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fiery crescent
silk jetty
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yeah, it's purely for challenge

fiery crescent
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I could see it being interesting, but I definitely wouldn't be able to navigate!

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Not unless I had a few hundred more hours in the game, lul.

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Ohhh, Charm overhaul looks interesting.

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Would that mod break a save if I loaded it with it on then disabled it?

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Or does it need to be initialized at the start?

silk jetty
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no mods have permanent effects other than unlimited notches and debug as far as I know

fiery crescent
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Randomizer probably does, but that's a given.

reef ravine
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is this fine for hornet animations?

silk jetty
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I'm assuming you want me to ignore the knight slashes

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because those looks pretty good

reef ravine
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Yeah i dislike how its just a keyframe

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Well the knights slashes are what deals actual damage if im not mistaken

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ill try to replace it later on with something, maybe invisible collider?

silk jetty
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yeah, something invisible would probably work

reef ravine
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idk whey the slashes are in reverse tho ill need to debug it haha

silk jetty
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although it would be difficult to deal with your attacks alternating sides

reef ravine
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yeah thats why i was thinkin if put knight slash it'd be visible when the alternating attack

reef ravine
trim totem
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2nd is better

silk jetty
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yeah, second better

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first looks more complicated to play with

floral furnace
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defo 2nd

reef ravine
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Yeah i agree with y'all, but was imagining if went with first could have made her like a more heavy fighter, slower attack speed and so a different playstyle, but imma go with this now because i wont need to reinvent the nailslash loop

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creates class NeedleSlash cause of recoil depending on hero_ctrl

reef ravine
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Help

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[WARN]:[API] - Could not find object "Knight" in scene "Knight_Pickup" ?

copper nacelle
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knight is not in knight_pickup

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yeet skeet

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might be parented to something

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or might just not be there

reef ravine
copper nacelle
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why are you stealing it using the api preloading thing

reef ravine
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I wanna copy some prefabs to my hornet

copper nacelle
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you can just use HeroController.instance.gameObject

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just yield new WaitWhile(() => HeroController.instance == null)

reef ravine
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Ooo yeah i can just see where instance is set then hook for that call, thx

copper nacelle
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wtf

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i mean yeah

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but there's no need to on hook everything

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A coroutine is easier

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Awake would've been fine for that I think

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You'd just call orig before taking your prefabs

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Might've been Start which set instance

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I can't remember and I'm not at a computer with dnSpy to check

reef ravine
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i must on hook everythinggggg

copper nacelle
gilded lotus
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just use the ones from silksong's code

ornate rivet
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How come setting healthmanager hp doesn't change the health for pale lurker?

gilded lotus
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How come setting healthmanager hp doesn't change the health for pale lurker?

reef ravine
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is he a boss encounter?

kindred sedge
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any other mods besides chaos mod that increase difficulty?

gilded lotus
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every mod makes the game harder in some way shape or form really, besides like 1 or 2

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custom bosses are harder
randomizer makes navigating more difficult from the base game by enforcing more critical thinking
overhaul mods are generally more difficult.

really just take your pick

unborn flicker
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I do not want to click build

ornate rivet
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She's a miniboss and has a HealthManager class @reef ravine

safe hamlet
dawn oxide
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@reef ravine are you making playable hornet?

safe hamlet
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try removing this scaler

dawn oxide
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because so far your few videos look better then any existing mod

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:)

safe hamlet
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ok buddy

dawn oxide
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to be fair ive seen very little

safe hamlet
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it is very cool

gilded lotus
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Artemoire is sid's alt account confirmed GWchadThinkeyes

safe hamlet
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ok

ornate rivet
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Mega thanks Sid

gilded lotus
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you're welcome Saleh

ornate rivet
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Shut up Zaliant ๐Ÿ˜ 

gilded lotus
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wait wrong account

copper nacelle
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ok buddy

ornate rivet
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56 aren't you glad modding is active again

leaden hedge
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ok buddy

ornate rivet
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dad please stop calling me buddy

leaden hedge
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im not ur dad buddy

gilded lotus
ornate rivet
dark wigeon
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You talking about tabs being broken

ornate rivet
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yea

dark wigeon
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I forgot it was a thing but yes closing tabs a certain way is broken

ornate rivet
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hp_scaler to hpscaler

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oh no that's not what I meant

dark wigeon
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Oh the names of the tab?

ornate rivet
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yea

dark wigeon
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That was due to bug fixing replacing invalid characters that can be fixed really easily

ornate rivet
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ok

dark wigeon
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There's like a Replace("_","") somewhere

ornate rivet
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ah

safe hamlet
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smh nes, disappointed

copper nacelle
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there are two of them i think

warm lotus
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how would i go about downloading and installing the randomizer?

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thanks

fiery crescent
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Can Charm Overhaul be enabled and disabled without affecting a save?

warm lotus
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How do I know what API version Im using.

fiery crescent
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Should say in the top left in menu.

young walrus
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don't open a save, and it won't be changed

floral furnace
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i left a Logger.Log method somewhere in an Update() but i forgot where i placed it, now im getting flooded by floats on my logs and i dont know how to stop it sherma

jovial vault
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modding is active, incredible

floral furnace
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ArguementException: could not create a sprite from an 8x8 texture?
using this one
LoadAssets.spriteDictionary.TryGetValue("heatbarsprite.png", out Texture2D bar);
Sprite s = CanvasUtil.CreateSprite(bar.GetRawTextureData(), 0, 0, 146, 21);

said image is just an orange bar which is also 146x21 dimension, the bar var isnt null too

silk jetty
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idk if this is caused by a mod or not but whenever I sharp shadow into this platform it freezes my game for a second and sometimes I go through it and hit the spikes on the other side

trim totem
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what mods do you have

silk jetty
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this isnt a randomized file if that matters at all

rain cedar
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Update area rando

silk jetty
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I havent bothered to do that yet but I highly doubt that it's area rando thats doing that

rain cedar
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Ok but it is

silk jetty
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really

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why would area rando effect something like that

rain cedar
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It was previously checking every fsm except dream nail

