archived-modding-development

[charred parrot]

rigging

blegh

3d modelling

ugh

So wait we've got us sorta

Sugar and his moth

this guy

and the dating Sim

[jovial vault]

you've currently got us but not for long honestly

yep

[jovial vault]

holy shit i was about to send that

[charred parrot]

I think it's safe to say mino is me but they put points into art instead of programming

and got spawned on the other side of the planet

[jovial vault]

not if i swim over to canada for uni

[charred parrot]

the pacific is a weak as shit ocean

ez p

z

[compact sedge]

gradow is 56 but with an uncannily sexy knowledge of crazy advanced mathematics.

algebra sucks and math is bad - small brain
algebra sucks, geometry is better - normal brain
the factory default algebra sucks, let's build our own algebras from scratch - woke brain
instead of studying normal algebra, let's study the knockoff algebras we build from scratch - galaxy brain

[jovial vault]

Angle is gradow but more moth and astronomy involved - biggest galaxy brain

[trim totem]

no

[gilded lotus]

Wait who is moth

[jovial vault]

56 is streaming hmm

[solemn rivet]

I'm 56,but spent all my points in age instead of charisma and programming skills

[weak lodge]

And I spent all my points in a pseudo DLKurosh build

[floral furnace]

kuro is my literal hero

[dusky lion]

do you respect him

do you wish for him to keep it up

are you proud of him

[floral furnace]

all of the above yes

[solemn rivet]

Kuro is my mommy

[copper nacelle]

@floral furnace

[jovial vault]

shouldn't you be doing your homework

[copper nacelle]

yes

should being the key word there

[floral furnace]

this tbh

homework is optional

[jovial vault]

school is optional

[copper nacelle]

being alive is optional

[jovial vault]

no one:
56: i want to die

[solemn rivet]

Everyone: I want to die
No one:

[floral furnace]

existance is just an excuse of a mortal to play silksong

[jovial vault]

ttacco dating sim when

[floral furnace]

school

bad writing

dying from silksong wait

[jovial vault]

ttacco silksong will come out before march 31 2020

[floral furnace]

i can wait, my health does not 😤

[jovial vault]

ttacco no you can't die on us

i cant fly over to the philippines to bury you with silksong

[solemn rivet]

TTacco, just saying but there's a pretty cool VN named Swan Song

Maybe you should name yours in a similar manner

[floral furnace]

+18

🤔

[solemn rivet]

Yeah, it's pretty gruesome at points

It's not a dating sim btw

It's just a post-apocalyptic story

[jovial vault]

anything can be a dating sim if you squint hard enough

[copper nacelle]

monkaHmm

[weak lodge]

Squint at 56 😍

[solemn rivet]

so, I've been playing supraland lately

'tis good shit

[safe hamlet]

owo

[jovial vault]

uwu

[solemn rivet]

it really is

[river eagle]

all uwus result in a ban btw

[solemn rivet]

I uwuas posuwutively suwurprised

[safe hamlet]

i assume you all have seen this

[jovial vault]

hal you can't ban me

[safe hamlet]

https://i.redd.it/tha4tw69qyo01.jpg

[jovial vault]

LMAO

[solemn rivet]

that's me

ngl

[jovial vault]

gradow is our anime owo girl

[solemn rivet]

[jovial vault]

sigh

[solemn rivet]

*reformed, mind you

[jovial vault]

you are you so smart and a degenerate at the same time

[solemn rivet]

smart

m8

[safe hamlet]

degenerate
how :glare:

[solemn rivet]

u don't even kno me

[safe hamlet]

he is tryna say he is beyond smart

[jovial vault]

casually does a phd in maths

[safe hamlet]

this man has intelligence on par with shaggy

[solemn rivet]

xcept not

[safe hamlet]

https://youtu.be/YeemJlrNx2Q

😩

[jovial vault]

cease

modding is a serious channel for serious degenerates

[safe hamlet]

my bad, modding is very serious

[jovial vault]

hmm i want to draw something to warm up before i finish this thing

anyone have any ocs

[safe hamlet]

ocs?

[gilded lotus]

original characters if i had to guess

[safe hamlet]

:glare:

what are you doing here

aren't you supposed to be beating markoth?

[gilded lotus]

eating pizza first

[safe hamlet]

pizza

i am hungry

:glare:

[gilded lotus]

👀

[safe hamlet]

maybe i should make markoth be able to teleport

[gilded lotus]

he doesnt?

[safe hamlet]

not yet

one hit = teleport

even worse than no eyes

[gilded lotus]

seems overkill

especially given his knockback

[safe hamlet]

indeed, so not gonna do it

[gilded lotus]

weird but

i want to make music for somethign already

lmfao

[safe hamlet]

yes

you do

make one for impossible markoth

the dream battle one is lame

[gilded lotus]

free plugins are lame

[safe hamlet]

because it's not unique

[gilded lotus]

but its the best i can do

what do you want

i can literally only use strings

i refuse to use brass / woodwind sound hot garbage

when they're free

https://streamable.com/2tjnd i could remake this and loop it

[safe hamlet]

i am fine with anything

you can even just remix the dream battle one

[gilded lotus]

i wouldnt know how to do that

ok actually this theme is really simplistic

someone should make a gpz mod where it just fills the whole fucking screen with adjectives

[safe hamlet]

lol

[solemn rivet]

Draw the blackmoth

[jovial vault]

smh no im drawing molas oc

[safe hamlet]

draw blackmoth

[copper nacelle]

draw some motivation

you can sell it at high prices

[jovial vault]

ah yes, that's how i plan to pay for college

[gilded lotus]

could always do that furry thing

those artists get paid a fuck ton

[jovial vault]

plan B

[ornate rivet]

oh no

[jovial vault]

salam

[ornate rivet]

hi

[jovial vault]

chetori 👀

[ornate rivet]

khoobam

[jovial vault]

saleh do you actually know persian

[ornate rivet]

bale

تو؟

[copper nacelle]

almaro makaro mkfragbe thakabas

[jovial vault]

is that morroccan arabic

[brazen mortar]

no its japanese

[safe hamlet]

^

[ornate rivet]

pretty sure it's spanish

[safe hamlet]

how can you be so naive

[ornate rivet]

japanese doesn't use english letters

[trim totem]

ware! oniwa gyoubu masataka nari!

