archived-modding-development

[fair rampart]

what will he stream?

if it doesn't work for you then it doesn't work

it works for some people

[copper nacelle]

obs is bigger than icono

incredible

[hollow pier]

[cunning lagoon]

nathan

she's 17

stop

[copper nacelle]

nathan why

[fair rampart]

sigh

[copper nacelle]

maggot

[fair rampart]

but icono came out in jan 2017 right? so she is 18, checkmate

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

480p30

[rain cedar]

what

[copper nacelle]

incredible

[cunning lagoon]

math does not check out

[fair rampart]

wait that's not for another 10 days

😔

[cunning lagoon]

ur a fukin creep

[hollow pier]

now black however

[mortal trout]

hmm

[cunning lagoon]

isnt the age of consent in the us 21

[hollow pier]

❤

[cunning lagoon]

or is that the drinking age

[fair rampart]

no that's drink

[hollow pier]

drink

[copper nacelle]

drinking

[cunning lagoon]

damn 56 you still got 6 years to go

[rain cedar]

Consent varies by state I think

16-18

[copper nacelle]

i exist

[fair rampart]

he's become self aware

[buoyant obsidian]

we're gonna have to terminate him

[dusky lion]

there goes our 15 yr old child prodigy pensive

[solemn rivet]

what do you guys think? tmi?

[cunning lagoon]

wtf is tmi

[buoyant obsidian]

revert to modded assembly?

[solemn rivet]

too much info

[buoyant obsidian]

that sounds weird

reverting seems like it's something regressive

so even if it's correct I wouldn't use it

[fair rampart]

^

[solemn rivet]

any suggestions then?

just remove the text in parenthesis, or...?

[buoyant obsidian]

yup

[dusky lion]

"Enable installed mods"

[rain cedar]

[cunning lagoon]

hmmm

[solemn rivet]

anyone want to beta test/debug for me?

[hollow pier]

what is this testing for

[solemn rivet]

installer

[hollow pier]

sorry i only manually install my mods

[rain cedar]

Wow just posting an exe

Sketchy

Real sketchy

[solemn rivet]

sketchy af tbh

[hollow pier]

i can't believe that this is not commonly downloaded and may be dangerous

[solemn rivet]

u shouldn't click it if you got any sense

[hollow pier]

nuts

[solemn rivet]

defender defending

he protecc

but most importantly

[hollow pier]

do i select the exe for the file path

[solemn rivet]

he never detecc

just the folder with the exe

and I removed the antipiracy, so don't worry

[hollow pier]

same

[solemn rivet]

I won't hack your pc and send your info to the FBI

[hollow pier]

it does not want to select it papa

[solemn rivet]

it's not named "Hollow Knight", is it?

[hollow pier]

it's hollow knight 1432

[solemn rivet]

I figured

[hollow pier]

since the actual hollow knight is 1221

[solemn rivet]

I'll just remove the check

[hollow pier]

ok

[solemn rivet]

try zis

[cunning lagoon]

i trust papa gradow

he wouldnt hack us

would he

[solemn rivet]

that's what kerr said before he disappeared

I hacked him a puppo

[hollow pier]

insane manager

instantly tells me all my mods are outdated and updates them

which they are

[solemn rivet]

but it asks before it does so

[hollow pier]

yes

[solemn rivet]

only api and modcommon it forces update

because people are stupid

[hollow pier]

what am i supposed to test

[solemn rivet]

this new feature

of enabling/disabling all mods

[hollow pier]

nuts

[solemn rivet]

u saw nothing

[hollow pier]

it says the same thing

[solemn rivet]

oh right, close and re open it

[hollow pier]

but it closed itself

[solemn rivet]

but did you add the dll before reopnening it?

[hollow pier]

i believe so

[solemn rivet]

can you check for me if there's a .vanilla file in your managed folder?

[hollow pier]

it appears to not exist

[solemn rivet]

ok, when you try to launch the installer, does it update the API?

[hollow pier]

yes

[solemn rivet]

now does it work, or...?

oh, it's not creating a vanilla

[high zealot]

where is the pinned message with the google drive link

[hollow pier]

in pins

[high zealot]

is it by @copper nacelle

[hollow pier]

indeed

[high zealot]

ok epic ty

[solemn rivet]

third time is the charm

[hollow pier]

should i have a vanilla hk before running it

[solemn rivet]

yup

I mean, only to test this feature

[hollow pier]

the third windows defender popup

[solemn rivet]

otherwise it works just fine, but you won't be able to revert to and from vanilla

[hollow pier]

he's done it

[young walrus]

what does the button say?

Uninstall all mods?

[solemn rivet]

I pondered on the wording

[young walrus]

hmm....

[solemn rivet]

because you're not uninstalling things

[young walrus]

"revert to vanilla game"

maybe?

