#archived-modding-development
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anyways, probably just install seanprcore
That's what most people with this problem forgot to do
I would like to point out again that I have it set as a dependency in the installer
So it should be automatic
Gradow fix your installer
Do you have it as a reference in managed or in mods?
My reference is in managed right now
That question doesn't really make sense
I think it would work in either
As long as it's loaded in the current app domain or the randomizer can find the dll itself
Either would work as long as you're consistent about it, right?
Like, if you set the reference in mods, but then a user only has it in managed, the randomizer wouldn't be able to find the file, right?
No, that's not really how references work
All of my reference dlls are at ~/source/references
Ah, so the user's filepath doesn't matter as long as it's in the app domain.
Thanks, that cleared it up for me
Is there a version of the randomizer out yet that includes relics?
Thanks!
I don't have enough here to say if that's true
You're not showing the attack choice states
hm?
you mean like?
sorry im new to this
im assuming that when HP is less than or equal to token 1 (370HP) broken vessel does the headbang attack
here's the next one down
it's not hard, just tedious with some fsms
I did 
why would you do that to yourself
cause i thought it'd be useful
it is, thank you
understandable
just looking for a fan map of WP and Godhome so i can add those two
does anyone have the printed hierarchy for the lurker scene?
I don't have any of the non-godmaster ones
almost finished on the idle animation
Wait what are you animating? @rapid swift
@jovial vault Drawing my OC in customknight
whats your oc?
Nice
me too drawning my oc in paint