[jovial vault]

@ornate rivet uhh im half persian so i can understand farsi, but i'm kinda learning it rn

[copper nacelle]

hesitation is defeat

[brazen mortar]

baba is you

[trim totem]

56 stream

[jovial vault]

56 was streaming like 4 hours ago

[copper nacelle]

I already did

[gilded lotus]

guys look out oh no Numuhukumakiaki'aialunamor just used his hanzo ultimate ability'

[trim totem]

stream again

[copper nacelle]

❌

[safe hamlet]

the triple ❌

[ornate rivet]

wait

wait

[safe hamlet]

there's no saving anymore

[ornate rivet]

is Numuhukumakiaki'aialunamor from the way of kings

[jovial vault]

ye

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[ornate rivet]

oh wow now I understand the references

[copper nacelle]

gamer hours

[ornate rivet]

this is great

[trim totem]

i didn't even get a notification

[copper nacelle]

unfortunate

[trim totem]

wtf i missed everything

[brazen mortar]

56 ping everyone when you stream

[copper nacelle]

FeelsBadMan

[trim totem]

i wasnt awake anyway

[brazen mortar]

rather

i think theres a webhook

[hard berry]

there was cat cam too

[brazen mortar]

you can link to your twitch

that has a bot send a message whenever you stream

set it up on the meme server

[copper nacelle]

i could but will i

[safe hamlet]

meme server

[copper nacelle]

try spelling

[safe hamlet]

[ornate rivet]

meme server == zote server?

[safe hamlet]

can't spell

[copper nacelle]

no it's my server which is called meme

[ornate rivet]

ah ok

[brazen mortar]

yeah its a p bad server

[copper nacelle]

rude

[brazen mortar]

but it can be used to ping everyone whenever you stream

and then it will still be bad and filled with copypastas

but it will be better

[copper nacelle]

[safe hamlet]

lol

[jovial vault]

oh btw @brazen mortar

[brazen mortar]

wow

that looks amazing

but a lot older than i go with haha

are you calling me old?

[jovial vault]

ye

mola is old™

[brazen mortar]

rude

im like

the second youngest here

[buoyant obsidian]

so you're like 9 maybe?

[copper nacelle]

are you younger than sid

[brazen mortar]

no idk how old sid is theyre new

[copper nacelle]

your age I think

11th grade

[jovial vault]

isnt sid like 17

[copper nacelle]

16-17 presumably

[jovial vault]

that would make you the youngest hmm

[torpid plank]

smh my head young punks.

😔

[copper nacelle]

@safe hamlet when birthday

[gilded lotus]

damn youngins

[copper nacelle]

ok old man

[safe hamlet]

may 26, will be 16

[torpid plank]

You'll understand what true wisdom and knowledge is once you get to my age.

[brazen mortar]

younger than i am

older than 56

56 has june bday iirc

[gilded lotus]

you mean loneliness @torpid plank

[brazen mortar]

i have Feb bday

[torpid plank]

That too.

But mostly knowledge and wisdom.

[gilded lotus]

im not wise at all

i call your bluff

[trim totem]

you are baby

[gilded lotus]

yes you

[copper nacelle]

why are you my age but a year ahead of me

cheats

[torpid plank]

@gilded lotus That depends on what your age is.

[safe hamlet]

o zaliant, i have something for you :feelsevilman:

[brazen mortar]

who you talking to 56

[copper nacelle]

sid

[brazen mortar]

sid is grade 11?

[copper nacelle]

i think so

[brazen mortar]

aye same!

[safe hamlet]

yes

[brazen mortar]

look at 56

[safe hamlet]

i skipped a grade™

[brazen mortar]

imagine not being a year ahead

[safe hamlet]

smh

[gilded lotus]

what is it @safe hamlet

[safe hamlet]

it's uploading

[gilded lotus]

@torpid plank ill be 27 october

[safe hamlet]

hold up

[torpid plank]

Finally, someone older than I am.

😔

[brazen mortar]

genad be 23 iirc

[torpid plank]

Yes.

[gilded lotus]

i came outta the womb gaming xD

[safe hamlet]

did you beat markoth

[gilded lotus]

IM STILL EATING

IM OLD

[safe hamlet]

HOW

[brazen mortar]

isnt jngo older?

[gilded lotus]

ive never gotten jngo's age

i think cranky is mid 20's as well

[torpid plank]

jngo has recently gotten into college/university so I am not sure if he's that old.

[brazen mortar]

he's 47

[odd dome]

wh

[torpid plank]

That, or he's joking.

[copper nacelle]

the first reference is to phantom age

but that's also just +1 year so idk

[brazen mortar]

it doesnt seem like hes joking

[safe hamlet]

it was on 4/20

so we can't be sure

[brazen mortar]

He even said it once in hallownest

[copper nacelle]

he said something about 5 years of college

therefore older than 20

therefore 47

[brazen mortar]

No reason to make a joke on a separate server where no one will get the joke

[jovial vault]

oh mola you're also in 11th grade?