[solemn rivet]

people suggested against that

[young walrus]

"revert to modded assembly" is weird

reverting back to no mods makes sense

but "reverting" back to mods installed doesn't really

[hazy sentinel]

"install unmodded mod"

[young walrus]

[solemn rivet]

now it says "Enable/Disable All Installed Mods"

since it's just changing the assemblies around, that's basically what happens

all installed mods are still installed, you simply can't use them

[young walrus]

should be fine

[solemn rivet]

I'm still taking suggestions tho, if you've got any

[young walrus]

I mean, if you want to change the button text based on what state you're in

[solemn rivet]

btw ty pete for being my guinea pig

[cunning lagoon]

np

[young walrus]

if api installed: "revert back to vanilla game"

[high zealot]

how do i get the modding api

[young walrus]

if vanilla assembly: "enable all installed mods"

^

installs it automatically

[hazy sentinel]

;api

[high zealot]

um how do I get my windows not to freak out and not let me run it

[young walrus]

tell it to run it

[high zealot]

ok

[silk jetty]

more info run anyways

[solemn rivet]

"Revert Back to Unmodded"

how's that sound?

[young walrus]

sounds fine

[hollow pier]

can i not pin installer to quick access because it's an exe

[solemn rivet]

you can

[young walrus]

in explorer?

[solemn rivet]

mine is pinned

[young walrus]

or the taskbar

[hollow pier]

explorer

[young walrus]

put it in a folder and put the folder in quick access?

[high zealot]

wait so the thing is asking for a path do I send it to the hollow knight folder

or

a mod folder

[hollow pier]

yeah that's what i did

[high zealot]

in the manager folder

[young walrus]

the folder that holds the game

[hazy sentinel]

win10 lmao

[solemn rivet]

mine's pinned, ptk

[high zealot]

ok the folder that holds the app that is the game ok

[hazy sentinel]

@solemn rivet

[solemn rivet]

glutenfree: that's it

ur trash, veru

[solemn rivet]

oh

no, not that

[dusky lion]

Kuro Typos

[urban olive]

Beat me to it

[high zealot]

any mods suggestions?

[cunning lagoon]

rando 2

[solemn rivet]

anyone else care to try/debug the installer for me?

[dusky lion]

how dare you insult our lord and savior microsoft excel

[high zealot]

is lightbringer any good

[hazy sentinel]

ur right i can use excel to approximate pi

[solemn rivet]

it is

[high zealot]

so after I install the mod do I just launch the game

[solemn rivet]

most mods are somewhat good

yeah

[young walrus]

yes

actually no

[high zealot]

ok

[dusky lion]

they are just projectile spam

[young walrus]

you do a funny dance

then buy me dinner

[high zealot]

any mods I should avoid

[solemn rivet]

bonfire

[young walrus]

could read the readmes

see what appeals to you

[hazy sentinel]

you sub to thetimesink then run eroico and iconoclasts instead of playing hk

[young walrus]

or the mod summaries

[high zealot]

those are in the drive right

[young walrus]

install mod, press readme button

all in the installer

[high zealot]

is that where the summaries are

[fair rampart]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[young walrus]

^

[high zealot]

can you not use non api mods

[hazy sentinel]

they have to be recompiled with each update

most were made before API existed

[high zealot]

so can I not use the ones under Non-API Mods (non-functional on current version)

[hazy sentinel]

you can if you downpatch

[young walrus]

^

"non functional on current version"

can't play on current patch

[high zealot]

I cant install the fast text mod ood

oof

[young walrus]

fast text is part of QoL

[high zealot]

ok

so why should I not get bondfire

so after mods are install just launch it

[copper nacelle]

@rain cedar stream

[young walrus]

no. you buy me dinner and do a funny dance

[cunning lagoon]

what happened

[rain cedar]

I don't remember how to set up virtual controller

[copper nacelle]

my internet died apparently

[cunning lagoon]

use pete's setup

[rain cedar]

And the video on it is longer than 0 seconds

Pete's setup sucks

[cunning lagoon]

i can teach you

i am a gamer after all

[hollow pier]

some days pete setup is insane

others it is not

today i got all my dodgerolls within 3 attempts

[rain cedar]

Maybe it's time to go back to the true strat

An actual controller

[hollow pier]

[cunning lagoon]

is this 56

[high zealot]

whats the difference between charming and charm overhaul

[copper nacelle]

different effects

also charming doesn't work

[high zealot]

oh

[cunning lagoon]

ok so for vjoy you want the 2.17 version

ymmv but the 2.18 one just wont work for me

[rain cedar]

Hmm I dunno

[cunning lagoon]

[silk jetty]

Is this even randomized?

