#archived-modding-development
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you can stop now
ok
Btw, how did you make the lines on the face of the knight so clean?
It looks real good ngl
are u talking with me ?
Ye
For a good 15 seconds I thought sugar got modder somehow
is this what u talking bout ?
yeah
photoshop magic
Now it looks not-so-smooth, but maybe it's the zoom? Because the sheet you posted earlier was real nice
Right
Yeah!
un zoomed ver
ouo
I think the added lines still look a little bit too sharp compared to the rest of the lines
im working on that right now there is so much sprites to recolor
From afar I think they look fine, Muri, but up close... I agree
i dont know how to change brush to a good and smooth one. thats why
There's a smoothness scale tho
I don't know anything about Photoshop so i'm just helpful at giving critiques, not actual advice 
Let me get to my pc real quick
i didnt know there as smoothness scale
Like, 45min
ok
How smooth the line is depends on the anti aliasing the brush you use has
Are you actually doing this on adobe photoshop?
yes
@weak lodge Also you should see this
honestly i inspired from @weak lodge ' s profile photo
being able to reload spritesheets while game is running when
You can
you can?
wtf
after finishing grimm version of the knight im planning to do infected version of it
ok why are some of the dreamgate teleport sprites just randomly mirrored ingame
wtf team cherry
There's a thing on an fsm action for that
It's a tk2d thing maybe
It was a field called rightSideFlip or something
bool
@rain cedar @hollow pier https://youtu.be/Kes3lVbtYrs
it can be faster with not shit rng
gamer
same
i this a good game ?
how much is it
20
ill think to buy it
that's a wise choice
one of us 
whats up with the base spell sprites having black backgrounds
Indie games in the 21th century starter pack:
- 2d
- pixelated "retro" graphics
- d e e p lore
talking about this
- cheap price
they display fine ingame
i always wondered that too
because
the void is behind the kinght's powers

ttacco, you're the only one who gets me

ill be honest with you tho i dont get it

it's a pensive loaf
deep
Same
this is 56 - deep lore
56 has no lore
stream myself dying internally sure
can relate
this is acceptable stream content
I can stream myself studying, but no sound
cause my neighbour is doing some construction shit
whats the point if i cant hear papa gradow's voice
tell youre gonna "unconstruct" him if he doesnt stop the noises ๐ค
cease
why do i not have omega triumph
๐ฉ > ๐ > ๐ค >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ๐ tbh
>
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< everything
those are some fighting words
they are some truthful words
remove one <, then we're game
sure
nice
lmao
wong person
Incredible
@copper nacelle
who even dat
u
triumphomega is far superior
thank you for these


I made a couple of variations of that one

yoink
mine now
wow what the sidebuttons on my mosue scroll between servers
only one of them does

no
pee is stored in the 56
X
.

Seriously cease
It might be time to stop
ok
any stream
you
modding-offtopic imo

now we just need a guy with 10k viewers to stream it
any streams^2
you
do you actually want to watch me die to black 2
no mic
no mic is for real gamers
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send save
just skip the chest lol
it would have been so good without the retarded crawlspace rnbg
i cannot believe it was a 29 even with that
1:34 wrench in pb i sleep
ok wait
is it faster to kill the two guys then gb in the crawlspace
i thought about that but that'd mean not gunboosting before the second slime
it's a short gb
its also not something that i'd go for in runs and i dont wanna have fake golds
like if you wanna add a crouched gunboost on top of all the other shit blockrock has then by all means do so
tfw im never gonna get a corners save
send
why would a 29 with double hit even be an i sleep
shouldnt it be the opposite
getting it despite the shit rng
because it could be pog but you suck at being lucky

tyty

time to die dozens of times to last phase
same
i legit do not know how to fight that phase
damn that game looks fun. definitly gonna buy it
another runner
iconoclast it was right ?
stream it
this
hmm but who would watch that tho
me
now do i study ๐ค
nuts
looks like featherweight is very slightly worse than a gunboost
unless my eyes deceive me
nah its the same
konjak make them stack please 
yeah then we could fight corners to scale the wall after black steals samba
do you guys are speedrunners ? i mean isnt speedrunning so tiring ? it must be so hard to calculate fastest way and all that glitch stuff
hk i sleep
heh i agree u on that
icono i sleep but only during most bosses
off topic
yes pretty much
speedrunning eroico i dont sleep btu i get rsi
nice grammar
copter isn't terrible just mega slow
i just realized i dont know how to do tower dodgerolless
same
rofl
they just put random blobs everywhere
So... Why do all mods point to "Discord" as a download location?
Ah, sweet.
Thank you
Why they don't just point there, I'll never know
shit i picked up the sand schematic
that doesnt count as a % right
its just picking up mats and crafting tweaks
nice the frog timing is different in harder
or challenge in this case
i am back
do the thing 
He is back
@crude silo where do you see mods pointing to the discord, if I may ask?
ah ofc i get w3 skip in my playthrough
@solemn rivet possibly old reddit post for the bonfire mod, and anywhere else I found forums for (steam/Reddit) seemed to point here like "why aren't you just checking the discord"
oh yeah
because at the time of those posts, that link didn't exist
and the install process was way more complicated than it is now
(not really)
sigh
clicking five buttons is significantly more complicated than clicking two easy

