#archived-modding-development
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bad meme
@ornate rivet give me pale champion
Okay, one day i will get it.
i should probably finish the music for it
I thought you did 
i did
hmm
but for the game i need to break it up into parts
fair
esp for what you're doing for it
what is he doing
things
nou
yes
maybe if he finishes it youll find out ๐
you are making me angry just tell it already
very angery
3rd statue slot?
yeah
Even harder PV mod coming up
incredible
very nice
i think you can go up to like 7.3
i need a good selection method for godlynightmares
maybe i should have another statue for it
with 7 statue slot 
btw what are you working on? ๐
overhauling a mod
Pale God of Battle
but 3 of them
overhauling charm overhaul 
finishing PC cause saleh wont 

no
wdym no
that's perfect
should be at tof geo reward :^)
so i destroyed the fsm control for markoth's nail that also controlled the audio for the nail spawn, does anyone know what i can use to to play the audio without using the fsm?
beautiful, time to make this impossible
the 56 way
Just look at the FSM you destroyed
Reasons why I don't want to play your randomizer. Exhibit A
I think the action is AudioPlayClip or something
And look at what it does
Wtf Mick rude
this is some pog stuff
Way to not even read what I wrote
so what goes there. geo? a charm?
Hmmm, right now I'm leaning towards replacing the long items with Arcane Eggs and Charm Notches randomly
The geo pickups don't work well with the essence and grub tolls
But there's a menu setting to control whether they are fully randomized
which defaults to replacing them with bonus items
so if you turn on that setting you can get ch at trial 2?
Yeah, probably
pog
gross
I'm going to have to take out the EVERYTHING logic because that breaks the randomizer's failsafe check
yea it's AudioPlayClip, but how do i use it when i destroyed the fsm? 
In fact, I suspect that if you tried to use that setting on the current build, it would freeze for a few seconds until it randomly put geo chests at WP and Grubberfly
instead of randomizing shit just make every geo piece at the end of colo 3 an item and make colo 3 accessible with nothing
perfect mod
or crash if you didn't randomize geo chests
I honestly haven't checked because randomizing those locations isn't a huge priority
For the same reason I'm going to go on faith that what I typed in will work for Colo1 and Grimm, because I don't feel like testing a feature 1% of people will use
yeet skeet
so
var asrc = nail.GetComponent<AudioSource>();
asrc.PlayOneShot(clip);
that's pretty simple
take the prefab off the fsm
spawn at a random location
get rand clip
play
oh it's not even a random location it's a given
ye
Idk why they don't just leave an inactive prefab there and activate it as-needed
i forgot you could just get it directly from the fsm 
nice
if you want you could even just leave their array as-is and use their helper instead of using your own method w/ an actual array
now to overhaul a mod so entirely that i rename it 
wdym by use their helper?
ActionHelpers.GetRandomWeightedIndex
i see
So here's a (subject to change) sketch of how I'm thinking about handling long items:
Tier 4: Grubberfly
Tier 3: Colo2, Grub goals above 23 grubs, Essence goals above 900 essence, King Fragment
Tier 2: Grey Mourner, Colo1, Grimm
Tier 1: Queen Fragment, Pale Lurker, Godtuner, Collector's Map
Tier 0: Everything else
Default would allow T0 and T1
Hmmm, this settings menu is going to require an info panel or something, though, probably
Just got home. Wut did I miss today?
๐ I forgot grey mourner gives something
you missed everything
flower is not randomized, but the mask shard is
_< I'm stupid, ignore me
removed locations just increase the shop count though
nice, tc uses mage knight (soul warrior)'s audio stuff for markoth's nail
thank you tc, very cool
@solemn rivet anyways you didn't miss anything except that i finished titles 
is this #hk-lore ?
I was actually considering changing profile pic to tuk
Or wait is that Leg Eater 
Now I've confused myself
where could I put code to log when the timer is stopped
thwarted, yet again, by the fact that the save settings dict is <item, location>
so duplicate items make everything explode
hmmm, I could fix it, or I could just add 20 bonus arcane egg entries to the item xml
this the optimal long item system. You may not like it, but this is what peak scalability looks like
ctrl v is my weakness ๐ค I just can't help myself near it ๐ค
๐ค
o 56, i don't really even need the random weighted index since there's only one item in the array 

are you randomizing the charm notch at the ogre shrooms or whatever?

