#archived-modding-development
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sad ! !
hahayes
56 monopoly
he's done it
insane game
new speedrunning technique
what game
iconoclasts
squ int
sean what is this
incredible
@hazy sentinel

is that one armed blonde guy from the game 'Mercenary Kings"?
noooo ive fooled
that avatar kinda looks like its from Nuclear Throne, but im pretty sure its not :o
oh shit that isnt mercenary kings
thats the wrench girl game
iconoclasts
uh
holy shit, he got fucked up
it is from nuclear throne bye
nice
@copper nacelle
Is this you?
ugly fat maggo

hiya
whats the max display count for essence?
like i just got the max amount that can be stored
but can it all be displayed even?
im thinking 9999 is max displayed but tbh i have zero clues
Pretty easy to test
probably infinite unless they hardcoded it
seemsgood
yeah so
no limit on the max displayed
the limit is on the maximum integer that can be stored
reeee I was going to post it
enemy essence drop poggers
95 hours lowest percent poggers
alright seems good thanks!
yw ๐
why post barbie gif
the man likes barbie don't shame him
i like shaming men who like barbie dont shame me
Is this god
https://youtu.be/luRVUBvf2X4?t=18 another insane optimization
Wait how did you start the dodge so late and still get into the gap?
imagine not keeping up with the hottest ptkyr tech
jump wrench same frame in the air while falling into a gap lets you do that
crouching hitbox meme i guess
Weird
nice livesplit just said "splits could not be saved!", closed itself and now this is my pb
very nice
godlike
The pace
im so angry at that lawrence
which one
all i can do is get the first bomb fast
second bomb just doesn't work
it teleports itself above the red thing
actual bs
wow i fucking hate making highlights
same
it's way better if you manually input the start and end times at the bottom
i think i just did it

how much time do i even lose to an optimal city escape
like 20 30 s maybe
i really have to learn that
you lose feeling like a god
that too
this is a good puzzle thing
You can do that puzzle fast with kill boosts up into the spikes
Then missile the platform to make it come over
I don't recommend it

https://youtu.be/BML_brpG-68 here's what i got
can't the purple guys be way to the right
as in can the worm be in a bad spot
how does that work at all
It's rng
i really do not know
you knock the platform way earlier with the first shot
and then you don't wait as long for the second bomb to explode
ok well lawrence is bullshit and rgn
hmm
i shall get the 39 tomorrow
you sillies this is the modding channel for hollow knight not iconoclasts speedrunning !!
i'll just never do runs and practice segments
be the best runner with the worst splits
i think you need to dboost well and attack fairly early to not have him attack twice

i made food
he's made food
hmmmm
where's barack obama from
ok let me know when you wT YOUR FOOD
is this an a-capslock substitution
laughter
i have wTEN MY FOOD
oh true
nutty
I updated the Randomizer Helper https://rainingchain.com/hollowknight/randomizer
Randomizer Helper for the game Hollow Knight.
o, ready
why does it say shaman stone and salubra?
well, all the separate charms and salubra
@slate owl
what the fuck
56 fix your shit
@copper nacelle do you have any idea why this is happening?
fml
idfk
So, there isn't one?
I don't fucking know
Missing a file perhaps?
I fixed that error on my end by deleting the entire game folder, reinstalling, then allowing mod installer through my firewall when installing
okay, I just had completely delete the whole installer
I've heard of this happening on other games
@silk jetty Idk. The page was auto-generated from Seanpr xml.
ah
@rain cedar in the new version of the randomizer helper should I say salubra when it already says all of the charms she gives?
Aight good
by completely getting rid of the installer and reinstalling it
I should have excluded Shop items.
Why?
Huh
So, I just got this on windows, and what's interesting is the Modding API versions for windows
There aren't any for 1.4.3.2
Unless the older versions work fine on the new versions
the current version of installer works on 1432

