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solar jacinth
royal ridge
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you can stop now

solar jacinth
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ok

solemn rivet
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Btw, how did you make the lines on the face of the knight so clean?

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It looks real good ngl

solar jacinth
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are u talking with me ?

solemn rivet
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Ye

copper nacelle
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For a good 15 seconds I thought sugar got modder somehow

solar jacinth
solemn rivet
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yeah

solar jacinth
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photoshop magic

solemn rivet
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Now it looks not-so-smooth, but maybe it's the zoom? Because the sheet you posted earlier was real nice

solar jacinth
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it looks like that cuz its zoomed

solemn rivet
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Right

solar jacinth
solemn rivet
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Yeah!

solar jacinth
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un zoomed ver

solemn rivet
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ouo

mossy pike
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I think the added lines still look a little bit too sharp compared to the rest of the lines

solar jacinth
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im working on that right now there is so much sprites to recolor

solemn rivet
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Is that like

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owo

solar jacinth
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ye im new to photoshop

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so thats my first work

solemn rivet
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From afar I think they look fine, Muri, but up close... I agree

solar jacinth
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i dont know how to change brush to a good and smooth one. thats why

solemn rivet
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There's a smoothness scale tho

mossy pike
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I don't know anything about Photoshop so i'm just helpful at giving critiques, not actual advice milliS

solar jacinth
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what

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oh ok

solemn rivet
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Let me get to my pc real quick

solar jacinth
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i didnt know there as smoothness scale

solemn rivet
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Like, 45min

solar jacinth
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ok

river eagle
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How smooth the line is depends on the anti aliasing the brush you use has

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Are you actually doing this on adobe photoshop?

solar jacinth
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yes

river eagle
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@weak lodge Also you should see this

solar jacinth
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honestly i inspired from @weak lodge ' s profile photo

weary oyster
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being able to reload spritesheets while game is running when

copper nacelle
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You can

weary oyster
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you can?

copper nacelle
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Yeah

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Just toggle the mod in options

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Iirc

weary oyster
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nice

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disagree

copper nacelle
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wtf

solar jacinth
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after finishing grimm version of the knight im planning to do infected version of it

weary oyster
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ok nvm i just did something wrong

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works now

copper nacelle
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nice

weary oyster
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ok why are some of the dreamgate teleport sprites just randomly mirrored ingame

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wtf team cherry

copper nacelle
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There's a thing on an fsm action for that

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It's a tk2d thing maybe

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It was a field called rightSideFlip or something

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bool

weary oyster
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ah yes a tk2d thing

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that makes a lot more sense now

cunning lagoon
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it can be faster with not shit rng

copper nacelle
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gamer

cunning lagoon
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same

solar jacinth
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i this a good game ?

cunning lagoon
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yes

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also it was blockrock wr pace and i missed ween skip hollowD

solar jacinth
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how much is it

cunning lagoon
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20

solar jacinth
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ill think to buy it

cunning lagoon
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that's a wise choice

solar jacinth
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ok ill buy iy

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ir*

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it

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it*

cunning lagoon
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hollowD one of us hollowD

weary oyster
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whats up with the base spell sprites having black backgrounds

river eagle
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Indie games in the 21th century starter pack:

  • 2d
  • pixelated "retro" graphics
  • d e e p lore
weary oyster
solar jacinth
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  • cheap price
weary oyster
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they display fine ingame

solar jacinth
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i always wondered that too

solemn rivet
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because

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the void is behind the kinght's powers

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ttacco, you're the only one who gets me

weary oyster
floral furnace
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ill be honest with you tho i dont get it

solemn rivet
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same

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see?

copper nacelle
river eagle
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What is this loaf

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and why is it pensive

cunning lagoon
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it's a pensive loaf

copper nacelle
river eagle
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deep

copper nacelle
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Same

solemn rivet
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this is 56 - deep lore

floral furnace
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56 has no lore

cunning lagoon
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๐Ÿฅ

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ttacco stream

floral furnace
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stream myself dying internally sure

cunning lagoon
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can relate

copper nacelle
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this is acceptable stream content

solemn rivet
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I can stream myself studying, but no sound

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cause my neighbour is doing some construction shit

cunning lagoon
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whats the point if i cant hear papa gradow's voice

floral furnace
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tell youre gonna "unconstruct" him if he doesnt stop the noises ๐Ÿ˜ค

solemn rivet
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cease

copper nacelle
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why do i not have omega triumph

floral furnace
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๐Ÿ˜ฉ > ๐Ÿ˜” > ๐Ÿ˜ค >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ๐Ÿ˜‚ tbh

cunning lagoon
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hollowD >

solemn rivet
cunning lagoon
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hollowWeary <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< everything

floral furnace
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those are some fighting words

cunning lagoon
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they are some truthful words

solemn rivet
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remove one <, then we're game

cunning lagoon
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sure

solemn rivet
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nice

cunning lagoon
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oh what

floral furnace
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lmao

cunning lagoon
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wong person

copper nacelle
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Incredible

cunning lagoon
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@copper nacelle

solemn rivet
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who even dat

mortal trout
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u

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
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i hate this

solemn rivet
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triumphomega is far superior

floral furnace
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thank you for these

cunning lagoon
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hal had some very good highly cursed wearys

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@river eagle send

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
mortal trout
river eagle
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I made a couple of variations of that one
superweary megaweary ultraweary omegaweary

cunning lagoon
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yoink

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mine now

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wow what the sidebuttons on my mosue scroll between servers

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only one of them does

copper nacelle
solar jacinth
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56 < everything < sugar

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sry

copper nacelle
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no

cunning lagoon
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pee is stored in the 56

copper nacelle
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X

solar jacinth
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yes

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56 < pee

copper nacelle
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.

solar jacinth
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heh

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56 < .