No, I just randomized the others, that one seemed like it was in a good spot already
doing quirrel

I have separate flags for masks/vessels/ore/notches in the code, but it'll probably be one "minor items" toggle in the menu, to conserve space
At least pending a larger overhaul
o btw did you get the vessel to work?

I'm still half convinced it's going to break on the last fragment again
That's so annoying to test
I'm also a little worried that I'll forget to take out the room which gives you a mask, the room which gives you 5 grubs, etc

if you have a monobehaviour that's always running update you can use if(Input.GetKey(KeyCode.Alpha3)) or something to easily set stuff for fast testing
oh interesting, I'll keep that in mind
the scenenames switch is really easy to insert lines into, though, so that's normally my goto for shortterm stuff
I think the most egregious "I-don't-care" part of this last update was when I decided to just put the Mawlek item in the right corner of the room, rather than try and mess with its fsms
Everything else seems decent so far, but I also haven't tested much at all
Oh, I guess also Grey Mourner is semi-functional, so I'm not asking questions there either 
btw homothety, while I wait for this to finish
would you be interested in reading my masters' thesis if I translated it to english?
or used the poorly translation on it
use the poorly translation and translate back to Portuguese then submit that as your final draft
can someone do the voice over for royal dreamer's attack? :^)
gradow, idk what to do next
wdym
we don't have many left
Sure, that'd be cool
I'd need to prep on Representation Theory tho--my algebra is shoddy to say the least
are we doing credits or no?
it's mainly just names tho
@copper nacelle i passed out at a reasonable time last night. what third statue were you asking about?
Oh wait i thought it was an art thing lmao nvm
no was just joking
go to sleep mino
Just woke up
yes and?
pog
just these 5 to go
Ill do hunter in a few minutes
??
What?
Quieres?
เคเฅเคฏเคพ?
i understand that, Devanagari characters
whats happening?
no i don't 
mino, should i do hunter as well?
Seeing as i havent dragged myself out of bed yes
you mean godly*
Sorry a slight slip of the hand
Gradow time is ticking
Markoth when

translation nightmares mod when
Thats just my life in about three years zaliant
jokes on you i am not either
I'm good at pretending tho

i let 56 write all my code for me
This tbh
jokes on you the only thing i am is a failure
jokes on you i am the god of failure
no
lmao
Hmmm
I don't control them ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Sigh
I actually thought that did something when I first used discord
Not making markoth
I remember cycling through so my message would be happy
lol
nice
gn folks, time to actually get some sleep 
lmao look at this guy
going to sleep at a good time
and getting good rest
lmfaoo
Night sid
i mean it's 12 am, it's still kinda late
technically can be early
since i would be going to sleep early in the morning
Big brain thoughts
i wan die
edge
ye
mi too
guys
lets play a game
the rules are simple
we all have in total 25000 life points
we use words to attack , curse words dont do damage so you have to be unique
for example "north korea" triggers a explosion that deals 2500 damage
mega offtopic
true , im just super bored
play silksong smh
oh god now I want a soul blast retexture that says north korea
XD
also silk song isn't out yet right?
or atleast I dont have access to it since its probably a thing for the donators who helped build the game
i didnt have a laptop around the time hollow knight was developing so i think thats the case
I attack sugar by using NORTH KOREA
it is out
๐
what world are you living in
[XD]
it is
nope isn't it
out
its tba
gog
use gog
Sugar is just trolling lmao
can ya send me the link to it?
sure
[ik he is i want to play along i checked gog ages ago XD]

oh oof
didnt mean to put that into chat so you knew t he troll failed
soz bruvvah
oh la oof its gone
Stop

that reminds me i was gonna make a retexture that made soul blast into first blast north and void blast korea
@copper nacelle stop this guy , the guard of the #archived-modding-development 
hmmm
im surprised nobody has made a remix using night mare kings theme and the radiance theme

idk why , i just think it`d sound cool
just imagen hearing the call of the radiance and the bells of nightmare king grimms theme
and when it gets mid way it`d probably sound good

