hits
jade willow
ah I see, would you have a nice dummy mod to use as reference to get to learn the proper structure to use?
rain cedar
It's just after all the logic
Here's the simplest mod I have in my code folder
public class InvincibilityMod : Mod, ITogglableMod
{
public override void Initialize()
{
ModHooks.Instance.HeroUpdateHook += MakeInvincible;
}
private void MakeInvincible()
{
if (PlayerData.instance != null)
{
PlayerData.instance.isInvincible = true;
}
}
public void Unload()
{
ModHooks.Instance.HeroUpdateHook -= MakeInvincible;
if (PlayerData.instance != null)
{
PlayerData.instance.isInvincible = false;
}
}
}
Probably too simple
jade willow
so the damage would never be critical since I am setting the damage value back to its tempValue before the damage actually occurred, right?
rain cedar
Yeah
jade willow
What would be the proper way to implement this example mod then?
rain cedar
Probably best to remove the AfterAttack hook and recalculate proper nail damage every time in the other hook
jade willow
Ah makes sense
rain cedar
Then in the before save hook you can restore nail damage
So increased damage doesn't end up staying after uninstalling
fair rampart
just realized that the newest customknight creates a shield.png in your streaming assets folder 
jade willow
sounds good for sanity, I feel like I implemented it completely wrong, but here's what I did
{
PlayerData.instance.nailDamage = _tempNailDamage;
PlayMakerFSM.BroadcastEvent("UPDATE NAIL DAMAGE");
LogDebug("Attacking");
if (_hitCounter >= GlobalSettings.CritCounter){
Settings.TotalCrits++; // For fun, lets track the total number of crits we have done so far this game.
LogDebug("Critical hit!");
LogDebug("Set _tempNailDamage to " + _tempNailDamage);
PlayerData.instance.nailDamage = (int)Math.Round(_tempNailDamage * GlobalSettings.CritMultiplier); //Increase Nail Damage by the crit multiplier then round to the nearest int.
PlayMakerFSM.BroadcastEvent("UPDATE NAIL DAMAGE");
_hitCounter = 0;// reset our hit counter
return;
}
_hitCounter++; //Increase the hit counter
}```Now my main fear is that if the damage value changes (i.e.: player increases his nail damage at the blacksmith) my tempNailDamage will no longer be relevant
just realize my second-to-last line doesn't do anything
it worked :D
rain cedar
Yeah instead of _tempNailDamage you should use
5 + PlayerData.instance.nailUpgrades * 4```
copper nacelle
could modify the nailslash component
rain cedar
More effort
copper nacelle
true
jade willow
Now it just does a sort of weird backward effect when you look at the numbers through debug where it sets my damage value to the double of its base value after critical hit has occurred and is then set back to its default on the next attack
is there a hook to check when damage has been dealt?
jade willow
Oh and also this also counts any attack towards the crit so hitting nothing also increases my hit counter so I should probably use the SlashHitHook instead
but that also counts decoration elements
so I'd need to check what was hit?
rain cedar
You could try that way yeah
jade willow
now to figure out how to return what was hit to only increment my value when an enemy is hit. I guess I'd need to know more about how the game was structured now
rain cedar
It's generally ok to assume anything with a HealthManager component is an enemy
And stuff without it isn't
There's exceptions but not a ton
There's also an enemies layer but I have no idea how useful checking that is
vocal spire
Does anyone have or know a way to get the Hive knight spritesheet?
unborn badger
#art-discussion pins
vocal spire
ok
copper nacelle
seanprcore
jade willow
How would I make sure that I'm hitting something that has a HealthManager component?
floral furnace
gameObjectOfTheShitIHit.GetComponent<HealthManager>() != null
jade willow
Oh that's probably what's contained in HitInst
ah no it's a HitInstance, but there's probably a way to get there from that
floral furnace
HitInstance is the stuff it sends to the HealthManager's Hit() method to do damage
youre gonna need to get the component of the actual enemy you hit
jade willow
that makes sense when I read it but then I look at the code and I have no clue where to look for that
floral furnace
can i ask what youre trying to do again
jade willow
I was trying to make the default example3 script work
just realized I was trying to do that in the wrong function
okay its slowly starting to make sense :D Thanks for all the help
cursive crane
am I the only one who spies on this channel without knowing anything about coding
vocal spire
I used to
floral furnace
Start coding, be one of us, one of us, one of us 🙂
drifting leaf
I started learning python but the stuff you all are doing here seems so far away...
floral furnace
Once youre decent with a language, learning others is way way faster
cursive crane
I tried watching a c++ 9 hour long tutorial but just got bored
vocal spire
Now we come to my problem, I did not learn a single coding language before I started coding anything
floral furnace
Watching without applying isnt gonna get you far imo
cursive crane
I was following along but it was just eehhh
floral furnace
Fair enough yeah
fair rampart
alright so it takes like 10 seconds to send all the sprite data for the main sprite sheet
and changing the texture for the local player changes your own texture as well
at least now I know how to steal skins
vocal spire
yay
Could someone help me decide which of these I should use for my hive knight mod?
patent zealot
First
vocal spire
ok
patent zealot
It keeps the hive knight but in a new suit of armour theme
vocal spire
that makes it easier because I already made the spritesheet for that
drifting leaf
Hive Sans
drifting leaf
I hope no one makes that
vocal spire
me too
drifting leaf
But if they do I want to hear about it
vocal spire
same
leaden hedge
you should probably make it more in line with other joni/lifeblood items
drifting leaf
Tbh it almost feels like a question you'd ask #art-discussion about.
fair rampart
@fair rampart what if you compress it ? 12mb seems like a lot for a texture
fair rampart
every method I've tried to implement skins has resulted in either neither player's skin changing, or both players' skins changing at once
leaden hedge
you need to make a new material
and apply it to the other players sprites
materials share textures
fair rampart
when I tried that it didn't change the other player's sprite
var mat = new Material(Shader.Find("Sprites/Default-ColorFlash"));
mat.mainTexture = knightTex;
Players[client].gameObject.GetComponent<tk2dSpriteAnimator>().GetClipByName("Idle").frames[0].spriteCollection.spriteDefinitions[0].material = mat;```
flat forum
@vocal spire last one best imo
kindred grove
I don even know how do you change sprites @vocal spire
vocal spire
I might use all of them and allow them to be swapped in the global saves
fair rampart
@jolly oriole Are you sure? The knight's go hierarchy indicates that it only has a tk2dSprite and tk2dSpriteAnimator
I can only seem to change both players' textures or neither
setting mainTexture on the spriteDefinition's material obviously changes both textures but setting the material itself doesn't appear to do anything
jade willow
Hello everyone, I would like to know if the AfterAttackHook occurs before or after the damage has been done to the enemy (so far it seems like my code's logic is working but the damage is never applied)
I think it also occurs after the SlashHitHook but I may be wrong...