[rain cedar]

56 stopped streaming a lot earlier than I expected

It's the randomizer popup so I'd say yes

[high zealot]

does the mod manager have to stay open for mods to work

[rain cedar]

No

[silk jetty]

no

[young walrus]

no

[cunning lagoon]

no

[young walrus]

it's a copy/paste tool

[high zealot]

so close it go to steam and run the game after I download all the stuff I want right

[young walrus]

and buy me dinner

[high zealot]

and the path goes to the file that holds the game

[young walrus]

and do a funny dance

[high zealot]

ok

[rain cedar]

Virtual controller doesn't work

Impossible

[cunning lagoon]

x

just run dodgerolless

[rain cedar]

When I try to run it nothing happens

[compact sedge]

why does it say you already know what to press anyway

why not just show the normal dialogue

[rain cedar]

Effort

[cunning lagoon]

did you install the 32 bit version

[rain cedar]

Yes

[cunning lagoon]

yeah that'll happen

[rain cedar]

It was the default

[cunning lagoon]

don't do that

[compact sedge]

how is it more effort to show the normal dialogue

[rain cedar]

32 bit programs are supposed to work on 64 bit

[copper nacelle]

because he remade it into non-fsm

[cunning lagoon]

well it doesn't

[compact sedge]

oh I see

because the dialogue object and stuff is only loaded in that one scene

[young walrus]

plus the regular splash screen isn't as funny

[rain cedar]

It doesn't have permission for its own install directory

Windows 10

why

[cunning lagoon]

yeah thats also a thing

[rain cedar]

how fix

[cunning lagoon]

open as admin

[silk jetty]

that didn't work for me

wait no

ignore that

[cunning lagoon]

[silk jetty]

I'm retarded

[rain cedar]

Wow it works

Genius

[cunning lagoon]

im gonna miss so much

when my nitro runs out

[hollow pier]

[young walrus]

where that from

[hollow pier]

ax server

[cunning lagoon]

ax's server

[hollow pier]

also on bttv

enable it

[cunning lagoon]

this trbh

[hollow pier]

highly recommend

[young walrus]

.done

[cunning lagoon]

[hollow pier]

[dusky lion]

[young walrus]

got some fresh new HK emotes coming soon to bttv myself

👀

[hollow pier]

they can't top

[young walrus]

[dusky lion]

sigh

[solemn rivet]

installer updated boisss

[cunning lagoon]

some dude telling him that it has actually been patched out rofl

[floral furnace]

kuro make a reddit account and tell him how wrong he is

[cunning lagoon]

no

[silk jetty]

almost vanilla

also, that means that I just need claw for go mode

[copper nacelle]

imagine playing with claw

this post made by no claw gang

[silk jetty]

I haven't even tried noclaw

[urban olive]

Hmmmmm today I will attempt a True Ending randomizer run

Oh god oh fuck my free time

[silk jetty]

if you wanna get true ending just do all bosses

[compact sedge]

what's the probability of rando2 generating a vanilla run?

[cunning lagoon]

low

[urban olive]

Very low

[young walrus]

zero

cuz compass is always elegy

[compact sedge]

always?

[silk jetty]

wait, compass is always at elegy

[compact sedge]

even with hardmode off?

[young walrus]

yes. compass gets put at elegy always

[silk jetty]

wow

[hollow pier]

it's to prevent dead bingo goals

[copper nacelle]

cmpass

[hollow pier]

eg lifeblood heart at elegy

lifeblood heart + joni's is a bingo goal

basically can't get that goal

[cunning lagoon]

just get all the grubs whats the issue

[compact sedge]

so aside from that probably not low enough that you couldn't reimplement the algorithm and bruteforce nearly vanilla seeds (a nearly vanilla seed IMO would be elegy where the compass is and everything else in the proper spot)

[copper nacelle]

imo nearly vanilla would be better as grubsong at compass and elegy at grubsong

then you couldn't buy your way past vs

[cunning lagoon]

what

[copper nacelle]

if you had elegy at compass

then you could just talk to cornifer

go up

[cunning lagoon]

well first off i dont see why thats a bad thing

[copper nacelle]

because vanilla seed

[cunning lagoon]

but even then iselda can have multiple items so putting grubsong at compass wouldnt do anything

[young walrus]

chance of vanilla see is 1/(n!)

where n is number of randomized items

and even that probably isn't true, since shops can have random number of things

same chance as any other seed

crude approximation

but meh

since there's some dead seeds in there that can't happen

like all progression items locked behind progression

so it's not truly 1/n!

but whatever

[urban olive]

What are some fun mods to pair with rando2?

[dusky lion]

chaos mod

[urban olive]

that make the game still beatable I mean

[dusky lion]

fuck

[urban olive]

Lol

[dusky lion]

rng mod

[urban olive]

Ok

[fair rampart]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[cunning lagoon]

same tbh

[urban olive]

lol

hey someone who knows customsprite

do i only have to edit 5 pngs to use it?

i dont have to edit every single one of the knights frames?

[young walrus]

you have to edit every single frame in the sprite sheet

[urban olive]

oof ouch owie

how long did it take you for each mickely

[young walrus]

5s

[urban olive]

oh

huh

[young walrus]

cuz i threw a filter over the whole thing

[urban olive]

oh

can you fill me in on how to do that?

idk if that's a dumb question or not

[young walrus]

use a photo editing program

i barely know what I'm doing

but i did it somehow

[urban olive]

which did you use?

