archived-modding-development

[copper nacelle]

I mean if ax and acrid are using it for speedruns it's probably good

[solemn rivet]

you really trust ax?

[copper nacelle]

yes

[ornate rivet]

this is all the proof I need
https://s3.amazonaws.com/parsec-static/videos/fps.mp4

[copper nacelle]

monkaHmm

[ornate rivet]

monkaSigh

[copper nacelle]

no

[ornate rivet]

monkaNo

[copper nacelle]

Why is tc's naming so bad

[ornate rivet]

hop

[copper nacelle]

no

their private fields are sometimes

_name

nameName

and na_me

[ornate rivet]

wow I do that sometimes

[copper nacelle]

Can you not

Any consistency

[ornate rivet]

if it means I will get rich from making an indie game I will

[copper nacelle]

I created a jetpack by accident

[ornate rivet]

I created silksong by accident

[copper nacelle]

@onyx osprey behold https://streamable.com/umv6u

[ornate rivet]

lol

[onyx osprey]

lmao

[solemn rivet]

ok

I'll buy that from you

and add it into blackmoth2 - Black Mother

[hazy sentinel]

i take it the name is a work in progress

[solemn rivet]

yeah

I'll probably capitalize it later

[ornate rivet]

blackmoth2 - BlackSong

[compact sedge]

I can't believe y'all are doing this

[copper nacelle]

help

how do i make it not fall over

i can smack the knight into curves but he just stays upright

[solemn rivet]

wdym

[copper nacelle]

this man goes upside down and jetpacks away

[solemn rivet]

show

[ornate rivet]

what

[hazy sentinel]

me irl

[fair rampart]

Is this loss

[solemn rivet]

notices gun OwO

[ornate rivet]

lock rotation?

doesn't unity have an option for that?

[copper nacelle]

Idk that's why I asked

[solemn rivet]

why does it fall over?

[onyx osprey]

lol i encountered this same issue

[copper nacelle]

blessed

[onyx osprey]

I think it's hilarious, but have no idea how to fix it

oh of course

[ornate rivet]

knew it

[copper nacelle]

now how do i make it not shake when it walks

[ornate rivet]

show

[solemn rivet]

dang, does anyone have the vids of me experimenting with the cdash?

specifically, the knight spinning

[copper nacelle]

https://streamable.com/d891v

[solemn rivet]

shakey

[copper nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h76W2oK5dgE

yeah that's what i want to fix

[ornate rivet]

how are you controlling movement

[solemn rivet]

Scooter look at this

ty 56

[copper nacelle]

i'm just using arrow keys

[ornate rivet]

this?
https://answers.unity.com/questions/1145896/how-do-i-stop-the-player-from-shaking-in-unity2d.html

[onyx osprey]

Yeah I'm lost at the shakeyness as well

Also wtf that super dash

[solemn rivet]

welcome to blackmoth goodness

[weak lodge]

is this shinespark mod

[copper nacelle]

i think i fixed it

[onyx osprey]

tell me the secret

[hazy sentinel]

@onyx osprey the secret

[onyx osprey]

dayum

[copper nacelle]

https://streamable.com/8zyxc

[ornate rivet]

how did you fix it?

[solemn rivet]

tell me about

the

camera

[copper nacelle]

it exists

interpolation sucks

[dusky lion]

conside

r

steal the splitscreen code from the lego games

seamlessly integrate it into unity

[copper nacelle]

haha yes

Why

[ornate rivet]

is this tc code?

[copper nacelle]

Yeah

[ornate rivet]

if cstate.onground is true why would something like cstate.jumping be true?

[copper nacelle]

You've started the jump but fixed update hasn't triggered yet

[ornate rivet]

understandable

[copper nacelle]

Local man uses CanDoubleJump instead of CanJump

[ornate rivet]

are tags used in unity to find gameobjects easier?

[copper nacelle]

Yeah afaik

I think you can also grab objects by tag

[ornate rivet]

ok

[copper nacelle]

So like find all enemies w/ the tag boss

Or make code which works for anything w/ the tag "Player"

Which is what transitions do

[ornate rivet]

does tc use them consistently?

[solemn rivet]

shame TC doesn't really do tags

smh

[copper nacelle]

Boss is kinda consistent I think

Player is consistent ofc

[solemn rivet]

if boss is consistent, then why did KDT hardcode the bosses' object names in the original HPBars?

[copper nacelle]

I used can double jump and now he won't jump

[solemn rivet]

take that, atheists

[solemn rivet]

u

have you seen the beautiful canDash check?

[copper nacelle]

Same

No

[solemn rivet]

it's really a thing of wonder

nice cat btw

[copper nacelle]

ty

It's better than can jump at least

Can jump has multiple ifs

[solemn rivet]

indeed

[copper nacelle]

Why is the first section not its own method

It's used in almost every Can(X)

[solemn rivet]

it changes slightly tho

[copper nacelle]

[solemn rivet]

btw 56 didn't know if you'd seen it

but I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to put BM2 on hold for now

[copper nacelle]

Unfortunate

[solemn rivet]

I got to teach a class this semester

so I won't be having much free time with that on top of writing my dissertation

sry

[copper nacelle]

understandable

[solemn rivet]

e

[copper nacelle]

you know the inf air jump thing

that's what the 2nd player has now

it's not a jetpack

but it's still bad

[solemn rivet]

right

so, here's what you should do

don't remove it

but make it frame perfect

so people can discover it and use it for speedrunning

[copper nacelle]

hmm

he just fell through the floor

unfortunate

[solemn rivet]

meirl

[copper nacelle]

At a certain speed it occurs

Apparently

[ornate rivet]

yea that happens in unity

[copper nacelle]

[ornate rivet]

[copper nacelle]

Jump is impossible

Why are there so many parts

ahh

[neon cradle]

what programming language is this?