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There's probably a fuck ton of errors in your output_log every time it lags

silk jetty
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probably

floral furnace
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nevermind, i used Unity's Sprite.Create instead of CanvasUtil's and it now works without throwing the exception which is neat skeet yeet

copper nacelle
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yeet skeet

weak lodge
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:(

hazy sentinel
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yuf skuf

jovial vault
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yeef skeef

torpid plank
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minoThor.

opaque axle
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Just a suggestion but can someone make a mod that changes all mention of SOUL to milk

copper nacelle
leaden hedge
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you can

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wouldn't even be that annoying cause you could just do .replace("SOUL", "MILK"); on the Language.Get hook

reef ravine
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@dawn oxide I sure did start doing it, but i just started taking a loooooooong detour im - gonna reimplement the HeroController class so it will be easier to make Hornet, also will propably need to change most FSMs to work with the new classes so it will take some time sharpe

leaden hedge
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most of the fsms just look for hitboxes with certain classes, so you shouldn't need to change them, just add the classes to your hitboxes

reef ravine
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Hmm yeah probably you're right, we'll see

leaden hedge
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assuming you're talking about stuff like levers/chests/breakable walls/transitions

copper nacelle
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transitions check a tag i think

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either a tag or a layer

reef ravine
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Well if anything depends on HeroController then those?

copper nacelle
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because the multiplayer thing i was doing worked when i set one of the two

leaden hedge
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i think chests are damages enemy, with a certain flag to say its a nail

reef ravine
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Oh cool buddy

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Didnt really take alot of time looking at the fsms ๐Ÿ˜›

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Would be cool if FSMView had like a query to find all fsms that responder/listen to global events

unborn flicker
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Or, if for some reason you were to do the test with the randomizer working correctly, it would look more like this, except that I can't even fit it into one screenshot so why bother

hollow valley
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Are there many mods that change the textures to the knight to look more like some of the other vessels dotted around hollownest?

young walrus
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many, no

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one, yes

hollow valley
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One?

rigid crag
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grimm one right?

young walrus
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Customknight mod

rigid crag
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o

young walrus
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there's like 20 skins you can pick

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or you can make your own

hollow valley
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I'll have to look into it ehen I get home

rigid crag
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I need to get hollow knight on pc so I can mod the shit out of it

hollow valley
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Just headed off to work

steep zenith
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how do i mod this

young walrus
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what is "this"

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and what do you mean by "mod"

steep zenith
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hollow knight my bad

wintry chasm
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heya is there a modding installer for mac iOS?

young walrus
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Yeah, the last link I posted

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Video on how to use it

wintry chasm
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thanks, however i've moved to a windows laptop to make it easier due to my controller not actually being able to connect for some reason to my mac,

sturdy pawn
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Is there a mod out there to skip Absrad's long intro? I checked the google mod list and didn't see anything. Thanks in advance

young walrus
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no

sturdy pawn
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rip

fair rampart
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QoL

royal kettle
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So in Mod Manager, what's the difference between RandoMapMod and Randomizer2?

young walrus
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One randomizes items. The other puts pins on your map

royal kettle
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Alright, cool. I'm assuming RandoMapMod is the one that modifies your map?

young walrus
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Yes

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Used in conjunction with rando2 to help people know what items they can reach

royal kettle
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Ah, Gotcha. Thanks for the help my man

compact sedge
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hey kdt was your code used in the latest celest sgdq tas or did they switch to libtas or something?

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I presume tas code for a specific game is more ideal than a general tas library but I dunno

young walrus
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They talked about it at the start

compact sedge
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thanks I actually missed that but I'll go back and watch the vod

young walrus
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It was like... A few seconds

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When they said devilsquirrels name

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Something about libtas not being a good base for it

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So they used devilsquirrels

compact sedge
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oh ok

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wow

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kdt didn't even have a hand in the tools they're using

leaden hedge
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i never submitted code

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theres a few things that are by me though

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I just told devil what to add because it was easier

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also most of those commits are level files

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so like 90% of the original any% is me

compact sedge
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ah makes sense

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thanks for the explanation

leaden hedge
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the actual program that runs the TAS is only like 8 lines or something

copper nacelle
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@sturdy pawn like jngo mentioned qol reduces the intro length by like 3/4ths

leaden hedge
hollow pier
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superdash shroompog

hollow valley
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suprised by th lack of custom vessel retexture mods

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alot of the community are pretty creative with their drawings for vessels

charred parrot
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Yes but that isn't the part of the community with the technical know how of how to do it.

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Unfortunately.

hollow valley
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i wish i knew how to do it

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im terrible at both drawing and modding

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i like the look of the greenpath vessel

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maybe practicing on replacing the textures of the hks mask for the one in greenpath?

young walrus
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Redoing every single Sprite on the sheets takes super long. And it's very tedious.

hollow valley
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id take a crack at it i just dont have photoshop or anything really to edit with

young walrus
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Good thing there's free programs

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Like GIMP

hollow valley
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wut

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gonna try it

young walrus
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It's a Photoshop program. But free

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And open source

hollow valley
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is there a knight png somewhere floating around?

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imma give it a go

young walrus
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Pins here, pins in art-discussion, and as part of the custom knight mod on the drive

solar jacinth
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@hollow valley well its so difficult to make a custom knight skin , it requires animation knowledge , art , patience , a bit of ps knowledge

jovial vault
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it's not hard

hollow valley
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i know how to use photoshop

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i just dont own photoshop

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im bad at art

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but hey i have nothing going on in my life

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doesnt hurt to learn

jovial vault
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ye!

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enjoy learning

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lmk if you need help

near anchor
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I read on reddit that someone here has made an Item Randomizer. Does anyone have the link for that?

glad plume
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Ive been looking for one of those too but i cant find any

near anchor
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The reddit post was like a year old...

glad plume
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It might actually come with a mod loader as a default maybe

rain cedar
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;i

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Bot is dead yhtsi

near anchor
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Yeah, got it. Thanks!

near anchor
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So I've been using the Item Randomizer, and it doesn't randomize the relics that you can sell to Lemm, no matter whether I pick True or False on the Lemm Sell All option when starting it. Is this a bug, or does that option do something else? And if it's not a bug, is there a way to include those relics into the randomization?

leaden hedge
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Doesn't that sell all at once

hazy sentinel
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^ sells all your relics if you talk to lemm from the right

weak lodge
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huh i thought that button reset sr.com scores for any%

fiery crescent
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I just got the dream nail in the randomizer and now I realize I can beat the game and that just makes me wanna start fresh with another randomizer run, lul. Is that common? I thought I'd have fun collecting everything again, but no dice.

solemn rivet
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I mean, not really

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you still need some movement abilities

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dnail is not enough

fiery crescent
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I found dream nail last, just by chance. I got everything else already.