[young walrus]

Xara

it's just something that came with vegas pro when I bought the humble bundle pack

[urban olive]

30 day trial pog

[silk jetty]

1 chest away from vanilla

[urban olive]

Wtf

Wait do you mean in terms of location

Or like everything has been vanilla besides one chest

[silk jetty]

this run also had vanilla cloak

in terms of location

[urban olive]

Oh ok

Btw does enemyHPbar work on current patch?

[silk jetty]

yes lol

why wouldn't it

[urban olive]

ok

just checking thought i saw something mentioned

thx

[fair rampart]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[urban olive]

which do people generally think is better

Charming or CharmOverhaul?

i wanna use one with my rando2 run

[silk jetty]

charmoverhaul

charming doesn't work

[urban olive]

ok

@solemn rivet one other possible issue

idk if it's just my computer but unpinning the old modinstaller leaves an empty space on my taskbar

that doesn't go away even if i move stuff around

and can be moved

probably on my end though

[solemn rivet]

i have no control over that, m8

[urban olive]

ah ok just me then sorry for the ping

is there any way i could read all the charm changes in charmoverhaul?

[cunning lagoon]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/367520/discussions/0/1732089092462513717/

[fair rampart]

I haven't updated that in a while

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kSTRoDuUoDv_-b5M9W3wZd2Qzbbmi0w3pk6yUFun-1E

here

use this readme

[urban olive]

thank you!

wow this looks amazing

surprised no nerf to strength / no buff to dshield tho

[fair rampart]

I should buff DShield

[urban olive]

thatd be super cool

[fair rampart]

I keep forgetting tbh

[urban olive]

this makes me want to try making my own charm combo mod, i feel like im going to have so much fun playing this plus rando 2

[fair rampart]

I've been meaning to lower the charm cost

[urban olive]

thanks so much for making such a cool mod abyssal

[fair rampart]

I had a lot of help

[urban olive]

i think making a dshield combo that causes it to not break temporarily upon hitting an emnemy would be really cool

*enemy

[solemn rivet]

we love you AA2.0

[fair rampart]

[solemn rivet]

now I go to bed

it's 2AM here

[compact sedge]

that emoji makes me think gradow's getting fucked in his sleep

[solemn rivet]

I mean

I didn't say I wasn't

[compact sedge]

god I wish that was me

[solemn rivet]

[fair rampart]

I should go to sleep aswell

[cunning lagoon]

good night nathan 💋

[solemn rivet]

who's nathan

I only know AAA

[fair rampart]

[copper nacelle]

why does this emote exist

[forest thorn]

Hello, does anyone know how I can add my own image to the game? Like the lightbringer mod

[neon cradle]

I think this belongs in #archived-modding-help?

[forest thorn]

[compact sedge]

by serialzing it as a texture2d

with the unity image conversion module dll

lemme git u some code

[forest thorn]

Yes please

[compact sedge]

https://github.com/natis1/redwing/blob/master/redwing/load_textures.cs#L126

it's literally like, 3 lines

eww it says firey instead of fiery in the description

how tf did I not notice

[forest thorn]

lmao

[compact sedge]

it may or may not be an issue on gitlab too

[copper nacelle]

https://gitlab.com/natis1/radiance.host/issues/1

[forest thorn]

How do I serialize the image as a texture 2d with the unity image conversion thingy?

[copper nacelle]

the easiest way to put images in-game is have them as embedded resources in your assembly

you then load them as byte[] and then convert to Texture2Ds using Unity's ImageConversion module

[forest thorn]

Uhhhh

I don't know how to embed resources in my assembly...

[buoyant obsidian]

when in doubt

[forest thorn]

[buoyant obsidian]

https://github.com/5FiftySix6/HollowKnight.Lightbringer

Steal 56's source code

[compact sedge]

to embed them in assembly you have to edit the csproject

lemme show you

[forest thorn]

That would be very helpful

[compact sedge]

https://github.com/natis1/redwing/blob/master/redwing/redwing.csproj#L116

so like

the paths are listed there

https://github.com/natis1/redwing/tree/master/redwing/assets/shield

and then I have actual assets where those paths are

[forest thorn]

Mhm...

[compact sedge]

you can in I think VS add assets to projects graphically

and then just edit the csproj to change them to EmbeddedResource instead of just Content

and then they will literally be inside your DLL

which will make your DLL real big

but it's ok

[copper nacelle]

you can also load images through WWW

[forest thorn]

So like this?

[copper nacelle]

Yeah

[forest thorn]

Alright, and then how do I access that through code?