[copper nacelle]

C#

[neon cradle]

Ah

[copper nacelle]

He jumps now

Incredible

[ornate rivet]

yay

[rain cedar]

I'm gonna make mods in visual basic from now on

[copper nacelle]

Why

No

Please

think of the children

[rain cedar]

Ah you're right

I shouldn't

Not when there's JS.NET

[copper nacelle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JScript_.NET

Why

[onyx osprey]

@copper nacelle I committed my controller code as a proposed change (because i'm not allowed to actually edit stuff on your git). If my code is awful, feel free to critic it. Lol

[copper nacelle]

question mark

Oh there's another branch

[onyx osprey]

yes

I may have accidentally created two branches(?) because I modified two files (github can be weird).
no wait, I did it right

[hollow pier]

hello master

uwu

[copper nacelle]

Merged

[onyx osprey]

Oh sweet

[copper nacelle]

Are you using github web to upload stuff

It sucks

[onyx osprey]

Yeah

I have the client, but have yet to figure it out.

[copper nacelle]

git or Github Desktop?

[onyx osprey]

Github Desktop

[copper nacelle]

o

You just clone the repo

And then when you change something you make a "commit" which is a set of changes

So you'd have 1 commit for this

Then there's a push button in the titlebar

That puts it back in your fork

Then when you want to merge something w/ origin (my repo in this case) you make a pull request (New pull request)

[onyx osprey]

🤔 I think I get it.

[cunning lagoon]

hypers is gone

[copper nacelle]

I'm gonna move the input stuff to a NewGame/SaveLoaded hook

You only need to get the 2nd player once so there's no point in running it every frame afaik

[ornate rivet]

just realized we have a 20 minute video of ari and william talking in front of a camera

and deep fake is a thing

[copper nacelle]

no

[ornate rivet]

yes

[copper nacelle]

Stop

[ornate rivet]

this will be hot

trust me

[copper nacelle]

It is time to stop

[ornate rivet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/384146478354137091/541773745325473792/sigh.gif

[copper nacelle]

can you not

[ornate rivet]

ok

[copper nacelle]

pog

what the fuck

this does not work with keyboard

unfortunate

[ornate rivet]

proof that keyboard is bullshit and rng

[copper nacelle]

No I fixed it

[ornate rivet]

proof that keyboard is not bullshit and rng

[copper nacelle]

monkaHmm

[fair rampart]

Can someone deep fake ari's face onto president obama

Please it will be very funny

I will show my friends on Facebook and reddit

[copper nacelle]

@onyx osprey I modified input a bit so that it would work w/ keyboard and not have to run every frame https://github.com/5FiftySix6/HollowKnight.Multiplayer/commit/f76f6a63229f191f439802d8bd09a0d1fffc50d9

[brazen mortar]

Is multiplayer ready yet?

[hazy sentinel]

no

[brazen mortar]

Can’t wait

[onyx osprey]

Not quite for quite awhile

[ornate rivet]

is silksong ready yet

[brazen mortar]

Is it local?

[onyx osprey]

Yes

[weak lodge]

yes

[ornate rivet]

no

[brazen mortar]

Darn so I can’t play with 56

[copper nacelle]

any https://parsecgaming.com/

[ornate rivet]

imagine using 🤔 or when exists

[onyx osprey]

Yeah, that'll probably be the best you can do for online HK multiplayer. Maybe someday in the future (read: 10 years) I'll add innate online multiplayer.

in all seriousness, I do actually want to learn how to do gamedev networking stuff at some point, so I could use this as a learning experience for that at some point.

[brazen mortar]

Oooh that looks neat I guess I’ll try parsec when time comes

[mortal trout]

imagine using

[worthy sphinx]

I want multiplayer

Wait is it gonna be a mod?

[mortal trout]

insane question

[hazy sentinel]

silksong will be accompanied by HK update that adds multiplayer

[worthy sphinx]

Wait so it’s part of silksong

Or am I just not able to commit reading

[onyx osprey]

the latter

[weak lodge]

we got a beta test for silksong's hk patch ez

it is a mod sir

youre in modding channel

[worthy sphinx]

Ur cool

[weak lodge]

im sure it'll be on the installer when it is finished

so youll get your multiplayer eventually

[worthy sphinx]

What’s happening with the cut content mod

Is that ever gonna be a thing

[copper nacelle]

that was a thing a few patches ago

it is now as dead as my will to live

[mortal trout]

same

[ornate rivet]

when will I see silksong on the modinstaller

[weak lodge]

its already on wdym

its just under a new name

'art mods'

[ornate rivet]

oh good

I'll check it out

[worthy sphinx]

Wait silksong is out?

[ornate rivet]

yes

[weak lodge]

no

[worthy sphinx]

Then why is it on steam?

What?

[weak lodge]

saleh don't confuse him

[ornate rivet]

silksong is not out

[worthy sphinx]

What?

[ornate rivet]

don't take what I say on here seriously

[worthy sphinx]

I big confused

[weak lodge]

it was a shitpost

those exist

[worthy sphinx]

Oh

I know what shit posts are

I just was confused that’s all

[onyx osprey]

on public servers, you typically find a handful of people who meme and shitpost while seeming serious

[mortal trout]

no problem

[worthy sphinx]

Edgy ur cool

[weak lodge]

am i cool too 😎

[onyx osprey]

lol no

[worthy sphinx]

Hell yea

[ornate rivet]

no

[worthy sphinx]

Scooter u ain’t cool

Jk love u

No humu

[onyx osprey]

all the humu

[cunning lagoon]

huumuu

[dusky lion]

no

[weak lodge]

we love you too

[worthy sphinx]

Thanks b

[weak lodge]

no homo 😔

[worthy sphinx]

I’ll go put socks on

ARe any more mods coming out soon?