Someone pinged me twice for a custom knight skin pack that looks like me hella woke
Yesssss
@solar jacinth looks good
xXx5ifty6ixXx
Meanwhile I still dont know how to work the custom knight mod
install it with modinstaller
go to mods folder, find the custom knight folder
replace knight spritesheets with edited ones
If I run a virus made for windows on a windows VM hosted by Ubuntu, the malware shouldn't be a able to reach my other real windows computers through the network, correct?
should I put one on all my computers or just the one running the malware?
and should I put a picture of a tinfoil hat on the VM too?
Do paper tinfoil hat's count?
Actual tinfoil increases the effectiveness by 47%
^
what if I use my phone's hotspot for wifi instead 
Then the Illuminati will definitely get you.
I think this is the most confusing thing I have ever walked into on discord without context
Saleh why is your computer wearing tinfoil
virus
he wants to infect us
so we told him to use protection
and everyone knows pc condoms are made of tinfoil
Scientific explanation:
foil is proven to bounce wifi signals so by using it, I can stop viruses from leaving my computer to another one
So in the USA you guys use tinfoil? Over here we use Alfoil (Aluminium not tin)
Interesting
Ahh OK
aluminum is cheaper than tin
apparently tinfoil was superseded by alfoil following WWII
but we still commonly refer to it as tinfoil
we call it aluminum paper too
I've never heard it called that tbh
Fun fact, Aluminium used to be almost impossible to mine pure until we worked out REDOX reactions using DC current. Then overnight it became the easiest and cheapest metal to mine and purify. HASHTAG CHEMISTRY
same
ok, I gotta take like a 15 min break
I've been sitting studying for like 7h straight
my lower back is killing me
btw, so far my computers have not been encrypted so I am guessing the paper/tin/aluminum foil worked

insane math exam
how did it go
piss easy

not studying pays off yet again
you arrive just in time to check out a new strat
nuts
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breath meter is pretty monka
nah its fine
the dude doesnt hit you if you teleport as soon as you finish going througb the poles
just make sure to charge the wrench in the same way i did so it lasts powered up all the way through
any streams
yes they have water

im doing low% challenge if you want to watch that
seems good
alright hold on
also idk if ts actually low% cause i accidentally picked up a schematic an idk if those count
yeah the last one is when shes pretty low on health
you might have just outdps'd her
i think she started the grab and died
thats nice
it'd be cool if we could replicate it
cause the grab animation takes forever
i just fought her like the gamer i am
insane
this will not be forgotten
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/384146478354137091/537408577015644162/unknown.png
56 i luv youuuuu
56 i want you to dieeeeee
same but me
You know what sucks
giving people the link to modinstaller instead of telling them to come to discord doesn't work because crap defender tells them it's a virus
are you calling it crap defender because you think modinstaller is crap
sigh
windows defender: the antivirus software every windows computer has that sucks
aka crap defender
if i throw the computer against a wall does it still have windows defender
If it's windows, then sadly yes

If you have a Windows PC in front of a window and it stops a Windows PC with Windows defender on it from hitting the window, is that PC with Windows defender on it a Windows defender?
what stops the windows pc from hitting the window?
the other windows pc
how many windows would windows defender defend if windows defender could defend windows
0
more like windows dead er
Hi all, I have a question to mod devs, not sure if this is the correct channel.
?
I have been working on a mod manager for another game and have been finding the repo for HK mod to be an invaluable resource. But I had some question about the code itself.
@copper nacelle

