archived-modding-development

[solemn rivet]

not really

if we had a water/any other element moth, we'd have two opposite pairs of moths

blackmoth as radiance's counterpart

and the other moth as redwing's counterpart

[solemn basin]

What if you use both mods? Would that change things?

[solemn rivet]

as they are right now, they complement eachother

but that would be if we ever got around to remaking those mods

[solemn basin]

Ah, gotcha. Good luck with whatever you opt to do.

[solemn rivet]

nothing

irl > mods

[solemn basin]

Priorities. IRL is definitely more important.

[solemn rivet]

ye

I was actually planning on returning to modding this semester

I had already talked to 56 and forced asked him to help me

but sadly something else came up

[solemn basin]

Life always throws a curveball.

[solemn rivet]

it's not a bad thing that came up

the only sad part is I don't have spare time

[solemn basin]

Well that's a plus. Hopefully it's a good opportunity. And you may find spare time later on.

[solemn rivet]

that's the idea!

[untold moth]

are hell mod and lightbringer the same mod?

my damage is so low dude

out of hp out of soul out of damage

[dusky lion]

yes they are in fact the same mod

[untold moth]

dang never would have guessed before playing

dont get me wrong im really enjoying it

just a tad more challenging than vanilla and rando lol

[brazen mortar]

Finch just performed the usage of verbal irony

Saying something while really meaning the other

[dusky lion]

woW!

[brazen mortar]

Thus totally bamboozling the clueless person just looking for help

Good job finch!

Another member of the hollow knight reddit discord community totally bamboozled

[dusky lion]

56 are you lurking

[untold moth]

he reacted to my original comment

so... sorry 56 <_<

[silk jetty]

I'm gonna try my first noclaw rando

[silk jetty]

tfw when

[fair rampart]

spiderdick left you behind

[silk jetty]

I had to savequit because I killed the guy before the gates closed with weaverlings

I have a conundrum here

it's a good item but my geo count is perfect

[onyx osprey]

hey @copper nacelle for some reason Visual Studio is failing to load the project. any ideas?

[copper nacelle]

any error info

[onyx osprey]

nope

[copper nacelle]

[onyx osprey]

just "load failed"

I'll try some stuff, like maybe reinstalling VS

oh wait, there is an error now:

Multiplayer.csproj : error  : Specified condition "!$(UseRefFolder)" evaluates to "!" instead of a boolean.

I honestly have no clue what is causing this

[dusky lion]

according to my calculations

something is a ! instead of a 1 or 0

\🤓

[weak lodge]

Difference between a bool and a Boolean

?

[floral furnace]

bool is a primitive data type and afaik Boolean is a class

[weak lodge]

Uhh I saw a friend using Java and I saw bool a lot, I also see you guys using Boolean in c# so I was confused

[floral furnace]

afaik theres no bool primitive in C#

compared to java at least

[fair rampart]

! is used to invert something

[onyx osprey]

Welp, I fixed it shoddily by just removing the bit of code in the .csproj file that was causing the issue.

Good enough for government work

(Also Hornet/second player has no run animation. not sure if you guys meant to take that out.)

[copper nacelle]

I'm reworking animations because doing it via a separate monobehaviour is cancer

[tranquil glen]

Is there a way I could create a vengefly or some other enemy at certain coordinates

[silk jetty]

I'm mad that I can't break the chandelier in noclaw mode

[dusky lion]

hi mad that I can't break the chandelier in noclaw mode

hi reworking animations because doing it via a separate monobehaviour is cancer

[silk jetty]

I would've won to WK on my third attempt if I could've broken the thing

[dusky lion]

ttacco

stop lurking

[floral furnace]

the hell am i supposed to do then

[dusky lion]

talk offtopic

do you like fallout 4

[floral furnace]

no, i dont own it, and im pretty sure this isnt sr offtopic

[vapid cape]

I beat Pale Prince and DoH!

The former is competing for my favorite fight with Ulti. The latter was... well, I didn't like it too much.

[fair rampart]

I haven't tried DoH but it doesnt seem much fun

Kinda on the vein with lost lord

Wasnt a big fan of that one

[dusky lion]

u really gonna take that 56

[vapid cape]

Kiiinda? I mean, I beat DoH in like 6 tries and PP in like 70, but DoH still feels 5 times as bullshit if not more. You just can't really tell what's going on. It just spams and spams and spams and spams and there's not really an elegant way to fight it that I can see. She just flops all over the place and projectiles fly all over the screen in multiple waves.

I didn't think it was "fun." Interesting? Maybe. But I don't feel like I ever wanna touch it again.

[spiral nova]

uuuuhhh quick question, I installed DoH and the text on the hallof gods statue reads daughter of hallownest, but its just normal hornet sentinel.

do I have to unlock something else?

[warped sinew]

DoH is.... Not the best

[dusky lion]

56 literally killed by team cherry music composer

[misty burrow]

hey were can I get the google drive link with all the mods in it

[warped sinew]

@vapid cape you got pp??

Gj

[vapid cape]

I did! I loved it

Pale Prince is awesome.

[warped sinew]

Yeah its a good fight

[vapid cape]

56 really outdid himself with it. It's a mod I'm going to leave on indefinitely, for sure

[dusky lion]

56 literally resurrected by team cherry music composer and Yeena!#3879

[warped sinew]

Do... Do you think I'm the music composer??

[dusky lion]

no

i was yanking your chain

pulling the wool over your eyes

[warped sinew]

Maybe I should make a soundtrack

[dusky lion]

[warped sinew]

Pfft how hard can it be

[shut shell]

proceeds to spend 3 hours making a 10 second musical string

[dusky lion]

just sample Ico - Heal in your Lil B album called Flowers Rise

[fair rampart]

Graig is the clearly the team's artist

[civic hare]

wow this sprite is me

[dusty cliff]

Ha.