[dusky lion]

lightbringer

[cunning lagoon]

no we ran out of modders

[weak lodge]

yea we have to restock them

its normal

[worthy sphinx]

Rip

I like when they do that

[dusky lion]

getting a new shipment of them from southern venezuela soon

[weak lodge]

no 56 is still working on multiplayer im guessing and saleh isnt working on pale champion atm

[worthy sphinx]

k

[weak lodge]

753 on lightbringer

im doing wasting time

[worthy sphinx]

Cool

Wait I forgot the answer and im to lazy to scroll up, What happened to cut content mod was it just pooped on or something?

[weak lodge]

wtf

scrolling isnt hard

[worthy sphinx]

Ssh

its ok

im special

[weak lodge]

typing that took more effort thank scrolling

[worthy sphinx]

Ssssh

[dusky lion]

hello kurosh

[cunning lagoon]

hello finch

[dusky lion]

[cunning lagoon]

[dusky lion]

no

keep happygrub pure and wholesome

[mortal trout]

i want to die

[dusky lion]

then perish

[weak lodge]

omfg i love you guys no homo

[dusky lion]

hewwoo owo

luv uu knwigmtwere

[weak lodge]

i wuv u twoo owo

[ornate rivet]

fuck you all

Imagine hearing the exciting news that you have a 2 hour delay tomorrow only to be told that you have to spend those 2 hours getting blood

[cunning lagoon]

please refer to the proper channel for this 👉 🚪 #off-topic

[ornate rivet]

please refer to the proper channel for this 👉 🚪 #off-topic

[dusky lion]

please refer to the proper channel for this 👉 🚪 #off-topic

[copper nacelle]

please refer to the proper channel for this 👉 🚪 #off-topic

[ornate rivet]

wtf 56 is sean now

[young walrus]

please refer to the proper channel for this 👉

[onyx osprey]

pLeAsE rEfEr To ThE pRoPeR cHaNnEl FoR tHiS

[compact sedge]

saleh is a vampire confirmed

needs to get blood

[ornate rivet]

shush

[onyx osprey]

@copper nacelle Well congrats on your code, controllers no longer work at all. lmao

I'll see if I can fix it.

[copper nacelle]

Wtf

It's working for me rn

[onyx osprey]

wat

Maybe I need to turn off native controller support (I have no idea why it's on)

[copper nacelle]

Okay I pushed what I have

Maybe that'll work

I'm testing w/ kb+controller

Lemme get a 2nd controller

[onyx osprey]

well it works... except...
once I spawn in the other player, both controllers control it, but none control the main player

[copper nacelle]

Incredible

I'll try and fix that

Wait

did you menu using the controller

Or using mouse?

[onyx osprey]

I used the controller on the menu

actually i tested both controllers on the main menu first (they both worked), which may have fucked it? idk

[copper nacelle]

I can confirm that it does not work

I might've fixed it

I gtg but I can fix it tomorrow or you can fix it if you want

I think I have an idea on how to fix it though

[onyx osprey]

I'll see what I can do, you have a good sleep.

[fair rampart]

Rogue admin ravages 4+ servers, leaving only one survivor

:remThink: is gone

new favorite global

[dusky lion]

@ mods please remove this from my vision

[floral furnace]

why are there 2 seanprs

[cunning lagoon]

we cloned him

[floral furnace]

i see

[dusky lion]

Why are there 999 Ax2u’s

[cunning lagoon]

we cloned him

[dusky lion]

i see

[compact sedge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/av4f5f/skyrim_together_is_stealing_skse_source_code/

Wow I totally lucked out when I picked this game of all games to mod. Seriously tho someone tell me why so many modding communities are the wild west/Ayn Rand's wet dream

[fair rampart]

skse?

what that

[floral furnace]

skyrim script extender

[cunning lagoon]

thanks

[onyx osprey]

Well, whenever you come back online @copper nacelle I fixed the controller issues.

[fair rampart]

I was looking at a video of the bonfire mod for HK and after looking around I found a post saying that if anyone wanted to play it to come here 😛 anyone know where to get it?

^ noice

[copper nacelle]

@onyx osprey merged

I'm online rn but I don't have time to actually change anything

[hazy sentinel]

Anyone else find Grey Prince Zote too easy?
I thought that Grey Prince Zote was actually too easy. The whole point was for him to be a complete paradox of Zote the Mighty, so I thought that Grey Prince Zote would be basically the hardest boss in the game. To me, it was one of the easiest.

All I did was put on Quick Slash, Mark of Pride, and Quick Focus (when I had 9 charm notches) and basically just beat the hell of out him.

When I had 11 charm notches, I did Quick Slash, Mark of Pride, Unbreakable Strength, and Shaman Stone. All I did was beat the hell out of him again, but this time use spells.

In both battles, I barely tried. And I don't say that with the intent of bragging. I barely dodged any of his attacks, just tanked most of them, and just kept on spamming.

I don't really see why so many people have such issues with him when he's a boss you can just spam and kill easily.

Could anyone please explain to me why so many people find it difficult?

Thanks for reading.

[fair rampart]

can this person try GPZ radiant or bound

[floral furnace]

"I barely dodged any of his attacks, just tanked most of them, and just kept on spamming."

something something proceeds to get mad at 2 mask dam claiming its unfair and bs because face tanking isnt viable anymore something something

[worldly wren]

@hazy sentinel Imo I agree, he is easy, but my problem is I am inconsistent. Like I only win 90% of the time, and thats if I have full health. Otherwise I could die.

