@copper nacelle the new pillars are good, it actually feels like a decision to dodge either jaws of death or falling spikes, is this going to be the final build?
#archived-modding-development
copper nacelle
i might fix the visual glitches at some point
weak lodge
are you still going to accept graig's radiant nail only or does he have to do it over 
copper nacelle
monkaHmm
weak lodge
anyhow, really good job
im enjoying this mod
do you know what boss youre doing next
solemn rivet
bold of you to assume there's a next one
weak lodge
its 56
solemn rivet
bold of you to assume it's 56
weak lodge
uh in case of hive knight make him spin in the air with skrew attack thanks, bee boss without wings makes no sense
also isnt that ttacco's mod
copper nacelle
yes
copper nacelle
i have not but i know what it is
weak lodge
he has the sprites already so
make up your mind is the mourning star a whip or a mace @ Gradow#9473
copper nacelle
i mean what
weak lodge
?
weak lodge
but both
solemn rivet
nope
solemn rivet
nope²
weak lodge
😔
solemn rivet
local boi rekts local boi²
weak lodge
local man absolutely molests child with FACTS and LOGIC
solemn rivet
molest 
weak lodge
yes
weak lodge
this is cursed
solemn rivet
just got out of one like two weeks ago
weak lodge
ic
solemn rivet
also
weak lodge
shitshitshit i still have this assignment to do that ive been putting off because pale prince
solemn rivet
I'll be teaching on uni this semester
so I might not have the time I thought I'd have to work on blackmoth2 - blackmother
weak lodge
why not just leave all your lessons in #archived-modding-development since this is your squadfam™
solemn rivet
tbf it's first semester, undergraduate entrance course
introduction to linear algebra and analytic geometry
so I guess people might actually understand something
weak lodge
it do
solemn rivet
specially or boi prodigy 15yo wornderboi
weak lodge
how the hell did you get elected
do you write your own speeches
help i need radienHmm
56 is uumuu's barrier considered a shield in game
amber plank
hey so i wanted to start trying out the blackmoth/redwing mods but ive heard they have issues with each other is this still true?
copper nacelle
pretty sure redwing is specifically made to work with blackmoth
iron bobcat
the mod summary google page says that the two have issues working together
weak lodge
wtf
fair rampart
hazy sentinel
time to make it view only
copper nacelle
yeah these suggestions are terrible
brazen mortar
upcoming hornet dlc which doesnt exist
hazy sentinel
they're only broken in balance mySonRat
there are probably still a few glitches but they're largely playable
amber plank
alrighty
brazen mortar
what a good suggestion
amber plank
hey odd question but in the installer theres redwing and redwing assets why is this?
that*
copper nacelle
because redwing has cutscenes
and the creator didn't want to make people download cutscenes if they have shit internet
amber plank
oh so the assets gives that
hazy sentinel
i hate my life
amber plank
thanks again
hazy sentinel
🚟
urban olive
F :(
hazy sentinel
thank you spanish lit very cool
hazy sentinel
volo mori
copper nacelle
similis
weak lodge
es este yo
hazy sentinel
Sale BATRICIO, pensativo 😔
Celos, reloj 🕰 de cuidados 🚦 , que a todas las horas 🕙 🕚 tormentos con que matáis 🗡 , aunque dais desconcertados;
weak lodge
do do do spanish things
amber plank
does the unofficial hollow knight patch work with all the other installer mods?
warped sinew
Top spikes are easy to dodge its true
hazy sentinel
maybe i should keep my pens in my pen slip 
hazy sentinel
Sale EL DUQUE OCTAVIO.
brazen mortar
whats disspointing is that he got hit by vanilla gruz mother
fair rampart
Chaos mode is a blessing
buoyant obsidian
what in the fuck
amber plank
is it normal for the "redwing" mod to not drain soul when you heal?
amber plank
just checkin
vapid cape
Is there any particular reason DoH is fucking out my game real bad? Like, I hit new game, and I see flashes of SoB, end up stuck in NKG's floor, and then soon after zip off into the void.
fair rampart
i'd love to see a clip of that
but um, the guy that made DoH took a break from the server for a week
vapid cape
I seee. So definitely one to leave disabled until I'm actually ready to fight it.
Thanks.
cunning lagoon
yeah
fair rampart
dusty cliff
They do not disable achievements.
I know because I still got them with the Debug mod installed.
real furnace
So I was told. Any mods that you can recommend?
stone cobalt
QoL
real furnace
Full name?
stone cobalt
so you can run PoP
dusty cliff
I just have it to increase the fov, but it can also make you a god, and I still got achievements.
stone cobalt
Quality of Life mod
dusty cliff
QoL mod is great, yes. Skippable cutscenes, quiet Salubra's blessing, repeatable PoP, and more.
