archived-modding-development

[weak lodge]

team cherry hinting that the plot of hornet dlc will be a reference to shrek ever after?

why did you lose it

literally you had it yesterday

@mortal trout

[ornate rivet]

his speedrun was proven to be fake

[mortal trout]

going inactive for a long time, rejoined this server for hornet dlc updates

[ornate rivet]

just like hornet dlc's existence

you were online yesterday before hornet dlc updates

[ornate rivet]

wtf

Edgy changed into AFK

Graig tell Team Cherry they might need to clarify the fact that the hornet dlc will not be releasing on Valentine's day for the illiterate with another tweet https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/02/11/hollow-knight-dlc-puts-hornet-in-the-spotlight-this-valentines-day/#/slide/1

[compact sedge]

nah this is just shit reporting

"Based on the tweet, we know Hornet will take the spotlight and we can expect the DLC to drop on February 14, 2019"

[fair rampart]

this is not the only instance of it

game """"""""""journalism""""""""""

[compact sedge]

tbf with a website like playstation lifestyle I'm not exactly expecting high quality reporting

[ornate rivet]

there are quite a few people on twitter and reddit that think it will be releasing on valentine's day

[urban olive]

Yikes

[ornate rivet]

inb4 tc actually does release hornet dlc on valentine's day

they reveal that all this time, they've been using 0.1% of their power to make the content packs

[warped sinew]

F A K E N E W S

[compact sedge]

they are secretly working on Hollow Knight 2 which comes out on the 15th

[fair rampart]

hollow knight 0

[compact sedge]

Super Hollow Knight

and it requires a physical SNES to play

petition to rename #archived-modding-development #rom-hacking

[ornate rivet]

https://www.quora.com/Does-having-a-high-IQ-have-any-downsides

[fair rampart]

r/iamverysmart

tbh

[warped sinew]

so im getting DM's from people letting me know that my name sounds bad and i should change it to pale prince

becuase they think that i dont understand

[fair rampart]

DM's from who

[warped sinew]

just randoms

[fair rampart]

oh lol

I though it was like, moderators and tc

[warped sinew]

no just concerned community members hahah

who think that i don't see the double entendre or something. Whoosh material

I spent 5 whole minutes coming up with this joke name and like hell i will change it within 24 hours!

[fair rampart]

Graig,
I am incredibly disappointed that, as a representative of Team Cherry, you are setting an inappropriate image for the developers by choosing a username that may be offensive and toxic to some of the users on this server.

I would highly recommend changing it back to your real name, Graig. This is for your own good.

Thank you.

[solemn rivet]

say that you understand and you'll change your name

[warped sinew]

I don't understand why you would be upset, I am simply supporting the community as I am helping advertise a mod from a member. Sincerely Graig.

[solemn rivet]

and change it to "I choked on 56's radiant PP"

[warped sinew]

nothing crude here

hahah well its not wrong

i choked hard on it 😉

[solemn rivet]

[stable stump]

What a wholesome community

[fair rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516675581622878209/544537997048021037/unknown.png

[weak lodge]

?

[solemn rivet]

same

[weak lodge]

im waiting for the "final" build before i attempt radiant nail only

[cunning lagoon]

i wonder what 56 thinks of all these jokes about his hard pp

[weak lodge]

56 final attack out yet

[warped sinew]

i think he is going to patch the dash bug

[fair rampart]

which one

[weak lodge]

yes i wonder, he can't possibly be annoyed by them

[fair rampart]

I thought it was patched?

[warped sinew]

that will make the fight much easier cos right now its pretty RNG at that point

oh well maybe it is

[fair rampart]

He wanted to put in a fake slash as well

[weak lodge]

bS aNd RnG

i didn't think it was rng

[solemn rivet]

what about Artorias smash

[weak lodge]

artorias ssmash

raiden smash

knight smash

ree

abyss watchers cool though

[warped sinew]

well he either does a black dash and stops, a black dash directly into another attack, a black dash into tele into another black dash, a black dash into tele into the white dash (this is correct), or a black dash into a tele into a black dash into a tele into a white dash

they all have the exact same start up and you have no way to know whats going to happen

the triple dash is the hardest to dodge. unless you just use cheating dive that is heh

[fair rampart]

triPPle

[warped sinew]

ooops

[weak lodge]

oh is that on a newer build? i probably didn't isntall that

[solemn rivet]

Knightmere

[warped sinew]

56 said its just supposed to be black dash into white every time

[fair rampart]

hmm

[weak lodge]

i see a man who likes dark souls and sotn

i friend

[warped sinew]

this is the double black dash

[fair rampart]

That rng might be a consequence of his quick fix for the fakeout dash bug he was encountering

sotn?

[solemn rivet]

symphony of the night

[fair rampart]

ah

[weak lodge]

gradow, explain

[solemn rivet]

I only just got a pc able to run it m8

like, last december

[weak lodge]

ic

[solemn rivet]

and I'm too busy playing weeb games

[weak lodge]

not even vordt smh imagine actually having a life

[solemn rivet]

as you can see

[weak lodge]

nvm

[solemn rivet]

I mean

DS3 is good

but I'd rather play something different

like nier automata or tales of

oof

not even time to react

[weak lodge]

was meme

dw

[solemn rivet]

but yeah

I played way too much DS2 when it first came out

[weak lodge]

well whenever you feel like playing ds3 i can coop with you if you like

[solemn rivet]

and don't get me wrong, I love ds

but I also like other genres s'all

ty!

[weak lodge]

its fine, i'd rather play hk over Ds in the same rules

though i got kinda burnt out after 520

so ds is all im playing rn

[solemn rivet]

tbh I much prefer metroidvanias to DS-like games

[weak lodge]

this

[solemn rivet]

so I can't wait for Bloodstained to finally come out

[weak lodge]

ah yes

[solemn rivet]

that backers demo is SO GOOD

[weak lodge]

[solemn rivet]

did you play timespinner?