stop pls
kk`s
time to check out deaths gambit , i really hope that dlc lands soon
Oh noice they made the dlc into the beta so far
welp time to go into deaths gambits beta to test these new skills out
yes pls
wow modding got more off topic than usual
oh and dont worry im thinking about modding now
speaking of modding
what's your hot fresh modding idea
anybody know the developer of void walker
cause i have a few new void based ideas
my ideas are: soul blast retextured into a void tendril . the void variant just shoots 3
modding is a lot of effort, and most mod makes aren't willing to put in the effort for someone elses ideas
but that sounds interesting
the downward break is a nightmare king grimm like uppercut
@royal ridge i see you and your cherry madness smh
and it does the normal descent when it is airborne
you would need new art for this as well
abyss shriek would work like the hollow knight boss `s attack
where you scream upwards and projectiles fire outwards to the sides
instead of just upwards
and last idea , the heal would have a black orb on it that upon breaking if your healing restores soul
unfortunately im terrible at drawing
i cant even draw a straight line correctly so theres no way id be able to draw the ideas im making
hire an artist
well you'd need an animator
and a programmer assuming you can't code yourself
sure
time to go to the meme bois disc
wow he worked fast
he already made a tendril animation
oh wow he just posted another 1 that shows it working on multiple enemies and pulling them in after it hits
thats much better then what i was thinking heheheh
ill try to get it on here
sure
if i cant ill inform you
truly unfortunate
dont trust edited messages
๐ค just curious how much longer are you gonna joke around
oh meh , i got the whole home alone
im probably either gonna randomly talk to others on disc , play games or fall asleep till 9 am again

why not is the real question
wtf
for me life is a blessing and a curse
@copper nacelle help
I've already warned you my guy I suggest stopping
banned
soz im so new to disc ive rarily speaked on even a simple group wall
check the name of this channel
also modding idea , this is a idea for the red wing mod , retexture the void blast to a red blast so that the fire damage makes sense , i dont see why the void "a liquid" would burn people
boss scills
also a glitch that super helpful in the red wing mod
i can guarantee that wont happen lol
if you have the broken nail and hit a enemie once and then leave them they die instantly after