[urban olive]

@Philly Cheesesteak#2908 hit the lever

Can someone ping him

I mean he’d probably figure it out but yea

[worldly wren]

I think they left the server or something

Can't ping either

Wait nvm I checked they're here

[ornate rivet]

wtf why does it happen so quickly

[floral furnace]

Anim Speeds? or just guessing but im probably 500% wrong, if its derived from the HeroController then what about the AttackDuration/AttackSpeed

[ornate rivet]

I'm playing the animation then waiting until the animation ends before moving on

I'll try to change the animation speeds

[jagged panther]

hello

there is a mod that makes your nail to do less damage?

I believe it can be Bonfire or CharmOverhaul

[ornate rivet]

debug mod

[jagged panther]

im asking because I am playing with mods and I do a lot of less damage

that happened after a boss (I dont know who)

I dont have debug mod installed

[ornate rivet]

oh that's what you meant

[cunning lagoon]

enemies in bonfire scale as you progress through the game

so they will outscale you if you are underleveled

[jagged panther]

understood, thank you!

[hollow hearth]

very quicc slash

[fierce prism]

quiccest slash

[hollow hearth]

oi what modded run would be interesting?
was thinking like item randomizer, cknight, healthbars

[solemn rivet]

Just do a few hard randos

[fair rampart]

so how will you handle pogoing?

[copper nacelle]

@ornate rivet Change the fps on the anim

@tranquil glen If you get the name of a vengefly you can find it via GameObject.Find("name"), make a copy via Instantiate(var), make it not die on loads via DontDestroyOnLoad(var), put it oob using var.transform.position = new Vector3(-200f, -200f), and then make more copies of that one using Instantiate(var, pos, Quaternion.Euler(x, y, z))

@vapid cape ty

[tranquil glen]

Fucken hell ok

How do I get the name

[copper nacelle]

I'd just use the fsm viewer

That or debug

[river eagle]

Is that your cat in your pfp 56?

[copper nacelle]

yes

[river eagle]

it be cute

and orange

[weak lodge]

@ornate rivet its looking really good so far

also probably moves so fast cause it slashes as fast as theknight?

56's cat looks like mine but less lazy

[fierce prism]

56's cat looks like my cat but orange

[ornate rivet]

@copper nacelle
I tried _anim.GetClipByName("Blah").fps = 1

[copper nacelle]

[ornate rivet]

I logged the duration and it's 0

[copper nacelle]

Incredible

[river eagle]

Are you making a mod?

[ornate rivet]

the game uses this and it looks fine

[weak lodge]

can we see a video

[ornate rivet]

ok

[copper nacelle]

You're missing frames

[ornate rivet]

Why

[copper nacelle]

Idk

But Duration is this.frames.Length / this.clip.fps

[ornate rivet]

but how could it be giving 0 to me then?

clearly it shows 1 frame

[copper nacelle]

0 / 1 = 0

Idk

[ornate rivet]

1/1 = 1

[copper nacelle]

= 1

[hazy sentinel]

1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1 = 1

[ornate rivet]

wait I'm not logging duration 56

I'm logging _anim.ClipTimeSeconds

[copper nacelle]

log duration

[ornate rivet]

ok

should I still set the fps of all the animations to 1?

[copper nacelle]

Wtf

[ornate rivet]

I thought that would slow them down

[copper nacelle]

I mean it should

Log the amount of frames

[ornate rivet]

I looked at a youtube video of the parry and it looks like they're just 1 frame each

but I'll log it

[copper nacelle]

I mean it probably is

[ornate rivet]

fps are 18, 18, 12

[copper nacelle]

any frames

[ornate rivet]

durations are 0.055556, 0.055556, 0.1666667

[copper nacelle]

1 frame

[ornate rivet]

yes

[copper nacelle]

Dupe the frame

Or don't use that for hornet

Idk how you'd do pogos

[ornate rivet]

would she need pogo?

[copper nacelle]

Idk

[ornate rivet]

if I dont use that then her regular attack will be a needle dash

[copper nacelle]

o

any needle throw

[ornate rivet]

yes she will have that

but it will work the same way spells do

so not a primary attack

[ornate rivet]

weird youtube recommendations continue

[solar jacinth]

wtf

how will you add nail bounce to hornet ?

[ornate rivet]

I won't

[solar jacinth]

oh

will you add hornet to hk when silksong comes out

[vivid crag]

When SS cimes out, someone do this

[copper nacelle]

no

[vivid crag]

How could MMC be modded so it's actually hard

[weak lodge]

didnt saleh nate and i already convolute ideas for MMC

[vivid crag]

Maybe i wasn't here yet

So start

If you want

[weak lodge]

saleh is busy working on multiplayer

and pale champion

[ornate rivet]

plus if I wanted to buff another boss, it would be soul tyrant

[cunning lagoon]

soul master already has a buffed version

[ornate rivet]

there

[cunning lagoon]

[fair rampart]

yeah but soul tyrant is barely different from soul master

it's just faster, more hp, and 1 attack has slightly more projectiles

a mod for him would be good

[cunning lagoon]

shut up idiot the joke is that he said soul master instead of tyrant

[ornate rivet]

what happened to wholesome Kurosh

[cunning lagoon]

it doesn't exist

[ornate rivet]

My first change to Soul Tyrant would be to make him never stop spawning projectiles and slamming down in phase 2

idk what else I would do

[vivid crag]

Tell me about modded mmc

[ornate rivet]

I dont remember what we said it would be like

something about having 2 MMCs and making each turn into smaller moss charges when you killed them

[fair rampart]

and when it jumps create a shower of thorn balls

(those things moss knights shoot)

[ornate rivet]

nathan or knightmere should make that

[vivid crag]

Tbh we should mod every boss and make a pantheon

I should learn how to mod

[ornate rivet]

indeed

[weak lodge]

too bad im not a coder

im just here to test mods

[vivid crag]

Yes

I guess

[kindred sedge]

is it possible to recolor boss sprites? i would like to recolor pure vessel and the watcher knights

[vivid crag]

@56

[fierce prism]

tbh does somebody know if there was some news about Voidwalker besides this fight with PV from it?