[weak lodge]

i did not, i watched people play it though, including you

[solemn rivet]

nice

[weak lodge]

combat wasn't fast paced enough for me but it's a nice game

[solemn rivet]

too bad it's so short

yeah, I kinda like it

reminds me of sotn and aos

[weak lodge]

ahem

the UI

[solemn rivet]

👀

[weak lodge]

looks almost identical to a castlevania game, i forgot which one

but yea i play hk and Ds now for the DiFfiCuLtY

i can't really play casual games without getting bored

[solemn rivet]

wait

you don't have s&s

wtf

[weak lodge]

salt and sanctuary

[solemn rivet]

ye

[weak lodge]

yes it's on my wishlist

but sekiro first

[solemn rivet]

I'll gift you a copy if I get some spare change

[weak lodge]

sekiro is

you don't have to

[solemn rivet]

sekiro is looking good ngl

I do

[fair rampart]

just gonna hop in quickly and say I didn't like S&S that much okay bye

[solemn rivet]

you have to play it

reee

such a good game

art sucks ass

but who cares about art?

[weak lodge]

i thought the asthetic was nice

[solemn rivet]

I don't much like it

everyone looks like a dead frog to me

[weak lodge]

ever heard of the messenger?

[solemn rivet]

yup

I'll grab it if it's on a nice price

looks interesting, but not enough for me to pay full price

[weak lodge]

i'd buy it during a sale

if everything else on my wishlist was ruled out

next thing im buying for sure is mgrr though

just for the memes

[solemn rivet]

play eroico

[weak lodge]

[solemn rivet]

well, off to bed I go

[weak lodge]

reminder this is above S&S

[solemn rivet]

[weak lodge]

ah

bai gradow

[solemn rivet]

bai

[weak lodge]

i should complete my assignment due tomorrow yes

[urban olive]

How likely is it that the Hornet DLC will break the current mods?

[uneven willow]

question about randomizer: what do the restrictions mean (Bosses/Skills/Charms)?

^item randomizer by Seanpr & Firzen

[silk jetty]

that means you need to do all of whatever the restriction is called @uneven willow

[hollow hearth]

i need to beat 56's pp before hornet dlc is released so there is no chance it breaks

well, thankfully, thats going to take a while

[cunning lagoon]

yeah 56's pp is very hard

[uneven willow]

@silk jetty thanks

[warped sinew]

I'll stream icono in a few hours just for u kuro

[cunning lagoon]

I just got in bed

[rain cedar]

No please

I'm in bed too

[copper nacelle]

lmao

[civic hare]

I’m not in bed but I don’t wanna watch icono

[warped sinew]

Oh well I'll do it another time, I'll just play shit hollow knight instead

[cunning lagoon]

[rain cedar]

[weary oyster]

uh what exactly is shit hollow knight

[copper nacelle]

p5 but the only boss is dung defender

[tribal mason]

That sounds amazing

[copper nacelle]

x

[warped sinew]

Is sanic.DLL still around??

I want to try out fast abrad

[iron crown]

beat 56's pp but faster

[fair rampart]

idk if you need this too

@warped sinew

[copper nacelle]

1.75x absrad is death

I tried it earlier

Kuro did 1.5x hitless I think

[warped sinew]

i was thinking of doing panth 5 1.5x

[copper nacelle]

sounds fun

[warped sinew]

but right now i might just play some hardmode grimm

its been a while

[fair rampart]

i'm struggling on 1.25x PP and yall doin 1.5x shit 🤔

[copper nacelle]

1.5 I sleep

1.75 I awake

[fair rampart]

soon enough there's gonna be enough boss mods to make a pantheon out of

I think a prince zote & eternal ordeal mashup would be p cool 🤔

[solemn rivet]

when is pi/2 pp gonna become a thing

smh

[warped sinew]

well its not 14000 but its not bad considering how out of practice at NKG I am

@compact sedge

[compact sedge]

woah

[fair rampart]

is this god?

[compact sedge]

I dunno how people ever got this good at this boss

I could never get past 8k on hard

and at that point it gets really hard really fast

[fair rampart]

I like how on hard mode, Graig gets 14k and he's like "meh"

[warped sinew]

i got 11k the 14k reference is because thats kurosh's first place score

[hollow hearth]

smh graig share some power

[warped sinew]

honestly 14k is insane. I could probably manage 12.5k but yeah its get retardedly fast

anything above 12k is an insane score

[hollow hearth]

oh, you have 14k geo, thats a thing i missed

[compact sedge]

I wonder if it's possible for humans to get much past 14k

DAE remember the neural net guy?

it'd be cool to see a bot doing it

[fierce prism]

oof, finally got for the first time to 56's PP 2nd phase

[copper nacelle]

fakeout Pog

[manic summit]

has anyone made a coop mod for hk before?

[buoyant obsidian]

yep

[young walrus]

Like for chickens?

[manic summit]

no i mean so i can play with my friend

at the same time

[young walrus]

You wanna play with your friend in a coop? Kinky

[iron crown]

(hard)

[silk jetty]

wow, one of my friends killed ancient dragon without plunging attacking it on their first playthrough @copper nacelle

[sudden kettle]

can anyone point me to the path of pain mod?

[young walrus]

;mods

um....

zote?

;i

[ornate rivet]

;i

oh oh

;help

is zote dying

[young walrus]

https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe

[compact sedge]

wait zote still reacted

huh

[iron crown]

Zote's doing a big think right now

Why did it take so long to do ❌ and why did it do ❌ when it delivered the message anyway

[ornate rivet]

is discord being slow for other people?

[iron crown]

Yes it's being slow for Zote

[compact sedge]

thank you zote very cool

oh their api went to shit

I bet that screwed up my bot too

I like how the chart allows for negative values

like just in case you get -250 ping

[copper nacelle]

@silk jetty

[silk jetty]

[cunning lagoon]

[supple holly]

i know we barely have any info on Hornet DLC as of yet but do you guys think it would be possible to create a mod that would swap The Knight for Hornet in the normal playthrough?