Oh and I couldnt care less about radiant or all bound so yeah

[compact sedge]

add @onyx osprey to your github project so he can just git push when @copper nacelle

[onyx osprey]

lol that would make things easier, wouldn't it

[compact sedge]

here's a link since you're lazy https://github.com/5FiftySix6/HollowKnight.Multiplayer/settings/collaboration

only 56 can click this

everyone who isn't 56 don't click this

[fair rampart]

oops

[compact sedge]

almost like you need to be logged into 56's account to click it

[fair rampart]

[compact sedge]

also I have a question about silksong

are we actually gonna build a whole new modding api or are we gonna be lazy and use partiality or something?

[onyx osprey]

ew partiality

[brazen mortar]

https://youtu.be/6SnPWDPJVp0

Hmmmm

[trim totem]

classic superforge

[fierce prism]

Hmmmmmmm

[civic hare]

the height of comedy

[floral furnace]

i mean, at least he knows his target audience

[brazen mortar]

6 and younger

[sleek laurel]

okay I'm trying to install an API mod and I'm having trouble I'm not sure what to do. I've got the modding API installed but I'm not sure where to put the mod to have it work.

[flat forum]

#archived-modding-help

also

when you unironically laugh at a Superforge video

[marsh sapphire]

Is the fury of the fallen still an item with claw requirement in current randomiser?

[cunning lagoon]

yes

[rain cedar]

No it's always geo

[cunning lagoon]

right

duh

[lime finch]

MA BA SPLOOM

[hollow hearth]

does dexterity in the bonfire mod decrease your strength?

[worldly wren]

Does "claim" mean just get the enemy or get enough enemies for the extra description? (Lightbringer)

[solemn rivet]

@hollow hearth no, but since enemies balance with your levels...

[hollow hearth]

Ah, yeah that makes sense

[solemn rivet]

I have no idea why people still play that mod

It's really no fun to play

And it's broken

[floral furnace]

gradow real shit i have a feeling if youre given the power to go back in time the first thing youre gonna do is wipeout bonfire

[solemn rivet]

No

It made me who I am today

[hollow hearth]

Because it looked interesting

But my interest is kind of lost already

[solemn rivet]

If not for bonfire, I would still be blind to the evils shitty mods

[jagged panther]

Hello! Where can I get mods and their descriptions of what they do?

I've found some mods but I don't know what they do

[floral furnace]

;summary

no wait wrong command

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xRcL7LJHQbN_lpNYWKYggGA_st0ewnLd1s5X20ukD7s/edit#

[jagged panther]

thanks!

[dusky lion]

You’re welcome!

[warped sinew]

Trying to play this game but finding it too hard? Need a boost in your performance? Now you can use the power of G.R.A.I.G with the new Graig Knight! Never again will that pesky NKG give you trouble!

https://gfycat.com/GentleSlimIchthyosaurs

[cunning lagoon]

not even 11 hits smh

[warped sinew]

[urban wind]

thats an abomination

[floral furnace]

this is art

[fierce prism]

oh, I downloaded it and immediately beat rad PP without even beating ascended!

[floral furnace]

what do you mean

[fierce prism]

truly amazing

[ornate rivet]

no, this is graig knight

[urban wind]

i think the pale king was on far too many drugs when creating that

[floral furnace]

Graig will we have a Silksong Preorder special edition bonus where we have Custom Graig Skin?

~~or its a Kickstarter backer exclusive 😔 ~~

[warped sinew]

ehh yeah sure

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1H0i-XrNmwnGxX2kXB3wmbfYkb2Yn9_4W

here it is, silksong

im leaking it

[floral furnace]

oh god oh fuck

[urban wind]

thats it you're fired

i would pay 60 dollars for this

[fierce prism]

is it press kit?

or what did he send

[fair rampart]

graig

[floral furnace]

literally the custom knight skin

[ornate rivet]

he sent silksong

[fair rampart]

how long did you spend on this

[fierce prism]

oh

a skin?

nice

[warped sinew]

i spent the last 2 hours doing that, all for that one joke

100% worth it

[floral furnace]

making a Custom Knight spritesheet == graigory not playtesting Hornet Not DLC DLC == DLC not close to release yet 😔

[urban wind]

you're singlehandedly delaying silksong

[warped sinew]

yeah the game is ready but i keep finding fake bugs

just to push it back further

[fair rampart]

that means silksong has been delayed by 2 hours 😔

[fierce prism]

bugs like husks? or mantises

[weak lodge]

graig that was only 9 hits though

oh also

[ornate rivet]

I thought it was 10

[warped sinew]

god i knew i shouldn't have used that vid, it was my first attempt

[weak lodge]

graig did you see this? https://youtu.be/dM6MomkqhYQ

[warped sinew]

i was like... i bet they will comment on the hits

[ornate rivet]

nvm it was 9

[weak lodge]

someone radiant nail only charmless'd pale prince and i hadn't even noticed

[ornate rivet]

yea Denots is god

[weak lodge]

hes definately on this server to have gotten the mod right?

[ornate rivet]

they're on this discord, just not active

[cunning lagoon]

definately

[warped sinew]

lol that dude.... is really good

his reaction time is legit

[weak lodge]

i could theoretically do it but im not willing to invest another 20 hours into this boss

charmless just lengthens the fight

still, late congrats to Dentos

[floral furnace]

kuro do pp radiant no damage and bet someone to beat it or else youll make eldergod hu

[weak lodge]

nail only radiant do it u wont

[cunning lagoon]

no

[weak lodge]

ok

[warped sinew]

weavers only

omg... i can put little graig faces on them too

and gimmkin

[weak lodge]

im not sure if weavers are supported

or adds in general

[warped sinew]

😦

[weak lodge]

ask whoever made the mod, i keep forgetting

im sure it wont take long to add

[ornate rivet]

I can add them for you graig

[cunning lagoon]

i'd be impressed if you got sean to change customknight

[weak lodge]

easy just get 56 to change his pfp and nickname

[warped sinew]

how come you cant just change the sprites? Why does it even need a mod?