[weak lodge]

check art discussion pins

look for bosses

then look for watcher knights

[kindred sedge]

what are those red circles?

[ornate rivet]

Yes krispy you can recolor boss sprites

[weak lodge]

red circles probably mean unused

[kindred sedge]

alright

after i finish my knight reskin imma do a pure vessel one

[ornate rivet]

add armor + cloak

[vivid crag]

Add a cape

[amber plank]

wait if you can recolor bosses

i wonder if someone can recolor radiance for the blackmoth/redwing mods

that be interesting

[weak lodge]

rad has 3 spritesheets i think

[amber plank]

nvm then

unless you like hard work

[weak lodge]

or i mean

just use the saturation slider

like a normal person

too lazy to download rad sprites and modify them

you do it'

[kindred sedge]

saturation slider isnt good enough for a reskin people should want i think

[weak lodge]

its enough

how tf did you think mola made grimm knight

excluding the marks

[kindred sedge]

he also added the red outline to the face

[weak lodge]

what

[kindred sedge]

grimm is the only good looking knight reskin

atm

[weak lodge]

opinons

[amber plank]

its the best one in my opinion

[vivid crag]

Zote is also good

[amber plank]

its decent to me

[young walrus]

Weary Knight is the best

[kindred sedge]

its just gray tho

[young walrus]

Especially when you look down

[kindred sedge]

or is weary knight something else

[dusty cliff]

I actually had to go and recolor the entire sprite sheet for the knight by hand, because most of the customs looked like they just used sliders. Then I learned why. Recoloring by hand is an ordeal.

Looks nice in game, though.

[amber plank]

which knight did you make doxel?

[dusty cliff]

I just edited to use Hornet's color. It isn't uploaded yet.

[amber plank]

or knights?

[kindred sedge]

im about halfway through the knight spreed sheet and i started yesterday, its not too bad if you have something else in the backround to keep from dying of boredom

[dusty cliff]

But that's all hand-edited and it took fucking forever.

[kindred sedge]

thats just a cloak reskin tho, but the color is nice

[amber plank]

which one did you make doxel?

[dusty cliff]

I wanted to use the cloak template to match hornet, but...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/551560435007225869/551560922972291104/unknown.png
Ugh.

[kindred sedge]

you gotta use the darken only mode of the pencil to smooth it out

[dusty cliff]

Saw that and decided to do the whole thing in airbrush.

[kindred sedge]

old version i stopped working on cause someone else did the purple cloak already, but this is with the pencil darken mode

[dusty cliff]

I got the best results by using color dodge on a separate layer.

[kindred sedge]

ugg working with layers is the worst

at least on gimp

cause i dont have PS, cause im a pleb

[dusty cliff]

I use Paint.net.

[fair rampart]

question: why are you doing hornet for multiplayer hk when you could just assign a different cloak to each player

[dusty cliff]

The nice thing about layers is I can now use sliders on my second layer and redo everything in an instant.

[kindred sedge]

oh that is nice

[ornate rivet]

I'm adding hornet because it's cool

but I'm slowly realizing that this is dungo

[dusty cliff]

You can even make the overlay a channel and change the hue dynamically. I started writing that as a mod so the cloak becomes less saturated as you run out of health. Then I ran out of energy.

[kindred sedge]

the problem with that method tho is that you can only have a single color for the cloak unless you change it by hand

[fair rampart]

I'm just imagining a squad of knights in all the colors of the spectrum

[kindred sedge]

well if the multiplayer mod ends up working out then i would hope they add a way to differentiate between the two

[vivid crag]

Cant you use paint tool sai to color the cloak

You just have to select the parts you have to color

[kindred sedge]

paint tool sai?

[weak lodge]

why dont you

commit

[vivid crag]

Ye

[dusty cliff]

Amazing technicolor dreamcloak.

[kindred sedge]

thats a yikes from me

[fair rampart]

paint knight

[dusty cliff]

It was supposed to be a yikes.

[dusty cliff]

I'm just fucking around now.

I just like the fact that separate layers mean I only have to do the hard part with airbrushing once.

And then I can apply whatever filters or sliders I want.

[fair rampart]

earth knight-chan

[mild olive]

very fashionable!

[dusty cliff]

Space. The final frontier.

[mild olive]

glamourous!

[kindred sedge]

@dusty cliff how did you do the color burn for just the cloak in paint.net?

[dusty cliff]

With a layer.

Rather than recoloring the entire sheet each time, I just have a layer telling it which parts to change, in which I have manually selected all the cloak parts.

[kindred sedge]

oh, how did you manually select? paint.net is very different from gimp lol

[weak lodge]

alternatively with Ps if you have that, just select layer mask and hue/saturation, then pick your color range

you can do it in gimp too

mola has done it

[dusty cliff]

I used the airbrush and brushed over the cloak, erasing any stray pixels that got on the mask or nail.

If you select the overlay layer you only draw on it, even if the original spritesheet is visible.

[kindred sedge]

yeah i dont have photo shop cause im a pleb

[dusty cliff]

Had to blur some of it where the cloak shades off do to sprinting or dashing.

It was a lot of work, but you only need to do it once and then you have the correct overlay data forever.

[hazy sentinel]

wow i also love explaining layers 5 times

[dusty cliff]

If you can read pdn files, I'd be glad to share them.

[kindred sedge]

im just gonna do it manually cause i have no idea how to do that lol

[dusty cliff]

I know Paint.NET reads Gimp files. Not sure if it works the other way.

Or whatever you have.

[young walrus]

The dash Sprite is somewhere else tho. Why not just recolor that

Instead of blurring it

[dusty cliff]

I did the dash sprite too.