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56 < sugar container

royal ridge
solar jacinth
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56 < zote the mighty

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56 < benji

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56 < cornywoke

royal ridge
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Seriously cease

urban olive
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It might be time to stop

solar jacinth
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ok

mortal trout
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any stream

cunning lagoon
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you

hollow pier
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modding be more like sr offtopic

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350 messages vs 4

mortal trout
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modding-offtopic imo

cunning lagoon
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yes this

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icono went up to 67 viewers

mortal trout
hollow pier
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now we just need a guy with 10k viewers to stream it

cunning lagoon
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sean is close to that

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just get nl to play it imo

mortal trout
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any streams^2

cunning lagoon
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you

mortal trout
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do you actually want to watch me die to black 2

cunning lagoon
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yes

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but mic

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dont be like pete

mortal trout
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no mic

hollow pier
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no mic is for real gamers

cunning lagoon
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i hear the wrench wr holder doesnt mic

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so you are right

hollow pier
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๐Ÿ™‚

cunning lagoon
mortal trout
cunning lagoon
cunning lagoon
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send save

hollow pier
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1:29 with double crawlspace hit

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i sleep

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1:28 when

cunning lagoon
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never

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low 1:29 on the other hand seems feasible

hollow pier
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just skip the chest lol

cunning lagoon
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it would have been so good without the retarded crawlspace rnbg

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i cannot believe it was a 29 even with that

hollow pier
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i lose all my time on controller GWbratWhy

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impossible fight

cunning lagoon
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@mortal trout send save

hollow pier
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1:34 wrench in pb i sleep

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ok wait

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is it faster to kill the two guys then gb in the crawlspace

cunning lagoon
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i thought about that but that'd mean not gunboosting before the second slime

hollow pier
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it's a short gb

cunning lagoon
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its also not something that i'd go for in runs and i dont wanna have fake golds

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like if you wanna add a crouched gunboost on top of all the other shit blockrock has then by all means do so

hollow pier
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crouched gb in shard

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for real gamers

cunning lagoon
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tfw im never gonna get a corners save

hollow pier
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same

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i think mine could work

cunning lagoon
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send

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why would a 29 with double hit even be an i sleep

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shouldnt it be the opposite

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getting it despite the shit rng

hollow pier
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because it could be pog but you suck at being lucky

cunning lagoon
hollow pier
cunning lagoon
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tyty

hollow pier
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feat. kuro

cunning lagoon
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saem

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it does work hollowD

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
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time to die dozens of times to last phase

hollow pier
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same

cunning lagoon
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i legit do not know how to fight that phase

solar jacinth
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damn that game looks fun. definitly gonna buy it

hollow pier
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another runner

solar jacinth
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iconoclast it was right ?

cunning lagoon
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yeah

solar jacinth
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ill be playing it tomorrow

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buying*

cunning lagoon
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stream it

hollow pier
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this

solar jacinth
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where ?

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twitch ?

cunning lagoon
solar jacinth
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hmm but who would watch that tho

cunning lagoon
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me

solar jacinth
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enough for me ill stream

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tomorrow

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if i had time

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have*

hollow pier
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now do i study ๐Ÿค”

cunning lagoon
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no

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aight i hitlessed them

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that wasnt so bad

hollow pier
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nuts

cunning lagoon
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looks like featherweight is very slightly worse than a gunboost

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unless my eyes deceive me

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nah its the same

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konjak make them stack please PepeHands

hollow pier
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yeah then we could fight corners to scale the wall after black steals samba

cunning lagoon
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exactly

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im considering a low% challenge playthrough for fun

solar jacinth
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do you guys are speedrunners ? i mean isnt speedrunning so tiring ? it must be so hard to calculate fastest way and all that glitch stuff

cunning lagoon
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speedrunning hk is agony

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speedrunning icono is good

hollow pier
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hk i sleep

solar jacinth
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heh i agree u on that

hollow pier
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icono i sleep but only during most bosses

solar jacinth
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off topic

cunning lagoon
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yes pretty much

solar jacinth
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hmm

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i have never tried speedrunning tho

cunning lagoon
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speedrunning eroico i dont sleep btu i get rsi

solar jacinth
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nice grammar

cunning lagoon
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fuck it im doing it

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hopefully i wont quit at copter

hollow pier
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copter isn't terrible just mega slow

cunning lagoon
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i just realized i dont know how to do tower dodgerolless

hollow pier
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same

cunning lagoon
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oh no bosses have way more health

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this is gonna throw me off so much

hollow pier
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probably some slow way to unlock floor 3 left side

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then get gun

cunning lagoon
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i already hate this

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i died to a spiketop

hollow pier
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rofl

cunning lagoon
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jesus there are more enemies too

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almost died to a random slime

hollow pier
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they just put random blobs everywhere

crude silo
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So... Why do all mods point to "Discord" as a download location?