ah... I think that's what's happening
So in order it's definitely something like
- SlashHitHook
- AfterAttackHook
- Actual Damage dealt
- HitInstance
does that make sense?
huh so that's odd now instead of changing the nail damage it looks like I am changing the "flat" next to it, but not the actual damage output somehow
oh I just realized
for some reason whenever I do end up increasing my damage, the HitInstance does not occur
oh no, it's not that it does not occur, it's just that the damage is reset before it could be applied at all?
solemn rivet
jade willow
Haven't looked into dnspy yet, I'll have to give that a go
Started from using the ExampleMod3 from the github stuff to get started, realized I wanted the critical effect to only be counted when the player hits an enemy (so this way you can't hit nothing 3 times and deal critical damage on the next attack)
The whole idea is to have the critical hit occur every 4 hits so I used the SlashHitHook and checked its "otherCollider" param to check if what I'm hitting contains a "HealthManager"
so far so good, this part of the code only runs when I hit an enemy
But then what occurs is that by reading my bit of code and checking my log file, on the first 3 hits, the damage dealt is the base damage, on the 4th hit I change the damage to be the double from that (so 5 -> 10) on the next SlashHit I stored a variable that detects that the last hit was critical which returns the damage to its base value (did this to make sure I wouldn't accidentally set the damage before the damage could be dealt)
but the hitInstance returns that I dealt 5 damage instead of 10
so my take is that changing the damage value in SlashHit might be too late to change the damage value?
or I may be doing something wrong
jade willow
Okay with a little break I think I figured out that SlashHit is not the hook I want to use to change the damage
But it does give me what I need to increment the amount of hits
So I'd need to pair it with another hook to set up the damage and only update it after/before the damage has a chance to be applied
fair rampart
hmm
jade willow
what's up with that?
fair rampart
see if you can spot the cursed
fair rampart
no
patent zealot
O
patent zealot
alright
vocal spire
I made a mod for hive knight, but whenever I quit to the main menu, the hollow knight logo appears in the middle of the screen and I can't do anything
can I have some help?
copper nacelle
null reference exception
perhaps on a call using game manager
check the output log
or get qol and check modlog
vocal spire
ok
vocal spire
Looks good
gilded lotus
oh yeah, i had envisioned clockwise
gilded lotus
damn that's evil, i love it
https://puu.sh/FKY6o/bf6773871b.png you could put a double jump thing here
so casuals can go get the double jump but speed runners will just pogo the inside route
that looks like enough room honestly
saw hitboxes are a bit wack
just based off of looks anyway, cause i can do this
ill test it if you want
unborn badger
remote zealot
unborn badger
can't you use like mega
gilded lotus
unborn badger
you could do that too
spare rover
Jesus I just got ptsd looking at those saw blades...I can't wait!
spare rover
Oh I mistook the Hornet web for a blade, my bad
remote zealot
It looks painful already
gilded lotus
ii just want a harder pop tbh
gilded lotus
idk what you mean btw, would have to see it
nimble lake
i used to spedran in the past.
gilded lotus
oh those dont really have a name
fair rampart
this is how long it takes to send fragments of a 14 MB texture over a network 
patent zealot
Did both sides have the same skin
fair rampart
no, only on the player who joined
the recorded side doesn't even have customknight installed
gilded lotus
you could make it an up and down motion saw if you want it to be easier
patent zealot
Ah ok
fair rampart
I should cache the byte array of the texture in like StreamingAssets so it doesn't take that long to load every time a player is spawned
patent zealot
Gl
vocal spire
Hive Knight mod is here!
I think I will update it with one last feature tomorrow because I am tired
Anyway the battle starts with hive knight having much more health, and as you progress, he summons some minions
gilded lotus
remote zealot
You didn't lie about the "more health" part haha
gilded lotus
yeah 5k hp is a doozy
solemn basin
It was 5k? I knew it felt like a lot but didn't know it was that high.
vocal spire
I will it tomorrow with a couple other changes
solemn basin
All good, sleep well then!
gilded lotus
makes for some pretty fun moments tho
solemn basin
Weird, mine didn't have the spikes/bees until the very end.
remote zealot
I didn't get any spike balls or bees either
gilded lotus
im on ascended
remote zealot
Oh I see
solemn basin
The minions are definitely a good touch to make it more chaotic.
I suggested lower health, have the spikes/bee vomit up from the get-go, make him a bit faster, and shorten/remove the stagger. Maybe make one of those bee minions immortal (or a high enough health to effectively be immortal) to make it more interesting. But the concept itself is good.
leaden hedge
it could be cool to incorporate lifeblood into the fight
like you kill minions to get lifeblood
that you need to tank forced hits
solemn basin
That's a neat idea.
leaden hedge
gimmicks are good when i invent them
flat forum
oh heck
lapis stratus
@unborn flicker Does the Rando 3 mod do something that affects NewGameHook? I can't seem to get a method set up with it to fire off when I have Rando active
copper nacelle
Maybe the randomized start location
patent zealot
I gotta do that radiant, looks un
unborn flicker
Yeah, it starts in godmaster mode instead of normal mode
fair rampart
I wonder if since there's an EnemyHitEffectsInfected that there's gonna be an EnemyHitEffectsCursed in SS
floral furnace
or they get lazy and leave that stuff again
fair rampart
I hope more than 256 players aren't gonna be on the server at once cause I changed the player ids from an int to a byte to maximize fragment size
up from 4064 B to 4093 B of texture data
median halo
It happens sometime when you disconnect then reconnect quickly
fair rampart
@fair rampart the server can cheat and shard the player IDs by scene, and you don't want more than 256 players by scene anyway
@nimble lake a bug on my server where disconnects are not handled correctly
nimble lake
i see
lapis stratus
Gotcha. So, is there a straightforward way to make sure an event I want to tie to NewGameHook fires whether Rando 3 is also active or not then? If not, I'm sure I can come up with something, just want to check before I really start messing with things
unborn flicker
NewGameHook probably isn't a good idea unless you want to modify the start of the game, imo. It's probably best to use a combination of ModSettings (for save-specific data), a scene change hook (to reset variables when the main menu is loaded), and player data hooks (if you actually want to change save data)
It all depends though
lapis stratus
Okay, so, better to have a scene change hook that checks when we are coming from the main menu, then just read/save mod settings to the user to tell if it's been run before or not (to determine if it's a new game or not)?
