#archived-modding-development

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vale zenith
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You're welcome body

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Any other bodyparts I can supplement for you?

unborn flicker
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anyways, probably just install seanprcore

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That's what most people with this problem forgot to do

rain cedar
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I would like to point out again that I have it set as a dependency in the installer

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So it should be automatic

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Gradow fix your installer

unborn flicker
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Do you have it as a reference in managed or in mods?

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My reference is in managed right now

rain cedar
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That question doesn't really make sense

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I think it would work in either

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As long as it's loaded in the current app domain or the randomizer can find the dll itself

unborn flicker
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Either would work as long as you're consistent about it, right?

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Like, if you set the reference in mods, but then a user only has it in managed, the randomizer wouldn't be able to find the file, right?

rain cedar
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No, that's not really how references work

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All of my reference dlls are at ~/source/references

unborn flicker
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Ah, so the user's filepath doesn't matter as long as it's in the app domain.

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Thanks, that cleared it up for me

manic swallow
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Is there a version of the randomizer out yet that includes relics?

manic swallow
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Thanks!

brazen mortar
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broken vessel does the headbang attack at 3 hp values?

rain cedar
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I don't have enough here to say if that's true

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You're not showing the attack choice states

brazen mortar
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hm?

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sorry im new to this

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im assuming that when HP is less than or equal to token 1 (370HP) broken vessel does the headbang attack

safe hamlet
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yes, that's right

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ik control has a check for that bool that triggers the event

brazen mortar
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yay ty!

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still figuring this out but it isn't as hard as i thought it would be

safe hamlet
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it's not hard, just tedious with some fsms

brazen mortar
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tedious is my middle name

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guess who mapped out all the scene names cirnoDab

ornate rivet
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I did hollowwoke

safe hamlet
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why would you do that to yourself

brazen mortar
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cause i thought it'd be useful

ornate rivet
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it is, thank you

safe hamlet
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understandable

brazen mortar
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just looking for a fan map of WP and Godhome so i can add those two

ornate rivet
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does anyone have the printed hierarchy for the lurker scene?
I don't have any of the non-godmaster ones

rapid swift
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almost finished on the idle animation

jovial vault
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Wait what are you animating? @rapid swift

rapid swift
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@jovial vault Drawing my OC in customknight

hollow valley
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whats your oc?

jovial vault
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Nice

violet quartz
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me too drawning my oc in paint

copper nacelle
solar jacinth
floral furnace
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very cool

copper nacelle
solar jacinth
copper nacelle
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but this server has elderC

leaden hedge
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Epic

solar jacinth
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epic

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also

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i know

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i wanted it to be BΔ°G

copper nacelle
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fair enough

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the MenuButtonList we use isn't scrollable right

leaden hedge
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Scrolling basically doesn't work

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Because of the ui manager they have

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It constantly takes focus away

copper nacelle
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ah

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unfortunate

leaden hedge
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I mean you can do scrolling as you attempt to move off the bottom

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You just can't do scrollbars

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And if you can't do scroll bars you might as well have pages

floral furnace
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legit unironically cool

copper nacelle
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def need pages if i add other field types

knotty beacon
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The Charm Overhaul mod actually have me reasons to use Kingsoul. Kudos to the creator

jaunty garden
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i am so sadfeelsgrubman 😭

ornate rivet
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good

jaunty garden
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mac player cannot play rando 2.9

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mac player cannot play multiworld

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what mistake did mac player made😭 😭

copper nacelle
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not committing to the repo to fix the issue

jaunty garden
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oh, i am sorry about that

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actually, its not an issue. its just that mac cannot run the exe application.

copper nacelle
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what

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but you can

vale zenith
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It's a dot net binary

copper nacelle
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mono gamers rise up

vale zenith
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And even if that didn't work, all the code is on the github so you could just pull and compile it yourself

haughty spade
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@brazen mortar I could theoretically build one, if you could give me a rip of the map sprites

jaunty garden
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only a little number of exe can be ran by mono

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the only one i know is the mod installer

copper nacelle
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have you

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you know

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tried it

jaunty garden
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try the exe in multiworld?

brazen mortar
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If you could that would be great ty!

safe hamlet
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smh weebs

copper nacelle
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cd to the folder before running mono i think

jaunty garden
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i did it

copper nacelle
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ok

jaunty garden
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first cd, then mono --arch

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and i tried twice, which makes it run error twice

haughty spade
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I'll try!

jaunty garden
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i wanted to make a screenshot, so i cleared the terminal

rapid swift
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it worked

ornate rivet
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oh god

jovial vault
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incredible

violet quartz
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wowwwwwww

haughty spade
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vriska horns

rapid swift
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was just a test

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ill have to remake the head since it wont fit in the hitbox and if i keep it like that its too ugly

solar jacinth
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there is easier ways to change the cape colour

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color range

rapid swift
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color range?

vale zenith
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@jaunty garden it can't find the MultiWorldProtocol DLL

rain cedar
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56 already said to run it from the proper folder

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Really makes you think

vale zenith
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That's all well and good, but doesn't mean he extracted it correctly or knows what folder was being referred to

rain cedar
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Well yeah obviously

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He's running the command from his home directory

vale zenith
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But yeah obviously users lie

rain cedar
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I could ship it with a shell script I guess

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But I can't make it automatically install mono, I think

vale zenith
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Oh, you know what. Even if he ran it from the current folder, he didn't extract it to the correct directory anyway

rain cedar
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It should work in downloads as long as everything is in there