I would also recommend CustomKnight if you want to play as our grand overlord Zote the Mighty.
Or just get a fancy cape.
real furnace
Doesnt QoL also break the game, glitch it out?
(Also are these links in the drive?)
dusty cliff
Yeah.
I have heard it messes with the dreamer fights triggering right, but I never had any issues.
You can disable them in the mod menu that the API adds for the dreamer fights.
Put it back on afterwards.
dusty cliff
https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe for all mods. It will download and install them for you, you just need to tell it which you want.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VlXmvI6KT2vzsGItY2w3rHjeCFx8DN0n for custom knight skins.
Both are pinned.
real furnace
Thank you.
dusty cliff
QoL also makes save files human readable, so if a mod messes something up, you can fix it manually.
real furnace
Alright.
Bonfire mod? Changes benches into bonfires?
Whats the best charm overhaul mod?
buoyant obsidian
Lightbringer is a full on combat overhaul, so with it there are a lot of charms replaced
real furnace
So if I install them, can I just launch HK through Steam with the mods available to play?
Alright.
buoyant obsidian
I made it though so I'm biased
real furnace
Hey, maybe Ill try it
buoyant obsidian
yeah if you use the mod installer then you just launch HK in steam and it'll work
dusty cliff
When you install Custom Knight, it adds a new folder.
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods\CustomKnight
real furnace
Ah, ok.
dusty cliff
There should be six files in there. Back them up and replace them with downloaded ones.
real furnace
Alright.
real furnace
Huh.
Im not seeing the file.
Im blind.
Nvm.
@dusty cliff Any fast way to view the skins?
Nvm
fierce prism
I swear the updated ceiling blades PP attack caused a heart attack just a while ago
iron crown
I complained to 56 that the new ceiling blades were gay so he said ok and changed them back to the original
Maybe if you complain hard enough he'll update it again 
fierce prism
nah, they're not bad
just scared me to death
also if my eyes aren't tricking me again the other blades attack has now shorter ceiling blades
fierce prism
well, I think it wouldn't be PP 2.0 if it was only one attack updated XD
iron crown
Maybe he just reverted the ceiling blades last minute as part of a bigger update or something idk
I was watching someone stream it before and after the update yesterday and it didn't seem like anything else was different
fierce prism
tbh when I've done a couple more tries now it seems that the other blades are the same they were
iron bobcat
Ngl beginning Lightbringer (and even much later on with upgrades) damage is significantly worse than with the standard nail
But I guess that’s the price for adding a little range
amber plank
ive got a question about the "redwing" mod simply put what are all the abilitys it gives you? it mentions 8 but im just wandering what these 8 are and if theres any other things it does
iron bobcat
2 I know of:
Red flame surrounds you and it takes 1 damage for you sometimes
When you heal it spawns a flame that damages enemies
amber plank
i also know that the nail arts seem to spawn some fire balls? whatever those do
and the spells seem to give enemys some sort of particle effect which i also dont know about
so besides an explanation on these 2 theres still 4 more abilitys i dont know about
sick hollow
Hey guys I was able to install the mod installer on mac and even installed the mods, but now my wireless controller won't work with the game, it works with keyboard but not with the controller, can you please help?
dusky lion
raw vessel
Is there a write up for how to use custom knight?
Also how do you remove the infinite charm notch mod? Seems like it's still working after disabling and then uninstalling.
solemn rivet
You can't disable it. It's a trap meant to catch cheaters
young walrus
raw vessel
@solemn rivet o no
young walrus
there. updated my pin to include this too
raw vessel
For real though is there a way to fix that?
amber plank
Still wondering what all 8 fire ability are in redwing
young walrus
install notch mod
go into game, disable the effect on that save through the menus
uninstall mod
amber plank
BTW redwing is it supposed to have a fire around the knight or a red ring?
young walrus
yes
raw vessel
What menus exactly @young walrus ? Mods option is just skipped over.
When I try scrolling to it.
young walrus
use your mouse
weak lodge
Wouldn’t using mouse have been the next thing someone would do if it’s just skipped over in menus
finite herald
Anyone willing to do a binding mods and reduce ascended collectors and markoths damage dealt to 1? 
sturdy kite
whats the deal with the hero_damage asset? i've tried changing but i cant get this one to work. i did it with the hero_dash and hero_double_damage tho
im trying to change the audio clips from the game with my own btw
marble stream
I think there was a binding mod
weak lodge
there is a binding mod that gives you panetheon bindings for practice
the answer to your problem is practice the bosses
marble stream
Well you can always use god mode
weak lodge
just dont
marble stream
Is it just me or mod editor is not pinned
*save editor
copper nacelle
🤔
marble stream
cunning lagoon
🤔
rain cedar
Ah
See when you said mod I thought you meant mod
I see now that it was foolish of me to assume randoms know how to type sentences that make sense
copper nacelle
It's almost like there's an easier to use editor pinned
marble stream
Wait, didnt I say that I thought it was not pinned?