[compact sedge]

not with any gameplay changes

[supple holly]

huh

[copper nacelle]

you could but no one will

[cunning lagoon]

shut upo 576

back to shard

[buoyant obsidian]

someone probably will

[young walrus]

customknight already basically does that

unless you mean her abilities too

[ornate rivet]

see ya all February 14th

[cunning lagoon]

bye

[compact sedge]

wait

how @ornate rivet

[warped sinew]

@copper nacelle did you fix pp dash bug?

[copper nacelle]

Not yet

I can fix it later today

[weak lodge]

Did you commit adding the finisher attack or is that scrapped

[copper nacelle]

latter

[weak lodge]

Kk

[copper nacelle]

@warped sinew Fixed and it and finished up the statue

Should be updated in 5 min

He can still do multiple tele dashes in a row

I fixed the wall thing though

[fair rampart]

I've forgotten my strats for PV after spending so long on PP

[cunning lagoon]

graig are we getting an icono stream today

[humble lance]

Does anyone have the link to the bonfire mod?

[warped sinew]

Awesome

I'll try it out later tonight

I will stream icono tomorrow during the day.

[trim totem]

nice pfp graig

[warped sinew]

Let's say like about 18 hours from now

[cunning lagoon]

Pog

[warped sinew]

Hopefully u and sean can watch at that time

[brazen mortar]

Did you draw that yourself Graig?

[warped sinew]

Nah I stole it from a Facebook group

[brazen mortar]

Dammit Graig

Here I thought ari wasn’t the only one on TC with artistic talent

[warped sinew]

William is actually also an animator too

He did all of booty grotto if you want to see his style

My style would be too wild for TC, they couldn't handle even 2% of my power

[brazen mortar]

I was totally ready to have all of hornet dlc to have been drawn by Graig

[vernal shadow]

is there an enemy randomizer mod on hollow knight 1.4.3.2?

;-;

[brazen mortar]

Uhm

I’m no modder and have no clue

But I think

[fair rampart]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[young walrus]

it's broken

[brazen mortar]

Oh well

[vernal shadow]

thx

how to use it?

[flat forum]

hey

what's the object for the background audience in Godhome called?

[flat forum]

@copper nacelle

[solemn rivet]

@vernal shadow just download the installer and run it

[vernal shadow]

Thx

[compact sedge]

welp

[fair rampart]

when was this

[compact sedge]

today

but

the last messages in it were

oct 12 2018

[fair rampart]

[flat forum]

@copper nacelle

[cunning lagoon]

@copper nacelle

[brazen mortar]

@copper nacelle ask me out

[fierce prism]

@copper nacelle idk if you know about that, but PP statue in HoG is malfunctoning
after you fight him it still reads his name and shows dream particles, but you fight PV instead, after this fight statue changes to PV

[hollow chasm]

yo, what does infinite grimm do?

[cunning lagoon]

it lets you fight nkg forever

he gets faster as you deal damage

[hollow chasm]

sounds amazing

[fair rampart]

Kurosh, how do you feel getting your record beaten by 1 point?

[cunning lagoon]

wdym

im the one who beat myself by one point

[fair rampart]

Graig beat you

[cunning lagoon]

no lol

[hollow chasm]

inb4 he is graig

[fair rampart]

like yesterday

[cunning lagoon]

he got 11.7k on hard

that's lower than both my hard score and my radiant timed score

[fair rampart]

I recall him getting 14k + 1

[cunning lagoon]

this is not to say he can't beat me if he tries

he most certainly can

but he hasn't done it yet

[fair rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/544877473620295680/unknown.png

[cunning lagoon]

yes that's 11.7k in hard

my hard pb is 14.3k

[fair rampart]

oh wait

[cunning lagoon]

and my radiant timed pb is 13069

[fair rampart]

I saw geo

fuck

I am le dumbass

[fair rampart]

forgive me spanish sempai

[cunning lagoon]

but funnily enough a similar thing happened last time i grinded radiant timed

i got 13068

then 13069

[fair rampart]

the question is, can you do infinite NGG

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

my infinite ngg score is a high 4.1k iirc

regular ngg has 3.2k health

[fair rampart]

NGG has more hp than PP?

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[flat forum]

PP not stronk enough

[fair rampart]

PP pounds you so hard

[cunning lagoon]

i love it when 56's pp pounds me

[fair rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516675581622878209/544537997048021037/unknown.png

[fierce prism]

I love it when 56's PP void little thingies penetrate me to death

[flat forum]

I'm gonna learn to and then I'm gonna beat 56's PP so hard

[mortal trout]

same

[fierce prism]

same

[fair rampart]

Edgy is white boi now

sad

[fierce prism]

I hope to at least maybe get him to 1/3 hp tomorrow

bcoz up to now the farthest I got was to bring him to about 1/2 of his hp, then got penetrated again by his void projectiles and thus died

[fair rampart]

👀

[cunning lagoon]

👀

[hollow chasm]

ay, 2673 damage dealt

that's not bad

[cunning lagoon]

[hollow chasm]

I'm certainly not you, but I'm proud of it

[fierce prism]

btw tomorrow gotta finally try out infinite grimm

[copper nacelle]

@flat forum @cunning lagoon @brazen mortar u

[cunning lagoon]

@dull cipher no u

o

[copper nacelle]

not sure about that one

[dull cipher]

Lmao

[cunning lagoon]

graig are we gettin a stream

[weak lodge]

holy shit graig that pfp is amazing

[warped sinew]

lol that 14k geo keeps throwing people off

and yes i will stream as soon as my visitors leave

[cunning lagoon]

[warped sinew]

thanks knightmere I stole it from a facebook meme page heheheh

what are they gonna do, DMCA me?????