very cool
gaming
Epic
Scrolling basically doesn't work
Because of the ui manager they have
It constantly takes focus away
I mean you can do scrolling as you attempt to move off the bottom
You just can't do scrollbars
And if you can't do scroll bars you might as well have pages
legit unironically cool
The Charm Overhaul mod actually have me reasons to use Kingsoul. Kudos to the creator
i am so sad
π
good
mac player cannot play rando 2.9
mac player cannot play multiworld
what mistake did mac player madeπ π
not committing to the repo to fix the issue
oh, i am sorry about that
actually, its not an issue. its just that mac cannot run the exe application.
It's a dot net binary
mono gamers rise up
And even if that didn't work, all the code is on the github so you could just pull and compile it yourself
@brazen mortar I could theoretically build one, if you could give me a rip of the map sprites
only a little number of exe can be ran by mono
the only one i know is the mod installer
@haughty spade the ripped sprites are pinned in #art-discussion
If you could that would be great ty!
smh weebs
cd to the folder before running mono i think
i did it
ok
I'll try!
i wanted to make a screenshot, so i cleared the terminal
oh god
incredible
wowwwwwww
vriska horns
was just a test
ill have to remake the head since it wont fit in the hitbox and if i keep it like that its too ugly
color range?
@jaunty garden it can't find the MultiWorldProtocol DLL
That's all well and good, but doesn't mean he extracted it correctly or knows what folder was being referred to
But yeah obviously users lie
I could ship it with a shell script I guess
But I can't make it automatically install mono, I think
Oh, you know what. Even if he ran it from the current folder, he didn't extract it to the correct directory anyway
It should work in downloads as long as everything is in there
But it's less than ideal of course
Either way he clearly didn't follow the instructions on the github page
Shocking
Right? Reminds me of that one Douglas Adams quote
And the point right above that?
Is about editing the mod settings
Is still about the config
yeah... guess I should go to sleep
Good night
oh
@brazen mortar when you said map, did you mean like
layout, or functions/events
what are some good mods?
khan
@sudden sonnet
We can't tell you what "some good mods" are. We don't know what you like, look at mod summaries and choose what you like
oh ok, sorry,,
@vale zenith thankyou, i reviewed the steps and i think i get the point. ill try it later
@haughty spade just the layout I think
https://rainingchain.com/hollowknight/map it's not in the in-game map style but there are actual maps of both wp and gh on this website @brazen mortar
Interactive map for the game Hollow Knight. Includes Godmaster DLC.
Just pushed out changes to the tracker! It was just UI changes, so no update to the dll. I had to change how scaling works, so please remember to edit before using it. It's now based on pixel values rather than zoom%. If anybody is curious, 39 pixel is equivalent to the old 25% value. https://kingkiller39.github.io/HollowKnightRandomizerTracker2.8/Index.html?editing=true&profile=1
@haughty spade yeah i know that map
would use it but it doesnt really work too well with what style on going for
so im just holding out for something better until otherwise
here's what I've done so far
please don't expect it to be to scale ;-;
@brazen mortar this is where I'm stopping for now
City of Tears is big
to quote our prez, it's yuge
God lightbringer is so dumb at times
It forces you to " fuck overcoming the challenge to somewhere else "
LK just wont fucking die
thanks for letting me know not to touch that one π¬
isn't lightbringer kinda easy though
yeah, if you go and get the good shit first
but rn i was doing LK
He just wouldnt die
i legit spent like 6 minutes spamming attacks on it on my longest attempt and nope he alive
Ill just go back to him later
holy crap are you making a custom area
sorry to disappoint :(
@haughty spade oh i uhm
might've tried to recreate myself heh
sorry but i got bored 
daaaaaaaaamn that was fast
way better than what I was doing too
sorry I wasn't of much help @-@
you gonna add the pins tho?
grazi, I'll do that myself
good modding talk
hi sorry
@brazen mortar alley yoop
o shoot, where?
sorry, I haven't really explored the second story of godhome @-@
thought you couldn't access it until you unlocked P5
well there ya go :|
Still, I got all the benches and the lifeblood area, so, that's a plus
Sure, I'll do that
might check the wiki also since they have a fetish for screenshotting every single room in the game
wow! a map of godhome! cool!
anyone have charm 1 cost mod
infinite notches?
infinite notches? u mean u can use charm all of them?
yes
is that godhome map fan art or
Yep
Who was the creator(s) of the lightbringer mod?
yes
56 what's the story behind your name now
imagine speedrunning hollow knight
ikr
ok buddy
thats me
no
photoshopped
Are you questioning my artistic abilities seven hundred and fifty three
oh the number
ok
How do I check which modding API I have installed?
If you're using the installer, it'll update it automatically
Just by opening the installer
Oh ok thanks
Does the Lightbringer mod have an extra pale ore?
Theres cleary 8 total here
But i dont remember grabbing an extra one anywhere
Did the game just bug out or ^?
which mods change the skin of the knight
custom knight
no
yup
has nes ever gotten custom scenes into hkworldedit
Didnt he recenty
@solar jacinth im too dumb to understand 
oh nvm i get it
i think
so how do i change the skin now
i need sprites 
π
If only there was a guide pinned
10/10
looks like the knight fell into a bag of Cheetos
The colors are from iron man
I dont know if I'm ever gonna be able to beat this fight
I havent even gotten him 1/4 down yet
that is kind of the point yes
Pale Champion is now on the modinstaller
ok π³πππππππππ | Lace is hot
I found a request for what could potentially be the greatest mod in the game's history.
https://old.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/cfsy6f/mod_idea/
π€€
by greatest did you mean worst
Ladies and gentelmen, new mod from me: Cherry madness and in it:
Now location: West Berryier
Explore the old bug farm giving the food for all rest of kingdom. Now doomed by plague is full of bloodlust plants, farmers ready to harvest soul from others and more!
Whole new Weapons!
- crossbow (50% bestiary ) ( additional weapon)
- scythe (from an boss. Everyone know wich) (main weapon)
- shield ( Coloseum) (additional)
- cherry granades (new location) (additional)
Charms:
no name actually 2 notches - make you dont sliding of an wall while using mantis claws
- In Unns shape: allow you to stick to walls and even ceiling. (like those Little white ones on howling clifs)
berry boom 2 notches - each focus (if you have no lifemask x) give you additional lifemask x made od beeries
- when lifemask x is destroyed it make an explosion around knight
winged shoot 3 notches
-simply auto aim for crossbow
2 now Bosses (informations Comming soon)
What about boss scills
download where
saleh, pale champion is a clusterfuck
yes
and it doesnt take knockback which makes it really annoying
knockback won't really matter once the real fight starts
I could add it to the first phase though if you think it would improve it
in phase 1 I keep getting hit because I think I can hit it from the ground easily without it just walking right into me
and I just thought of a possible cheese for phase 1
ok I'll add recoil.
use minions and cling to the wall and shade dash when it throws the knife things
probably wont work for later phases though
it doesnt burrow when you're sitting in the corner
I'm testing the cheese and it doesn't seem like it starts phase 2 when you do the cheese
ok I can fix that
those messages sent in the wrong order lol
it also doesnt even throw the knives when you are up high on the wall
yea phase 1 relies on you hitting it, I forgot to add minions as a damage source
ah okay
okay so if you cheese him the fight doesn't actually end
the only way out is to dreamgate lol
and dreamgating out doesnt stop the music
and I can't crystal dash
and going through a loadzone froze my game
I want to test if that always happens when you dgate out but dgate takes too long and I dont have debug installed for invincibility 
well, enabled
okay so it doesn't always do that when you dgate out
it doesn't seem like flukenest counts as a hit either
saleh has the music tied to the sound and probably triggers the change with an FSM if you dreamgate out it probably isn't transitioning cause you haven't met the FSM criteria to change / stop the music.
i know nothing about modding so i'm probably wrong but yeah
what does the hell mod do the readme dont work
it makes everything harder
and the readme does work
you just have to download to see readmes
because the readmes aren't included in the installer
same
actually most of the reads arnt working for me
.md is a very complicated file type
.md actually stands for "mood" for that very reason, little known fact
Tiso boss battle lol
Hell mod makes things hell.
slightly harder
Just a bit.
hell mod is free
Who doesn't want a little hell for free?
yeah all the other mods cost money
@brazen mortar ok I just looked up a map lol
Wat
the pins
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
Pfft
I think you got the bench pos wrong too.......
Sorry for like sodhsbdiudg
But I think the third bench is higher up
I'm going based off of the big map website
It puts the third one right on that cliff over towards the right
Ah then raining chain got it wrong
oh wait
no I'm triple rarted I got it wrong
fuuuuuuu
in my defense I have still not visited WP myself yet
bluh
Itβs ok only Third try
so what did you need these maps for anyway :?
- Cause for some reason no one else has done this
Like white palace has been released for two years plus
yeah that is quite odd
For fun, we could call it the White Mansion.
And like last year I was wondering if someone had made a fan map yet
But decided to hold out on doing anything and hope that someone else could do it
Cause I was like trash at digital art then
well the good news is you got the hard ones out of the way
now all that's left is uhhhh, weaver's den and the archives area where monomon is
no
Thank you for the response
I think weaver's den would be useful quite frankly, the layout's a bitch to memorize
oh right, I forgot the maps prefer building one giant rectangle π€¦
i'm trying to decipher some of this shit in cranky's room rando logs, this is impossible
k
@silk jetty
I added all damage sources and there should be recoil now
ok
Sorry, but where can i get the lightbringer mod

