#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 386

cunning lagoon Mar 25, 2019, 6:27 AM

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is there some way to make esc not close the game

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:27 AM

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feels good man to have people playing and enjoying something you made

cunning lagoon Mar 25, 2019, 6:27 AM

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i keep hitting that out of muscle memory

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:27 AM

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same

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:27 AM

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no sorry

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:27 AM

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i accidentally hit a text box

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:27 AM

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its hardcoded

cunning lagoon Mar 25, 2019, 6:27 AM

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GWmythiFeelsBadMan

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:27 AM

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:/

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:27 AM

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tried to mash esc

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and then e

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:27 AM

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I tried to map things to be similar to HK on keyboard

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forgot esc was pause

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:28 AM

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does the player use a rb2d

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:28 AM

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ya

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:28 AM

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:maggotPrime:

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charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:28 AM

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GET THE FUCK OFF MY CODE

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:29 AM

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maggot

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:31 AM

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oh if you want a zoom out of the level I can just give it to you

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:31 AM

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😩

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:32 AM

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young walrus Mar 25, 2019, 6:32 AM

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Ooh. What's on the left

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:32 AM

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finally a real reason to use bench storage

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left Pog

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:33 AM

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a separate combat area

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its disabled in your version though

young walrus Mar 25, 2019, 6:33 AM

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Well at least it gets to park close to the building

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:35 AM

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I can do like a weekly demo thing I guess thinkgrub

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would you guys like that?

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well if enough new stuff was made to satisfy a demo after a week

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:37 AM

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sure

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:38 AM

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So what I got though was:

Fix Bench Bug
Make Player walk speed a bit faster
Add Coyote Frames
Something is up with the double jump

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:38 AM

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fix bench maggot

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:38 AM

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yes

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fix bench bug

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Any other comments really?

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~~Also don't look at the TimerDemo classes or AbilityGiver I strung them together in like 2 seconds with tape and glue~~

vale zenith Mar 25, 2019, 6:40 AM

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My wrath was asleep guys, relax

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:40 AM

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GWbratWhy

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was looking forward to another civilian death

vale zenith Mar 25, 2019, 6:42 AM

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I don't care if I get pinged by mistake, I care if people are being entitled dumbasses

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:42 AM

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fair

rain cedar Mar 25, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Ah so most of the time

vale zenith Mar 25, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Yeah, that's why I have this channel muted

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:43 AM

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fix that mod you didn't make 😡

rain cedar Mar 25, 2019, 6:45 AM

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Hey I think I have a pretty fair policy on that

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Pay me and I will

cunning lagoon Mar 25, 2019, 6:45 AM

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he's done it

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charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:45 AM

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holy

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the sub 1 mib

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:45 AM

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while you were doing that i added noclip

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:46 AM

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_>

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first mod already

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alright

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:48 AM

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the red orb doesn't exist if you noclip there apparently

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rain cedar Mar 25, 2019, 6:48 AM

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Noclip is cool but any randomizers?

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:49 AM

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oh it's just passing the red line

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debug% 😩

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cunning lagoon Mar 25, 2019, 6:50 AM

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sub 1 is free

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charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:51 AM

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well we do have some enemies

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https://gyazo.com/1372e9a3894dd87dd0e9bbe5935fd6c1

Gyazo

▶ Play video

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they exist on the promised land which is that disabled region

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:51 AM

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are they by any chance called SmallEnemy

rain cedar Mar 25, 2019, 6:52 AM

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No that's clearly a crawlid

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:52 AM

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urite

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time to make the player a SmallEnemy

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:52 AM

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ya they're the small enemy

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their name in Unity is

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Enemy - Placeholder (Scripts)

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don't fucking ask

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why they're tagged with scripts

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:53 AM

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my player is now a small enemy

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:53 AM

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video

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:54 AM

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📎 2019-03-25_02-53-58.mp4

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he just kinda moves around

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:54 AM

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well ya

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this is literally the brain

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:55 AM

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yes

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:55 AM

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(don't ask why there's a bracket)

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:55 AM

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what bracket

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charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:55 AM

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_>

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exactly

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oh huh you dont see my spaces

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do you see my comments?

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:56 AM

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no

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:56 AM

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I don't think dnspy lets you see those

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ya

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good

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:56 AM

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you see headers and stuff

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anything that's there in il

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so local variable names die

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:57 AM

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rip

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:57 AM

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small enemy doesn't let me dash

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except upwards

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so i just get particles

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:57 AM

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well how did you make the player a small enemy

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:58 AM

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this.gameObject.AddComponent<SmallEnemy>()

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 6:58 AM

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SmallEnemy is just overriding everything I guess

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:58 AM

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yeah

cunning lagoon Mar 25, 2019, 6:58 AM

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https://youtu.be/_Zd4aXuWCwM

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unbeatable god run

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dont even try

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 6:59 AM

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gamer

cunning lagoon Mar 25, 2019, 6:59 AM

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same

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 7:00 AM

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hooooly that ending bit

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 7:00 AM

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spike pogos i sleep

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glide section with barely any gliding i awake

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 7:02 AM

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whats the consensus on Diagonal/Up Dash and Glide?

cunning lagoon Mar 25, 2019, 7:02 AM

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pretty cool

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 7:02 AM

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^

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 7:03 AM

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~~some of the others don't like them~~

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~~Their opinions are wrong~~

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kk well I've got to go to bed

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thanks guys

cunning lagoon Mar 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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elderbug

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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elderbug

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going to do the same

cunning lagoon Mar 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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elderbug

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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I'll keep you guys updated

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hope you liked it

dusky lion Mar 25, 2019, 7:05 AM

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lmao 56

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it’s only 2 am

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sleeping maggot

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this post made by time to commit voodoo death via dysphoria

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 7:06 AM

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~~Also I feel like adding a timer was a galaxy brain move on my part feels good man~~

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kk night

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Wanna know a real easy way to prevent oob, just move the player pixel by pixel and check their collision and unmove them if there's a wall in the way smh

This post made by unityphysicssuckgang

ornate rivet Mar 25, 2019, 8:20 AM

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I wish I could sleep forever

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sigh

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 8:23 AM

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same

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 10:30 AM

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this

rancid echo Mar 25, 2019, 10:37 AM

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Is there any big mods?

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Mods those change lore, locations and new charms

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Like a new game

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 10:38 AM

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new locations no

rancid echo Mar 25, 2019, 10:38 AM

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sadly

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Also spoilers kinda killed me

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So I'm waiting for Silksong and I will play it like crazy

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I just don't want to get the bad ending in Hollow Knight

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I want to get the good ending aka Killing radiance trough Dream nail

iron crown Mar 25, 2019, 10:42 AM

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Imagine not getting all of them

final radish Mar 25, 2019, 11:20 AM

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So I want to make a mod where you can get to above 112%, it has always bugged me (pun intended) that some things doesn't have a percent tied to it. Therefore I have been making a list of things that could give a %. I am however by no means a veteran of the game, so I'm sure I missed some, please let me know if there are any I missed.