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But it's less than ideal of course

vale zenith
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Either way he clearly didn't follow the instructions on the github page

rain cedar
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Shocking

vale zenith
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Right? Reminds me of that one Douglas Adams quote

rain cedar
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Actually looks like the only instructions you wrote for the server is "run it"

vale zenith
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And the point right above that?

rain cedar
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Is about editing the mod settings

vale zenith
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You make a valid point

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and the one above that

rain cedar
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Is still about the config

vale zenith
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yeah... guess I should go to sleep

rain cedar
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Good night

haughty spade
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oh

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@brazen mortar when you said map, did you mean like

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layout, or functions/events

sudden sonnet
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what are some good mods?

hollow pier
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khan

ornate rivet
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@sudden sonnet
We can't tell you what "some good mods" are. We don't know what you like, look at mod summaries and choose what you like

fair rampart
sudden sonnet
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oh ok, sorry,,

jaunty garden
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@vale zenith thankyou, i reviewed the steps and i think i get the point. ill try it later

brazen mortar
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@haughty spade just the layout I think

haughty spade
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Ah, good, ok

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I'll try my best

brazen mortar
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Basically a copy of the the in game map style

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Alright ty!

haughty spade
simple python
brazen mortar
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@haughty spade yeah i know that map

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would use it but it doesnt really work too well with what style on going for

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so im just holding out for something better until otherwise

haughty spade
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please don't expect it to be to scale ;-;

brazen mortar
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ooh looking good

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how much details are you planning to put into this?

haughty spade
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uh just very generic shapes

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maybe mini icons and some bench/hotspring pins

leaden hedge
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you could use the embraced ones map

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and trace

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and you'd get it to scale

brazen mortar
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TEO only has like

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4 areas done

leaden hedge
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why is he so slow 😠

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it was like that 6months ago smh

brazen mortar
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City of Tears is big

haughty spade
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to quote our prez, it's yuge

proper sequoia
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God lightbringer is so dumb at times

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It forces you to " fuck overcoming the challenge to somewhere else "

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LK just wont fucking die

haughty spade
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thanks for letting me know not to touch that one 😬

leaden hedge
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isn't lightbringer kinda easy though

proper sequoia
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yeah, if you go and get the good shit first

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but rn i was doing LK

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He just wouldnt die

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i legit spent like 6 minutes spamming attacks on it on my longest attempt and nope he alive

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Ill just go back to him later

dawn oxide
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holy crap are you making a custom area

haughty spade
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no haha

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it's a map of godhome

dawn oxide
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oh

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sad

haughty spade
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sorry to disappoint :(

floral furnace
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w h y

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also i forgot to rename it from shader to is fontasset empty but wtv

brazen mortar
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@haughty spade oh i uhm

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might've tried to recreate myself heh

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sorry but i got bored I_KonataCry

haughty spade
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s'fine!

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can I see?

brazen mortar
haughty spade
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daaaaaaaaamn that was fast

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way better than what I was doing too

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sorry I wasn't of much help @-@

brazen mortar
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ay ty!

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nono im glad you offered

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ty for helping!

haughty spade
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πŸ‘

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now do weaver's den

brazen mortar
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frrr WP first

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weaver's den isnt important rly

haughty spade
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you gonna add the pins tho?

brazen mortar
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hm? prolly not

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you can add them on to if you want

haughty spade
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grazi, I'll do that myself

leaden hedge
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good modding talk

deft yacht
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I'm sorry.

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:(

copper nacelle
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hi sorry

haughty spade
brazen mortar
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Missing a bench

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Top bench

haughty spade
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o shoot, where?

brazen mortar
haughty spade
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d'oh! I'll fix that right away

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isn't there a hotspring too?

brazen mortar
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Uhm

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You might wanna just

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Refresh yourself in godhome again

haughty spade
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sorry, I haven't really explored the second story of godhome @-@

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thought you couldn't access it until you unlocked P5

brazen mortar
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Ah

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You can’t

haughty spade
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well there ya go :|

brazen mortar
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Look up a vid then?

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I’m sure there’s plenty

haughty spade
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Sure, I'll do that

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might check the wiki also since they have a fetish for screenshotting every single room in the game

jaunty garden
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wow! a map of godhome! cool!

solar jacinth
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woah

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p cool

primal rain
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anyone have charm 1 cost mod

solar jacinth
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infinite notches?

primal rain
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infinite notches? u mean u can use charm all of them?

solar jacinth
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yes

primal rain
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damn.. sure I guess..

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is it on pinned msg?

weary oyster
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is that godhome map fan art or

jovial vault
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Yep

haughty spade
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yeye

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No in-game map for you

proper sequoia
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Who was the creator(s) of the lightbringer mod?

ornate rivet
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@buoyant obsidian

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I think @copper nacelle updated it

copper nacelle
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yes

jovial vault
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56 what's the story behind your name now

unborn flicker
jovial vault
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imagine speedrunning hollow knight

fair rampart
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ikr

buoyant obsidian
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56 is my fan account

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obviously

leaden hedge
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ok buddy

buoyant obsidian
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another fan account

leaden hedge
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thats me

safe hamlet
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56 prolly watched some anime about friendship

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truly incredible

copper nacelle
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no

safe hamlet
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no

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ok buddy

copper nacelle
safe hamlet
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photoshopped

fair rampart
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Are you questioning my artistic abilities seven hundred and fifty three

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oh the number

jovial vault
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ok

safe hamlet
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oh

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ok buddy

tidal gale
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How do I check which modding API I have installed?

safe hamlet
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top left

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it shows you the version

young walrus
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If you're using the installer, it'll update it automatically

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Just by opening the installer

tidal gale
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Oh ok thanks

proper sequoia
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Does the Lightbringer mod have an extra pale ore?