Well whatever, the one that I posted is online so I guess its better
copper nacelle
yes the online editor with no source is better than the open source project with an actual ui
young walrus
glad you agree
weak lodge
i too am happy he agrees
WTF
that dash into grid attack robbed me of 4 radiants now
rain cedar
Unfortunate
weak lodge
56 fix your mod 😔
copper nacelle
dodge better
I don't get what I'm supposed to fix
It's over distance not time I think
He moves less so the particles dissolve slower
weak lodge
ok so basically just cling to right wall till it goes
weak lodge
yes
marble stream
@copper nacelle
onyx osprey
Alright, so, I need some advice.
This is gonna sound silly, but I'm trying to make a multiplayer mod (for starters, it's simple local MP on a single machine). I'm fairly skilled in C#, but I'm completely new to Hollow Knight modding. The way I want to go about it is by having a clone of the player in game that is controlled by another controller (or keyboard).
What I'm asking is this:
What's the best possible way to go about doing this?
A) Create a new player class that just inherits the regular player class(es).
B) Create a new player class with manually written in new behavior, animation code, etc.
Moreover, I need to know some specifics like how the other player should be created, i.e. should it be created on game load or every new scene?
And of course I need some info on making new assignable buttons/keys, if possible.
I was told in #archived-modding-help to ask @copper nacelle
copper nacelle
wow i'm literally doing the same thing
onyx osprey
oh shite
solemn rivet
@copper nacelle
onyx osprey
Aw
cunning lagoon
@copper nacelle
copper nacelle
Regular player class commits suicide when you instantiate it more than once
It's a pain
onyx osprey
Wow okay
copper nacelle
Also this is c# so you can't override stuff because stuff isn't virtual by default
This is how far I got https://streamable.com/d891v
not great but progress ig
onyx osprey
oh wow that's awesome
cunning lagoon
thanks, i made it
onyx osprey
Do you need help with it?
copper nacelle
help would be cool
onyx osprey
Well then hit me up
hollow pier
56 why are you doing this instead of fixing the bindings mod and also making ascended bosses deal one damage
dusky lion
i CaN pLAyTeST tHe MoD fOr yOU
onyx osprey
lmao
buoyant obsidian
:o multiplayer mod coming soon?
onyx osprey
And I've been bored looking for something to do, so maybe I can actually make progress on this? 🤷
And cool
copper nacelle
my idea for affecting enemy AI is due to it being FSMs I could override FsmGameObject.Value
check if the go is the knight
and if it is 50/50 it for being the other guy
onyx osprey
or have the enemy target whoever is closest, but yeah
copper nacelle
that'd also work
You'd still override FsmGameObject.Value
or at least that'd be the easiest way
Ah fuck
It also has to not fuck over fsms like the thk focus one
And literally all the FSMs on the knight
onyx osprey
Speaking of...
What are "FSMs"? Lol
copper nacelle
Finite state machines
onyx osprey
Ah
copper nacelle
Playmaker component which sucks to mod
onyx osprey
Now it makes sense
copper nacelle
they're like flowcharts and you can't see the code w/out dumping at runtime or using an external viewer someone made
fair rampart
How do you plan on doing health scaling?
Or will you make each nail upgrade apply to both players?
onyx osprey
I would imagine health upgrades and etc are shared
warped sinew
@copper nacelle you should stop making mods for this game and spend that time making your own game instead.
rain cedar
Programming is the easy part of making a game
Almost anyone can do that
Art, music, world design, etc are the hard part
buoyant obsidian
sad truth
copper nacelle
buoyant obsidian
and then there's the most difficult part
being the official unofficial lead tester
warped sinew
testing easily the hardest bit of making anygame, especially having to play a big bad game like HK
yeah but still, you should just make a game. You guys have a lot of ideas etc just start makign small things here and there and that will probably lead to new ideas etc
or just do what TC does and take a bunch of ideas from good games put into one lol
dusky lion
you could always just make the graphics an 8 bit retrothrowback
ez
still effort
but considerably less effort than 3d modeling cough senua sacrifice
warped sinew
i mean look at tetris 99
its just a remake of an old classic right, just do that
remake Zelda 1 - New art, story etc and you're done
rain cedar
Infringing on Nintendo IP 
They'll fuck you up
That's basically what ittle dew is actually
Very similar to zelda games, but a lot shorter
half laurel
ittle dew is a lot more puzzle-focused
weak lodge
am2r
buoyant obsidian
make a VR game
mortal trout
make weeb shit
hazy sentinel
NC lul
weak lodge
Graig I can’t even get halfway through radiant nail only now help
warped sinew
Make a semi nude anime game and charge micro transactions for the fully nude pics
weak lodge
Remake huni pop
weak lodge
Na I have more assignments to complete
scenic slate
misery as opposed to what?