I am of course also looking for someone with actual modding experience to carry out the mod.

Gold Grey Prince Zote: 2%
Weathered Mask 2%
Void Idol Attuned 1%
Void Idol Ascended 1%
Void Idol Radiant 2%
Seal Of Binding 1%
The Eternal Ordeal 57 Zote Kills 1%
Mister Mushroom Ending 1%
Nailmaster Oro Flower In Vase 1%
Elderbug Flower 1%
Flower Ending 1%
Hunters Mark 1%
The Radiance 1%
Absolute Radiance 1%

I also posted this on the reddit

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Don't know if I should put this here or in #archived-modding-help

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 11:25 AM

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so you don't want to make a mod

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you want someone else to make a mod for you

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noted

final radish Mar 25, 2019, 11:28 AM

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I just took the sentence "Discuss modding ideas" literally ? Which is what the channel note says :/ Sorry if I misunderstood something

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 11:29 AM

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yeah for feedback or help on making it

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ill even tell you where to look, theres a function in playerdata, that calculates your percentage based on bools in playerdata

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 11:34 AM

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Well he did start with "I want to make a mod where"

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 11:35 AM

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he also ended it with I am of course also looking for someone with actual modding experience to carry out the mod.

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aka

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I have no skills and i'd like to contract someone for the low price of free

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 11:35 AM

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So I want to make a mod where you can get to above 112%, it has always bugged me (pun intended) that some things doesn't have a percent tied to it. Therefore I have been making a list of things that could give a %. I am however by no means a veteran of the game, so I'm sure I missed some, please let me know if there are any I missed.

I am of course also looking for someone with actual modding experience to carry out the mod.

Gold Grey Prince Zote: 2%
Weathered Mask 2%
Void Idol Attuned 1%
Void Idol Ascended 1%
Void Idol Radiant 2%
Seal Of Binding 1%
The Eternal Ordeal 57 Zote Kills 1%
Mister Mushroom Ending 1%
Nailmaster Oro Flower In Vase 1%
Elderbug Flower 1%
Flower Ending 1%
Hunters Mark 1%
The Radiance 1%
Absolute Radiance 1%

I also posted this on the reddit

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 11:38 AM

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jngo pls

final radish Mar 25, 2019, 11:38 AM

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Thanks bois, think I'll just be leaving the discord, I see how it is :/

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 11:38 AM

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literally nothing lost, as you had no intention of putting any effort in
you didn't even ask how do I do this literally straight to the let me get someone else to do it

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ironically the mod would be real fucking easy

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few minutes

final radish Mar 25, 2019, 11:39 AM

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Don't worry, I'll be attempting this myself :)

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Had no intentions of leaving it all to others

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Thanks for the tip man :D

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 11:42 AM

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np, someone already made a mod that adds extra percentages for an old patch

final radish Mar 25, 2019, 11:42 AM

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Yup, that got me inspired

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 11:42 AM

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which does more complicated things, like add percents for all geo rocks

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:24 PM

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@final radish if you stick around and ask questions we can help you get started with modding

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That's how I got started too

final radish Mar 25, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Would love to thank you :)

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:25 PM

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But we do hate it when people simply come and say 'you should do that' but don't bother to at least put any effort

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So don't do that

final radish Mar 25, 2019, 12:26 PM

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Understandably so

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 12:26 PM

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~~nice, another to suffer with us~~

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:26 PM

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Welcome to purgatory

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Btw hey TTacco

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How's that fps mod of yours going

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👀

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 12:27 PM

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uhh literally 0 progress

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:27 PM

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Nice

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 12:27 PM

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been really itching to get back to it but school says no

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Same tbh

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Same to be tbh

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:28 PM

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2bh

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 12:28 PM

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wait i thought youre out of it

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or is this about your job

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Does uni count as school?

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 12:28 PM

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i mean, technically yes

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i guess

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:28 PM

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What about post grad?

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~~postgradow~~

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 12:29 PM

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i guess, that too?

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:29 PM

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So yeah, school

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 12:29 PM

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nice

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Postgradow just means your dead

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Hey fools teach me how to make mods uwu

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:29 PM

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What about undergradow

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GWqlabsHyperSweats

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 12:30 PM

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basically abuse checking other peoples github

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legit

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 12:33 PM

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ok so essentially i can rebrand lightbringer and be known as a super influential completely legit modder

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 12:35 PM

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ~~unless 753 calls a copyright sunstrike of death then yes~~

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 12:37 PM

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🤔

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 12:50 PM

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well I fixed the bench glitch

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probably

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:51 PM

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Which bench glitch

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 12:51 PM

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ax2uHmm

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 12:51 PM

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I posted a demo back at like

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:51 PM

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Love me sum alliteration

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 12:51 PM

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idk 1 am

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7 hours ago

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:52 PM

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I wasn't alive back then

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 12:52 PM

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Undergradow

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 12:52 PM

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they found a glitch with my benches which was baaaaaasically bench storage

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:53 PM

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Why are you storing benches tho

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 12:53 PM

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This is what happens whens you ask speedrunners to play your demo

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 12:53 PM

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its good though

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I thought it was hilarious

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:53 PM

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Wait

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You posted a demo

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 12:54 PM

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yes

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 12:54 PM

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Ye he did

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:54 PM

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grimm

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 12:54 PM

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DL speedrunned it and got sub 1 min

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 12:54 PM

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just adding that yes he did post a demo

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:54 PM

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Won't play it then

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 12:54 PM

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Can confirm there was demoing

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 12:54 PM

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aw shit

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:55 PM

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I want no part with demons tbh

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I'm a Saint boi

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Wish I could react to reactions

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 12:57 PM

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going to have to come up with a good way to throw around control of the player

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 12:57 PM

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wdym

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 12:57 PM

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setting a single enum aint doing it >_>

dusky lion Mar 25, 2019, 12:58 PM

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hey gals want mod idea

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 12:58 PM

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hi gals want mod idea, sure

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 12:59 PM

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unless its a mod that is a new game

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i dun care

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 1:01 PM

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Haha guys new idea for a mod why dont we add like 3 new areas and the abyss expansion

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:01 PM

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use a delegate function for the players update intenseface

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and do Player.UpdateFunction = MyEntity.UpdateFunction;

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then you know you don't have to do anything jank

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like hiding the player and disabling control

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then just playing an animation of player doing what you want, like say hollow knight

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 1:06 PM

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That's not how HK does it, is it?