[brazen mortar]

Yepp

[jovial vault]

nice, same

[safe hamlet]

we all are in 11th grade

[brazen mortar]

Except 56

[safe hamlet]

except 56

smh

[brazen mortar]

Who’s also our age apparently

[torpid plank]

I am not in education, tyvm.

[brazen mortar]

56 better catch up

[copper nacelle]

you

[jovial vault]

smh yusuf what are you doing

[safe hamlet]

education? pfft

that's for dumb people

[copper nacelle]

local man who is taking precalc in 12th grade tells man taking precalc in 10th to catch up

[brazen mortar]

Exactly smh

[safe hamlet]

who's taking precalc in 12th grade

[hazy sentinel]

0 people

[brazen mortar]

Meh

Me

[copper nacelle]

yoted

yoting

yote

[safe hamlet]

zote

[copper nacelle]

zoted

[dusky lion]

kissing

[copper nacelle]

no

that's not related

[dusky lion]

ye

[copper nacelle]

❌

[dusky lion]

shut the fuck up

[copper nacelle]

bitch

[dusky lion]

do we have a comedian in here

did i ever tell you the joke about the kid who dissipated into the sands of time

and you never will

[copper nacelle]

what

[safe hamlet]

i am confusion

[copper nacelle]

relatable

[nimble lake]

I've heard the charm overhaul mod lets you switch between void heart and kingsoul?

How do I do that?

[weak lodge]

uh fight pure vessel

[nimble lake]

Do you need to fight him every time you want to swap?

Also is there a way to make fury of the fallen always active?

[leaden hedge]

have 1 hp

[nimble lake]

like

without having to stay on 1 hp

[leaden hedge]

sure get debug mod and set your base damage to 38

[nimble lake]

it's not the same

also if you don't know how to do that then don't comment with jokes

because i'm actually trying here

[leaden hedge]

i know exactly how to do it

would you like some more totally fine suggestions

[nimble lake]

yes

[leaden hedge]

hook the health change functions, and the bench function

and call the activate fury function

[nimble lake]

Maybe there's a way to do it through dnspy

I was told editing charms through it isn't optimal, but still possible

[leaden hedge]

dnspy sucks

and makes life way harder

[buoyant obsidian]

why is visual studio so shitty compared to visual studio code

[leaden hedge]

            if (PlayerData.instance.equippedCharm_6)
            {
                BossRush.hc.normalSlash.SetFury(true);
                BossRush.hc.normalSlashFsm.FsmVariables.GetFsmFloat("Multiplier").Value = 1.75f;
                BossRush.hc.alternateSlash.SetFury(true);
                BossRush.hc.alternateSlashFsm.FsmVariables.GetFsmFloat("Multiplier").Value = 1.75f;
                BossRush.hc.upSlash.SetFury(true);
                BossRush.hc.upSlashFsm.FsmVariables.GetFsmFloat("Multiplier").Value = 1.75f;
                BossRush.hc.downSlash.SetFury(true);
                BossRush.hc.downSlashFsm.FsmVariables.GetFsmFloat("Multiplier").Value = 1.75f;
                BossRush.hc.wallSlash.SetFury(true);
                BossRush.hc.wallSlashFsm.FsmVariables.GetFsmFloat("Multiplier").Value = 1.75f;
}

that'll be $399 ty

[nimble lake]

Where is it exactly

[leaden hedge]

wheres what

thats my code

from boss rush

which activated fury at full hp

im not programming the entire thing for you

[nimble lake]

Where do I put it

[leaden hedge]

I already did 99% of the work

[nimble lake]

because I couldn't find charms

[leaden hedge]

hook the health change functions, and the bench function

there are no charms

those are all fsms

[nimble lake]

i don't know what are fsms

Also I wanted to change the charm so it'll always be on since I'm using mods

[leaden hedge]

ok so make a mod that changes it

by hooking the health change functions

and using the code I gave you

[nimble lake]

I don't know how to make a mod either

[leaden hedge]

unlucky

[nimble lake]

also why so salty

[leaden hedge]

have you even tried to make a mod

[nimble lake]

you don't have to be like that. I'm not asking you to make a mod or anything but

[leaden hedge]

did you attempt this problem at all on your own

[nimble lake]

your responses

And yea I tried

[leaden hedge]

not with dnspy

with visual studio

and making a proper mod

[nimble lake]

You can open these files with vs?

[leaden hedge]

no

every other mod is a dll

that doesn't edit the game

[nimble lake]

Can I open these then with vs?

[leaden hedge]

you can't open the dlls

if only there was example mods that I previously linked to you

[nimble lake]

The github one?

I couldn't download it

[leaden hedge]

its a single file

you can literally make a new visual studio project

and copy the text

[nimble lake]

What type of project is this?

[leaden hedge]

a dll one

[nimble lake]

I don't have those namespaces

GlobalEnums and Modding

[leaden hedge]

https://radiance.host/apidocs/Getting-Started.html#creating-mods

[ornate rivet]

@fair yacht
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ueRCk3O5r1aqOPNuJ99mb_61qKjLukJl/view?usp=sharing
https://streamable.com/u55wg

Thanks to Sid, the music works now

[weak lodge]

can you actually make hitboxes work now

[nimble lake]

oh wait a second

there is an option to download

are you getting on my level bro

I'm getting an error over assembly-csharp

I think it doesn't know where it is

[solemn rivet]

Wait - zaliant is 26 too?

