he did
#archived-modding-development
weak lodge
he did yes
copper nacelle
ree
copper nacelle
Ah yes
I can barely even tell what transitions to what
like tf
Oh hey
That's why SmallShot HighLow was so weird
It was a rip off of thk
cunning lagoon
can you even call yourself a modder if you are not able to read this fsm
cunning lagoon
i can't believe 56 just yoinked an attack from tc
copper nacelle
They left it in
Their fault
ah yes
Oh they just start from either side
I can literally just clone this because this was a clone from the start
PV's small shot is literally a copy-paste of THK's small shot
except they removed HighLow
cunning lagoon
cunning lagoon
did they change the avenging one
floral furnace
using lists 
/s /s /s
copper nacelle
If they had used lists this would be about 10x easier
Instead I have to convert all of their arrays
then add the stuff
then convert back
Or just resize
cunning lagoon
just tell them to hire you for hornet dlc so these things dont hgappen again
just assassinate wilbo and replace him
floral furnace
kuro u dungo you cant assassinate them cuz theyre literally just AI's smh not even updated on TC lore
copper nacelle
You ever clone about 80 billion states and then realize that you have to re-link them too
cunning lagoon
i only care about icono lore sorry
floral furnace
lmao just link it with a loop its that ez lmao xd or are you gonna have to manually specify each?
floral furnace
oof
floral furnace
the hell are these states for
copper nacelle
SmallShot
floral furnace
dagger throw?
cunning lagoon
floral furnace
n i c e
cunning lagoon
im addicted to this stupid frog
floral furnace
do you liquify frogs and inject them
copper nacelle
Wow nice all the transitions use strings too
dusky lion
weak lodge
What a lad
cunning lagoon
weak lodge
Dee ell koo rosh
floral furnace
ech lamdba o🅱erators
weak lodge
cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
doing things more than once 
Local functions 
floral furnace
i honestly keep forgetting how to use them because, i dont use them, except ternaries i abuse the shit out of it now
copper nacelle
don't worry that'll happen with local functions too
floral furnace
s o 🅱 n
daring snow
copper nacelle
@floral furnace l o 🅱 a l f u n c t i o n s
floral furnace
global functions 🤔
copper nacelle
local
floral furnace
i know i just misread it smh
copper nacelle
copper nacelle
Functions inside functions
floral furnace
so can you just like
int outsidefunc(){
do stuff here
int inside func(){ return 5 }
return 1
}
and thisll work right
cunning lagoon
yeah
copper nacelle
yes
floral furnace
or does it require a more ""specific"" syntax for it to work
thanks kuro
no thanks to you 56 smh took you long enough /s
copper nacelle
Can also use expression bodies
e.g ```cs
int Outside(string in1, string in2)
{
MagicFunction(string @in) => Math.Pow(@in.Length * 2 + 3, 2);
return MagicFunction(in1) + MagicFunction(in2);
}
hnggg lamda operators
copper nacelle
it's just shorthand
floral furnace
but i get it now
its just that, unless i force myself ill probably forget about it again
cunning lagoon
yea ur mods gay
cunning lagoon
👊 talk to the hand
copper nacelle
🖖🏿
floral furnace
nice star wars reference
copper nacelle
look at the emote name tbh
cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
did you know you can't commit suicide during nkg's intro
cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
ikr
it's not tc
fuck
that's a pain
Oh
It's probably NoHardSaves
it is
i can now blame sean
cunning lagoon