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Sounds awfully competent

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:09 PM

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thats how hk does it,
just hides the actual player
makes a copy of the animator
and moves it around and plays animations

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then teleports the player to the end point

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:11 PM

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wait what

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run that by me again

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:12 PM

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run what by you

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:12 PM

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how does HK do it?

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do they disable the player script and then just move the sprite?

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what do you mean hide the player

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:12 PM

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makes the knight invisible and removes control

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then just moves a seperate object that also has a knight sprite/anims on it

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and makes that play the animation they want

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thats why if you get storage from inv dropping on to fireball

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you can just walk out

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and you're invisible

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:13 PM

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when do they do that?

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like on transitions?

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:14 PM

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any cutscenes afaik

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picking up items are the main ones

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:15 PM

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pretty strange

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:15 PM

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pretty much anytime the player needs to do something more complicated than play one animation

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and move slightly

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it just makes the knight invisible and moves a cutscene knight around

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:16 PM

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so when you're on a bench

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its not even a real knight

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its all a lie?

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:16 PM

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thats just one animation

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pretty sure thats the real knight

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same as standing up after seer

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:16 PM

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I like the delegate function idea

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:17 PM

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thats how I do it

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:18 PM

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how you would do it?

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 1:18 PM

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I meant using the delegate, but sure

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:18 PM

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what do you do to do it

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like what are you doing... that would involve that technique

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~~help I'm stroking out~~

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 1:19 PM

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Strike 3, you're out

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:19 PM

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its a tad messy with coroutines though

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though I guess I could just give an empty method

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:19 PM

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https://pastebin.com/0222jxPE

Pastebin

[C#] void Update() { StateTimeCount += Time.deltaTim...

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heres a statemachine that uses delegates

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technically you should have a bunch of delegates for control instead of ifs

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:22 PM

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why by frame count and not just time

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:22 PM

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then you can do cf += checkForAttack; in states that can attack

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because animations are in frames

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and ill probably want stuff to sync up nicely

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:23 PM

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that's a fair point ya

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:25 PM

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sure I could draw animations where each image is up for 3 frames (at 60fps) and go 5th image is (3*5)/60 = 0.25 so wait until 0.25seconds

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or I could just keep track of frames and use frames = 15

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:26 PM

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no I get ya

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hey KDT wanna make a vidya game?

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:27 PM

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    public void MoveExactH(float x, int strength, Entity pushSrc)
    {
        bool stopped = false;
        if(x > 0)
        {
            while(x >= 0.1f)
            {
                gameObject.transform.position += new Vector3(1/16f, 0f, 0f);
                collisions = hitboxes.CheckCollision((int)HitBox.HitBoxType.PUSHBOX, (int)HitBox.HitBoxType.PUSHBOX);
                stopped = CheckStopped(collisions, strength);
                if (stopped)
                {
                    gameObject.transform.position += new Vector3(-1 / 16f, 0f, 0f);
                    collisions = hitboxes.CheckCollision((int)HitBox.HitBoxType.PUSHBOX, (int)HitBox.HitBoxType.PUSHBOX);
                    PushHitboxListH(-0.1f, collisions, this, (int)Weight.UNMOVEABLE, this);
                    x = 0;
                } else
                {
                    PushHitboxListH(0.1f, collisions, this, strength, pushSrc);
                }
                x -= 0.1f;
            }
        } else
        {
            while (x <= -0.1f)
            {
                gameObject.transform.position += new Vector3(-1 / 16f, 0f, 0f);
                collisions = hitboxes.CheckCollision((int)HitBox.HitBoxType.PUSHBOX, (int)HitBox.HitBoxType.PUSHBOX);
                stopped = CheckStopped(collisions, strength);
                if (stopped)
                {
                    gameObject.transform.position += new Vector3(1 / 16f, 0f, 0f);
                    collisions = hitboxes.CheckCollision((int)HitBox.HitBoxType.PUSHBOX, (int)HitBox.HitBoxType.PUSHBOX);
                    PushHitboxListH(0.1f, collisions, this, (int)Weight.UNMOVEABLE, this);
                    x = 0;
                }
                else
                {
                    PushHitboxListH(-0.1f, collisions, this, strength, pushSrc);
                }
                x += 0.1f;
            }
        }
    }

here's my high quality no oob ever code

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not stolen from celeste intenseface

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:27 PM

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why would I do this when I could have bench storage thinkgrub

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doesnt celeste have issues with clipping though

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:28 PM

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only with things they disable hitboxes on

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because madeline is too far away

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which isn't solids, only stuff like spikes

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:31 PM

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why specifically those hardcoded values

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:33 PM

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why which values

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:33 PM

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0.1 and 1/16

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:33 PM

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the 1/16 is because I have my ppu as 16

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so it moves it one pixel

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:33 PM

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ah

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:34 PM

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the 0.1 is because it used to be ppu of 10

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:34 PM

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_>

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:34 PM

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but then I realised the value doesn't actually matter

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so I didn't change it

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technically I should change it to an int

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:36 PM

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but ya hey KDT wanna make a vidya game? 😛

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 1:38 PM

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does it involve the adventures of janky knight

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 1:39 PM

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that's up to you

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 1:46 PM

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The Adventures of KDTnight

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@icy geyser

icy geyser Mar 25, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Thanks

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 1:56 PM

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np!

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if you have any issues running/installing mods, refer to #archived-modding-help

icy geyser Mar 25, 2019, 1:57 PM

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I do! Thanks again @solemn rivet

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I'm happy that i can play bonfire 😄

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 1:57 PM

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notlikequirrel

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 1:59 PM

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damn that irony tho

icy geyser Mar 25, 2019, 1:59 PM

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@solemn rivet damn daniel they have alot Mods °-°

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 2:36 PM

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@fair rampart i would suggest taking off or compartmentalizing some of the proposed things into a single percentage value

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:38 PM

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wrong guy

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 2:38 PM

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o h

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:39 PM

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GWchadThinkeyes

brazen mortar Mar 25, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Jngo start modding

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Thanks for the advice

brazen mortar Mar 25, 2019, 2:45 PM

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I’m so glad jngo is learning to mod

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Time to make crystalblobbles

brazen mortar Mar 25, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Make absrad but good

final radish Mar 25, 2019, 2:45 PM

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How do you guys import into unity? If at all

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 2:45 PM

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We already have good absrad

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It's called ultrad

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Mighty hegemol when mola

brazen mortar Mar 25, 2019, 2:46 PM

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When someone teaches me how to code

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So like probably over the summer I’ll maybe mess around to see if I can make something

