archived-modding-development

[silk jetty]

@floral furnace you're my dad now

[floral furnace]

Uhhh, thats, great!??!?!

[silk jetty]

oh god oh fuck

[cunning lagoon]

@floral furnace you're my dad now

[floral furnace]

where is this coming from

[cunning lagoon]

spain

[floral furnace]

I see

[silk jetty]

^

fuck

[warped sinew]

eh i cant stream till the weekend cos i have IRL things i have to do 😦

but I just bought the game

im keen to play it

@cunning lagoon

[silk jetty]

don't noot me 56, you bitch

[cunning lagoon]

nice nice

im keen to see you play it

[warped sinew]

im going in totally blind so will be funny

[silk jetty]

oh god oh fuck

[cunning lagoon]

[warped sinew]

well i say totally blind but i learned like 2 speedrun tricks already so... lol

[floral furnace]

is this 🅱conoclast?

[copper nacelle]

yes

[floral furnace]

i see

[silk jetty]

no, it's eroico

[cunning lagoon]

converting the whole hk community to icono

[weary oyster]

graig if you like precision platforming with high amounts of inputs and tech you should try eroico

[silk jetty]

lol

[weary oyster]

unironically

[warped sinew]

oh ? ok ill check it out also

[floral furnace]

rip

[silk jetty]

watch out, it's porn game

but with porn disabler

[warped sinew]

im an ex street fighter "pro" (back in my day there wern't really pro players but I was very good)

so i love lots of input, fast twitch stuff

[weary oyster]

https://youtu.be/ggsZXSw6srI

[warped sinew]

yeah that looks great!

ok let me just add that to the list

[cunning lagoon]

where is this speedrun fgrom??? ... i cant see the game on speedrun dot com

[silk jetty]

if only fuckboosting wasn't a thing, then speedruns would be able to be monotized and shit

[cunning lagoon]

what is fuckboosting

you mean boost abuse?

[warped sinew]

fuckboosting lol

[weary oyster]

we had to rename it to boost chances of getting to src/esa

great loss

[silk jetty]

ah

k

[cunning lagoon]

it's still fuckboosting in our hearts

[warped sinew]

call it FB

and never tell them why

[silk jetty]

^

[weary oyster]

genius

[cunning lagoon]

in the end the name change didn't matter because ax still hasn't resubmitted to srcom 😃

[weary oyster]

i can foresee no way this plan would fail to a single question

[warped sinew]

" i dont know"

the worlds greatest answer

[solemn rivet]

Wait - ax runs eroico?!

buys the game on steam instantly

[weary oyster]

dude im literally the reason people know the game exists

[silk jetty]

yeah, you pressured me into buying it

[weary oyster]

hmm

[silk jetty]

I've opened the game once

actually, I think it was kurosh that pressured me

but still

[weary oyster]

probably

[cunning lagoon]

lmao this guy

buying the game instead of just asking ax to buy it for him

suboptimal

[silk jetty]

I was 3 cents short of icono

[weary oyster]

tfw 1 person has submitted a run of the 4 people ive bought the game for on the premise they submit a run

[cunning lagoon]

thats a better success rate than me

i bought it for one person and they apparently did not enjoy it

[silk jetty]

f

[weary oyster]

wait you did?

[cunning lagoon]

yea

[silk jetty]

who?

[weary oyster]

was it that irl friend

[cunning lagoon]

not irl but he's not from this community

[silk jetty]

ah, gay

[weary oyster]

basically same thing

just as distant to me

[cunning lagoon]

same

[silk jetty]

finch doesn't have eroico

[cunning lagoon]

you should still give it a shot

im assuming you didnt even finish your casual playthrough

it gets better when you get the hang of the controls and the tech and start running it

[silk jetty]

I'll probably play it more eventually

but I still have to finish ds3, subnautica, and super meat boy

[solemn rivet]

But it for me dlk, I'll play it

👀

[cunning lagoon]

is it less than 7.40€ now

[solemn rivet]

Idk

[cunning lagoon]

promise me you'll run it

[solemn rivet]

I'll run the exe sure

[cunning lagoon]

your loss

you are missing out on a good game to speedrun

[solemn rivet]

I mean

I can't promise I'll run it till I play it

what if I hate the thing?

[cunning lagoon]

ok

i better see you doing runs soon

or im gonna be pissed

[solemn rivet]

OwO what's this?

ty dlk

I mean it

[cunning lagoon]

[silk jetty]

okay now don't run it

56, stop hiding in reactions

fuck u

nein du

thanks for that

?whois

[autumn shard]

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@silk jetty

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ID: 321767892733657108 · Jan 15, 2019, 1:04 PM

[silk jetty]

joined 2 days ago

[dusky lion]

Yes Adrain i don't have eroico

I might buy it it looks marginally fun

That and icono

[cunning lagoon]

finch has been converted

[solemn rivet]

one of us one of us

[flat forum]

this place

why

why

sobbing

[hollow pier]

wait 16k members

hmmmm

[cunning lagoon]

getting close to that 69k

nvm

[vivid crag]

Pop mod when

With pv at the end

Pls

[ornate rivet]

too easy

[vivid crag]

I want more platforming challenges in hk

[ornate rivet]

pop 2 mod when nes fixes the level editor

[vivid crag]

[brazen mortar]

I need this link thanks!