NoHardSaves is part of qol therefore it's your fault
cunning lagoon
you accepted it
copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
dusky lion
hes right, 56
cunning lagoon
you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about
weak lodge
High low
copper nacelle
LowHigh
weak lodge
What exactly did you change
copper nacelle
everything
weak lodge
God
copper nacelle
you ever comment out a huge block of code you added and have the bug remain
cunning lagoon
this is so dumb
im locked out of 2 icono achievements because steam is retarded
i have to do a new `plñaythrough
which i was gonna do anyway but still
copper nacelle
Thanks! ❤ 😄
floral furnace
goddamn it kuro im playing video games here eh 😤
cunning lagoon
sorry i did not realize you were a gamer 
floral furnace
yeah thats right you dont wanna mess with me and my in game character
cunning lagoon
s-sorry mr ttacco
dusky lion
I bet my ingame character, shadowknife blade storm 420_xxx, a level 47 necromancer could beat your character
copper nacelle
you ever listen to cocaine
copper nacelle
clap
cunning lagoon
@floral furnace you can also use expression bodies
floral furnace
it would be funny if i wasnt so pissed right now
copper nacelle
but why
floral furnace
goddamn beetle fucks doing 6 trillion damage while my entire party is stunned for 5 fucking turns
nah just the weather its a bit on my nerves today 🙂
so uhh, fsms yeah
copper nacelle
when is gun mod release 
fair rampart
FSMs are bullshit and RNG
floral furnace
when pale prince hornet dlc is out
copper nacelle
ouch
cunning lagoon
real gamers get angry at themselves and not at the game they are playing
floral furnace
real gamers get angry at games they havent played at all yet 😤
copper nacelle
Actually tho pale prince is looking fairly close to done
I just want to add some new attacks like I'm doing rn
wow ok
cunning lagoon
pale prince is 🐮 💩 & 🎰
floral furnace
i said hornet dlc tho 🤔
fair rampart
triumph is the new weary
copper nacelle
ngl you deserve that think
floral furnace
nice are you adding elderbug: the last vessel as a boss fight too
copper nacelle
????????
fair rampart
it starts twice?
copper nacelle
no
One log is for start of state
One log is for end of state
Arc Antic should go to Arc Start
fair rampart
oh
copper nacelle
foreach (FsmTransition trans in clone.Transitions)
{
if(!states.Select(CloneName).Contains(trans.ToState)) continue;
_control.ChangeTransition(clone.Name, trans.EventName, CloneName(trans.ToState));
}
am i stupid
inb4 yes
weak lodge
yessssssss
copper nacelle
die
weak lodge
not like a boss?
copper nacelle
correct
fair rampart
As Saleh once said: Yas
fair rampart
fuck I didn't screenshot
copper nacelle
Good
Okay I fixed it
Now I just need to fix the attack GameObject
Does FlingObjectsFromGlobalPoolTime set the thing active?
fair rampart
That is a longass method name
fair rampart
PV be like
"Give up! You cannot win! Just quit while you can!"
fair rampart
trying to make Carefree Meoldy + Joni spawn Lifeseeds. Eventually I just settled on using a coroutine that added the Lifeblood directly
copper nacelle
but why would you use the object pool
Instantiate is your friend
You just have to set them active after
copper nacelle
How do you try yourself?
cunning lagoon
oh god oh fuck
fair rampart
To make discord realize I am not idle, I have click out of the window, then back in
fair rampart
What is it not shooting? I thought you already had the projectiles in Pale Prince working
fair rampart
why would doing the same thing you did for the other projectiles not work?