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:47 PM

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@final radish we don't

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we use an api that injects the mods into the game

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Fear not mola

final radish Mar 25, 2019, 2:48 PM

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I mean when changing files from the game, when making the mods

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Unity visual scripting soon

worthy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Reeee

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:48 PM

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that's what I mean, Zupreme

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mods are coded and compiled in VS

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:48 PM

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the og lightbringer did that before

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:48 PM

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(other similar C# compilers are available)

worthy sphinx Mar 25, 2019, 2:49 PM

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It’s Ogre time

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:49 PM

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before it was changed without the need of directly changing files wearytiso

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:49 PM

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Or I mean according to Sean you could just spend 5 minutes learning the basic syntax of a language then must go to stackoverflow

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:49 PM

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yeah, but even then we didn't use unity at all

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:49 PM

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i mean, ~~hes kinda not wrong~~

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:49 PM

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we just directly modded the game's files

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Mola is gonna code? Pog

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:49 PM

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I don’t believe it’s that easy but Sean god so I’ll take his word

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:50 PM

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it isnt easy

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 2:50 PM

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i do 0 minutes of syntax

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straight to stackoverflow

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:50 PM

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but like anything once you do get used to it you dont really need to keep the upkeep of having to remember it

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:50 PM

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best way to learn a new language is to shit out any code and post it here

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 2:50 PM

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i dont think thats true

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:51 PM

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and people will teach you how to fix it

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 2:51 PM

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people forget their native language if they dont use it

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:51 PM

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I’m actually going to go learn the c# syntax because modding, also you don’t need stack overflow you just need a @ symbol and 56

dusky lion Mar 25, 2019, 2:51 PM

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‘’’
<html>
<\html>
‘’’

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what do you think of my code 🙂

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:51 PM

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lovely finch

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Lovely

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:51 PM

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but knowing why x works is more important imo, i aint pro but yeah it never hurts to revisit your old lang

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:52 PM

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btw, should I call you Camilla?

brazen mortar Mar 25, 2019, 2:52 PM

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@ 56 teach me how to code this summer emilitia

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Mola thats literally all there is to it

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:52 PM

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teach me daddy 56

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:52 PM

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finch answer question u won’t

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:52 PM

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but yeah knightmere once you get oop shit it gets fun ~~not really but kinda~~

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 2:53 PM

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But you need a computer science degree to be able to use the mod installer

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:53 PM

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that's true

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Really fun searching for a resolution for that one fucking bug for 2 hours huh

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:53 PM

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thats normal in my experience

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sometimes it takes 6 hours

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i mean provided you procastinate inbetween

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:53 PM

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or even more, in some cases

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like

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Ttacco gun mod

dusky lion Mar 25, 2019, 2:53 PM

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you can call me and

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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i just go to sleep

dusky lion Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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whatever you want

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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probably

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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I've been stuck on this bug for like 6 months

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Hi and

dusky lion Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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ttacco gun mod

brazen mortar Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Hiya and

dusky lion Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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die

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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probably

dusky lion Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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die

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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i try to go to sleep, then the bug haunts me

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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what bug was it 🅱radow

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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I’ll call finch qt 🙂

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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and my brain does big brain solve

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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hi and

brazen mortar Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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By finch do you mean and?

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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but i thought bugs just go to the feature list 🤔

dusky lion Mar 25, 2019, 2:55 PM

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56 react ech to knightmere message

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:55 PM

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56 is at school

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I took the day off

dusky lion Mar 25, 2019, 2:55 PM

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why

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 2:55 PM

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56 is gay hollowdab

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Cause

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Ech

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:55 PM

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the cdash not working properly on blackmoth, ttacco

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:55 PM

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mola, by and you mean qt?

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 2:56 PM

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and more like b&

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:56 PM

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oh yeah i remember you fixing that now

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:56 PM

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I haven't

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and prolly never will

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 2:56 PM

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QT is an application GUI framework with extensions to the C++ and Python languages

brazen mortar Mar 25, 2019, 2:56 PM

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It’s a feature

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:56 PM

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wait i thought you did

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i remember you even showed the demo

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what

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:56 PM

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See jngo got the joke finally lol 😂

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 2:56 PM

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i think qt has c# bindings too

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:57 PM

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imagine using C++

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 2:57 PM

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i use c++ FeelsBadMan

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Does it have JavaScript bindings

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:57 PM

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pensiveloaf

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Ech c++

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Does it have extensions to raw hex

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 2:57 PM

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i regularly do stuff that needs me to borrow memory from other programs

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and apparently c# and python suck at that

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:58 PM

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understandable wearytiso , i still see people using c++ for other stuff too

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because its that or shoving python in your face

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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I mean, I wanted to implement a functional multidirectional cdash

dusky lion Mar 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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haha guys scratch joke heehoo i know scratch haha he he ho godwin

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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but the knight kept slowly falling while dashing

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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frame0 = getAddressList().getMemoryRecordByDescription("frame 0")
frame1 = getAddressList().getMemoryRecordByDescription("frame 1")
frame2 = getAddressList().getMemoryRecordByDescription("frame 2")
frame3 = getAddressList().getMemoryRecordByDescription("frame 3")
frame4 = getAddressList().getMemoryRecordByDescription("frame 4")
frame5 = getAddressList().getMemoryRecordByDescription("frame 5")
frame6 = getAddressList().getMemoryRecordByDescription("frame 6")
frame7 = getAddressList().getMemoryRecordByDescription("frame 7")
frame8 = getAddressList().getMemoryRecordByDescription("frame 8")
frame9 = getAddressList().getMemoryRecordByDescription("frame 9")

fpac = getAddressList().getMemoryRecordByDescription("fpac first")

address = fpac.GetCurrentAddress()

i = 0

if timer == nil then
  timer = createTimer(nil, false)
end

timer.Interval = 300

timer.OnTimer = function(timer)
    str = ReadString(address + (i * 48), 15)
    i = i + 1

    if string.match(str, "JONB") then
       timer.Enabled = false
    else
        sprite = str
        print(sprite)

        frame0.Value = sprite
        frame1.Value = sprite
        frame2.Value = sprite
        frame3.Value = sprite
        frame4.Value = sprite
        frame5.Value = sprite
        frame6.Value = sprite
        frame7.Value = sprite
        frame8.Value = sprite
        frame9.Value = sprite

        Sleep(100)

        cmd = string.format("c:/ggxrd/screenshot.bat c:/ggxrd/sprites/%s.png", str)
        os.execute(cmd)
    end
end

timer.Enabled = true

shy cloak Mar 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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A double dash like pikachu from smash would be neat

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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scratch more like agony

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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and I couldn't for the life of me cancel out of the cdash animation