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Everything EXCEPT the most basic spell, funnily enough. So maybe I'll finish the game after finding that.

young walrus
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You're not really alone in that mindset. It's why I made the bingo boards

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Give more of an end goal than just 3 items

unborn flicker
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It's also why most people now race randomizer to Radiance, rather than Hollow Knight

near anchor
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@leaden hedge Ah, gotcha.

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Is there a reason why relics aren't thrown into the randomizer pool?

young walrus
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They are on the beta version

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Which isn't on the installer

near anchor
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Also, what does the Quality of Life option with Salubras Notches do? I thought it would randomize those if I deactivated it, but it didn't, so I'm kinda lost

young walrus
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Gives them to you for free

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When you reach their purchase requirement

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5 charms, 10, etc

near anchor
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@young walrus Cool, thanks for your help.

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How would I go about installing the beta?

young walrus
near anchor
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Ah nice, thanks a lot.

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One final thing, I had a weird bug happen to me when I played the randomizer a little - not sure if this is still applicable on the newest version, but I wanted to make it known all the same: I could have gotten two Dream Nails; picked up one, and then found out that Leg Eater also sells it. I was somewhat hesitant to pick it up, but that struck me as odd.

leaden hedge
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Its incremental

young walrus
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Second pick up gives you dream gate

near anchor
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Ah, good to know.

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I'm running the 2.8.1 right now, and I'm feeling kinda softlocked. I've gotten everything I feel I can in the Forgotten Crossroads, including Shade Skipping up to Salubra and I've found neither Vengeful Spirit, Dash or Wall Jump so far, and I feel I can't progress. Neither Sly nor Iselda sell it, Brooding Mawlek didn't drop anything, the Mask Shard above the Goams is a White Fragment and the first five Grubs give me Desolate Dive, but I can't get any significant progress into Crystal Peak done either.

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Any ideas on stuff that I could have missed up to now?

copper nacelle
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you don't have djump right

near anchor
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No movement upgrades of any kind.

silk jetty
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do you have cyclone slash?

near anchor
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And only Desolate Dive as a spell.

silk jetty
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dive kills baldurs

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it does aoe when you hit the ground

near anchor
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Really? Couldn't get that to work so far.

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I'll give it another try, thanks.

silk jetty
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just dive right outside of where they block

near anchor
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Thanks a ton.

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Had no idea that the hitbox on dive was that wide.

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Does the mod ever expect me to do stuff like Stone Sanctuary without a lantern? I mean, it is possible

copper nacelle
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yeah

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cpeak dark room is semi-common

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you can always farm for lantern if you want to

near anchor
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Sly doesn't sell it tho

copper nacelle
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oh this is the beta

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Then it's if you have the dark rooms option on

near anchor
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Yup

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... Any way to check if I have that enabled? I don't remember enabling or disabling it at the start

copper nacelle
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I think it's in the save file

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If you have qol there's a json for each save file which shows the decrypted contents

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randomizer settings would be at the bottom

near anchor
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Nice, thanks

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I'll keep it in mind in case I'm stuck

fair rampart
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dont know if this is possible since i dont know how modding works at all but has anyone thought of doing a hollow knight pvp mod

leaden hedge
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you have ACE and access to networking calls, so its doable

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it would be effort and not very good

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so no one has

fair rampart
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damn

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was thinking itd be really cool

leaden hedge
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hollow knights kit isn't exactly well designed

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so it'd be kinda like diablo 3 or path of exile pvp

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a meme

fair rampart
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oof

near anchor
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Aaaand I'm stuck again. :/ Still no movement upgrades. I've completed Greenpath, gone through the Stone Sanctuary and down to Queen's Station.

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Any ideas on what I could be missing?

late jacinth
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did you dive at cPeaks top entrance?

near anchor
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Yeah, went through the peak as far as I could without a Wall Jump.

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Except the dark room with the Crystal Hunters that leads over to Resting Grounds.

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Is that doable without a Dash?

late jacinth
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its doable with 0 movement, if you know the jumps

near anchor
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Shit. I don't.

late jacinth
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but not required in easy mode

near anchor
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... this is gonna be fun.

late jacinth
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is crossroads infected?

near anchor
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Nope.

late jacinth
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im not gonna be able to guess every location. but i assure you youre not softlocked

near anchor
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Alright.

late jacinth
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theres some pogo skips that are in easy logic

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like vengefly pogo to Xroads mask shard, etc

near anchor
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Yeah, did that already.

silk jetty
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wait, thats really in easy

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wow

near anchor
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It might be the dark room in Crystal Peak.

silk jetty
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getting the vengefly to not get fucked up by the things is a real pain in the ass

late jacinth
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you got the egg above the cPeaks bench?

near anchor
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Yeah.

late jacinth
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check the seal in fog canyon , before wraiths mound location

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i really cant help much not knowing what you have or what youve exactly done

near anchor
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Got that already as well.

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I also have the Journal next to the Stag Station in Greenpath,.

late jacinth
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nothing at 5 grubs, mawlek?

near anchor
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5 Grubs was dive, Mawlek was an egg.

late jacinth
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whats your settings and send me the seed number

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easy / junkpit?

flat forum
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what's going on here

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activity

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in my modding channel?

near anchor
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@late jacinth Can I get my seed number out of the save file somewhere?

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I forgot to write it down.