[ornate rivet]

you can but it's painful, and once the game updates you have to redo it all

[warped sinew]

Probably not too many updates left to come, I feel they might do a final one to clean up a few bugs but no idea when or even if that will come out

[ornate rivet]

You need UABE if you want to edit sprites without a mod
https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?22675-Unity-Assets-Bundle-Extractor

[warped sinew]

Nec minnit, new content pack out of nowhere

[ornate rivet]

753 has the link in the pins in case you don't trust mine

it's the very last pin

[warped sinew]

thanks

[ornate rivet]

the site looks sketchy

[floral furnace]

hey 7 days to die was pretty cool 😔

[floral furnace]

graig you said you were willing to breach nda for 100,000$, would you be willing for the same if all the sprites in the game were replaced with your face

[solemn rivet]

This, but unironically

[warped sinew]

like literally every sprite? What kinda madness are you thinking!?

Hell Mod ver 2

[floral furnace]

No Cost Too Great for Silksong

[solemn rivet]

Actually

Replace all grubs with Graig

[warped sinew]

how about this, i'll get your steam ID and then make a version of Silksong with all my face then when the game comes out it will know your unique ID and change the game for you

[solemn rivet]

And their sounds with any sound sample you want to send us of your marvelous voice

And replace grubfather with kuro's face

[warped sinew]

Kuro senpai

[ornate rivet]

How come multiplayer mod's code only checks for controller input now and not keyboard

[solemn rivet]

He gon eat ya

[ornate rivet]

was there a problem with keyboard?

[solemn rivet]

Yes

It's not a controller

[cunning lagoon]

therefore its superior

[warped sinew]

they had a great problem where you could only control the 2nd knight and not the first

[solemn rivet]

No u

[warped sinew]

perfection

[floral furnace]

i thought it was a private repo

[ornate rivet]

no

[solemn rivet]

Graigsong when

[ornate rivet]

after Graig DLC

[floral furnace]

Graigs and Glory

then it gets shutdown again because another mobile game uses the same name 😔

[warped sinew]

I should just make a mobile game called that. and its a coming of age game about Dung Defender as a teenager

[solemn rivet]

I can relate to being a dung defender as a teenager tbh

[floral furnace]

DUNGeon Defender 🤔

[warped sinew]

damn shitty teens

[ornate rivet]

freaking millennials

[weak lodge]

El Ow El

[pseudo geyser]

Hello

Where can i find lightbringer mod?

[worldly wren]

Just download the mod installer (pinned messages), it gives you a list of mods do download online with one click and Lightbringer is among those mods

[pseudo geyser]

Thank you

[weak lodge]

or i mean

[dusky lion]

The rare wholesome sherma

[fair rampart]

graig will there be fireflies in silksong?

[fierce prism]

firefly will there be songs in graigsilk?

[urban wind]

high quality graigsilk

[warped sinew]

https://gfycat.com/classicofficialintermediateegret

thats the correct link

@cunning lagoon

[cunning lagoon]

now this is something

[warped sinew]

the jump thing at the end is hard but once you get into the rhythm its not too bad

now i wonder if 12 is possible, i doubt it.

[cunning lagoon]

almost certainly not

[warped sinew]

so I am thinking of starting a Tutorial video series for the noobs and now I am going to use that dumb graig skin for them all hahaha

[cunning lagoon]

[weak lodge]

PerpetualGraig

[solemn rivet]

that way no one can steal your vids

also, if you have sharp shadow you can get 12 hits

[warped sinew]

i had one go where i went a little wide on the third pillar so the 4th spawned with enough distance away from grim that i had room to just stay on one side and didnt need to dash

i am wondering if done perfectly you might get another hit in

[cunning lagoon]

just tell the boys to make hk tasable

[warped sinew]

if you have sharp shadow and heavy blow

you will stagger him i think

i am pretty sure he is 13 hits to stagger normally

[solemn rivet]

but what would you have to sacrifice for that?

[warped sinew]

ehh who cares grimm super easy nowdays

[cunning lagoon]

a newborn child

[warped sinew]

dont need charms hahaha

[solemn rivet]

he is

but theoretically

[warped sinew]

well i still had a single notch free

could just overcharm into the sharp shadow

[solemn rivet]

what about heavy?

[warped sinew]

ahh fuck yeah i forgot about heavy boi

i dont think long nail is needed probably could do it with just MoP

[solemn rivet]

sure

[cunning lagoon]

yeah i didnt use longnail

[solemn rivet]

you're pretty close to him for that

[young walrus]

Graig knight has been added to the CustomKnight drive

b/c....reasons

[solemn rivet]

bc ofc it has

it's the best skin so far tbh

Micknight when

[young walrus]

I'll just cover up the entire knight sprite

so it's just a face

[solemn rivet]

even better

someone please make an actual beetle spritesheet

this is the knight

this is THK

this is dung defender zote

and this is 56's very hard and incredible PP

[fair rampart]

actually use the hercules beetle for false knight

[solemn rivet]

hmm

just make all sprites for the knight a still image

[shadow hatch]

@worldly wren where is that key room place is it part of a mod

[solemn rivet]

wdym

[cunning lagoon]

@solemn rivet where is that key room place is it part of a mod

[solemn rivet]

[shadow hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/550706059594039306/unknown.png

[cunning lagoon]

that's godhome

[solemn rivet]

ummm

yeah

[shadow hatch]

ohh

i havent done godmaster yet

[iron crown]

afro gorb

[fierce prism]

mega afro

[gilded thicket]

hey!