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Theres cleary 8 total here

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But i dont remember grabbing an extra one anywhere

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Did the game just bug out or ^?

azure vessel
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which mods change the skin of the knight

solar jacinth
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custom knight

azure vessel
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yeah i have it

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where do i change the skin

solar jacinth
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no

fair rampart
solar jacinth
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yup

dawn oxide
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has nes ever gotten custom scenes into hkworldedit

jovial vault
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Didnt he recenty

azure vessel
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@solar jacinth im too dumb to understand PepeHands

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oh nvm i get it

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i think

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so how do i change the skin now

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i need sprites Thinkxel

jovial vault
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πŸ“Œ

young walrus
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If only there was a guide pinned

azure vessel
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yeye i found out

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thanks

azure vessel
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i got excited for a skin called "infected"

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poopoo

dawn oxide
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10/10

simple python
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looks like the knight fell into a bag of Cheetos

azure vessel
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true LULW

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its called iron

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and looks like piss with aids

young walrus
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The colors are from iron man

azure vessel
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its not like minecraft 0PikaMiner

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it looks nice but too bright

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OkayChamp πŸ‘

silk jetty
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oh my god pale prince is so tanky

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@copper nacelle how much hp does pale prince have?

safe hamlet
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a bit less than my iq

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3000

silk jetty
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I dont know if I'm ever gonna be able to beat this fight

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I havent even gotten him 1/4 down yet

copper nacelle
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that is kind of the point yes

ornate rivet
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Pale Champion is now on the modinstaller

azure vessel
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ok π•³π–Žπ–—π–šπ–“π–Œπ–”π–‘π–œπ–Š | Lace is hot

fair yacht
haughty spade
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🀀

copper nacelle
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by greatest did you mean worst

rain cedar
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Ladies and gentelmen, new mod from me: Cherry madness and in it:
Now location: West Berryier
Explore the old bug farm giving the food for all rest of kingdom. Now doomed by plague is full of bloodlust plants, farmers ready to harvest soul from others and more!
Whole new Weapons!

  • crossbow (50% bestiary ) ( additional weapon)
  • scythe (from an boss. Everyone know wich) (main weapon)
  • shield ( Coloseum) (additional)
  • cherry granades (new location) (additional)
    Charms:
    no name actually 2 notches
  • make you dont sliding of an wall while using mantis claws
  • In Unns shape: allow you to stick to walls and even ceiling. (like those Little white ones on howling clifs)
    berry boom 2 notches
  • each focus (if you have no lifemask x) give you additional lifemask x made od beeries
  • when lifemask x is destroyed it make an explosion around knight
    winged shoot 3 notches
    -simply auto aim for crossbow
    2 now Bosses (informations Comming soon)
young walrus
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What about boss scills

silk jetty
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download where

silk jetty
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saleh, pale champion is a clusterfuck

ornate rivet
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yes

silk jetty
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and it doesnt take knockback which makes it really annoying

ornate rivet
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knockback won't really matter once the real fight starts
I could add it to the first phase though if you think it would improve it

silk jetty
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in phase 1 I keep getting hit because I think I can hit it from the ground easily without it just walking right into me

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and I just thought of a possible cheese for phase 1

ornate rivet
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ok I'll add recoil.

silk jetty
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use minions and cling to the wall and shade dash when it throws the knife things

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probably wont work for later phases though

ornate rivet
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yea you could do that if you wanted to zote

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(pls don't)

silk jetty
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it doesnt burrow when you're sitting in the corner

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I'm testing the cheese and it doesn't seem like it starts phase 2 when you do the cheese

ornate rivet
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ok I can fix that

silk jetty
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those messages sent in the wrong order lol

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it also doesnt even throw the knives when you are up high on the wall

ornate rivet
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yea phase 1 relies on you hitting it, I forgot to add minions as a damage source

silk jetty
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ah okay

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okay so if you cheese him the fight doesn't actually end

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the only way out is to dreamgate lol

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and dreamgating out doesnt stop the music

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and I can't crystal dash

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and going through a loadzone froze my game

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I want to test if that always happens when you dgate out but dgate takes too long and I dont have debug installed for invincibility notlikequirrel

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well, enabled

rain cedar
silk jetty
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okay so it doesn't always do that when you dgate out

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it doesn't seem like flukenest counts as a hit either

leaden hedge
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shouldn't do

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doesn't in vanilla

gilded lotus
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saleh has the music tied to the sound and probably triggers the change with an FSM if you dreamgate out it probably isn't transitioning cause you haven't met the FSM criteria to change / stop the music.

i know nothing about modding so i'm probably wrong but yeah

tidal carbon
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what does the hell mod do the readme dont work

silk jetty
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it makes everything harder

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and the readme does work

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you just have to download to see readmes

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because the readmes aren't included in the installer

tidal carbon
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i did download it just to read it

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dont work

copper nacelle
tidal carbon
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actually most of the reads arnt working for me

rain cedar
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.md is a very complicated file type

gilded lotus
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.md actually stands for "mood" for that very reason, little known fact

west arch
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Tiso boss battle lol

solemn basin
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Hell mod makes things hell.

gilded lotus
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slightly harder

solemn basin
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Just a bit.

leaden hedge
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hell mod is free

solemn basin
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Who doesn't want a little hell for free?

fair rampart
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yeah all the other mods cost money

haughty spade
brazen mortar
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Wat

haughty spade
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the pins

brazen mortar
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White... castle?

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I think it’s called white palace

haughty spade
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GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

brazen mortar
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Pfft

haughty spade
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im ultra rarted

brazen mortar
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I think you got the bench pos wrong too.......