Is what I copied

[compact sedge]

wait sorry lemme get you the get bytes function

https://github.com/natis1/redwing/blob/master/redwing/load_textures.cs#L134

you can just copy paste this entire function

and then when you're done

[forest thorn]

I get this error

[compact sedge]

you're on .net 3.5 right

for your project?

[forest thorn]

Errr

How do I check

[compact sedge]

it should be in your csproj

TargetFrameworkVersion

should be v3.5

[forest thorn]

Do I just change it then?

[compact sedge]

wtf is .net 5.0

is this a thing

now

yeah

is 5.0 even a thing @copper nacelle

[copper nacelle]

I don't think so

ASP.NET 5 exists I guess

[compact sedge]

anyway I actually have to sleep soon so I'll leave you with this once you figure that other thing out:

foreach (string res in Assembly.GetExecutingAssembly().GetManifestResourceNames())

iterates over all embedded resources in your assembly returning a string that lets you access that image. so just pass that string to that load image function and then you will get a texture2d out of it

[forest thorn]

I can't reload back into my thingy now

[copper nacelle]

Just swap it to 4.5

[compact sedge]

or that

[copper nacelle]

5 might be Core 1

[forest thorn]

Oh I see it works now

Okay, thank you for the help!

[compact sedge]

so yeah basically

foreach (string res in Assembly.GetExecutingAssembly().GetManifestResourceNames()) {
    if (res.EndsWith(".png"))
        tex = loadImageFromAssembly(res);
}```

or whatever you wanna do

[forest thorn]

Oh lawd

[compact sedge]

I have no idea what your build environment/toolchain is but if it's normal windows it shouldn't be possible for microsoft to fuck up this badly on their own OS on their own development language

[forest thorn]

lmao

[compact sedge]

anyway hopefully 56 can help you fix it

[forest thorn]

Alrighty

[copper nacelle]

Wtf

[forest thorn]

Okay, I just made a new proj starting at the 3.5 framework and it works now

Strange

[ornate rivet]

@cunning lagoon
I installed DoH and Rando 2 and everything loaded properly

[cunning lagoon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ornate rivet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cunning lagoon]

sigh

[ornate rivet]

same

[ornate rivet]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
they got reset

[solemn rivet]

AA do you still have stats on installer downloads?

sounds like the BEST band name tbh

[solemn rivet]

small addition/change to installer

now it checks the patch version before installing

[alpine imp]

I'm pretty new to modding in hollow knight. Why does windows not launch the program? What should i do?

[solemn rivet]

show

[alpine imp]

1 sec

[neon cradle]

Click more info, then the option to allow appears, iirc

[alpine imp]

Nope.

[neon cradle]

Oh..

[river eagle]

could running it as an administrator work?

[solemn rivet]

usually clicking more info is enough

idk

try what hal said

[river eagle]

@alpine imp

[alpine imp]

i made it work

its fine

thanks for helping

[solemn rivet]

what did you do? For future reference

[river eagle]

Yeah please do tell it. "nvm fixed it :)" is the nightmare of anyone looking for help

[solemn rivet]

^

@alpine imp

[alpine imp]

turned off the anti-virus

[solemn rivet]

but that's windows defender

I guess

ty

[alpine imp]

np

[plain stag]

Uh

What

My game is updated 🤔

[solemn rivet]

it's working!

you're prolly running the beta version

[plain stag]

Of the game?

Nope

[solemn rivet]

oh

you ran the installer before, I presume?

[plain stag]

Yeah

This is the first time I've been running it since the update though

[solemn rivet]

put this in the managed folder

you know where that is, right?

[plain stag]

yeah

[solemn rivet]

ok

that should fix it

[plain stag]

yup

[solemn rivet]

I'm gonna fix the code real quick, but that should work

[plain stag]

It worked fine

Thanks a lot man ^^

[solemn rivet]

np!

@plain stag would you mind deleting that .vanilla file and trying again? I think I've fixed it

wait shit

don't

k, fixed it

[plain stag]

should i delete it?

[young walrus]

@rain cedar you posted that load standardizer mod right?

is it on the drive? or did you only post it here

[distant stratus]

Anyone have tips for empress muzznik on light bringer?

Trying to do light bringer no upgrades/ least upgrades run

[fair rampart]

just avoid her

[distant stratus]

Avoiding her won't help much

I'm avoiding upgrades, including charms and nailsmith

[young walrus]

so why fight her anyways

[distant stratus]

Because I'm going for all bosses!

[young walrus]

k.well then good luck

[distant stratus]

Luck is certainly a part of it, but tips on muzznik help too

[young walrus]

get upgrades

you're going to have a bad time without them

[forest thorn]

Hi, does anyone know how to change the Splash Screen of when you boot up the game?
Like in the lightbringer mod, it changes the Hollow Knight logo to Lightbringer

[fair rampart]

#archived-modding-help doesn't exist

[young walrus]

I'd decompile lightbringer and see how it does it

[compact sedge]

if only there was source code

[distant stratus]

@young walrus I understand what you mean. If I’ve spent like hours on a boss and feel like I’m making 0 progress, I’ll concede and get upgrades.