[compact sedge]

I'm gonna set my geo to 15k so when I die people think I got a WR

[cunning lagoon]

my infinite grimm save has 600k geo so i think i still have wr

[fair rampart]

Sly be like

🤑

[weak lodge]

sly has the wr for geo though

[warped sinew]

its true

[weak lodge]

@copper nacelle dream symbol is not glowing help

also the particles are offset

[fair rampart]

shouldn't the dream catcher by glowing?

[hazy sentinel]

it's part of the lore because the hollow knight has no dreams

[weak lodge]

yes

[fair rampart]

then make it a lever

[weak lodge]

actually wrong like a boss he did but who cares about lore

[hazy sentinel]

the hollow knight also hates mechanical engineering

[weak lodge]

real lore

[fair rampart]

so it hates the kingsmoulds and wingsmoulds?

[weak lodge]

yes that's why the king locked him in an egg smh

i hate the fact that pv stands around like an idiot after every attack

another bug, after i die the statue resets to pv

[hollow chasm]

how I wish it were 5:30 PM

[solemn rivet]

only 17h to go

[copper nacelle]

how i wish it were 2002

[mortal trout]

same

[hollow chasm]

more like 7 hours to go until 5:30 PM

[mortal trout]

u mean 3:30 am

[copper nacelle]

u mean 4:30 am

[compact sedge]

if it were 2002 you'd only have to wait 17 years for the hornet dlc announcement

[fair rampart]

lucky

[floral zealot]

will we be able to do custom hornet? :))))))

[compact sedge]

not right away

give 56 time to port the modding api

[copper nacelle]

if it was 2002 I would not be alive

[solemn rivet]

omg

stop 56

I'm feeling old

[compact sedge]

you won't be alive in 2202 either

[copper nacelle]

urite

[compact sedge]

what if hornet dlc is like, totally new exe with completely different assembly which is why they hired the new coder

[fair rampart]

i wish the cat in the hat was here to baseball bat it up in here so i could be unconscious until the trailer comes out

[brazen mortar]

when were hive knight's phases added?

[brazen mortar]

just went back on an old video and hive knight for sure did not have phases on release

[fair rampart]

wait they have phases

did someone add a phase where hive knight fucking has a bee death laser and secretly put it into mola's save file

yes it has phases @fair rampart

i dunno if initial one had phases

when you say old, you mean lifeblood beta?

woah it does

[copper nacelle]

no he totally means tgt

[copper nacelle]

@fierce prism @weak lodge i can fix that tomorrow maybe i don't have time today

[cunning lagoon]

graig have we been abandoned

[flat forum]

@copper nacelle come here

remember you had a thing with loading every room in the game?

[copper nacelle]

u

that is a modcommon thing

or do you mean the all glitches preloader via pointers

[hollow pier]

graig stream

[copper nacelle]

@flat forum is this what you mean

[flat forum]

н

I dozed off again

room load dump things?

[copper nacelle]

those are enemy rando's

[flat forum]

I dunno where they were from but you had a large .zip file thing with all rooms

[copper nacelle]

that is in the gdrive

under enemy rando

i assume you want this though

[flat forum]

I just want a load dump of any of the Godhome arenas

to check what some of the new elements are called

[trim totem]

56 are you going to sleep now?

[copper nacelle]

no

[flat forum]

56 sleep

[trim totem]

very good

[cunning lagoon]

graig we need content

[trim totem]

i will give you content

[cunning lagoon]

is it icono

[trim totem]

you will see

[hollow pier]

graig

stream

[rain cedar]

He'll stream in 18 hours don't worry

[flat forum]

@copper nacelle

[copper nacelle]

u

[flat forum]

so

weird thing that happens with Pale Prince

if you die to Pure Vessel it auto-switches to Pale Prince

[cunning lagoon]

nice mod moron

[flat forum]

still gives the Pure Vessel text and stuff but it's Pale Prince

[copper nacelle]

i know

[flat forum]

fïx it then

[flat forum]

what time is it

[copper nacelle]

not tomorrow enough

[flat forum]

[warped sinew]

hi i couldn't stream today i had to do a bunch of things around the house on my one day off 😦

[cunning lagoon]

[warped sinew]

i will wake up early tomorrow just for you and stream icono before i have to go out at 2pm

[cunning lagoon]

how many hours from now would that be

[warped sinew]

lol well, about 15-16

[cunning lagoon]

nice nice

i will patiently wait

[warped sinew]

i just set my alarm to wake me up

[cunning lagoon]

[warped sinew]

alarm set for 15 hours and 30 mins from now

[near wasp]

aussie time zone master race 😎

[warped sinew]

are you an aussie? I thought only the admins and I were around here haha

never find another one

[cunning lagoon]

i thought mola was australian

[warped sinew]

its sad because i would like to meet up with discord bros at events

[near wasp]

yeah hollow knight is a matter of national pride for me dude

[warped sinew]

but lol no one is in aus

[near wasp]

perthbro here

[warped sinew]

come to PAX this year

[near wasp]

I can't this year unfortunately
doing ATAR

[warped sinew]

i saw a girl wearing a HK t-shirt and I was excited and asked her if she liked the game

she said her BF played it and she just liked the art

😦

[near wasp]

daww

[cunning lagoon]

hookup with her bf

[warped sinew]

i wanted to talk about the game ffs

lol

[near wasp]

yeah what DL said lol

i get that too
almost nobody i talk to has heard of the game, it sucks

[warped sinew]

i'll do radiant abrad for him and he will fall in love with me

[near wasp]

lol

[civic hare]

guys they’re doing a team cherry direct soon

I hope there isn’t too much fire emblem

[ornate rivet]

sigh

[copper nacelle]

he's back Pog

[ornate rivet]

discord is disabled so I have to use freaking mobile to see the teaser

[copper nacelle]

https://youtu.be/pFAknD_9U7c

@ornate rivet

[ornate rivet]

this is actually good

I wasn't expecting so much new stuff

[copper nacelle]

yes

it's so cool

[civic hare]

is this cherry madness

[cunning lagoon]

yes ari ditched wilbo for draco

[civic hare]

interesting that they're calling it a sequel, not an expansion

[cunning lagoon]

it seems to be an actual game

and not an expansion

[copper nacelle]

^

[civic hare]

damn

this is fuckin sick

[flat forum]

HK: Silksong mods when

where are the mods

why haven't you made any mods yet

smh

stop being so lazy

[ornate rivet]

they say it's an actual game instead of a dlc

in the second video

[warped sinew]

Its a new game

[flat forum]

also also

[ember bloom]

So character flags in files are useless, shame.