Well I will ask it anyways, maybe someone will see it: I was wondering why the devs packaged the original assembly with MMHOOK dll, since they create their own delegates and events anyways. Is it just to give that option to the mod developers in case they find the API hooks restrictive?
yeah, I don't want to ping anyone, maybe they will see it eventually and reply
Hopefully he comes back from committing die and reply
yes 56 is definitely the only person that could possibly answer these questions
@cunning lagoon
Both kinds of hooks are useful
yeah i figured
thorium i believe but i have it enabled
I can see them being useful, it's just a matter of whether or not you would want to give that degree of freedom to the modders I guess
The mods already run unrestricted C# without monomod hooks
Not like there's any more harm in it
Just don't run mods you don't trust
I am modding a game called Yo Noid 2 and honestly the code is bit of a clusterf**k. I can see exposing more hooks doing more harm than good. But I suppose you are right
Also, you guys wouldn't mind if I just ported over the Canvas and Console bits from your repo, would you? I know very little Unity and reading your repo has been real helpful so far.
The API is MIT licensed
Oh, that's fine then. Also I find it interesting that HK Modding API uses dynamicInvoke heavily. Does that not bog down performance with a lot of mods?
Not sure if there are any downsides to using non-reflection counterpart since types are known in advance.
Lol
If anything the game runs better with the API
In the base game any access to any variable at all in the player class uses uncached reflection
We fixed that for obvious reasons
I was surprised to see those set... hooks in player class, it makes sense now.
Yeah, side effect of the game being almost entirely playmaker
They can't access variables directly without hard coding it in the actions
So we've got get/set by name functions to deal with
Ok, at least I won't have that issue. I will have to look up PlayerMaker (not too knowledgeable with Unity). I was originally making mods on JIT'd code but it started to become real troublesome doing everything at asm level.
This is certainly easier. Anyways, thank you so much for all the explanations. Really appreciate it!
Yeah, I didn't know much about Cecil in general and certainly wasn't aware of Monomod. Doing it the only way I knew how was asm. Definitely a terrible idea in hindsight lol
tldw
the game is good
his voice is cool i just used it for 13 minutes of bg noise
it is
Hey sean are you gonna stream today
did you submit your run
he describes MC as mute and then instantly chooses dialogue options 
explain this deep lore thank
Wait isn't Noid
Oh no
Runner introduction starts at 00:20. Run starts at 1:21. This speedrun was recorded live at Summer Games Done Quick 2018, a weeklong charity speedrun maratho...
Goof tier