[safe hamlet]

o btw @ornate rivet, did you have to use reflection or no, i wasn't sure if what i did was needed

also that's an epic mod

[ornate rivet]

I did use reflection

it's cursed

I should turn it into custom radiance mod tbh

too bad I'm lazy

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[safe hamlet]

alright, yea

time to remake glorious comrade using code

[jovial vault]

About time

Also i have woken up in the middle of the night

Seeing KDT get tired of someone asking to be spoonfed information and literally not following instructions when spoonfed is absolutely hilarious

[safe hamlet]

he literally gave the code

i mean trying to mod with no programming background is a scary thing to do

[jovial vault]

when will someone code my mod for me smh

Google tho

I did some basic stuff because I have no programming experience and i just read the docs and used google and was fine

[safe hamlet]

you have made a mod?

[jovial vault]

I was messing around w some values and stuff

So not a big thing

[safe hamlet]

well

the thing is mino

you actually read the docs

and used google

[jovial vault]

I need to actually learn how to not code like a bitch

[safe hamlet]

and common sense

[jovial vault]

Unfortunately

Also sid

Why are you making glorious comrade

You have an ap exam in a weekish dont you

[safe hamlet]

yes, but i don't wanna study

[jovial vault]

I want to be on that level of not giving a shit

[safe hamlet]

last year i studied like a week before the ap exam and wrote absolute bs on the history ap exam

got a 5 anyways

so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jovial vault]

Tbf world history is absolute bs and its a great time

[safe hamlet]

i also didn't finish one short answer and wrote about a completely different topic on another

idk how

so ap readers grade it that leniently?

[jovial vault]

Wow

If i did that for my A level exam i would get a C tbh

[safe hamlet]

also i have a mock exam for my calc which counts as a final grade in 3 days

but here i am doing nothing

[jovial vault]

How are you not stressed out

Unless youre like crazy smart and naturally get top grades

[safe hamlet]

i have to work hard to get good grades

i envy people who naturally get good grades

[jovial vault]

Ah same

[safe hamlet]

and how am i not stressed out, i am

but not enough to make me start studying yet

[jovial vault]

Oof

At any rate good luck

[ornate rivet]

ap calc: I sleep
ap physics: pls kill me

[jovial vault]

Physics in general is Bad

[safe hamlet]

thank

you have you sat in a week right?

[jovial vault]

Yup

[hazy sentinel]

ap physics 😩

[safe hamlet]

ap physics exam is prolly one of the hardest

[hazy sentinel]

not really

curve is insane

[safe hamlet]

o

the only exam i really care about is calc bc

also how insane is the curve

[hazy sentinel]

idk the exact score cutoffs because college board meme but getting 50% of the total available points is a 4

[safe hamlet]

o

i mean calc bc is even more insane, getting around 58% composite score is a 5

[jovial vault]

Oh wow

Jeeez

[safe hamlet]

but the curve is dependent upon the average, that's just an estimation

you basically need to hope you beat the average, and you should be good for a 5

[ornate rivet]

I thought the curve was based off of how well the college students they test do

btw good luck on sat mino

[safe hamlet]

o is it? idk then

i was told it was based off the average

[gilded lotus]

@safe hamlet lemme know what you think

[safe hamlet]

damn, it's really good

thank you, greatly appreciated

[gilded lotus]

idk how unity works with looping tracks when they finish

but you should be good with that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VFebb9xLRA i used the dream battle theme like you wanted

at least the underlying rhythm

[safe hamlet]

ye i noticed

[charred parrot]

I'm pretty sure Unity's Audio Source component has a loop property

so

should be fine

[safe hamlet]

ye

[gilded lotus]

hopefully it works

[safe hamlet]

don't worry, it will work

[gilded lotus]

meanwhile

fl studio shitting itself https://puu.sh/Dli2O/5984fe4fbb.png

99% cpu load

[oak wharf]

ouch that physically hurts

I know your pain

I hate seeing that bar orange

[gilded lotus]

it doesnt like these chords at all https://puu.sh/Dli4O/71ce2bebbd.png

[safe hamlet]

quality program

[safe hamlet]

huh, what does this mean https://markoth.is-pretty.sexy/9wksdRx.png

how do i get this fsm

[copper nacelle]

what

[safe hamlet]

for _SceneManager

i can't find the fsm

[copper nacelle]

.LocateMyFSM("FSM")

[safe hamlet]

i did that

[copper nacelle]

do it better

[safe hamlet]

listen

it was null

wait maybe it wasn't

i can double check

[copper nacelle]

[safe hamlet]

i wasn't really logging as i go, so dunno

[safe hamlet]

nope, can't find the fsm

[copper nacelle]

dump SceneManager

There's an easy ref to it on GameManager

[safe hamlet]

i did, the fsm is not there

all i can see is MusicControl

[copper nacelle]

are you sure it's _SceneManager

[safe hamlet]

wdym

[copper nacelle]

are you sure you have the right object

[safe hamlet]

yes

wait

https://hastebin.com/lafanuhuhu.cs here's the dump

[copper nacelle]

maggotPrime

[safe hamlet]

wait a minute (kazoo kid style)

i might have the wrong game object

don't yell at me 56

[copper nacelle]

[safe hamlet]

that was the case lol

it's late, ok?

[copper nacelle]

nice

[safe hamlet]

i mean it was _SceneManager, was just looking in the wrong spot

[jovial vault]

unfortunate

[jovial vault]

sigh

[charred parrot]

the good ol' zero context sigh

what happened people pm'ing you again?