[vivid crag]

I want a mod with no focus

And can't heal from benches or anything else

You get 1 hp back/1 more (if you haven't got hit) per 4 shards

And you get 1 more if you buy fragile hearth

the focus charms work but don't heal

I mean you can use sporeshroom

And lb charms are deleted

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[vivid crag]

Do it

[solemn rivet]

u do it

[cunning lagoon]

no

[vivid crag]

I don't know shit about programming

[solemn rivet]

neither did I when I made blackmoth

[vivid crag]

Ifni knew i would do that

[solemn rivet]

but I still went and made it

[cunning lagoon]

ah yes the good old im the idea guy and you do all the work for me

a classic

[hollow pier]

hey what if you could skip omega controller

[cunning lagoon]

There would be no more omega controller deaths

Thatd be neat

[hollow pier]

i wouldn't be surprised if the break was frame perfect

another frame perfect boss skip feelsgoodman

[cunning lagoon]

Nice nice

My favvourite kind of boss skip

[dusky lion]

What about

Inpossiblw boss skips

Thanks autocorrect doing your job well

[vivid crag]

Is thk damaged by his stabs

If so, how much?

[brazen mortar]

reduces to 1 damage

to themselves?

nothing

i think

i just checked thk's hp the other day and i dont recall them dealing damage to themselves when stabbing themselves

[rain cedar]

@copper nacelle help

why il hook

I want a normal one

There's no normal hooks in this type wtf

[copper nacelle]

Nice

Just make a new hook from the hook constructor and the method infos

[rain cedar]

I guess that's a better solution than using the il hook

Since that will no doubt break later because this shouldn't be an il hook

Idk how to do that though

Where does the Hook class come from?

It doesn't exist

All this and it still doesn't know what it is

@copper nacelle

Incredible I missed one namespace and that's where it was

[fair rampart]

Bonfire mod saves stats on the file when i Uninstall it or i should think about respecing with rancid egg?

[solemn rivet]

it has its own files, and idk if steam saves those

better respec just in case

[idle sequoia]

I have an okay amount of know how on where i am going

[fair rampart]

ye

[solemn rivet]

u play on hard?

[idle sequoia]

Me casual

[fair rampart]

I would just play on easy

[solemn rivet]

reee

[fair rampart]

or custom

[solemn rivet]

[idle sequoia]

I have done 111% cause fuck the final pantheons and their busted ass movesets.

[fair rampart]

custom enable skips that you can do easily

[idle sequoia]

I have done steel soul

[fair rampart]

p4 isn't bad

p5 isn't even %

[idle sequoia]

Oh it isnt? o:

[ornate rivet]

sigh

[fair rampart]

nope

[idle sequoia]

Enemy randomizer was big fun though

First room, big golden bug that drops geo. Second room with the basic flys? ALL GIANT BEES

[fair rampart]

oh, I just remembered you didn't know what NoHardSaves did, did you figure out what it did?

[idle sequoia]

I did not

[fair rampart]

it removes hard saves other than the ones made at benches

hard saves save your progress AND location

[idle sequoia]

Aaaaahhhh okay

[fair rampart]

so you will respawn where you hard save

like picking up desolate dive

creates a hard save

[idle sequoia]

I was curious as to why it was in QoL cause it sounded like a nerf? But explained, that certainly sounds better.

[fair rampart]

also you could get locked in the abyss in item randomizer if you got shade cloak without mantis claw

before

[idle sequoia]

There was one thing i was majorly confused on

[fair rampart]

because the wall at the abyss entrance is too tall to reach the transition without claw

[idle sequoia]

With randomizer 2, the whole skips section.

And like.. all bosses all charms? Does that mean i need to collect all of them or beat all of them to finish?

[fair rampart]

the black egg will be locked until all bosses etc are done if enabled

[idle sequoia]

Understandable

You can make it REALLY difficult sheesh

[fair rampart]

mag skips require an absurd level of precision to pull off
shade skips are where you die, and use your shade to pogo up to an area
acid skips are where you use cheart or something to bypass acid instead of isma's

salubra notches automatically unlocks notches when charm count reaches the requisite amount for that notch to be bought, without having to return to salubra each time and buy them
lemm sell all lets you sell all relics at once by talking to Lemm from behind the counter

[idle sequoia]

Big thanks for all the explanations by the way.

I really appreciate your time

[fair rampart]

spike tunnel skips are when you pogo thru spike tunnels with spell buffering

example of spike tunnel skip

https://youtu.be/n2het8j9bO0

[idle sequoia]

I had a solid idea of shade, acid, and spike skips.

But i have never even heard of mag skips

[fair rampart]

mag skips are stupid hard

named after magolor, who made the above vid

he tried to find all the possible ways to reach places without normal upgrades needed

[idle sequoia]

That doesn't look too rough. Probably a lot more precise than it seems

[fair rampart]

this one isn't a mag skip

[idle sequoia]

Yeah yeah

[fair rampart]

mag skip is like, getting thorns of agony without dash

or wings

[idle sequoia]

(puke)

[fair rampart]

or heart

https://clips.twitch.tv/DelightfulAntediluvianSushiJKanStyle

this is a shade skip

[idle sequoia]

Yeah shade skips are easy to understand

[fair rampart]

this one is hard tho

[idle sequoia]

Oh yeah sheesh

Clap

[fair rampart]

from the agdq event

[idle sequoia]

Love agdq

This has been a very nice learning experience for me

I intend on trying blackmoth again, lightbringer, and then randomizers.