copper nacelle
wealth
scenic slate
mortal trout
i cant believe wealth is automatic misery
onyx osprey
Hey so, Hollow Knight has this thing where if you plug in two controllers, they both control the knight, which makes sense, because singleplayer. But is there a way to change this? I've been wrecking my brain looking through source code, but I keep running into "private"/"protected"/"readonly" variables that I can't freaking modify. Does the mod loader need to specifically support input modification, or is there another way?
copper nacelle
you can modify those with reflection
onyx osprey
Reflection?
copper nacelle
typeof(thing).GetField("field", BindingFields.NonPublic | BindingFields.Instance).SetValue(instance, val);
onyx osprey
Oh fuck yes
copper nacelle
if you don't cache the fieldinfos you are bad
There is also an extension for objects in ModCommon which has .GetAttr, .SetAttr
which is easier
And auto-caches
solemn rivet
how you planning on dealing with the camera?
copper nacelle
i'm not; easy
copper nacelle
e
solemn rivet
also, pls help in -help
buoyant obsidian
bold strategy 56
hazy sentinel
instakill p2 when they go offscreen 
weak lodge
civic hare
i have a couple game ideas but i also have a couple extremely high effort mod ideas and clearly the latter is a better use of my time
copper nacelle
yes
cunning lagoon
why not both
rain cedar
But if you make your own game you don't have to deal with unity
Pretty big benefit
I did some work actually in the editor recently and I still hate it
The way it's set up really encourages highly specialized (Read: single purpose hard coded) components
civic hare
tbh both is what i really want to do, though that'd take awhile
buoyant obsidian
the way Unity is set up encourages using their components as much as possible over scripting
which wouldn't be so bad if their components were designed around being created / manipulated within scripts
rain cedar
Yeah this is what I mean
You constantly need scripts with like half a line of code to control their components
hazy sentinel
hmmm
hazy sentinel
why the fuck does excel turn 3/4 into 04-Mar when i type it into a cell
hazy sentinel
real pensive hours
brazen mortar
Is it supposed to be linear?
solemn rivet
Why tf are you doing a linear regression with so few points
Also, for only 5 points that's a pretty low R squared
limpid sand
can someone make a health bar mod?
weak lodge
There already is one
limpid sand
whats it called?
solar jacinth
EnemyHPBar
urban wind
started a Lightbringer mod run
good to be back playing the actual game rather than fighting uumuu for the 10th time
was going to use blackmoth and redwing but i ended up breaking quirrel and going places i shouldn't have multiple times
worldly wren
Let me guess, my computer username has russian characters which is why this happened
worldly wren
Due to reinstallation problems it's actually called Steam2
Ok it's working
How do I make textures look high quality
solemn rivet
wdym?
worldly wren
The modded textures look worse than the rest
And it's noticeable
I tried checking mod options but all I saw is mods on/off
young walrus
inb4 has shit computer mod on
worldly wren
young walrus
¯_(ツ)_/¯
the backgrounds and stuff look the same to me
the knight is a little blurry, but that sprite sheet is being replaced real time
you're also standing in a bright spot, which could be making it look more blurry than it is
urban wind
lightbringer is harder than i thought it would be
not a fan of being locked out of sly and salubra
worldly wren
Well thus far I only just beat false knight in lightbringer (Obviously before doing that I took a detour to hornet and got the dash)
solemn rivet
lightbringer was what made me discover that you can stun lock false knight
that is, you can stagger him before he finishes smashing the floor, so he never dies
chilly tangle
Is it possible to create new areas or enemies?