[solemn rivet]

just people being lazy I guess

[charred parrot]

ey

[fair rampart]

sigh more like

sign

🛑

[charred parrot]

new person in modding

what you do

[fair rampart]

nothing public

just a small personal mod that rips off exaltation's symbol of avarice

[charred parrot]

ok

[solemn rivet]

Nothing public

Hmmm

First nsfw mod confirmed

[copper nacelle]

[floral furnace]

[charred parrot]

Taco has evolved

[floral furnace]

weird way to spell devolve but monkahmm

[jovial vault]

Does anyone have any cute animal pictures

I feel like gradow when he thinks about his age

[charred parrot]

just go to r/aww

[nimble lake]

in the debug mod

what does respawn do?

Does it respawn you or enemies?

[leaden hedge]

yes

[nimble lake]

why are you trolling so much here

people are looking for answers

[leaden hedge]

did you try pressing it

[nimble lake]

I don't want to ruin myself

[leaden hedge]

also no one is looking for answers here

this channel was specifically split in 2

so we wouldn't have to read people asking about how to install mods, or what keybinds are or what they do

[gilded lotus]

What are keybinds

How do install them

[split viper]

i need a free copy of hollow knight

u bamboozled me

tbh ive played through hollow knight 2 times

just wnna get the achievements on 3rd run!

[jovial vault]

Hmmmmmmm

[nimble lake]

where can I find the better charms mod?

the one that upgrades charms when you complete pantheons

[copper nacelle]

the same place you get all the others

[nimble lake]

I couldn't find it

i looked in the google drive and the installer

[copper nacelle]

any exaltation

[nimble lake]

I think I got it from the server?

I don't remember, I just need the readme

[nimble lake]

oh nvm the mod is called exaltation

[solar jacinth]

nobody :

56 : i want to marry cyanide pills

[copper nacelle]

relatable

[hollow hearth]

56: i want to die

56: hollow knight code bad

[floral furnace]

56 youre my spirit animal

[hollow hearth]

Thank you 56 very cool

[solar jacinth]

tavo wtf

taco*

[floral furnace]

same

[jovial vault]

Sigh

[solar jacinth]

nice pfp

what happened to the gif one

tho

[copper nacelle]

i mean it's not wrong

[floral furnace]

thanks vietnam is cool i guess

[jovial vault]

Silksong releasing would be cooler

[solar jacinth]

u

[hazy sentinel]

monkaHmm

[copper nacelle]

[floral furnace]

56 how do i uhh, go back to a fucked up pull

[hollow hearth]

marry cyanide pill

profit

[solar jacinth]

same

[floral furnace]

nvm git rebase --abort worked haha phew thats 4 hours of work almost lost hahahahahahahahahahaa

[copper nacelle]

monka

[solar jacinth]

[split viper]

monka

S

[nimble lake]

the reason i ask for help here is because #archived-modding-help is dead

[solemn rivet]

is not

also, KDT is not trolling you for no reason. It's the same issue we had here a few weeks ago: some people come here and basically want us to handhold them, and get angry at us when we don't. Like you, saying you didn't wanna press respawn because it would ruin you. Really? What's the worst that could happen? You lose your save file? So what? You have debug mod installed, you can literally get to any point in the game with whichever items you had in 10 minutes flat.

http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before

[nimble lake]

I understand but it's the small flags in the file

but that's unrelated anymore

[solemn rivet]

you're missing my point completely

it's fine to ask questions

[nimble lake]

Ah, just not stupid questions?

[solemn rivet]

it's not fine to ask questions that you can answer yourself, but are just too lazy, etc. to try

so basically, yeah

[nimble lake]

got it

[solemn rivet]

seriously, tho, give that link a read

it's not only the questions themselves, but the way you write them

we're way more prone to help if instead of simply writing "can I do this?" you ask "I've already tried doing that, that other, and that another, and have failed to achieve this. I've googled it, and seems to be an issue with some such thing. Do you guys have any idea of what I could do?"

[jovial vault]

helpful tip: try to research something yourself for at least 15-20 minutes and then come back and ask a question

[solemn rivet]

even the first page in a google search should help you

[jovial vault]

and by research like, seriously try to solve your issue. esp with stuff people here have already sent you as help

ye

[nimble lake]

I understand

[jovial vault]

good luck

as much as we joke about modding being toxic, the people here will genuinely help you proportionate to how much effort you put in

[solemn rivet]

we're really here to help. I've seen mick, who isn't even a modder, spend a lot of time in modding-help helping people, even tho it's technically not his job, and that's because people in here want to help. But we've got a limited amount of time and limited patience. I have my work and studies to worry about, and so does everyone else in here. We can't really waste time answering questions that might be solved by a simple google search.

[nimble lake]

I was asking here alot of questions because my experience with programming and such is an unfinished Unity tutorial course, but I understand you guys.

[jovial vault]

that's fine tbh a lot of people who come in here don't have programming experience. myself included

but google is your friend

[nimble lake]

I guess I was also afraid since what I look for is pretty specific

I think

[young walrus]

There's also been a shit ton of resources created that relate to this game, how to mod it, how to speedrun it, example mods, etc etc etc.

there's tons of documentation for HK, but nobody ever reads or uses it

[nimble lake]

Are they all the pinned ones?