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Settings were Hard / Junkpit, I think. But I'm not 100% positive that I didn't customize anything.

late jacinth
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oh "hard", then ya, youre going through dark cPeaks. good luck

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or shade skip salubra, shade skip cliffs baulders, shade skip to GPath chest/grub

copper nacelle
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seed number is also at the bottom of the save file

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when unencrypted

late jacinth
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you didnt know dive killed baulder, and you selected hard mode?

near anchor
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Maybe not the best idea, I'll admit. But I had heard of all the skips that "Hard" set as true, so I thought I might be able to manage.

late jacinth
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you can still do skips in easy mode, that are optional for you. but ya, youre nowhere near softlocked. got plenty to do in hard mode

near anchor
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Fair enough.

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I'll do some of that stuff, thanks for your help!

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Can you do the Shade Skip up to Blue Lake without a Dash, btw?

late jacinth
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yes, but need fireball stalls, and its not something youre just gonna guess at

hollow plover
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that skip is usually not needed

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is it even in logic??

leaden hedge
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probably

hollow plover
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don't forget to shade skip to baldur shell

leaden hedge
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doing fireballs to thorns is in there under mag skips

hollow plover
unborn flicker
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Neither are in logic anymore in 2.9

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But 2.9 can't release until I add room rando

leaden hedge
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wow casuals

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make mag skips required

unborn flicker
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running out of version numbers maggotprime

leaden hedge
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just add more numbers

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heres some for you a b c d e f

unborn flicker
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Ah yes, hex version numbers, my favorite

rain cedar
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2.10 easy

late jacinth
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rip the CP dive entrance 'dive only' progression seeds ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

hollow plover
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the best seeds

near anchor
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What's counted as a mag skip?

silk jetty
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dont turn those on

late jacinth
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you'll never need to worry about doing those

near anchor
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Yeah, I didn't.

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Still interested tho

hollow plover
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I've yet to run into a required one even when playing on the setting D:

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the hard seeds usually asked for more so I guess my rng is just garbo

late jacinth
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and also @near anchor , its one thing to know the skips, its another to know exactly where you can use which ones, especially in something as wide open as junkpit

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dont be mislead by "easy" mode label. ive seen plenty played by others that troll and drag out

near anchor
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Yeah, I probably should have gone easy

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Oh well

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Off to cpeaks dark room it is

solemn rivet
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oof

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just reset tbh

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CP dark room is pretty much impossible if you're not used to it

near anchor
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Chest past Massive Moss Charger and Baldur Shell weren't anything either

solemn rivet
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because of the crystal hunters

late jacinth
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ya, its gonne be a 6+ hour rando most likrly your first go through. best to just start over with a peace of mind ๐Ÿ˜„

solemn rivet
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yeah

near anchor
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Fair enough

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Unless you have any ideas for other places I'm missing, I'm going to do that

late jacinth
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i listed the hard skips up above that you have available

solemn rivet
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uhh I just got here

late jacinth
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if you only have dive

solemn rivet
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care to catch me up?

near anchor
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I only have Dive, no movement.

solemn rivet
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ok

near anchor
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XRoads and Greenpath basically done

solemn rivet
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what charms

late jacinth
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oh "hard", then ya, youre going through dark cPeaks. good luck
or shade skip salubra, shade skip cliffs baulders, shade skip to GPath chest/grub

near anchor
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Shape of Unn, Spell Twister, Greed, Steady Body, FotF, White Fragment, Nailmasters

late jacinth
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u said you already did dark no eyes mask shard

near anchor
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Yeah, I did Dark No Eyes

leaden hedge
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just install darkmod, then you never have to do dark rooms

solemn rivet
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wtf

leaden hedge
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cause every room is dark

solemn rivet
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why did you do dark no eyes

late jacinth
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then ya, those 4 spots listed are what you have left in hard mode settings you can do

solemn rivet
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do you hate yourself

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ok

solar jacinth
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modding idea replace every enemy with maggots

solemn rivet
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did you check salubra, sly and iselda?

near anchor
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Yup. Four out of six Pale Ore, but nothing that actually helps

solemn rivet
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hmm

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yeah

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that's gonna be CP dark room

near anchor
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I'll give it like three tries

solemn rivet
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heh

near anchor
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And then I'm resetting unless I get lucky

solemn rivet
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I mean, you beat no eyes blind so

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maybe you can do it

late jacinth
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no, he just got the mask shard

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cant fight no eyes without dNail

solemn rivet
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o

near anchor
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Can you actually initiate that fight without the lantern?

#

Or is it another Crystal Peak gate thing where you need it to interact at all?

unborn flicker
#

no

hollow plover
#

did you get the egg by the cpeaks bench

#

just before the darkroom

near anchor
#

Yeah

late jacinth
#

he's gotten everything easy mode requires, from what i can tell

near anchor
#

No going back, I've rested there now

#

Probably going to reset

late jacinth
#

ya, just go easy mode and do skips you know along the way for free sequence breaks. experiment with pickups you usually cant get, with what you have available.

near anchor
#

Yeah

#

Fuck that room

#

What does Longest Check mean?

late jacinth
#

keep those on standard

near anchor
#

I did

#

Still curious tho

late jacinth
#

opens up coloseum checks, white palace , later grub counts and essence

#

and others, like flower quest

safe hamlet
#

modding is active shroompog

unborn flicker
#

Is it really tho? thinkgrub

untold moth
#

Time to go kill the Baldur with spore shroom, i guess

nimble lake
#

What does seanpr mod does?

safe hamlet
#

thonk

nimble lake
copper nacelle
#

it's a library used by rando

nimble lake
#

idk what that means but ok

jovial vault
#

I do find it hilarious that since we made a whole server for what ended up being the modding friend group, this channel is now exclusively modding talk and half as active

#

Throwback to 56 complaining about us memeing here too often

leaden hedge
#

"half"

#

this is like not even 1% as active

jovial vault
#

Yea true

#

Its getting like 70 messages a day now when it used to be 300 ish

copper nacelle
leaden hedge
#

57 in a week compared to 950 in 3

near anchor
#

Can Mark of Pride hit Elder Baldurs?

