#archived-modding-development
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i can't remember exactly when he beat the version i gave
idk how much was missing
ok it was missing the spike falling, double dash, and focus buffs
pp is easier than pv
pp is easier than thk
pp easier than pp
pp is too soft
that version was a decent amount easier
fair
no khan you are just very good
^
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no khan you are just very good
^
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no khan you are just a god i respect you so much great work keep it up
thanks for testing 56's pp khan
is his pp very hard?
Probably best to not say that aloud. 
ok good
You should try it. It is fun, challenging, and you won't regret any of your life choices leading to that moment.
hmm
why did you name this pp 56
Age of consent
i have made a mistake
indeed
i have mistake
what have you done
naming the mod pp
Itโs not a mistake
Now I can say I like 56โs pp Unironically and not break any rules uwu
still not legal
56 help tele dash is gay
thou
why doesn't amazon offer $10 steam gift cards
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they do
But it takes $20 to find one.
no
wtf
I've used :sunglasses: like two times but it's at the top of the list
time to reset my cookies I guess
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Nope. Plus friends coming over to watch a movie. Then Pale Prince.
ech
Many delays.
hey i have 2
I don't think I have voluntarily gone to the house of someone else in 7 months
Other than D&D I'll usually visit with friends maybe each month, perhaps every other month. Games and movies. Folks may be busy, but good to make time for just visiting.
i only have mates over for like birthdays or during a break etc
Besides, there's a lot of good movies folks haven't seen and we generally find something fun.
The only friends I need is the artificial intelligence that speaks to me over the internet ๐
But what if you were that AI and what is speaking now is just another facet of the program?
Also, add time travel for freaky fun.
shut up soyboy
cursed
Hey the green version is people.
What is going on in that image
sssshh

3rd phase basically
Clearly Pale Prince wants to play Connect Four.
battleship tbh
Horizontal connect four is cheating
Well what are you going to do about him cheating?
Dislike his Instagram posts
He'll never recover from that.
The slow steady march of progress.
steady body
I never really got the hang of that charm.
It seems good for PP but I keep walking into pillars.
seems like you're doing something consistently wrong then
oh mola, you should change the HUD soul vessel sprite to match the full vessel, imo
they're on the other sheet
Which sheet?
Oh
I havenโt touched Grimm knight in awhile
i think it's that one in the middle there
Yeah
That ones already been changed
I originally made the edit on the hud sheet only
can you link the sheet mola?
And then after saleh said it used something else I just copied it over
oh, right
hmm. wtf does it use
well nvm
yeah some people dont like the red
thought it was that one
So I was able to get mods installed on Linux with Mono, but as soon as I install any mods, my controller stops working.
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Issue one is using a controller instead of keyboard
this is true
yes
no it's a bug
me neither, i throw inputs pretty fast though, imagine having a mechanical button'ed controller]
@compact sedge nevermind people are competent for once and I don't want to delete this bc ghost ping sorry
I have a IBM model M keyboard.
i know we've gone over the fix for this before, but i keep forgetting what it is
Ghosting is an issue sometimes, but yeah...
the fix is recompiling the api on linux
Ha, were you expecting to have to walk me through it? ๐
yes
Haha... I'm a sysadmin by day.
half the linux users i see are capable human beings
the other half have ubuntu installed on their computer by someone else
lmao
not using suicidal linux
kali linux
what is apt
aptitude
oh
package manager for debian style linux distros
i mean what
HA
you never played with gentoo, i take it
my record for fastest gnome install was 13 hours.
doesn't hurt you have to compile everything from source
56 destroyed with facts and logic
Wtf
xbuild
oh yeah
you guys are speaking in tongues
you don't speak with your tongue?
no mick we are using our fingers to press the keys
please stop using your tongue to strike keys
No
don't judge how i type
DebugLinux is for building linux on windows
ooooh, makes sense
fuck
oh i should fix that
knightmere what are you supposed to do to dodge that?
its so very hard to tell
thats a tall shorthop
it really is
i get anxious looking at it
osnap, it is msbuild. I guess xbuild got deprecated
here we are again, don't panic this time
he dies
Xbuild is old but it still should work I think
oh
hold on a bit
let me get pixel knight up and running
alright
you can watch now
yay!
click on my name and click "watch" if you didn't know
because streamer mode is nonexistent
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tbh mola I was going to call you out for refering to pv as "he" then I realized this was pale prince
sad
nice hitbox on that trail ._.
it seems like linger after the visual disappears idk
blame lag
you got this knightmere!
you were recording before streaming weren't you?
wilbo was online for approximately 2 seconds
did you win?
close
no 
yea
3000 health, 3 phases
Wilbo if you just changed your thing to offline so we wouldn't see you:
knightmere is streaming a modded version of pure vessel go watch it, it's cool
its fine as long as you dont fullscreen it
i am i am >.<
sorry doing hw too atm dont ask me to do anything 
that parry was incredible
did you do it intentionally