i used it to clear Steel soul mode
very cool ๐
it works on boss `s to
huge help against NKG
not so helpful on radiance
as it has phases and after the first hit the kill abilitys gone
and it doesn't remain until its dead
it inflicts it in certain time and then ends
56 is gonna be pissed when he has to scroll up a fuck ton to find anything modding related lmao
oh wait i got a idea
lets just copy paste the modding ideas down here to make life easy for him
hey omni, please stop
Dude can you just stop I don't want to have to mute you
if you got that many modding ideas you can learn modding and do them yourself
^^^^
giving out modding ideas is something that is unwanted here
unless you are willing to put in effort to make them
we're happy to help, but not do everything
kk noice
theres a reason why people make copypaste mod suggestions as a joke
oh ok
it's like
when you ask someone to do free art for you
and it's like dude this is going to be hours of my life
like R/choosingbeggars?
essentially
meanwhile i'm trying to get people to take me for free and i cant even do that lol
i did
true lel
you are my composer
but ye if you're interested in genuinely learning how to do modding
feel free to stick around
but i mean i guess it's about building up a "resume" in the mean time
zaliant ill bother you for lurien
anyways ima look at the roblox game crab champions , why it was made no clue but it exists
๐
You got any works to show rn Zali?
Wouldn't mind networking with a few composers
remaking my character's body
oh nice dude
looks noice
i should finish pale champion aaaa
1 question tho , why is it made with a bit of the radiance?
i didnt do anything 
me and saleh have a checklist we need to finish soon oof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3eRbdkwxDg
https://puu.sh/Dxs2S/c96d639141.mp3
https://puu.sh/Dxs39/e6dab2af62.mp3
https://streamable.com/919vp (music)
a lot of it is just little tidbits or remix's of something, tbh idk much about music so i'm mostly just doing stuff as i go lmfao
Ah yea I remember hearing that Garmond track a while back it was really good!
I'll give the others a listen now
You got some really good stuff there! If we're ever looking for music I'll keep you in mind
mostly its me just playing with stuff while i learn diff things so i have some hands on applying what i learn
i just learned what a major /minor chord is like 3 days ago lmfao
:D
i still dont know and you're fine
and the music you make is still really good
you need bleeps and boops
benji if you guys ever need some art help i might be up o/
though auwren is more than capable
The funny thing is I was already doing stuff that Iโm learning. Iโm just now understanding what Iโm doing besides โhurrdurr sounds goodโ
Yea sick I'll keep you in mind mino, just depends where we decide to take the project I suppose
good luck
We donโt need luck where weโre headed ๐ค
yeehaw
๐ค
currently to do maths
in texas
Mino only talks to me now that Iโm famously known by banjo ๐
Yeah Bangalore the add mint
unless you have a coloured name you basically don't exist
Actually true
I guess the exception would be cranky to the masses
?rank Speedrunner
That rank doesn't exist.
๐
Not to undermine others of similar achievements but heโs just the most well known
Btw how come there arenโt like โmodderโ roles? Or is that a terrible idea
there is modding staff
Ik. Besides them
hey benji hot fresh new idea for the server
Like thereโs speed runners and the .com mods
Speedrunner role exists to talk in the channels, they used to be hidden they also get pinged for rule changes and what not when they used to happen
Make a modding role and give everyone with the modding role a modding off-topic channel ๐ค
More importantly sr-offtopic
We make a modder role and people will @ modder cherrymadness when, other than that doesn't really serve a purpose
i don't think splitting modding as many different ways as speedrunning is split up is the solution
yeah true
if anyone has a modding question they can just @ 56 incessantly
but the fancey colour 
Yeah thereโs no real reason for a modding role
What if I need to share with someone my cool modding idea
Even my legit ideas get shut down
which one?
i mean you can collaborate w/ people
No one gonna go out of their way to make a mod they donโt wanna
Just cause other ppl want it
If you did youโd have Saleh
financial compensation duh
nah saleh's not programming my modding ideas
or at least not the lurien fight/figuring out how to add a new area
The joke being that everyone wants PC and asks him when
But itโs still hilarious even though it annoys him
thank god no one asks me about this even though im a 1/3 of PC's backlog
ya it's great
I have soundtrack splitting to do for it
But Iโm just waiting on him for it cause itโll take me like 15 minites
Cause if thereโs anything Iโm good at
Itโs waiting til the last minute to do something
same
also if it takes me longer I pay off cranky to say itโs bad in testplay to delay it longer so I have time
Iโm big brain
The one thing I hate is I showed it to a friend and they said it was like something youโd hear at a pep rally by the marching band
And ever since I heard her say that itโs all I can imagine and now I hate the PC music lmao
Iโm going to sleep before I shit up the chat further and make 56 have an aneurism
@ 56
every fucking time i see the number 56 my first thought is always "hey i know someone named 56 lol"
dae 56 meme
Get that file, open it, find the name of the mod you want and install it
@fair rampart
yea
ok
ye
yea
yes
thanks for help
You're welcome 
saleh pc when
now
Finish pale champion so we can make bara night mod
finish pale champion so we can satisfy
can someone help me? i cant get rid of randomizer mod for some reason
Did you try uninstalling it?
so, how to actually get started with modding. any resources?
you mean like install mods or make?
make^^
theres an documentation but its a bit incomplete on some parts, that and its mostly reading the source from other mods
im fine with that, i'd just like to know how to get something in some development environment to read some code to get started.
you got the doc somewhere?
i didnt find it in the pins
thanks
Yet another mathematician modder smh
lol
red
awwww thank you <3 @gilded lotus
@hollow hearth but why
Why
according to the researches from california university , it is , once and for all it is impossible to make your knight red , HOW?!
Is there any reason for me to keep VS if I have Rider (besides the incredible WPFs VS makes)?
costing money
temporarily
i also took the free thing but still didnt use it /shrug
for some reason it was kinda slower than VS, maybe just a personal experience
well this is unfortunate
does the nail dmg from bonfire mod increase the damage of the lightbringer mod ?
no they dont interract afaik?
dont combine big mods
good morning
i see i missed some interesting conversation with devil here
Morning
Good morning sir
i woke up at 5 yesterday
5 what
but this time I went to sleep at 4 and woke up now
5 pm? 
5am
good
Imagine living in america
mino, it seems like you're always awake
Oof ill be visiting america i cant make this joke then
i woke up at like 3 am today for some reason, watched some youtube videos and went back to sleep
hmm
hmm
very nice
much good
Im not coming to VA tho i have some really good friends in VA
where
incredible
very cool
truly
if only you had come last summer