AHAH
I can't see the full name of each file, so I thought it was a different OS, it just says "[Uni..." at the end
Thanks!
ok thanks
I'm glad "Don't run" is the only button
More info gives you a run button
And the only info is the exe name
UI design 
Yeah
Incredible
I don't need that anymore though
There's only like 5 things in downloads
Maybe some day I'll have to search for it again
wow, wind waker looks like a very reasonable speedgame https://clips.twitch.tv/RacyCorrectStarPastaThat
Still better than dampe
bbt could realistically catch up to icono for me 
bbt 
48 vs 50 
hello seanpr you have two cards that i need to craft the steam awards 2018 badge
hello
(it is actually for upgrading it from level 2 to 3)
hmm
there is a coop stream
co-op or coop
is it goof
It says you have the 3 cards I need to level up to 2
insane
horheristo did all iconoclasts bosses NO HIT/NO DAMAGE [WORLD'S FIRST] therefore he is better than seanpr
i have doubles of all of those
vr and best game
I have a duplicate vr

so fo the shockwoods softlock when can you release gun
so as long as you dont release it on the first room its fine right
it doesnt matter when in the cutscene
yeah
very cool
I've sent you a very balanced trade request
I had to do that too
I wish they would just send texts with a number like everything else does
Yes
what the fuck is this app
yeah thats shit
it literally says
logged in as ptkyr
and then tells me to log in
?????????????????????
wow doxxed
how do i even accept this
ah i simply had to do the exact same thing as i did on pc except on my phone
because apparently my phone is more secure
ok what
it now says
to confirm it with the app
which i just did

Ok that might be good
When steam gives me that in the app it usually means it worked one of the previous times
So now it can't do it again
You don't have anything to confirm right now.
Yes I have cards
he's done it
what a gamer
now i must ask one of the 3 friends who has the best game card
one of these is knightmere
hello knightmere
do i have it
no
unlucky

top ten coop comebacks??
what a rollercoaster of emotions
he's got fast bricks
he's got fast qps
what a monster
and he's choked it to nothing
what a coop move
๐


ah yes "the thing"
is eating ash healthy
It's definitely not healthy for ash
missing 8 rockets however is
are there benefits to eating ash
The ivory would probably kill you
is that a benefit?
He was too far away
You could have tried walking at him after the missile but it might not have worked either way
Too far isn't usually an issue
He spawned at the edge of the screen and was walking away
Really bad luck
awesome
whats the equivalent of failing a cdash in icono
probably stomping next to a slope or something
or stomping right next to a red thing in tower
๐
which totally does not happen 50% of the time for me
same
Charging wrench to 99% instead of full
also how come tapping the wrench is better for dps than just spinning it
does it do reduced damage if you spin it?
does spin even do anything
idk spin is slow
ok but im asking why thats the case
probably does not a lot
since i do it accidentally on robots sometimes
and it does nothing but 2 bombs kills
i see
Space man
pogtus
im assuming the ice block counts number of hits and not damage
Yeah
https://youtu.be/8B_TKKFy95o insane spin
1:11
same
lmao are you just literally unkillable in relaxed
you take 0 damage

looks like i cant run relaxed any% no airswim now 


so how do you deal with turtles
lets say they are right on top of a wrenchable thing
do you just spam wrench until it grabs the thing
or bait the turtle or what
you reset
same
Bait it and parry it
It'll grab the thing with the same hit as the parry
If that fails reset
cool
@fading finch
wow til theres a fast travel point in tower
is this game knowledge

Wait that's one of the ones you don't have to unlock
is this game knowledge
Yes
Ok so you get blockrock, isi, shard, and shockwoods free
Then there's tower
Darland isn't missable
ocw is the next one
I think the only one after that is impact
agreed
can we mute 56 again
rise to the ranks of speedrun mods, convince admins to put speedrun mod at a higher level than moderators, mute 56 yourself, ez
i do believe speedrun.com mods can indeed mute modding staff
not too sure how that works but they are higher on the list or something
i dont think they have muting perms tbh