"jump" is a legitimate attack now?
I've only had pv do it to me like 3 times
huh i mean i know PV does it when the knight is mid air but i guess much slower
if they do it it isnt that noticeable
it is noticeable when they do it if you camp the wall though
and thats how i realized it actually was an attack
im pretty sure it turns into a d-plunge if youre under him
you've died to the void spill attack so many times now (and by that I mean like 3 times)
aaa gotta go to eat dinner
it dropped to 3 nice
it was horrendous for my average standards
the void attacks seem a bit unfair
na not the one with the tendrils and 2 daggers
because they blend in
the peepee one is a bit hard to get used to though
arc
the arc that goes everywhere
u
rine
u
not the arc that is normal, that one is fair enough, tho still hard to see.
hk high contrast preset
but the one that shoots the void daggers at a big spread
that clipped me
a whole bunch
i couldn't really see it
but sorta
can you make it have a while outline or something

perhaps
What is modding for Hollow Knight like?
is it full switches
or a full new area
or
or is it just everyone becomes Zote
no it's mainly having trouble finding a good name for your mod and then everyone making penis jokes about it
pp po po lel
thats one of my keyboard macros and i keep pressing that instead of the esc key
thinking emojis are toxic
ModInstaller keeps overwriting my "custom" compiled modding api ๐ฆ
Yeah it checks shasums
bastards... writing good software
If you want to use it anyways you can just comment out CheckUpdate
ModManager.cs, line 28
eh, i saved the binary,
i can just copy it over any time i run modinstaller
probably won't be swapping stuff out too often
X
ty, tho
this is why linux is dungo
yes i also like to blame an operating system for an api bug
just remove the apicheck
hating on gradow ๐
dont use linux == no api bug == time saved == annoy 56
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use linux == use tiling window manager == time saved
it's not a bug, it's a feature
Would you accept a pull request if I found the time to pick at it?
ascended
wut 56
it returns
it won't install the api
emo, sure
i only do that to aa sorry

it installed the api anyway
oh no
it didn't
it tried to
and downloaded something
but it did not succeed

no
I feel oddly violated
sounds hot

Couldn't you just add the sha checksum for the linux build to the check?
it's the same, isn't it?
oooh, ok
the proper solution would be a separate build for linux and the proper proper solution would be continuous integration built right into radiance.host to achieve that
(god that would be sexy if it were setup but god the effort to set that up no thanks)
(plus running fredboat leaves me with not enough ram to do that on the radiance.host server)
the proper proper proper solution would be fixing the bug
so what happens if I tried the one I complied on my linux machine on a windows machine?
anyone tried that?
yeah no real problems
I used to compile the lifeblood beta versions of the modding api to distribute and I built them on linux
and there weren't any issues
iirc
nobody has linux pcs they use daily in the modding community anymore. I used to but I'm not really in the modding community anymore these days
Has anyone beaten the released version of pale prince yet?
legend says the creator of atomic radiance never even got past the first phase
because
Sorry for any audio crackling in the video. This is a mod created by 56, which mods the Pure Vessel to have more attacks, have higher health, lower cooldown ...
turn down your volume at 0:35, it gets fucking crusty
those daggers seem so slow for short hops too
that attack is much easier to dodge than it looks
Yeah, I'm just bad at timing when to let go of the key to short hop and often end up bumping my head against the higher spikes
gg 
he didn't do the tele dash attack?
@copper nacelle
Very cool changes overall. Lack of stagger feels like itโs adding artificial difficulty, though, especially when the boss has this much health. Other than that, it looks really fun while remaining learnable!
that shadow dagger ๐ฉ
@copper nacelle
Very cool changes overall. Lack of stagger feels like itโs adding artificial difficulty, though, especially when the boss has this much health. Other than that, it looks really fun while remaining learnable!
Is there any way of changing the dung cloud (after the explosion of the glowing womb creatures) so that I can see something? bc it covers everything
yea unequip defenders crest
make it instakill you if you get hit by its head in death mode
I think it's pretty complete Graig
56 was trying to add our fix a few more moves, iirc, but he released, so...
yeah it's complete
Might tweak dash a bit today but other than that the only thing I want to add is a statue toggle
Has anybody talked about training an a AI to play HK? I'm itching to make a Markoth Chain joke
56 said he wanted to train an ai to fight infinite grimm
that went nowhere as you might imagine
Infinite grimm doesn't sound bad because there's an easy metric for performance
Damage
But how the hell would it know what's good or bad in the real game?
What would the metric be? It's too open
just dodge the boss lol
length of life + damage sg
For people who don't like the 2D metroidvania style that affect the fight, has anyone ever released a mod that change the input of damage and the fighting atyle?
blackmoth and lightbringer
@young walrus do you know about some more mods?
then how do you install it correctly?
i followed instructions
and that doesnt work
just.... use the installer
if you downloaded stuff from github, that's not a compiled mod
it's the source code
yeah true
i see now that the installer downloaded the dll
i had the source
thank you
hahaha better to make it easy
there's quite a few more mods in the installer
do u recommend any of them?
depends on what you want
read the summaries
blackmoth is pretty cool, but is a huge sequence breaker if you're playing a new game.
i'm digging blackmoth
"Non-API Mods (non-functional on current version)"
Wasn't that interesting, anyway, iirc.
they're just rooms that are in the source code for the game that aren't used
like forest of bones

