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safe hamlet
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now

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listen to this

torpid plank
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SeeS

solar jacinth
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wtf

jovial vault
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this is what a mental breakdown sounds like

solar jacinth
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SuuS

torpid plank
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SeeS

jovial vault
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sigh

solar jacinth
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SuuS

torpid plank
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Glorious.

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SeeS

jovial vault
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grenad why are you in modding for once

safe hamlet
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maybe i should sneak that music for radiance with my markoth mod

solar jacinth
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SeeS

torpid plank
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I lurk everywhere.

solar jacinth
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better , put that music

gilded lotus
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Thatโ€™s why I think I should redo markoth theme. Pale champions music is after I acquired a lot of new goodies

torpid plank
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Except the channels I have on mute.

safe hamlet
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you can if you want to

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i have music finally sorted

torpid plank
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This is glorious, I'mma stealing that.

jovial vault
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theft

solar jacinth
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theft

torpid plank
gilded lotus
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I got a gorgeous harp library too and I wanna make greenpathy music

safe hamlet
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why do i actually enjoy that radiance theme

solar jacinth
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you are gonna do it for me

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slave

gilded lotus
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But I canโ€™t cause itโ€™ll just turn into maple story music lmao

jovial vault
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you are the man modding m*rkoth. you enjoy horrible horrible things

safe hamlet
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true

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i should be studying rn sadgrub

jovial vault
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then again im like the sole animator for a semi big game and I will die this way

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sigh

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zaliant

safe hamlet
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lol

jovial vault
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i saw that

solar jacinth
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you know , you said that you are gonna do a greenpathy music when i was drawing green canyon's assets

gilded lotus
solar jacinth
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its the fake ver of greenpath

safe hamlet
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coincidence? i think not

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zaliant's spying

solar jacinth
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no earlier

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when you dm

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me

gilded lotus
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I also have drone patches

jovial vault
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sliding into peoples dms, i see

gilded lotus
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So I can make eerie stuff like abyss

safe hamlet
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smh stop sliding into dms

solar jacinth
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ohh thatd be cool

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zaliant

gilded lotus
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Iโ€™d just have to fucking find it again

solar jacinth
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give me an example rn slave !!!!

jovial vault
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abyss ๐Ÿค”

solar jacinth
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ambiance

gilded lotus
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The abyss music

safe hamlet
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apple

gilded lotus
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Apple

solar jacinth
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vuhuuhuhuhhHVIHUHUH

jovial vault
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i would actually be very interested in that

solar jacinth
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something like that

safe hamlet
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nice sugar

solar jacinth
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shut up

gilded lotus
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Honestly itโ€™s more simple than you think

solar jacinth
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zaliant is mine

safe hamlet
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i can totally hear what that sounds like

jovial vault
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i like how as soon as someone with creative skills walks into this channel they're snatched up

solar jacinth
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finally ppl are cooperating

gilded lotus
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The only problem is finding that exact sample again

solar jacinth
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i dont understand music language

gilded lotus
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Neither do I

jovial vault
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same

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lmao

safe hamlet
gilded lotus
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I just play around with the piano roll til it works

solar jacinth
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forget about zaliant , lets kidnap cristopher larkin

jovial vault
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i wish i had programming talent smh

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ah yes

solar jacinth
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learn it

jovial vault
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i will

solar jacinth
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very ez tm

jovial vault
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give me until exams end

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programming stuff is similar to linguistics so hopefully it won't be too bad

solar jacinth
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hopefully

jovial vault
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hey look

safe hamlet
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yea imma take larkin

jovial vault
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can you afford him tho wearytiso

safe hamlet
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yes, i can hold him hostage

gilded lotus
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Do you think Chris is Larkin in this chat right now

solar jacinth
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i will kidnap him

gilded lotus
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๐Ÿ‘€

solar jacinth
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no

safe hamlet
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yes larkin is lurkin

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haha i am so funny

solar jacinth
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haha yes

gilded lotus
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That was my joke

safe hamlet
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no u

solar jacinth
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yes me

safe hamlet
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ok

solar jacinth
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e

safe hamlet
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sugar, what should the description of royal dreamer be?

jovial vault
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oh wait impossible markoth is now royal dreamer? ๐Ÿค”

safe hamlet
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yes

young walrus
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Royal dreamer: He has a huge pp

jovial vault
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a huge pale prince (a hollow knight boss modded by 56)

safe hamlet
jovial vault
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side note but i was actually thinking of a lurien boss fight if i were to mod

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hmmmmmm

gilded lotus
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dont you already have enough on your plate

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lmao

jovial vault
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yes and?

gilded lotus
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how are you supposed to work on whatever i want you to at a moments notice

jovial vault
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what are you trying to get me to do for you hmm

gilded lotus
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if you keep taking on things that dont involve me

jovial vault
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i'll do it if you pay me

gilded lotus
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ill pay you in exposure

jovial vault
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here's my commission info

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unfortunate

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also i am working w/ you and saleh

gilded lotus
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btw @safe hamlet

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ensemble cello and choir

jovial vault
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oh wow

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yeah it really shows tbh

gilded lotus
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i actually use the stuff i use for sids in pale champion even though it's free, i just quiet it down a bit and repeat parts

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so it sounds like there's a lot of instruments

jovial vault
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interesting

safe hamlet
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owo

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very nice

solar jacinth
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sid sorry for seeing it late , i was at shopping

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hmmm let me think

limber herald
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how do i get soul in the lightbringer mod

solar jacinth
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it regens

limber herald
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over time?

solar jacinth
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ye

limber herald
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oh thanks

safe hamlet
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yes

gilded lotus
solar jacinth
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there is charms that increases that time

gilded lotus
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its unlisted though

solar jacinth
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ohh shit

gilded lotus
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so you cant find it lmao

solar jacinth
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ahhhhhhhhhhh

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fuck

jovial vault
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can i get this video ๐Ÿ‘€

solar jacinth
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i want that music

safe hamlet
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i am a pro hacker tho

gilded lotus
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sure @jovial vault !