[fair rampart]

yw

[idle sequoia]

Both enemy and item.

Maybe not at the same time though

[fair rampart]

one bug is that shade siblings that spawn in challenge rooms don't truly die

they are recycled

[idle sequoia]

Cause you can take it so far. You can mix and match mods for fun outcomes.

[fair rampart]

so the challenge rooms that spawn them won't open

[idle sequoia]

Or broken outcomes

[fair rampart]

shade siblings should be blacklisted from challenges tbh

also PoP is impossible with enemy rando

just putting that out there

[idle sequoia]

Yeah cause itll get rid of those bois you need to pogo on

[fair rampart]

yup

[idle sequoia]

Ive done PoP a few times. Love the theme

[fair rampart]

for some reason enemy rando gets more broken with each update

the crawlers used to work

since lifeblood they don't

also zote doesn't spawn anymore

[idle sequoia]

Oh those fellas from deepnest?

[fair rampart]

crawlers as in any crawling enemy type

[idle sequoia]

Oh okay

[fair rampart]

like crawlids, tiki tiks, etc

kingsmoulds also don't spawn

[idle sequoia]

Mods shrugs

Gotta eat some dinner and head to work. Big thanks again

[fair rampart]

[idle sequoia]

Perhaps i will give bonfire another shot understanding the scaling as well

[ornate rivet]

If I change the sprites of a clone of a gameobject, does that affect the sprites of the original gameobject too?

@copper nacelle

[fair rampart]

that...

is a good question

[copper nacelle]

Depends

Tk2dSprites yeah

[ornate rivet]

not spriterender?

correct?

[copper nacelle]

SpriteRenders usually no but sometimes they say fuck you and do it anyways

[ornate rivet]

sigh

[copper nacelle]

e.g lost kin balloons

[ornate rivet]

I was going to be lazy but I guess I wont

[solemn rivet]

so

[copper nacelle]

you have to change it back to normal ~6 times before it works

[solemn rivet]

Good Code™?

[copper nacelle]

So I leave the hook until the change applies

Autocorrect can die

I imagine it's due to the object pool

[ornate rivet]

thanks

[dusky lion]

Autocorrect is a blessing and a curse

[fair rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/god-damn-mother-fucker-bitch-gif-7955290

this... was not the gif I meant to send

[copper nacelle]

hmmmm

this is why you don't use gifs

cancer

♋

[ornate rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-wide-eye-kids-what-confused-gif-5649338

[copper nacelle]

no

[ornate rivet]

this... was not the gif I meant to send

bookmarking it for later though

[copper nacelle]

using gifs

[ornate rivet]

gifs are godly

[copper nacelle]

no

[ornate rivet]

I wish they were smaller though

[copper nacelle]

Same

About

[ornate rivet]

so benji wouldn't kill you

[copper nacelle]

0px x 0px

stop

Cease

[ornate rivet]

but I'm not spamming them (place thinking baby gif here)

[mortal trout]

gifs gay

[cold wave]

Hello every1, new bug here!

[solemn rivet]

is this a bug report?

visibly shaken

[cold wave]

Just a quick question, is there any mod or anything that would let me save my position and restart from there? I enjoy hard bosses and almost everything about this game, but the backtracking kills me

no, I'm the bug

[solemn rivet]

not really, no

[rain cedar]

Dream gate

[cold wave]

just a lore joke 😄

[solemn rivet]

but the debug mod allows you to dgate

don't let dlk see that

he might just snap

[ornate rivet]

you can get dream gates in regular game too but yes debug mod would let you cheat to get them earlier

[solemn rivet]

not only that

but you can place them at will

[ornate rivet]

yea

[solemn rivet]

at no essence cost

[cold wave]

alright, so there IS a teleport item

[ornate rivet]

yes

you get it at 900 essence

[cold wave]

great, that's actually all I needed to hear

[solemn rivet]

well

nvm

[ornate rivet]

good luck need a gif for this

[cold wave]

I'm at 700 and I swear that traitor lord is going to taste my nail

thanks ❤

I just snapped a bit from having to backtrack for half of the queen's gardens every time I got rekt(a lot)

[solemn rivet]

does non-godhome TL have those shockwave attacks?

[ornate rivet]

yes

[solemn rivet]

nice

[cold wave]

I believe they were added in Lifeblood

[solemn rivet]

o

dunno, I mostly play rando

no need to go there anymore

[ornate rivet]

how hard would it be to recreate the way platforms are placed in ToF

[rain cedar]

Probably pretty easy if you steal them from colo

[ornate rivet]

ok I'll see if I can

so theoretically speaking, all I have to do is clone and spawn one of these gameobjects

and fix the positioning

[rain cedar]

Chances are you'll have to send it events for appear/disappear

But yeah

[ornate rivet]

having to manually send the events to make them appear/disappear is actually good so yay

[native wing]

something something maker

[ornate rivet]

why am I using think emote when I can use a gif?