copper nacelle
because the other projectiles aren't spawned by fsms
cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
the good ol copy the entire fsm action and rework it until it's not shit
fair rampart
If you ever rework THK FSM, good luck
copper nacelle
No I'm reworking FlingObjectsFromGlobalPool
you see
I'm just replacing Spawn with instantiate
making everything not fsm fields
and a few other things
and it'll just work™
floral furnace
DAB
D - estroy
A - ll
B - FSMs
copper nacelle
ah yes
it still doesn't work
NullReferenceException
at (wrapper managed-to-native) UnityEngine.Object:INTERNAL_CALL_Internal_InstantiateSingle (UnityEngine.Object,UnityEngine.Vector3&,UnityEngine.Quaternion&)
at UnityEngine.Object.Internal_InstantiateSingle (UnityEngine.Object data, Vector3 pos, Quaternion rot) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate (UnityEngine.Object original, Vector3 position, Quaternion rotation) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate[GameObject] (UnityEngine.GameObject original, Vector3 position, Quaternion rotation) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Pale_Prince.Prince+<>c__DisplayClass13_1.<Start>b__6 () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Pale_Prince.InvokeMethod.OnEnter () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at HutongGames.PlayMaker.FsmState.ActivateActions (Int32 startIndex) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at HutongGames.PlayMaker.FsmState.OnEnter () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at HutongGames.PlayMaker.Fsm.EnterState (HutongGames.PlayMaker.FsmState state) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at HutongGames.PlayMaker.Fsm.SwitchState (HutongGames.PlayMaker.FsmState toState) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at HutongGames.PlayMaker.Fsm.UpdateStateChanges () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at HutongGames.PlayMaker.Fsm.UpdateState (HutongGames.PlayMaker.FsmState state) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at HutongGames.PlayMaker.Fsm.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at PlayMakerFSM.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
thank you unity very cool
cunning lagoon
🤢
copper nacelle
this is what i get for trying to make my code cleaner
fair rampart
Pale_Prince.Prince+<>c__DisplayClass13_1.<Start>b__6 ()
that's a coroutine, right?
copper nacelle
Yeah
cunning lagoon
yes
fair rampart
why do coroutines look so weird after getting compiled?
copper nacelle
Because they're just fancy syntax for iterators
Have you seen what a coroutine actually looks like?
fair rampart
You mean before getting compiled?
copper nacelle
No; after
fair rampart
yes to both
copper nacelle
Not the dnSpy version
dnSpy makes coroutines readable
stiches them back together
fair rampart
that's considered readable?
copper nacelle
Yeah
cunning lagoon
yup
cunning lagoon
@floral furnace you can also use expression bodies
floral furnace
die
cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
floral furnace
i fucking swear, i hope, that the next time you play hollow knight
you fuck up your crystal dash again, but only once
mortal trout
floral furnace
noone deserves to fail their cdash 2 times 😔
copper nacelle
Let's take a quick look at an example coroutine
fair rampart
Kurosh, play RNG, so that you can blame the game for CDash fuck ups
floral furnace
i n p u t l a g : ^ )
copper nacelle
Here's a coroutine which waits a frame before doing some simple edits to a FSM
Nothing amazingly complicated
DnSpy version is pretty good as well
cunning lagoon
Its already the games fault since i dont Makes misyales
copper nacelle
Main difference is taking the bool out of the if and an extra yield break which is otherwise implicit
and formatting ofc
Now let's see it non-stiched
floral furnace
i never understood how coroutines require a return type (because its asking for a IEnumerator type right) but yield return null doesnt actually stop the coroutine 🤔
weak lodge
fair rampart
just screenshot it?
floral furnace
just send it over those txt websites
copper nacelle
fuck you discord
weak lodge
Thanks discord
copper nacelle
Time to split it into two messages 
weak lodge
Very cool
copper nacelle
[CompilerGenerated]
private sealed class <AbsRadSkip>d__9 : IEnumerator<object>, IDisposable, IEnumerator
{
[DebuggerHidden]
public <AbsRadSkip>d__9(int <>1__state)
{
this.<>1__state = <>1__state;
}
[DebuggerHidden]
void IDisposable.Dispose()
{
}
bool IEnumerator.MoveNext()
{
int num = this.<>1__state;
if (num != 0)
{
if (num != 1)
{
return false;