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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imagine having to use cmd line to run a program to take a screen shot intenseface

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because lua can't do it

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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couldnt you override the hero controller field or method which pulls you down for that

solemn rivet Mar 25, 2019, 3:00 PM

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tried to

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no dice

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 3:00 PM

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oof

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what is this for kdt

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:00 PM

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ripping sprites from ggxrd

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theres also this that rips hitboxes

hitboxes = getAddressList().getMemoryRecordByDescription("framedata")
phitbox = hitboxes.getCurrentAddress()
print(readString(phitbox+6))
hurtboxcount = readSmallInteger(phitbox + 45)
hitboxcount = readSmallInteger(phitbox + 47)
hitboxstart = phitbox + 215
if hurtboxcount > 0 then
   print("Clsn2: " .. tostring(hurtboxcount))
end
j = 0
for i = 1, hurtboxcount do
    x1 = math.floor(readFloat(hitboxstart+j+0)*-1.5)
    y1 = math.floor(readFloat(hitboxstart+j+4)*1.5)
    x2 = math.floor(x1 - readFloat(hitboxstart+j+8)*1.5)
    y2 = math.floor(y1 + readFloat(hitboxstart+j+12)*1.5)
    print("  clsn2["..tostring(i-1).."] = "..tostring(x1)..","..tostring(y1)..","..tostring(x2)..","..tostring(y2))
    j = j + 20
end
if hitboxcount > 0 then
   print("Clsn1: " .. tostring(hitboxcount))
end
for i = 1, hitboxcount do
    x1 = math.floor(readFloat(hitboxstart+j+0)*-1.5)
    y1 = math.floor(readFloat(hitboxstart+j+4)*1.5)
    x2 = math.floor(x1 - readFloat(hitboxstart+j+8)*1.5)
    y2 = math.floor(y1 + readFloat(hitboxstart+j+12)*1.5)
    print("  clsn1["..tostring(i-1).."] = "..tostring(x1)..","..tostring(y1)..","..tostring(x2)..","..tostring(y2))
    j = j + 20
end

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 3:03 PM

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this looks painful tbh

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:03 PM

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then you can have super accurate hitboxes like this

📎 unknown.png

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 3:03 PM

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diff of the red boxes from the blue ones?

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:03 PM

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blue is where you can get hit

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red is where you can hit

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 3:03 PM

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ohhh i get

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:04 PM

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theres ~1400 sprites

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and around 1600 frames of animation

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per character and theres like 20 characters

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aka too much effort to manually rip

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 3:05 PM

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im not good at math but all im saying that equates to a fuckton

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it looks good tho

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:06 PM

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technically I need to redo it

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because I can get extremely good colour seperated sprites with a new method I came up with

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but it requires me to rip each sprites like 40 times

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and it takes like 30minutes per character

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 3:06 PM

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damn, was about to ask how long it is

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:07 PM

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its mainly photoshop thats slow

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the actual getting of 1400 images takes about 3-4 minutes

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photoshop is just slow af

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 3:08 PM

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oh i thought it was the actual extraction that took the longest time, how big is the files usually

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per character at least

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:09 PM

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about 125mb

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around 100kb per sprite

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 3:09 PM

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n i c e

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:11 PM

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but the way I did it was applying a unique colour to each section of the model so it'd look like this

📎 elp000_00.png

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but instead I could make each section white, and everything else black, and it'd only render that section
removing all colour bleeding and making the colours sharper

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but Id need to rerip it for every section

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 3:14 PM

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so doing the latter will slow down the extraction then?

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:14 PM

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i mean it'd extract just as fast, I'd just have to extract way more sprites

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then I have to process them too

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it'd go from ~1400 to 42000-84000 sprites

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depending on how many seperate colours I wanted

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 3:16 PM

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wait wouldnt that make the entire size problem even worst

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:17 PM

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the problem isn't size

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its how slow photoshop is at processing sprites

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 3:17 PM

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use another program?

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 3:17 PM

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ps is pretty good tho

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:17 PM

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it has to crop them, remove the background, which is pure black, and then index them

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 3:17 PM

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it is, but ye

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:18 PM

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I could just program my own batch processor

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 3:18 PM

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thats like big brain idea

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:18 PM

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which i probably will have to do anyway, as I'll need to merge a bunch of images

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as the sprites will come out as "000_00-boot", "000_00-skin" etc

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 3:21 PM

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that shouldnt take you too long tho right ~~considering some of these stuff is way above me feeble experience~~

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:23 PM

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it'd be way faster and easier if the screenshot program saved as bmp

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 3:23 PM

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https://gyazo.com/e9b1a41b2ff99c84f8e616b550f5b554

Gyazo

▶ Play video

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Bzz

buoyant obsidian Mar 25, 2019, 3:24 PM

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sharex can take screenshots as bmp

floral furnace Mar 25, 2019, 3:24 PM

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thanks google

📎 20190325213725_1.jpg

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igotlazy make sure to put the volumes on that sawblade as loud as possible

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:26 PM

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well im not pressing a button to save it

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i don't think I can run sharex via cmd

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wouldn't be a problem if lua had screenshot binds intenseface

buoyant obsidian Mar 25, 2019, 3:27 PM

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🤔

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https://getsharex.com/docs/command-line-arguments

ShareX - Screen capture, file sharing and productivity tool

ShareX is an open source program that lets you take screenshots or screencasts of any selected area with a single key, save them in your clipboard, hard disk or instantly upload them to over 80 different file hosting services.

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you can command line it I think

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:28 PM

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oh you can do -RectangleRegion

buoyant obsidian Mar 25, 2019, 3:28 PM

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I'm not sure if it might bug out though if you take 1000 screenshots a second

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because the toast

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:28 PM

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it delays anyway

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0.1 seconds per screenshot

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as it has to wait for the game to update the model

buoyant obsidian Mar 25, 2019, 3:29 PM

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idk if command line is different but hotkeys have a limit of .2 seconds per screenshot for some reason

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although you should be able to just edit it in dnspy to lower

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might lead to strange behavior

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 3:30 PM

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thats probably just double press protection

buoyant obsidian Mar 25, 2019, 3:31 PM

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it is

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but idk why the limit is there

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you'd think it'd be less than .2 minimum

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so it might be dual purpose

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 3:42 PM

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@charred parrot oki so i finally played the demo and:

i think i'm just used to hk but swathe felt a tiny bit too long? could just be weird unity hitboxes
what kurosh said about a couple of extra frames where you can jump at the end
the "jumps" in the wall jump feel a bit to small to me personally

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the double jump is really floaty and nice

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gl w/ it!

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 3:44 PM

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what do you mean by a tiny bit too long?

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like she herself is too tall?