But there are a few dash sprites on the Knight's page.

It's not as consistent as the filenames imply.

The sheet called Sprint.png literally only has 30 frames of the Knight's animation on it.

It's mostly all on Knight.png.

[young walrus]

For sprintmaster

That was added to the game later so they added a sheet just for that

[dusty cliff]

Yeah.

[mild olive]

Hey Doxel

[dusty cliff]

I need the blur on the overlay layer for things like this.

[mild olive]

zoom

[solemn rivet]

If you guys want a free alternative to PS, might be worth trying photopea

[copper nacelle]

it might be worth trying [redacted]

[young walrus]

Oh I misunderstood what you were doing. I thought you were using a blur for the dash wind effect that's behind the knight

[dusty cliff]

Nah. That's done ingame with transparency.

[mild olive]

Hey Doxel, is it possible to do full sprite replacements, beyond recolors?

[dusty cliff]

But the sprite itself has blur to make it look faster, so I need to blur the overlay too.

Sure.

Just more work.

[young walrus]

There's also sprites for it too

And enemies use those too

Which is kinda funny

[mild olive]

I wonder how long until we have a Hollow Knight Repainted lmao

[dusty cliff]

The Zote sprite is the only one I think that is mostly finished.

[young walrus]

So broken vessel will use colored dash effects too

Among others

[dusty cliff]

For the most part people just make recolors, and for the most part they just make them with the hue/sat/lightness slider.

But you could draw whatever you want onto the sprite sheets as long as you stay in the bounding boxes.

[mild olive]

Wow, that's really neat

[kindred sedge]

yeah thats what im doing

[dusty cliff]

If you want to be the guy who plays Hollow Knight as Gordan Freeman and fights my little ponies, I will judge you super hardcore, but you can do it.

[kindred sedge]

im going to do 1 knight then im moving on to boss reskins

[dusty cliff]

Whatever you can fit on the sprite sheet.

[mild olive]

I'm gonna draw little angry eyebrows on the knight

[kindred sedge]

but you gotta stay withinb the knights hitbox

other wise it gets wonky

[dusty cliff]

I think you might be onto something, Screwball.

[mild olive]

:

[solemn rivet]

@copper nacelle how feasible would it be to make an in-game CK skin selector?

[kindred sedge]

man i wish there was a better way of making a gold color in gimp then manually trying to do it

sometimes it looks good, sometimes its just yellow

[mild olive]

Can the bugs with sockets express ingame?

I don't recall

What I mean is like do their sockets change shape for expressions

Also krispy if you're doing a solid color you could try doing a texture instead, if that's possible in gimp. Like one with shine on it.

[copper nacelle]

pretty easy

imo

[dusty cliff]

I can't think of a time the sockets changed shape in-game, but they do all the time in fanart.

I'm actually really impressed how much emotion the bugs of Hallownest can convey with their little blank faces.

The awesome voice work probably helps too.

[mild olive]

aRIIIIIDO

[kindred sedge]

okay help me decide, does red or purple fit the hollowknight theme more?

[dusty cliff]

I think either color works. Hollow Knight actually uses the full spectrum of colors, it just uses them one at a time.

Each area has a very restricted palate.

[young walrus]

All the Grimm stuff is red

Fungal is very purple

[dusty cliff]

Greenpath is... some sort of color probably.

[young walrus]

Pink

[dusty cliff]

Possibly green.

[mild olive]

That's ridiculous

[dusty cliff]

It's probably why the Knight is such a neutral grey-blue. That way he doesn't risk adding a second color, and you can focus on the aesthetic of whatever area you are in without distracting from it.

[mild olive]

Yeah, agreed

It comes together well

[mild olive]

Hey @dusty cliff how would one find the sprites for the knight?

[dusty cliff]

@mild olive

[mild olive]

Oh, thanks!

Are there spoilers on there if I haven't completed the game?

[dusty cliff]

Nah.

[weak lodge]

if you dont count spells then no

[dusty cliff]

And you don't even see the actual spells. Those are on another sheet.

[weak lodge]

actually HUD hints at shit but whatever

[dusty cliff]

You just see the Knight concentrating.

[mild olive]

Okay, cool

[kindred sedge]

how does one change the saturation of the white attack effects without also changing the white of the mask?

[dusty cliff]

Select all the white effects before adjusting saturation.

If you have a selection, the filter or adjustment will only be applied to that selection.

It will also only apply to the currently selected layer, if you are using a drawing program with layers.

[hazy sentinel]

game still does this huh

[civic hare]

GODHOM

[queen prawn]

lemme guess i cant get customknight mod on mac

[fair rampart]

u can

using installer on mac just takes more work

[copper nacelle]

i also like assuming things with no basis

[queen prawn]

history repeates itself

[copper nacelle]

itsef[sic]

[queen prawn]

whats installer on mac

[fair rampart]

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type cd $(dirname
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

1. install mono here
2. Open a new terminal window
3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.

[queen prawn]

whats dir name

[copper nacelle]

why do people keep asking this

just type it

[queen prawn]

i did

[dusty cliff]

Dirname is a dynamic variable that contains the directory name, meaning the folder in which the files you want are stored.

[queen prawn]

thank you

[copper nacelle]

that's wrong

https://linux.die.net/man/1/dirname

[copper nacelle]

given said file a with example path /i/want/death/ok.png return /i/want/death

why did you press enter early

[queen prawn]

when

oh

ok

[dusty cliff]

Well, shows what I know. I saw dirname and assumed it meant directory name. Thanks, 56.

[copper nacelle]

$PWD is current directory

or $(pwd)

[queen prawn]

still did nothing

[copper nacelle]

any screenshot

[dusty cliff]

Not my normal OS, so it was a literal shot in the dark.

But nobody else was answering him, so an attempt was made.