wow forget that hollow knight run this is way better
seriously how do dialogue options exist if she cant talk
this is bothering me a lot
have you played pokemon
I dont think she id actually mute
he made like a whole point about how her being mute in the lore is a big deal
Pretty sure its like pokemon and zelds ames where the mc is not mute bit we dont see them talk
Or some shit
To the best of my knowledge robin is not a mute person
"She's allowed to display fear, sadness, happiness in pantomimes, in a way that's surprisingly more enchanting than if she'd been given dialogue"
literally chooses a dialogue option
2 seconds later
does this guy not understand that that counts as dialogue
bad review 0/10
finnish man hates everything
This
cannon
Yes she has a gun
She may aswell have a cannon
It shoots bombs already anyway
And is strong enough to kill gods
wow spoilers
"a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity."
I'd put the starworm above humans
And it's definitely worshipped as having power
He doesnt really havebsny power its just a machine
It has enough power to punch the fuck out of royal I can tell you that much
It also doesn't matter if it does or not
Everyone has enough power to del that
All that matters is that it is worshipped as such
It pretty much does according to the definition of the word
Well the definitiln is wrl g
I'm assuming wrl g = wrong
Same
Yea
And I agree
That definition includes gods but not everything that fits inside of it would be one
It's too broad
Define god
That but actually having power, not just worshipped as such
Is Mother a god then
Is Royal a god
They both have power over their nature
And have transcended beyond humans
They don't really have power though
They're just people who fucked with alien technology they don't understand and got lucky enough to not die
They're still able to sprout flowers and move things remotely
Even if they're cubed flowers
They can also heal any wound that is inflicted on their own body
Even if all of it is just ivory use it's still power
It's not god levels of power though at all
Like you said they just have power over ivory
The more they use their power the weaker it gets from lack of ivory
And get them in a room of detritus and they're useless
This is because you're thinking of an omnipotent god though
Most of the polytheistic religion gods also only have powers over a single thing
And have weaknesses
Ok but when you think god you don't think some fool who can move blocks
I don't, the Iconoclasts people do
X
They think the starworm made the world and is coming back for judgement afaik
I do not see how
The birds did make the planet
And are coming back because Omega Wheel told them that Royal fucked it up
If the argument is that Bird is not the worm then yeah I guess
Robin still kills bird
They didn't make the people or plan for the people or anything
It's basically a fucking gas station
Vengeance?
It's coming back to fix broken machines
The bird is a mechanic
Hence the giant wrench
This is true
why do you kill bird if it's trying to fix shit
Collateral damage of fixing the planet would be killing everyone on it
Oh
That's what the rocket is for
So the big wigs can escape to the moon if this happens
Because they know the religion is a farce
No what
I mean yeah it's for escape but it's because they do believe
The starworm is coming to kill everyone and they don't wanna be in the planet when he does
iconoclasts playthrough: First Agent Black boss fight. Join renegade mechanic Robin and uncover the secrets of a dying planet. Explore a big world filled wit...
This dialogue
Even the suits see Royal as divine
The dialogues in this room too
Especially Shard's
I still don't fucking know who the guy on the table is
Oh I didn't even remember that the area dudes were in that room
Do you know who the desk guy is
Like I really do not know
Blockrock is a girl, Ferrier, Shard, Glass and Darlands are there and alive
I doubt Isilugar is a suit? But maybe?
Dunno
heresy
well, HK's story is pretty bad imo
i mean, i agree that it gets too cryptic but i found that its pretty interesting at most of the time, i mean nothing is more inspiring than a genocidal parent amirite
inorite
what I mean is
what kept me moving forward in the game wasn't the character's motivations or wanting to know the next plot twist or anything like that
I just wanted to explore
not that every game MUST have a compelling story
I'm just saying it doesn't
same actually, i personally liked the story but my motivation was going around the map, and i didnt really understand the story until AFTER i had to watch a 50 minute lore video around it
but during that i didnt understand jack shit about the story nor was it my main motivation to keep playing
this
contrary to, say, Nier Automata, where, for me at least, the story got me moving forward just as much as the combat and exploration
and Iconoclasts, to a certain degree
i personally find story >>> gameplay in terms of priority, theres several games that i couldve bought but didnt because while the gameplay was good the story was as engaging as a painting a brick for 15 hours straight, tho with a few exceptions
if story is so important why are they called games and not interactive stories Kappa
w a l k i n g s i m u l a t o r s
I honestly like some interactive stories
What Remains of Edith Finch is pretty good
Brothers - A Tale of Two Sons, The Stanley Parable, Beginner's Guide
actually now that i think about it while i like a good story, i dont like walking sims but Stanley Parable is a goddamn good exception
because of how interactive it is
most walking sims are just the game equivalent of a text wall
you don't get to experience the story or interact with it, you just see it happening
i changed the brush to a smoother one . so left one is before right one is after . did that looked better ?
definitely, this looks really good
looks great
@hollow pier https://i.imgur.com/fjElNUc.mp4 TAS cutscene skip
thanks
i have finally found the perfect brush settings now its time to re colour all these sprites....
i highly recommend using magic wand for the cloak
highly recommend select color range
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yw
select color range is even better
In Adobe Photoshop, learn how to select a specified color or color range within an existing selection or an entire image. You'll also learn how to use the Color Range command to save skin tone settings or later use.
thanks dude this will definitly speed up the proccess
does that actually work properly
like not select random other stuff that happens to be around the same colour
ever heard of fuzziness slider
no
ok
it was a genuine question
yeah but that's not gonna help with the lines they have to draw on the knight's mask
just replacing a color takes like 10 seconds
yes but stll speeds up the proccess
i mean that depends how good you wanna have the colour replacement to look
though ive never actually fiddled with this colour range stuff so maybe its easier than i think
wait so photoshop has a way to automatically add these?
no
for most of it you could probably just apply a filter to the whole sheet since the black/white parts won't really be affected
if ur lazy
Well that's exactly what I meant
you can't skip that part
and it's that part which makes the process so long
yeah but we were talking about cloak color 
I wasn't
yeah they have too similar color
or violet
yes i just had problems using it
you can modify each colour separately in some softwares i think
like blues greens yellows that kind of thing
but if the cloak colour and the nail colour are still too close in terms of shade i guess theyll both still be affected
Yeah there's no way around it
expect that if you could ONLY select a single RGB hex code for the color to replace
you could get results
So, who else has sprite sheets they've made that would like them added to the drive page?
and then do that for all the cloak shades
wtf custom knight doesnt have shape of unn sheets
blasphemy
mine is finn exclusive u aint gettin that shit mick
wait, why does the knight page in custom knight look so different from the one in texture2d
was it changed in lifeblood or something
We should start distributing these knight reskins from loot boxes


added shit to make claw needed things possible
oh wow isnt that like a lot of things
post who song
it was brought up a while back
not sure if he ended up fixing it
and claw enables most items but there aren't thaat many that actually require it
any icono streams


:insertnitroemote:

๐ฆ nitro is dead ๐ฆ
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incredible
uh
she just ended
this guy is pretty bad at osu
oh so that's what osu is
yeah
how do you play that on mouse do you just break your wrist
lets fucking go
yeah
ah

most people will tell you that tablet is better but mouse vs tablet is like keyboard +vs controller

its really just preference
blessed server
what about with dpad
rewatch the latest bingo race
just wait until there are 6 streams that you want to watch but you can't watch them all
dont really like not watching things live
what about dead
yeah me you and sean
rofl
we're talking twitch size, not physical size, pete
oof
dang
but i am underweight
at least 5 feet tall

get a 30cm ruler and measure
stop hacking
Royal
A
Royal
Awake, me
same
its usually just awake for me
or awake,
rarely do i get better than that
impossible cutscene
same
whats that
on today's what
oh yeah its the anniversary of the icono release thing
i guess its on sale because of it
good
means more runners
so is robin legal now
Every day a new game on sale bois
@solar jacinth
uh, I only have enough money for either rain world or icono, hmm
Icono imo
icono
RW is meh at best
sean are mother's big rock attacks scripted
you mean the 4 usurper into bomb
yea
she always does that after a stagger
also, pewdiepie is gaining on t-series 
ah i see
i think the only thing she can do before it is the jump towards you
then she'll always do it
dude b1 might be the second most consistent boss in the run
and thats only because controller exists
b1 
i mean if you miss the rocket
no rng at all though
but it's your fault probably
probably w4 too
i dont think you can lose time as long as you time the rocket properly
which i missed in my pb btw
no i think he can do something in phase 2 that makes it not kill
but you wrench anyways to kill
yeah worst case scenario he dies in like 2 wrench hits after the rocket
????
same

use seeds
same
acrid is live
same
i did remember to go for the free darland one
insane
before the long slopeboost room
ah yes i will surely remember this one
just make a roll cancel guide
cancels in the same spot
with clips of all of them
same
but unironically
hmmm
you can beat this cycle after coming up
pretty tight
jump off the ladder and land on the higher bit
using the fall off of that buffer a fast crawl
right
barely makes it before he shoots
You don't need an edge cancel to beat that
i dont think he meant edge cancel for this
just jump there walk off and fast crawl
yeah there's no cancel in this room
what was the modding api called again?
wdym
like the program name
modinstaller?
could be
but if you run the programme, with that zote head, what is that programme called?
ModInstaller
I can't
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do i stream roll cancels
you can yell at me if you see a potential one too
probably good for clips as well
This videogame is impossible
2 votes and 3 comments so far on Reddit
This dude shit talking keyboard controls
Hallowknight huh
How do u feel kurosh
Also.... He worded it as if the game itself has bad controls
Lol
heya, would anyone mind helping me with debugmod/mods in general?
well he's obviously right i don't know what kind of madman would dare play this game on keyboard
even the devs suggest play on controller
use installer
it truly must be the optimal way to play
also gamepad>>>>>>>little houses made of mud>>>>>>keyboard
i installed the mods fine, I just don't know if DM can do a thing i need it to do
basically after getting rekt by radiance I'd like to respawn at the beginning of the radiance fight
because I'm getting sick of facetanking HK
I went to run the mod installer yesterday and it threw up an error at me actually. Something about .net framework. I guess I'll reinstall it but I didn't touch anything since last time.
there's no mod to change that, lucid
oh, too bad :/
you can use debug mod and give yourself a shit ton of dmg tho i suppose
but you'd have to press a button like.... 200 times
and then 200 times again to reduce dmg
there used to be a mod for that but it has not been updated for cp
32
alright, guess i gotta go dig for the right value to change
I actually thought about a HoG version of normal rad so ppl could fight her one her own but I never said anything to TC I assume they thought about it and decided against it.
thx anyway
yeah it'd be col to give absrad a dnail thingy like nkg has
Yeah exactly
@copper nacelle ^^ for qol
Is there a stream somewhere of the completionist doing PoH with all binds?
He just glosses over it quickly in the video and that's what I wanted to watch the most
self harm is against twitch TOS, graig
@young walrus I watched the AGDQ run again yesterday. All of You guys couch commentary was amazing
damn straight it was
Had me laughing every time. Was a great run too.
The fucking alarm is my favorite part
I dunno if you can really hear it on stream all that well
but it was so loud on the couch
what alarm?
The guy sitting next to me had an alarm go off on his phone
in the middle of the run
Lol yer that was amazing
U can hear it on stream
Everyone on the couch completely unapologetic about any distractions to the runner
Hahahaha
Good.
Graig he didn't do all binds at once
But you don't need to do them at the same time for them to glow afaik
yeah you do
U sure?
yes
yes
Ok then
btw can custom knight change spells?
yeah
alright 
most if not all of the spritesheets change how the spells look
What happens when you only do certain binds then?
they have a more bronzeish look
this is the recolour i went with
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