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Ah, sweet.

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Thank you

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Why they don't just point there, I'll never know

cunning lagoon
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shit i picked up the sand schematic

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that doesnt count as a % right

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its just picking up mats and crafting tweaks

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nice the frog timing is different in harder

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or challenge in this case

mortal trout
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i am back

cunning lagoon
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do the thing myArms

dusky lion
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He is back

solemn rivet
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@crude silo where do you see mods pointing to the discord, if I may ask?

cunning lagoon
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ah ofc i get w3 skip in my playthrough

crude silo
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@solemn rivet possibly old reddit post for the bonfire mod, and anywhere else I found forums for (steam/Reddit) seemed to point here like "why aren't you just checking the discord"

solemn rivet
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oh yeah

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because at the time of those posts, that link didn't exist

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and the install process was way more complicated than it is now

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(not really)

ornate rivet
copper nacelle
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clicking five buttons is significantly more complicated than clicking two easy

cunning lagoon
weak lodge
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Someone pinged me twice for a custom knight skin pack that looks like me hella woke

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Yesssss

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@solar jacinth looks good

cunning lagoon
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xXx5ifty6ixXx

dusky lion
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This

fickle heron
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Meanwhile I still dont know how to work the custom knight mod

ornate rivet
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install it with modinstaller

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go to mods folder, find the custom knight folder

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replace knight spritesheets with edited ones

ornate rivet
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If I run a virus made for windows on a windows VM hosted by Ubuntu, the malware shouldn't be a able to reach my other real windows computers through the network, correct?

solemn rivet
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you're never safe

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have you checked your tinfoil hat?

ornate rivet
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should I put one on all my computers or just the one running the malware?

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and should I put a picture of a tinfoil hat on the VM too?

solemn basin
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Actual tinfoil increases the effectiveness by 47%

solemn rivet
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^

ornate rivet
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what if I use my phone's hotspot for wifi instead thinkgrub

solemn basin
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Then the Illuminati will definitely get you.

fair rampart
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I think this is the most confusing thing I have ever walked into on discord without context

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Saleh why is your computer wearing tinfoil

solemn rivet
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virus

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he wants to infect us

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so we told him to use protection

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and everyone knows pc condoms are made of tinfoil

ornate rivet
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Scientific explanation:
foil is proven to bounce wifi signals so by using it, I can stop viruses from leaving my computer to another one

solemn rivet
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see?

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what did I tell you?

fair rampart
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wait "paper tinfoil"?

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tf is paper tinfoil?

solemn rivet
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idk

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maybe an impression of tinfoil on A4 paper?

warped sinew
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So in the USA you guys use tinfoil? Over here we use Alfoil (Aluminium not tin)

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Interesting

fair rampart
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we do too

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just call it tinfoil because it used to be tin

warped sinew
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Ahh OK

fair rampart
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aluminum is cheaper than tin

solemn rivet
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same

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we actually call it "aluminium paper"

fair rampart
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apparently tinfoil was superseded by alfoil following WWII

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but we still commonly refer to it as tinfoil

cunning lagoon
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we call it aluminum paper too

fair rampart
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I've never heard it called that tbh

warped sinew
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Fun fact, Aluminium used to be almost impossible to mine pure until we worked out REDOX reactions using DC current. Then overnight it became the easiest and cheapest metal to mine and purify. HASHTAG CHEMISTRY

solemn rivet
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brothers

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AAA: spanish and pt-br tbh

cunning lagoon
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same

solemn rivet
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ok, I gotta take like a 15 min break

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I've been sitting studying for like 7h straight

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my lower back is killing me

ornate rivet
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wow Graig

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I'm speechless

fair rampart
ornate rivet
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btw, so far my computers have not been encrypted so I am guessing the paper/tin/aluminum foil worked

cunning lagoon
hollow pier
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insane math exam

cunning lagoon
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how did it go

hollow pier
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piss easy

cunning lagoon
hollow pier
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not studying pays off yet again

cunning lagoon
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you arrive just in time to check out a new strat

hollow pier
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nuts

hollow pier
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wow it's shit room

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oh shit

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sean bop gets easier every day

cunning lagoon
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๐Ÿ˜Ž

hollow pier
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breath meter is pretty monka

cunning lagoon
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nah its fine

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the dude doesnt hit you if you teleport as soon as you finish going througb the poles

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just make sure to charge the wrench in the same way i did so it lasts powered up all the way through

mortal trout
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any streams

fair rampart
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yes they have water

mortal trout
cunning lagoon
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im doing low% challenge if you want to watch that

mortal trout
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seems good

cunning lagoon
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alright hold on

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also idk if ts actually low% cause i accidentally picked up a schematic an idk if those count

hollow pier
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wait a sec

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black 1 always does the grab 3 times right

cunning lagoon
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not like it matters

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yeah

hollow pier
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she only did 2

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is this the fastest black 1 in the west

cunning lagoon
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yeah the last one is when shes pretty low on health

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you might have just outdps'd her

hollow pier
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i think she started the grab and died

cunning lagoon
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thats nice

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it'd be cool if we could replicate it

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cause the grab animation takes forever

hollow pier
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i just fought her like the gamer i am

cunning lagoon
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insane

hollow pier
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she killed me with the grab