}
this.<>1__state = -1;
this.<control>5__1 = GameObject.Find("Boss Control").LocateMyFSM("Control");
UnityEngine.Object.Destroy(GameObject.Find("Sun"));
UnityEngine.Object.Destroy(GameObject.Find("feather_particles"));
this.<control>5__1.GetAction("Setup", 6).time = 1.5f;
this.<control>5__1.RemoveAction("Setup", 5);
this.<control>5__1.RemoveAction("Setup", 4);
this.<control>5__1.ChangeTransition("Setup", "FINISHED", "Eye Flash");
this.<control>5__1.GetAction("Title Up", 6).time = 1f;
return false;
}
else
{
this.<>1__state = -1;
bool flag = this.arg1.name != "GG_Radiance";
if (flag)
{
return false;
}
this.<>2__current = null;
this.<>1__state = 1;
return true;
}
}
object IEnumerator<object>.Current
{
[DebuggerHidden]
get
{
return this.<>2__current;
}
}
[DebuggerHidden]
void IEnumerator.Reset()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
object IEnumerator.Current
{
[DebuggerHidden]
get
{
return this.<>2__current;
}
}
private int <>1__state;
private object <>2__current;
public Scene arg1;
private PlayMakerFSM <control>5__1;
}
👀
copper nacelle
As you can see
It's a bit different
just a bit
So the main thing to note here is that it's an iterator with no yield returns
fair rampart
You see that stuff in dnspy be turning on the compiler generated stuff
copper nacelle
MoveNext is instead separated by each yield return
Yeah
Or just not decompiling coroutines
which are enumerators
So MoveNext gives the same thing the iterator would have given on a move next
effectively
Current is the thing it would give (null, orig, etc)
And MoveNext is whether or not you can move next
Which is where you would execute your code
Yield break would return false as you cannot move next any farther
Yield return null would return true as you can as you're not at the end yet
@floral furnace This is why yield return null doesn't stop the coroutine
Because it's just an iterator
This is just the next element in the "sequence"
The return type is an IEnumerator because you're returning what's known as a lazy sequence
Which doesn't get executed until you try and get the next element via MoveNext
yield return null is setting current to null
which tells Unity to wait a frame
floral furnace
understandable
copper nacelle
break is leaving current as-is
but returning false from move next
which stops the while loop which runs a coroutine
You know how to move through iterators right?
IEnumerator e = whatever;
while(e.MoveNext())
{
DoWhatever(e.Current);
}
This is what unity is effectively doing in the backend
That DoWhatever check will execute any coroutines yielded recursively and wait a frame if e.Current is null
Which is why stack traces look fucked
It can't tell you stuff because that stuff no longer exists
It's now part of an implicit iterator class
<> is used in compiler generated shit
weak lodge
Why did 56 just started starting his sentences with capitals
weak lodge
Like a boss
copper nacelle
This is a compiler generated iterator for the method Start
And within that iterator is another sub-class for the local method
Because local methods do something similar
They create their own classes with fields of captured variables
this is probably the +<c>__DisplayClass
weak lodge
56 
level mobile typing skill or deliberately starting sentences with capitals?
copper nacelle
Local function
It's not because it's a coroutine
It's because dnspy doesn't understand local functions
Use e.g ILSpy and it'll show you
Or just turn on compiler generated stuff
And you'll see the captured vars
See
It moved the local function out
That's actually this
With yours however
You use variables such as self
Which aren't parameters
They're implicitly captured by the creation of that function
And as a result the compiler has to take those variables out with the local function
To do this, it moves them into a class
That <>c__DisplayClass stuff is a reference to that class
that's why it's setting the vars for that class
so that the local method can use them
Do you want an easier example or do you get it?
fair rampart
I think I get it
copper nacelle
Okay cool
copper nacelle
¯_(ツ)_/¯
copper nacelle
Probably class
If you want more info you can ask the advanced section of the C# server
I'm not very knowledgeable about compiler generated names
I just know that the <> is to stop it from having the same name as your stuff
Because you aren't able to use <>
But the compiler is
The channel is called lowlevel-advanced or something
cunning lagoon
Wont sent
cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
Same
floral furnace
is this the legendary C# Gang Club 🤔
copper nacelle
.