I have a fairly ambitious isea for a mod
idea*
young walrus
so do it
dusky lion
Could you write ai from scratch or would you have to use FSM
chilly tangle
hmm
solemn rivet
you can, finch
kindred sedge
does the enemy randomizer also change the coliseum fights?
copper nacelle
Yes
drifting vault
god, grubberfly's elegy is op with blackmoth mod
solemn rivet
wait, how have you got it already
drifting vault
godmaster gamemode
solemn rivet
orite
drifting vault
blackmoth is generally a powerful mod
i just killed markoth in 15 sec
this mod makes life so much easier
amber plank
sometimes just casual fun is fine id say
i just wish i could figure out everything redwing adds
now redwing + blackmoth is even more scary
solemn basin
It's a fun combo.
buoyant obsidian
I'm glad to hear people think Lightbringer is difficult, Josh
there are a ton of comments on the trailer that it makes the game pointlessly easy but they've never actually played it
worldly wren
I can also say it's difficult (Just got monarch wings by the way), the fact you don't get soul from hitting enemies and your damage is lower and upward/downward strikes are worthless for damage is great enough balance for having ranged combat.
Although from what I've seen, endgame charms do make the last portion of the game easy.
brazen mortar
i wish upwards and downwards had projectiles as well
solemn basin
Lightbringer has some fun difficult moments early game with one less mask and weaker damage. You get strong by the end but it's still a fun mod.
brazen mortar
it feels wierd switching between horizontal projectiles and then normal vertical hits
young walrus
there's a charm that gives upslash attacks
brazen mortar
always expected a projectile to come out when i jumped over anything
amber plank
atlest with lightbringer you can easily find out everythign it adds (unlike redwing which still confuses me on all it adds)
solemn basin
Dunno, I think downward slash would need to be there for pogoing.
brazen mortar
just have both
young walrus
it is
worldly wren
Yeah I know about Rising Light, I was in salubra's shop
brazen mortar
cause it feels like grubberflies and im used to grubberflies
so not having vertical just made it feel a bit awkward
worldly wren
I decided to buy that charm that makes you fire in both directions at once instead
buoyant obsidian
yeah it'd trivialize some of the ghost fights
worldly wren
Still haven't fought her
urban wind
don't know why locking the 2 vendors away was this important
worldly wren
I mean Salubra does sell some real powerful stuff so I see what he was going for
urban wind
kind of lost without sly and salubra
currently fighting soul master to get into crystal peak
worldly wren
So I see nail arts are still a thing in lightbringer, and unchanged too
urban wind
oh
well thats a little dissapointing
i was expecting a giant lance or something
whatever, just happy to be away from the hall of gods for a while
dusky lion
rng% on hollowmemesspeedrun when
urban wind
why not both?
solemn rivet
Because enemy rando is just for the lulz
worldly wren
Item rando is something I will definitely check out eventually
young walrus
and fresh
solemn rivet
Yeah
amber plank
i wish the boss rush mod was updated
dusky lion
I wish the gun mod was exist a with a circle around it ttacco
amber plank
starting from bass stuff and going threw each boss with a choice of reward
i know why its just i still liked it
worldly wren
I think enough for today. I'm personally loving this mod and I'm glad this is what I decided to do after getting 112%.
amber plank
i do wish nail arts did something in lightbringer that is different
feel like glass soul would be one of those good charms for godmaster in lightbringer
atlest for the hall of gods
solemn rivet
Just pay 753 money to do it
urban wind
whats the charm that lets you hit upwards?
urban wind
oh
solemn rivet
Very
amber plank
mmm
urban wind
has way more health
amber plank
interesting
urban wind
and she has a little heart on her head for some reason
amber plank
i think cause its called empress gruzzmother or something
i think its outta place but still cool
solemn rivet
You know, you guys should aim for the Infinite Grimm top score
amber plank
infinite grimm?
solemn rivet
reeee
urban wind
infinite NKG fight
urban wind
it gets faster the longer you last i think
solemn rivet
No one would die ever
amber plank
nightmare god grimm or king?
solemn rivet
King
amber plank
mmm
amber plank
so theres scores?
solemn rivet
Yup
But since no one plays it anymore, it's kinda ded
iirc kuro was on the top
And graig got a very nice score just recently
11k I think
urban wind
The Eternal Ordeal but every zote is actually NKG
solemn rivet
Or is it NGG that has that?
urban wind
vanilla has like 1.5k
solemn rivet
I can't remember
ic
So yeah
But he gets faster and has less staggers the longer the fight goes on
copper nacelle
I could add something for nail arts to lightbringer
@buoyant obsidian do you mind if I do
amber plank
dont think so?