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nutty

ornate rivet
dusky lion
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56 i luv youuuuu

mortal trout
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56 i want you to dieeeeee

weary oyster
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same but me

ornate rivet
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You know what sucks

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giving people the link to modinstaller instead of telling them to come to discord doesn't work because crap defender tells them it's a virus

native wing
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are you calling it crap defender because you think modinstaller is crap

ornate rivet
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sigh

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windows defender: the antivirus software every windows computer has that sucks

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aka crap defender

native wing
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if i throw the computer against a wall does it still have windows defender

ornate rivet
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If it's windows, then sadly yes

native wing
young walrus
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If you have a Windows PC in front of a window and it stops a Windows PC with Windows defender on it from hitting the window, is that PC with Windows defender on it a Windows defender?

ornate rivet
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what stops the windows pc from hitting the window?

native wing
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the other windows pc

civic hare
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how many windows would windows defender defend if windows defender could defend windows

dusky lion
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0

civic hare
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more like windows dead er

south copper
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Hi all, I have a question to mod devs, not sure if this is the correct channel.

weak lodge
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?

south copper
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I have been working on a mod manager for another game and have been finding the repo for HK mod to be an invaluable resource. But I had some question about the code itself.

weak lodge
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@copper nacelle

mortal trout
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imagine pinging 56 :pensiveloaf:

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wait

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my nitro is gone

weak lodge
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Oh well

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It was good

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Time to renew

dusky lion
south copper
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Well I will ask it anyways, maybe someone will see it: I was wondering why the devs packaged the original assembly with MMHOOK dll, since they create their own delegates and events anyways. Is it just to give that option to the mod developers in case they find the API hooks restrictive?

weak lodge
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Uh

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These are questions for 56 zote

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Hes the real meme man

south copper
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yeah, I don't want to ping anyone, maybe they will see it eventually and reply

weak lodge
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Hopefully he comes back from committing die and reply

mortal trout
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yes 56 is definitely the only person that could possibly answer these questions

weak lodge
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He surely is the most active here

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Legend

hollow pier
rain cedar
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Both kinds of hooks are useful

weak lodge
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Oh god

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Pete

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Wtf

cunning lagoon
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yeah that happens when you disable a mod

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so all those are modded blocks

hollow pier
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yeah i figured

cunning lagoon
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did you generate the world with calamity or thorium

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both add new oceans

hollow pier
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thorium i believe but i have it enabled

south copper
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I can see them being useful, it's just a matter of whether or not you would want to give that degree of freedom to the modders I guess

rain cedar
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The mods already run unrestricted C# without monomod hooks

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Not like there's any more harm in it

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Just don't run mods you don't trust

south copper
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I am modding a game called Yo Noid 2 and honestly the code is bit of a clusterf**k. I can see exposing more hooks doing more harm than good. But I suppose you are right

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Also, you guys wouldn't mind if I just ported over the Canvas and Console bits from your repo, would you? I know very little Unity and reading your repo has been real helpful so far.

rain cedar
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The API is MIT licensed

south copper
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Oh, that's fine then. Also I find it interesting that HK Modding API uses dynamicInvoke heavily. Does that not bog down performance with a lot of mods?

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Not sure if there are any downsides to using non-reflection counterpart since types are known in advance.

young walrus
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Lol

rain cedar
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If anything the game runs better with the API

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In the base game any access to any variable at all in the player class uses uncached reflection

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We fixed that for obvious reasons

south copper
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I was surprised to see those set... hooks in player class, it makes sense now.

rain cedar
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Yeah, side effect of the game being almost entirely playmaker

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They can't access variables directly without hard coding it in the actions

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So we've got get/set by name functions to deal with

south copper
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Ok, at least I won't have that issue. I will have to look up PlayerMaker (not too knowledgeable with Unity). I was originally making mods on JIT'd code but it started to become real troublesome doing everything at asm level.

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This is certainly easier. Anyways, thank you so much for all the explanations. Really appreciate it!

rain cedar
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Why would you ever mod after the JIT?

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IL is bad enough lmao

south copper
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Yeah, I didn't know much about Cecil in general and certainly wasn't aware of Monomod. Doing it the only way I knew how was asm. Definitely a terrible idea in hindsight lol

hollow pier
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insane game

cunning lagoon
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tldw

hollow pier
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the game is good

cunning lagoon
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thsi guy talks about nothing but lore

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any slopeboosts

hollow pier
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his voice is cool i just used it for 13 minutes of bg noise

cunning lagoon
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it is

blissful burrow
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Hey sean are you gonna stream today

cunning lagoon
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did you submit your run

weary oyster
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he describes MC as mute and then instantly chooses dialogue options dunq

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explain this deep lore thank

blissful burrow
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Wait isn't Noid

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Oh no

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Goof tier

cunning lagoon
compact sedge
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wow forget that hollow knight run this is way better

weary oyster
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seriously how do dialogue options exist if she cant talk

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this is bothering me a lot

hollow pier
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have you played pokemon

cunning lagoon
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I dont think she id actually mute

weary oyster
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he made like a whole point about how her being mute in the lore is a big deal

cunning lagoon
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Pretty sure its like pokemon and zelds ames where the mc is not mute bit we dont see them talk

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Or some shit

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To the best of my knowledge robin is not a mute person

weary oyster
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"She's allowed to display fear, sadness, happiness in pantomimes, in a way that's surprisingly more enchanting than if she'd been given dialogue"

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literally chooses a dialogue option

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2 seconds later

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does this guy not understand that that counts as dialogue

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bad review 0/10

hollow pier
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finnish man hates everything

cunning lagoon
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This

blissful burrow
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Robin isn't really mute

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But she's cannonically really reclusive

rain cedar
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cannon

blissful burrow
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Yes she has a gun

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She may aswell have a cannon

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It shoots bombs already anyway

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And is strong enough to kill gods

rain cedar
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Hey now

#

The starworm isn't actually a god

cunning lagoon
#

No you missed the wholevooint of the sotey

#

Theres no god

weary oyster
#

wow spoilers

blissful burrow
#

"a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity."