I mean i might end up in the US anyways
if i get enough aid
fund my way to college via furry art commissions
furry commissions? 
Yes.
explain
no
When have i ever not been cursed

Countdown to pale champion approximately UTC+0 5am 30th may
Saleh schools over for you right
ye
so as soon as i send in the anims youll implement them
school is over yet he doesnโt make any progress
Ill actually send in the oblobobbles throwing in one in like a few hrs
like?
Yeah he has made progress dw sid
Hole
kill me
is the obolobbles part like an actual attack?
Ye
very nice
I'm trying to send a picture of a character I want you to draw lewd but it wont send
sigh
Thank god
mino
Sid
i need your art skills for dating sim soonโข
but this is the best modding community tho :^)
where else can you find mods like 56โs PP and fan games like HK datin sim?
Oh, was 56 here when that guy couldn't access WD in rando?
I was wondering if there was a flag for him which might be skipped with the dreamer cutscene skip
how much for drawing her nude mino
it's based on how much skin there is (or at least what discord thinks is skin)
I think
I've posted screenshots of darkmode discord that have gotten flagged
Nsfw filters will always be sucky. Twitter flagged my art as nsfw lmao
imagine giving a shit about children

Yep
lol

๐
Its a pretty fun game
You should, Celeste is great.
when there is silk song
Imagine buying games for robots and not yourself.
Red

Why is Herobrine so scary. Is it because he spawns deadly animals? Is it because he gives you nightmares? IS it because he makes TNT traps? Or is it because he uses all those abilities to kill you. Herobrine was actually a Steve. So Steve and Notch were mining in one dark night where night terrors wait to nibble on your flesh or eat you alive or eat your brains. Steve kept mining and mining stone waiting for diamond until he gave up. Then he decided to mine one more block and just found diamond. He was so happy. Then a creeper creeped up behind him and blew up! He lost all his diamonds. Notch just ran out of the cave and left him there to blow up. So Steve came back as a ghost to find Notch and kill him. The only reason Herobrine would haunt a player is because they disturbed Herobrine from finding Notch. Once a player has killed Herobrine, they are forever safe from him unless the player disturbs the clones Herobrine made to keep the search on. Notch thought Herobine was a fake myth created by hackers and it ended up being true. He is watching you No kidding. Herobrine has also stole my stuff. He stole my diamond sword, my diamonds, and some of my wooden planks. BE AWARE!!!
has it?
I think homothetyโs been studying so theres been no modding talk
I guess sleeping could be construed as studying
unfortunately, my book is as unread as it was when I went to sleep ๐
Who needs sleep anyways
Sleep schmeep
Gm gradow
Isn't it like 4 lines of code
system.xml makes this omega free
we donโt store it as xml tho
itโs just name : text
so basic string manipulation
i think itโs faster too
Hey dudes; best example of modAPI's canvas tools where? I'm less sick now but i think a huge part of my brain came out my nose
debug
oh yeah durp
boss rush
benchwarp ๐
Although that's redundant since benchwarp is just plagiarized debug
DebugMod code isn't recognizing stuff from UnityEngine dll reference... tf? Visual Studio what are you doing
i mean its just removal of boilerplate, to make it pretty similar to how it is in actual unity
oh
coremodule
weird that ref wasn't in there before though
this is why you don't spread your namespaces across DLLs
DebugMod appears to use the Unity stuff directly
isn't the homothety rando exhibition today? What channel is that on?
yea its today, i think the channel will be announced in #races-announcements or #livestreams
sick thanks ๐
tho the race will be restreamed iirc
I don't want to miss it
very nice
exhibition in the sense that the randomizer got updated
it will be on hollow knight speedruns
and its "new for everyone"
in about 30 minutes
very nice
why would 56 lie about canvasutil in debug mod when he updated it ๐ค
unless he forgot to upload those files
wait did you completely redo randomizer or forked off of sean and built on that?
forked
sean got forked
lmao
in the hub
but there are some mayor changes
I wouldn't stand a chance in hell if I tried to build it myself
yeah he could NOW but not before he started
I want to make Pantheon of Nightmares ๐ฉ
i am thinking about it
nice
why bother making anything yourself
you borrow someone else code that does 99% of the work
that does make things go faster
that's what i was trying to say but I think I ended up shitting homothety instead
my b
lol
nah, I didn't take offence to anyone
instead of rewrites, we need dewrites.
fork someones mod, then make it run like shit and add a bunch of glitches
your additions to rando mod are quite nice tho homoethety
o snap benchwarp is homothety