[fierce prism]

vsauce, michael here

[gilded thicket]

where do I find a mod?

thanks!

[fierce prism]

np

[fair rampart]

why is monstah called shriek route

[fierce prism]

bcoz why not

[cunning lagoon]

you'd know if you were in roll cancels

[fair rampart]

wat

roll cancels?

[fierce prism]

[iron crown]

:adminemote:

[real furnace]

If I install Lightbringer on an existing 112% file will it break the game? @ me with your response.

[young walrus]

no

still recommended to back up your saves before modding

if you care about those saves

@ me

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

[solar jacinth]

🤔

[fierce prism]

🤔

[ornate rivet]

@real furnace

[real furnace]

Alright, thank you.

[eternal crown]

Wtf is with Lost Lord? He was normal black-blue before. I even re-installed the mod

[fierce prism]

wait what

did he go crazy?

[urban wind]

tired of this pathetic damage with Lightbringer, should i just upgrade to +3 or 4?

[fierce prism]

upgrade to +7

best dmg ever

nail bind stops working

[urban wind]

+7? this ain't dark souls

[fierce prism]

it is

Hollow Souls

[urban wind]

wait are there more than 4 upgrades

[fierce prism]

on lightbringer

yes

[fair rampart]

imagine not realizing how op lightbringer is

[urban wind]

oh wow

[fierce prism]

pale ore spawns in random locations

and every next one upgrade costs one more pale ore

[urban wind]

i thought it was just +4 like the base game

nice

[fierce prism]

plus 2 times previous geo

it stops at +10

[fair rampart]

lightbringer randomizes pale ore

what

since when

[fierce prism]

at +7 nail binds stops working

since always

[urban wind]

resorted to using Eye of the Storm or whatever the shaman stone replacement charm was called

lance isn't strong enough

[fierce prism]

it uses you soul

[fair rampart]

eye of the storm is dope

[urban wind]

so where do i find this pale ore?

[fierce prism]

idk

random

eg Blue Lake

[fair rampart]

I have an effect similar to it in charm overhaul

[fierce prism]

or Greenpath near Sheo

[urban wind]

does it spawn randomly or does it replace some pre-existing items?

[fierce prism]

in places something is + some new places

also in Kingdom's Edge on QS place

but to spawn in an existing place you need to get the item that is there first

[fair rampart]

it would suck if you don't know where all the relics are and it replaces one you don't know about

[urban wind]

so far i only found the one in ancient basin which iirc is supposed to be there

everything else i've picked up is normal so far

[fierce prism]

no, it doesn't replace not collected items

[fair rampart]

like, there is this one super well hidden hallownest seal in deepnest

[fierce prism]

it doesn't replace it until you get it

[fair rampart]

how tf does that work

[fierce prism]

it doesn't

time to stop this

[urban wind]

oooooh

i see

i don't keep their locations in mind

i just pick them up and move on

[copper nacelle]

@eternal crown I made that not the default

You can change it in the config file if you like blue-black better

[eternal crown]

Oh. this is not a bug?

phew

but it was strange. in first 5 fights it was black-blue and than changed

[lament kernel]

I think my mod installer has stopped working, should I just download it again?

[fierce prism]

maybe

[weak lodge]

Perhaps

[lament kernel]

nice profile pics

[worthy sphinx]

Beep

[hollow hearth]

@copper nacelle i havent done any research yet or looked into any of this, but how do you make every box in the fsm do what its supposed to do? or do you just use the things the bosses previously already had to make a new fight

[fair rampart]

you could prob look at the source code of mods like pp

to see how they do it

from what I understand, they have to destroy the FSM, and rebuild it code

[hollow hearth]

i sort of understand the fsm, but ill need to look more into what more you need to do

[ornate rivet]

wdym Myrth

you mean the boxes in the fsm reader?

each box is called a state and inside each state is a list of actions

you can force a boss's ai to go to a certain state with:
_control.SetState("NAME_OF_THE_BOX")
_control is the fsm you are controlling

this method is not recommended though

[dusky lion]

[mortal trout]

[dusky lion]

[mortal trout]

no

[weak lodge]

no

[ornate rivet]

You can edit an action inside a state with (this will take a bit):

[dusky lion]

Sad face

):

[ornate rivet]

So you have this state

and inside it there's this

[hollow hearth]

would you theoretically be able to just copy and move the boxes inside the fsm? (assuming thats how it works i have no clue)

[ornate rivet]

the fsmreader only reads fsms. We change the fsms through code.

[hollow hearth]

right

[ornate rivet]

if you want to copy a box you can use
_control.CopyState("BOX_NAME","NEW_BOX_NAME")

is that what you meant?

[hollow hearth]

no i assumed the viewer worked like an editor

[ornate rivet]

oh no

[hollow hearth]

which in hindsight was quite a stupid assumption

[ornate rivet]

it's just a viewer after all

[hollow hearth]

if its with code its going to take me a lot longer to figure this out haha

[ornate rivet]

you can buy the playmaker unity extension for $45

[fair rampart]

haha

no

[ornate rivet]

it's on sale

[fair rampart]

that's a sale

!?

how much is it normally

[weak lodge]

nice

[fair rampart]

volume pricing??

[ornate rivet]

yes

[fair rampart]

what's that

[ornate rivet]

the more you buy the less the price

[fair rampart]

why would you buy more than 1

[ornate rivet]

multiple computers?

