#archived-modding-development
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I have a partner for alg top
i don't have to anymore 
for the pset due tomorrow morning I have done 6/7 problems
stream group projet
and he has done 0

i am in year 9 what are u talking about
there was a guy in my last year cs project who the teacher added to our group
he wrote 0 lines of code
literally 0
rip
now off I go
group projects make my soul die
he wrote so many that it overflowed to -1
hello khan
hi
k its only 5:43 pm here tho so ill go play some hk

yes -1
lame
20
@unborn flicker https://github.com/5FiftySix6/HollowKnight.RoomRandomizer
about -1 then
thanks!
the logic manager stuff needs to be reworked to actually not softlock you but the parsing stuff works
right
as it stands it only checks if you can get to a transition and not if going through the transition retains the validity of the path
wdym by validity?
like you'll be able to get from kp => greenpath_01
and then greenpath_01 => mines_01
and that's all cool and good
but from mines_01 you're just fucked
I see, yeah
when will room rando be released
That's something for the randomizer part to handle
I think I can take care of it, but we'll see
This will be highly experimental 

The one thing which kind of has me worried is L-shaped areas
Like if you add a left transition leading to an area whose only exit is down
but the only area with items is a right transition
I'm not sure I can make it always finish first try for that reason
but there's enough extra transitions that I think it would have a high success rate
Pog
what softwares are good for making art for hk mods
paint
galaxy brain
the same softwares that are good for making any digital art
a quick google search will help but usually photoshop, and there are several free high quality art programs
ok mr coding monkey
stfu art slave
bitch.
mods im being bullied
i don't think i care
foiled again
pretty much
mino, has saleh messaged you recently?
no
i think he's busy or avoiding bec he hasn't finished PC
probably both
i mean he's alive which is nice
i doubt he's avoiding, he doesn't seem like the one to care anyways
just tell him to release it quickly
smh
its just a single boss correct?
PC? yes
whats dis
pale lurker boss mod me and someone else are making
i mean he prolly could have finished it pretty quickly if he had time + if mino gave art quicker
shutup i had exams
it's almost like getting pinged more than once every day on a project you slowly lose motivation for isn't enjoyable
i spent like 8 hours nonstop finishing animations smh
yeah true
he got really tired of PC
u should tell him to make primal aspid, great hopper and pale king bosses
yea guess that's true
i just joke about it tho, i actually don't mind when it comes out
ye sid just wait until you see the next thing™ we do
i think the whole PC when joke is overused which can be annoying
finish PC first smh
PC is basically finished
all that's left are a few attacks and balancing
where can i get it when it comes out
it'll be on the installer
what one
pale champion
surprise the mod will be where all the other mods are
shocking
where
there is lightbringer already
ttaco was doing gun mod, right?
me and ttacco
i thought he quit or something :thonk:
no life has just been busy for him
imagine what we could get done if real life didn't exist
ok
yeah he's been busy with uni
sigh
lazy, cease
aw
go to sleep or something
no
lazy ||demo when||
please
demo legitimately by the end of this week
VERY NICE
anyways gn 
naw no point just going to go with black boxes
that looks uglier tho
yA wEll wHO's JoB is THaT
urs
yours because mino appears to have made the art
56 come make game
56 help me appropriate my own architecture
56 do my taxes
56 work on your group presentation
ew
yeet skeet
strange sofa
what is that
a sofa
museum exhibit cad
20th century war's effect on Japanese artistic expression through propaganda
interesting
wut
Gwchadmegathink
I hate when you have a problem that should be easy, except the professor did a terrible job of separating out what you're allowed to assume
Also, hooray for my partner continuing to ghost me an hour before class
(c) is corrected to be path homotopy. (b) is trivial from (a)
that's all I got
rip
(d) is done
(a) is giving me way too much trouble right now
tfw u were banking on an act of gradow to save ur pset and gradow goes offline
just @ him
nah, he saw it
gasp
my partner is online
2 minutes before I told him I wanted to submit the pset yesterday
however, he is not typing, so I don't think the situation has improved
oof
This is why I got a 105 on the midterm 😎
the average was a 70, so who really needs to be finishing this pset? 
chadmothety
this
that's right
?avatar homothety
gradow should get this reference now
🚴
sorry homothety, I'm not really familiar with alg top
never worked with them on a concrete setting
only abstract settings
like, what does it mean to be homotopic on c? A map from paths x [0,1] to F_2?
continuous map
I'm pretty sure it's up to path homotopy, i.e. fixing endpoints
yeah
https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/homotopy+in+a+model+category this is what I think of when someone says homotopy