[young walrus]

so it's easy to get upset when people are pointed towards those resources, the answers are there, and they come back and still ask questions that we've given them the answers to if they put a little bit of effort into it

[solemn rivet]

I think so, Ara? Maybe either here or in modding-help, I'm not sure

[nimble lake]

Got it

[solemn rivet]

another thing, it's fine to come in here knowing little/nothing about programming

I, for one, came here back when Lightbringer first released, not knowing much outside of how to program in matlab

(not joking btw)

[young walrus]

tbf.... Matlab programming is pretty shit

[jovial vault]

weren't you in your undergrad at that time

[solemn rivet]

it is, mick

oof mino, it was not THAT long ago

[jovial vault]

lmao i joke

[solemn rivet]

HK hasn't even been out that long m8

[young walrus]

was one of my favorite courses though still

should really make an honest attempt at modding

[solemn rivet]

I graduated back in 15

or was it 14?

[jovial vault]

gradow you're not that old tbh

[young walrus]

I dunno, it's your life

how would I know when you graduated

[solemn rivet]

I always get confused

I think I graduated in 14 and started my master's in 15

yeah, I think that's right

I am, mino

[young walrus]

you're not that much younger than me then

[solemn rivet]

I think we've already had this convo, mick

I'm 26

[young walrus]

yeah but I'm old

I forget things

[solemn rivet]

same tbh

[jovial vault]

26 is not old

[solemn rivet]

I mean

[floral furnace]

masters at 15 gradow too stronk

[young walrus]

well when we have 15 y/o people in here.....

makes me feel ancient

[solemn rivet]

not 15 yo ttacco, 2015

[floral furnace]

oh that makes more sense

[jovial vault]

LMAO

[floral furnace]

hey honest mistake

[jovial vault]

just finished my undergrad, can't wait to start my masters at the ripe old age of 17

[floral furnace]

i was legit confused but considering the fact that some 9 year old is taking college calculus right now in this country i was thinking "oh gradow is one of those guys"

[solemn rivet]

yeah

also, consider 56

I rest my case

[floral furnace]

56 is a 56 year old stuck in a 15 year old body anyway

[jovial vault]

what 9 year old is taking college calculus what the fuck

[floral furnace]

his dad was an engineer and his mom was a mathematician of some sort so either theyre good at teaching him or he just has math genes

[solemn rivet]

math genes

[floral furnace]

i forgot his exact age but i think its about 9-14

[jovial vault]

i have approximately -4 math genes

[floral furnace]

nvm its apparently a fucking 8 year old taking advance calc at the top uni in this country, way to make us feel adequate

[nimble lake]

that guy next to him

is either 15 or 50

[oak wharf]

holy moly oly

[floral furnace]

wtv he doesnt even have a wr speedrun in hk so why should we care

[jovial vault]

oomf

LMAO

[fair rampart]

ikr

can he beat p5 all binds

didn't think so

[floral furnace]

id legit put p5 all binds on my resume if i had the chance, then again i didnt beat p5 all binds in the first place anyway

[teal dawn]

He's Asian.
He can probably do it blindfolded.

[fair rampart]

Lockheed Martin interviewer: So it says under your accomplishments that you "beat p5 all binds". What does that mean?

[jovial vault]

some day jngo you might be able to beat ab p5

[fair rampart]

that's not ever happening

[solar jacinth]

maybe this is unrelated but 56 dies in endgame

[jovial vault]

good for him

[solar jacinth]

maggotPrime

[fair rampart]

Any new mods

[hazy sentinel]

boss scills

[safe hamlet]

o veru, where did you find the ussr anthem wav file for glorious comrade?

apparently using a converter doesn't really work, couldn't get it to work with code™

[hazy sentinel]

i made it 🙂

[safe hamlet]

wait, really?

very cool

[dusky lion]

:ax2uHmm:

[weak lodge]

:VeruleKekeHands:

[ornate rivet]

is anyone here a statistics pro

[solemn rivet]

runs

[copper nacelle]

i did a bit of stats

[solemn rivet]

what exactly do you need saleh

[brazen mortar]

56 does everything

[copper nacelle]

it's a required class for me

[fair rampart]

see dee eff

[copper nacelle]

You have to take half of ap stat with algebra 2/precalc/whatever at my school

[brazen mortar]

disgusting

[jovial vault]

Im taking stats next year so i can die in peace

[ornate rivet]

alright cool

uhhh

[fair rampart]

Pissn

[solemn rivet]

more like poison

[ornate rivet]

So I have a bunch of categorical data (counts) with 2 groups, and I want to show that the two groups are different

Hopefully this makes sense and I am not going insane due to staying awake past 9

[solemn rivet]

well, I for one have no idea what you mean

[ornate rivet]

ok that's great

[copper nacelle]

they're independent groups right

[ornate rivet]

yes

[unborn flicker]

if A-F were disjoint you would use chi-squared

I don't remember what you do here though

[ornate rivet]

I tried but

[unborn flicker]

You could do 6 variable tests, but irl those probably aren't independent

[ornate rivet]

A,B,C,... are different types of ransomware and G1 and G2 are 2 different detection methods I used. The percentages are the accuracy I got

[unborn flicker]

https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/85608/how-do-i-compare-two-groups-by-several-dependent-variables-and-get-1-p-value-as

[gilded lotus]

racist

[ornate rivet]

thanks homothety

[safe hamlet]

@copper nacelle where are you from? your classes are quite weird

[copper nacelle]

virginia

i'm in a magnet school

[trim totem]

the gamer state

[safe hamlet]

i am from va too, not magnet school tho

had to google what that even meant

[buoyant obsidian]

oh shit I'm also in Virginia

after I graduate at least

[trim totem]

move to California

[safe hamlet]

if you mod then you must be from va

that's just how it goes

[copper nacelle]

[buoyant obsidian]

follow the rules or get out

[safe hamlet]

welp time to kick gradow out

[copper nacelle]

are you guys in nova

[safe hamlet]

south

prolly idk

somewhere around middle

[copper nacelle]

unfortunate

i'm like twenty minutes from dc

[trim totem]

this man be doxxing himself

[safe hamlet]

4 hours from dc

[trim totem]

41 hours from dc 😔

[safe hamlet]

wait

do governer's schools count as magnet schools?