Where is my fucking Iconoclasts stream 
Lowest rank that can mute people is team cherry
and they havent got Manage Roles perms
Yeah I was just checking and I don't see anything special on them
Same permissions as everyone
Permission to be red
Yeah that's it
Damn
Technically I could still mute 56 if I really wanted to
I would just have to make a new role below myself and remove message perms from it
I do like how this sounds
wait I mean 
hey guys im new to this can u guys reccomend me some qol mods?
theres a mod thats literally named QOL
uhh i dont remember the full details but mass trinket selling at lemm, dashmaster no longer doing a down dash if youre pressing left/right, skippable cutscene stuff
oh
any other good mods that dont change the game majorly?
uhh most of the mods are designed to change up alot of stuff so, is this your first playthrough?
oh yeah theres a healthbar mod yeah
but if this is your first playthrough then tbh hollow knight is fine without mods for first playthroughs
but if you really want your healthbars then yes theres a mod for that
qol not qol enough 
do you guys have a link for ModCommon.dll?
Thanks!
modinstaller puts it into your mods folder automatically
oh really?
yes
huh
da faq
downloading modinstaller again fixed it
something something gj kuro
I'm installing rider on my new pc so I can actually code and compile in reasonable time
(my old pc takes like 5 min just to open rider)
how old is that pc
not really that old tbh
it's just a very overloaded laptop
like, I have 8gigs of ram, and I'm constantly using 6+ of those
and then I try to launch rider on top of that
when di skurrypls do wr thinh
56, I'm trying compact mode right now, and all I have to say is
why do you do this?
Except 56
wdym sean and 56 use it unironically iirc
yeah but 56 doesnt exist
who?
Hit there, does anyone here use the bonfiremod, I am having trouble with that one. After restarting my game it seems not to acknowledge strength and intelligence stats correctly. I am seemingly doing same damage with both nail and 'fireball' as unupgraded.
1st word was supposed to be hi.
๐ฉ
Compact mode is life
why does the mod installer completly not work?
but it does
oh you changed names
show
also, are you perhaps running a pirated version of HK?
it won't work in that case
what do you mean by pirated?
ummm
where did you acquire hollow knight
@copper nacelle did you ever send that PR?
@pastel edge show me what the installer doesn when you launch it
it's fine
"OMG an exe, must be bad"
say it's fine
Windows defender is a virus. Delete it
^
Slows down your PC more than anything else
might as well be imo
I hate it
^

where had you downloaded it from previously?
I downloaded it again
Inb4 moddb
I gotta take that down smh
Yes u do
Also, did Team Cherry give a release date for The Hornet Dlc?
No
oh. oof.
checkupdate is what broke using other paths but the problem with checkupdate is it needs to first change directory to the one containing the installer
or I guess you can just straight up disable it instead of solving the problem
also gradow I need to make you a new account on the server
so dm me if you have like 5 minutes
and I'll set ya all up
56 fixed that last night, AA
that and another small thing
and sent a pr
but forgot to uncomment that
ah I see
ah fuck
is there an option in the debug mod to remove the fucking empty textbox that won't leave me alone
what
a dialogue box is softlocked onto my screen lol
talk to someone
i'll try
56 if that pr is good, I'll just accept it and fix that comment later
I gotta add some things too
i fixed it
o
i think the version i actually put up didn't have it commented out
Yes
Hellloo people again
So I have a lot of questions
And Iโm trying to limit them one a day
How do THKs, hornet 2s and hive knights phases work?
And maybe some other ones Iโm forgetting
how are you not mola
I am mola <3
there's just hp thresholds
I thought it was just someone with a similar name and questionable personality traits
Would be great to have the hp values then
I think it's more % based rather than an actual number
it's effectively the same, since the HP is fixed
but still
Thatโs fine too
Vut
Spawns bees
Really
He doesnโt do it first phase
I always thought he's doing it consistently
first phase he just hits you
Thatโs only for ascended iirc
after a threshold he summons bee rain
hive knight has hp scaling
so it has to be % based, right?
no
And yet his is the only one whoโs a set value?
hive knight is one where it isn't % based

pv is % based
this makes precisely TC% sense
this game is programmed good
no it's not consistent