projectile spam
dont listen to them its very cool and intimidating
but im wondering if this is true
you can tell someone is an epic gamer when they save ddark for this move
you can
holding super dash on the wall would be more inconvenient than just jumping it
people are willing to hold superdash for 5 minutes to cheese failed champ
okay you have a point
doing that would hamper your damage a lot
i don't think it's necessary, you sacrifice damage for safety by doing that
though i haven't tried it so i don't know for sure
yeah but the only video I've seen of it had someone ddarking through it because they couldn't dodge
If people are resorting to ddark then I want to kill them if they try cdash
yeah nvm i thin you should adjust it
._.
i thicc you should adjust it too
are you planning on adding a telegraph to tele dash?
Probably yeah
I could make the trail black for tele dash maybe
Or maybe white => black gradient
ooh
that could be interesting
yeah i still think it would be good for some sort of white outline or glow on the black daggers
ooh
kule
hmmmmmmmm
The other idea which seems cooler is using an emissive material
In this Unity 5 tutorial, I show you how to use the standard shader and directly looking at the emissive material slot with use in the global illumination fo...
Which is glowy instead of an outline
kule as well
huh
glowy will look weirder
does that work in 2d?
I think
why would anyone use 2d unity
Can confirm that the javelin maze can do super dash on the wall. You technically can just tap the button and you'll be fine. Should make that not doable.
thanks hedrack
I tried that once to see if it worked when I saw portions of the wall clear. For science.
were you still able to get as many hits in?
make him invincible in that phase like NKG
Nope. It was just trying that out.
making him invincible seems like it punishes better play
Hello
If you can hit him while jumping without fucking up you should be rewarded
I see pp has beaten?
imo
jngo
yesterday
Oh fuck
welll.... ugh timezones
Well I guess Iโll just have to be the first nail only then
8:24 mountain time
but 56
I'll get to it 56
have you even beaten it yourself
Jngo grats
no that takes effort
thank
....
if i've tested everything to be able to be dodged and well telegraphed then there's no point
except fun
man who almost beats boss with fury says he won't be able to radiant it
megathink
But fury means I took 4 hits already
No I have work and classes
I have a lot of work to procrastinate
Is this me for the past 2 days playing pale prince
I'll have to make that 6 year radiant promise to mola
yeah its k jngo you got 6 years to do it
56 Iโll try to radiant it on the weekend
no rush
But not now
i sleep
Sad history midterms exist
U mean last week
Mine was on the 3rd week get on my level
I have midterms next week ๐
History marks were delayed
hist
ry
Suck a pp
Pp featuring void piss attack that always kills me
Anyway back to intense work
intense work has been halted
time to do 56's pp?
too easy
agreed
I might
I was considering an nkg pufferfish-esque thing at the end which is super hard to dodge and he has invin during
.
Don't . me this is a great idea
.
I was also considering 3 damage but that might be overdoing it
.
i think making it invincible would negate smart strategy
that's why it's at the end
and hard to dodge
similar idea to furi's last phases on bosses
is there a reason boss rush isn't on the installer
oh shit i haven't fought d'oh and doctor pp yet
I don't think Dr. PP has a valid medical license.
should i do a super hard nkg pufferfish type thing
i might just add another phase
Other than maybe your fake out telegraph it probably is fine.
but more difficulty
i need to at least add one more attack to p3
maybe a fake out slash
Maybe he reveals hidden bombs you have to defuse too. 
ech adds
what about an attach where he jumps into the air and does the dash
and knives rains under
what if he just literally grows wings
Is there a non ddark way to dodge the grid attack on PP?
jump
no
i mean the white particles behind the guy yeah
but the daggers are the same as the normal SmallShot
so you can just small hop
someone tell me wtf this guy is saying
https://youtu.be/-30br076jwQ?t=103
how am I supposed to understand it with echo, voices in the background, and constantly changing music
is this a meme video
@cunning lagoon
I didn't want to ping anyone but yes please
@cunning lagoon
i do not understand a single word @solemn rivet
great
looks like kuro is a nomophobe
classic kurosh
Let me decipher this with my 0 knowledge of spanish
ey finch
yes gradow
I will go take a shower
is that a good game?
TIL, Veru's 5 on the AP Spanish test was fake and Kurosh doesn't speak spanish
I'm safe. Never claimed to know shit about spanish
where are you from again?
brbrbr
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
hueheuheuehueh
algum br???
gradow
understandable dadow
play Ni no Kuni 2: Revenant Kingdom
kyr05h
what part of it turned you away
mostly the story
i c
its very basic except the start which is ballistic
uhhh
Trails
I don't know anything about it but acrid said it's good
@solemn rivet should be right up ur alley
they said weeb game
@solemn rivet should F
U
R
I right up ur alley
perfect
weeb games or games games
weeb
i don't have any of those
"Hentai beautiful girls" has a 96% positive rating from 25 reviewers and is 51% off
hollow knight
lol, A-R on one page.
@solemn rivet seems right up your alley
that's just the linux compatible games
ptk shushยฒ
not a lot here tbh
16.74 cdn 
kuro already gave me eroico, so he's safe
hi mad
imma kick your ass old man
gradow play Recettear if you like capitalism
what
gradow play military dictatorship if you like the 1960s
gradow play Chrono Trigger
gradow play lightbringer
gradow play Golden Sun
#archived-modding-development play Iconoclasts
finch did you make it past wrench yet