you could ask the math discord
nah, I have a different class in 15 minutes
56 i've never seen you on the maths discord hmm
understandable
Time to abandon him to his fate
good luck oof
should be similar, homothety, because paths(X) is just C(I,X) and cyl(X) is just X x I, where I=[0,1]
and C is the continuous maps
if your category is sufficiently well-behaved, these are adjoint
kinda like a tensor-hom adjunction
or a cartesian closed category
mino I've asked all of one question there
i studied for half of my maths exam from there tbh
ok
i mean all i learned was basic calc so didn’t really need extra help
I just found this on my phone. This book is an absolute unit, btw
? ?
Eww
Point set topology 
thanks
I saved it in December for when I would get wr in hk again, but then I didn't use it for some reason
do you have a wr in hk?
I have like 7 or so
only 1-2 of which are real
I had any% nmg through February and March though
o nice
right now I just have all skills and low%
mino, your summer break started, right?
🦀 biology is dead 🦀
gone*
now I can spend all my time on real classes, like homology, measure, and history
😩
what is this nitro boost stuff
another stupid discord "feature"
basically subscribing to servers for the server to get more bandwidth and features, like more emotes, higher upload caps, higher VC bitrates, etc
requires buying the 10 dollar a month one too
¯_(ツ)_/¯
No
all I know is that it's the easiest way to get a colored role in this server
ya its like 50 separate for level 3
inb4 benji and simo make nitro booster colorless
this
they can
who's the noob that bought 1
see #hk-discussion lol
oh
I think we have most of the features
besides the upload limit
and emoji slots
we don't even get the upload limit until 10 people do it
which might happen I dunno but this place never seemed like it had enough of a community for that.
great now we can directly upload the modding-api 
thank god for those hooks making it 12 times bigger
?whois
lots
?serverinfo
Simo#4622
us-east
5
39
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23000
22997
3
6150
16
@everyone, Admins, Bots, Mods, Speedrun.com Mods, Muted, Art Staff, Team Cherry, Modding Staff, Zote, the Mighty, Racer, Dyno, Speedrunner, Now Live, Muted #livestreams, Nitro Booster
nice
22997 isn't exactly 23k
did I stutter?
I mean, out of 23k, 10 will likely boost
people in art channels may be more likely to boost too
since they upload huge images
and I'm in the lutris server and they're at 6 boosters already with 2k users which is insane because ostensibly people using lutris get nothing out of 10 dollar nitro
since discord games are windows exclusive.
every other server I'm in is at 0
or 1
I mean I'm in a server with 25 people online at a time
and it'll probably get it whenever they realise
they all buy nitro anyway for shitty emotes
might aswell do it in that server where they can get any emote they want approved
money
does boosting fill a bar and the bar goes down day by day?
and needs more boosts to sustain itself?
its current nitro users
or what
who used your server as a "referral"
If I liked discord as a company I'd be happy they're doing this but I don't.
lol I just mentioned it
money 😻
already got 2 people to do it
but tbh I'm longing for the day it goes the way of google plus or skype
because that's the only way software gets better
is by the monopolies getting crushed
well not always, I mean there's the epic store as a counterexample
but generally that's how software gets better
yes it worked out great for streaming platforms too
are you sure you dont want everything owned by Disney, Apple and Google?
we need 10 for level 2
i believe
better voice is interesting
nothing wrong with a single competitor as long as they don't leverage their position to prevent competition and become anti-consumer
cough intel cough
you already have better voice
the server is partnered
Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:
- Open the Terminal
- Type
cd $(dirname - Drag the exe onto the terminal.
- Type
)then hit Return/Enter - Type
mono --arch=32(Note the space at the end) - Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter
If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then
- install mono here
- Open a new terminal window
- Type/paste in
export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH}and hit Return/Enter - Repeat steps 2-6 above.
I think this is how I'll do the xml formatting
it doesn't seem like too much trouble relative to the number of entries
xml 
xml is easy though
I probably have a twisted view of things though
So much of my work is in fsms that I prefer going into fsmviewer to dnspy
json is also easy
but i think xml does work well with that you are storing, it's more clear
that's what i do as well
true
if anyone can make a mod for healthbars on a boss pls make it
casual
there already exists a boss hp bar mod\
can u send me it
sigh
sigh indeed
Generic and overused request for hollow knight 2 player
it was being worked on
but got abandoned
i think theyll continue it some time in the future but as of now we dont have plans
wait it was a serious possibility?
yea but local coop
Ok thats legitimately sad
also about your name hyped for ori2 stuff at e3
Actually, it's completely unrelated to ori2
My usal tag is something like origamer, (Origami, one of my pastimes + gamer) but i've shortened it to stuff like orimer or just ori for some games. Anyway, ori4thewin is just another modification of my original origamer tag