[queen prawn]

ok it worked now

i added a space

[fair rampart]

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type cd $(dirname
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

1. install mono here
2. Open a new terminal window
3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.

[copper nacelle]

i don't answer people who ask that because 99% of them when they ask it's because they're doing something wrong

space after dirname

it's a coreutil

[dusky lion]

hey this isnt modding-help

[queen prawn]

mono --arch=32

wheres the space at the end

[dusky lion]

back to offtopic discussion unrelated to modding

[young walrus]

After the 32

[queen prawn]

thanks

whats the difference

[copper nacelle]

One is the one visual studio uses

One is the official stable build

[queen prawn]

ok

whats the difference

[copper nacelle]

0.02.0

[young walrus]

Yeah 56, give the full patch notes

[queen prawn]

which one should i get

[copper nacelle]

Doesn't matter

I'd go with stable

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[queen prawn]

ok

[fair rampart]

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type cd $(dirname
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

1. install mono here
2. Open a new terminal window
3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.

[copper nacelle]

why have you run this twice

[dawn oxide]

hey so
out of curiosity
was hollow knight made in unity? i remember hearing that somewhere
and does that mean you could technically mod it from there?
also because i have no idea, how do you even mod the game

[fair rampart]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[copper nacelle]

what

that command answers 0 questions

it was made in unity yeah

[young walrus]

How do you mod the game

You use the installer

[copper nacelle]

you can't modify it from the editor but you can load code via a modified assembly

[rain cedar]

Pretty sure he's asking how to make mods

[copper nacelle]

this

[dawn oxide]

yes i am

ive installed mods before

[copper nacelle]

you can also create asset bundles in the editor and load them at runtime

[young walrus]

Barely anyone asks that. So I went with the percentages

[dawn oxide]

sorry about that

honestly if anything id like
like to make a custom area and maybe a few enemies or bosses
and then leave forever
the only programming i know is basic c
lmao

[queen prawn]

it dont owrk

[rain cedar]

I understand

Reading is hard

[queen prawn]

i installed the mon

mono

then did that

[young walrus]

What does step 2 say

[queen prawn]

ok everything worked

what do i do now

[young walrus]

Use the installer

[copper nacelle]

hit install

[queen prawn]

install what

[copper nacelle]

i mean you said you wanted debug

so

debug

[queen prawn]

no i wanted constume mod

make knight look wierd

[copper nacelle]

press install next to custom knight

[queen prawn]

what

where

[rain cedar]

On the installer

Take a screenshot of your full monitor

[queen prawn]

i didnt get there

[copper nacelle]

is there a zote icon in the Dock

[rain cedar]

any full monitor screenshot

[young walrus]

"everything's working"

.....everything was not working

[copper nacelle]

that doesn't matter

that is also not a full monitor screenshot

[young walrus]

Close your pron, then give screenshot

[copper nacelle]

that is still not the full screen

[queen prawn]

what more is there

[copper nacelle]

any dock

any titlebar

[queen prawn]

doxel delete that

[rain cedar]

Incredible

It was just plots against seanpr in the run submission

[queen prawn]

you watched it already?

[rain cedar]

No but I looked at it for like 10 seconds

[queen prawn]

can you put my name on the leaderboards

then my friends will respect me

[rain cedar]

🤔

[queen prawn]

i dont understand the issue

[compact sedge]

god the new finder logo looks so creepy

[queen prawn]

i did everything told

where the mods at

[compact sedge]

oh wait that's always been the logo nvm

how did I not notice that when I uh had an emac

[dusty cliff]

Do you have an app that looks like our lord and savior ?

Open it and tell it to install the mod you want.

[queen prawn]

whats the app called

[dusty cliff]

ModInstaller.

[queen prawn]

ok

[dusty cliff]

Well there's your problem.

You're on some sort of Mac or something.

[copper nacelle]

local man closes program and wonders why it is not there

[queen prawn]

so how i install liblaiudsaza

[copper nacelle]

you don't it's useless

[solemn rivet]

If you use mono it should work fine

[dusty cliff]

||I know I shouldn't be chuckling at this because I know how frustrating it can be to have computer problems but I can't help it.||

[solemn rivet]

56 uses it on Mac all the time

[copper nacelle]

this

[solemn rivet]

Show em how it's done 56

[queen prawn]

im just gonna do everything again

[solemn rivet]

Record a gif

[copper nacelle]

effort

gimme a min

[solemn rivet]

:effort:

Best nonexistent emote imo

[trim totem]

does 56 have a mac

[solemn rivet]

It do

[copper nacelle]

my laptop is a 2015 mbp dual booting arch and macOS

[fair rampart]

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type cd $(dirname
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

1. install mono here
2. Open a new terminal window
3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type cd $(dirname
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

1. install mono here
2. Open a new terminal window
3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type cd $(dirname
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal.
4. Type ) then hit Return/Enter
5. Type mono --arch=32 (Note the space at the end)
6. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found then

1. install mono here
2. Open a new terminal window
3. Type/paste in export PATH=/usr/local/bin:${PATH} and hit Return/Enter
4. Repeat steps 2-6 above.

[young walrus]

For good measure

[queen prawn]

ok so i needa update

what

[copper nacelle]

i don't have the game installed

unfortunate

What files does it check for again

[young walrus]

Just the assembly yeah?

[copper nacelle]

okay

[young walrus]

And the folder

[copper nacelle]

0kb assembly FeelsGoodMan

[young walrus]

shrugs

[copper nacelle]

System.OutOfMemoryException: Out of memory

ah yes

local man has too many tabs

[queen prawn]

so i need to update my game

but its on current patch

[solemn rivet]

Show

[queen prawn]

scroll up ever so slightly

[young walrus]

Open the sketchy zip, gradow

[solemn rivet]

[queen prawn]

what i do

[solemn rivet]

Currently on mobile

Sorry

[queen prawn]

u good

[solemn rivet]

;ee

[copper nacelle]

installer doesn't like me anymore

unfortunate

Oh

It tries to load the assembly but it's empty because I don't have the game installed

Incredible

[young walrus]

Any title screen

[queen prawn]

no

[solemn rivet]

Like, try running the game and show it to us

[young walrus]

Show us the title screen

Of hollow knight

The one you're trying to mod

[solemn rivet]

1424

[young walrus]

Incredible

[solemn rivet]

Not 1432

[queen prawn]

theres an update?