@light robin

so does the mod installer have the most recent or updated versions of the mods?
Yes
;Δ°
where is all mods descriptions?
I think I'm going to buy hollow knight on steam solely to play these mods
this sounds like great fun
unfortunately switch has no mods
well if way back when TC had been cool about adding official modding support that might be different
memories
you misread that sugar
Well I guess somebody needs to cause confusion
Even if it's just through poor reading comprehension
ok
guys do any of you know if a endless Sob mob exist
sob?
just use debug and set your nail dmg to 0
^
Anyone know if itβs possible to get to howling cliffs, sheo, or the watcher knights chest without mantis claw? Itβs the last thing I need for my randomizer run and Iβm pretty sure Iβve checked everywhere else
I have all other movement abilities
howling cliffs is with a shit ton of HP and a shade skip, but that's not in logic
otherwise, no
those all require claw
Yeah I donβt have any of the skips turned on
so you're forgetting something
you mean the radiance
yeah, it's called "radiance"
i thought a fair absolute radiance was absolute radiance
and the wall of light attack must reach halfway across the arena before the next attack can even start
so you saying that they're overlapping means you aren't dodging the attack correctly
https://puu.sh/DVHSn/54e38b17a5.png it's literally only like a 5 degree curve if that
@gilded lotus 0 nail damage turns off the hitbox
make it 1 dmg then idk
debugging yourself a 9999HP enemy and setting a 1 damage nail'a the best you can get
It keeps the hitbox just everything has a check for somereason
If naildamage <= 0 don't do anything
negative nail dmg is op
edit files to have 0.0001 nail damage
You could just edit that function to not have that check
Or on hit set HP back to max
EnemyHPBar
does the shade have an upward slash?
no
slide mino a 20 and i'm sure that could be a yes
eeeee
Is there a list of what all is in the randomizer? Iβve been looking at a map of everything and Iβm at a loss as to what I couldβve missed
Depends which version you're using
Iβd assume the first one since I wasnβt aware there was multiple versions
2b.15?
Alright
Should just be charms and abilities, then
Randomizer Helper for the game Hollow Knight.
I'll take a look at that, thanks
how do I use the FSM viewer?
@ornate rivet in pale champion I think that the spikes dont work right
if you fall into them you can stay in the same spot and you dont take damage
so you can heal in phase 2 by falling into the spikes
I found it because I started healing right before the spikes came up and was greedy
yeah
then realized that I didnt get hit
it sounds like the mod has been a ton of trouble coding wise
fuck off 56
fuck off yourself buddy
okay
toxic green names :DansGame:
says the man who said fuck off
for reacting to the wrong message
yup omegaluls are really scary
I say that a large amount of the times that 56 reacts with omegalul
why does pale champion have the capability to shoot out an entire screen worth of the spinny spikes
why not
I might not be moddings go to artist anymore whoops π
what did you do 
nothing Im just busy
busy making mods π
x