leaden hedge
#

yes

copper nacelle
#

yes

leaden hedge
#

so can longnail

#

but thats not in logic

near anchor
#

Alright

#

So I'm just bad right now, gotcha

leaden hedge
#

its not exactly easy

#

you have to go in as they start to spit

solar jacinth
dawn oxide
near anchor
#

I feel I made more progress in the dark room in cpeak

#

Either this is super precise or I'm doing something wrong

#

I'm super dumb

#

I also have Weaversong

gilded lotus
#

I expressed my hate for that room a while ago and apparently itโ€™s just difficult

#

Esp for people that donโ€™t speed run and memorize those things

young walrus
unborn flicker
#

why

jovial vault
#

I read this as hasGenderKey

#

Good night

leaden hedge
#

i wish i had a gender key

jovial vault
#

Relatable

ornate rivet
#

you do if you think hard enough about it

unborn flicker
#

Crossroads took so long to add to the xml

#

700 lines on just that soulpensive

#

Well, I guess this is just going to take a lifetime or two

#

If anyone wants to contribute, here's a running list of things I eventually have to fix. That'll all go into MiscSceneChanges in the randomizer

lyric cloak
#

hello, guys. :)
i want to ask, does rando music/sound mod exist? i mean, it would be great, when you come to Seer and she is like DOMO-DOMA! or boss fight theme replaced with hot spring theme. or Waterways creatures sound like Zotelings, etc. thinkgrub

young walrus
#

no

dawn oxide
#

that sounds horribly great and like a massive waste of time to make

quiet willow
#

hey guys

#

Im new to HK modding

#

and I just saw a lightbringer mod

#

which looked really cool so i thought I'd try it out

#

Does anyone have a download link for me?

young walrus
quiet willow
#

Thanks

fair rampart
#

Hi there I am working on a review and someone already gave me the sprite maps for the knight on reddit pretty cool. Now I would like to re record footage mainly to reposition the camera in blue lake and to remove the blue lake text that appears.
Is there any mods or such, that let me do that?

bright vigil
#

I do wish to know,

#

Is there a mod that makes the Voidheart give an effect?

hollow valley
quiet willow
#

I have been wondering that too

#

I want to make my own as well

#

but it seems a shit ton of work

hollow valley
#

i dont think its this file i need to edit tho

#

the sheets that the custom knight uses are smaller

quiet willow
#

because those only edit the cape or something else

hollow valley
#

wait no

quiet willow
#

yea

#

pretty sure you need to edit this

#

but its pretty hard

weak lodge
#

no you recalibrate the sprites individually ez

quiet willow
#

thats ez yea

#

but its not very original and doesn't look that good imo

weak lodge
#

what

#

no i just said a bunch of nonsense

hollow valley
#

taking inspiration from the plenty of concept arts and ocs people have made for the vessels

weak lodge
#

editing sprites are easy once youre not adding/taking away from the sprites themselves and youre just changing colour or something

quiet willow
#

yea

#

just change the tint

hollow valley
#

im adding stuff

weak lodge
hollow valley
#

like changing horns

#

the mask

quiet willow
#

if you are adding stuff you would have to do that on all pictures right

weak lodge
#

well say goodbye to at least 6 hours of your life

quiet willow
#

on every single little knight

weak lodge
#

yes and youll have to make sure all of them are consistently in the same place as others so it doesnt wobble

#

hmm thatll take more than 6 hours

quiet willow
#

yea

hollow valley
weak lodge
#

more like 12

quiet willow
#

thats gonna be rough buddy

hollow valley
#

yeahhh

#

especially since ive never done it befor

weak lodge
#

do you have an artistic background already

hollow valley
#

does ms paint count as artistic or autistic?

quiet willow
#

lol

thick dome
#

Is recommended copy the main vanilla save before start installing mods ?

weak lodge
#

both

quiet willow
#

probably

weak lodge
#

uh not needed but recommended yes

quiet willow
#

but reinstalling shouldnt take long

#

does reinstalling delete your save files btw?

thick dome
#

Because I donโ€™t want to lose my progress

hollow valley
#

no it doesnt

weak lodge
#

just copy and paste all your save files into a separate folder and rename them, like rename your main save from user1.dat to main.dat @thick dome

thick dome
#

Great

#

Thx

hollow valley
#

surprised it hasnt been done yet

weak lodge
#

lost kin's horns come out of theknight's zone

hollow valley
#

yeah prolly does

weak lodge
#

theyre too big to put into theknight spreadsheet

#

people thought about it before

quiet willow
#

I mean you could just scale m down a bit

gilded lotus
#

the zote one is actually quite well made

hollow valley
#

i think im too ambitious

quiet willow
#

probably yea

#

Things like this take up a lot of time and are mostly only done by people that have a lot of free time and are willing to make mods for others

weak lodge
#

well i made my skin for myself and never published it so

hollow valley
#

well i do have alot of time waiting for ss

quiet willow
#

ss is gonna be a long wait im afraid

hollow valley
#

wots the skin?

#

yea

quiet willow
#

it is most likely gonna be 2020

weak lodge
#

albeit i was using mola's eyemarks and spells

quiet willow
#

and i suspect after june 2020

bright vigil
#

changing the horns

weak lodge
#

its in nintendo's fiscal year

#

itll be before april

bright vigil
#

would, from my experience,

quiet willow
#

oh I didn't know

bright vigil
#

involve shopping over every single sprite of the vessel's original head

quiet willow
#

I recently read an article that said it would most likely be after june 2020

bright vigil
#

which mighhht get difficult with angles and stuff

weak lodge
#

can this conversation move though modding isnt for this

quiet willow
#

oh whoops your right

hollow valley
#

i dont think ill edet every single one or at least not bother with the obscure ones that only play once

bright vigil
#

One i've noticed I see very often

#

That wasnt changed with Grimm Knight

#

was the sprite for teleporting into the NKG fight

quiet willow
#

grimm knight looks really really good btw

bright vigil
#

Right!?