[fair rampart]

can't you just

transfer

[ornate rivet]

clearly not

[dusky lion]

I mean what

[ornate rivet]

dnspy

we already have all the code

someone could make an editor with that code

[hollow hearth]

literally buying 50 is cheaper than 1

buy 50 and use one

oh wait thats a piece

im fucking stupid

[mortal trout]

same

[fair rampart]

@warped sinew trilobeetle for silksong bone place?

[hollow hearth]

hell i'd buy that and then dont understand how it works and give up

[weak lodge]

?

[hollow hearth]

so i guess when i get home again ill fuck around with the normal modding stuff and figure out what the hell to do

[ornate rivet]

since no one else is doing it, maybe I should update the modding doc so that it explains how to edit fsms

[fair rampart]

would have been helpful when I was making overhaul

but the radiance site had a bunch of stuff blank

TODO

[ornate rivet]

indeed

make a GPZ fight with all the zote minions

since you're done overhaul

[fair rampart]

not done just lazy

[ornate rivet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/384146478354137091/541773745325473792/sigh.gif

[hollow hearth]

just yall wait

[fair rampart]

also some of things I want I actually have no idea how to do

like up cdash

[hollow hearth]

ill learn to mod and make some obscurely difficult and heavily rng based bee boss

[ornate rivet]

sounds good

[vivid crag]

Lifebar isn't working when i fight pp

[ornate rivet]

is pp not tagged as boss?

@copper nacelle

could be a feature tbh

[vivid crag]

Pp but it's every enemy mod when

[fair rampart]

imagine volatile zotelings not breaking hp bar

[vivid crag]

Or wingsmoulds

[fair rampart]

i think wingsmoulds are fine

they are tags with no hp bar

by the mod

[vivid crag]

I guess i use an older version then

[fair rampart]

unless it broke

[vivid crag]

That might be why it doesn't recognize pp

[fair rampart]

haven't been in WP with hpbar for a while

[hollow hearth]

ill make my boss so rng not even graig kurosh and knightmere can beat it

[ornate rivet]

ew

[hollow hearth]

jk my boss will probably be very easy

[fair rampart]

no one wowuld play it

if it was that rng

[ornate rivet]

then we couldn't use it in the ng+ mode hopefully we will one day make once all the bosses are modded

[vivid crag]

The PP jumping more often it's an actual feature or is it because you are in air a kot?

[hollow hearth]

well its gonna have some factor of rng thats for sure

[vivid crag]

Lot*

[hollow hearth]

but probably pretty mild

[vivid crag]

Everything has rng

Even gruzz mother

It decides which attack she's doimg

Doing *

In theory

[worldly wren]

Well I got Lightbringer's trademark charm

[fierce prism]

if I succeed somehow in making bee boss it's gonna be probably just a little bit harder than mild XD

smth on maybe Mantis Gods level

[hollow hearth]

thought you said you werent going to?

[vivid crag]

So it's still a race

Lol

[fierce prism]

I dunno if I'm going to

on one hand I have exams this year, but on the other hand I'm not gonna study so I might do a bee boss

or maybe I'll leave bee boss to you and do smth else

idk

[hollow hearth]

i mean please decide soon because i dont want to create duplicate bosses

[vivid crag]

Tbh you should study

Everyone is happy

[fierce prism]

nah, I got average 93% on the non proper

I could ofc go for 100% avg, but why XD

[hollow hearth]

so michu you gonna steal the bee or do i get the bee

[fierce prism]

lemme think about other nice bosses to mod

[ornate rivet]

the multiplayer mod is going to be awesome

@copper nacelle
we should add as many hk characters as possible

maybe even non-hk characters

[fair rampart]

neat

[fierce prism]

I think I could do Sheo Myrth

[fair rampart]

why not quirrel

[ornate rivet]

quirrel doesn't move

unless you want to draw moving sprites for him

[fair rampart]

no I'm good thx

[ornate rivet]

sigh

[weak lodge]

what the fuck

how'd you get hornet playbale 😩 sad you dont have silksong sprites

[hollow hearth]

how limited are you regarding boss attacks?

[ornate rivet]

wdym?

you can change anything that is in the game

you can add stuff to

but that requires drawing

[fierce prism]

you can do basically anything

[weak lodge]

what if when silksong comes out we get playable hornet ez

[fierce prism]

but if you add something completely new, you ofc need to draw it

[ornate rivet]

I can use this for now to make running smoother
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/hollowknight/images/3/32/Hornet_walk_animation.gif/revision/latest?cb=20181202133125

and I can use this as a heal
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/hollowknight/images/a/a9/Hornet_animation_2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20181202133138

[hollow hearth]

as in are you limited to cranking up a bosses default attacks or can you use attacks from other bosses or can you create entire new things

[ornate rivet]

you can use attacks from other bosses

and you can make entirely new things

DoH uses attacks from other bosses

and Pale Champion will have completely new attacks

[young walrus]

Pale prince adds new attacks

[fierce prism]

Pale Champion? Failed Champ buff?

[fair rampart]

pale lurker

but I can see how the name would confuse

[hollow hearth]

how would that work animation wise?

[weak lodge]

Failed Champion Gundyr

[young walrus]

The key Master

[ornate rivet]

@hollow hearth
You add the animation as a tk2dspriteanimator thingy and when you want to play the animation you do:
gameobject.GetComponent<tk2dspriteanimator>().Play("NAME OF ANIMATION")

[sly onyx]

Hey anyone have the randomizer mode so i can try it out?