[native wing]

Very good Very good

[fair rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/think-emoji-thinkemoji-gif-8083088

why use a gif or an emote, when you can use a gif OF an emote

[leaden hedge]

Because you're too poor for nitro

But really want to use shitty emotes

[fair rampart]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460563537308418049/534843873164263424/emote.gif

[hollow pier]

[mortal trout]

[dusky lion]

[blissful ibex]

Any chance for interesting global mod ?

[rain cedar]

http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

[blissful ibex]

i need to read more than 5000 msg before i asked oooookay

[rain cedar]

The main problem is your question doesn't make sense

I don't know if you've failed at searching for something because I don't know what you want

[leaden hedge]

he wants an interesting global mod

don't you understand those words

[cunning lagoon]

Will there be a liw% stream today

[solemn rivet]

do I dare ask...

what's a global mod?

[fair rampart]

a mod that's global

thanks for clearing that up

[hollow pier]

https://youtu.be/N9irxUq2M8o any ideas

no dboosts

[copper nacelle]

sorry you'll have to go a bit slower if you want to be as slow as sean was yesterday

[hollow pier]

sean was just using dboost strats

[copper nacelle]

urite

[rain cedar]

I labbed that a bit earlier and I like what I came up with better

I can make a video in a bit

[copper nacelle]

[hollow pier]

https://youtu.be/E9RnWSTLl0E insane and free edge cancel

[fair rampart]

(not clickbait)

[blissful burrow]

Any icono stream

[hollow pier]

ok you don't need to grab the rails before gunboosts in my strat

the second one is pretty precise

insane meme

if you gunboost and move into the top of a bat it gets cancelled and you jump on the bat

[ornate rivet]

best run of agdq
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2n57wkyt6I

[dusky lion]

oh fuck virtual hylide

thats like speedrunning E.T for the Atari

[rain cedar]

@hollow pier https://youtu.be/kZaQnuKF9VU

[hollow pier]

hmm

good bat optimization

[weak lodge]

It looked p good

[silk jetty]

hey, yall dipshits, do any of you know why tf mod installer closes immediately when I open it

[hollow pier]

[silk jetty]

[fair rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/525087904293322770.png?v=1

[mortal trout]

[fair rampart]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460563537308418049/534843873164263424/emote.gif

[cunning lagoon]

sean goes for bat killboosts

oh what discord didnt scroll down

[hollow pier]

what the fuck did i just do

you can shoot super bombs?

is this a frame perfect charge release

[cunning lagoon]

any bbt

or sean stream

[hollow pier]

sadly neither

[cunning lagoon]

dead game

[leaden hedge]

get a titty streamer to play it

[cunning lagoon]

ok

who here is very fat

[dusky lion]

thats where the views are at

[stable smelt]

wait is crossroads out of date?

[cunning lagoon]

[dusky lion]

im terribly underweight so i think i fit the bill kurosh

[leaden hedge]

im very thin

[cunning lagoon]

same

pete u fat

[hollow pier]

no

[cunning lagoon]

shit

[hollow pier]

eat 500 burgers to save icono

worth

[dusky lion]

we must combine as one

[leaden hedge]

theres cheaper ways to get titties

and better titties

[dusky lion]

estrogen pills?

[leaden hedge]

you mean titty skittles

[cunning lagoon]

i practiced ash yesterday so hopefully i wont get more 6cycles

[stable smelt]

o

[leaden hedge]

only has minor side effects like losing pp function

worth to be a titty streamer that will save iconoclasts though

[cunning lagoon]

i dont even need my pp anyway

[leaden hedge]

you won't lose it

you'll just be sterile

[cunning lagoon]

ah then im not interested

[leaden hedge]

maybe if you got icono wr you could use it

[cunning lagoon]

is sean fat

[dusky lion]

save your sperm now for future use

[cunning lagoon]

he already has wr so he'd just need tits

[leaden hedge]

i know the womyn love icono wr holders

i dont think the horny teenage boys watch man tits

[cunning lagoon]

fuck

what if they are really big

[leaden hedge]

then you're watching greekgodx

[cunning lagoon]

well that'd definitely resurrect icono

[fair rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-bread-boobs-gif-4736054

[hollow pier]

same

[cunning lagoon]

b-be careful robin you are going to drown

pete do ruins

[ornate rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/poop-shit-diarrhea-ice-cream-soft-serve-gif-4971272

[dusky lion]

tenor

[cunning lagoon]

that's oddly satisfying to watch

[fair rampart]

2721 needs to die

[leaden hedge]

posting gifs needs to die

[cunning lagoon]

hey we still got a long way to go before we reach 2721

[fair rampart]

but it's protected so it can't

we live in a world where a self-insert transgender homestuck blogger conjoined twin satellite can be accepted as an official SCP, and get protected, preventing it from being neutralized by people who actually recognize that it's bad.