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Sorry for like sodhsbdiudg

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But I think the third bench is higher up

haughty spade
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I'm going based off of the big map website

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It puts the third one right on that cliff over towards the right

brazen mortar
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Ah then raining chain got it wrong

haughty spade
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oh wait

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no I'm triple rarted I got it wrong

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fuuuuuuu

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in my defense I have still not visited WP myself yet

brazen mortar
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It’s ok only Third try

haughty spade
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so what did you need these maps for anyway :?

brazen mortar
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Uhm

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  1. For scene names
haughty spade
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aaaah I see

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and also just to have them I guess?

brazen mortar
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  1. Cause for some reason no one else has done this
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Like white palace has been released for two years plus

haughty spade
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yeah that is quite odd

solemn basin
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For fun, we could call it the White Mansion.

haughty spade
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at least we have them now

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corny would be proud

brazen mortar
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And like last year I was wondering if someone had made a fan map yet

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But decided to hold out on doing anything and hope that someone else could do it

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Cause I was like trash at digital art then

haughty spade
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well the good news is you got the hard ones out of the way

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now all that's left is uhhhh, weaver's den and the archives area where monomon is

brazen mortar
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Do I even wanna map those?

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Cause there are quite a few I could map

copper nacelle
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no

brazen mortar
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Thank you for the response

copper nacelle
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archive's area is piss easy to remember

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literally prefixed with fungus3_archive

brazen mortar
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I think I will map out Bretta’s home

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That ones difficult to memorize

haughty spade
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I think weaver's den would be useful quite frankly, the layout's a bitch to memorize

brazen mortar
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I mean

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It’s one room

haughty spade
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oh right, I forgot the maps prefer building one giant rectangle 🀦

gilded lotus
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i'm trying to decipher some of this shit in cranky's room rando logs, this is impossible

haughty spade
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k

ornate rivet
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@silk jetty
I added all damage sources and there should be recoil now

silk jetty
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cool

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ill try it out twm

ornate rivet
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ok

light robin
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Sorry, but where can i get the lightbringer modthinkgrub thinkgrub

solar jacinth
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@light robin

jaunty garden
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A map of WP !

solar jacinth
amber plank
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so does the mod installer have the most recent or updated versions of the mods?

young walrus
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Yes

solar jacinth
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;Δ°

cedar panther
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where is all mods descriptions?

young walrus
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in the readmes

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and

fair rampart
wraith bear
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I think I'm going to buy hollow knight on steam solely to play these mods

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this sounds like great fun

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unfortunately switch has no mods

vale zenith
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well if way back when TC had been cool about adding official modding support that might be different

solar jacinth
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memories

ornate rivet
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you misread that sugar

solar jacinth
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fuck

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i wish they did tho

vale zenith
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Well I guess somebody needs to cause confusion

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Even if it's just through poor reading comprehension

solar jacinth
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ok

onyx pagoda
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guys do any of you know if a endless Sob mob exist

solar jacinth
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sob?

gilded lotus
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just use debug and set your nail dmg to 0

solar jacinth
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^

crystal cobalt
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Anyone know if it’s possible to get to howling cliffs, sheo, or the watcher knights chest without mantis claw? It’s the last thing I need for my randomizer run and I’m pretty sure I’ve checked everywhere else

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I have all other movement abilities

young walrus
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howling cliffs is with a shit ton of HP and a shade skip, but that's not in logic

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otherwise, no

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those all require claw

crystal cobalt
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Yeah I don’t have any of the skips turned on

young walrus
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so you're forgetting something

crystal cobalt
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Hmm I must’ve looked over something then

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Thanks

fair rampart
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you mean the radiance

young walrus
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yeah, it's called "radiance"

solar jacinth
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this is a useless modding advice maggotprime

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id prefer scills

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nvm just train

gilded lotus
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i thought a fair absolute radiance was absolute radiance

young walrus
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and the wall of light attack must reach halfway across the arena before the next attack can even start

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so you saying that they're overlapping means you aren't dodging the attack correctly

gilded lotus
solar jacinth
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if the radiance is up that will increase ofc

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but

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still ez

flat forum
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@gilded lotus 0 nail damage turns off the hitbox

gilded lotus
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make it 1 dmg then idk

flat forum
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debugging yourself a 9999HP enemy and setting a 1 damage nail'a the best you can get

leaden hedge
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It keeps the hitbox just everything has a check for somereason

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If naildamage <= 0 don't do anything

ornate rivet
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negative nail dmg is op

silk jetty
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edit files to have 0.0001 nail damage

ornate rivet
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can't have floating dmg

#

unfortunately

silk jetty
#

tbh

#

damn

leaden hedge
#

You could just edit that function to not have that check

#

Or on hit set HP back to max

twin ice
#

Hello

#

How is named the HP bar mod?

leaden hedge
#

EnemyHPBar

fair rampart
ornate rivet
#

does the shade have an upward slash?

copper nacelle
#

no

gilded lotus
#

slide mino a 20 and i'm sure that could be a yes

ornate rivet
#

eeeee

crystal cobalt
#

Is there a list of what all is in the randomizer? I’ve been looking at a map of everything and I’m at a loss as to what I could’ve missed

rain cedar
#

Depends which version you're using

crystal cobalt
#

I’d assume the first one since I wasn’t aware there was multiple versions

#

2b.15?

rain cedar
#

Alright

#

Should just be charms and abilities, then

crystal cobalt
#

I'll take a look at that, thanks

fair rampart
#

how do I use the FSM viewer?