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ill give it to you if

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gottem

safe hamlet
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gottem

jovial vault
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unfortunate

safe hamlet
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zailant will give it to you if you beat royal dreamer

gilded lotus
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give what to me

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pro h4cks?

ornate rivet
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A fight with all 3 dreamers at once would be interesting

safe hamlet
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i was talking to mino

gilded lotus
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oh

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reading is hard

jovial vault
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saleh ๐Ÿ‘€

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new mod idea

ornate rivet
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idk about just Lurien though

gilded lotus
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no chance of giving it to you now

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saleh here with the belt

ornate rivet
jovial vault
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all 3 are phases one after the other

safe hamlet
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saleh give me pale champion music

jovial vault
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and then in the end they come at you at once

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oro and mato but +1 and better

safe hamlet
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what phase?

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the dying phase?

jovial vault
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no you fight one dreamer, then another, then another

ornate rivet
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I never said not to let people hear the PC music

safe hamlet
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yea smh zaliant

jovial vault
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and then after youve beat them all you fight them all three at once

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smh

gilded lotus
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its better if they dont ๐Ÿ‘€

solar jacinth
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what ?

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u lier

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u lied

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u lier

safe hamlet
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lier

gilded lotus
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that way it all hits at once

jovial vault
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saleh did you tell me not to breach nda tho

safe hamlet
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smh why you lier to us

ornate rivet
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idk the animations shouldn't be too revealing

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right?

solar jacinth
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Royal god of deadliest dreams @safe hamlet

jovial vault
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no i think the animations and designs would give what we're doing away

safe hamlet
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alright, thank <3

ornate rivet
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Royal god of salt and desperation

jovial vault
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tho like when you ask for coding stuff it is gonna give it away

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that's my title

safe hamlet
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he has a huge pp was good too

solar jacinth
safe hamlet
solar jacinth
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same

jovial vault
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nice

ornate rivet
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just realized markoth has piles of salt in his arena

jagged snow
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wait whats the pale prince mod?

solar jacinth
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u

jagged snow
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just opened modding api and found it

ornate rivet
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pale prince is pure vessel mod

solar jacinth
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pure vessel but better

gilded lotus
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overall it makes PV slightly harder

safe hamlet
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just slightly

solar jacinth
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slightly

safe hamlet
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nothing too much

gilded lotus
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-danky hemplar

jagged snow
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so it just made inferior nkg a bit elss inferior

ornate rivet
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how would the dreamers attack mino

gilded lotus
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here's your damn teaser now leave me alone

safe hamlet
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they don't (gottem)

solar jacinth
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here we go

jovial vault
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i have ideas for lurien and herrah but i'm not sure about monomon

gilded lotus
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that's all your getting too

jovial vault
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also don't we have plans for after pale champion already

solar jacinth
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3 secs but niceeeok_grimm

safe hamlet
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herrah spawns in hornet

jovial vault
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h

safe hamlet
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and it's a daughter of hallownest fight

gilded lotus
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h

solar jacinth
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h

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e

safe hamlet
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r

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r

ornate rivet
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r

gilded lotus
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daughter of hallownest but hornet doesnt have a htibox and you have to kill teleporting herrah

solar jacinth
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e

safe hamlet
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y

solar jacinth
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wat

gilded lotus
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herrrey

safe hamlet
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some quality discussion in modding

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just like always

solar jacinth
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geeeeii

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mOdiNG TOxic sMh

gilded lotus
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here's something i'm confused on though

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is saleh working on lazy's game

jovial vault
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look me and saleh were talking about a legit mod idea and then it derailed

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nope

safe hamlet
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i don't get why people say modding is toxic, it's literally not

gilded lotus
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for some reason i thought he was

safe hamlet
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nah

jovial vault
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saleh's just my persian practice and programmer

gilded lotus
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yeah i dont get it no one is toxic

safe hamlet
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wait

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persian practice

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:glare:

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practice

gilded lotus
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sounds kinky

jovial vault
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sigh

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degenerates

ornate rivet
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finally found a place where shakra could be used

gilded lotus
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also i was in bed earlier reading chat and i laughed cause sid said my music was better than sugar's example of my music

safe hamlet
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also i was in bed earlier reading chat and i laughed cause sid said my music was better than sugar's example of my music

ornate rivet
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also i was in bed earlier reading chat and i laughed cause sid said my music was better than sugar's example of my music

safe hamlet
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honestly tho, that radiance theme ๐Ÿ‘Œ

gilded lotus
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this is mine sid

jovial vault
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also i was in bed earlier reading chat and i laughed cause we should make a new mod where it has 20 new areas and you play as hornet and theres an npc called sherma who dies at the end

safe hamlet
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yes i know

jovial vault
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smh sid now knows my youtube channel

safe hamlet
gilded lotus
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oh

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i thought you just said it's bad cause mines better

ornate rivet
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smh reading

gilded lotus
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mino's hand wearytiso

safe hamlet
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smh english is hard, i can relate

jovial vault
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my cringey 15 year old art

gilded lotus
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flip those pages more aggressively

jovial vault
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god i should unlist that

ornate rivet
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aren't you 17?