jade willow
What would be the most efficient way to increment a value every time an enemy is hit. I tried using the SlashHitHook and using its otherCollider param to make sure I was hitting an object that contained a HealthManager component, but now I'm realizing that by hitting a single enemy I am actually returned that it detected its collision to have a health manager multiple times per hits (one hit on a tiktik gave me like 6 returns through the if statement to check if it contained a health manager)
Any better way to do this?
unborn flicker
A check for leaving the menu is a bit harder than a check for arriving at the menu, I believe
I more meant that you can have a method for resetting local/static variables when ever someone quits out
jade willow
if (otherCollider.GetComponent<HealthManager>() != null) {
//This is an enemy!
_hitCounter++;
Log("You've hit an enemy");```But for something like whether elderbug has given maps, you'd want that to be a save setting, so the dialogue isn't triggered again if the game is closed and reopened
You could also just check directly against PlayerData for that, to see if maps were already obtained
copper nacelle
wait do godhome saves not call an instance of newgamehook?
cause i should add that anyways
anyways if it's for elderbug maps homothety is right - savesettings are the way to go for that
lapis stratus
I should be able to work something out with that. This isn't just for the maps, but also for other things I'm working on which require me to do certain actions on a New Game, but I think it should be fine
I can check if it's any new Godseeker or just with Rando. Moment
copper nacelle
ok i'll probably pr that at some point
lapis stratus
Yeah, just ran a test and Godseeker does not call my NewGameHook regardless of if Rando is installed or not
copper nacelle
OnNewGame is raised from LoadFirstScene and OnWillActivateFirstLevel
GameManager::LoadFirstScene is called from CinematicPlayer::FinishVideo
so after the cutscenes
unborn flicker
Yeah godmaster is convenient for rando because it just loads a premade save
so you can completely rewrite the save to be whatever you want
instead of having to load into the cutscenes
leaden hedge
56 do you have the grimm lantern lying about
copper nacelle
wdym
lavish chasm
Would it be possible for me to set up a server for the multiplayer mod just on my local network?
lapis stratus
Awesome, that settings suggestion fixed the issue I was having in another mod as well. I will have to keep that in mind for the future
lavish chasm
Alright lol
jade willow
Would there be a reason why
if (otherCollider.GetComponent<HealthManager>() != null) {```
would not go through when hitting an enemy?wouldn't the healthmanager component be on the gameObject ?
jade willow
I think I figured it out, it's because I'm trying to find a way for it to only increment my value once if it finds an opponent and I had a bool that was set to prevent the code to get into that loop if it had already went into it, but I ordered things oddly, if I get it right, it is possible that it would return multiple instances of a HealthManager in a single slash, right?
spare rover
So trying to look into the whole custom area business. Anyone has a class I should be looking at in dnSpy to see how gates are handled and scene loaded?
copper nacelle
You can't have multiple of the same component unless it's on a child Kaeros
In which case you'd need GetComponent(s)InChildren
jade willow
weird, it's as if the slashHit was called multiple times and it would go into the code under the condition checking if the otherCollider had a HealthManager multiple times despite hitting a single enemy
copper nacelle
could log the gameObject name
Might be hitting multiple colliders if they have more than one
jade willow
I think I might be confusing things... I've been reshaping that piece of code and moving it through sections, I'll try to figure out what's my actual issue at the moment before bothering again
copper nacelle
Might also be every frame
jade willow
omg I think it finally works
Nice it works now, oddly enough I feel like the only thing I changed in my last change was to remove logs, but that doesn't make much sense
fair rampart
Hmm, even when I exceed the data buffer size of 4096 B by a little bit I can still send the whole packet
Wonder if I can abuse that
lapis stratus
Okay, looks like I have a fix for the RandoMapMod not giving maps out on new games then. I have an update I need to submit for EnemyRandomizer as well that has fixed the loading issue for a few test cases
lapis stratus
Is it preferred to submit the modlinks pull request for each mod update separately or can I do them together?
unborn flicker
Either is completely fine
jade willow
How does one change the mod name that appears on the title screen and the version next to it?
Oh! That's probably it, I kept trying to rename my file and change the name in the assemblyinfo.cs file
Nice okay so the name is the class name of the mod class, thanks!