rain cedar
#

Open it

#

Go to scene list or resources.assets

#

Click whatever fsm

fair rampart
#

guess I should've tried that

#

I thought I had to look for a file

silk jetty
#

@ornate rivet in pale champion I think that the spikes dont work right

#

if you fall into them you can stay in the same spot and you dont take damage

#

so you can heal in phase 2 by falling into the spikes

leaden hedge
#

isn't that a known bug lol

#

that saleh just hoped no one would find

silk jetty
#

I found it because I started healing right before the spikes came up and was greedy

gilded lotus
#

yeah

silk jetty
#

then realized that I didnt get hit

gilded lotus
#

it sounds like the mod has been a ton of trouble coding wise

silk jetty
#

fuck off 56

copper nacelle
#

fuck off yourself buddy

silk jetty
#

okay

leaden hedge
#

nice toxicity

#

I thought we were past this 😦

silk jetty
#

toxic green names :DansGame:

copper nacelle
#

says the man who said fuck off

leaden hedge
#

for reacting to the wrong message

copper nacelle
#

yup omegaluls are really scary

silk jetty
#

I say that a large amount of the times that 56 reacts with omegalul

silk jetty
#

why does pale champion have the capability to shoot out an entire screen worth of the spinny spikes

gilded lotus
#

why not

jovial vault
#

I might not be moddings go to artist anymore whoops πŸƒ

gilded lotus
#

what did you do GWchadThinkeyes

jovial vault
#

nothing Im just busy

gilded lotus
#

busy making mods 😎

jovial vault
#

x

flat forum
#

hug

#

well, take care throughout the schoolyear n stuff

jovial vault
solar jacinth
#

isnt a person with a sonic pfp made this?

floral furnace
#

yeah it was made by mola

#

and no thats hatsune miku pfp :think:

solar jacinth
#

no

#

wtf

#

im talking about

#

the guy who made it

#

@haughty spade

#

this

floral furnace
#

it was both mola and appolyon

#

yeha

solar jacinth
#

but why he didnt get credits 😀

#

unacceptable

ornate rivet
#

Um

#

so

#

I was going to download modlinks.xml

#

but I may or may not have accidentally deleted it

#

thankfully I had a copy of it from yesterday so I just uploaded that, but now my modinstaller won't work so I think I messed something up

#

please don't kill me

leaden hedge
#

uhhh

rain cedar
#

Brother you shouldn't have done this

ornate rivet
#

fuck

leaden hedge
#

its not name based

#

but link

#

and it won't have the same link

solar jacinth
#

oopsie

copper nacelle
#

oh no

leaden hedge
#

so gradow will probably have to update the installer

solar jacinth
copper nacelle
#

Wait wait

#

Did you permanently delete it

leaden hedge
#

yeah

#

deleted it from drive

copper nacelle
#

Drive has a trash can thing though

solar jacinth
#

i mean

#

you can get it back

#

with a shitty software

#

its ez

copper nacelle
#

yeah if he didn't do it 30 days ago it should be in the trash

ornate rivet
#

there are no files in my trashcan

copper nacelle
#

ok

leaden hedge
solar jacinth
#

not trashcan

#

buddy

copper nacelle
#

unfortunate

ornate rivet
#

I tried pressing undo but it gave an error

copper nacelle
#

wonderful

solar jacinth
#

you dont know how to get files back?

copper nacelle
#

yeah he has to update the installer

leaden hedge
#

the owner might be able to do somethnig

copper nacelle
#

It doesn't matter sugar we have the file

leaden hedge
#

honestly

solar jacinth
#

oh ok

leaden hedge
#

might be a good time to move over to github

copper nacelle
#

The issue is the installer now tries to fetch a file which doesn't exist

#

Yeah

#

Gradow put modlinks on GitHub now too

solar jacinth
#

put it to the same location

copper nacelle
#

So it's like actually perfect

leaden hedge
#

the link isn't based on location

#

its just randomly generated

solar jacinth
copper nacelle
#

I could update the installer rn

ornate rivet
#

ok good, crisis averted

copper nacelle
#

hmmm

leaden hedge
#

Ah fuck. I can't believe you've done this
is my actual mood rn intenseface

ornate rivet
#

my hands are shaky and the download and remove button are right next to one another

copper nacelle
#

Saleh do you have the latest modlinks or no

ornate rivet
#

yes

copper nacelle
#

give

ornate rivet
#

unless someone changed it between now and yesterday

robust fog
#

Hey , i wonder , can you install mods for HK trough steam?

copper nacelle
#

no

robust fog
#

Damn

fair rampart
#

You gotta use the mod installer which is extremely simple and straightforward to use

solar jacinth
#

wait

#

is mod installer broke?

ornate rivet
#

yes

solar jacinth
#

oops

ornate rivet
#

56 will fix my mistakes as always

copper nacelle
solar jacinth
#

so

leaden hedge
#

literal discussion 2inches up about how saleh fucked the installer

#

is it broke

solar jacinth
#

if installer is broke..........

#

its time to

copper nacelle
#

no

leaden hedge
#

its time to wait 30minutes

#

for 56 to fix it

copper nacelle
#

more like 10

#

i think i still have the installer cloned

leaden hedge
#

im giving you some extra time

solar jacinth
#

woah that was fast

copper nacelle
#

understandable

#

modinstaller is fixed

#

or it should be

#

it gets modlinks before updating the installer by using the installer field on modlinks

#

so people have to update manually

#

unfortunate

ornate rivet
#

wdym update manually?