quiet willow
#

like holy damn

bright vigil
#

Fucking love it

hollow valley
#

like i never use the dream teleport

bright vigil
#

I use it fairly often

hollow valley
#

so i see no reason to edit those animations

bright vigil
#

I have it set up in Dirtmouth

hollow valley
#

never used it

quiet willow
#

I set it up next to godhome entrance

bright vigil
#

And when I was doing the delicate flower I had it set up outside the mourner's house

hollow valley
#

since i beat the game before it was added

weak lodge
#

why is this in modding

quiet willow
#

yea sorry we will move knightmere

hollow valley
#

idk lets move on

weak lodge
#

im not being harsh just confused

bright vigil
#

Well, I honestly confused as to why it doesnt fit here

#

As it is talking about modding hollow knight sprites for ingame purposes?

hollow valley
#

just talking about editing sprites for a mod

weak lodge
#

customknight itself is a mod but talking about editing sprites would belong idk, art discussion

bright vigil
#

Although, admittedly, my drooling over the Grimm Knight sprite probably doesnt belong here <w>

#

Love the PfP, Knight, and wanted to ask a question- since it got drowned away before-

hollow valley
#

illmove this to art discussion i guess

#

ive never used gimp before

bright vigil
#

Is there any mod to add additional effects to the Void Heart?

weak lodge
#

no but since its a charm would be rather easy to do

#

if youre interested in finite state machines then be my guest and mod it

bright vigil
#

As i've been...Severely disappointed by the removal of the King charm's ability >n<

hollow valley
#

same

#

was underwhelming

bright vigil
#

yeah, cool, void entities that show up in one part of the game dont attack me. woo.

quiet willow
#

The ability was good but not worth the notches imo

#

on kingscharm

bright vigil
#

No, but it would be worth having on the Void Heart

weak lodge
#

anyway you asked what my knight skin was

hollow valley
#

ye

weak lodge
#

hold on lemme get it

hollow valley
#

cool

weak lodge
#

all sprites that show under the cloak have red parts too so i put somewhat amount of effort in this

quiet willow
#

it looks pretty good

weak lodge
#

credit to mola for helping with the eyemarks and spells

#

i think his grimmknight was inspired by me but again i have to ask to confirm

quiet willow
#

did you change the cloak a bit too or is that my imagination

#

its a bit darker right?

weak lodge
#

yes

#

very dark blue

quiet willow
#

is there a mod that adds charms?

#

or just more abilities in general

weak lodge
#

play lightbringer ๐Ÿค 

safe hamlet
#

๐Ÿค 

copper nacelle
young walrus
#

๐Ÿ“Œ

zinc orbit
#

Hey guys, I'm having trouble installing a mod, can you guys help me?

safe hamlet
#

what's the trouble

gilded lotus
#

depression

weak lodge
#

i think 56 is sleeping doubt hed answer you

zinc orbit
gilded lotus
#

he's awake just doing other shit probably

floral furnace
#

huh, theres mods on nexus

weak lodge
#

wait theres mods on nexus

floral furnace
#

apparently?

#

actually 3 mods

weak lodge
#

sir we dont know about nexus but we have mods here at

#

;i

#

shit zote dead

floral furnace
#

zotes dead

gilded lotus
#

holy shit that looks like ass

#

lol

zinc orbit
#

;i

#

?

weak lodge
#

its a command

#

its supposed to link the modinstaller

#

but the bot is offline currently

floral furnace
#

tldr we dont really know how mods operate in nexus so doubt much can help you here for it

gilded lotus
weak lodge
#

ty

#

zaliant now zote

gilded lotus
#

sumwan bot is better

weak lodge
#

honestly sumwan best

safe hamlet
#

i am glad you are working hard on watcher knights mod, knightmere

floral furnace
#

sumwan has a bot?

weak lodge
#

oh shit

safe hamlet
#

sumwan is a bot

weak lodge
#

i was just about to mention it

floral furnace
#

oh s h i t

gilded lotus
#

i am glad you are working hard on hive knight mod, zero-zero-three

weak lodge
#

my break started

#

if i do mod im def not doing knights of lurien soon

#

too complicated

floral furnace
#

you gotta abuse

#

h o o k s

gilded lotus
#

just add NKG trail it cant be that hard

floral furnace
#

didnt 56 already do that

#

like, actually did

weak lodge
#

for me making it hyper difficult isnt the focus

safe hamlet
#

he did

gilded lotus
#

then you're modding wrong

weak lodge
#

making it alot more difficult is one of the goals but not ngg level

floral furnace
#

knightmere start small then make knightmare king cornifer

weak lodge
#

you left the k in

gilded lotus
#

knightmere king kornifer

copper nacelle
#

this is not hdr

#

this is make everything look terrible

weak lodge
#

ill start going through the fundamentals

floral furnace
#

yeah we cant have triple letter ks for the title remember

#

you cant have implications like that

gilded lotus
#

since people post shorthands for mods a lot your mod will get everyone muted :^)

floral furnace
#

exactly

copper nacelle
#

@zinc orbit it says it's just a ReShade preset

#

and use the preset

weak lodge
#

56 is so useful and versitile sometimes i want to kill myself

copper nacelle
#

i always want to kill myself

weak lodge
#

ok so thats the key

floral furnace
#

also theres a reshade program right that just allows you to drop in the preset and run it

copper nacelle
#

yes it is literally reshade

floral furnace
#

oh

unborn flicker
#

it's ok 56. thanks to your 5 lines, room rando will be made

floral furnace
#

they all sound the same

copper nacelle
#

what 5 lines

zinc orbit
#

@copper nacelle thnsk!!!!!!

unborn flicker
#

I stole your thing for editing transitions

copper nacelle
#

ah

#

not even stealing the xml parsing i sleep

unborn flicker
#

typing out 9000 lines of easily automated xml data real shit

copper nacelle
safe hamlet
#

9000 lines

unborn flicker
#

well, it's at 3000 right now

copper nacelle
#

what the fuck

unborn flicker
#

but I can only assume

safe hamlet
#

teach me how to be this dedicated

weak lodge
#

teach me how to be this dedicated

safe hamlet
#

i would prolly give up if i tried anything like this

weak lodge
#

i would give up on anything

gilded lotus
#

if we were dedicated we'd be dead cause we wanna kill ourselves

unborn flicker
#

yesterday I had to bluff knowing algebraic geometry for an hour

gilded lotus
#

it's about not being dedicated

unborn flicker
#

now that was hard

weak lodge
#

i was never good at algebra ๐Ÿค 

zinc orbit
#

Do you have mods that change the knight?