jovial vault
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yeah

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i have an old vid of my art on youtube

gilded lotus
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tbf

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there's only a couple cringy things

safe hamlet
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like me

ornate rivet
safe hamlet
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lol

ornate rivet
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I see what you mean

jovial vault
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same

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unlisted

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now i can sleep at night

safe hamlet
ornate rivet
gilded lotus
safe hamlet
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is that vivaldi? :glare:

jovial vault
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oh man oh MAN i have an unlisted playlist full of persian and hindi grammar stuff

gilded lotus
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let me do the music for lazy's game or everyone gets the link ๐Ÿ˜ 

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this is a stickup

limber herald
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what? the game said im unworthy

jagged snow
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hey

jovial vault
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tb to when i was more nasally

limber herald
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what does that mean

jagged snow
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im alrdy doing music for lazy's game so fight me smh

jovial vault
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loops zaliant's work is p good

gilded lotus
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it means come back later when you are worthy

jagged snow
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a duel to the death it is

limber herald
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so im not strong enough for it

jovial vault
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i mean you can try? @limber herald

limber herald
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yep itried it

jovial vault
limber herald
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didn't go well

solar jacinth
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mino ill ad you as a moth named mino that draws

jovial vault
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oof

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nice

solar jacinth
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in my game

jovial vault
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sherma that's actually really cool ty dude

safe hamlet
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add me in too

solar jacinth
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also will add zaliant as a music maker

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yes

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sid as a scientist moth

ornate rivet
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that's not cringy

safe hamlet
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nah make me a boss that's a platforming challenge and spawns nails :^)

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also has a shield

jagged snow
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how many shields?

safe hamlet
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10 at least

jagged snow
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easy boss

solar jacinth
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thanks saleh very cool

safe hamlet
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@jovial vault send video id sadgrub

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dm me, it will be our secretโ„ข

solar jacinth
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heeyyyy

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me too

jovial vault
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why must you fools want to see my 15 year old art

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i'll send it here i gUess

safe hamlet
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because

jovial vault
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the lurkers can enjoy too

solar jacinth
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clicked faster than light

safe hamlet
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i clicked faster than the acceleration of expansion of the universe

solar jacinth
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what kind of music is that

safe hamlet
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how is that cringey

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i literally can't even draw a stick figure

jovial vault
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in case you want some motivation regarding art and getting better (or anything in general)

๐Ÿ“Ž unknown.png
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no it's just bad

solar jacinth
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dunduudndundudn -...........-dundudnudnudnd.-...........-dundududnud

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wow

buoyant obsidian
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you... became a furry?

jovial vault
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if i can do it w/ not drawing for half a year so can you lol

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yes.

safe hamlet
copper nacelle
solar jacinth
jovial vault
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nice

safe hamlet
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you gotta join this lively conversation, 56

solar jacinth
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no let him stream sekiro

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56 stream sekiro

safe hamlet
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he isn't doing anything rn

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smh

jovial vault
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he was a few hours ago

solar jacinth
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sekiro stream when

copper nacelle
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a few hours ago

safe hamlet
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do it again

rain cedar
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do it again

copper nacelle
jovial vault
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that was the joke

safe hamlet
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it's a joke we created just few minutes ago

copper nacelle
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unfortunate

safe hamlet
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you would know if you were here, smh

copper nacelle
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this is what happens when you miss 349+ messages

rain cedar
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Nobody has time to read 400 off topic messages

safe hamlet
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nobody

hazy sentinel
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what do you then

safe hamlet
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press x to doubt

jovial vault
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5fiftysix6 does

solar jacinth
safe hamlet
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very nice

hazy sentinel
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is this mouse writing

solar jacinth
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yes

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also mouse drawing

rain cedar
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anal shaped with_s drea

jovial vault
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holy shit you're drawing w/ a mouse??

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jeez

solar jacinth
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ehhhe zote

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my hand is united with mouse now

jovial vault
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๐Ÿค”

solar jacinth
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better explanation

safe hamlet
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quality

solar jacinth
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low effort

jovial vault
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๐Ÿค” hmmmm

solar jacinth
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makes you think

jovial vault
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it sure does

solar jacinth
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it was hard at first but it became easier by the time passes

safe hamlet
copper nacelle
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no

jovial vault
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i drew w/ a trackpad for a really long time cause i couldnt afford a tablet

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sigh

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see sid this is why i won't be your animator

solar jacinth
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wtf

safe hamlet
solar jacinth
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track pad ?

copper nacelle
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for that file host is it easy to get approval

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i saw it once

solar jacinth
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wow thats weird

copper nacelle
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and saw email

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and then didn't do it

jovial vault
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the laptop trackpad

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๐Ÿค”

solar jacinth
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i get it

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but

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mouse is better tbh

jovial vault
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yeah true

safe hamlet
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you just have to be invited by someone, when you join the discord, you get one invite to invite some other person

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i have already used mine sadly

copper nacelle
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interesting

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incredible

safe hamlet
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no u

solar jacinth
jovial vault
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how am i paint master my art's below any sort of professional standard

hazy sentinel
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sonic knight with bloody spoon

jovial vault
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also is that sonic

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yes

solar jacinth
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its u

jovial vault
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oh shit how did you know what i look like

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wait i've posted my face here once i think

solar jacinth
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idk drawed and imagined within 10 secs dont jusge me

copper nacelle
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cannot believe mino is sonic irl

jovial vault
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cannot believe 56 is tails irl

solar jacinth
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no results. great

safe hamlet
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56, how come you are not in the OwO guild tho

copper nacelle
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idek what it is

jovial vault
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unfortunate

solar jacinth
safe hamlet
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o wait nvm

hazy sentinel
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see u forgot the part where u delete the message

jovial vault
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yeah fuck i thought i did