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I'd put the starworm above humans

#

And it's definitely worshipped as having power

cunning lagoon
#

He doesnt really havebsny power its just a machine

blissful burrow
#

It has enough power to punch the fuck out of royal I can tell you that much

#

It also doesn't matter if it does or not

cunning lagoon
#

Everyone has enough power to del that

blissful burrow
#

All that matters is that it is worshipped as such

cunning lagoon
#

They worshio him becaue they think he is a god

#

That doesnt make hin. God

blissful burrow
#

It pretty much does according to the definition of the word

cunning lagoon
#

Well the definitiln is wrl g

rain cedar
#

I'm assuming wrl g = wrong

blissful burrow
#

Same

cunning lagoon
#

Yea

rain cedar
#

And I agree

#

That definition includes gods but not everything that fits inside of it would be one

#

It's too broad

blissful burrow
#

Define god

rain cedar
#

That but actually having power, not just worshipped as such

blissful burrow
#

Is Mother a god then

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Is Royal a god

#

They both have power over their nature

#

And have transcended beyond humans

rain cedar
#

They don't really have power though

#

They're just people who fucked with alien technology they don't understand and got lucky enough to not die

blissful burrow
#

They're still able to sprout flowers and move things remotely

#

Even if they're cubed flowers

#

They can also heal any wound that is inflicted on their own body

#

Even if all of it is just ivory use it's still power

rain cedar
#

It's not god levels of power though at all

#

Like you said they just have power over ivory

#

The more they use their power the weaker it gets from lack of ivory

#

And get them in a room of detritus and they're useless

blissful burrow
#

This is because you're thinking of an omnipotent god though

#

Most of the polytheistic religion gods also only have powers over a single thing

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And have weaknesses

copper nacelle
#

Ok but when you think god you don't think some fool who can move blocks

blissful burrow
#

I don't, the Iconoclasts people do

copper nacelle
#

X

rain cedar
#

They don't though

#

They think the starworm is omnipotent

#

Or at least close to it

blissful burrow
#

They think the starworm made the world and is coming back for judgement afaik

rain cedar
#

Yes

#

A literal god coming back to bring the apocalypse

#

But it's not that

blissful burrow
#

I do not see how

#

The birds did make the planet

#

And are coming back because Omega Wheel told them that Royal fucked it up

#

If the argument is that Bird is not the worm then yeah I guess

#

Robin still kills bird

rain cedar
#

They didn't make the people or plan for the people or anything

#

It's basically a fucking gas station

blissful burrow
#

Yeah it is

#

It still made the world and is coming back for vengeance

rain cedar
#

Vengeance?

#

It's coming back to fix broken machines

#

The bird is a mechanic

#

Hence the giant wrench

blissful burrow
#

This is true

copper nacelle
#

why do you kill bird if it's trying to fix shit

rain cedar
#

Collateral damage of fixing the planet would be killing everyone on it

copper nacelle
#

Oh

rain cedar
#

That's what the rocket is for

#

So the big wigs can escape to the moon if this happens

#

Because they know the religion is a farce

blissful burrow
#

No what

#

I mean yeah it's for escape but it's because they do believe

#

The starworm is coming to kill everyone and they don't wanna be in the planet when he does

#

This dialogue

#

Even the suits see Royal as divine

#

The dialogues in this room too

#

Especially Shard's

#

I still don't fucking know who the guy on the table is

rain cedar
#

Oh I didn't even remember that the area dudes were in that room

blissful burrow
#

Do you know who the desk guy is

#

Like I really do not know

#

Blockrock is a girl, Ferrier, Shard, Glass and Darlands are there and alive

#

I doubt Isilugar is a suit? But maybe?

rain cedar
#

Dunno

solemn rivet
#

ngl, icono's story was actually not that bad

#

better than HK's I guess

floral furnace
#

heresy

solemn rivet
#

well, HK's story is pretty bad imo

floral furnace
#

i mean, i agree that it gets too cryptic but i found that its pretty interesting at most of the time, i mean nothing is more inspiring than a genocidal parent amirite

solemn rivet
#

inorite

#

what I mean is

#

what kept me moving forward in the game wasn't the character's motivations or wanting to know the next plot twist or anything like that

#

I just wanted to explore

#

not that every game MUST have a compelling story

#

I'm just saying it doesn't

floral furnace
#

same actually, i personally liked the story but my motivation was going around the map, and i didnt really understand the story until AFTER i had to watch a 50 minute lore video around it

#

but during that i didnt understand jack shit about the story nor was it my main motivation to keep playing

solemn rivet
#

this

#

contrary to, say, Nier Automata, where, for me at least, the story got me moving forward just as much as the combat and exploration