weak lodge
#

customknight

unborn flicker
#

the hardest part of this is running out of content to watch zote

safe hamlet
#

custom knight

gilded lotus
#

btw am i missing something or is there more than 2 entrances to howling cliffs

weak lodge
#

there are 2

#

you cant enter from off a cliff

gilded lotus
#

cause when i played area rando 1 was a dead end room and the other didnt lead to it ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

#

i thought maybe i missed something with like super dashing from cpeak

copper nacelle
#

the one from gpath

gilded lotus
#

oh right

#

stag nest i guess

zinc orbit
#

@weak lodge have to show me

#

????

weak lodge
#

?

unborn flicker
#

where were the two entrances to cliffs?

gilded lotus
#

ignore me im retarded

weak lodge
#

greenpath and kingspass?

unborn flicker
#

stag nest isn't randomized in area rando on that version

gilded lotus
#

yeah stag nest led me to cliffs

#

lemme load it up real quick

#

it seemed off to me that howling cliffs would be so far into the rando but i guess that's part of the rando ๐Ÿคท

#

cause its random

copper nacelle
#

i have been 1 class from finishing room rando for like 30 days

#

terrible

unborn flicker
#

the Cliffs transition that connects to King's Pass should always be accessible from the other side

gilded lotus
#

and i deleted the save last night, GWchadThonkery i think greenpath was overgrown mound and dropping down into kings pass was deepnest fall

unborn flicker
#

what

gilded lotus
#

think

unborn flicker
#

that's not remotely helpful to the problem you said you had

#

how were you supposed to get into cliffs?

gilded lotus
#

climbing back up from kings pass didn't lead to cliffs

#

and then i remembered i got in through stag's nest

#

hence the ignore me i'm fucking retarded

zinc orbit
#

@weak lodge whats isc ustomknight?

#

customknight*

weak lodge
#

sigh someone link him the mod details

gilded lotus
zinc orbit
#

hmmm

gilded lotus
#

wondering how to get into howling cliffs when i'm in there

#

im smart

zinc orbit
#

have to download something?

gilded lotus
unborn flicker
#

Anyways, the point I was trying to make is that stag nest shouldn't have been required to get to cliffs

#

You probably missed the connections leading there

gilded lotus
#

i had to then

#

which still leads to the conclusion that i'm retarded :^)

#

this would be so much easier if i didnt just delete save when i went to sleep

unborn flicker
#

๐Ÿ˜ฉ

gilded lotus
#

tell you what though it's super good at killing time

#

btw if you know is spire pogo still in or is that patched

unborn flicker
#

still in

gilded lotus
#

i was trying it for like 30 minutes

safe hamlet
#

btw homothety, i don't know if this issue is known, but when i was trying out the area rando, going down the well (in dirtmouth) transitioned to some area in royal waterways where it instantly sent me back up the well

unborn flicker
#

that's fixed on the current release version

safe hamlet
#

very nice, what was the issue

unborn flicker
#

it was also fixed two versions ago

#

however, it was unfixed because I forgot to refix it when I copied everything over from my laptop instead of just committing it like a normal person

#

oh, it just has to destroy the waterways manhole when you enter from that transition

safe hamlet
#

ah, thought so

gilded lotus
#

i got softlocked when i came from waterways and used a key to unlock it but then again i was using an older version

#

or would it be hardlocked?

#

it literally rooted me in place

copper nacelle
#

soft

gilded lotus
#

i should also probably write down what leads where next time zote

unborn flicker
#

if you use the current version, it does that for you

#

and lists what places are reachable

gilded lotus
#

tbf i couldn't before cause my internet was out for 3 days

#

f u n

#

also idk if you know but using benchwarp sets the game speed to 1x, like it overrides sanic, but if you hit esc and resume it fixes

#

this is coming together really nicely though homothety, hell of a fucking job honestly

unborn flicker
#

thanks bretta

safe hamlet
#

thank you

gilded lotus
#

what a heroic modder

safe hamlet
floral island
#

Downloaded Seanps96's ModdingAPI it is installed however I am not sure if this comes with any mods or debug options, as the mod list in the game is empty. If there are no mods included. Does anyone have a list of mods that would work?

flat forum
ornate rivet
#

not having a green name is weird now

solar jacinth
#

yeah

nimble lake
#

I'm trying to make a small tweak to a mod with dnspy and for some reason i get a lot of errors when i compile

#

I even edited it before and it worked

#

but not now

copper nacelle
#

Not specifying the errors you get doesn't do anyone any favors

safe hamlet
#

give all people in sugarโ€™s guild modding staff zote

copper nacelle
#

@nimble lake Do you have the required refs loaded into dnSpy?

nimble lake
#

there are alot of errors

copper nacelle
#

A fairly typical error is not having something like Assembly-CSharp or the required Unity module loaded so it can't resolve the usings

#

that is not helpful

nimble lake
#

what do you mean by required refs

copper nacelle
#

f.e

nimble lake
unborn flicker
#

It allows you to change out the sprite sheets for the knight

#

Perhaps it would be worth the effort of making a readme for Custom Knight, since this has been such a frequent question lately?

fair rampart
#

What the fuck you're not Sugar

unborn flicker
#

right click, and click on download

#

Anyways, using my exceptional talent, I have transformed Mick's src guide into a text file hivetired

gilded lotus
#

hey guys i'm new here how do i download mods

young walrus
#

Hi, new here how do I download mods

#

I'm Mick

amber plover
#

lol

leaden hedge
#

ok buddy

gilded lotus
#

hi mick, big fan

#

can you sign my seer poster

young walrus
#

Signed.... Lou Khani

proper sequoia
#

Aite dude you download mods like this

#

you first of all disable antivirus, important step

#

then download some shit

#

and prefferably enter your personal information

#

Done, all good mods are added

safe hamlet
#

guys can we talk about politics and parasites here?