now to figure out how to manage my own version and stuff with that section of the whole thing
ohh nice :D
That's a good workaround
spare rover
Thanks anyone! I started to look at it earlier. I think I got the general gist of it. Will have to try and implement it now! ^^'
copper nacelle
i recommend assembly version and then a hash at the end for when you forget
that's what i do at least
public override string GetVersion()
{
Assembly asm = Assembly.GetExecutingAssembly();
string ver = asm.GetName().Version.ToString();
using SHA1 sha1 = SHA1.Create();
using FileStream stream = File.OpenRead(asm.Location);
byte[] hashBytes = sha1.ComputeHash(stream);
string hash = BitConverter.ToString(hashBytes).Replace("-", "").ToLowerInvariant();
return $"{ver}-{hash.Substring(0, 6)}";
}
oh wow that's neat
jade willow
whoa my version got pretty crazy
copper nacelle
yeah that's what the using statement is for
using var x = y is short for using (var x = y) { ... }
and using just calls dispose at the end of the block
jade willow
copper nacelle
that's a long version ngl
jade willow
the version was 1.0.* I think if I set it to 1.0.0.0 it should look alright
or is that not how this works
copper nacelle
4 decimals is what shows up yeah
I mean assembly version goes up to major.minor.something.something
on the version class
afaik
jade willow
oh okay now I have 1.0.0.0-2e1c8e instead of just 1.0.0.0 but I think that is right
jade willow
ah so that's wha the * does
leaden hedge
imagine putting remotely useful version info
jade willow
basically used the example project to try and make my first attempt at modding it
figured it was the best way to start with some form of structure
fair rampart
change the version to FAILED TO LOAD! Check Modlog.txt for ultimate confusion
mossy saddle
gilded lotus
wannacry 
ornate rivet
I cant believe modinstaller has ransomware in it
no wonder windows tried to warn me
fair rampart
managed to get skin loading times down after I discovered TcpClient already does fragmentation itself
still takes a while
and still I'm unable to change only one player's texture
copper nacelle
wrong because i'll figure it out for them 😤
fair rampart
omggrub
gilded lotus
figure out the 5 knights charms while you're at it
copper nacelle
figured it out
So the material isn't actually really used
if it's not equal to materialInst then it gets set to it
so you have to change that
that however is on the sprite definition which is in a tk2dSpriteCollection which is shared between the two gos
so you'd maybe think - why not change the renderer
and this sort of works
you can set the renderer material
and it will set
but for any gameobject with a tk2dSpriteAnimator it will call SetSprite on the tk2dSprite which will cause a build which overwrites the material on the renderer
so you should basically make a new collection
also
collection is a monobehaviour
and is therefore attached to a gameobject
which is a separate prefab which tc named the same thing
that just has the collection data on it
e.g.
jade willow
I found a way to change the color of the slash, but I would like for it to change any slash used and not just the one I could verify through the SlashHit hook, I am struggling a bit to get a reference to those instances of slashes, I've tried to fetch other slash types (So far I've found Slash, DownSlash and UpSlash and an elusive AltSlash which I'm not entirely sure why/how it works as it seems to just be a regular slash that happens sometimes). I've decided to make an array of all those slashes and affect them all in sequence but now I am getting an error where I can't make reference to them as they are not available from the Instantiate function.
So in short:
- is there a surefire way to change the color of all slashes instead of searching for every slash types available and changing each one manually one at a time
- Is there a way I could reference the Slashes once at the start just to keep reference of its base values
- What's AltSlash?
copper nacelle
if you slash twice in a row it's different from the first slash
all the prefabs for the slashes are on the herocontroller
jade willow
ooooh okay so I should be able to access all of that from the herocontroller in the instantiate function instead of whatever I was doing
wow... okay that's opening many doors
and also what's alternateslash?
fair rampart
the other slash when you slash quickly multiple times in a row
fair rampart
so Sid found the solution
you have to get the MeshRenderer on the game object, assign its material property block to a new MaterialPropertyBlock
then modify its "_MainTex" property and set the MeshRenderer's mat property block
jade willow
Is it an okay practice to set all variables the mod requires to set in a SceneLoad Hook? I figured it doesn't happen often enough to be too taxing, but I'd rather use some form of method that happens once when the game is loaded instead
fair rampart
time to change the meshrenderers of every gameobject that gets instantiated 
jade willow
okay that's cool
for instance I want to store the slash's color in a variable but I don't need to be doing that more than once if I can help it
copper nacelle
don't worry about performance
jade willow
but but but but but (okay)
copper nacelle
unless you're spawning 700 objects a frame
jade willow
yeah nothing like that yet, it's just that I'd like to have the equivalent of a Start function that just calls itself once to set my stuff when you load your game
copper nacelle
NewGameHook/SaveLoadHook
jade willow
Oh SaveLoad occurs once the knight has been spawned and its herocontroller is accessible? I thought for sure the process would happen before the gameplay would start
I'll go try that :D Thanks!
copper nacelle
uhh
maybe
I don't remember to be honest
But if it isn't accessible then you should start a coroutine which waits for it to be accessible then
void Initialize()
{
ModHooks.instance.NewGameHook += NewGame;
ModHooks.instance.AfterSavegameLoadHook += SaveGameLoad;
}
void NewGame() => SaveGameLoad();
void SaveGameLoad(int id = -1) => GameManager.instance.StartCoroutine(OnSaveLoad());
IEnumerator OnSaveLoad()
{
yield return new WaitWhile(() => HeroController.instance == null);
// do things
}
@jade willow kinda like this
I might've gotten the hook names a bit off and stuff because I'm on my phone
jade willow
Oh that's a nice lambda use for that thanks :D
copper nacelle
np
fair rampart
just realized I can't get the textures for the separate sprint and unn sprite sheets using this method
lavish chasm
I'm new to creating mods and I'm trying to make a mod which makes crystals from crystal hunters damage enemies too. Does anyone know where I can find information on game objects?
rain cedar
FSM viewer in the pins is what you want
lavish chasm
Aight thanks
lavish chasm
I'm trying to get the in game console to appear, but every time I edit the ModdingApi.GlobalSettings.json and launch the game, there's no console and the file resets itself
spare rover
Having a hard time with the custom scene stuff. Looked at the CustomAreaTest project and currently trying to add a gate not far to the left of the Player when you start in King's Pass. By looking through the code I saw that the CustomAreaTest.CS had the following line:
private void AddComponent()
{
GameManager.instance.gameObject.AddComponent<SceneLoader>();
}```
I added it to my "main" script so to speak, but when I start a new game I see the UI but the screen is otherwise all black. (sorry for wall of text)I think it might be related to the camera but I'm not sure
rain cedar
It is
spare rover
Yup, got the scene name in the really useful google docs!