Ah yeah
bugs by 56
oh no!!!!
thank god
Hm any values hp or percent or otherwise, would be good to have those numbers down
I would but I can't run the fsm viewer
Rip
For PV I think it's 1/2 and 1/4
No shit Sherlock
u
I already got the PV ones I think
If it's 59 and 25%
Thanks
50*
Itโs mostly the other ones that are confusing
Hornet 2 doesnโt seem to do it at 50% but at a higher one
Hive Knight could be 50%
But heโs a set value so
...
Yeah itโs hard to figure out
hornet is deepnest right
hmm
they moved it right?
Kingdoms edge used to be deepnest
Deepnest east is east of ancient basin
Which is kingdoms edge
So yeah that should be hornet two
Oh
Lol alright thanks for the help so far!
If I can find AA or someone else to help Iโll let you know
(Like abyssal alchemist)
How did we end up with two AAs
inb4 original AA is angered
yeah this is the kind of thing that would be way too much effort to dump without that one windows program
you could do it
but ehhhh
@_@
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
it wouldn't be bad if the scene dumps actually had values
Abyssal vs Avenging: Civil War


sigh
correct
unfortunate
๐ก
were you going to try and make a boss fight out of it?
maybe
a whole 1 attack 
hmmmmmm
thank you very cool
incredible, I just spent the last 4 and a half hours trying to reinstall ubuntu
I love it so much
huh
how does it take you 4 and a half hours
what are you trying to do
do you need help
reeeeeeee enter key
well I dont need help anymore. At first it only brought the grub terminal thing instead of launching ubuntu. Once I got that working, I realized I accidentally only gave ubuntu 60 gb of storage and over all it was a terrible experience.
...ok
I'll have plenty of questions for you soon though
well if you ever need help installing linux hmu I got hiro 100% setup with it in like, 30 minutes or so
inc things like, the most up to date gpu drivers for amd
epic gamer
me irl
what's the point of a playable hornet if you're just going to give her the same abilities as the knight
sigh
this is an even bigger sigh tbh
AA I am going to assume the computer I'm using is just really bad because it's taking an hour just to upgrade everything
uhh
what kind of harddrive does it have
also what version of ubuntu did you dump on it
i found his next post
sigh
inb4 posts a thread on every single move
tbh I'm going to help the poor guy out and give him the hornet sprite sheet
waiting for my pirated copy of windows 7 to download so I have nothing better to do
the fuck is this 56
if it's an intel/amd system and you wanna game on it I would personally recommend getting the beta gpu drivers
wtf why would I get anything related to linux for gaming
is it necessary to do cornywoker in a message but also react wokester
yes
89% game compatibility on a system that is lighter weight and loads faster and has better borderless windowed mode and on low end systems even runs faster sounds like good reasons as any @ornate rivet
scroll up a bit
I dont have any problems regarding game speed on my windows computer though
mind if i take 6 millennia to cache
but your windows computer isn't a low end laptop
I'm not saying it is. I just said why would I get something related to linux for gaming
mine sure is 
i dunno I just prefer the general UX
and I don't like pirating software
big risk of malware
and I sure af won't pay for windows
and also
7 is gonna be supportn't in 1 year
so
speaking of malware
I'm getting windows 7 for virtualbox to analyse malware
hehe
not to use it as a computer
idk if it matters but for vms analysing anything kvm is the fastest and safest virtual machine hypervisor
it's also linux exclusive
but why not get 10
windows 7 is more vulnerable
because virtualbox wouldn't run it for some reason
kvm
and cuckoo sandbox doesn't support windows 10 as a guest virtual machine
also not only do I disagree with the vulnerability thing but MS also predistributes official legit non pirated virtual machines for 10
again, cuckoo sandbox, which is an app that automatically gives reports on the malware using a virtual machine, does not support windows 10 as a guest
windows 7 sp1 is definitely more vulnerable than windows 10
I would use kvm since I am using ubuntu as host but most of the guides for cuckoo sandbox use virtualbox
so cuckoo sandbox is installed in the host system?
I see how it works and how you would set it up with kvm but I'm really bad at explaining stuff so my recommendation is to use virtualbox
since there's guides for that already lul
understandable
I already tried installing it before but I kept getting network connection issues so I might come for help later
@forest thorn
The example mods don't work anymore (unless they have been fixed), they just provide good structure
but the errors you are getting are not because of the example mods