oh ic
Although i am SUPER hyped for ori2, so I guess the name works multiple ways
how often do you get asked about your name 
Surprisingly, not very much!
pensive well see ya
See ya
if youre still active when coop is continued to be worked oni most likely will talk about it in other channels so
ill make coop to steal the thunder ebic style
coop hollow knight would be amazing, and I'd play the heck out of it.
maybe i could find some testing footage for you
@upper niche heres some of that https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/551135673654968321/2019-03-01_15-13-20_Trim.mp4
saleh and 56 iirc
Wow! That looks so clean! 
did they ever handle room transition or it didnt get that far?
Well if the mod ever gets continued, then sign me up to be a beta tester! 
looking through the code rn, doesn't seem like it ttacco
You don't need to
That's why the go is tagged
Transitions check collisions on gos and filters by tag and layer
So it works
for either player?
yeah
what happens if you room dupe
you don't
What's the best way to adapt my bitmask to work for more than 64 bits?
From what I've read it seems like bigintegers may be performance intensive?
it's annoying that there's no integer equivalent of a double
I don't think longlong is available in c#, or I can't find it anyways
yeah, that sounds best
Could implement your own longlong
hm, that might be easier. I feel like trying to tag the different components of the logic for two ints would overcomplicate things
The main issue is you wouldn't be able to do assignments with longlong numbers
Like you couldn't do longlong x = 9223372036854775808;
because there wouldn't be an implicit integer conversion?
Yeah
You could add an implicit that handles anything under that is all
Which is probably more than enough for your purposes
yeah, I think I need around ~130 bits in storage, but I shouldn't ever have to assign something like that
Operators are super easy
public static longlong operator|(longlong left, longlong right)
{
return new longlong(left.first | right.first, left.second | right.second);
}
ah, neat
couldn't you also add an implicit operator?
o right, you can't really do longlong with implicit, i get what you meant now
Sid you watching hyouka
i finished it, yes
in one night as well :^)
i was excepting you to know it since it's before you stopped watching anime
56 got nitro :pog:
Ok 50MB upload limit for everyone on the server is incredible
If we get level 2 boost
that would be sweet
Actually useful feature 
prolly the only one
It's only 10 boosts for that, it'll easily happen
we all know the audio thing is a joke
discord audio will always be bad regardless
opus music on discord when 
it only lasts as long as people renew
and as soon as people realise no one gives a shit about them boosting a server with 23k people in it they'll stop
it only works with the better nitro tho (forgot it's name)
doesn't work with classic
which is quite dumb
i mean the feature does literally nothing for anyone on the server
art
More emotes is kinda cool I guess
But yeah not a great incentive
yes all 23k people are artists
also
and modders
no
I like banners
no it's not
don't we already have those features
for being partner
this just in, we also have better voice channel quality
if so we should be using them
we also have a vanity url
i think partners are really not liking this as it undermines the benefits of being a partner guild
literally any decent sized guild can get these boosts
only thing we get from it are emote slots and upload limits afaik
@royal ridge Bruh do we have the ability to have a banner and animated icon because we're partners?
you definitely get a banner
do people have their channels disappear?
I keep having half of speedrunning just cease to exist
neither of those are due to partner
banner is verified and animated is server boosted
even lower than partner
oh wait verified is above partner
alright then boys time to bother art people for banner and animated icon
we have animated icon available but nothing to put there
Animated icon sounds annoying
it only works when you hover
only animates on hover
ye we'd do something like that lazy, we're only 3 off of banner
or this
we have a custom banner in #rules-and-info which could work too
without the text which i have
the banner is a really strange feature to promote to people already in the server
oh this?
as you see it when you click on the link afaik
kk cool
I mean I guess it also does this
Death's Gambit 
because Celeste is garbage
but ya benji maybe you could use that one Silksong animated background as a gif for the icon
1 sec
let me find it
we were just gonna edit soul/fire coming across the background of the current image
just to not be too over the top
you could just put particles over the top of it, like the main menua
ye essentially that
why does my speedrunning keep doing this 😠
I don't have any muted, it just hides the bottom 60% of channels
quality client
server splash background is actually useless
only the elite server members can access them
wtf
It's only happened twice and they come back as soon as I switch channel
happens everytime a change server and come back
Yeah it happened for me on switches too
any anything that refreshes the bar fixes it
just this guild?
guild 🤔
haha guys we use GAMER terminology 🤓
seems fine in other servers
ye discord is gamers
G gay
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the godly emote is here
he has arrived
this is amazing 