#

and Iconoclasts, to a certain degree

floral furnace
#

i personally find story >>> gameplay in terms of priority, theres several games that i couldve bought but didnt because while the gameplay was good the story was as engaging as a painting a brick for 15 hours straight, tho with a few exceptions

leaden hedge
#

if story is so important why are they called games and not interactive stories Kappa

floral furnace
#

w a l k i n g s i m u l a t o r s

solemn rivet
#

I honestly like some interactive stories

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What Remains of Edith Finch is pretty good

#

Brothers - A Tale of Two Sons, The Stanley Parable, Beginner's Guide

floral furnace
#

actually now that i think about it while i like a good story, i dont like walking sims but Stanley Parable is a goddamn good exception

solemn rivet
#

because of how interactive it is

#

most walking sims are just the game equivalent of a text wall

#

you don't get to experience the story or interact with it, you just see it happening

solar jacinth
#

i changed the brush to a smoother one . so left one is before right one is after . did that looked better ?

mossy pike
#

definitely, this looks really good

mortal trout
#

looks great

solemn rivet
#

yup!

#

real good

cunning lagoon
solar jacinth
#

thanks

#

i have finally found the perfect brush settings now its time to re colour all these sprites....

weary oyster
#

i highly recommend using magic wand for the cloak

hazy sentinel
#

highly recommend select color range

solar jacinth
#

oh thx

#

ill use magic wand

#

tool

#

i forgot that it even existed

hazy sentinel
solar jacinth
#

sigh x oo

#

also ax2u magic wand tool is a life saver thx

mortal trout
#

yw

hazy sentinel
#

select color range is even better

solar jacinth
#

oh whats that ?

#

im new to ph

hazy sentinel
#

you just pick cloak color and it selects all of that color

#

then you add hue mask

solar jacinth
#

oh wow

#

ill definitly try it

hazy sentinel
solar jacinth
#

thanks dude this will definitly speed up the proccess

weary oyster
#

does that actually work properly

#

like not select random other stuff that happens to be around the same colour

hazy sentinel
#

ever heard of fuzziness slider

weary oyster
#

no

hazy sentinel
#

ok

weary oyster
#

it was a genuine question

river eagle
#

yeah but that's not gonna help with the lines they have to draw on the knight's mask

#

just replacing a color takes like 10 seconds

solar jacinth
#

yes but stll speeds up the proccess

weary oyster
#

i mean that depends how good you wanna have the colour replacement to look

#

though ive never actually fiddled with this colour range stuff so maybe its easier than i think

river eagle
weary oyster
#

no

hazy sentinel
#

for most of it you could probably just apply a filter to the whole sheet since the black/white parts won't really be affected

#

if ur lazy

river eagle
#

Well that's exactly what I meant

#

you can't skip that part

#

and it's that part which makes the process so long

hazy sentinel
#

yeah but we were talking about cloak color thinkgrub

river eagle
#

I wasn't

weary oyster
#

filter kinda messes up the nail colour

#

cause its slightly red

river eagle
#

yeah they have too similar color

weary oyster
#

or violet

solar jacinth
#

yes i just had problems using it

brazen mortar
#

you can modify each colour separately in some softwares i think

#

like blues greens yellows that kind of thing

#

but if the cloak colour and the nail colour are still too close in terms of shade i guess theyll both still be affected

river eagle
#

Yeah there's no way around it

#

expect that if you could ONLY select a single RGB hex code for the color to replace

#

you could get results

young walrus
#

So, who else has sprite sheets they've made that would like them added to the drive page?

river eagle
#

and then do that for all the cloak shades

weary oyster
#

wtf custom knight doesnt have shape of unn sheets

#

blasphemy

#

mine is finn exclusive u aint gettin that shit mick

#

wait, why does the knight page in custom knight look so different from the one in texture2d

#

was it changed in lifeblood or something

copper nacelle
#

Probably

#

they changed the elegy sheets from 1221

river eagle
#

We should start distributing these knight reskins from loot boxes

copper nacelle
weary oyster
#

what does the no claw mode in rando mean

#

just that itll be really late?

hollow pier
#

no

#

claw is deaf

#

dead

weary oyster
hollow pier
#

added shit to make claw needed things possible

weary oyster
#

oh wow isnt that like a lot of things

mossy pike
#

in rando, not that much i think

#

like, there is the WK chest

#

Howling Cliffs

weary oyster
#

i guess

#

and even cliffs shade skip is a thing now so who knows

hollow pier
#

post who song

weary oyster
#

does qol fix dnail softlock

#

i think i just got saved

cunning lagoon
#

it was brought up a while back

#

not sure if he ended up fixing it

#

and claw enables most items but there aren't thaat many that actually require it

mortal trout
#

any icono streams

cunning lagoon
#

i just pb'd sorry

#

acrid might stream soon though

mortal trout
cunning lagoon
hollow pier
#

:insertnitroemote:

cunning lagoon
mortal trout
#

๐Ÿฆ€ nitro is dead ๐Ÿฆ€

cunning lagoon
#

just give me approximately 10 minutes to find the server

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
#

its pepohype

hollow pier
#

pretty sure i joined the server a long time ago for it

#

and forgot i did

cunning lagoon
#

incredible

weary oyster
cunning lagoon
#

i do not believe im you

#

however i could be wrong

hollow pier
#

emray actually doing this young knight thing

#

monka

cunning lagoon
#

the what

#

shes not even streaming

hollow pier
#

she just ended

cunning lagoon
#

this guy is pretty bad at osu

hollow pier
#

oh so that's what osu is

cunning lagoon
#

yeah

weary oyster
#

wait what

#

global hypers

hollow pier
#

how do you play that on mouse do you just break your wrist

weary oyster
#

lets fucking go

cunning lagoon
#

yeah

hollow pier
#

ah

weary oyster
hollow pier
#

when can i make my entire desk a mousepad

#

having it be constricted is homo

cunning lagoon
#

most people will tell you that tablet is better but mouse vs tablet is like keyboard +vs controller

weary oyster
cunning lagoon
#

its really just preference

weary oyster
#

blessed server

hollow pier
#

what about with dpad

cunning lagoon
#

same

#

no streams

#

this is pissing me off

young walrus
#

rewatch the latest bingo race

hollow pier
#

just wait until there are 6 streams that you want to watch but you can't watch them all

cunning lagoon
#

dont really like not watching things live

young walrus
#

what about dead

cunning lagoon
#

sure

#

looks like we have 3 decently sized streamers playing icono POGGERS

hollow pier
#

yeah me you and sean

cunning lagoon
#

rofl

young walrus
#

we're talking twitch size, not physical size, pete

cunning lagoon
#

oof

weary oyster
#

dang

cunning lagoon
#

you know i just realized i dont wanna get my face put in a rat

#

rip esa

hollow pier
#

but i am underweight

cunning lagoon
#

same

#

does sean count as 3

#

then

young walrus
#

nobody said overweight

#

decently sized

hollow pier
#

so

#

i am weight

young walrus
#

at least 5 feet tall

cunning lagoon
young walrus
#

5 feet is a decent size

#

Just ask my wife

cunning lagoon
#

i dunno about that one

#

i dont even know how tall i am

hollow pier
#

get a 30cm ruler and measure

cunning lagoon
#

also i got another tas royal cutscene

hollow pier
#

stop hacking

cunning lagoon
#

Royal
A

hollow pier
#

Royal
Awake, me

cunning lagoon
#

same

#

its usually just awake for me

#

or awake,

#

rarely do i get better than that

hollow pier
#

impossible cutscene

cunning lagoon
#

same

solemn rivet
#

Has anyone commented yet that icono is on today's chrono.gg?

cunning lagoon
#

whats that

hollow pier
#

on today's what

solemn rivet
#

Boii

cunning lagoon
#

oh yeah its the anniversary of the icono release thing

#

i guess its on sale because of it

#

good

#

means more runners

hollow pier
#

so is robin legal now

cunning lagoon
#

yeah we can fuck her now

solemn rivet
#

Every day a new game on sale bois

cunning lagoon
#

who was considering buying icono

#

its a good opportunity now

#

@silk jetty

solemn rivet
#

@solar jacinth

hollow pier
#

all the streamers are in shard

#

i sleep

silk jetty
#

uh, I only have enough money for either rain world or icono, hmm

cunning lagoon
#

๐Ÿ˜”

#

do icono

#

not even a question

solemn rivet
#

Icono imo

hollow pier
#

icono

solemn rivet
#

RW is meh at best

cunning lagoon
#

sean are mother's big rock attacks scripted

hollow pier
#

you mean the 4 usurper into bomb

cunning lagoon
#

yea

hollow pier
#

she always does that after a stagger

silk jetty
#

also, pewdiepie is gaining on t-series GWnanamiRankoPog

cunning lagoon
#

ah i see

hollow pier
#

i think the only thing she can do before it is the jump towards you

#

then she'll always do it

cunning lagoon
#

dude b1 might be the second most consistent boss in the run

#

and thats only because controller exists

hollow pier
#

b1 hklove

cunning lagoon
#

well ok omega wheel is probably more consistent

#

but does he really count

hollow pier
#

i mean if you miss the rocket

cunning lagoon
#

no rng at all though

hollow pier
#

but it's your fault probably

cunning lagoon
#

probably w4 too

#

i dont think you can lose time as long as you time the rocket properly

#

which i missed in my pb btw

hollow pier
#

no i think he can do something in phase 2 that makes it not kill

#

but you wrench anyways to kill

cunning lagoon
#

yeah worst case scenario he dies in like 2 wrench hits after the rocket

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
#

LovinDaTacos stuck at copter ๐Ÿ˜”

#

truly impossible boss

hollow pier
#

same

cunning lagoon
hollow pier
#

wow rockets do literally nothing to b1

#

usurper only option

cunning lagoon
#

use seeds

hollow pier
#

same

cunning lagoon
#

acrid is live

hollow pier
#

no need to fast crawl just dodge

cunning lagoon
#

oh thats convenient

#

because i always miss the fast crawl

hollow pier
#

same

cunning lagoon
#

i did remember to go for the free darland one

hollow pier
#

insane

cunning lagoon
#

before the long slopeboost room

hollow pier
#

post-wrench moving right

#

fall off the platform and dodge

cunning lagoon
#

ah yes i will surely remember this one

hollow pier
#

i lied there's a better one

cunning lagoon
#

just make a roll cancel guide

hollow pier
#

cancels in the same spot

cunning lagoon
#

with clips of all of them

hollow pier
#

same

cunning lagoon
#

but unironically

hollow pier
#

hmmm

#

pretty tight

#

jump off the ladder and land on the higher bit

#

using the fall off of that buffer a fast crawl

cunning lagoon
#

right

hollow pier
#

barely makes it before he shoots

rain cedar
#

You don't need an edge cancel to beat that

cunning lagoon
#

i dont think he meant edge cancel for this

#

just jump there walk off and fast crawl

hollow pier
#

yeah there's no cancel in this room

rose pecan
#

what was the modding api called again?