Iconoclasts is currently in my backlog because Furi and Half Life 2
i cant believe you would replace the best game ever made by 2 shit games
shame on you
ding dong ur wrong
no
u
u
^^
hmmm
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i like furi's gunplay better tbh
you use mouse your opinion is invalid
^
but i don't use mouse in icono
tbf gunplay in furi boils down to "spam it to get some extra damage in"
these are the words of a man who has not played furier
this
gun does more damage than slashing
u
for all of like 20 minutes
i sure love using numpad instead of mouse in first person shooters
stop being inactive i dont want to go to g eneral
idk man i lied
56 exist
this
@ 56
@copper nacelle '
56 why is furier the line mega pain
hmm today i will try to time dashes when dash is on release while bullets close in on me and that can only be avoided by dashing
hmmmm
Icono better because parrying yes
the person with the worst phase 1
yes!
with the barriers and shit
yes !!
just use spindle
thats a funny way to spell The Burst
yes
oh
I like that fight
furier was a nightmare, sure
but who plays on furier anyway?
guys
yes Titan#1239
any of u have stutter and massive lag when hitting metal door for example?
or in crystal location
with crystal hunters
yes
is there anything causing it?
the game being bad
mods maybe? or something else
it's not happening to everyone
so i guess it has something to do with mods or something else
Yea game just kills itself when hitting metal objects
yeah
when you hit the needle?
it should only really happen the first time tho
Do we know what even causes it
well once it get's lagged it keeps like that unless i change room, but if i do it again it will lag again until i exit the room
but since it's a boss battle i cant exit the room
it's not a lag spike?
it should be called lag spike if it didn't take that long
The lag spike is supposed to last the duration of the nail hit and then never happen again
well idk but i cant fight at 3 fps
Uh
well that's your computer probably because that's not supposed to happen
Lag kills itself after the nail hit normally
when i hit a door the lag will stay for until i leave the room
That
it's something to do with calculating the collisions or some shit
if i hit the crystals too
Is not normal
yup, that is not normal
everytime i do it it will lag me
never noticed it then
hmmm
but i wasn't at crystal location yet
what mods are you using?
hpbar and debug
there's the modding api and modcommon too
Gradow is god since he made installer u see
did you get the mods from the modinstaller?
ok
I have no idea where the problem would arise from
use the installer to disable all mods
there's a button for that
do it and try lagging
Is this how trying to find bugs feels like
is there any specific place to try it fast?
Itโs annoying as fuck since thereโs this problem but you donโt know what causes the problem and you feel gay
Uh
Wtf
Why ๐
also everytime i open the game it opens windowed but it would say "fullscreen on" and i cant change that
win 7
just hit some crystals, like you were doing before
when i open modinstaller it doesnt show any mods
yeah but it'll take time to get there xd
Screenshots perhaps
ok, let's move to modding-help
i restored the original folder of the game and without the mods or anything i can now change fullscreen again.
so i think i found the problem.
maybe you did something wrong while installing the api
just use the installer
it should auto-install it

i cant
i'm asking for general
it's a certain thing that lags everyone
huh
solved.
installer's wrong.
so no one in internet knew how to solve the problem. and i do now...
tell us
i already did
also, hey 56
installer's wrong
wdym installer is wrong?
well