it has to be HK related, right?
is the ultimate modding idea response
wish we could add tentacles too


No.
Smh my friends commission me and are like hey mino dont worry about it we know youre busy and then sid here is like mino. draw. me. tentacles
I never signed up for the fancult
that's what you think
ok
radiance tentacles owo
nooooo
alright i will stop
you said you were visiting MIT for biotech comp?
Yeah
when
ya ik i was joking
I was about to fall asleep, but then I thought of a much better way to randomize than the one I had yesterday 
The difficulty is that it's hard to fill areas and items together without one of the two becoming very nonrandom or contrived, I think
But the solution is just to handle areas first, with a test placement of progression items during generation which witnesses that the map is fully completable/accessible
Then discard that placement and use the full item randomizer from scratch after all transitions are determined
so that you have the benefit of not having to chase down some linear path given by the first algorithm
sounds good
woah

which server is this dang
what's wrong with the 41 people who boosted after 50
this tbh
yo bino if ur still intereested im (trying) to make it now
ey guys
i got some of my friends to help me make not a mod, but a whole game from scratch
they said fine so we agreed on making it
now the hard part
@floral furnace !! YES
makeing it
cool
also ttacco boy
what engine are ya gonna use barsheep
2 people commissioned me for art out of the blue and i need to sort that out + me and lazy stuff so ill get back to u in a few hrs
that cool?
again, put my shit on low prio 
probably unity idk
ill try recording the movement then
actually just to make it simple to you i guess i just need an AT4 and an AK47 sprite for now, but ill do the green screen thing in a moment
guys whats your game called
and where can i get it when it releaes
maybe you can ask lazy? they know unity stuff
uhhhhhhh places™
oki
yeah lazy knows a lot about unity
who is lazy?
i mean we're still in a lot of preproduction stuff and getting into production
@charred parrot
this man
cool
question mino do you need the walking animations on both sides?
nope
what dimension again?
resolution*
too late made it my max screen res
oh yeah i forgot to change the z level
Z level is green, Zygarde is green, Pokémon Z confirmed.
hmmmm
those hollywood blockbusters are only filmed with green screens nowadays smh 😔
i have no fucking idea how to shrink the capture size cuz im bad at OBS but am i doing it right mino
sure
ty
but wouldnt you like, prefer if i shrink it first
yeap
this looks better now right? cuz if so im dropping it to you
also file name has 56 in it
he - he - he
yoosoof's influence
it's muslim christmas today so ill be a bit slow but honestly as long as i have stuff to work on ill keep working on it
you just need to worry about the actual programming stuff
take ur time, ur not even getting 🅱aid for this 
am i getting paid in exposure tho
but ofcourse
ughh stag station crossroad has this lighting thats probably in the fore ground which is ruining the capturing
oof
i mean
i can just take the colour from the actual sprites
just need outlines
yeah
understandable
have a nice day
i could but i lack 🌈 🇨 🇷 🇪 🇦 🇹 🇮 🇻 🇮 🇹 🇾 🌈
this entire chat is free real estate for unsolicited modding ideas
how many new charms are we doing anyways