[young walrus]

Buy the game my dude

[queen prawn]

i did

[copper nacelle]

he's on beta

[young walrus]

Be not on beta my dude

[queen prawn]

how

[solemn rivet]

24 is not beta

[young walrus]

We'll how'd you enable the beta

[solemn rivet]

It's pre-32

[young walrus]

Yeah it is

They never updated it

[copper nacelle]

It is

[young walrus]

So it's an old version

[copper nacelle]

what mick said

[queen prawn]

i didnt enable beta

[copper nacelle]

doubt

[queen prawn]

it just is like that

[copper nacelle]

xxxxxxxxx

[young walrus]

Xxxxx

[copper nacelle]

any steam screenshot

[queen prawn]

how do i deable it

[young walrus]

Or GOG

[copper nacelle]

right click properties versions

[young walrus]

Or anything

[copper nacelle]

no he downpatched with steam

[copper nacelle]

for his iphone 6 camera run

[young walrus]

Amazing

[queen prawn]

great, so how do i make it not public beta

[copper nacelle]

right click properties updates

[queen prawn]

k

[copper nacelle]

Potassium

https://youtu.be/QUPR7FWFFKE

@solemn rivet

[queen prawn]

is that right?

[copper nacelle]

yes

[queen prawn]

so should i repeat the process now?

[copper nacelle]

just the last few steps

[queen prawn]

i have good news for you

[solemn rivet]

👀

[ornate rivet]

it doesn't work

[young walrus]

Got an A in math

[queen prawn]

so i installed custom knight

what next

[solemn rivet]

Download the skins

[young walrus]

6th pin

[ornate rivet]

choose a skin (or make your own) from the gdrive that is pinned

put it in the Custom Knight folder found in the Mods folder found in your game files

[queen prawn]

thanks

[ornate rivet]

yw

[dusky lion]

dcolonw

[queen prawn]

how do i get to the game files

[fair rampart]

**Saves**

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Save Files: %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\

Mac File Paths:

Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/

Linux File Paths:

Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/

[queen prawn]

wheres steam at

thats an issue

got it

didnt work

[weak lodge]

hmmm

[silk jetty]

yknow, I feel like randomizers are pretty boring once you get into gomode

[young walrus]

Which is why bingo is usually thrown on top of it

[silk jetty]

that's fair

[young walrus]

So go mode is never the same

And doesn't last 20 minutes

[queen prawn]

sup with this

[young walrus]

Why'd you change the name

[queen prawn]

to identify it better

should i notve?

[young walrus]

Well that doesn't work

[silk jetty]

notve

[young walrus]

It's looking for "customknight"

You change the name, and it's not that anymore

So it dontve find it

[ornate rivet]

🤦

[dusky lion]

you forgot the mars symbol

[queen prawn]

ok thaanks

[silk jetty]

wtf is griag knight lol

[queen prawn]

wait

[young walrus]

Now toggle it in game

[queen prawn]

how

[young walrus]

Turn off and on again

[queen prawn]

how

[young walrus]

Well restarting the game would work

[queen prawn]

ok

i have it toggled on

but i still get normal skin

[young walrus]

Show title screen

[young walrus]

Did you restart the game

Like I said

[queen prawn]

yes

3 timse

[young walrus]

Then you don't have the files in the right place

Or the wrong files

[queen prawn]

how

i did everything right

[young walrus]

Please don't tell me you just made those folders

[queen prawn]

i think

no

i did everything like it said

i had it show package contents

[young walrus]

If you did everything right, then it'd be running

So we know that's not true

[queen prawn]

welp

[warped sinew]

@silk jetty install Graig knight.. Do it

[silk jetty]

nah fam, that would require me to move things around

just tell me what it is

[warped sinew]

https://gfycat.com/classicofficialintermediateegret

[dusky lion]

is this cursed or blessed for i cannot tell

[solemn rivet]

Blursed

[copper nacelle]

this

[ornate rivet]

that

[dusky lion]

[solemn rivet]

Clessed

[warped sinew]

I need to complete it, gotta do sprint and also the HP masks

[queen prawn]

does anybody have advice for my dumbass predicament

[dusky lion]

try harder

stop being on a mac

[copper nacelle]

public static readonly string DATA_DIR = Path.GetFullPath(Application.dataPath + "/Managed/Mods/" + IMAGE_FOLDER);

[mortal trout]

cease existence ez

[copper nacelle]

Mac player: <path to player app bundle>/Contents

@queen prawn any

[weak lodge]

attempting rad all bound is gay

shriek wrecks though

[queen prawn]

thank you

what that mean

@65

[silk jetty]

how does noclaw mode deal with white palace?

also, tbh the chests in junk pit should be randomized

[ornate rivet]

I really hope that you learned how to design fair, fun and challenging bosses for the next game.

I hope that you wont make the mistake like you did with the last DLC.
Spamfest bosses with no area to dodge with tons of health, who one hit kill you
Or complete rng bosses who also one hit kill you, and since there's that rng you can't predict what's going to hit you.
Bosses with no attack patterns, their animation for every attack the same, no windup, instant attack, long range attacks, who also one hit kill you

Of course I'm talking about gods and Glory DLC bosses. Just enemies taken from the base game, cheaply made "challenging" by adding some stupid modifiers. I hope that wont be the direction for the next game.
I played this DLC when it came out and just uninstalled the game after an hour of playing it. And now I got back to it, managed to beat some bosses and progress a bit in a pantheon... but I immediately remembered why I quit

Bosses from vanilla Hollow Knight are alright. normal rooms to play in, normal health, not one hit killing you. And even though some have absolute spamfest of attacks, at least you have some room to dodge.