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oops oops

solar jacinth
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she didnt delete tho

jovial vault
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time to uh delete

copper nacelle
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i mean there's another face reveal image right below it in image results

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with a dog

jovial vault
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veru is it chill if you delete that

trim totem
hazy sentinel
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loss

safe hamlet
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radiant loss

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wait

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this is a good one

solar jacinth
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pin this

jovial vault
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the only useful pin

safe hamlet
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exactly

solar jacinth
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agreed

jovial vault
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also sugar

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if you want cleaner/nicer lineart with a mouse

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use SAI's lineart layers

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that's what i did

solar jacinth
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can you explain what SAI is

jovial vault
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it's an art program

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arguable better than PS in certain ways

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it's what i draw with

solar jacinth
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im sooo confortable with ps

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idk if i can draw somewhere else

jovial vault
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you know the path tool in photoshop?

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SAI's lineart layers are a better version of that basically

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upto you ofc

solar jacinth
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path tool ? no

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will look

jovial vault
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very nice

solar jacinth
jovial vault
solar jacinth
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gotta sleep like 3 hours or smthng

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then wake up again

gilded lotus
solar jacinth
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is this pale champion

gilded lotus
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no

solar jacinth
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aw man

gilded lotus
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this was supposed to be garmond & zaza kinda thing

solar jacinth
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ah yeah i reminded

gilded lotus
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pale champion has a more epic feel

safe hamlet
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6:53 am

jovial vault
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@safe hamlet get to it smh

solar jacinth
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dont hype meeeeeeeeeeee

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zaliant

safe hamlet
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we need to somehow get into zaliant's pc

gilded lotus
jovial vault
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i do have the link

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hmm

solar jacinth
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i can get him , you get the pc

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deal ?

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sid

safe hamlet
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sure

solar jacinth
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nice

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lier

gilded lotus
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go bribe mino

solar jacinth
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lier

safe hamlet
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i am adding the shields back if you don't give music

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:feelsevilman:

gilded lotus
solar jacinth
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GJHAGHGAHGAGAGAGA

safe hamlet
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this is bullying

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hello yes, is this the bullying hotline?

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can i call a bullyhunter77

gilded lotus
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i think it will be best to experience it all at once

jovial vault
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pale champion only team

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yeah agreed

safe hamlet
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yes but when will saleh be done

jovial vault
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i just have one last animation to draw for pale champion

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before i colour them all

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and yeet them to saleh

solar jacinth
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wow tried to search very nice and nearly all of them are from mino

jovial vault
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very nice

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also no this is in pms

solar jacinth
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aw mann

safe hamlet
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lol

jovial vault
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i've had this exact conversation with zaliant except he was trying to get me to talk about other things im working on

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@solar jacinth try waifu2x

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being fully serious btw

safe hamlet
solar jacinth
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lol

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epic

gilded lotus
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i only wanna know so i can make music for it ๐Ÿ‘€

jovial vault
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you will soon know

gilded lotus
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no u

jovial vault
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i already know

gilded lotus
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prove it

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tell me what you think you know that you're working on

solar jacinth
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by

jovial vault
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[redacted for nda] by mino and [redacted for nda]

gilded lotus
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we scp now

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i never showed anyone this cause it was trash

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but compare that to what i do now lmfao

jovial vault
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big improvements

safe hamlet
gilded lotus
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i dont think i knew what attack did at that point

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i still dont to an extent

safe hamlet
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attack is to attack the enemy ofc :^)

copper nacelle
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this ain't markotth

rain cedar
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Code for sending the player back to their bench without quitting

unborn flicker
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Oh, nice!

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I was actually about to finalize without a warp button, but I'll add that in

#

Everything is working ingame now

sweet birch
#

What is?

rain cedar
#

Bench teleport mod

#

Because nocliping everywhere takes forever

sweet birch
#

What is noclip

rain cedar
#

Flying through walls

gilded lotus
#

its when you turn clipping off

sweet birch
#

Is it a glitch?

unborn flicker
#

it's a debug feature

gilded lotus
#

if it's forced by a program, no

sweet birch
#

DAMMIT

rain cedar
#

I mean it's also a glitch

#

@tranquil glen

sweet birch
#

I CAN'T USE DEBUG I DON'T HAVE HK ON PC

copper nacelle
#

I LIKE TO TALK IN CAPS

fair rampart
#

OK

safe hamlet
#

COOL

gilded lotus
#

THANK YOU FIFTY SIX VERY COOL

sweet birch
#

God

brazen mortar
#

WELCOME TO MODDING WE MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE

sweet birch
#

I wish I had infinite charm capabilities on my switchj

rain cedar
#

Oh yeah another thing @unborn flicker you should get in contact with The Embraced One#6059 and see if they're ok with you using their UI images before you release anything

#

I can't imagine they wouldn't allow it as long as you put credits

brazen mortar
#

what ui images?

copper nacelle
#

the borders

#

the fancy looking ones

brazen mortar
#

just

rain cedar
#

Yeah the debug mod ones

brazen mortar
#

draw new ones

sweet birch
#

Because I'm struggling with the dreamer bosses

fair rampart
#

yes I have a lot of trouble with Herrah

#

she keeps killing me instantly

sweet birch
#

I MEAN THE DREAM BOSSES

#

NOT THE FREAKING DREAMERS

copper nacelle
#

what is with you and caps

brazen mortar
#

what is with you and death

copper nacelle
#

clinical depression

brazen mortar
#

its ok modding is a wholesome place ill be here for you

sweet birch
#

because I don't like being made fun of

#

Although I only do have Monomon

rain cedar
copper nacelle
#

no

leaden hedge
#

thats gay

sweet birch
#

That's creepy

#

Doesn't watcher spire require a key?