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 3:44 PM

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ye

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 3:45 PM

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ok and what do you mean by the wall jump is too small?

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like not enough movement in the horizontal?

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 3:46 PM

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yes

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 3:48 PM

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was trying to emulate the HK wall jump a bit by how snappy it was while still making double wall jumps... not shit

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~~since wall jumping with two walls in hk is pretty trash~~

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 3:48 PM

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understandable, i think it just felt off to me bec i'm not used to playing hk on keyboard and rip my controller

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oh ye the double wall jumps are good

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also ** i meant vertical

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 3:49 PM

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oh

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oooooh

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k that's different

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 3:49 PM

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when you jump off the wall and jump back on

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ye

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i am just blind

shy cloak Mar 25, 2019, 3:50 PM

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like single wall climbing?

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 3:50 PM

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yup

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 3:51 PM

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I can make the wall jump give a bit more height

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but it's almost giving as much as a regular jump

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regular jump sets y vel to 17.75 while wall jump is 15.5

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I'll turn it up to 16

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I think Swathe takes up too much of the screen

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hmmm

📎 unknown.png

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ya I need to pull it back

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it's like set to her actual size if she was poofed into HK

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not as a protag

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:03 PM

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one of the bosses I want to redesign is Markoth

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i have a few ideas to make his fight a lot more engaging and fun

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:04 PM

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u telling me

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that dude aint fun

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:09 PM

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change the spears to spawn only on-screen, and near him as close as possible
make his Dreamshields retractable such as what the Knight's goes through when taking a hit
add Radiance-esque spear patterns centered around the player below 10% health but while still being dogdeable
Disabling Markoth's body dealing contact damage to counterbalance 2 and 3

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:10 PM

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No floor

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:10 PM

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yeah i'd also spike the floor but only on some occasions

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i.e. for 30 seconds

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:10 PM

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thats an eternity

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:10 PM

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so you can't just meme him by standing on the floor and screaming him

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:12 PM

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idea

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mod

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scills

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:12 PM

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@copper nacelle Would you happen to know by the way how I can get rid of the Hyper-V ethernet switch that gets created everytime I restart my PC?

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:12 PM

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@river eagle I know I'm not the person who you're asking, but, have you tried just disabling it in Device Manager?

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:13 PM

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this on the right

📎 unknown.png

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Oh wait a second

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Yes but everytime I disable it it appears again

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:13 PM

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That can be removed via Windows Features IIRC

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it's...really weird

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Actually if I disable it and restart my PC, it creates a new one alongside the disabled one

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and they just keep piling up indefinitely

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I can remove it from device manager yeah but it just creates a new one

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Uninstall docker

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Or give up either works

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:14 PM

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@fresh cipher if you end up making a markoth mod i'm sure half of this server would be very thankful

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:14 PM

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...

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That's it?

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There's nothing else that can be done?

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I even disabled it from the hyper-v manager settings

📎 unknown.png

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yet it still appears

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:15 PM

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wait, are you on a virtual machine?

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Nah, I'm using Docker

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:15 PM

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oh

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:16 PM

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Yeah I know this language isn't going to help at all but that thing called "oletuskytkin" is the problem

📎 unknown.png

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It means "default switch"

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:16 PM

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47081205/simple-instructions-needed-for-enabling-and-disabling-hyper-v-docker

Stack Overflow

Simple instructions needed for enabling and disabling Hyper V Docker

I have asked something similar before, but I was wondering if someone could give me some very simple instructions for how I can turn off HyperV Container features so that I can use Virtual Box and ...

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:16 PM

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There is a button to delete the switch

📎 unknown.png

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but it does nothing

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like pressing it does absolutely nothing

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:16 PM

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you need to use CMD then

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 4:16 PM

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And then you'll have to enable it again after you want to use docker again

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GWmemetownOMEGALUL

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

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... That's quicker than reinstalling docker entirely at least

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Deleting that is a terrible idea anyways

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

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haliitti you're finnish?

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Unless you want your docker container to have no internet

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Yes I am

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

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@jovial vault i just want to know where I can start modding bosses

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as in...what software to get

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

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And I assume you're too since you recognized the language

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

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best to ask modding staff

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

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can you talk like a rally driver

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

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?

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:17 PM

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nope i'm not finnish, i did dabble in it a bit because i'm into linguistics

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:18 PM

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I can't believe someone actually knows about rally english

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5/5

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:18 PM

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rally english is best english

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:18 PM

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lmao

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:18 PM

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finnish people roll their r's too much

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Pronouncing "r" in english is the most difficult thing for us

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:19 PM

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i still can't differenciate between y and u consistently despite learning it for a couple of months oof

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Everytime I try it it just sounds like gibberish so I just use hard r's too even though it does sound rather stupid

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

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accents are cool so that's fine

buoyant obsidian Mar 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

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never use the hard r

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

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i roll my rs a lot too

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:20 PM

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I think people understand me better if I use the hard r

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Trying to pronounce it just makes the whole word incomprehensible

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:21 PM

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say gamer out loud it will help 😎

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:21 PM

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i have negative tongue control

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I can't whistle or roll my rs

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:21 PM

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i cant do both

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:21 PM

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get on my level lads

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

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either*

buoyant obsidian Mar 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

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I'll never understand not being able to whistle

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

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i just cant

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nor can i roll my r's

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

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just practice tbh

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

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no i literally cant

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Does rolling an r mean the same thing as using a hard r?

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:23 PM

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no

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 4:23 PM

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no

buoyant obsidian Mar 25, 2019, 4:23 PM

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nope

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:23 PM

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a rolled r is when the sound repeats

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like the r vibrates

buoyant obsidian Mar 25, 2019, 4:23 PM

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most Americans only consider "hard r" a part of American slang

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having words end in er instead of a

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:24 PM

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gamer

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:24 PM

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afaik finnish only has rolled rs

buoyant obsidian Mar 25, 2019, 4:24 PM

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exactly

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:24 PM

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whereas english has only normals rs

buoyant obsidian Mar 25, 2019, 4:24 PM

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like gamer vs game-a

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:24 PM

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game-a sounds too austrailian

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 4:25 PM

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oy chap

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:25 PM

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game-uh

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:25 PM

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56 go back to school

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shit this is an austrailian server

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 4:25 PM

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I'm in school right now

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:25 PM

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oy chaps

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 4:25 PM

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GWchadMEGATHINK

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:25 PM

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So what would this be called in english

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https://translate.google.com/?hl=en#view=home&op=translate&sl=fi&tl=en&text=r

Google Translate

Google's free service instantly translates words, phrases, and web pages between English and over 100 other languages.