[hazy sentinel]

hm

[copper nacelle]

[solemn rivet]

where is the api version located in the assembly?

[copper nacelle]

private const int in ModHooks

_modVersion

[solemn rivet]

nice

now I'm trying to find patch number

[copper nacelle]

It's in Constants on newer patches

Iirc

[copper nacelle]

search by string

If the constants namespace doesn't exist you can just say it's too old tbh

If you want to eventually support old patches you could check if PlayerData exists if Constants doesn't

And then instantiate a new PlayerData and run the setup

that always sets game version

[solemn rivet]

have you ever seen a better if

I'll wait

[copper nacelle]

Delete this

Why

[solemn rivet]

cause I want to make this as complicated as possible

[copper nacelle]

x

[solemn rivet]

if this is HK installer, I should try and make spaghetti code

[copper nacelle]

❌

[solemn rivet]

as an homage to TC

[copper nacelle]

You don't need the shasum

[solemn rivet]

I know

[copper nacelle]

[solemn rivet]

but

spaghetti > common sense

my git push finger is itching

I'll still keep the sha1 check tho

[copper nacelle]

why

[solemn rivet]

comparing strings is cheaper than reflecting

[copper nacelle]

but it's after the reflection

[solemn rivet]

hmmm

[copper nacelle]

You'll always run the reflection before the string comparison

[solemn rivet]

hmmmmmmm

sigh

deletes code

[copper nacelle]

[mortal trout]

[copper nacelle]

no

[cunning lagoon]

[mortal trout]

[copper nacelle]

stop

pensive bread is a sin

only pensiveloaf

[mortal trout]

u

[buoyant obsidian]

pensivebread looks better

[merry geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-lurking-watching-keep-goin-gif-4975360

[dusky lion]

[cunning lagoon]

.-.

[solemn rivet]

56

[dusky lion]

(๑╹ω╹๑ )

[solemn rivet]

how get field value via reflection

                                   .GetField("GAME_VERSION")
                                   .GetValue(ass.GetTypes().Select(type => type.Name.Contains("Constant")))```this work?

[compact sedge]

can versions be made public variables?

upstream I mean

instead of reflection for em?

[solemn rivet]

they are public

but I can't access them

[copper nacelle]

Isn't it static?

It's just .GetValue(null)

[solemn rivet]

public const string GAME_VERSION = "1.4.3.2"; no statics

[copper nacelle]

const is auto static

[solemn rivet]

shows how much I know

[copper nacelle]

Also why are you using select

Wtf

[solemn rivet]

oof

meant to use first

[copper nacelle]

Also don't call GetType on it

It is a type

[solemn rivet]

I know

but it gave me red squigglies

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[copper nacelle]

If you call GetType on a type you'll just get Type

It gave you red squiggles because you were using Select

[dusky lion]

15 yr old child prodigy owns gradow with facts and logic

[solemn rivet]

First fixed it

[copper nacelle]

remove GetType

[solemn rivet]

done

[copper nacelle]

Pog

[cunning lagoon]

56 acq me an icono stream

[hollow pier]

watch nekopara 3

[cunning lagoon]

is that the anime game

https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/aftwd7/new_runner_beats_wr_then_tries_to_change/

[copper nacelle]

is this a repost

[solemn rivet]

on a scale from 56 to me, how ugly is this:

[cunning lagoon]

well i was asleep so iof you already saw this now you see it again

[hollow pier]

it's coop's friend

marioboy

[cunning lagoon]

i thought it would be

MRAMNESIA8

[hollow pier]

sadly he died long ago

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

stop

why

gradow

[cunning lagoon]

they have not verified my pb yet

[copper nacelle]

||

[cunning lagoon]

i have angerç

[solemn rivet]

S

P

A

G

H

E

T

T

I

[copper nacelle]

no

[hollow pier]

i have cedilla6

or something

what's the count

[copper nacelle]

too many

[cunning lagoon]

AnActualCoop is kind of a known troll, in my local scene he's always making trouble. He kept trying to put himself on our local PR as #1 (for smash), but he was using some hacked version of brawl it was total bullshit.