rain cedar
#

Alex could be a girl's name you never know if it's gay

#

But yes it is creepy

copper nacelle
#

no

ornate rivet
#

Sean can you please stop sending these gifs theyโ€™re not funny and getting kinda annoying
I mean it was kinda funny at first but now they just feel condescending

rain cedar
#

Saleh can you please stop sending these gifs theyโ€™re not funny and getting kinda annoying
I mean it was kinda funny at first but now they just feel condescending

fair rampart
#

Sean can you please stop sending these gifs theyโ€™re not funny and getting kinda annoying
I mean it was kinda funny at first but now they just feel condescending

unborn flicker
copper nacelle
#

nothing

#

System.Collections.Generic

unborn flicker
copper nacelle
#

there are two of them

#

one has a type

#

one doesn't

brazen mortar
#

.

copper nacelle
#

shut

leaden hedge
#

i can be like 99.9999999% sure that anyone with albino fox in their name isn't a girl

rain cedar
#

IEnumerator is from System.Collections

#

IEnumerator<T> is from System.Collections.Generic

#

You want the first one

copper nacelle
#

oh whoops

unborn flicker
#

Ah, that fixed it

safe hamlet
#

Alt + Enter

#

๐Ÿ˜ฉ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

copper nacelle
#

but what if they already imported the other one

#

you fool

safe hamlet
#

it still shows you

#

since it's not IEnumerator<T>

copper nacelle
#

o

#

i rescind my fool

safe hamlet
#

i call this bullying sadgrub

unborn flicker
#

hmmm, I thought I checked alt enter, but maybe I didn't ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

sweet birch
#

I swear

#

If I had it on the PC I would have already gotten Infinite Charm Notches

brazen mortar
#

.

copper nacelle
#

.

rain cedar
#

You can do that with just save editing

brazen mortar
#

whats stopping you from buying a 15 dollar game on pc

rain cedar
#

Lack of $15, I would assume

brazen mortar
#

sad

#

just stop buying food

leaden hedge
#

i patented that technique

rain cedar
#

You don't need to buy expensive food when you can buy peanut butter instead

#

Life hacks

brazen mortar
#

i go with chocolate instead when i have no food

safe hamlet
#

just don't eat, even better

gilded lotus
#

well you know what they say about peanut butter

leaden hedge
#

if you want to be even more frugal you can eat the peanut butter container

#

it'll taste about as good as peanut butter

unborn flicker
#

Ok, the warp button works

gilded lotus
#

no it doesnt

rain cedar
#

Gasoline is 31.5kcal / gallon

unborn flicker
#

I was worried at first because black screen from the menu

rain cedar
#

Pretty efficient food

unborn flicker
#

Is there a command to force close the menu at the start of the respawn?

leaden hedge
#

bleach is probably cheaper, and just as likely to kill you

rain cedar
#

Like the pause menu?

unborn flicker
#

Yeah

brazen mortar
#

there would be no thirsty children in africa if theyd all just drink gasoline

gilded lotus
#

drinking gasoline with my self destructive personality? that sounds like a pretty good.... match ๐Ÿ˜

brazen mortar
#

smh theyre so dumb

rain cedar
#

You can change the WaitForSeconds into WaitForSecondsRealtime

unborn flicker
#

I only have the selection menu show up on pause

rain cedar
#

And it should fade properly even when paused

#

Canceling the pause menu manually is why debug mod pausing is jank btw

#

So I wouldn't recommend it

unborn flicker
#

Hmmm

#

WaitForSecondsRealtime still goes to black screen, and requires a pause/unpause to load in

rain cedar
#

Then there's something in TC code waiting for game time

#

You can try this:

UIManager.instance.UIClearPauseMenu();
#

It might work better than TogglePauseGame

#

That debug uses

sweet birch
#

Exaltation seems pretty awesome

#

Did any of you guys use it for the 5th pantheon

rain cedar
#

Or maybe UIClosePauseMenu

copper nacelle
#

no that'd be cheating

rain cedar
#

Is it cheating to use lightbringer in p5?

sweet birch
#

lightbringer makes it harder

rain cedar
#

Exactly what a cheater would say

safe hamlet
#

^

sweet birch
#

Cheating is supposed to make it easier

rain cedar
#

Lightbringer is definitely easier

copper nacelle
#

the stagger thing makes it a bit better on that end

#

but the charms are still way better than vanilla

rain cedar
#

It's got a charm that replaces your basic attack with fireballs

#

And also charms that heavily buff mp regen

#

But no, lightbringer makes the game harder

#

Don't worry about it

sweet birch
#

Pantheon of Hollownest is going to be hell for me

unborn flicker
#

It closes the menu immediately but still black screens

rain cedar
#

Did you do anything special to make it fade back in or does it just do it after a long delay?

unborn flicker
#

I pressed start twice

#

That's when the menu reappears

rain cedar
#

Ah ok

unborn flicker
#

should've captured cursor I guess

rain cedar
#

So chances are closing the menu isn't resetting the timescale

#

Time.timeScale = 1f

#

Or something like that

unborn flicker
#

Perfect!