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Use the "listen" thing to hear how it's pronounced in finnish

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 4:26 PM

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r

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:26 PM

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then compare to the english one

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:26 PM

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r

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:26 PM

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rolled

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:26 PM

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r

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r

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:26 PM

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thats a rolled r

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it repeats

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:26 PM

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ah right

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:26 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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ya this'll do it >_>

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:26 PM

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Well that's what we use for everything

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:26 PM

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yeah english doesn't have them at all

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we don't even have the flick you do to make the sound

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:27 PM

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And that makes pronouncing it so annoying hollowsad

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:27 PM

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hal

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https://translate.google.tt/?hl=en&tab=rT#view=home&op=translate&sl=en&tl=fi&text=gamer

Google Translate

Google's free service instantly translates words, phrases, and web pages between English and over 100 other languages.

copper nacelle Mar 25, 2019, 4:27 PM

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x5fiftCease

mossy pike Mar 25, 2019, 4:27 PM

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"KDT - Today at 17:24
whereas english has only normals rs"

english-centred statement 😩

buoyant obsidian Mar 25, 2019, 4:27 PM

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how do you pronounce grrrrr

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:28 PM

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gay-mugghr

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:28 PM

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gay

mossy pike Mar 25, 2019, 4:28 PM

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you pronounce it "uwu"

buoyant obsidian Mar 25, 2019, 4:28 PM

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do your wolves roll their r's

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:28 PM

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The pronouncing in that was actually incorrect knight

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He didn't roll the r in the end

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:28 PM

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whats the normal number of coyote frames?

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that most platformers use

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:28 PM

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?

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:28 PM

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3 to 4?

buoyant obsidian Mar 25, 2019, 4:28 PM

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what's a coyote

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:28 PM

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hmm hold on

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:28 PM

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i-frames

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:29 PM

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well finnish only has voiced alveolar trill and english only has I don't know the name of it so they are normal rs intenseface

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its 4ish

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:29 PM

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frames you can still jump right after walking off the ledge

buoyant obsidian Mar 25, 2019, 4:29 PM

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ah that's a neat term for it

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:30 PM

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@weak lodge https://translate.google.com/?hl=en#view=home&op=translate&sl=fi&tl=en&text=gam e r
This is actually how it would be pronounced in finnish

Google Translate

Google's free service instantly translates words, phrases, and web pages between English and over 100 other languages.

mossy pike Mar 25, 2019, 4:30 PM

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but normal r are guttural R like in German or French hklove

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:30 PM

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just like normal eaux sounds like o

weak lodge Mar 25, 2019, 4:30 PM

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what the hell

mossy pike Mar 25, 2019, 4:30 PM

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lol true

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:31 PM

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english has a post-alveolar approximant

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveolar_and_postalveolar_approximants

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this for you non linguist peasants

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english has several r sounds but it doesn't write them down because haha imagine having a phonetic language (every word is written as its spoken)

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:32 PM

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aka normal r

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:32 PM

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english r is super weird cause im used to a rolled r

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until age 10 i couldnt pronounce the english r

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Alright so that wikipedia link that you just posted perfectly sums up my difficulties with english

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:32 PM

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the easiest place to mod a boss is in the Hall of Gods, right

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:32 PM

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ye

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Fucking impossible to make the r not roll and at the same time have it sound like an r

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:33 PM

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i mean no language is perfect

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:33 PM

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english is 4 languages in a trenchcoat

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:33 PM

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french sucks

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:33 PM

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french is terrible don't get me started

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:33 PM

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lets be real

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:33 PM

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exceptions in exceptions

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Finnish is actually a phonetic language

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it's pretty nice

mossy pike Mar 25, 2019, 4:33 PM

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you just need to git gud grubfather

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:33 PM

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yes! that's why finnish is extremely cool

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finnish is essentially very regular

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code but a spoken language

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:34 PM

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You just have to list out the sounds of all the letters in a word in order and that's literally the correct way to pronounce all words in the entire language

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:34 PM

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exactly

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:35 PM

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you know whats nice japanese
you can take extremely common words like 今 ima & 日 nichi
and put them together and get 今日 ~~imanichi~~ oh wait its kyou

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:35 PM

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french: here's a word half of the vowels are pronounced how you think they should never be pronounced viva la revolution

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ok kay dee tee

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 4:35 PM

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weeb

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:35 PM

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but atleast everything has no pronounciation issues intenseface

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:35 PM

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weebanese

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:36 PM

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It would be nice having a phonetic language that also had simple grammar rules

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:36 PM

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who needs to be consistent

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:36 PM

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use German

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or Russian

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:36 PM

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No

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I'd rather not spend 5 seconds just to say 1 word

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:36 PM

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esperanto actually

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:36 PM

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german is funny though

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:36 PM

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esperanto is...eh

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:36 PM

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it's a constructed language meant to be learned by people speaking a european language

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honestly fair enough

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it's very simple

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why had modding turned into a language chat lol

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:37 PM

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huh looks interesting

fresh cipher Mar 25, 2019, 4:37 PM

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how well does it work?

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:37 PM

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they are like this holds breasts what shall we call it
breast holder = Büstenhalter

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:38 PM

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alright honestly?

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nice choice of words

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:38 PM

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German = Galaxy Brain language

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:38 PM

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whats this a glove, no this is a handshoe

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Hebrew is kinda funny too

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Dragon = Lohikäärme
Lohi = Salmon
Käärme = Snake

epic

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:38 PM

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it was a dead language for a bit so it never got a chance to really

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name things

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so most names for modern day tech is just english

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:39 PM

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and this one guy went "hey guys i want to revive an ancient language thats been dead for a thousand years"and thats literally why hebrew is a living language again

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ye

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:39 PM

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like 60% of new words in japanese are english words for common nouns, mainly tech related

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:39 PM

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or even a bit of french

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:39 PM

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it's that way with a lot of language

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:39 PM

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and that never died

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:39 PM

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a lot of words for tech in my native language are english loans

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:40 PM

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except french who try really hard to not have english words

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:40 PM

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~~too hard~~

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:40 PM

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But what are the original english words based on then ? hollowwoke

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:40 PM

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but not hard enough apparently

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they say wifi like wee-fee Kappa

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:40 PM

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germanic and latin roots @river eagle

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:41 PM

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can confirm they say wifi like they need to go to the bathroom

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:41 PM

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lmao

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:41 PM

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But like when a completely new tech for example is invented, how is a name chosen for it actually

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:41 PM

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idk some dude just calls it whatever

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Are they just like "uh yeah let's put these letters in this order and call that thing it"

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:41 PM

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in english they are almost always named after something else

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:41 PM

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basically yes

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:41 PM

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bluetooth is a nordic guy

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computer is just compute+er

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:41 PM

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heres a phone

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its cool

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iPhone

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:42 PM

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blue and tooth are both english words though

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:42 PM

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genius

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:42 PM

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phones are just latin

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Bluetooth

Harald Bluetooth

Harald "Bluetooth" Gormsson (Old Norse: Haraldr Gormsson, Danish: Harald Blåtand Gormsen, died c. 985/86) was a king of Denmark and Norway.
He was the son of King Gorm the Old and of Thyra Dannebod. His father had been the first historical recognized ruler of the Danish king...