I'll try that code, thanks.
hasty fractal
Little Hornet.
fair rampart
pog someone's actually updating the new sprites
it takes literal minutes to change the other player's skin now wtf
fair rampart
it's cooler to have it this way tho
patent zealot
Poppy said shed make her own if the multiplayer mod was working
And plus you cant flex your skins
copper nacelle
finally I can rob people's skins by playing multiplayer with them
rain cedar
Oh fuck we need drm asap 
leaden hedge
can't wait to change my skin to a dick and force people to look at it 
when you shriek it can 💦
it'll be a truly optimal skin
merry vine
I wish there were a bunch of alternate skins that were just different vessel heads, like the one in Greenpath, you could have an army of different vessels taking Hallownest by storm XD
hasty fractal
I will make Lost Kin one day.
jade willow
I tried to make it so the file name of my mod would not be ExampleMod3 and instead be something I want it to be instead, but now I've only managed to make it so that it does not build anything anymore :/
leaden hedge
you just change the name in the settings
jade willow
the settings? assembly settings?
leaden hedge
right click your csproj in vs, it'll be directly below your solution
click properties
leaden hedge
oh
you mean the thing in game
not the dll
thats just the name of thing that extends mod
jade willow
I mean I'd like to change both the file name and the one that shows up on the title screen
public class CriticalNail : Mod<SaveSettings, GlobalSettings>
jade willow
type name?
copper nacelle
CriticalNail
jade willow
Oh wait yeah that works!
got confused because I kept trying to get the file name to come out as something else, but since I can just rename the dll it should be fine
copper nacelle
dll is from project name
jade willow
project name in the solution?
copper nacelle
yeah afaik
jade willow
hmm but when I build it it doesn't work
like the dll doesn't show up in the zip file
jade willow
when I hit build it creates a zip file with my dll in it usually
but now that I'm trying to change its name it doesn't generate it anymore
probably some error in the set-up
omg
ModdingApi gives you access to like... everything
but yeah I can still make it work but I'd like for the generated dll name to not be ExampleMod3
the in-game name is fine so that should be alright
jade willow
changed it but now it doesn't generate the dll when I build it, do I need to change something else?
leaden hedge
what does it say
jade willow
1> The system cannot find the file specified.
when I rename it to ExampleMod3 it does it without an issue
leaden hedge
have you checked to make sure its actually not building
jade willow
It builds all of the folder structure, just not the dll
leaden hedge
weird that mod solution must have something added somewhere
jade willow
I supposed it's all messed up cause I chose to start from the examplemod which might have an outdated structure or set-up
fair rampart
beeg problem
safe hamlet
it's a feature not a bug
remote zealot
Cool skin
fair rampart
might have to change set the materialpropertyblock everytime the player's animation is in the sprint or unn atlas
fair rampart
gladly
rain cedar
case true when switchvariable.StartsWith("Slug ")
fair rampart
case string animPart when animation.StartsWith("Slug"):
```?it says can't convert bool to string when I try your method
rain cedar
Yeah idk how you'd actually do a 100% match for string
Not something you should do tbh
rain cedar
No don't do that either
copper nacelle
case var _ when animation.StartsWith("Slug")
rain cedar
Kinda cursed
safe hamlet
if(animation.StartsWith("Slug")) ?????
copper nacelle
but what about the rest of the switch
safe hamlet
what is he switching?
fair rampart
a string of the animation name on the player
safe hamlet
so like switch(name) where name is a string?
copper nacelle
that sounds uglier
fair rampart
it does
fair rampart
it's just a list of strings of the knight's animations
not all of them though, the rest are handled by default
safe hamlet
ooo yea i get it now
yea i don't know of a good way except just using the discard and when
fair rampart
why
icy moss
the hollow box
copper nacelle
if only i could be so grossly incandescent
floral furnace
r e c t a n g l e
fair rampart
the game also crashes occasionally
maybe 14 MB is too much for my puny network to handle
scene changes
safe hamlet
katie how much for the skin
fair rampart
I apologize I will keep the jojo skin a secret from now on
fair rampart
your attacks turn into star platinum
leaden hedge
jngo make 
skin with me
weak lodge
ok
leaden hedge
and make that the default skin online
weak lodge
i am now jingle
royal ridge
😐
copper nacelle
is admin less yellow or am i hallucinating
unborn badger
i think mod is less orange and TC is less red
leaden hedge
highly suspicous
safe hamlet
yea
leaden hedge
i wonder who could have bothered simo like 3 times for it
weak lodge
desaturated roles smh
unborn badger
tfw the server get desaturated
copper nacelle
as long as modding staff is still neon
royal ridge
Its all 3 admin tc and mods
weak lodge
what about those who use light theme
gilded lotus
we don't take into account those subhumans
weak lodge
copper nacelle
looks better for light theme i think
weak lodge
thats because the entire screen is not the radiance title card
turn it on you literally go blind
floral furnace
greens still bullying oranges
leaden hedge
it looks even better for light theme
full white is hard for the eyes on black, and making it less bright doesn't make it worse on white, considering full white is invisible on white 
fair rampart
Is there a way to put an outline on a textmeshpro through script?
a while back I tried adding a black outline to the white usernames above each player and was unsuccessful
leaden hedge
yeah should be able to
ok
i think i know the issue
the outline just doesn't work at low sizes
and if you turn the thickness up it just does this
what issue do you currently get jngo
fair rampart
the outline doesn't appear
GameObject nameObj = Instantiate(new GameObject("Username"), position + Vector3.up * 1.25f,
Quaternion.identity);
nameObj.transform.SetParent(player.transform);
nameObj.transform.SetScaleX(0.25f);
nameObj.transform.SetScaleY(0.25f);
TextMeshPro nameText = nameObj.AddComponent<TextMeshPro>();
nameText.text = username;
nameText.alignment = TextAlignmentOptions.Center;
nameText.fontSize = 24;
nameText.outlineColor = Color.black;
nameText.outlineWidth = 0.1f;
nameObj.AddComponent<KeepWorldScalePositive>();
_OutlineColor ("Outline Color", Color) = (0,0,0,1)
_OutlineWidth ("Outline Thickness", Range(0, 1)) = 0
_OutlineSoftness ("Outline Softness", Range(0,1)) = 0
_ScaleX ("Scale X", float) = 1.0
_ScaleY ("Scale Y", float) = 1.0
_Sharpness ("Sharpness", Range(-1,1)) = 0
are the material properties that mess around with it
you probably want TextMeshPro/Distance Field
leaden hedge
or TextMeshPro/Distance Field Overlay
i had to set scale X and Y to like 4
to make it show up at not 25% of the screen sizes
fair rampart
so like
TextMeshPro nameText = nameObj.AddComponent<TextMeshPro>();
nameText.text = username;
nameText.alignment = TextAlignmentOptions.Center;
var nameMaterial = new Material(Shader.Find("TextMeshPro/Distance Field"));
nameMaterial.SetColor("_OutlineColor", Color.black);
nameMaterial.SetFloat("_OutlineWidth", 1.0f);
nameMaterial.SetFloat("_OutlineSoftness", 0.0f);
nameMaterial.SetFloat("_ScaleX", 4.0f);
nameMaterial.SetFloat("_ScaleY", 4.0f);
nameMaterial.SetFloat("_Sharpness", 1.0f);
nameText.material = nameMaterial;
```?try overlay
fair rampart
same result
mystic jewel
Hello, everyone, I would like to ask something. Let's say I want to draw a new model for a boss: where do I find the boss textures? I can't see a particular folder for them in the game's directory.