#

as in download modinstaller again?

copper nacelle
#

yeah

ornate rivet
#

I did that and I still got the error

copper nacelle
#

how do i commit die

ornate rivet
#

is radiant host updated?

copper nacelle
#

yes

ornate rivet
#

oof

solar jacinth
#

oh no

copper nacelle
#

my screen randomly flashes when i try and open the installer

#

clearly this means it is working

#

oh the installer has a sha1

#

ok

#

should be fixed in like 30s

#

is it still having a seizure for everyone else

#

i forgot to remove a space

ornate rivet
#

e

copper nacelle
#

it should be fixed in 5ish minutes

#

raw github has a cache time of 300s

ornate rivet
#

ok, thanks 56

solar jacinth
#

yw

ornate rivet
#

@silk jetty
Spikes have been fixed.

copper nacelle
solar jacinth
ornate rivet
#

oof

copper nacelle
#

can someone who is not me try it

#

wow it downloads modlinks twice

solar jacinth
copper nacelle
#

u

solar jacinth
#

you can do this!

copper nacelle
#

it works now

solar jacinth
#

:pog:

copper nacelle
viral tendon
#

@rain cedar how i can see HealthManager and DamagesHero works?

copper nacelle
#

dnSpy

viral tendon
#

ok

#

ok but dnspy ​​does not let me see the code so comfortable, it shows me a lot of comments and it's a little weird

#

Is there any configuration to change that?

solar jacinth
#

dnspy is shit

viral tendon
#

xD

floral furnace
#

just open the class

solar jacinth
#

it gives compiler errors in any case

floral furnace
#

the fields are all placed on the bottom anyway, best to just disregard the comments

solar jacinth
viral tendon
#

oh

#

dnspy is shit

#

wich files of managed i should use on dnspy

#

wow there's 3 types of hero zote hornet and the knight, just the 3 playable characters planned

copper nacelle
#

If you go to options you can turn off the token comments

viral tendon
#

i'll try

solar jacinth
#

can

#

someone help me about why every single time when i try to compile it gives errors (even if i dont make any changes!)

copper nacelle
#

if you don't give any information besides, "it's not working," I can't exactly help

solar jacinth
#

ok let me get a screenshot

ornate rivet
#

56 it doesn't work for me

#

the modinstaller

copper nacelle
#

did you redownload it

ornate rivet
#

yes

copper nacelle
#

when

ornate rivet
#

now

copper nacelle
#

do it again

ornate rivet
#

ok

copper nacelle
#

because it worked for someone else

ornate rivet
#

nope

copper nacelle
#

stop being bad

#

any error info

ornate rivet
solar jacinth
#

i didnt do any changes

ornate rivet
#

smh modding with dnspy

solar jacinth
#

what else

ornate rivet
#

modding api

solar jacinth
#

is that a thing

ornate rivet
#

sugar that's how pretty much every single mod in the installer is made

solar jacinth
#

yeah ok

#

um

#

the one at radiancehost

#

right

copper nacelle
#

Saleh

ornate rivet
#

yes?

copper nacelle
#

why do you lie to me

ornate rivet
#

I do not sir

copper nacelle
#

that's the old version

solar jacinth
#

;Δ°

ornate rivet
#

buddy

copper nacelle
#

did you run that one

#

pal

ornate rivet
#

yes

#

dad

#

obs time

copper nacelle
#

you are actually making me walk downstairs

#

cancer

copper nacelle
#

idk you're bad

ornate rivet
#

eeeeee

#

as long as it works for other people

copper nacelle
#

check the exe shasum

ornate rivet
#

35bfc825ddeda73d15f0fa0bee9475733cd4c13f

copper nacelle
#

buddy

#

sha1 sum

#

for the installer

#

is

#

aa0a65d4f2d11ab74cdd563d37c853a4be936626

#

no

solar jacinth
#

it was for me

copper nacelle
#

@ornate rivet go installer breaker man

ornate rivet
#

this works

copper nacelle
#

asdfjk

#

wtf

ornate rivet
#

this is very confusing

copper nacelle
#

Download the installer again

#

rename it to yeetSkeet.exe

#

and then try running it

viral tendon
#

JAJAJJA

copper nacelle
#

and also move it to a different folder

ornate rivet
#

nope

copper nacelle
#

what in fuck

#

Open an incognito tab and try downloading it again

#

And before running it check the sha1sum

#

Then check the sha1 after running it

ornate rivet
#

incognito worked

#

those damn cookies

copper nacelle
#

cookies ax2uHmm

#

any

#

cache

ornate rivet
#

ahhhhh

#

thonks mister

solar jacinth
#

i cant stop şaughinf

#

incredible

dusky lion
#

JAJAJJA

copper nacelle
#

why

solar jacinth
#

im still laughing btw

#

it was so wild and random

viral tendon
#

@copper nacelle how to use knight go/fsm?

copper nacelle
#

what

vapid cape
#

@ornate rivet Playing Pale Champion. You did a fatastic job on this one, but I'm struggling because I think the buzzsaw hitboxes are a tad too big. I find myself getting damaged when dashing through gaps in the buzzsaws even when it looks "right," and there's a bit in the part where black fog comes in that I swear you need nearly frame-precise pogos to not bonk on the row of saws above.

copper nacelle
#

fatastic

vapid cape
#

fantastic, whatever!