[cunning lagoon]

ok

i can't believe my good friend Finch Meister would tell me to drink milk

[dusky lion]

You need the calcium

to grow up big and strong

[cunning lagoon]

ok i shall drink it

[dusky lion]

very nice

[hollow pier]

i am eating

[cunning lagoon]

yummy

[ornate rivet]

wtf is 2721 and scp

[dusky lion]

remember when that emoji was named cum

[fair rampart]

cummies in kurosh's tummy

[cunning lagoon]

was named what??

i would NEVER name an emote that

not in my christian servers

[fair rampart]

nice underline

[cunning lagoon]

ah yes thank you i had not seen my message before

[marble scarab]

milk is the drink of the gods

[dusky lion]

[fair rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/no-fuck-you-mad-mean-angry-gif-5685671

[dusky lion]

no-fuck-you-mad-mean-angry-gif

[cunning lagoon]

nice photoshop

🥒

[dusky lion]

evolved

[fair rampart]

🥒

Congratulation! Your CUCUMBER evolved into PICKLE!

[dusky lion]

[cunning lagoon]

this

[dusky lion]

i will buy it mayb

e

[leaden hedge]

eroico sucks

[fair rampart]

🇪

[dusky lion]

so is it every time you die you are thrust into sex scene

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[dusky lion]

[fair rampart]

you can disable it

[leaden hedge]

does irl work like that

can i get the rope and sex

[cunning lagoon]

you shouldnt disable it*

yeah kdt just let some catgirl beat you to death and then she'll rape you

[leaden hedge]

ez

[dusky lion]

[leaden hedge]

is h scenes faster or slower

[fair rampart]

succ faster

https://tenor.com/view/yousuck-gif-7276621

🇼

[mortal trout]

wtf

[ornate rivet]

tbh that was terrifying

[cunning lagoon]

having h scenes on is faster but you dont actually see any of them

it just lets you use a piece of tech that happens ot be very useful

basically iframes on demand

[hollow pier]

why is nfb not just any% sfw

nutty cat name

[cunning lagoon]

thats a pretty good idea

but whats nfb i only know nba

[hollow pier]

same

@copper nacelle delete

oh okay

[cunning lagoon]

[mortal trout]

[dusky lion]

the plan is to buy iconoclasts and then buy eroico when the entirety of my backlog is finished

[fair rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/think-thinking-confused-gif-8394048

[hollow pier]

the joke is on you because he is on do not disturb so he does not notice pings!!

[cunning lagoon]

i've been missing the free tower rocket lately

[hollow pier]

stop doing that

[cunning lagoon]

i think i subconsciously changed my cue or something and now i dont get it

[hollow pier]

any puzzle blocks

[cunning lagoon]

wdym

[hollow pier]

puzzle blocks > computers

[dusky lion]

handsome

[cunning lagoon]

yeah those could be good too

i might try it for a bit later

[hollow pier]

luckily there is a new save file at that exact location

[cunning lagoon]

[marble scarab]

eroico

more like, lag

[barren trellis]

Hey guys im new to running randomizers, i have a question. Does the rando assume some level of knowing how to do certain things? The files ive tried to run so far i get soft locked behind skills i havent been able to master fully like MOP baulder or Spire Pogo. Sorry if this is the wrong place!

[fair rampart]

yes

[marble scarab]

yeah it's only for hardcore hk gamers

[solemn rivet]

hard mode requires some knowledge

easy not so much

[barren trellis]

ok thanks! it just means i need to practice these. Ive hit them a few times but not with any consistency! Otherwise its been pretty fun going back to exploring the whole map instead of what little ive been doing for getting PB's

[weak lodge]

Wholeomenss in modding

very nice

[native wing]

yes this

[dusky lion]

this is a no wholesome zone

[silk jetty]

how do I talk to this bitch

also, why are eroico screenshots ass

and why tf am I only getting 50 fps

I have GTX 1050

oh, it's because the game is using my shitty intel uhd shit

wtf eroico

[marble scarab]

is it really laggy for you

[weary oyster]

yea you gotta crop and resize the screen

and choose point scaling to keep the quality

in obs anyway

idk about just taking screenshots that works fine for me

[silk jetty]

holy shit the chapter 3 boss is hard

oh god oh fuck, I have more than an hour in Eroico

3rd try on chapter 3 boss

[weary oyster]

rookie numbers

[silk jetty]

ah, that's it

only 3 chapters

[marble scarab]

iconoclasts

[weary oyster]

yea its not a long game

thats why its a good speed game

[floral furnace]

can you actually speedrun the game fast enough that you can still refund it

[marble scarab]

honestly why don't you just search the sex scenes

[silk jetty]

I could refund the game

I beat it with less than 2 hours

[weary oyster]

thats literally piracy

[marble scarab]

refuund it

[leaden hedge]

i can get you through deaths gambit in 30m

[silk jetty]

no, I only beat it in very easy

[marble scarab]

do you want to have a hentai game in your steam library

[leaden hedge]

all you gotta be able to do is kill the final boss with an incredibly janky setup

[silk jetty]

I need to play in an actual difficulty

[weary oyster]

nice

i think very easy respawns you at the start of rooms if you die too?

instead of at checkpoints

[silk jetty]

yep

also, do the weird light pillar things just increase range?

[weary oyster]

i have no idea tbh

theres also ones that upgrade your spells

[silk jetty]

it seemed like that was it

wait, spells

[weary oyster]

yea not sure if they give you more dmg

[silk jetty]

is that just up attack?