all of them at least, well not all of them has to change a huge thing, but i dont wanna leave them out too
OH YEAH now i remember i forgot to fix the entire wall climb thing
why does he have a rifle
gun mod
what
yep
why
why not?
how does it work
@floral furnace you know the exact mechanics
like just in general
ughhh its literally just like lightbringer but with guns
basically
does it replace the nail
well no, but you can swap from nail
oh thats cool
its dumb (which is the entire point) but yeah the various fanarts of hollow knight characters holding guns was asking for it
wdym it's glorious
Do rocket jumps instead of nail pogo
someone will have to animate that
sigh
imagine responding to twitter dms and not shitposting on every tweet i make
imagine releasing pale champion 
How much for nsfw drawings of 56's PP?
I am very interested in this
See?


I spent hours beating his pp
It was hard, and long
But very satisfying in the end
It completely destroyed me
You could say it tore me a new one
Dew eet mino
For the people
no.
For the money then
pay me $6900 and i will consider it
I'll pay you in exposure then
youre not adding pocket lint to the payment thats why mino wont accept it
clearly it is that
and not the fact that it's illegal also i'm not a complete degenerate yet 
omegalul saleh is actually here on the server
lmao haliitti returns
wild

hal can i have you autograph
modders can u make an ifnite health mod
@floral furnace this is a graph with an auto I guess
LMAO
Draw nsfw guns then
seriously tho
a rocket jump mechanic would be awesome
possibly replacing the djump
kinda like screw attack in metroid games
gradow dish out other cool gun mod ideas
bec me and ttacco have no creativity after school's ended
replace claw with a aimable hookshot
make a new platforming arena 
but like
would you be able to latch onto enemies and shit
that would completely break combat and traversal
push them onto you, yeah
tbf it is a mod
yeah fair
there was some really cool artwork that kinda inspired this whole thing but boy would a whole reskin be much more work than i would ever do
and I don't mean a ESA-like hookshot, but more a Zelda hookshot
that automatically pulls you closer
oh shit
what would you do charm wise?
that's what I'm thinking of...
maybe add properties to the shots?
kinda like BoI
bouncy, splitting etc.
make it shoot mini watcher knights
actually, considering HK geometry, better not have reflecting shots
lmao
I thought of like, having them bounce on walls and shit
how about
making the summoned fellas also have mini guns
someone will have to draw and animate this
you
i mean this is just animating from scratch
or wait do you mean glowing womb mini knights
uhh
no I want flies and spiders and grimmchild shooting with guns
wait
I don't get what you mean
I just want to give Glowing Womb, Grimmchild and weaverlings some usefulness
aaaah that makes sense
but like
wouldn't it work the exact same way as rn
just a reskin
my best build that helped me beat the radiance used grimmchild and weaverlings
👍 cool
in general it was an afk build cuz i was really bad at using time to hit with the nail xD
that's cool but this is modding 🤔
but glowing womb is useless. i do agree with that.
ya fair
gradow, get mino to draw gun with tentacles
pay me
ttacco is the nicest person to work with tbh
stuff with saleh for whenever he finished mistborn and pale champion
gotta recolour marmu spikes for you
gun mod w/ ttacco
maybe some stuff of my own