it's because you are not referencing the right stuff
How do I reference the right stuff?
so what you need to do:
you'll want to right click on references and do Add reference
then go to browse
Mhmm
and find the correct files so to fix the Modding not found error...
yeah the example mods are broken but they should compile
Would it be this?
yes
you want assembly-csharp.dll
select that and press ok
that should fix most of your errors
Just built, thank you!
yay
As AA said, it compiles correctly but when you put it in the mod folder and run the game, it will not work
I see
hitless city escape 

sometimes my taskbar stays over the game
kinda annoying
am i allowed to bind a numpad key to my spacebar to make dodgerolls easier?
so usually i'd use the spacebar to jump but i'd do like 62 for dodgerolls
@rain cedar
is this against the rules
Idk I'm not a mod
But in my opinion multiple buttons for one action should be fine
Just not one button for multiple actions
cool
just clip it yourself
no
where is pepothumb

not that one silly, the ffz one

idk I haven't gotten far
what THE FUCK
gun double jumping is cool
get further then 
oh what
further and farther are separate words????
i feel lied to
shit language in my honest imho


i now have a hot city escape 
can't relate
misspelling nice two different ways in a row 
probably no

Buy Hollow Knight. Hollow Knight on Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/ Other playlists: https://www.youtube.com/user/Flikffxi/playlists Thanks ...
At 4 minutes 50 seconds of this video
What is happening
DD getting kicked out of the ground when the knight doesn't do anything?
That was baldur shell activating I think
That somehow forced him out like dive normally does
dd is the jankiest boss in the game
same
it loaded instantly ๐ฎ
hot
why is he spitting out a floating keyway
can yall check my question in modding help
answered
wow saleh how do you get to the modding help channel i can't see it
wait theres a modding help channel
yes there is a tech support channel where people can ask their questions and call us a "helpful" community if we dont answer within 5 minutes
#archived-modding-help-obvious-pirates
what
what is the "art" mod in the modinstaller
what mods would you say are needed basically
chaos mod
wut
double cdash
thats for pete
oh right
This is why sites like stackoverflow are cancer
yes
stackoverflow is the worst to interact with for anyone but people who just browse it
correct
(closed as duplicate to: completely different problem)
the randomizer is completely broken for me
in what way
randomizer 2
what sounds better: Disable all mods or Revert to vanilla?
former
Disable all mods sounds better
whenever i start a game in normal mode it glitches to wierd screens than spawns me in the grown in grimms boss fight
delete sys32 imo
k
revert to vanilla helps normalize the term vanilla though
have you installed the daughter of hallownest mod
yes
well it makes my game black and i cant do anything
@solemn rivet whoops 
i was just about to donate 1 billion dollars to gradow but the button was gone oh well
i guess you will just have to invest them in iconoclasts copies for the whole hk discord ๐
currently implementing AA's suggestion
of backing up the vanilla assembly
how's it look?
good
should I remove the text inside the parenthesis?
capitalize it imo
where is the install iconoclasts button
Does the installer save whether you've reverted though
yup
Pog
really just replace the donation button for the link to the iconoclastss steam page
the only issue is I'm assuming a clean install
for those who have replaced the vanilla assembly with api, it'll just ask to verify
because I need that dll
put that dll on the drive easy
@cunning lagoon i waited forever
gradow did you pirate the game
yes
2edgy7me

go buy it on steam
im guessing you like the game so the developers deserve your money

jokes dont exist 

edgy
wait it is
pensivebread < pensiveloaf
sry
i can't believe edgy was exposed as a pirate by against spray butter
thank you mr. asb for revealing the truth to us

to say what?
die
you wrench + right when robin stops moving right
to the best of my knowledge you have to not hold any directional input before pressing wrench
hold swap and wrench when she stops moving yes
then you move around and if you're all janky you got it
or the trigger rather
he's done it 

56 stream
this to be tbh
I'm on a laptop
stream
hi on a laptop
does anyone know of a enimy randomizer that is working
56 stream shitty computer
288p if you have to
I'll stream after the 56 stream
56 you know what to do

does anyone know of a enimy randomizer that is working