[safe hamlet]

welp then i guess i am in one as well

[copper nacelle]

gamer

[safe hamlet]

epic style

41 hours

[copper nacelle]

perfect now to sift through like 10 schools to doxx sid

[trim totem]

incredible

[safe hamlet]

[copper nacelle]

don't worry making any mod doxxes you anyway

thank you google drive

[safe hamlet]

true

[trim totem]

very sad joseph

[safe hamlet]

wait i don't have my full name on google

can someone make a PoH mod so that you have to fight all modded version of the bosses?

that would be epic

[trim totem]

that would be horrible

[copper nacelle]

that would just be a detour of all the boss mods to disable their checks

i used to have all my boss mods in poh

[safe hamlet]

guess you are right

[buoyant obsidian]

I'm near VA beach

[copper nacelle]

time to go to va beach

[safe hamlet]

cool, now tell me the 16 digits on the front and 3 digits on the back of your card

also why are you both numbers

[trim totem]

you gotta have a virginia hollow knight meetup

[safe hamlet]

indeed

[buoyant obsidian]

all modders are numbers from Virginia

[safe hamlet]

time to become a number too i guess

[buoyant obsidian]

Choose wisely

[safe hamlet]

[solemn rivet]

516

or 519 I guess

maybe 510

[warped sinew]

We should have a modding meet up and all stand around ironically talking about how bad HK is

Best meet up ever

[solemn rivet]

*unironically

[leaden hedge]

only serve the finest spaghetti

[safe hamlet]

ZeroZeroThree

[jovial vault]

Hmmmm

[ornate rivet]

if 56 is 20 minutes from dc that means I can come and visit him

[jovial vault]

Move to adelaide

Come and demand more mods

Also whats a magnet school?

[warped sinew]

Move to Adelaide, make me lunch everyday

[ornate rivet]

high school where galaxy brain people go

[jovial vault]

If that gets you to breach nda

[ornate rivet]

usually you have to take an entrance exam and do stuff to apply

[jovial vault]

Interesting

[safe hamlet]

mine didn't mine was basically past scores and teacher recommendation

[jovial vault]

Most schools here have one

[safe hamlet]

but yea you have to apply

[jovial vault]

Also saleh how are you up past 9

[safe hamlet]

it's 12 am here

[ornate rivet]

this is a sad moment

I am working on a project

[safe hamlet]

stat?

[jovial vault]

Good luck

[safe hamlet]

i am working on english project getting side tracked along the way

[ornate rivet]

no, a poster on a project I've been working on the entire year (which does have stat in it)

[safe hamlet]

:glare:

entire year? like a science fair project?

[ornate rivet]

mine was a computer science related project

currently thinking of dropping out of high school, changing my age to 14, going to virginia and attempting to join 56's incredible magnet school

[safe hamlet]

lol

[ornate rivet]

56 how hard was the entrance exam

[copper nacelle]

acceptance rate is 15%

[ornate rivet]

ok this is bad news

maybe I wont dropout

[copper nacelle]

first part of the exam is english + math

english is grammar + reading comprehension

math was like algebra + geometry

if you pass that you get to take the 2nd exam

which is 3 essay questions + 1 bigger essay question

[safe hamlet]

oof

graduating is a lot better

[warped sinew]

You should drop out of highschool. All of you should drop out of college too trust me its a good idea

[leaden hedge]

just drop out of high school and try really hard at a game

if you try really hard you'll get 1 billion sales on release date

[safe hamlet]

that's how mafia life works

[charred parrot]

I told my dog go to bed and she left my room (that had her normal bed) and jumped like 3 and a half feet to sleep on my parents bed.

[warped sinew]

Don't try hard. Just take a bunch of things that work in other games and put it into your game

[charred parrot]

I feel betrayed.

[safe hamlet]

lol

[leaden hedge]

make sure to implement them incorrectly too

[charred parrot]

what are we talking about

[safe hamlet]

and also forget the word consistency

[warped sinew]

Of course, the worse you do it the more it builds a community

Pro tip

[charred parrot]

Oh game dev?

[leaden hedge]

im not talking about bad code

[warped sinew]

Oh lol

[charred parrot]

Ya make sure to have long periods of absolutely zero community interaction.

[leaden hedge]

im talking about straight up not understanding how something works, and still implementing what you think it does

[charred parrot]

Then give them a single small update about some rando enemy you made.

And then go radio silent for another month.

[leaden hedge]

like hitstop in hollow knight is wrong

[charred parrot]

something something hitstop literally freezes gametime as opposed to freezing the player and the targets hit specifically

does it matter?

naw

does it bother people who really care

[safe hamlet]

lol it does?

[charred parrot]

ya

[leaden hedge]

yeah because it doesn't do it job at all

the whole point is to convey weight behind attacks by freezing the two entities

what it does is make the game look like it lags everytime you hit something

[charred parrot]

ya and the only thing the player is going to be focusing on is either a) the player, or b) the enemy when that attack hits

from the players perception whether or not everything freezes for the sake of that extra oopmh is kinda whatever

[leaden hedge]

people notice a bunch of stuff in their peripheral vision

and even stuff directly atop the characters like particles

if it wasn't straight up impossible to work with unity to implement it properly, I'd do it in hk

and you'd definitely notice

[charred parrot]

And those really don't matter too much. Honestly imo I don't think that type of hitstun would be all too great. Last thing I need is for some shitty ass Vengefly to wander it's fat ass into my while I'm stuck in hitstun from my own attack. Now if you could break out of your own hitstun somehow then whatever, but honestly it's really only super important in fighting games.