[weary oyster]

yea

[silk jetty]

and I didn't get any extra damage

[solemn rivet]

down attack too, if you're airborne

it's a stabbing attack that costs mp

those beams of light make the fire spell kinda spread out once it hits an enemy

[weary oyster]

wut it doesnt cost any

[solemn rivet]

doesn't it?

[weary oyster]

nah

only up attack does

[solemn rivet]

o

[weary oyster]

u can do some crazy shit with the down stab

[solemn rivet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[weary oyster]

cause theres no cooldown on it

https://youtu.be/ggsZXSw6srI?t=274

[silk jetty]

oh, theres no cooldown

huh

[solemn rivet]

is this very easy?

those bosses are dying waaay too quickly, even for down stab

[weary oyster]

yeah

its the fastest mode

[solemn rivet]

yeah, makes sense

[hollow pier]

sub7

[floral iris]

thought:

what if there was a parry nail art

[rain cedar]

Can't nail arts already parry?

[floral iris]

hold x while holding up (cyclone could be down) and when you release, you block like hornet does in her second fight, just for a few seconds (so there's some timing required). if a blade hits you during that time (or maybe any damage) you block it and get some i frames to do whatever

[rain cedar]

Oh you just mean invincibility not parries

[floral iris]

it's kinda just an easier version of the parry that's already in the game, but that version isn't very well fleshed out imo

yeah

[hollow pier]

you mean useless ddark

[floral iris]

lol yeah ok i guess so

slinks away

[warped sinew]

Parries aren't a good idea unless you design the entire game around them, they are either OP or basically useless. Its really hard to balance a system like that.

Cool downs are a good way to get around OP abilities, like shade dash but too many cool downs disrupts the flow of the game

Adding cool downs adds more strategy and takes away the action, which Is fine if that's what you're going for

[leaden hedge]

the parries would be fine in this game if at any point someone decided to actually reward you for doing it

90% of enemies can't even be parried, and the 10% you can don't even do anything if you do it

if anything you get a worse punish than just dodging

[copper nacelle]

the only time it's useful is if you do upslash parries and walk through enemies

which isn't common

like nkg uppercut parries are cool

but if you don't parry it's faster and the same thing

[cunning lagoon]

yea :p

@hollow pier i got the frame perfect inti break i hope you are proud of me

it was on an ok split too

[compact sedge]

you know what's satisfying

getting a perfect block in slain and getting to do a really high damage followup attack for it

[brazen mortar]

alright @ornate rivet heres what it looks like on the sprite sheet

and all 5 separate pieces

lemme know if you need anything!

[cunning lagoon]

@copper nacelle the cooler has been ordered

[storm bloom]

Is there any mod to show life bar on enemy?

[cunning lagoon]

look for EnemyHPBar

[river eagle]

you mean

[fair rampart]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[cunning lagoon]

no i did mean ;i

[storm bloom]

Also is there any video tutorial on how to install it. The mod installer is not working and kinda confusing

[cunning lagoon]

in what way is it not working

[warped sinew]

@cunning lagoon are you going to be awake in the next few hours?

[ornate rivet]

@brazen mortar
Big thanks

[cunning lagoon]

yea probably

[warped sinew]

i found some free time, was thinking of streaming

[cunning lagoon]

👀

[warped sinew]

like 2 hours worth

https://www.twitch.tv/graig1337/

ok lets go

[cunning lagoon]

@rain cedar wake up

[ornate rivet]

@brazen mortar
It looks great
https://youtu.be/Uw2oE7v_x6M

are the spikes supposed to look like PK's crown when they are up at the same time?

[iron crown]

are those golden fucking spikes of pure shit

[copper nacelle]

that looks sick but why does he lag teleport

[solemn rivet]

I don't want spikes of pure shit unless I'm fighting Pure Defender imo

[cunning lagoon]

[floral furnace]

Shit Shielder, Fecal Fortifier, Poop Protector

[solemn rivet]

Feces Fencer

[cunning lagoon]

nice game konjak

2 minutes in and i already broke it

[hollow pier]

can't believe graig streamed when 1/3 people could watch

[cunning lagoon]

only the most loyal graig fans were there for the fabled icono stream

i can't beat ivory springs

default controls are arrow keys and you can't change them

nice you can zip in ivory springs too

[solemn rivet]

dlk I might run eroico

how fun is Ivory Springs anyway?

[cunning lagoon]

i did not like it

[solemn rivet]

oof

[cunning lagoon]

have you considered running icono too

[solemn rivet]

I have nowhere near the required amount of time and skill to do that

[cunning lagoon]

[brazen mortar]

@ornate rivet I think you should reverse the last frame

Since well I might’ve put it backwards as well

Hard to tell from a couple of fading particles

._.

...

I can do it when I find time

[fair rampart]

funny how there is no impact or anything for dream nailing the statue

it's just

[cunning lagoon]

not with that attitude

[solemn rivet]

dlk

[cunning lagoon]

gradow

[solemn rivet]

you do know it's not christmas anymore, right?