[flat forum]

can't wait to see a mod that puts the new game's Hornet into the old HK

[copper nacelle]

BackDash actually implemented this time Pog https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441521707967184896/545544875920326656/unknown.png

[cunning lagoon]

oh i thought that was just spider hornet

[civic hare]

man, i figured team cherry'd make hornet dlc more elaborate than expected by adding multiple new areas or something, but then they still exceeded my expectations by making a wholeass new game

[ornate rivet]

the mechanics look awesome too

[warped sinew]

Yeah its really flowy

[ornate rivet]

graig how long have you known about this

[copper nacelle]

Have you playtested it 👀

[warped sinew]

A while

Lol

[ornate rivet]

the only thing that looks weird was the wall jump at the start of the trailer

[warped sinew]

I'm sure it will be good ;)

[ornate rivet]

me too

[cunning lagoon]

hi sure it will be good ;)

[weak lodge]

Symphony of the hornet yes

[ornate rivet]

better than hk and I haven't even played it

hornet makes you feel like spiderman

[copper nacelle]

man has not finished his homework at 5:24 am

[weak lodge]

Hornet makes you feel like you have someone who cares about you

Wtf

[ornate rivet]

same 56

[weak lodge]

Wtf

[copper nacelle]

I stayed up all night too

[weak lodge]

Sad

[copper nacelle]

Then this happened

Goodbye hour

[weak lodge]

Bye

Anyway actually bye

[flat forum]

56

wtf

[supple holly]

welp

no Hornet mod for Hollow Knight.

[solar jacinth]

this game doesnt needs any mods now

im kinda exploded with new trailer

[supple holly]

yeah i know it wasn't really anything serious, im still masturbating to this trailer

[ornate rivet]

56 will be forced to mod playable hornet into original game

[copper nacelle]

u

[solar jacinth]

well what makes me excited is the cut scene at the first part of the trailer

[hollow hearth]

hornet combat seems pretty good

[solar jacinth]

yes

i mean where are they going with hornet , most importantly , who are they ?

[hollow hearth]

ill reside here untill the shitstorm in #hk-discussion passes

[solar jacinth]

i bet its a new kingdom

[hollow hearth]

i mean they said it was

no eta tho, unfortunately

[rain cedar]

Early 2018

[hollow hearth]

no matter, i can wait

[cunning lagoon]

Should be coming out in a couple days

[hollow hearth]

you think so?

havent been following tc for very long so i dont know what their delay between trailers and releases are

[civic hare]

suspension railway is my favorite emotion

[cunning lagoon]

Yea

A week at most

[hollow hearth]

That would be pretty cool. I hope it's a standalone like subnautica below zero tbh

or subzero, i forgot the name

[copper nacelle]

Trailer literally says it's a separate game

🤔

also

[hollow hearth]

like you said before, its best to assume people are stupid

[copper nacelle]

Fair enough

[hollow hearth]

also i didnt have coffee

[fair rampart]

I'm gonna camp in here too if y'all don't mind

[hollow hearth]

was out of beans

[fair rampart]

Too many lurkers

[hollow hearth]

yeah #hk-discussion is a shitstorm

[copper nacelle]

pressing that link was a mistake ngl

[fair rampart]

I am almost shaking with excitement tho

[hollow hearth]

ill make friends here instead

[cunning lagoon]

Hi almost shaking with excitement tho

[fair rampart]

The reveal was better than I thought it could ever be

I will stab u

[hollow hearth]

i haven't waited for as long as some of you, so im probably less excited than i could be

that, and im tired as hell

[copper nacelle]

i haven't slept

[hollow hearth]

Well depending on the time, perhaps you should

[copper nacelle]

x

it is too late now

[cunning lagoon]

I have not slept yet either

[copper nacelle]

You're going to go to sleep though aren't you

[cunning lagoon]

Thats the plan

[copper nacelle]

sleep i sleep

school i awake

unfortunately

[cunning lagoon]

Dropping out real shit

[hollow hearth]

should i get cheap coffee to wake myself

[copper nacelle]

Yeah

[hollow hearth]

its disgusting tho

but i mean, it wakes me

[copper nacelle]

All milk coffee i awake

[hollow hearth]

#hk-discussion is a mistake

[hollow hearth]

yeah was about to post that

[hazy sentinel]

Me after seeing TC blog post : thank god it's a new game i hate this one already

[clever talon]

do you think when silksong comes out it'd be possible to make a mod that just takes hornet and puts her in the old game
and another one that puts the knight in the new one
with some adjustments probably so sections of the game aren't blocked off because of the lack of abilities
they seem super similar in design which is why it seems plausible

[mint vigil]

I could only get so hyped

[hollow pier]

wow i am so excited to experience regular input drops with a different character

[near wasp]

not sure brobdingnagian
it would be extremely possible if this were a DLC, that's literally the single downside I can think of for the new content being a new game rather than DLC

i'm trying to be as negative as possible here to keep myself in check

[clever talon]

it was originally going to be DLC and it seems to be built in the same engine and layout and everything though right?

[copper nacelle]

Same engine

[steep valve]

The existing API most likely won't be plug and play with new game. Will likely need to be adapted or possibly ||(probably)|| rebuilt. New classes and methods to hook into. New code to unravel and such.