amber plank
so nail arts in lightbringer i always hoped they would do something like a giant lance with great slash though with cyclone and dash i wouldent exactly know what to add there
urban wind
cyclone is a tornado of lances
amber plank
of course
urban wind
going in all directions
copper nacelle
i was gonna spawn 6 lances per spin
2 up/left/right
so you'd get like 30 for a slow fall cyclone
amber plank
wouldent make it to powerful
urban wind
thats what i'm thinking
amber plank
but yea abig aoe of lances is what id image
copper nacelle
They don't double hit so only two or three would hit
amber plank
with great slash thats more simple giant lance that does alot more damage then a single one
dash slash would be similer
i think
in the vanilla game cyclone slash can do insane damage if you hit all spins
so id image something similer in lightbringer
like if you can hit the majority of the nail art on a single target it will do good damage while having good aoe
(just saying if nail arts are changed too that would be amazing 😉 )
also maybe the nailmaster charm could be changed in some way
thats a maybe
also with cyclone instead of up left and right you could also had the up left and up right directions as well
so maybe 5 lances a spin in each direction if you wana go for a more aoe based
buoyant obsidian
@copper nacelle go right ahead as long as they're high quality and not OP
buoyant obsidian
I wanted to do nail arts but the code for them wasn't immediately visible so I didn't bother
dusky lion
Understandable
amber plank
of course
amber plank
PP?
solemn rivet
pp 
amber plank
what does that stand for?
solemn rivet
Pale Prince
amber plank
mmmm
solemn rivet
for Cyclone, might be a good idea to do what you were doing previously for pp
of making the lances form an arc
amber plank
random question is the pale prince mod a buff for ||pure vessel?||
solemn rivet
but instead make them orbit the knight for a fixed amount of time
yup
no need for spoiler tags here
dusky lion
Greenpath
dusky lion
Brooding Mawlek
buoyant obsidian
amber plank
yea theres several ideas for cyclone slash i think that in lightbringer as the most ideas
buoyant obsidian
this would be a really good attack
just a ring of lances, but they don't fly out
dusky lion
This is a good drawing, 753
solemn rivet
yup
buoyant obsidian
just like a general AoE around the player
amber plank
sense cyclone slash is already a close range attack i think making it more range based but less damage but have great aoe would be great
solemn rivet
but I pictured the lances spinning parallel to the player, not orthogonal to it
but I guess it doesn't matter
amber plank
spinning around player is fine but that seems like normal cyclone already
unless im imagining it wrong
solemn rivet
also, when the time runs out, make them fly off and deal damage to whatever they hit
so a better dreamshield
amber plank
sense AR boss as curving lances you could add that in there istead of straight lines
solemn rivet
did you play Timespinner, Spectra?
amber plank
no
solemn rivet
hmm
amber plank
tis good?
amber plank
so like replace swords for lances?
buoyant obsidian
spin vertically, what?
solemn rivet
like
amber plank
i got it
buoyant obsidian
ah yes
amber plank
i still think thats nice any addition to the nail arts if fine but as a personal taste
i think more range is a bit better
sense thats teh point
that feels more close range still
solemn rivet
yeah, but the idea is balance
amber plank
of course
amber plank
so add a close range attack in exchange?
solemn rivet
having some sort of "protection" or defense would be nice
amber plank
and have great slash as a slow big lance attack
young walrus
condoms
solemn rivet
and Dash Slash would be a big, anime-esque dash that zooms across the room and deals damage in a straight line
or maybe make it a charge attack?
as in, you draw your lance and charge at enemies, pushing them
waxen wyvern
whats the gitlab for UHKP?
amber plank
ok so my idea for the nail arts in lightbringer are, Great Slash ~ giant lance that can pass threw enemys but only deals damage once per enemy (lance likely as increased damage as well) Cyclone Slash ~ spawns normal lances around the player and shoot out towards enemys (maybe curve but that seems more complex)
dashslash i got no idea
uhkp?
waxen wyvern
unofficial hollow knight patch
weak lodge
Hmm
amber plank
oh oh i know with great slash into a giant lance it should have medium range instead of going across the screen so still good range but not anything insane while having a big hit box while dash slash as the much smaller hitbox that does go across the screen
throwing ideas
at the end of the day anything addition into lightbringer nail arts is a good addition
young walrus
make it explode your character
urban wind
got mark of pride
weak lodge
make cherry madness
urban wind
well this isn't what i expected
amber plank
what you mean josh
urban wind
it doesn't increase lance range
looks like it increases nail range
it says it does
that sounds incredibly useless
amber plank
i havent completed lightbringer in a long time but im assumeing mark of pride wasent changed
urban wind
nail does more damage and has more range depending on what i've "accomplished" which i think means how many enemies i've killed with it
young walrus
it's percentage
buoyant obsidian
greatslash could be a big ass horizontal beam
amber plank
like the radiances beam?
buoyant obsidian
yeah
amber plank
but still
mmm
that would fit
but how would that nto be op?