[cunning lagoon]

i am aware

[solemn rivet]

k, just checking

[cunning lagoon]

yup thats me

[ornate rivet]

@brazen mortar
I will reverse it when I get home

@fair rampart
funny how you're not modding anything
you're just

[cunning lagoon]

he is though

[ornate rivet]

shush

[cunning lagoon]

thats what you get for bullying my good friend nathan

[brazen mortar]

@ornate rivet gotchu~

i also touched up some bits a little

[eager spindle]

@solemn rivet so what i need is to be able to make the game showcase 2 viewports

without fucking up the display or such

so a splitscreen i guess

[compact sedge]

waitasecond

this is a longshot but

is this you?????? @eager spindle

[solemn rivet]

[queen prawn]

Doma, Doma, Domadomadoma

[eager spindle]

@compact sedge n..noo..

[solemn rivet]

oh yeah, forgot we have AA as well

u sure? U don't sound too sure

[compact sedge]

if so it's ok

[eager spindle]

im confused xD

[solemn rivet]

sorry, AA

[compact sedge]

aa doesn't exist

[solemn rivet]

they asked if we knew game maker and I instantly thought of kerr and KDT

[compact sedge]

yeah well

I don't know gamemaker personally

I know godot a tiny bit

but that's it

IG unity too a little but only enough to mod

not to actually make games in

[solemn rivet]

yeah

but since they're only asking about viewports, I thought we might be able to help some

idk

[dusky lion]

hey its hornet cube

[solemn rivet]

@eager spindle hi confused, I'm Gradow

[eager spindle]

o-o

[dusky lion]

@solemn rivet hi gradow, I'm Finch

[compact sedge]

https://docs.yoyogames.com/source/dadiospice/002_reference/windows and views/views/index.html

you can just create a second viewport and it will automatically scale it it looks like

[solemn rivet]

Qerrum, so are you, or are you not the creator of hornet cube?

the people need to know

[compact sedge]

(also if you know the creator please lmk I'm a big fan of their work)

[eager spindle]

sadly nope :(

@compact sedge ye but fgor some reason my game fucks up when i try make a second one

[civic hare]

is hornet cube like time cube

[vivid crag]

Can you skip ddive with dgate

?

[ornate rivet]

why does loading one of the trials (warrior) to get one of the platforms results in an infinite knight running transition scene when I go back to the scene I should be in?
GameManager.instance.LoadScene("Room_Colosseum_Bronze");

[vivid crag]

[ornate rivet]

The game loads the trial scene, it finds the correct gameobject, but when I try to leave it goes into an infinite knight running transition

@copper nacelle

[ornate rivet]

it's not like there's something that says if you are in ToF don't let the player transition

[copper nacelle]

Check output log

[ornate rivet]

idk what it means

for some reason the knight goes down (checking y coordinate with debug mod)

ok it might be because entering the trial of warrior sets your bench to the one in the Colosseum

if that's true then it sucks

[hollow pier]

gradow is installer fixed

[solemn rivet]

ye

[misty cedar]

Hi, does Hell Mode work with 1.4.3.2?

*Hell Mod

[solemn rivet]

should

[misty cedar]

yep, just got it working, was unsure since it was made for 1.2.2.1

[hollow pier]

alert

kerr is alive

[dusky lion]

[weak lodge]

Champ

[native wing]

champ chomp

[silk jetty]

I beat eroico in easy now

instead of very easy

[cunning lagoon]

Nic e nice

[silk jetty]

ez every time

[mortal trout]

i beat it in easy as well

[cunning lagoon]

Keep up the great work

[mortal trout]

also done with the tower in my challenge icono run

[cunning lagoon]

[silk jetty]

I have 118 minutes in eroico

that means I could still refund it

[mortal trout]

weary

i still need to run this

eeee

[silk jetty]

also, why the fuck are steam screenshots of eroico so bad lol

that's what I got when I pressed f12

[mortal trout]

never took a screenshot

[cunning lagoon]

Who knows really

[silk jetty]

and also, why does it use my bad graphics shit

it uses my intel shit

instead of the gtx 1050

[fair rampart]

death's gambit used intel by default for me, and I was like

WHY

[silk jetty]

how does one change the default graphics shit

[fair rampart]

right click executable

and select "run with graphics processor"

[silk jetty]

what the fuck, I changed the default graphics processor and it still uses the intel one

wtf, I also changed the global default

and still no

Portal 2 uses the gtx

so wtf

wow holy shit Hollow Knight uses like none of my gpu

it uses like 20% gpu

I wonder, is Celeste's free dlc gonna add d sides

because if so then that's not creative

[compact sedge]

f sides

[silk jetty]

z sides

[cunning lagoon]

ill give you my d side

[leaden hedge]

pretty sure they are adding new stages

not harder versions of current stages

[silk jetty]

okay

[fair rampart]

something's different...

[silk jetty]

fuck that

[fair rampart]

why is member list a different shade of white than the other icons?

oh because it is a toggle

I see

[maiden crypt]

Hey, can someone post my friends stream in the livestreams channel? He is on mixer so the bot doesn't work.

I'm not gonna ask all the time. One time would be cool. If not thats cool

[weak lodge]

?