[copper nacelle]

this

[fair rampart]

hopefully TC has matured and this game won't be as broken as release HK

[steep valve]

Same engine means less work. But not quite, "oh it's already done. Just gotta move some files around. "

[floral furnace]

steam workshop integration when

[solemn rivet]

also I don't see us taking stuff from silksong and putting it in the base game effortlessly

[covert arrow]

Hey quick question how do i switch pages in the moresaves mod

[young walrus]

]

[clever talon]

of course not effortlessly, i didn't expect it to be as easy as dragging and dropping. i was just wondering if it would be possible at all, i don't know too much about modding. i'm hyped for the new game either way

[young walrus]

but guis, other games are built in unity, why can't you just move all those things into HK?

[ornate rivet]

imagine DoH but with abilities from Silksong 😩😩😩

[floral furnace]

start porting it boi

[solemn basin]

Needs more backflips.

[hollow hearth]

add 56's PP to silksong

ill beat it

[compact sedge]

"High paced arial combat"
me, remembering the limitations of fsm and tk2d: https://tenor.com/H0E3.gif

also I like how it's called "Hollow Knight: Silksong" but the only time the hollow knight is actually gonna appear is at the very end when the real knight gets the godmaster ending

[floral furnace]

branding 😔

inb4 if they just called it silksong youre gonna get "wait what do you mean hollow knight had a sequel released 6 months ago"

too bad it wasnt called 2 Hollow 2 Knight

[charred parrot]

gotta stick to the brand man

[mossy pike]

2 Hollow 4 Knight

[charred parrot]

Hollow Knight But Without the Knight

[solemn basin]

But is it really hollow enough to contain that brand?

[weak lodge]

Who will be working on the silksong moddingAPI

Draco tbh

[mortal trout]

u

[fair rampart]

is it possible to pull the PlayMaker FSM files from hollow knight to see their original flowchart-style layout?
I've seen some of the playmaker-specific code in the Assembly-CSharp.dll using dnSpy , but it would be really cool to see the actual flowchart-style layouts they created which then got compiled

[ornate rivet]

yea use fsmreader

it's in the pins probably

by nes

@fair rampart

[river eagle]

Anyone here good at math? Any idea how to solve this? "There is a 5% chance of x happening and a 10% chance of y happening. There is also a 3% of x and y happening at the same time. What are the chances of x happening 5 times in a row without y, or x and y at the same time not happening?"

[cunning lagoon]

50%

it either happens or it doesn-t

[hollow pier]

he's not wrong

[river eagle]

[compact sedge]

wait wut, these numbers don't quite check out

so the chance of y happening if x doesn't happen is 10% but the chance of y happening if x does happen is 30%?

[river eagle]

Alright then I think I translated it wrong hold on I'll explain the problem exactly like how it's written then

[young walrus]

cheating on homework

[cunning lagoon]

just tell us ín finnish

[young walrus]

classic

[hollow pier]

incoming finnish gibberish

[river eagle]

"The traffic safety institute research found out that when police stopped someone, there was a 5% chance they were drunk and a 10% chance they weren't wearing a seatbelt. There was also a 3% they were drunk AND didn't wear a seatbelt. If 5 random people were to be stopped what are the chances of them all being drunk, but also all of them having their seatbelt on?"

great question I know

[young walrus]

lol

[compact sedge]

ok I see

so the 3% is the area of the overlapping section

[young walrus]

so... chance of both minus chance of drunk

[river eagle]

yeah that's the problem here

[young walrus]

the 10% is a red herring

[compact sedge]

but here's my issue

if it says if 5% chance they were drunk, does that mean that they were drunk but had their seatbelt?

or does that 5% include the 3%

so it's really only 2% they were drunk but had a seatbelt

[river eagle]

that 5% does include the 3% I believe

wait no

hmm

actually yeah

...

[compact sedge]

yeah see the ambiguity

[young walrus]

that's why you subtract

chance of them being both conditions

minus chance of just drunk

[compact sedge]

ask your teacher imo

[young walrus]

to get rid of that

[compact sedge]

unless it's an online thing

in which case have funnnnnnnn

fuck online homework

[river eagle]

well I know at least one thing. It's a multiple choice question with 4 possible answers, so my chances of guessing correctly are 25%

[compact sedge]

ok

so if 5% does include 3% then

[hollow pier]

pick the one that sounds like bullshit

[river eagle]

I can give the choices here hold on

[compact sedge]

5 random people being drunk but having their seatbelt on odds should be

0.02^5

[river eagle]

0,055·0,105
0,025
0,025·0,905
none of the above

are the choices

[compact sedge]

.0000000032 would be those odds

which I don't think is an option

[young walrus]

no. it'd be 0.05^5 - 0.03^5

[compact sedge]

yes

actually

[young walrus]

which is .0000002882

[compact sedge]

mickely knows stats

cuz I sure don't

[river eagle]

Yeah alright I read the question again and the 5% does include the 3%

the 10% also includes the 3% at the same time

so they all overlap

and it hurts my brains

[young walrus]

the 10% number is pointless

tells you no info that you care about

[river eagle]

But like I guess the 3% can also be ignored since it includes the people who weren't wearing a seatbelt

[young walrus]

is that 2882 one a choice?

[river eagle]

and that isn't a possibility here

[young walrus]

which is why that number is subtracted from the 5%

and not just 0.05^5

[mossy pike]

"Mickely - Today at 22:20
no. it'd be 0.05^5 - 0.03^5"
either there something i'm really not getting or that's a from me

[cunning lagoon]

muri please save us from this advanced math problem

we need your knowledge

[young walrus]

chance of 5 in a row drunk - chance of 5 in a row drunk and no seatbelt

[mossy pike]

[river eagle]

It was that they were all wearing a seatbelt

the drunk people

[mossy pike]

it's like drawing specific balls from a pool and putting them back in

[young walrus]

so you need to remove the chance that they're also wearing no seatbelt

[river eagle]

"The traffic safety institute research found out that when police stopped someone, there was a 5% chance they were drunk and a 10% chance they weren't wearing a seatbelt. There was also a 3% they were drunk AND didn't wear a seatbelt. If 5 random people were to be stopped what are the chances of them all being drunk, but also all of them having their seatbelt on?"