fair rampart
TexMeshPro/Mobile/Distance Field?
leaden hedge
TestMeshPro yeah
fair rampart
same result 
mystic jewel
@safe hamlet Thank you. I hope it's not so hard to add new models to the game...
mystic jewel
Ok.
leaden hedge
theres multiple tm pro shaders
safe hamlet
yea i realized
leaden hedge
pepe
_FaceColor ("Face Color", Color) = (1,1,1,1)
_FaceDilate ("Face Dilate", Range(-1,1)) = 0
_OutlineColor ("Outline Color", Color) = (0,0,0,1)
_OutlineWidth ("Outline Thickness", Range(0,1)) = 0
_OutlineSoftness ("Outline Softness", Range(0,1)) = 0
_UnderlayColor ("Border Color", Color) = (0,0,0,.5)
_UnderlayOffsetX ("Border OffsetX", Range(-1,1)) = 0
_UnderlayOffsetY ("Border OffsetY", Range(-1,1)) = 0
_UnderlayDilate ("Border Dilate", Range(-1,1)) = 0
_UnderlaySoftness ("Border Softness", Range(0,1)) = 0
_WeightNormal ("Weight Normal", float) = 0
_WeightBold ("Weight Bold", float) = .5
_ShaderFlags ("Flags", float) = 0
_ScaleRatioA ("Scale RatioA", float) = 1
_ScaleRatioB ("Scale RatioB", float) = 1
_ScaleRatioC ("Scale RatioC", float) = 1
jngo blocked katie this is so sad
leaden hedge
no its saying that in main lol
_MainTex ("Font Atlas", 2D) = "white" {}
_TextureWidth ("Texture Width", float) = 512
_TextureHeight ("Texture Height", float) = 512
_GradientScale ("Gradient Scale", float) = 5
_ScaleX ("Scale X", float) = 1
_ScaleY ("Scale Y", float) = 1
_PerspectiveFilter ("Perspective Correction", Range(0, 1)) = 0.875
_Sharpness ("Sharpness", Range(-1,1)) = 0
_VertexOffsetX ("Vertex OffsetX", float) = 0
_VertexOffsetY ("Vertex OffsetY", float) = 0
_ClipRect ("Clip Rect", vector) = (-32767, -32767, 32767, 32767)
_MaskSoftnessX ("Mask SoftnessX", float) = 0
_MaskSoftnessY ("Mask SoftnessY", float) = 0
_StencilComp ("Stencil Comparison", Float) = 8
_Stencil ("Stencil ID", Float) = 0
_StencilOp ("Stencil Operation", Float) = 0
_StencilWriteMask ("Stencil Write Mask", Float) = 255
_StencilReadMask ("Stencil Read Mask", Float) = 255
_ColorMask ("Color Mask", Float) = 15
o lol
leaden hedge
are all the properties
fair rampart
I did not block Katie
leaden hedge
yeah clyde randomly blocks messages in a server with a you're blocked message
its pepega
fair rampart
isn't dilate for the text itself, not the outline?
fair rampart
oh I only saw facedilate
fair rampart
leaden hedge
still nothing?
fair rampart
nope
leaden hedge
@copper nacelle did you say something about On before?
copper nacelle
yes
leaden hedge
ok what
copper nacelle
tk has some weird properties and stuff
for like .collection.inst
so it acts strange when you try and make your own from a script
i imagine it'd be pretty easy from a bundle tbh
but then it's not a clone of the old one
which makes it e
leaden hedge
ok so is there a nice way to hook PlayerData.Rest
rain cedar
On.
leaden hedge
ok so i need PlayerData_Reset to call ss.NewGame, and i can't just hook it to that because on is pepega and won't let me run stuff that doesn't match function definition and ss is only in that scope
fair rampart
Would this be the right way to access and invoke a protected method in TMPro:
nameText.GetAttr<TextMeshPro, Action<float>>("SetOutlineThickness").Invoke(1.0f);
protected override void SetOutlineThickness(float thickness)
{
// code
}
do i just reflect modhooks to get _NewGameHook
oh maybe im pepega and something simple works
safe hamlet
what's ss
leaden hedge
SocketServer
safe hamlet
can you like get the type of it?
leaden hedge
<SocketServer>
safe hamlet
maybe you can just use reflection and invoke it
using GetMethod
inside the PlayerData_Reset
leaden hedge
i think i may just be pepega
and i can make a static reference to my ss and use that
safe hamlet
i mean if it doesn't need to be an instance, then yea
o wait what i said is kinda stupid because you need an instance anyways
so yea use static
@fair rampart pretty sure that only works on fields
you would do something like typeof(TextMeshPro).GetMethod("SetOutlineThickness").Invoke(nameText, 1.0f)
copper nacelle
monomod has a fast reflection delegate helper
leaden hedge
what
unrelated to monomod i tried this and i didn't work 
and now im basically out of ideas
oh
leaden hedge
oh i might be pepega
leaden hedge
let me put it after
although its async
and i highly doubt its sending and recieving that message faster than playerdata gets reset
ok it gets called
it just didn't reset for some reason
safe hamlet
what are you working on
leaden hedge
fixing rando tracker
safe hamlet
ic
fair rampart
Here we go again
0 MB physical memory [0 MB free].
0 MB paging file [0 MB free].
0 MB user address space [147 MB free].
Write to location 00000000 caused an access violation.```he really do be violating access tho
fair rampart
How can you even do that in c#
nimble lake
yea if you go to multiplayer and use a skin that other people don't have access to, they will have access to it, so you gotta be careful with that
fair rampart
it's simple if you don't want people to have your rare pepes don't show your rare pepes to people
still locust
We know that's really hard to encrypt skins
fair rampart
bruh just use some crypto magic on the skins like the netflix does
floral furnace
Visual Studio (or any C# IDE), then others like an FSM viewer or DNSpy
copper nacelle
rider and avalonia ilspy instead of dnSpy
floral furnace
doesnt rider need an edu account to be free
ornate rivet
yea
fair rampart
Is there some property about bytes that idk about that makes this loop output an additional zero at the end?
for (byte client = 0; client <= byte.MaxValue; client++)
{
Log("Client: " + client);
}
The output is like
Client: 1
Client: 2
...