[native wing]

well

it' diluted

[cunning lagoon]

yes thanks 56

[copper nacelle]

pensive

[hollow pier]

twitch.tv/5fiftysix6

[cunning lagoon]

This ^^^^^^^^

[copper nacelle]

that

[cunning lagoon]

stream or you will get mega banned

[hollow pier]

i raided you too

[copper nacelle]

Wtf

Questionable decision making

[cunning lagoon]

not hk though

[hollow pier]

mac icono

[cunning lagoon]

that doesnt bring in the viewers

[hollow pier]

[copper nacelle]

have you heard of

a chem midterm

[hollow pier]

no not really

stream

[cunning lagoon]

@ Chemicalism#6346

drop out to finish your icono playthrough

[hollow pier]

this

[copper nacelle]

no

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

you ever verify your game integrity

[fair rampart]

What are the most popular mods for this game

[cunning lagoon]

khan 😎

[hollow pier]

i will now reinstall terraria

[cunning lagoon]

any bbt

[hollow pier]

no

[cunning lagoon]

[hollow pier]

not as good as icono

[cunning lagoon]

pensive

[hollow pier]

70 hours in icono

[cunning lagoon]

63

im catching up

[hollow pier]

not burnt out

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

Application was not launched through Steam! Shutting down...

why

who

why

ree

holy shit

@ornate rivet

[cunning lagoon]

this does not sound like chem homework to me

[copper nacelle]

urite

shut

there's an open log file

and a dev build thing

kinda cool

But there's way more detail to the logs

[hollow pier]

oh reinstalling doesn't remove tmodloader

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

so who won the rando race

did sean crush tghe other dude

[hollow pier]

sean

[copper nacelle]

Sean

[cunning lagoon]

very nice

[hollow pier]

it was fairly close

shaddy definitely should have won

[cunning lagoon]

washed up

[copper nacelle]

imagine not having faith in sean

[hollow pier]

but routed terribly

shaddy had dnail for an hour more than sean i think

incredible gamer skill brought it back

[cunning lagoon]

when are we doing any% no airswim races

[hollow pier]

hmm

how do you actually remove tmodloader

it won't go away

[cunning lagoon]

just remove the exe

you should have both the vanilla and the tmodloader exes anyway

[hollow pier]

i do

[cunning lagoon]

so just delete it

[hollow pier]

no but it's still in files

[cunning lagoon]

nuke the whole folder and reinstall

[copper nacelle]

https://github.com/0xd4d/dnSpy/wiki/Debugging-Unity-Games -- Turning a release build into a debug build
NOTE: At the moment, use of a MonoMod RuntimeDetour (Hook, Detour, On., IL.) will crash the game if converted to a debug build. Other than this, it's fully usable

[hollow pier]

self pinning

[copper nacelle]

mod abuse etc

[cunning lagoon]

this still doesnt look like chem homework

[hollow pier]

you could have streamed

[cunning lagoon]

this could be an icono playthrough

[hollow pier]

why did i decide to launch terraria

here for 5 years

[cunning lagoon]

[hollow pier]

great

[copper nacelle]

@rain cedar coroutine error logging if you want it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/535304987962638367/unknown.png

[cunning lagoon]

why does it have the bonfire buttons

[hollow pier]

couldn't find a hero

but 56 could be one if he streamed

[copper nacelle]

u

[hollow pier]

acrid request still pending

pensive

[rain cedar]

Is that just gonna spam useless garbage constantly or is it only mod ones?

[copper nacelle]

it spams Couldn't find a hero like twice a scene load

[compact sedge]

honestly the couldn't find a hero thing is so damn annoying

[copper nacelle]

It's unity's thing

not even mine

You can convert unity builds back to debug

[compact sedge]

it's just once every time you try to access the herocontroller

before it's loaded

it returns null

but it also prints that message

[copper nacelle]

This is the part i'm really interested in

.NET debugging which doesn't suck

[compact sedge]

so if you have a coroutine that checks for a hero and waits a frame every time

[copper nacelle]

thanks for the idea

[compact sedge]

it spams that message

[copper nacelle]

i'll remove that as part of qol

easy

[compact sedge]

remove the other "couldn't find an x" things too

pls

[copper nacelle]

u

[compact sedge]

ok

[copper nacelle]

UIManager and hero are the annoying ones

and i don't want to spend 8 years making il hooks

[solemn rivet]

can we achieve world peace with this

[copper nacelle]

idk about the .net thing

i haven't gotten it to work

but the output log thing is neat

it isn't full of playmaker garbage

[solemn rivet]

so it's a finer outputlog onscreen?

[copper nacelle]

Also converting to a debug build gives you way more detail in output log

Yeah

[solemn rivet]

nice

also

fsm editor when

@ nes

[copper nacelle]

you ever have steam say hk is open when it isn't

[solemn rivet]

all the time

steam is usually very high tbh

[copper nacelle]

how do i make it shut up

or just make hk run without murdering itself when it finds out it isn't steam

[compact sedge]

gradow implying microsoft is responsible for all war

[solemn rivet]

use gog

[copper nacelle]

shit urite

[compact sedge]

you did buy it

[solemn rivet]

tee

[compact sedge]

for that weird leak

[copper nacelle]

e

[compact sedge]

that was removed

[solemn rivet]

hey, it got me like 1k views on yt

[copper nacelle]

worth

if it gets me away from

Hollow Knight - Running

[leaden hedge]

1k views basically paid for the game

must have gotten paid atleast 1 zimbabwean dollar

[solemn rivet]

1 yen

[copper nacelle]

It doesn't show the dev console in vanilla

Only w/ the api

[solemn rivet]

wut

y