[young walrus]

so... chance of 5 random people being drunk is 0.05^5

ignoring all other things

[river eagle]

a.)0,055·0,105
b.)0,025
c.)0,025·0,905
d.)none of the above
are the choices if that's gonna help in any way

[young walrus]

and those are percents?

0.025%

[river eagle]

I believe 0,025 means here 2,5%

right I forgot americans use dots instead of commas to seperate decimals

[young walrus]

i understood what you're writing

conventions

but.... each specific instance of the check happening is 5%-3%

[mossy pike]

if you have a 2% chance of getting a special event, you have 2%^2 to have it twice in a row, don't you?

[young walrus]

unless.....

you read the question as....

stop 100 people

10 no seatbelt, 5 drunk, 3 both

in which case, this is very different

I hate poorly worded questions

[mossy pike]

i don't think that's what is intended here

[river eagle]

The fault might also be a bad translation on my part

[young walrus]

none of the answers make sense to me though

except d

[river eagle]

yeah but that would be too easy

[mossy pike]

lol yeah, it's probably d anyway

[young walrus]

like no matter which way you interpret the problem

[river eagle]

the "none of the above" from my experience is always put there just to bait people into guessing it

[young walrus]

either it's .0000000032

or .000002882

[river eagle]

it's that little?

[young walrus]

which are far smaller than .055x.105 and .025x.905

[young walrus]

unless the numbers above are percents

0.055% x 0.105%

which would give 4 more decimals

[mossy pike]

even when you flip a coin with a 50% probability, getting it 5 times in a row is a 3% probability, having the same outcome many times in a row gets the chances down pretty fast

[river eagle]

Like a wise man once said

there's always a fifty sixty chance

[young walrus]

wow muri, not even using the decimals

[river eagle]

@copper nacelle anyways, help

[young walrus]

it's more than 3%

[river eagle]

[young walrus]

3.125%

[river eagle]

If you answer incorrectly you lose points, so I think it's better if I just leave this one unanswered

[young walrus]

or answer d

[river eagle]

but if it's incorrect after all

[hollow pier]

leave everything unanswered

[mossy pike]

Haliitti is probably worried that he lost something in the translation and that we gave the right answer to the problem he asked but not to the original problem lol

[young walrus]

"Stupid question, I refuse to participate"

[river eagle]

The deadline for submitting answers runs out in about

20 mins

I can report back tomorrow what the correct answer was

[young walrus]

you wouldn't have to do any kind of (1-thing) for this, right?

[river eagle]

I really don't know

I feel like I got everything else correctly but this one question has haunted me for a couple of hours already

[young walrus]

which theorem have you learned recently?

Bayes'?

[river eagle]

I was actually just thinking about that

hold on

I'm just not sure what this is in english eee

[young walrus]

I'm not sure this applies here though

[river eagle]

yeah that's exactly what I was thinking about

by the way what is that in english

[young walrus]

if the problem you're working on says something like.... if the person pulled over is either drunk or not wearing belt, then there's a 3% chance that they are also doing the other thing wrong

THEN this would apply

I think....

like.... first check is for one condition, drunk or seatbelt

[river eagle]

The person pulled over is either drunk, not wearing a belt, or drunk and not wearing a belt at the same time

[young walrus]

if true, check for other condition

with 3% success

[river eagle]

But then there's the whole case of "five random people are pulled over who are all drunk and all have their seat belt on"

[mossy pike]

it's called conditional probabilities

[river eagle]

Huh it's quite rare that a finnish name for math related stuff is just a literal translation

good to know, thanks

[young walrus]

sounds like this

probability of union

[river eagle]

Hmm yeah that could be it. Though now I only have 10 minutes remaining, so I think I'll jus use the time to check the answers I've already given

just in case I did something stupid somewhere

[young walrus]

so.... 10%+5%-3%

to the fifth power

[solemn rivet]

So

[young walrus]

actually no

[solemn rivet]

Question

[young walrus]

this is wrong

[solemn rivet]

These problems tend to be finicky

[hollow pier]

mathdow

[solemn rivet]

Are you asking all 5 first if they are drunk and then if they don't have the seatbelts on, or are you asking both things at once?

This changes the solution slightly

[young walrus]

how the question is actually phrased is very important

[solemn rivet]

Because, for instance, if the probability of one of them being drunk is p and the probability of one of them having no seatbelts on is q, then

Then the probability of all 5 being drunk is p^5, and the probability of all 5 having no seatbelts after being already proven drunk is (q|p)^5

So the first scenario I proposed has as probability the product of these two numbers

[river eagle]

Right hey I'm back. Well the time just ran out but I can try to explain the question better now

if I can...

[solemn rivet]

But the second is just p^5 times q^5

So the order matters

[young walrus]

this is where the question is confusing

cuz that 3% seems.... wrong

unless it's all the same sample group

cuz if it's 10/100 seatbelt, and 5/100 drunk, but 3 of those overlap....

then that doesn't match the probability of 10% x 5%, which would be 0.5%

[buoyant obsidian]

what do you know about math Gradow

[river eagle]

actually let's see how google translate would say it

"5% of drivers were drunk and 10% did not have a seat belt in the weekly traffic control. 3% committed both offenses. If the police occasionally stops five drivers, what is the probability that all of them are drunk, but everyone has a seat belt?"
coming from google translate

[young walrus]

okay, so to me, that sounds like.... 5/100, 10/100, and 3/100

so the 3% aren't in the 5%

but that could also be.... 2/100 were drunk, but seatbelt

7% were no seatbelt, and sober

[river eagle]

Hmm, well I'll be going to sleep now since I need to be up in around 7 hours, I'll tell tomorrow what the answer was. Maybe then it would be easier to figure out what the question was trying to explain