whoops
56 exposed
also why did you copy debug mod anyway
https://github.com/KayDeeTee/hk-bossrush/blob/135f62148760e5db156a830afda5e766bc7435d6/src/BossRush.cs#L86

although I don't think this works anymore due to loading changes
thanks bruv
also I think? i found the canvasutil code. I had forked Sean's debugmod by accident
actually line 194 is teleporting, the rest of that function is just reseting the player
https://github.com/KayDeeTee/hk-bossrush/blob/135f62148760e5db156a830afda5e766bc7435d6/src/BossRush.cs#L226 is bossrush canvasutil stuff
That's my fault I forgot what it was called ๐
although boss rush doesn't work anymore, so you can't just edit small bits of it to test the canvasutil functions
dapper, what are you working on?
Multipooper

multiplayer mmm ๐
weren't saleh and 56 doing something on multiplayer like 2 months ago
Mine's more geared for rando stuff
Also I think theirs was couch co-op
Actual interwebz connection ova hear
are you making local multiplayer?
Nah i got the netsockets and everything
So at first you won't be able to see the other player, but you can share inventories and stuff. Like them old-school SNES projects
interesting
Stretch goal is showing a ghost of the other player's position
big stretch is showing all the other player's actions
Mega stretch is syncing the game worlds and sharing damage outputs
doesn't unity come with unet, although anytime I've actually tried to get unet to work it wouldn't 
no idea what's feasibly possible, but I know at least the inventory sharing is possible
I haven't even heard of unet
well its called something else now
unet's being deprecated it looks like
ye cause it sucks
Another stretch goal is UPnP because that would be fun to learn about imo
For now forward your own ports bizzitch
you're supposed to be able to just add something like
[NetworkMonoBehaviour] to scripts
and it'd automatically keep them in sync
That's pretty cool
I won't be able to code today, or at least not for the next few hours
I need to help my little brother moving some of his stuff
I mean I don't really care
I've already named the folder under "community mod" so no one gets the credit

so if you wanna do it, then go for it
if not, I'll prolly do it later today/tomorrow
godly nightmares ๐ฉ
i added some epic audio cue to the nail attack tho
noice
sugar, I'm sorry to say you're alone
i thought markoth said ravan marta during his shield attack
better give up on that fancult before it's too late m8
is it only in the beginning?
yes
is the yes to me?
yes
there's a gradow fancult?
ofc
ofc
ofc
wut
will praying to gradow make me pass my maths final tomorrow?

yes
yes
cease this
gradow why does linear algebra exist solely to make me suffer
the only thing I can bring you is black moths and poor translations
blackmoth 2 when
any eigen
blackmoth translation ?
jngo, perfect timing
what do you think reasonable health would be for markoth?
6900
i currently set it to 1600
42069
1
that's fine
600 p1, 600 p2, 400 p3
@gilded lotus is 1600 fine with you too?
give it 12 phases
700 phase 3 
and each phase doubles its hp
make it 6275624
69
genius
infinite dreamer 
no
thats why im in your cult
make it 1358
hey sid dont forget t credit me for name ๐
Make it my SAT score
make it the same number playerdatatracker uses for its websockets: 11420 
and that number doesn't even have 420 in it on purpose
:GWczoneHotdog:
i am not a lier
hmm

you are a lier
good

hm.
why are you confused mino
because i am
wait
Red
oh god
Knight
maths
fancult leader?
yes
hi the leader

a true gradow fancult leader gives all for hallownest
communism
pale champion after ngg3 phase2
we need a really cool mod where you solve linear algebra problems to unlock stuff