guns
mino
how much for some tentacle art
seriously tho
how much for sprites of that tentacly knight that kills the radiance?
but, like I've said, I do plan on adding it as a playable character for blackmoth
ooo\
or just the usual true ending
cease
you can strip that off of the game sprites, no?
i see
sad
that's the plan all along

just looking for a convenient excuse
insert grandma laugh
now whenever i play celeste the grandma laugh reminds me of gradow
should I play some more celeste?
oh yeah
sure
i just finished it today
i still need to buy it
I'll see if I stream it tonight then
v nice
sad news
this was followed by a block of text of saleh going on about mistborn
nice
ye he just wanted to take a break from discord because he kept on wasting time here
which i get
same but like 2 weeks ago
ok
no u
tell him we banner bois now
tell him you posted some nsfw art here
sigh
THIS IS AMINOCA
DON'T CATCH YOU SLIPPIN' UP
DON'T CATCH YOU SLIPPIN' UP
LOOK WHAT I'M WHIPPIN' UP
THIS IS AMINOCA
DON'T CATCH YOU SLIPPIN' UP
DON'T CATCH YOU SLIPPIN' UP
LOOK WHAT I'M WHIPPIN' UP
THIS IS AMINOCA.
sigh
cease
i think he told me that he left this discord last year because of his exams
prolly same kind of thing but different reason
i don't exactly get the reason this time but ok
he doesn't even talk here much
can't argue with that
Knight confirmed for Smash
hm
50 builds ago I told myself there couldn't possibly be anymore typos
the animation is really good too
Kyoani god tier tbh
clamp
ok

This is me eating ALL of the logic typos
Obviously, since there are no more errors in the modlog, the logic is now perfect
suuuure
that's a philosophy I like to take with modding as well 
no
oof




what does this mean
it means that Mantis_Claw did not give progression!

more precisely, it means that the mantis claw bit had been flipped before mantis claw was placed
only if you start your indices from 1 
I do
what does this entail
ur banned
it means that homothety can't code
only a sicko would start indices at 1
ur cancelled
it entails that homothety is going to have to continue to code
I'm actually gonna report you to discord trust & safety team, for such a discusting concept as starting arrays at 1
arrays start at 47
arrays should start at Array.Length
where do i need to put the dll that i am wrapping around?
i am getting dllnotfoundexception
Probably Managed or Mods
I think the dlls the game uses extern for are in managed
yea tried that, didn't work
ok, it was a real dumb bug 
I copypasted addobtainedprogression and renamed it to removeobtainedprogression, but I forgot to actually change it

yes i am
i don't know what's wrong, i even looked up where DllImport looks for the dll
apparently it's something like working directory, PATH, system directories
unless it's different for unity stuff
Unity docs say Assets/Plugins
there is no assets folder tho since the game is already built
yea the docs for the lib i am wrapping also says to put it in Assets/Plugins for unity implementation
can't you specify a path?
i mean i looked into it, it doesn't seem that easy
it seems like i can get it to look somewhere else
but i don't know why i need to do that
u check stackoverflow?
i did