maybe it can only hit an enemy once
but every enemy in the beam will be hit
and the beam disapears quickly
like half a second
or 3/4 a second
i can so see that
actually i think burning pride does only affect the nail?
fierce prism
I'd really want to try Nightmare God Grimm but I;m afraid that if I somehow manage to kill him after a fuck ton of time then normal NKG would become as ez as PV after beating PP
mortal trout
why is that a bad thing
fierce prism
idk why exactly, but now if I have to fight PV anywhere it feels too much like a pushover and I feel like that'd happen to NKG too
but still probably gonna try NGG one day XD
mortal trout
if you continue doing the regular bosses they're still going to become pushovers
solemn rivet
You don't even need to beat it
I never beat NGG and I still find NKG to be a complete pushover
So much so that when GM first came out, it was my first radiant boss, and I got it first try
Even Troupe Master Grimm was harder
fierce prism
actually TMG becomes hard only after beating NKG XD
solemn rivet
True
fierce prism
you know what? fuck it, after I do what I decided I'll do I'll try NGG
mortal trout
ngg second phase is ech
cunning lagoon
ngg is free
mortal trout
😔
cunning lagoon
photoshop
mortal trout
same
solemn rivet
same
copper nacelle
same
brazen mortar
yeah imagine having a christmas pfp when its not even christmas
ornate rivet
imagine talking in modding without modding
weak lodge
actually i came to update on my radiant nail only pale prince but then i saw you typing
ornate rivet
what did he change?
weak lodge
falling pillars
ornate rivet
weren't they already a thing
weak lodge
theyre like how they used to be in the earlier versions
ornate rivet
funny enough I actually got somewhere with pale champion while I wasn't active here
and by that I mean I added an attack
mortal trout
pog
weak lodge
nice
saleh functions better without us
why is it every time i open up obs i just stop doing good
weak lodge
😔
ornate rivet
why do I keep getting this
dusky lion
wtf the wtf
ornate rivet
tactical ad placement
buoyant obsidian
targeted ads
dusky lion
ornate rivet
except I don't watch weeb videos
weak lodge
ech around 200~ hp and i died
hazy sentinel
i have now spent a nonzero amount of money on mechanical keyboards
buoyant obsidian
money well spent
weak lodge
ive done it
at 556 hours
i beat radiant nail only pale prince
fuck i closed out too fast and now i dont have gold badge
doesnt matter i have it on video
hazy sentinel
spliced
weak lodge
@copper nacelle @warped sinew https://youtu.be/v26nwx6fDIk
copper nacelle
nice
young walrus
that's grimm
weak lodge
its a personal skin
amber plank
ok just asking
amber plank
exactly
brazen mortar
What even was changed in the recent version of PP?
Also the grid attack is just unusually silent 
weak lodge
he changed the falling pillars
weak lodge
filthy spells
weak lodge
wtf
copper nacelle
i also like to make no sense
ornate rivet
also I can't wait till discord unlocks on my computer so I dont have to use this trash phone keyboard
weak lodge
nice
ornate rivet
dont nice me you cheater
weak lodge
why are you implying i cheated on 56's pp
buoyant obsidian
holy shit 56
those explosions look so good on pp
that'd be a neat replacement for like greatslash
double the charge-up time and just spam that shit randomly
semi-randomly so there's no overlap
amber plank
you talking about the nail arts in lightbringer 753 or am i misreading that
buoyant obsidian
yeah
56 pinged me earlier asking if he could change them
and that would really fit in Lightbringer
as would the ring of lances I suggested earlier for cyclone slash
amber plank
ive been throwing ideas for those today actually
but yea the stuff that fight as is insane
buoyant obsidian
nail arts are kinda underused even in base game though so I especially think they could benefit from being longer range, less movement restricting, higher damage, but in exchange take much longer to charge up.
amber plank
first time playing i wanted to use nail arts as my main form of attack but it was around the upper levels of grey prince zote and nightmare king grimm i had to switch to strength and quick slash combo
untill then everything was just doding and nail arts
dodging*
also i think thats nice
if it helps any id help test whatever you guys come up with
chilly tangle
doding
warped sinew
did you fix the hit box bug @copper nacelle
copper rover
Wow Knightmere that was impressive
amber plank
tis pretty good
shadow hatch
is there a list to what all the mods do in the mod installer
i know theres a mod summaries
but i dont see some mods
shadow hatch
in mod installer where are the readmefiles stored
rain cedar
waxen wyvern
ModInstaller still loads 0.0.1
sick hollow
Can anyone help me, I'm playing on mac, I have the mod installer installed and I can't use the controller with mod installer running, I have to u install mod installer to use the controller.