isnt a person with a sonic pfp made this?
Um
so
I was going to download modlinks.xml
but I may or may not have accidentally deleted it
thankfully I had a copy of it from yesterday so I just uploaded that, but now my modinstaller won't work so I think I messed something up
please don't kill me
uhhh
Brother you shouldn't have done this
fuck
oopsie
oh no
so gradow will probably have to update the installer

Drive has a trash can thing though
yeah if he didn't do it 30 days ago it should be in the trash
there are no files in my trashcan
ok
unfortunate
I tried pressing undo but it gave an error
wonderful
you dont know how to get files back?
yeah he has to update the installer
the owner might be able to do somethnig
It doesn't matter sugar we have the file
honestly
oh ok
might be a good time to move over to github
The issue is the installer now tries to fetch a file which doesn't exist
Yeah
Gradow put modlinks on GitHub now too
put it to the same location
So it's like actually perfect

I could update the installer rn
ok good, crisis averted
hmmm
Ah fuck. I can't believe you've done this
is my actual mood rn 
my hands are shaky and the download and remove button are right next to one another
Saleh do you have the latest modlinks or no
yes
give
Hey , i wonder , can you install mods for HK trough steam?
no
Damn
You gotta use the mod installer which is extremely simple and straightforward to use
yes
oops
56 will fix my mistakes as always

so
no
im giving you some extra time
woah that was fast

understandable
modinstaller is fixed
or it should be
it gets modlinks before updating the installer by using the installer field on modlinks
so people have to update manually
unfortunate
yeah
I did that and I still got the error
how do i commit die
is radiant host updated?
yes
oof
oh no
my screen randomly flashes when i try and open the installer
clearly this means it is working
oh the installer has a sha1
ok
should be fixed in like 30s
is it still having a seizure for everyone else
i forgot to remove a space
e
ok, thanks 56
yw
@silk jetty
Spikes have been fixed.
same

oof

u
you can do this!
it works now
:pog:

@rain cedar how i can see HealthManager and DamagesHero works?
dnSpy
ok
ok but dnspy ββdoes not let me see the code so comfortable, it shows me a lot of comments and it's a little weird
Is there any configuration to change that?
dnspy is shit
xD
just open the class
it gives compiler errors in any case
the fields are all placed on the bottom anyway, best to just disregard the comments