jovial vault
#

uwu

trim totem
floral furnace
#

you mean like how PK is the proof of why a monarchy has been, and always will be a failure

jovial vault
safe hamlet
brittle dove
#

Well donโ€™t

#

Thatโ€™s illegal

safe hamlet
#

sad

brittle dove
#

Yes

#

You should be sad

clear shore
#

Oh no

#

Chobikil

#

I can't control him

gilded lotus
#

@safe hamlet ๐Ÿ™„

jovial vault
#

sid wyd

lusty flame
#

do you know where to find the mod installer

nimble lake
#

Is there any benefit to turning hollow knight into a debug build?

lusty flame
#

no idear

nimble lake
#

hm ok

#

How do I edit sprites

lusty flame
#

some one said it up above if you scroll for like 5 sec

nimble lake
#

Not just custom knight

compact sedge
#

Have you tried pinned messages @lusty flame ????

lusty flame
#

???

solar jacinth
#

mod installer ?

lusty flame
#

@solar jacinth thankszote

solar jacinth
#

np

lusty flame
#

@solar jacinth ok what do you do with it do you put it in the files or...

solar jacinth
#

you just

#

run it

lusty flame
#

oh ok thanks

solar jacinth
#

np

warped sinew
#

hello friends I would like to play area rando and i dont see it in the modinstaller

#

can anyone send it my way please? ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

#

ok I found it lol

silk jetty
#

ok buddy

warped fractal
#

Hey guys, huge HK fan here.

I was wondering, is it possible to create a custom skin with the knight replaced with hornet? I know that someone is working on something similar.

silk jetty
#

not yet

copper nacelle
#

i mean you could but the size would be off

warped fractal
#

So, i can create it, but it would be a bit smaller then hornet herself, right?

copper nacelle
#

yeah

warped fractal
#

I might try to do it

#

i know it will be pretty time consuming editing all the knight images, but i'll try it nonetheless

flat forum
#

you'll have quite a bunch that lack an actual double

#

so you'll have to recreate the game's style

fair rampart
#

I love enemy randomizer.

#

Prob. my favorite mod

silk jetty
#

ehh

#

randomizer 2 has more replayability

copper nacelle
#

i also like to say ehhh to subjective things

rain cedar
#

56 mc

copper nacelle
#

yes

rain cedar
unborn flicker
#

56 rr

#

wait nvm

copper nacelle
unborn flicker
#

5000 lines tho shroompog

copper nacelle
#

why are you actually typing it

#

cease

unborn flicker
#

ok

#

after the last two areas

copper nacelle
unborn flicker
#

I will cease

copper nacelle
fair rampart
#

what does Ran

copper nacelle
#

Ran

fair rampart
#

RandoMapMod do

copper nacelle
#

shows randomizer stuff on the map

fair rampart
#

ok

#

lol

#

That + Randomizer 2 will probably make for a wild ride

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randomizer 2 seems not to work with me

silk jetty
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open a preexisting file

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then start a new file

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its a bug with the newest api

fair rampart
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k

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enemy randomizer still not working

copper nacelle
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unsurprising

unborn flicker
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enemy randomizer doesn't work

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objectively bad mod

fair rampart
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randomizer 2 i mean

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i mean its effects are not working at all

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there ARE no effects to me

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randomizers are fun

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i say

solemn rivet
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Open an existing save file, save and quit, then create a new save file

rain cedar
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I fixed that in the public randomizer already

solemn rivet
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Oh

unborn flicker
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It's probably seanprcore

silk jetty
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oh you did

rain cedar
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It's a dependency on the installer

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So if they don't have it, not my fault

solemn rivet
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It's always this seanpr guy's fault, whoever he is

fair rampart
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wait i have to use seanprcore too?

solemn rivet
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Use the installer

fair rampart
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yes

rain cedar
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My guess is the installer doesn't get dependencies on update

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Only on initial install

solemn rivet
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It doesn't sean

rain cedar
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So uninstall it and reinstall and it will add it

solemn rivet
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Because I figure there's no need to check for new dependencies if the mod hasn't been updated

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So it checks for mod updated instead

fair rampart
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i dunno ima go back to randomizer 1 its simpler

rain cedar
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My dude that's for 1221

fair rampart
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whot

charred parrot
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anyone have the HK FSM meme

fair rampart
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ok so the collector spawned in forgotten crossroads the first time i went in

silk jetty
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oh yeah, the collector completely breaks any room that you have to enter from the side or bottom in enemy rando

fair rampart
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well

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it was in the first room of crossroads sooo

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yeah

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rip

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turn on chaos

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i have lol

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chaos rerandomizes

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what does it do

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every time you enter the room

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yeah

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but

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bosses stay

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so collector won't always be there

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what does room mode do

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bosses don't stay the same on chaos

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room mode is all enemies of the same type with randomize to the same enemy but only per room

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normal is the same as room but it applies to every single room

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should i turn it off or on

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chaos will be best tbh

gilded lotus
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do you want it off or on

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if on, turn it on
if off, turn it off

fair rampart
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otherwise you will get collector locked

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i want as much chaos as i can get out of this mod

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chaos is always the right choice

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for chaos, on or off?

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room mode

gilded lotus
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i just answered this

fair rampart
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ima see the difference between off or on

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we just told you what they do

ornate rivet
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nathan you've been typing for an hour

fair rampart
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chaos: every enemy gets re-randomized every time you go through a room transition

normal: all enemies of the same type in the game will randomize to the same enemy and remain that way for the seed (example; if the crawlids in king's pass turn into volatile husks, then that applies to ALL crawlids in the game)

room: same as normal, but the randomization is isolated per room (example; if the tik tik in the first room of crossroads becomes a crystal crawler, the tik tik in the next room can still be something else, but the tik tik in that room will be the same every time)

solemn rivet
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He's already dead

fair rampart
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i have only been typing for 6 minutes

ornate rivet
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54 minute difference

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not a big deal

fair rampart
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NKG spawned in crossroads

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lmao

silk jetty
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oh yeah, if thk spawns somewhere and you beat him then you beat the game

fair rampart
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replaced the husk guard i assume

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yup

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hes down to 25%

solar jacinth
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bruh

fair rampart
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his FSM brain can't handle this complex terrain