Can anyone help?
fierce prism
@worldly wren how tf would that even happen
solemn rivet
@sick hollow it's an issue with the API. 56 knows how to fix it and won't tell uss
worldly wren
I personally did broken vessel hitless
solemn rivet
I played LB very early on (before muzznik was even a thing) and I breezed through most bosses... Aside from Muzznik, has it gotten harder or easier you'd say, 753?
urban wind
just beat dung defender
going to get isma's tear and then go back up to jellyfish hell
urban wind
so who's going to mod silksong now
solemn rivet
vanishes in thin air
sick hollow
@solemn rivet Alright, no way to fix it then ? Thats so annoying. Is the same issue on windows as well ?
worldly wren
Yes I didn't defeat Empress Muzznik p1
buoyant obsidian
I tried to make Lightbringer harder
eventually I'd like to go back and make it even harder by adding darkness mechanic back
but that broke dark rooms
young walrus
Yeah, it wasn't too hard. was a good diversion though
buoyant obsidian
for less confident players Lightbringer is actually harder than base game
because confident players take advantage of the fact they can hit so fast without getting hurt
but overall damage is lowered
also 56 made it so bosses get stunned less I think which helped a lot
weak lodge
I can give Draco levels amount of ideas if you want
worldly wren
Oh and also uuh I left zote to die
sick hollow
@solemn rivet beta options where? Inside the game settings or Steam?
solemn rivet
game options
young walrus
isnt that a controller specific issue too?
sick hollow
Where is the option for beta support inside game?
solemn rivet
kinda, mick
I think it's like that for some generic controllers
brawlzapper: just pause the game
young walrus
There was another solution, but I can't remember what it was
young walrus
options -> game options -> controller input beta
sick hollow
Oh I turned that on, doesn't work
young walrus
so turn it off
young walrus
yeah, there was a specific fix for this
we need to pin it
cuz I keep forgetting it
solemn rivet
does steam controller settings work on non-windows OS?
sick hollow
I don't know, I can try, how to enable that?
solar jacinth
btw gradow that blackmoth mod was awsome 👌 also why you didnt used games original sprites of down dash ?
solemn rivet
because since there is no updash sprite, having only downdash looked weird
so I removed it
solar jacinth
that makes sense
nbut
why you didnt made down dash reversed *
?
on photoshop
solemn rivet
it'd look weird
copper nacelle
solemn rivet
and at the time there was no easy way to add sprites
solar jacinth
i see
solemn rivet
56 exist
copper nacelle
unity is made in c++
solemn rivet
unity is c++
solemn rivet
I'm busy
solar jacinth
as far as i know you can only use c# cause it was at unitiy^s website
solemn rivet
playing berseria
copper nacelle
monkaHmm
dusky lion
56
Mod subnautica
Join nes so occasionally when I go on the nexus I say “wow that name sounds familiar”
cerulean dome
Waiting for haunswitch and silksong is like waiting for a birthday
it succs
hauntswitch*
grave nimbus
Pretty sure that’s not coming for a while... there’s still three acts of the prequel left.
urban wind
whats hauntswitch
grave nimbus
Sequel to Hiveswap.
amber plank
question about redwing mod when you take damage it in turn damages enemys but what im wondering is the green particle effect it gives to them what does this do?
copper nacelle
@compact sedge any
onyx osprey
https://imgur.com/WnimM2r
CONTROLLERS WORK YAY
solemn rivet
wut u do
copper nacelle
Nice
ornate rivet
wait I thought 56 was making this
copper nacelle
It's open-source
ornate rivet
ah ok
amber plank
is that a coop mod?
copper nacelle
Yeah
amber plank
thats interesting
ornate rivet
time to make it online multiplayer
amber plank
umm
onyx osprey
lol nope, no online for at least months.
amber plank
i think sticking to local is good for now
ornate rivet
wtf you're actually planning on doing it?
copper nacelle
Did you use InControl or Unity's Input?
amber plank
perfect that first lol
onyx osprey
cuz Unity's code has been driving me nuts for awhile
I may do online wayy later
I used InControl
copper nacelle
Nice
solemn rivet
incontrol is good
onyx osprey
I was wrecking my brain over how to make the player ignore another controller, and I finally figured it out. It was so simple: I just added the device to an "ExcludedDevices" list that was built into InputHandler.
And then the other player just uses said excluded device for movement
It's perfect
dusky lion
or just not do online
and put a readme in the folder of the mod that says Multiplayer.txt
and inside it is a link to the website for parsec
copper nacelle
any pr
onyx osprey
What's parsec?
onyx osprey
Oh I think I've seen that.
copper nacelle
I've seen it a few times when a few people were running a co-op gaming