oh
dnspy is shit
wich files of managed i should use on dnspy
wow there's 3 types of hero zote hornet and the knight, just the 3 playable characters planned
If you go to options you can turn off the token comments
i'll try
can
someone help me about why every single time when i try to compile it gives errors (even if i dont make any changes!)
if you don't give any information besides, "it's not working," I can't exactly help
ok let me get a screenshot
did you redownload it
yes
when
do it again
ok
because it worked for someone else
nope
smh modding with dnspy
what else
modding api
is that a thing
sugar that's how pretty much every single mod in the installer is made
Saleh
yes?
why do you lie to me
I do not sir
that's the old version
idk you're bad
check the exe shasum
35bfc825ddeda73d15f0fa0bee9475733cd4c13f
buddy
sha1 sum
for the installer
is
aa0a65d4f2d11ab74cdd563d37c853a4be936626
no
it was for me
this works
this is very confusing
Download the installer again
rename it to yeetSkeet.exe
and then try running it
JAJAJJA
and also move it to a different folder
nope
what in fuck
Open an incognito tab and try downloading it again
And before running it check the sha1sum
Then check the sha1 after running it
JAJAJJA
why
@copper nacelle how to use knight go/fsm?
what
@ornate rivet Playing Pale Champion. You did a fatastic job on this one, but I'm struggling because I think the buzzsaw hitboxes are a tad too big. I find myself getting damaged when dashing through gaps in the buzzsaws even when it looks "right," and there's a bit in the part where black fog comes in that I swear you need nearly frame-precise pogos to not bonk on the row of saws above.
fatastic
fantastic, whatever!
In any case, it feels a bit of a gamble to actually slip through the saws in the phase where they first appear, and I am getting much better results out of just tanking and bursting with ddark. I assume this is not how I'm intended to deal with the phase, but that's where my inclinations are because I feel like I'm just going to take damage anyway lining up with these really narrow gaps.
ok I can decrease them. The difficulty isn't set so if any other spot feels too hard or too easy, tell me and I will fix it
On closer inspection, it's mainly just this attack
The phase right before is also rough but this attack right here feels like nigh-guaranteed damage, and is way, waaay harder than the other moves that can happen during this phase
would making the gap longer help?
Going through the gaps in the previous phase's "walls" is still really tight, but I'm getting better at it.
I'll make those wider too
and yeah. The problem is, pogoing in there is very, very likely to bonk you on a saw overhead, unless you time it REALLY well. Gotta be as close as possible to the bottom saw, or you're getting hit.
Yeah, looks pretty hard to clip on that by accident.
by which I mean, if you're aiming dead center there, you can bet on making it through
that still sounds weird. Maybe I should sleep.
Latest version of PC should now be 1.2.0.0
All current on the installer?
yea
I have a simple mod request. Or at least the outcome is simple. Not sure if it would actually be easy to code.
Basically, I'd like for the Mantis Lords and Sisters of Battle to have a shared health pool during the second phase. So for the case of the Sisters of Battle, instead of three separate health pools of 750, they would share a health pool of 2250.
The reason this change is good is because in vanilla, the action intensity decreases every time you defeat a Mantis Lord. It would be much more enjoyable for the action to be intense until the very end of the fight.
won't happen unless you do it yourself
Sending you Monopoly money. I had to mortgage my hotels on Park Place to do this.
Is redwing just supposed to make you overpowered?
yes
kinda disapointing
Hi, I'm currently trying to get all achievements and I didn't get the 112% yet. I'm also super interested of mods, can Item or Area randomizer deny possible steam achievements on a current save, in any way?
Also, sorry for my english
(I might post that in #archived-modding-help maybe)
I guess making a Backup is also recommended, but I've encountered games that making backups doesn't recover properly when I copy/past it back (After an update for example)
Thanks for advices !
yea backup your files too but that doesnt have to do with losing out on a steam achievement
but as i said just go offline in steam and you wont get achievements
and delete the rando save when done
Ok I see, that's very interesting since I wanted to get them the most fairly possible
Thanks a lot
np
well in randomizer you probably won't get the stuff for a lot of the achievements
i mean how far are they in the game anyway
i mean like if they got to fight a later game boss that they didnt before
yeah i guess
Anyway I've already most of achievements, speedrun ones and steelsoul ones, even if I don't have the 112%. Strangely this is way harder for me
That would be funny to get a secret achievement in randomizer
I'm especially talking about them (secret achievement) bc I don't know how to get some of them
I've just launched randomizer mod and this is so cool, It's like I'm re-discovering the game in a different way
HK Mods seems so good
@copper nacelle HK completion % is gonna be 1% less than max because of the one less mask you start with, right?
Someone DM'd me about it
@solar jacinth while credit would be nice, it's not that big a deal
also credit's not even necessary for this because it doesn't even use the pins soooooo
I've just found something very interesting in my Room randomizer run, some sort of Manderbug house with a diary of him
Simo is learning to modify the game files 
woah 2 green names active on mobile
Nutty
oh god oh fuck
Ok, but this is extremely ancient news
tfw you use mawlekDefeated instead of killedMawlek 
Is grimmchildAwoken used for anything? I can't find it, but wanted to be sure
Ok, I hadn't checked Grimmchild - Control, and I see it there
Maybe a special animation after defeating NKG for the first time?
Well, not important for rando anyways
smh mola
Can someone help me with my Randomizer Run? I am kinda lost.
Dont know how to reach Monarch Wings, Mantis Claw or Mothwing Cloak
Got to Resting grounds through the crystal peak dark room (which took me like 1 hour because i am a casual :x)
you played on hard settings?
nah doing normal without glitches and stuff
got Grubberfflys Elegy at resting grounds which helped me get into greenpath
but I dont know how to reach mothwing/mantis/monarch
and you only have item rando on, right?
yep