rain cedar
#

Nice

copper nacelle
#

homothemodder

unborn flicker
#

I'm really happy with the look and feel of using it

#

The code is atrocious though zote

fair rampart
#

really going for that TC feel huh

unborn flicker
#

I know I should have had a dictionary/array somewhere, but instead I had 50 variables for everything

ornate rivet
#

that's hot

unborn flicker
#

and made do with copious ctrl v

gilded lotus
#

can you kill herrah without lantern

copper nacelle
#

yeah

unborn flicker
#

There was also this morning, when I thought everything was good and I was done, then I accidentally pressed inventory and softlocked

copper nacelle
#

relatable

gilded lotus
#

i wanna see a randomizer run where they don't ever visit dirtmouth

unborn flicker
#

That would've been possible before fury was put to geo

#

with wings there

gilded lotus
#

oh , i forgot about that

hollow hearth
#

Why was that changed

rain cedar
#

Couple reasons

#

Fury fucked with the progression because it was set as requiring claw when it actually doesn't

#

Because if for some reason you skip it and go down to dirtmouth suddenly it does require claw

#

And with no guaranteed geo from false knight anymore, shops could be very annoying

unborn flicker
#

It's very likely that you need a lot of geo early on, and no one likes spending time farming Crossroads

rain cedar
#

Especially in bingo you might want to buy something like deep focus early on

#

For board position

gilded lotus
#

would be cool to see though even if it's rng

#

after that one dude beat HK without ever going to CoT

#

apart from dreamer

unborn flicker
#

There actually are two more issues with the warp right now:

  1. After respawning at bench, the game resumes, but the only input it accepts is pause. After unpausing it proceeds normally
  2. Attempting to warp with a nonbench respawn gives a black screen with no input. I can always just avoid this by checking against respawnType though
copper nacelle
#

For the pause thing

#

Call HeroController.instance.AcceptInput()

unborn flicker
#

tried it

copper nacelle
#

Wtf

#

Did you wait for the pause screen to go away

unborn flicker
#

no, there is no pause screen here

copper nacelle
#

oh i mean

unborn flicker
#

it's like, you're sitting at the bench and everything is animated normally except it doesn't listen for inputs

copper nacelle
#

does the GameState change

#

in debug mod

#

I had a similar thing with the dreamers for qol's cutscene skip

unborn flicker
#

I have regaincontrol, unpause, and acceptinput, but none of them make a difference

#

the only variable that was different in debug before and after the warp was heropaused

sweet birch
#

Which of you have played Randomizer?

copper nacelle
#

You need the wait or none of them work

#

It's cursed

ornate rivet
#

no u

copper nacelle
#

that is old news

sweet birch
#

Without randomized enemies

#

Is it still cursed?

copper nacelle
#

No not randomizer

#

The accepting input issue is cursed

sweet birch
#

Oh

unborn flicker
#

I need the wait?

copper nacelle
#

yeah

unborn flicker
#

wdym

copper nacelle
#

the yield return null while GameState isn't playing

unborn flicker
#

ah, I can try that

finite nova
#

where can i download the mod to practice bosses in HOG with all bindings

copper nacelle
#

it's kinda buggy

#

but i also don't feel like fixing it so i'd recommend having debug mod with it

finite nova
#

thanks

unborn flicker
#

Adding the wait into the fadein method didn't change anything

copper nacelle
#

can you make a vid w/ debug open

unborn flicker
#

Sure

copper nacelle
#

pog

unborn flicker
copper nacelle
#

try waiting like a fourth of a second after the game state becomes playing

#

and then call acceptinput

unborn flicker
#

should the wait be before or after calling readyforrespawn

copper nacelle
#

after

unborn flicker
#

ok good

copper nacelle
#

ReadyForRespawn does the transitioning

unborn flicker
copper nacelle
#

Wtf

#

It says AcceptInput check but you can't move

#

You can't get off the bench before pausing right?

unborn flicker
#

I can't, yeah

rain cedar
#

It looks like you get off the bench but you're also still on the bench

#

Like it does the getting off thing

copper nacelle
#

and then you teleport

rain cedar
#

Fall down and spawns dust

unborn flicker
copper nacelle
#

try not calling relinquish control maybe?

ornate rivet
#

Is the front cover of Oathbringer a spoiler???? grimm

copper nacelle
#

probably not

ornate rivet
#

The person looks like Jasnah

#

or what I thought she would look like

copper nacelle
unborn flicker
#

uhhh

#

it got weirder but not better

ornate rivet
#

I was watching your stream

trim totem
#

it's literally jasnah

ornate rivet
#

well at least I know I was right

unborn flicker
copper nacelle
#

wtf

#

Oh I got it

#

You can try just calling HeroController.instance.Respawn

#

It's a coroutine so you'll want to start it using HeroController's StartCoroutine

#

If that fucks with things you can just look at what it's doing

#

It has an animation control thing

#

Calling StartAnimationControl should work I think

unborn flicker
#

should I call it at the end of everything?

copper nacelle
#

Yeah

unborn flicker
#

That causes the bench animation to restart, but nothing else

copper nacelle
#

try starting the respawn coroutine

unborn flicker
#

that was with the respawn coroutine

copper nacelle
#

fuck

#

try startanimationcontrol then

unborn flicker
#

That leads to the same thing as before, walking endlessly to the left

copper nacelle
#

ahh

unborn flicker
#

or no probably not

#

I think it's random whether I get an input in to move infinitely in one direction or not

#

it's not consistent, at least

copper nacelle
#

What methods are you calling before that

#

And it loads me in w/ input working but with a black screen if I go from a different room