[hollow pier]

i believe also emilio

one of them is him

[cunning lagoon]

time to learn city escape

i asked sean to remind me to rewatch the tutorial and he ddnt do it

good thing i dont forget things

[hollow pier]

sean is gone

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

fountain vessel fragment

[cunning lagoon]

see 56 you might not have seen it

but in the same run i asked sean to do this i took multiple unnecessary trips to some floors in the tower

and forgot a key

[weak lodge]

e

[copper nacelle]

incredible

[cunning lagoon]

maybe lost half a minute just to forgetting things

[weak lodge]

ah yes good to see that 56 is still half dead

[copper nacelle]

your fault for using light mode

[native wing]

predictable

🥚

[copper nacelle]

die

[mortal trout]

light mode

[cunning lagoon]

light mode more like legit mode 👌

[native wing]

yes

how else does that cat have radiant eyes

[cunning lagoon]

i now know how to escape city one decently

[hollow pier]

any edge cancel

or gunboost it's way cooler imo

[cunning lagoon]

where is that

im just followiung the tutorial

[hollow pier]

angryjack

watch pete video

[cunning lagoon]

i did

send pete video

[hollow pier]

too lazy

go find pete video

[cunning lagoon]

describe room

[hollow pier]

two consecutive dodges to get past 3 bombs going down up and left from left to right

white soldier at the end

[cunning lagoon]

this is not an outside room right

i know which one you mean

[hollow pier]

it is not

[copper nacelle]

[hollow pier]

gunboost to clear both the boxes and the purple guy in one jump

clear the next 3 bombs with regular shots

jump and parry the rocket thing to keep momentum

carry the speed throughout the entire room

gunboost at the end into the last room

[cunning lagoon]

you dont even need to do roll through the second mine in the first room

seanpr lies

im optimizing this shit

[hollow pier]

yeah i know

i roll anyways

i think it's faster since you accelerate immediately but idk

[cunning lagoon]

nah

[hollow pier]

you can't gunboost that's for sure

[copper nacelle]

rll

[cunning lagoon]

1 sec

[dusky lion]

Just teleport lol

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

yeah no

[dusky lion]

[cunning lagoon]

what you wanna do in that room is shoot the first mine, jump over the second one and then downwards gunboost

to clear the boxes

so you keep your boost all the way through

[weak lodge]

tabbing into modding and seeing someone with light theme

incredible

[hollow pier]

what boost

gunboost from two rooms before?

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[hollow pier]

ok

i remember being able to jump over the second bomb but it's tight or inconsistent

maybe it's consistent with gunboost speed

i never really tried without it

[cunning lagoon]

you have to jump early

i have recorded a small demonstration

https://youtu.be/OezYaKnp7_k

not sure if its actually rng

[hollow pier]

is your gun back in time for the 3 bombs

[cunning lagoon]

if you gunboost earlier probably

[hollow pier]

ok

[cunning lagoon]

i'll keep trying

yeah i think the jump is consistent

you just have to jump early

[hollow pier]

ok

seanpr exposed

[cunning lagoon]

you do get your gun back

ez clap

[hollow pier]

nuts

no edge cancel though

[cunning lagoon]

you think that might be faster?

cause you get like 1k speed while rolling right

[hollow pier]

i don't know

if you can keep speed through the entire next room it's probably faster

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

you can up until the one mine where you dodgeroll through it

[hollow pier]

i dodge next to the first bomb though

[cunning lagoon]

with the robot

[hollow pier]

maybe you can clear it with a gunboost up

[cunning lagoon]

but you can get it back right after

yeah i'll try that

[hollow pier]

but the second bomb might be a problem

unless you clear both like a gamer

[cunning lagoon]

oh you absolutely can

[hollow pier]

[cunning lagoon]

you might bump into the boxes though

not sure how to deal with this

[hollow pier]

nuts

[cunning lagoon]

ok so you can straight up just jump through the first one

it just doesnt hit you

[hollow pier]

insane

[cunning lagoon]

so you can probably stay grounded and shoot the second one

then just jump through the boxes

yeah ok this is good

[hollow pier]

do you jump on the box before the purple guy and jump over

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[hollow pier]

the greatest city escape alive

[cunning lagoon]

seanpr outdated

[hollow pier]

munchakoopas overrated

[cunning lagoon]

ok so those 2 rooms are good

you do lose your boost rolling through the shield soldier

but you have to lose it on the next room anyway

so instead of 2 rolls you can do a gunboost over the first mine and a roll through the second one

i think 2 rolls might be better for safety and to have your gun cooldown ready for a sideways boost

so next room would be basically the same

[hollow pier]

i suck at remembering what to do

[cunning lagoon]

kinda same tbh

[hollow pier]

tfw clear box too well and get hit by second bomb in the first room

[cunning lagoon]

ye you gotta be careful with that

unless you can clear it even better and just go through it

but i just try to land on the box

[hollow pier]

doing that probably means a later gunboost which isn't good

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[hollow pier]

i suck at the second room

it's either jump too high and run into the second bomb as it goes up

or jump too low and get hit by first

[cunning lagoon]

the one with the robot

[hollow pier]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

yeah you cant do a small jum,p or you get hit by the first one

but too big of a jump and you bump into th seconmd one

[hollow pier]

i got it but i was holding gun

pepehands

[cunning lagoon]

can relate

[hollow pier]

he's done it

[cunning lagoon]

it doesnt look like you can make it through the second room with a downwards gunboost sadly

it'd make it much easier

that second mine is a bitch oof

[hollow pier]

impossible strat

[cunning lagoon]

same

[hollow pier]

sketchier than no gunboost dark cave jumps

[cunning lagoon]

city escape IL when

i cant hit that fucking second mine

impossible

i might go for the gunboost into the boxes in runs for safety

[hollow pier]

can you jump between the purple guy and the first mine

or downleft shot to aggro the mine early

[cunning lagoon]

thats what i was thinking but i think all thats gonna do is make me crouch accidentally