I swear if it was the "none of the above"

[solemn rivet]

That 3% makes sense because 'being drunk' and 'having no seatbelts' are not independent

[young walrus]

so 2/100, 3/100, and 7/100 are the three groups

in which case, it'd be 2%^5

which I still don't see how that matches anything that was a, b, or c

[compact sedge]

who made spent geo tracker

[young walrus]

sean

[compact sedge]

neat

also I thought it was 2%^5 originally

but mickely told me it was 5%^5 - 3%^5

idk how probability works

help

[young walrus]

my first instinct was wrong

i did all of them together

instead of each instance first

if you do 2%^5

doesn't match up to any of them

[hollow pier]

not with that attitude

[young walrus]

or any attitude

[compact sedge]

wait how are any of those random weird looking numbers 3.2e-9

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/327461802311155714/545728438091251722/unknown.png

these I mean

what do these numbers mean

like what's the *0.105 and *0.905 with regards to there being 5 people

[young walrus]

0.02^5 is 3.2e-9

the other numbers are assuming those first 3 are in percent

which is the only way to even get them small enough to be close

0.055% x 0.105%

[compact sedge]

yeah but how on earth do you get a probability as high as 0.025, 0.055* 0.105, or 0.025*0.905

[young walrus]

i dunno

[compact sedge]

these all seem wayyyy too high

for 5 drunk drivers in a row

unless they're 5 drunk people in a single car

[young walrus]

lol

[compact sedge]

imagine a car with 5 steering wheels

or with the brake in one seat, pedal in another, clutch in a third, wheel in a forth, buttons like turn signal in the 5th

[cunning lagoon]

graig u alive

[fair rampart]

so graig, hows playtesting silksong?

I bet you have a blast

[cunning lagoon]

p good thanks

[warped sinew]

kuro

i will be streaming soon

gimmie like 30 mins

[hollow pier]

👀

[warped sinew]

im watching silksong reaction videos

[cunning lagoon]

👀

[warped sinew]

[fair rampart]

there are reaction vids of it?

[mighty knot]

Yeah I just watched them, there are 4 or so I think

[fair rampart]

jus looked

there are 4

1.8k view, 1.7k views, 8.5k views, and 225 views

[weary oyster]

reaction videos are actually an enigma to me

why do people like them so much

[fair rampart]

**FSM Viewer**

You can find the latest version of @dark wigeon's FSM viewer here
You can also dump FSMs by adding a ModCommon reference to your mod and doing

gameObject.PrintSceneHierarchyTree("filename")
```This will put a text dump of the GameObject and its FSMs in the Mods folder
You can also obtain .json(s) of FSMs by using the FSM dumper mod found [here](https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9cVhoMEdfV3I3YUk)

[weary oyster]

none of them are even entertaining its just some dude doing the most generic pretend overhype reactions every time

[hollow pier]

we get it you hate stuff

[cunning lagoon]

"of @dark wigeon's FSM viewer"

nice command nerd

[hollow pier]

also i don't get them either they're pretty stupid

[fair rampart]

why u do did internet

[warped sinew]

i dont normally care for reaction videos but in this case i am enjoying them a lot

having to keep this a secret for so long and knowing people will lose it

[fair rampart]

welp im gonna restart router

be back in like 10 min

[cunning lagoon]

hi gonna restart router

[warped sinew]

then actually seeing the moment is great

[floral furnace]

gregory release date when

[civic hare]

reaction videos are extremely dumb but i inexplicably watch them anyway

maybe it lets me vicariously experience other people's excitement that's long gone for me, for i am jaded and tired

[weary oyster]

the problem is that people know that the bigger the reaction the more views there are so theres no incentive not to do ridiculous fake reacts

[civic hare]

yeah that's a thing

[fair rampart]

I hate fake reactions

at least learn how to act if you're gonna do it

also when people post uncut reactions to some indie animation that took some poor soul ages to make

every African American reaction channel on youtube

just say black

not all are american

[civic hare]

if ur gonna be kinda racist at least be honest abt it

[fair rampart]

Yeah, the B L A C K S

[floral furnace]

remember the time where its still from reaction girls and its them "reacting" to a video but the camera is only focused on their cleavages

[fair rampart]

what's worse than an uncut reaction? a COMPLETELY UNEDITED reaction!

put the vid in the corner and literally nothing else

I hate that

Excuse me, are you saying you don't want to watch 20 minutes of them breathing heavily at parts of the video that aren't interesting?

and then there's the people that actually do cut stuff out, but cut out too much

at least they try I gues

I prefer more honest reactions if I can find them

[dusky lion]

ive come to make an announcement

[floral furnace]

steamforums.avi

[fair rampart]

lost cookware

fire some pots boi

[rain cedar]

Ok but to be fair one of his complaints is empty jumps

That's a valid complaint

[dusky lion]

[cunning lagoon]

mysoncursor

[dusky lion]

incredible

[fair rampart]

you think silksong will have empty hops?

[dusky lion]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[mortal trout]

yea

[dusky lion]

unless we've complained in graig's presence enough for them to complain in team cherry's presence

[cunning lagoon]

whitedgy

[mortal trout]

i cant believe edgy is"whit"

[fair rampart]

edgy cracker

[dusky lion]

edgy whit ???

[cunning lagoon]

i cant believe dgy is white

[mortal trout]

same

[dusky lion]

i cant believe that i still dont have access to sr_offtopic

[fair rampart]

you mean modding isn't sr offtopic?

[dusky lion]

i cant believe i dont have access to modding but slightly more active

[mortal trout]

with like 10 different people from here

[fair rampart]

pete, are you ever gonna change your nickname?

[dusky lion]

no

[mortal trout]

no

[hollow pier]

when someone figures it out yeah probably

[floral furnace]

why the fuck are you not blue

[weary oyster]

imagine actually keeping your roles by not leaving the server every 10 seconds

[dusky lion]

[cunning lagoon]

absolutelynot56_irl