#

In any case, it feels a bit of a gamble to actually slip through the saws in the phase where they first appear, and I am getting much better results out of just tanking and bursting with ddark. I assume this is not how I'm intended to deal with the phase, but that's where my inclinations are because I feel like I'm just going to take damage anyway lining up with these really narrow gaps.

ornate rivet
#

ok I can decrease them. The difficulty isn't set so if any other spot feels too hard or too easy, tell me and I will fix it

vapid cape
#

On closer inspection, it's mainly just this attack

#

The phase right before is also rough but this attack right here feels like nigh-guaranteed damage, and is way, waaay harder than the other moves that can happen during this phase

ornate rivet
#

would making the gap longer help?

vapid cape
#

Going through the gaps in the previous phase's "walls" is still really tight, but I'm getting better at it.

ornate rivet
#

I'll make those wider too

vapid cape
#

and yeah. The problem is, pogoing in there is very, very likely to bonk you on a saw overhead, unless you time it REALLY well. Gotta be as close as possible to the bottom saw, or you're getting hit.

ornate rivet
#

@vapid cape

vapid cape
#

Yeah, looks pretty hard to clip on that by accident.

#

by which I mean, if you're aiming dead center there, you can bet on making it through

#

that still sounds weird. Maybe I should sleep.

ornate rivet
#

Latest version of PC should now be 1.2.0.0

solemn basin
#

All current on the installer?

ornate rivet
#

yea

fair yacht
#

I have a simple mod request. Or at least the outcome is simple. Not sure if it would actually be easy to code.

Basically, I'd like for the Mantis Lords and Sisters of Battle to have a shared health pool during the second phase. So for the case of the Sisters of Battle, instead of three separate health pools of 750, they would share a health pool of 2250.

The reason this change is good is because in vanilla, the action intensity decreases every time you defeat a Mantis Lord. It would be much more enjoyable for the action to be intense until the very end of the fight.

gilded lotus
#

won't happen unless you do it yourself

safe hamlet
#

pay me, and i will do it

#

$1,337 will do

solemn basin
#

Sending you Monopoly money. I had to mortgage my hotels on Park Place to do this.

turbid sonnet
#

Is redwing just supposed to make you overpowered?

hazy sentinel
#

yes

turbid sonnet
#

kinda disapointing

ebon pumice
#

Hi, I'm currently trying to get all achievements and I didn't get the 112% yet. I'm also super interested of mods, can Item or Area randomizer deny possible steam achievements on a current save, in any way?

#

Also, sorry for my english

weak lodge
#

go offline in steam

#

and if you wanna make sure delete the save file when youre done

ebon pumice
#

I guess making a Backup is also recommended, but I've encountered games that making backups doesn't recover properly when I copy/past it back (After an update for example)

#

Thanks for advices !

weak lodge
#

yea backup your files too but that doesnt have to do with losing out on a steam achievement

#

but as i said just go offline in steam and you wont get achievements

#

and delete the rando save when done

ebon pumice
#

Ok I see, that's very interesting since I wanted to get them the most fairly possible

#

Thanks a lot

weak lodge
#

np

silk jetty
#

well in randomizer you probably won't get the stuff for a lot of the achievements

weak lodge
#

i mean how far are they in the game anyway

#

i mean like if they got to fight a later game boss that they didnt before

silk jetty
#

yeah i guess

ebon pumice
#

Anyway I've already most of achievements, speedrun ones and steelsoul ones, even if I don't have the 112%. Strangely this is way harder for me

#

That would be funny to get a secret achievement in randomizer

#

I'm especially talking about them (secret achievement) bc I don't know how to get some of them

ebon pumice
#

I've just launched randomizer mod and this is so cool, It's like I'm re-discovering the game in a different way

#

HK Mods seems so good

buoyant obsidian
#

@copper nacelle HK completion % is gonna be 1% less than max because of the one less mask you start with, right?

#

Someone DM'd me about it

haughty spade
#

@solar jacinth while credit would be nice, it's not that big a deal

#

also credit's not even necessary for this because it doesn't even use the pins soooooo

ebon pumice
#

I've just found something very interesting in my Room randomizer run, some sort of Manderbug house with a diary of him

silk jetty
#

yeah

#

thats a thing in vanilla

ebon pumice
#

I didn't even know if it was in the game initially lol

#

That is so cool

gilded lotus
#

Simo is learning to modify the game files shroompog

silk jetty
#

woah 2 green names active on mobile

rain cedar
#

Nutty

silk jetty
#

and now gradow is on pc

#

damn

silk jetty
unborn flicker
#

Ok, but this is extremely ancient news

copper nacelle
#

it really is

#

@buoyant obsidian yes

unborn flicker
#

tfw you use mawlekDefeated instead of killedMawlek hivescream

unborn flicker
#

Is grimmchildAwoken used for anything? I can't find it, but wanted to be sure

copper nacelle
#

yes

#

it's still going through the rest

unborn flicker
#

Ok, I hadn't checked Grimmchild - Control, and I see it there

#

Maybe a special animation after defeating NKG for the first time?

#

Well, not important for rando anyways

copper nacelle
#

😀

#

yeah that's the only fsm that i have dumped which uses it

solar jacinth
#

smh mola

hexed heron
#

Can someone help me with my Randomizer Run? I am kinda lost.