But please, no more RNG high damage stuff... Metroidvania games have bosses that have patterns! Or attacks that have some sort of a windup so you can see how to dodge. Or both, mostly both. But you can't have neither.

[mortal trout]

same

[true wagon]

Um hello

[mortal trout]

hi

[true wagon]

Sorry if I popped up all of a sudden! I recently started using mods to enjoy a bit more of the game right after I got the true ending

So far I’m just using invincibility

[solemn rivet]

don't pop me all of a sudden daddy

[true wagon]

Lol

So is it safe that these kinds of mods won’t get me banned?

[solemn rivet]

banned

from

what

[queen prawn]

56 what that stuff mean

[ornate rivet]

why would anything ban you

[true wagon]

Idk?? I’ve seen games where if you hack you get banned

So I wanted to make sure I’m ok here

[solemn rivet]

umm

but

what would you be banned from?

[ornate rivet]

no cheat protection in Hollow Knight, it's not a multiplayer game

no game bans you from playing the game

[true wagon]

Ah ok!

Sorry for worrying!

It’s my first time modding

And I really want to see more Hollow Knight

[solemn rivet]

it's fine

[true wagon]

So far I’m enjoying just walking through hazards without worrying

I can’t count how many times I fall into the spikes

[warped sinew]

Oh yes link me that steam review

Or thread

[dusky lion]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/367520/discussions/0/1843566500524316534/

[weak lodge]

https://www.twitch.tv/theknightmere

ngg

[hazy sentinel]

so my mech kb arrived and i installed all the o rings but i'm still using my rubberdome because i'm too lazy to set up the software

[warped sinew]

Yes!!

[ornate rivet]

graig are you about that roast that steam dude

or would that look bad for tc

[amber plank]

that review hurt my soul

[warped sinew]

No

[solemn rivet]

just "git gud" should suffice

[warped sinew]

What I just want to read the thread

[ornate rivet]

ah ok

[warped sinew]

His opinion is his to have I don't care

[solemn rivet]

oof

graig taking the high ground

[ornate rivet]

but graig you asked to see the thread so you do care
better wording would be that you're not offended by it

[warped sinew]

I care to see the community reaction

[dawn oxide]

we need graig dlc

[warped sinew]

I see people complain about "walling off" the ending after panth 5 they don't agree with that but like.... An ending is the perfect thing to be "walled off"

[ornate rivet]

yes, you don't lose any gameplay (plus you can watch the video online so )

but it still is an award

[warped sinew]

Its kinda the point of an ending

[ornate rivet]

same thing with achievements

I feel like people forget what the word achievement means

[warped sinew]

Yeah its kinda strange. Its like they want to see the ending but not work for it at all

Millennials amirite!?

[ornate rivet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/384146478354137091/541773745325473792/sigh.gif

[warped sinew]

I think Godmaster is the best by a mile. I don't even play the base game at all anymore

[ornate rivet]

I don't understand how people call Godmaster disappointing, I mean compared to the other two content packs...

also godmaster has the other two content packs inside it technically

[rain cedar]

It's perceived as not new content

Because it's mostly old bosses

[ornate rivet]

but it has more new content

[rain cedar]

Yes I know

[ornate rivet]

and bringing back old bosses serves as a good recap since this is the final update the game gets (not counting glitch fixing patches)

[amber plank]

its a challenge for me to find something to complain about in this game

[queen prawn]

ar

40 bosses in a row then get bitch slapped by radiance rng

[mortal trout]

p5 best part of the game imo

[warped sinew]

The amount of people that complained about a boss rush update that was exactly that PLUS more stuff was crazy.

[queen prawn]

i like it

im just saying its tough

[warped sinew]

Not sure what people thought a boss rush was??

[queen prawn]

i mean

[fair rampart]

radiance rng

[queen prawn]

yall did say bossrush with a twist

[ornate rivet]

it does have a twist

[queen prawn]

bindings are that

[ornate rivet]

new bosses

and remixed ones

and new ending

[mortal trout]

i cant believe people thought boss rush with a twist meant an easier than normal boss rush

[floral furnace]

i think its mostly the ending gating that got some people, but i have no idea why people are complaining about a boss rush that was marketed as a boss rush to begin with

[queen prawn]

yeah

[warped sinew]

Also its free

[queen prawn]

dont know what they expected

if its free you really cant complain

[ornate rivet]

you can critique it still

but people aren't critiquing, they are complaining and calling it critiquing

[fair rampart]

I don't want a difficult and rewarding experience, I want an experience that makes me feel good about myself

[warped sinew]

I feel a lot of the difficulty critiques are canceled out by infinite practice HoG. But I can see that casual players just want to play the DLC once and finish it. I do get the frustration but I guess its just not for them

[solemn rivet]

that's the problem isn't it

games used to have a lot of walled off content

and it was fine

when I was young I couldn't do most games' boss rushes

and I wasn't bothered by it

but I guess now people don't think like that anymore?

[warped sinew]

Yeah

[young walrus]

Current games are meant to be beat. Old games were meant to be learned and eventually beat

[warped sinew]

The whole point of HK is that its a throw back to old games like that

Yes @Mickely#3333 exactly

[young walrus]

I mean hell, beating an arcade game was fucking hard

[warped sinew]

That's the perfect explanation to game dev then vs now

[ornate rivet]

well those were meant to take money from you

not be learned

[fair rampart]

probably a result of video games becoming more mainstream, so developers are catering to the more casual audience by creating easier and easier games

[solemn rivet]

yup

also a result of devs putting an easy way to access all of the content

[warped sinew]

It makes more money to have a casual game that is a more "movie" like experience

[fair rampart]

godmaster isn't anywhere near the most difficult challenge in games

[solemn rivet]

^

[ornate rivet]

neither is PoP

not even close

[solemn rivet]

bunch of old men talking here

[young walrus]

[fair rampart]

👴

[young walrus]

My Gameboy games too. Very difficult to beat the first time

[ornate rivet]

gradow aren't you in college or something

[frail copper]

so?