Client: 254
Client: 255
Client: 0
nvm I just found a stackoverflow post
<=
troule are you ready to write several hundreds more lines of C code to handle skins for your server
sure
What happened to that multiplayer mod
Is it still a thing
elfin holly
wait , is there a multiplayer mod to hollow knight?
fair rampart
checked out some lossy png compression tools, it makes knight.png go down to 3.5mb by reducing the color palette, but eeh
like unless you have a really shitty internet it won't be much of a difference, and you'll only upload it once anyway
well I also added a way to detect if a player changes skins too
@fair rampart still a thing but very slow progress
ornate rivet
what happened to the video
fair rampart
80% memory in use
safe hamlet
pog
copper nacelle
i cannot believe jngo is chrome
fair rampart
time to GC.Collect everywhere
copper nacelle
copper nacelle
any GlobalEnums
copper nacelle
DEFAULT = int32(0)
IGNORE_RAYCAST = int32(2)
WATER = int32(4)
UI = int32(5)
TERRAIN = int32(8)
PLAYER = int32(9)
TRANSITION_GATES = int32(10)
ENEMIES = int32(11)
PROJECTILES = int32(12)
HERO_DETECTOR = int32(13)
TERRAIN_DETECTOR = int32(14)
ENEMY_DETECTOR = int32(15)
ITEM = int32(16)
HERO_ATTACK = int32(17)
PARTICLE = int32(18)
INTERACTIVE_OBJECT = int32(19)
HERO_BOX = int32(20)
GRASS = int32(21)
ENEMY_ATTACK = int32(22)
DAMAGE_ALL = int32(23)
BOUNCER = int32(24)
SOFT_TERRAIN = int32(25)
CORPSE = int32(26)
UGUI = int32(27)
MAP_PIN = int32(30)
under GlobalEnums
fair rampart
fair rampart
The easiest solution is to just use HTTP
This is what valve did with source
flat forum
fair rampart
(yes it sounds dumb but then you don't have to worry about a lot of stuff)
fair rampart
revisited my old implementation of using my own fragments and skins load faster with it ? ? ?
copper nacelle
gg
ornate rivet
gg
fair rampart
have no idea why tho, it's technically larger packets to send
fair rampart
because the OS is already fragmenting the packets ?
anyone know how tf the translation mod was made in the first place? did the creator make some sort of script to push the game's strings into google translate and not mess up the syntax?
fair rampart
the gdrive with the mods?
fair rampart
i'll probably have to manually make a script like that for another game
cuz i'm trying to make a translation mod too
copper nacelle
the py is like pretty simple
it just takes a very simple dict and gives it back but ruined
fair rampart
didnt even know you can do shit like that with python
porting that to another string system is gonna be pure cbt tho
cuz the game im modding uses one json for all strings
copper nacelle
yeah there's some broken stuff
i think the tags are still like half in there
for like italics
nimble lake
ok i do think i found an actual bug with your bindings mod that isn't a visual bug
i can't seem to get lifeblood from killing lifeseedlings
copper nacelle
ruined
nimble lake
i went into a pantheon with the mod on (and turned on all bindings in the pantheons itself as well) and when i got to the bench with the lifeblood, i got nothing
ornate rivet
lifeblood is actually useful in the pantheons 56 smh
hasty fractal
First try with Sprite Packer.
hasty fractal
Sorry for spam I had a problem with the video.
elder jolt
lol sleepy knight
viral snow
plop
jade willow
I got HKEdit2 and I downloaded the right unity version, but I don't really know where to go from there to do anything at all, I can't really get started, I think it's supposed to be a plugin kinda deal for unity where I'll be able to load up the game's scenes and modify/make my own, but I'm not sure how any of this will work or how I'll package it with my mod. Is there a guide on how to set things up and get started?
I usually open things from a scene on unity I guess there has to be a way to just hook it up somehow
ornate rivet
in unity, you do "open project" then you select the world edit folder
jade willow
omg of course
I kept trying to look for an executable or something
thanks!
man I really get tripped up on every step along the way
I'm guessing trying to open the levels contained in my steam's hollow knight hollow_knight_Data is not what I'm supposed to be doing as I keep getting errors doing so. I see a mention of a path for ExportedScenes in my HKEdit folder but I do not have that folder in there, am I supposed to do something else first before loading a level or am I once again just thinking about all of this the wrong way?
jade willow
Thanks!
jade willow
Alright I've went through that video tutorial and made one change by adding an image to the game (in scene level6 to change the place where the game starts) I bundled the new assets and now have a file that I think contains my changed level
I decided to name it level6 and put it in my hollow_knight_data folder (after making a copy of it to make sure I wouldn't change something permanently where I couldn't go back)
the map is just dark, I can hear the nail but nothing occurs
fair rampart
anyone want to help me test the latest build of multiplayer with skins partially implemented
fair rampart
fair rampart
it'll likely crash one of our computers after a while
cause I'm bad at memory management
patent zealot
the whole pc or the game
fair rampart
game
patent zealot
Ah
fair rampart
this time we'll have to use hamachi since it's ahead of troule's server development-wise
patent zealot
Gonna need a refresh on how to use it lol
copper nacelle
The perfect time to steal skins
fair rampart
join
patent zealot
PVP still off?
fair rampart
I can turn it on if you want
patent zealot
I dont mind since we are just testing the skins
fair rampart
ok I'll leave it off then
vocal spire
can I join?
fair rampart
sure
vocal spire
How do I?
fair rampart
do you have hamachi?
vocal spire
no
fair rampart
download it
vocal spire
ok
young walrus
sick vessel
I desided to pop in to here and read that there's a multiplayer mod in the works. I'm highly interested now .