#

If i go from the same room it just works tm

unborn flicker
#

where needsfadein is a bool

#

those two methods are all I have. Clicking the warp button calls the respawn coroutine

copper nacelle
#

try

# 
        private IEnumerator Respawn()
        {
            UIManager.instance.UIClosePauseMenu();
            HeroController.instance.AffectedByGravity(false);
            HeroController.instance.transitionState = HeroTransitionState.EXITING_SCENE;
            GameManager.instance.cameraCtrl.FadeOut(CameraFadeType.LEVEL_TRANSITION);
            yield return new WaitForSecondsRealtime(0.5f);
            GameManager.instance.ReadyForRespawn(false);
            yield return new WaitWhile(() => GameManager.instance.IsInSceneTransition);
            Time.timeScale = 1f;
            GameManager.instance.FadeSceneIn();
        }
#

no hook

safe hamlet
hazy sentinel
#

๐Ÿ˜– feeling confused.

copper nacelle
# 
        private IEnumerator Respawn()
        {
            UIManager.instance.UIClosePauseMenu();
            
            // Set some stuff which would normally be set by LoadSave
            HeroController.instance.AffectedByGravity(false);
            HeroController.instance.transitionState = HeroTransitionState.EXITING_SCENE;
            GameManager.instance.cameraCtrl.FadeOut(CameraFadeType.LEVEL_TRANSITION);
            
            yield return new WaitForSecondsRealtime(0.5f);
            
            // Actually respawn the character
            GameManager.instance.ReadyForRespawn(false);
            
            yield return new WaitWhile(() => GameManager.instance.IsInSceneTransition);
            
            // Revert pause menu timescale
            Time.timeScale = 1f;
            GameManager.instance.FadeSceneIn();
            
            // We have to set the game non-paused because TogglePauseMenu sucks and UIClosePauseMenu doesn't do it for us.
            GameManager.instance.isPaused = false;
        }
ornate rivet
#

Last night, i was dream that this game will be exclusive on Epic Store. I hope it doesn't real :v @charred parrot

safe hamlet
#

the game being in the epic store would be quite epic

weak lodge
#

๐Ÿ˜Ž

gilded lotus
#

epic gamer moment

#

@safe hamlet have another tease

#

not much of a tease though cause it's a picture LOL

safe hamlet
#

time to reconstruct that using some epic skills

fair rampart
#

it's just megalovania

drifting glade
#

The funny sans song

gilded lotus
weak lodge
#

is that flstudio 14

gilded lotus
#

20

weak lodge
#

ech 20

#

how much does it cost

gilded lotus
#

idk

weak lodge
#

oshyt ic

fair rampart
#

20

gilded lotus
#

i just pirate it lmao

weak lodge
#

send files over thanks

gilded lotus
#

its only $200

#

honestly even without pirate i was using the trial version a lot, you can do everything with it, just cant load up projects that you save

#

i recorded everything and put it on streamable so i knew where everything was so i didnt have to re-open them cornywoke

buoyant obsidian
#

you're under arrest

unborn flicker
gilded lotus
#

i love how at the end he runs even slower

weak lodge
#

pog

unborn flicker
weak lodge
#

0/10 no cirocdash

safe hamlet
#

imagine paying for stuff

#

i pirated all adobe stuff ๐Ÿ‘Œ

weak lodge
#

i think ill get adobe premiere since i dont really like the sony vegas exporting

hazy sentinel
#

vegas is clunky but cheap

unborn flicker
#

I can post the dll too if anyone wants

weak lodge
#

homodthety now a well established modder

unborn flicker
#

amazing

gilded lotus
#

can you load up a godmaster save and use the bench warp

#

and see if it just breaks

unborn flicker
#

it really was a conversation of equals when sean brought his respawn method

safe hamlet
#

those settings tho, must be tedious to write all that

unborn flicker
#

It wasn't as bad as it seems, once I made a template

#

That being said, if there were any more benches I would have had to actually put thought into it instead of brute forcing everything

safe hamlet
#

i believe you can't use a dict because of how the savesettings thing works?

unborn flicker
#

That was my fear

#

I wasn't sure about whether that would work, and I figured that even if I did index the benches by their scene names or something, that wouldn't be that much easier to iterate over

#

Though part of that is also just not being comfortable enough with the fundamentals, I suppose

safe hamlet
#

yea it would be kinda weird

#

but i believe you could make it work by using a tuple

#

wait does tuple even exist in .netfx 3.5

#

ehhh, still would be weird

#

nope, it doesn't lol, so yea that is the best way prolly

copper nacelle
#

You can use a dict you just have to not be bad

#

You can mark the type as an ISerializationCallbackReciever

#

On serialization set a bool to true

#

And if the bool isn't true use JsonUtility to convert the whole thing to a string

#

Store the string

#

After serialization remove the string or at the start of the serialization always set it to empty

#

You can also just serialize the dict in the callback reciever which is less of a pain but you have to add stuff for new fields so if you add a second dictionary you'd have to add new stuff

#

I'd like to fix this in the api at some point but :effort:

#

Fixing in the api should just be calling json utility with reflection for the generic type arg and making sure I don't fuck up the dicts

safe hamlet
#

yes but i am talking about linking the scene name + hasvisited..., bool

#

i guess you could have scene name as the key and another dict for the value zote

unborn flicker
#

But really, speaking, the worst of it was setting the buttons and color logic in topmenu, and that would be fairly hard to automate

#

Since that has the setting bools, scene names, and area name in each entry

#

I don't doubt that it's possible, ofc

copper nacelle
#

You can just have a dict of string to bool

safe hamlet
#

then have like "hasVisited..." as the string?

copper nacelle
#

what

#

you mean the nice names?

safe hamlet
#

ye

copper nacelle
#

two dicts

#

one read-only effectively a const

#

and one actually used for storage

safe hamlet
#

yea that could work

jovial vault
#

Morning

safe hamlet
#

good morning

gilded lotus
#

no u

safe hamlet
#

no u u

copper nacelle
#

no

safe hamlet
#

studying for exams that you have in just few days :drakeno:
watching anime till yours eyes can't handle anymore :drakeyes:

#

i need nitro

#

time to sell mods as a living

jovial vault
#

Make exactly $7

solemn rivet
#

wait homothety

#

u making that homeward bone mod?