[young walrus]

Took a long time to learn them and get good

[ornate rivet]

or just out of college

[warped sinew]

Also I have heard convocations between other devs saying things like "why spend X amount of time designing an area that only 1% of players will see?" And its a decent point

[young walrus]

Because that's the most rewarding content

[solemn rivet]

it is

[fair rampart]

because mainstream game development has become all about making money

[kindred sedge]

besides, that 1% are your most loyal customers at that point

[fair rampart]

rather than creating a project of your passions

unlike TC

[solemn rivet]

it's also a decent point that "if I have to pay X moneys for a game, it makes sense that I should have access to all of it, without having to "pay" even more with effort"

[warped sinew]

$$$$$$$$$$ get da big bux boizzzz

[frail copper]

and other companies

[solemn rivet]

saleh: I'm 26

[frail copper]

graig exposed

team cherry exposed

[ornate rivet]

that's pretty young (though I'm even younger)

[solemn rivet]

technically on uni, but as a post grad student

[frail copper]

their greedy by making a good game that people will buy

wtf team cherry

[buoyant obsidian]

Team Cherry is stupid for making a game in the first place

[frail copper]

wtf

[buoyant obsidian]

if they just made it a movie, everyone could've enjoyed it

even disabled people

[kindred sedge]

so i get that they cut the spiderboss cause spiders are worshipped in AU and they woulda have broken some rules, but i would love a mod for it

[ornate rivet]

tbh animated movie by Ari would be great

[fair rampart]

yes please

[frail copper]

im into that

[floral furnace]

i want 90% of silksong to have dialogue heavy cutscenes that runs for longer than an hour or i aint buying it

[solemn rivet]

so HK went from Super Metroid to Other M this fast

nice

[weak lodge]

hello im back

[fair rampart]

I want hornet to have realistic movement

[floral furnace]

hi back etc etc

[weak lodge]

graig sorry im not feeling it rn

[fair rampart]

where you slow down for 3 whole seconds before actually stopping

[ornate rivet]

ngg is impossible

[fair rampart]

and the turning animation is 5 seconds long

[weak lodge]

i promised graig i'd do ngg, at least phase 1

[fair rampart]

you mean deceleration?

[kindred sedge]

with controller he is impossible

[weak lodge]

HE IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE

i can tell you

[ornate rivet]

ngg is impossible

[weak lodge]

i can dodge every attack if i concentrate

[fair rampart]

ngg is literally impossible there is literally no way to beat it

[weak lodge]

too bad massive headache and im kinda sick rn so hard to concentrate

ngg rng

ngg bullshit and rng

[frail copper]

yeah even the best people have to do segmented runs

[weak lodge]

for phase 2

[solemn rivet]

not sure if troll or just oblivious

[weak lodge]

also dlkurosh exists

he may not me wholesome anymore but hes still god

[hazy sentinel]

//insert fry thinking

[solemn rivet]

was he ever wholesome?

[frail copper]

trll

[ornate rivet]

trll

[solemn rivet]

thrill

[frail copper]

no

trll

[hazy sentinel]

yeah pretty sure kuro was never wholesome

[solemn rivet]

I can't remember a single wholesome thing he ever said or did

[fair rampart]

are you mixing the 2 kuros up

[weak lodge]

kuro never wholesome sad

[fair rampart]

wow

[fair rampart]

papers has retained his wholesomeness

can we corrupt papers please

[ornate rivet]

I sense tears in my eyes

[solemn rivet]

no

papers is the angel of purity

[ornate rivet]

papers is the angle of purity

[solemn rivet]

[hazy sentinel]

meanwhile my first message was already a shitpost

[solemn rivet]

show

[ornate rivet]

I wonder what my first message was

[weak lodge]

im still pure and always have been

[fair rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516675581622878209/546793476973527063/unknown.png

[solemn rivet]

veru is older than me

[ornate rivet]

incredible my first comment was related to hornet not being void

[fair rampart]

Jonny wtf

[weak lodge]

incredible my first post was some shitty art piece that looks like toilet paper

also jonny high iq

[warped sinew]

Wait 56 has a sister!??!?! Is her name 69?

[fair rampart]

it's like one of the comments on mossbag's video where everyone just seems to accept their own headcanon as fact

[ornate rivet]

wow reacting to your own message

blocked

[solemn rivet]

hmmm

[weak lodge]

this is a conspiracy what are you talking about

[fair rampart]

baby gradow

[hazy sentinel]

hey everyone! I'm just getting into modding HK (or any game, for that matter) and no matter how much I look I can't seem to find a LOT of content in Assemply_CSharp.dll which I would like to mod, and I'm not saying resources - those I can find and extract just fine - I'm talking about things like, say, how spells behave and stuff... Can anyone help? Sry for the WOT btw

[fair rampart]

ask one of the guys here, they're very helpful!

[weak lodge]

i used xd alot

sad

[ornate rivet]

same

[fair rampart]

[warped sinew]

Find my first msg plz someone

I'm on mobile and not sure how this shit works

[fair rampart]

if only discord had page number search, instead of having to flip thru one at a time

[weak lodge]

this it?

no no

it goes back farther

[ornate rivet]

no

[ornate rivet]

get rekt 56

[weak lodge]

56 wtf

[copper nacelle]

Unfortunate

[ornate rivet]

chennel

[weak lodge]

homework exists

[ornate rivet]

[copper nacelle]

procrastination

i should really close discord

[weak lodge]

has veru beaten ngg yet

[ornate rivet]

why is this so wholesome