i haven't looked at the logic in a long time, but Claw is needed to get Grimmchild in the first place
so it's strange
Muri stop you are being disaster
God is typing, i'm leaving 
Kade is supposed to go to Fungal Wastes using the infection
I was informed that is "easy" but I am now removing it
but why is Mantis Claw at Grimmchild? Is there any new skip or QoL stuff i'm not aware of?
Yes, I call it "picking up Grimmchild, so you can then pick up Grimmchild"
The game-changing new progression item has arrived π©
So wait how do I get to Fungal Wastes now? 
What triggers infected crossroads?
no problem
i still haven't got a clue how you're supposed to get Mantis Claw, but as long as it helped you
well thats a problem for future kade not present kade :x
okay got mothwing cloak now. next problem: mantis claw
not in randomizer
was there a multiplayer mod in development
yes
is it still in development
pretty sure it is
there are prob some videos of testing somewhere
not on youtube
but in this channel
please link for #hk-discussion we are curious
buried somewhere
Geez, what's with all these low quality answers?
From what 56 has told me it's still really basic and also seems to only be local rather than online
wasn't online determined too difficult to be worth it?
It rudimentarily works from what I've heard, haven't tested it
No idea if online is too difficult. It's definitely doable, but I don't think anybody will want to make that for free
or at least I don't
Again, I don't care too much about online
I'm willing to play with local, I have a friend who's also super into the game
Good thing your opinion is the only one that matters
So I won't discuss anything not directly related to it, got it
just use parsec
no no no I didn't mean it like that! D:
I understand completely some people want online!
I was just saying I'm grateful this even exists, not having online isn't a bother for me
It definitely isn't finished
I absolutely did not mean for my messages to come across as that
So it'll probably break somewhere
lmao Firzen imagine just having racer role
Well I mean
Huh? Is that something I should care about?
I guess it's like being a mini-tester!
I'm sure 56 can tell you more about it when he's around
this post was made by blue name gang
I see, you're just full of shit
Any other way you'd like to not contribute anything? Or are you done for now?
stop bullying firzen!
this channel is offtopic half of the time and theres not really anything else to add to the conversation
So you figured "The channel is on topic for once, let's stop that"
From what I hear this game isn't very good for modding so that's part of their pessimism
the ontopic conversation had already had everything useful that could be said about it said
And not saying anything wasn't an option, makes sense
@haughty spade maybe, but that's why we wrote the modding interface, to make it easier
I guess so
Making mods is quite painless now, imo
It's just that when I got the "big talk" first time I showed up in this channel it was almost unanimous agreement nothing can be done with this game cause it's coded like shit
Thanks to the API and the FSM viewer, it's much easier to understand what's happening and how to change it
And the fact that the game is poorly coded doesn't mean that modding is necessarily difficult
It's still coded like shit, but the tools are much better now than when Sean and I first wrote the interface and Team Cherry was like "Yeah, fuck that"
They aren't active with any of the HK communities really
team cherry is also really weird with patching glitches, they aren't good at interacting with the community
People have put a lot of effort into being able to automagically patch modding support into the game after the fact because TC didn't want to support it officially
I think that is more accurate than saying they are hostile
ah, I see
Their apathy has caused resentment among the speedrunning/modding communities though, which is certainly fair
I mean they appear to be hostile against speedrunners with their patching glitches that nobody would accidentally do
even if they aren't
@unborn flicker We talked to them originally when we had the first version of modding support
And they really didn't want to officially add it
So at least they actively refused
is there a mod that allows you to like cycle through areas/rooms
but they're weren't opposed to the community doing it themselves?
That's why all that monomod stuff is in there now
I know devs who don't add mod support to their game because of legal issues/personal decisions or whatever but still allow the community to flourish
TBF, TC did give permission to privately distribute the API
Sonic Mania is a good example, doesn't have official mod support, but one of the devs even played a good selection of mods on stream once
originally we manually patched the binary to add support for modding and were hoping that they would backport it so we wouldn't have to redo it every time they update the game