vocal spire
This isn't a virus, right?
floral furnace
why would it be
sick vessel
Why would a mod have you download a virus?
vocal spire
sorry, the last time I downloaded something I clicked on the wrong link
floral furnace
unless you mean hamachi, then its also a no
fair rampart
who's y
copper nacelle
y
floral furnace
you
copper nacelle
is it supposed to throw 80 key errors
copper nacelle
I gotta say that's worse than 80 key errors
fair rampart
I'll have to see what's going on
vocal spire
great skins
young walrus
looks ready to ship
copper nacelle
vocal spire
I want to try them sometime, when will they be released?
floral furnace
just say its a feature and call it a day
patent zealot
what skins
copper nacelle
it's the same as the video mushroom sent though
young walrus
yours
heavy crow
@fair rampart I'd be down to hop in as well, just downloaded the mod and hamachi but have no idea how to use hamachi
vocal spire
me too
patent zealot
jngo ur skin loaded
fair rampart
nice
fair rampart
not nice
copper nacelle
it seems like it sent properly
idk if it's on the right spot though
oh i figured it out
copper nacelle
@fair rampart the sprint texture got loaded as the knight texture
Put on sprintmaster
vocal spire
How do I use hamachi?
fair rampart
first make an account
patent zealot
I almost crashed lmao
vocal spire
ok
copper nacelle
the skin works after being sent again
fair rampart
are you in dirtmouth as y?
patent zealot
copper nacelle
yes
patent zealot
You both christmas knight?
copper nacelle
no i don't even have custom knight on
fair rampart
I'm stuck in an infinite loading screen
after trying to enter Sly's shop 
y'all mind if I restart
fair rampart
alright, server's back up
patent zealot
Whos hoke, btw your skin loaded instantly this time
patent zealot
Ah cool
copper nacelle
no sekiro knight i sleep
fair rampart
everyone turned into grimm knight for me
patent zealot
Ask hoke if he has custom knight on
patent zealot
vocal spire
I’m trying to join but hk decided to be slow
fair rampart
nice
copper nacelle
i accidentally hit my dupe elderbug and crash the game button
icy moss
are you guys testing on the dedicated server?
copper nacelle
Poor life decisions
fair rampart
I'm guessing your log is begin destroyed
patent zealot
Does hoke if he has custom knight, thats probably why
fair rampart
local server cysipy
patent zealot
56 said he didnt have custom knight and it put ur skin on him
vocal spire
I think I am in
icy moss
am i able to help test or do you already got enough people
vocal spire
But I didn’t have a save in dirtmouth
fair rampart
it showed the default skin for hoke for a minute
patent zealot
Did you change ur skin?
fair rampart
no
patent zealot
Now you and hoke are infected vessel skins
copper nacelle
fair rampart
all my networks are full, so we're good cysipy
fair rampart
alright I finally crashed
vocal spire
Is everyone in dirtmouth?
patent zealot
I am, i dont see anyone
copper nacelle
probably because jngo crashed
fair rampart
I crashed
patent zealot
O
patent zealot
Rip
heavy crow
quite rip
heavy crow
@vocal spire I see you!
vocal spire
Is anyone else in dirtmouth?
fair rampart
I am but I can't see you either
vocal spire
I can’t see anyone now
It might be my internet because after I got a new modem it just got worse
I’ll try re connecting
fair rampart
try restarting instead, I'm restarting my game so the server will be offline for a little bit
vocal spire
Ok
It would be nice if radiance would stop screaming at me when I launch hollow knight, it is nice to know it will be killing me until I go insane, but I don’t need to know that when I am just playing multiplayer
I see people
fair rampart
I'm gonna close the server now and work on this more
rain cedar
Use sekiro knight next time so yusuf can steal it and give it to me
vocal spire
yes (not better than pokemon though)
unborn badger
it’s like Pokémon but the game is good
rain cedar
first of all how dare you
leaden hedge
someone who is less pepega than me upload this to the drive
safe hamlet
which drive
leaden hedge
what do you mean which drive
safe hamlet
the drive 
safe hamlet
o
let's see if i have the link
do i leave the other playerdatatracker thing intact?
leaden hedge
wait wheres the xml file
floral furnace
sidao lmao
leaden hedge
ok sha-1 c5c12a7183f9952cadadd288a00a862964bb8e7c and link is https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1OQYtdcozAsqoeD_C3a4C9MZZ0IOfOT55
@copper nacelle ty ifly
safe hamlet
ruined you all tested multiplayer without me 
didn't get a chance to rob the textures
fair rampart
I'll be sure to use the rare and legendary Graig Knight skin next time
leaden hedge
holographic graig skin 
still locust
I'll be sure to use the rare and legendary Graig Knight skin next time
@fair rampart what does that mean?
fair rampart
zealous juniper
Blursed
still locust
I think they fit well
icy moss
i wanna create a custom knight but im unsure what programs i should use
merry vine
Anything that can open an image and alter it, like Photoshop or in my case Microsoft PowerPoint
icy moss
i think firealpaca should work
nimble lake
I think TWP people use some kind of software that lets you do it more easily
fair rampart
GODump and SpritePacker are also useful for retrieving and editing individual sprites and seeing how they look in animations
leaden hedge
icy moss
trans pin
trans pin
polar surge
Uhm, hey there, are there any useful resources that can get a beginner into HK-modding? (while I'm pretty familiar with python, c/c++, java, modding is something I really wanted to do but never started)
floral furnace
https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding good place to start
HK is in unity which uses C#
check out the example mods
polar surge
Aight, thanks
safe hamlet
np
safe hamlet
thanks 
fair rampart
np
lavish chasm
@polar surge make us a mace bug fight
copper nacelle
you broke it
ornate rivet
yes
the problem is that I haven't changed my code since yesterday
but it wont work today
ornate rivet
but whyyy I haven't done anything
gilded lotus
Is it the WP bench
ornate rivet
no, if it was that then the game would actually load
ornate rivet
fiveknights
copper nacelle
Good job you killed the coroutine too
safe hamlet
Coroutine couldn't be started because the the game object 'OptionsMenuScreen(Clone)' is inactive! u know something about this?
ornate rivet
oh I figured it out