Because there it's only you and some other dude.

[leaden hedge]

its important in literally every action game

games without feel like shit

[gilded lotus]

Graig thank you for that advice

[charred parrot]

95% of people don't care

[warped sinew]

A lot of things were just done to near enough is good enough levels. I think the idea TC had was to spend less time on nitty gritty and more time on adding more content/areas to the game.

[leaden hedge]

people do care, they might not even notice it

[gilded lotus]

So good I travelled back in time 10 yrs and dropped out

[leaden hedge]

but subconsciously it feels off

games have all these conventions for reason

[charred parrot]

hmmmmm

I may try this

[leaden hedge]

yes you shake the thing that gets hit

[charred parrot]

no the 1/20 thing as opposed to complete stop

[leaden hedge]

thats been a convention for like 24yrs

[jovial vault]

Btw lazy how was your exam

[charred parrot]

....ill tell you in 13 hours

[jovial vault]

Ooooof

Smh why are you on discord

[leaden hedge]

i mean proper keyframing + 4frames ish per sprite for 8f at 1/20th of a speed means you get through 10% of a single sprite

[charred parrot]

because I'm being bad

[leaden hedge]

so

you freeze them

unless you have very short frames

or tweened animations

[jovial vault]

Imagine your animations lining up with hitstop so it doesnt feel janky

[charred parrot]

the example used in the videos were models so a 1/20 slow down would have an effect

[jovial vault]

Imagine photoshop letting you change frame speed

[charred parrot]

also mino it would be fine

just hold a frame

[leaden hedge]

if its sfv I don't think they use tweens

but they might use very minor changes during hitstop

[charred parrot]

🤷

does that emoji have a fucking mole

[copper nacelle]

yes

[charred parrot]

holy

[safe hamlet]

w h y

[gilded lotus]

P sure that’s just the mouth

[warped sinew]

Honestly I used to be like you kdt. When they were in production and cutting corners where they could I thought it was a bad idea but they were adamant that more content > perfect mechanics

[charred parrot]

ya and whats the line above the mouth

[warped sinew]

And they proved me wrong

[gilded lotus]

Nose

[warped sinew]

Look how sucesssful the game became.

[gilded lotus]

Could be either tho

I can see both

[leaden hedge]

who cares about how successful the game is

[charred parrot]

Because the average consumer doesn't care about the nitty gritty.

[leaden hedge]

mh4 is a much better game than mhw

mhw sold better

[warped sinew]

Well TC care lol

[charred parrot]

wallets care

[warped sinew]

And you should too one day when you make a game

[gilded lotus]

When you quit your job you better care

[leaden hedge]

I'd only make a game for passion and I wouldn't ruin it by catering to the lowest common denominator

sure your average person only cares about number of things and how pretty they are

[charred parrot]

you say that now

but once you get into it

and the hours stack up

[gilded lotus]

I tested for a game like that

[safe hamlet]

i don't believe TC did it because they didn't care

[charred parrot]

finding some form of compensation will seem better and better

[safe hamlet]

they were prolly more focused on the content which is amazing in this game

[gilded lotus]

Tons of tiny mistakes here and there that they thought were fine but the community didn’t like ended up killling the game

[jovial vault]

I think things like the freeze frame being a bit off is fine and not a major flaw worth not playing the game. Or calling it catering to the lowest common denominator. That effort that it would take to tweak and fix it would be better spent in something else

[warped sinew]

TC just like making content and world building. So they did it as much as they could. Obviously they still need mechanics and a game. I feel they pulled it off very well. I don't find the mechanics of HK janky at all

[jovial vault]

Because these are things that less than a percent of your fanbase will notice

Ye same

[fair rampart]

it's almost like making games for passion and for a living aren't mutually exclusive

[charred parrot]

They aren't for the most part but its a bit messy under the hood.

And honestly I would argue it isn't that big of an issue but those under the hood things heavily impacted the switch release so

eeeeeeh

[leaden hedge]

i mean theres other things like the negative balance the game has, and things like certain mechanics just not making sense

that if they went through and really polished wouldn't be there

why does shriek suck stuff in

[charred parrot]

^^^ in a perfect world

with time

[warped sinew]

Yeah but like... You understand time and money exist right? and they ran out of both...

[fair rampart]

i'm not sure how scattered balance and mechanics issues mean the game isn't polished at all

[leaden hedge]

that spell is basically useless, because it does way too much damage to be designed for small flying shit

[charred parrot]

||but the boys made it back big time eeeeeeey||

[fair rampart]

abyss shriek is useless

[leaden hedge]

but anything else just zips their ass into you when you use it

[fair rampart]

omegalul

[leaden hedge]

i mean its fine for stuff that doesn't get pulled to you

or gets one hit

but trying having nail0 and only shreik for hornet2 or lost kin

[charred parrot]

I think the issue is that KDT is a perfectionist, and that's fine, but when you're constrained by time, money and man power it's just not an option.

[jovial vault]

^

[fair rampart]

but why would you only use abyss shriek on hornet 2

[leaden hedge]

becasue she jumps

and you have a spell that does 120 damage

to stuff above you

why wouldn't you use it

well shriek only does like 60 but still