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:42 PM

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The original inventors of latin must have had fun

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:42 PM

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they were also like people who came speaking older languages

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:42 PM

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pretty sure language isnt invented by some dudes sitting around a table

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:43 PM

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ye

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:43 PM

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and deciding what to call things

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:43 PM

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the nice thing about english

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is it has pretty complete eytomology

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:43 PM

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honestly thats why programming made me go 👀 because it's just a bunch of languages

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:43 PM

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so you can look up exactly where words came from

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:43 PM

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ye

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Ironic how many words in finnish were literally invented by some dudes sitting around a table

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:44 PM

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i know that's funny

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like "standard" finnish is a lot of that

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:44 PM

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is English the most spoken

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:44 PM

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You know quite a lot about this stuff it seems

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:44 PM

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or is it still Madarin due to china

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Do you perhaps study languages?

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:44 PM

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no english isn't the most spoken?

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ye

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:45 PM

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fucking China

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:45 PM

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i'm going to be going into linguistics

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Chinese is probably the most spoken one. Then spanish I would guess

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:45 PM

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no

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hindi i believe

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let me check

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:45 PM

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oh right yeah

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:45 PM

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fucking Asia

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:45 PM

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mandarin/english/hindi

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smh racist much

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:45 PM

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smh my head

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:45 PM

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ah no i was wrong

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:45 PM

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I hate half the planet

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:45 PM

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english / spanish / chinese / hindi

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Disgusting Chinese people

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:45 PM

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actually 3/4ths of the planet

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 4:46 PM

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I hate ~~myself~~ them

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:46 PM

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ok then

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:46 PM

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I study immunology and microbiology

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who wants to learn about crippling diseases

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Maybe after this language chat

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:46 PM

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and why Africa is a terrible continent

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:46 PM

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i thought you were a compsci major dang

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not a med student

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Hungarian is also an interesting language

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:47 PM

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africa sucks cause we drew a bunch of lines in the desert

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:47 PM

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soon(tm)

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:47 PM

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If I remember correctly it has even more cases than finnish

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:47 PM

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and now everyone hates each other

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:47 PM

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ye

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Africa sucks because Malaria

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:47 PM

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hungarian and finnish are from the same family

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:47 PM

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and woooooooorms

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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The ugric family

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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i mean to be fair the british did that w/ asia too

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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so many worms

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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ye finno-urgic

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aka uralic

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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we did it with the middle east and africa FeelsGoodMan

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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wearytiso

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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is it really a FeelsGoodMan

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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thanks guys! wearytiso

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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we got atleast 2 oils out of it

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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chinese is the most spoken sheerly because of their population

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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only as a native language

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:48 PM

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english is because of imperialism so

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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pretty much everyone speaks english as a 2nd language

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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ye

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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as its a lingua franca

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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language of the internet

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and business

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kinda hard not too

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Do americans speak english as a second language too?

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Oh right yeah they do probably

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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...

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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mexicana

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Yeah we speak American primarily

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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hollowface

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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can't wait for lingua franca to change

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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American primarily

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english second

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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no most americans only speak english

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:50 PM

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to lingua not franca

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:50 PM

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like they get education on another language but cant speak it. like finns with swedish

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:50 PM

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i don't know the latin word for english

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 4:50 PM

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We speak American dungo 🇺🇸

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:50 PM

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english

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:50 PM

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You even know about that? zote

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also fuck sw*dish

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:50 PM

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whp needs other languages when you've got Freedom

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:50 PM

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grimmwink im a language person

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freedom and oil

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:50 PM

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and guns

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 4:50 PM

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everyone should just speak IPA

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:50 PM

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several people and typic

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:51 PM

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who needs any languages other than japanese, thats all you need to read doujins

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:51 PM

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everyone should speak binary

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:51 PM

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and thats all you really need in life

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:51 PM

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IPA isn't a language you fool it's just a script

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:51 PM

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It's actually even rather socially unacceptable to be good at speaking swedish here

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:51 PM

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ye

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Many people even pretend to be worse at it than they actually are

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:51 PM

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so like french people and english

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:51 PM

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If you got good grades from swedish at school that was a suicide

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:51 PM

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a lot of people with english here

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 4:51 PM

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that seems counterproductive

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Do Americans not like it when you speak a non-english language

weary oyster Mar 25, 2019, 4:52 PM

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swedish is basically useless compared to english anyway

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:52 PM

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all swedes speak english

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 4:52 PM

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we don't like it because we don't understand

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:52 PM

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yeah basically

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scary brown man speaking scary language i dont understand

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:52 PM

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like sweden basically has about the same amount of english speakers per capita as the us

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:52 PM

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gnarly

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how long until english overtakes mandarin

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Swedish as a language should be easy to learn

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But nobody wants to learn it wearytiso

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:53 PM

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english has overtaken mandarin as most spoken, mandarin still has more natives

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:53 PM

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english already did

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 4:53 PM

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until china falls apart

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:53 PM

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eng has more ESL (english second lang) speakers

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:53 PM

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i mean china probably counts all the chinese speakers as native mandarin

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:53 PM

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I would assume english would have more english second language speakers... than madarin

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:54 PM

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even though they probably speak some other dialect

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like wu/cantonese

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:54 PM

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what are you talking about

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China acknowledging other groups?

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:54 PM

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ye

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:54 PM

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crazy

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:54 PM

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lmao

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 4:54 PM

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thankyou british empire for making english the dominate language

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:55 PM

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ya thanks COLONIALISM

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:55 PM

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we also invented other stuff

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:55 PM

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thank you british empire for imperialism and colonialism and just terrible times in this region uwu

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:55 PM

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like machines and steam and computers

fair rampart Mar 25, 2019, 4:55 PM

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you invented a state of matter?

river eagle Mar 25, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Where are you from mino?

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:55 PM

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yep

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before us water didn't boil

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:55 PM

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can confirm

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was there

leaden hedge Mar 25, 2019, 4:55 PM

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no matter how hot it wouldn't turn into steam

jovial vault Mar 25, 2019, 4:55 PM

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im vaguely from asia

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the entire continent

charred parrot Mar 25, 2019, 4:56 PM

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you know what doesnt click with me mentally

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Russians being Asian