#

/bonfire warp

unborn flicker
#

it's done

solemn rivet
#

it's done

unborn flicker
#

well, it has a few minor issues, but the major features all work correctly and completely

solemn rivet
#

how's it work?

#

can you only warp to previously visited benches?

#

on only to last bench?

unborn flicker
#

It's built out of the drop down menu from debug

#

With tabs for areas

#

And it tracks benches you've visited using save settings

solemn rivet
#

n i c e

unborn flicker
#

So you can warp to any previously visited bench at any time by pausing

#

And thanks to Sean and 56, there is also a warp button to skip the s&q

solemn rivet
#

wdym

unborn flicker
#

Oh, there's also a global setting to unlock all benches when you load a save

#

Actually, I'll record another streamable now that the warp works

solemn rivet
#

that's real good

#

good for rando2 too

unborn flicker
#

Yeah, this really redefines fast travel

#

I'm really happy with how slick/nonobtrusive the mod is. The Debug UI works well for this imo

solemn rivet
#

yupyup

#

if this becomes allowed in rando races/bingo

#

oh boi

#

that changes everything

young walrus
#

Doubtful

#

Would probably be allowed in room rando tho

safe hamlet
#

gotta do it with map now ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

unborn flicker
#

benchwarp is going to be built into the logic of room rando

#

And we'll see for the rest, it could catch on or it might not. It would make item rando substantially faster

young walrus
#

Using it for item rando would just ruin the fun and lessen decisions

solemn rivet
#

not really... Would it?

young walrus
#

Yes

solemn rivet
#

hmm

young walrus
#

All orphaned item checks could be revisited with hardly any time punishment

solemn rivet
#

yeah

#

what if you had a check that only allowed the warp to work then

young walrus
#

The risk and reward factor would be totally lessened

solemn rivet
#

to prevent s&q at least

unborn flicker
#

Most orphaned items don't really benefit that much from this

#

You're not getting to Hiveblood minutes faster

young walrus
#

Fungal would. Bingo goals absolutely would

solemn rivet
#

I agree with mick tbh

young walrus
#

Oh I found claw, let's just warp to bench bottom right of fungal and get bretta

#

Then warp somewhere else for next goal

#

Would ruin the competition

#

And completely change the game

solemn rivet
#

'ruin' is a bit much, but it would lessen it, I think

unborn flicker
#

Does it add so much to spend 2 minutes walking back to Bretta through one of the easiest areas of the game?

solemn rivet
#

it would be more a reflex game than a risk/reward thing

young walrus
#

Yes. It provides actual weight to decisions

unborn flicker
#

Our tournament races already regularly go over 2 hours. That's unusually long, for speedrunning

young walrus
#

Not for randomizers

solemn rivet
#

I blame crystal hunters

unborn flicker
#

And I disagree with this notion that decisions don't matter anymore

#

It's not like benches take no time to pick up

young walrus
#

Other randomizers are regularly over 3 hours for other games

#

Ours is exceedingly short in comparison

solemn rivet
#

that's also true, homothety

#

you're trading off picking up a lot of benches (which is slow) for more mobility later on

young walrus
#

Plus the travel time rewards good movement in addition to effective routing

#

Better runners will be better because of the added rooms

#

Teleporting everywhere lessens that skill advantage too

unborn flicker
#

We've seen a lot of one format and none of the other. I think it's premature to decide which is better

#

Also, big disagree that longer runs make better runners more likely to win

#

That just adds more variability, because of how the game punishes exploration

#

You go to Waterways or Deepnest, you're stuck there for 15 minutes because those areas force you to bench far away from fast travel

young walrus
#

Or you risk not taking the bench and save quit out

unborn flicker
#

That's slower

young walrus
#

Than warping. Absolutely

unborn flicker
#

For Deepnest at least

young walrus
#

You're investing time

#

It's a decision to make

#

Again, the balance of risk and reward

unborn flicker
#

this is a non-argument though. you presume there are no decisions to be made if you're not spending an hour walking from place to place

young walrus
#

Part of the risk of deepnest is that there's a lot there, but takes time to leave

#

Plus our races are regularly 1 hour in game time.

#

Maybe a little more at not the top level

#

But that's really not much time

#

And these minutes matter

#

Take away those risks....

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I think it could be a really interesting game type to play, but as the "main" ruleset..... probably not

unborn flicker
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I tend to agree it's unlikely to dominate item rando

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Could maybe make 1v1 blackout viable, but still doubtful

young walrus
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I still stand that this will be absolutely essential for room rando

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Room rando would be a nightmare without it

unborn flicker
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The scope of the map way outspans its fast travel

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We're just lucky that most of the places far away from stags also usually have nothing of speedrun/rando interest

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But 12 stags definitely won't be enough for full room rando, which I think is like ~1000 rooms?

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That might be an overestimate, but 49 benches do a much better job of connecting something that big

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And there will definitely be push and pull on exploration. like, "if I go two more rooms the other way, will I find a bench," and so on

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With just stags, your odds would be infinitesimal