[hollow hearth]

yeah i have no idea what this means

im working this backwards haha

[ornate rivet]

it shouldn't be as hard as it sounds

[hollow hearth]

when i get home ill just sit down at my computer and read trough everything

[ornate rivet]

I've never added animation before so I am not completely sure

all I know is that you have to first get a spritesheet in code then turn it into a tk2dSpriteAnimationClip then play it with tk2dSpriteAnimator

I know how to get the spritesheet with code but idk how to convert it into a tk2dclip

[hollow hearth]

like i said before, its probably best if i learn the basics of this thing first

[ornate rivet]

yes

[hollow hearth]

which is gonna be difficult without a pc around

[ornate rivet]

how are you modding without a pc

[fair rampart]

magic

[fierce prism]

he's doing it on phone

[dark wigeon]

Install mono on an Android then run dnspy console thru userland

[vivid crag]

Wut

[fair rampart]

Wut

[vivid crag]

I have an idea for rad mod

[fair rampart]

what's userland

[vivid crag]

In the last phase she got every attack

[dark wigeon]

I know it works because I've done it

Let's you install Linux distros without root

[fair rampart]

huh

[fierce prism]

imo with every attack it would be easier

you could kill her during her laser attack XD

[dark wigeon]

I haven't tried it with termux but termux just recompiles everything

[vivid crag]

Imagine getting overlapped with no floor

[fierce prism]

it wouldn't be that bad

believe me

[fair rampart]

you are using these words but I don't know what you are saying

[fierce prism]

plus yeah, one lasers and she ded

[ornate rivet]

userland emulates a linux distribution

[vivid crag]

I mean absrad

[fierce prism]

ik

[vivid crag]

Oh

[fierce prism]

you can shoot her with 3 shrieks during lasers

1 shriek with sstone = 120dmg

she has 300hp in phase 6

[vivid crag]

But what if you can't use soul

[hollow hearth]

how about not being at home

[fierce prism]

then still you could get like 6 nail hits

with ustrength you need 10 hits

[dark wigeon]

Program only using teamviewer

[vivid crag]

But what if she has more hp

M. Sjc7e9

Wut

[fierce prism]

then I guess it'd be nice

but if it was just a phase 6 change then it would be boring imo

[vivid crag]

Someone should mod another binding where you can't use ddark

[fierce prism]

maybe like do a phase 7 where she repels the void (reversed animation of it ascending), goes back to the beggining platform and there she is faster, has more health and more ground is spiky?

[vivid crag]

Plottwist:she has infinite hp

[fierce prism]

Infinite absrad mod with optional AsbRad version of NGG?

I like it

[vivid crag]

How can sly be modded so he's harder than normal

I mean he's not hard

[fierce prism]

uhhhh

idk

[vivid crag]

But i don't think you can mod him to be harder woth what we have

[fierce prism]

make him a real vietcong partisan

[fair rampart]

make the nail twice as big

[vivid crag]

It would require drawing

Oh

What if sly would throw geo

[fierce prism]

YES

[ornate rivet]

you could have an attack where geo rocks drop from the sky

and geos that damage you scatter around the arena whenever one falls

[vivid crag]

If i will start to mod i would mod zoot the mity

[ornate rivet]

ok

[vivid crag]

How's pale champion going

[ornate rivet]

very iffy

I've given up on making it hard

my goal now is just to make it a boss fight

[copper nacelle]

@hollow hearth the state has an array of actions

each action is an instance of a class

if does a certain pre-specified things with given arguments (set as fields)

[fair rampart]

Hey! i am new here, someone pls send me the link, so i can install the mods

[copper nacelle]

You can change said state by adding actions, removing actions, and changing actions

Any #archived-modding-help

[fair rampart]

Thx

[copper nacelle]

@ornate rivet I haven't changed the tags; it's whatever pure vessel was

[vivid crag]

My hp bar mod it's old so maybe that's the problem

Is PP jumping more often because you're in air a lot or is that an actual thing

[copper nacelle]

Former

Saleh did you add hornet to multiplayer

[solemn rivet]

That's nice

[urban wind]

Bloodsong eh?

rip grubsong

[weak lodge]

ok, now this is epic

[ornate rivet]

yes 56

it's a bit glitchy sometimes though

@copper nacelle

[amber plank]

im imaging a scene in my head where 2 people using the multiplayer mod find nosk for the first time and their like "wat" (just thought id share that)

[ornate rivet]

wouldn't it be cool if we made an arena where players could choose to be bosses and fight each other

it would be clunky

[amber plank]

and hard

to do

[ornate rivet]

not really

[amber plank]

well the attacks are in the code so i can see that

movement might be off

[ornate rivet]

it would be hard if you tried to make it not clunky

[amber plank]

yea

[copper nacelle]

@ornate rivet any pull request

[ornate rivet]

I am not done with it

jumping and running work but that's it

[copper nacelle]

[ornate rivet]

I mean movement doesn't work at all with the code online right now

[copper nacelle]

what

[ornate rivet]

the code on your github

[copper nacelle]

But it does

[ornate rivet]

it doesn't move the second knight

[copper nacelle]

but it does

[ornate rivet]

at least for me

[copper nacelle]

any controller

[ornate rivet]

I used a controller

[copper nacelle]

wtf

Jump and movement were working fine yesterday

[ornate rivet]

and it said ps4 controller detected in the log

[copper nacelle]

Are you using 2 controllers or 1 kb 1 controller

[ornate rivet]

1 kb 1 controller

does it only work with 2 controllers?

[copper nacelle]

Idk Scooterboot made it work for two but before he changed it it was for 1

I haven't tested the two controller stuff with kb

[ornate rivet]

also hornet gets stuck sometimes

[copper nacelle]

Did you adjust the collider

[ornate rivet]

oh good point

[copper nacelle]

hmm

[weak lodge]

56 re add the ability to hit levers through walls for QoL thanks

[copper nacelle]

no

[weak lodge]

thank you for your gracious compliance

[ornate rivet]

knightmere just do it yourself and change the modinstaller secretly