cunning lagoon
#

wdym

rose pecan
#

like the program name

mortal trout
#

modinstaller?

rose pecan
#

could be

#

but if you run the programme, with that zote head, what is that programme called?

cunning lagoon
#

ModInstaller

rose pecan
#

okay I'll install it again

#

that would be easier than finding it

cunning lagoon
#

sean the time has come

#

for you to stream

blissful burrow
#

Yes

#

Do not make me do this again

rain cedar
#

I can't

cunning lagoon
#

๐Ÿ˜ 

blissful burrow
#

Pensive

rain cedar
#

Because I don't want to

#

Haha ayy got em

cunning lagoon
#

๐Ÿ˜ก

hollow pier
#

do i stream roll cancels

#

you can yell at me if you see a potential one too

#

probably good for clips as well

blissful burrow
#

This videogame is impossible

hollow pier
#

same

#

streaming cancels

high zealot
#

can someone remind me how to install the mod manager

#

ty

warped sinew
#

This dude shit talking keyboard controls

cunning lagoon
#

Hallowknight huh

warped sinew
#

How do u feel kurosh

#

Also.... He worded it as if the game itself has bad controls

#

Lol

cold wave
#

heya, would anyone mind helping me with debugmod/mods in general?

cunning lagoon
#

well he's obviously right i don't know what kind of madman would dare play this game on keyboard

#

even the devs suggest play on controller

young walrus
#

use installer

cunning lagoon
#

it truly must be the optimal way to play

cold wave
#

also gamepad>>>>>>>little houses made of mud>>>>>>keyboard

#

i installed the mods fine, I just don't know if DM can do a thing i need it to do

#

basically after getting rekt by radiance I'd like to respawn at the beginning of the radiance fight

#

because I'm getting sick of facetanking HK

warped sinew
#

I went to run the mod installer yesterday and it threw up an error at me actually. Something about .net framework. I guess I'll reinstall it but I didn't touch anything since last time.

young walrus
#

there's no mod to change that, lucid

cold wave
#

oh, too bad :/

young walrus
#

you can use debug mod and give yourself a shit ton of dmg tho i suppose

#

but you'd have to press a button like.... 200 times

#

and then 200 times again to reduce dmg

cold wave
#

is there a hotkey to revert it back?

#

guess there's not lol

warped sinew
#

Use cheat engine

#

Set nail to 999 then set it back to 21

cunning lagoon
#

there used to be a mod for that but it has not been updated for cp

cold wave
#

i use unbreakable strength, so... 36 damage?

#

or how much is it?

cunning lagoon
#

32

cold wave
#

alright, guess i gotta go dig for the right value to change

warped sinew
#

I actually thought about a HoG version of normal rad so ppl could fight her one her own but I never said anything to TC I assume they thought about it and decided against it.

cold wave
#

thx anyway

cunning lagoon
#

yeah it'd be col to give absrad a dnail thingy like nkg has

warped sinew
#

Yeah exactly

cunning lagoon
#

@copper nacelle ^^ for qol

warped sinew
#

Is there a stream somewhere of the completionist doing PoH with all binds?

#

He just glosses over it quickly in the video and that's what I wanted to watch the most

young walrus
#

self harm is against twitch TOS, graig

warped sinew
#

@young walrus I watched the AGDQ run again yesterday. All of You guys couch commentary was amazing

young walrus
#

damn straight it was

warped sinew
#

Had me laughing every time. Was a great run too.

young walrus
#

The fucking alarm is my favorite part

#

I dunno if you can really hear it on stream all that well

#

but it was so loud on the couch

ornate rivet
#

what alarm?

young walrus
#

The guy sitting next to me had an alarm go off on his phone

#

in the middle of the run

warped sinew
#

Lol yer that was amazing

#

U can hear it on stream

#

Everyone on the couch completely unapologetic about any distractions to the runner

#

Hahahaha

#

Good.

solemn rivet
#

Graig he didn't do all binds at once

cunning lagoon
#

he did

#

they were glowing in his video

solemn rivet
#

But you don't need to do them at the same time for them to glow afaik

cunning lagoon
#

yeah you do

solemn rivet
#

U sure?

cunning lagoon
#

yes

brazen mortar
#

yes

solemn rivet
#

Ok then

brazen mortar
#

btw can custom knight change spells?

cunning lagoon
#

yeah

brazen mortar
#

alright ok_grimm

cunning lagoon
#

most if not all of the spritesheets change how the spells look

solemn rivet
#

What happens when you only do certain binds then?

cunning lagoon
#

they have a more bronzeish look

brazen mortar
cunning lagoon
#

hot

solemn rivet
#

Got it

#

He prolly used debugmod tho ngl

#

I don't trust him