#

Dont know how to reach Monarch Wings, Mantis Claw or Mothwing Cloak

#

Got to Resting grounds through the crystal peak dark room (which took me like 1 hour because i am a casual :x)

mossy pike
#

you played on hard settings?

hexed heron
#

nah doing normal without glitches and stuff

#

got Grubberfflys Elegy at resting grounds which helped me get into greenpath

#

but I dont know how to reach mothwing/mantis/monarch

mossy pike
#

and you only have item rando on, right?

hexed heron
#

yep

mossy pike
#

i haven't looked at the logic in a long time, but Claw is needed to get Grimmchild in the first place

#

so it's strange

unborn flicker
#

Muri stop you are being disaster

mossy pike
#

God is typing, i'm leaving cornywoke

unborn flicker
#

Kade is supposed to go to Fungal Wastes using the infection

#

I was informed that is "easy" but I am now removing it

mossy pike
#

but why is Mantis Claw at Grimmchild? Is there any new skip or QoL stuff i'm not aware of?

unborn flicker
#

Yes, I call it "picking up Grimmchild, so you can then pick up Grimmchild"

#

The game-changing new progression item has arrived 😩

hexed heron
#

So wait how do I get to Fungal Wastes now? thinkgrub

unborn flicker
hexed heron
#

What triggers infected crossroads?

unborn flicker
hexed heron
#

oh god never would have thought of that

#

thanks a lot ❀

unborn flicker
#

no problem

mossy pike
#

i still haven't got a clue how you're supposed to get Mantis Claw, but as long as it helped you

hexed heron
#

well thats a problem for future kade not present kade :x

#

okay got mothwing cloak now. next problem: mantis claw

compact sedge
#

Killing a dreamer or getting double jump trigger ic

#

Maybe other things too

unborn flicker
#

not in randomizer

haughty spade
#

was there a multiplayer mod in development

solar jacinth
#

yes

haughty spade
#

is it still in development

flat forum
#

pretty sure it is

fair rampart
#

there are prob some videos of testing somewhere

#

not on youtube

#

but in this channel

haughty spade
fair rampart
#

buried somewhere

flat forum
#

no

#

effort

#

you get over here and find them yourselves

vale zenith
#

Geez, what's with all these low quality answers?

#

From what 56 has told me it's still really basic and also seems to only be local rather than online

flat forum
#

wasn't online determined too difficult to be worth it?

haughty spade
#

local is still 100% ok

#

it works?

vale zenith
#

It rudimentarily works from what I've heard, haven't tested it

#

No idea if online is too difficult. It's definitely doable, but I don't think anybody will want to make that for free

#

or at least I don't

haughty spade
#

Again, I don't care too much about online

#

I'm willing to play with local, I have a friend who's also super into the game

vale zenith
#

Good thing your opinion is the only one that matters

#

So I won't discuss anything not directly related to it, got it

silk jetty
#

just use parsec

haughty spade
#

no no no I didn't mean it like that! D:

#

I understand completely some people want online!

#

I was just saying I'm grateful this even exists, not having online isn't a bother for me

vale zenith
#

It definitely isn't finished

haughty spade
#

I absolutely did not mean for my messages to come across as that

vale zenith
#

So it'll probably break somewhere

silk jetty
#

lmao Firzen imagine just having racer role

haughty spade
#

Well I mean

vale zenith
#

Huh? Is that something I should care about?

haughty spade
#

I guess it's like being a mini-tester!

vale zenith
#

I'm sure 56 can tell you more about it when he's around

silk jetty
#

this post was made by blue name gang

vale zenith
#

I see, you're just full of shit

silk jetty
#

wow, insulting me over something that's clearly a joke

#

amazing

vale zenith
#

Any other way you'd like to not contribute anything? Or are you done for now?

haughty spade
#

stop bullying firzen!

silk jetty
#

this channel is offtopic half of the time and theres not really anything else to add to the conversation

vale zenith
#

So you figured "The channel is on topic for once, let's stop that"

haughty spade
#

From what I hear this game isn't very good for modding so that's part of their pessimism

silk jetty
#

the ontopic conversation had already had everything useful that could be said about it said

vale zenith
#

And not saying anything wasn't an option, makes sense

#

@haughty spade maybe, but that's why we wrote the modding interface, to make it easier

haughty spade
#

I guess so

unborn flicker
#

Making mods is quite painless now, imo

haughty spade
#

It's just that when I got the "big talk" first time I showed up in this channel it was almost unanimous agreement nothing can be done with this game cause it's coded like shit

unborn flicker
#

Thanks to the API and the FSM viewer, it's much easier to understand what's happening and how to change it

#

And the fact that the game is poorly coded doesn't mean that modding is necessarily difficult

vale zenith
#

It's still coded like shit, but the tools are much better now than when Sean and I first wrote the interface and Team Cherry was like "Yeah, fuck that"

haughty spade
#

oh, they're not fans of people modding the game?

#

that's kind of lame

unborn flicker
#

They aren't active with any of the HK communities really

silk jetty
#

team cherry is also really weird with patching glitches, they aren't good at interacting with the community

vale zenith
#

People have put a lot of effort into being able to automagically patch modding support into the game after the fact because TC didn't want to support it officially

unborn flicker
#

I think that is more accurate than saying they are hostile

haughty spade
#

ah, I see

unborn flicker
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Their apathy has caused resentment among the speedrunning/modding communities though, which is certainly fair

silk jetty
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I mean they appear to be hostile against speedrunners with their patching glitches that nobody would accidentally do

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even if they aren't

vale zenith
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@unborn flicker We talked to them originally when we had the first version of modding support

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And they really didn't want to officially add it

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So at least they actively refused

heavy idol
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is there a mod that allows you to like cycle through areas/rooms

haughty spade
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but they're weren't opposed to the community doing it themselves?

unborn flicker
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Ah, then I apologize for misinformation

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That predates me by a long shot

vale zenith
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That's why all that monomod stuff is in there now

haughty spade
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I know devs who don't add mod support to their game because of legal issues/personal decisions or whatever but still allow the community to flourish

unborn flicker
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TBF, TC did give permission to privately distribute the API

haughty spade
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Sonic Mania is a good example, doesn't have official mod support, but one of the devs even played a good selection of mods on stream once

vale zenith
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originally we manually patched the binary to add support for modding and were hoping that they would backport it so we wouldn't have to redo it every time they update the game