[hollow pier]

pepehands

[cunning lagoon]

it might work ill give it a shot

[hollow pier]

real icono fails are crouching 6 times when trying to interact with something

[cunning lagoon]

oh i feel that

any crouching 10 times in a row in front of black 2 despite the arrow being there every time

[hollow pier]

same

the real bullshit is when the arrow is there but pressing down doesn't work

[cunning lagoon]

ye thats what i kmean

[hollow pier]

o

[copper nacelle]

kmean

[cunning lagoon]

so do the frame perfect shit gunboosts have a name?

[hollow pier]

no

i think the proper response is saying "wtf was that"

[leaden hedge]

fpsgb

[cunning lagoon]

wow nice one of the soliders can just decide to be on your way so you fall on his head and bounce

[hollow pier]

you mean the second room

that's why you dodger

[cunning lagoon]

i mean you can just boost again

nbd

[ornate rivet]

why would adding this cause the transition FINISHED to happen after the animation ends?
_control.InsertMethod("Dig 2", 0, () => _anim.Play("DigIn 2"));

if I don't add that the state does not transition

[hollow pier]

getting hit by the second mine isn't terrible

gunboost again not that much of a loss

[copper nacelle]

What else is in the state?

FINISHED occurs when all the actions in the state have finished

So if there's only that

it'll be when that finishes

If there's nothing

it'll never do anything

[ornate rivet]

I'm adding this

_control.InsertAction("Dig 2", new Wait
{
    time =5f,
    finishEvent = FsmEvent.FindEvent("FINISHED"),
    realTime = false
},0);

[copper nacelle]

[ornate rivet]

nothing that affects transitions

[copper nacelle]

that's not how it works

[ornate rivet]

collider, audio, emitter, velocity and setkinematic

[cunning lagoon]

https://youtu.be/lSqmr4MSQNU

[copper nacelle]

your finish event sucks

stop using it

There's a static member which actually works

[ornate rivet]

[dusky lion]

FOLLOW ME SET ME FREE TRUST ME AND WE SHALL ESCAPE FROM THE CITY

[hollow pier]

not parrying rocket

[cunning lagoon]

not sure if the robot at 0:32 woulda hit me so i rolled

but if he doesn't then that's a roll you can avoid

[hollow pier]

parrying is hella slow it has lag frames like hk

glad you can skip that

[blissful burrow]

Why escape city when you can

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0TnLOwIAa0

[cunning lagoon]

oh also i made the jump at 0:30 way harder than it should be

you can probably gunboost earlier to not make not bumping into the boxes as tight

[ornate rivet]

@copper nacelle
You want me to use FsmEvent.EventList[idk the index tbh]?

[copper nacelle]

No

[hollow pier]

the purple guy at :32 probably wouldn't have hit

[ornate rivet]

sigh

[copper nacelle]

[warped sinew]

What is that run and gun game kurosh???

[hollow pier]

iconoclasts

[cunning lagoon]

iconoclasts

[hollow pier]

graig run it

[cunning lagoon]

very good game highly recommend playing it

also i got a way better and easier escape

[warped sinew]

I am going to play that it looks really good

[hollow pier]

[cunning lagoon]

[ornate rivet]

why do I need to add a transition

[hollow pier]

do we have yet another runner

[copper nacelle]

you don't

FsmEvent.Finished

you fool

[warped sinew]

Oh u guys running it? OK I'll join

[cunning lagoon]

yeah boi

[hollow pier]

[mortal trout]

iconoclasts is a great game

[ornate rivet]

AddTransition...sigh

[warped sinew]

Give me a week to git gud first lol

[leaden hedge]

its worse than hk

[mortal trout]

i might also run it when im done with challenge

[hollow pier]

runs after challenge

[leaden hedge]

atleast hk you can't airswim to the final boss

[cunning lagoon]

[leaden hedge]

you actually have to play hk

[cunning lagoon]

you see kdt

thats why you play an% no airswim

run*

[leaden hedge]

shit arbitrary category

[cunning lagoon]

https://youtu.be/RtJWiit8Xig

infinitely easier last outside room

[leaden hedge]

play any% relaxed tbh

then you don't even need to play the game to get more air

[cunning lagoon]

fixed my city escape

[ornate rivet]

ok 56 I now realize why you called me a fool

[hollow pier]

[cunning lagoon]

is this worth posting in #399820167191724033

[hollow pier]

probably

[leaden hedge]

you'll never take any of seans wr anyway

[cunning lagoon]

no one cares probably