copper nacelle
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
fair rampart
how did you even do that typo
copper nacelle
He's just that skilled
floral furnace
56 how tf did you learn all these in depth compiler stuff
fair rampart
on my keyboard, ` on the top left, and p is on the top right
copper nacelle
I was just trying to decompile Terraria code and they used a local function
I couldn't see it
And it had the <>c__ stuff
So I made my own test dll and tried out local functions in it
Still couldn't see it
cunning lagoon
Dlk*
copper nacelle
Turned on compiler generated stuff
Then I could see it
Looked at how it worked
Saw something similar when I looked at a coroutine
And then I just left it on because it's more useful than not
cunning lagoon
fair rampart
looking through google images and I don't see a keyboard where ` in near p
copper nacelle
copper nacelle
yw
leaden hedge
well its pretty common in espanol
cunning lagoon
Nathan its called ñ 
leaden hedge
why don't they just write a y after the n 🤔
fair rampart
nya
cunning lagoon
Cause that would mean a diffeewnt thing?
copper nacelle
enye
cunning lagoon
Ny wouldnt be pronounxed like it is in english
fair rampart
how is it pronounxed?
copper nacelle
enye
copper nacelle
fair rampart
also, I love substituting the letter c for x
copper nacelle
xreator of xharm overhaul™
cunning lagoon
For example if you write piraña as piranya it Makes no sense
floral furnace
kuro i shall use my limited spanish to communicate 
ehem
p u t a n g i n a
fair rampart
p sure it's piranha
copper nacelle
have you heard of spanish
cunning lagoon
Thats in english, not spanish 
leaden hedge
i mean it sounds like prianya to me
fair rampart
KDT I was joking about Kurosh spelling "pronounced" as "pronounxed"
cunning lagoon
The sound isnt the same at all
fair rampart
For me to type ñ, I have to do alt+num164
cunning lagoon
Thanks nsthan
copper nacelle
For me to type ñ, I have to do Ctrl-V
cunning lagoon
For me to type ñ, i have to tap ñ
copper nacelle
😩
solemn rivet
ñ
copper nacelle
muerate
leaden hedge
just cause you can't pronounce y properly doesn't mean ñ doesnt make an ny sound
cunning lagoon
What do you mean properly
fair rampart
OwO
cunning lagoon
Thats how its pronounced in this language therefore it doesnt Makes sense for it to be spelled as nya
fair rampart
emphasis on "Makes"
cunning lagoon
Thats autocorrext's thing
fair rampart
you have autocorrect?
copper nacelle
nice
cunning lagoon
I added make as a word nos it should be fine
copper nacelle
@solemn rivet ñ
fair rampart
what tf is wrong with your autocorrect?
solemn rivet
ñhh
cunning lagoon
Ñ^2
copper nacelle
Yeah +- 42069 years
solemn rivet
cool
cunning lagoon
solemn rivet
is FSM gone yet?
cunning lagoon
Yes fsm is
solemn rivet
what a time to be alive
fair rampart
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516675581622878209/530070776892751887/godtierautocorrect.png
amazing how the only thing autocorrect wanted to correct was the thing it wasn't supposed to
cunning lagoon
Im visiting family and i already want to die
fair rampart
cjanges and autocorrext are totally fine
solemn rivet
I wish I was visiting family dlk
fair rampart
but makes has be corrected
solemn rivet
I'm stuck studying for my thesis
solemn rivet
play more icono
cunning lagoon
I finished it
fair rampart
juf plsy icono again
cunning lagoon
Im learning any% no airswim
leaden hedge
oh i see, spanish people just wanted to be special 
copper nacelle
The fabled sean bop
cunning lagoon
Or i would if i was home
leaden hedge
every other language uses nh, nj or ny for palatal nasals
cunning lagoon
Yes this language does indeed pronounce words differently than others
solemn rivet
scrub dlk can't even airswim, so just runs the scrub category
leaden hedge
nothing to do with pronounciation
leaden hedge
makes perfect sense
solemn rivet
^ this, but 50% sarcastically
cunning lagoon
Yes the good old though thorough thought Makes lots of sense
leaden hedge
the only reason ny/nj/nh doesn't make the sound you associate with it cause they arbitrarily decided to use ñ 600 years ago
fair rampart
wow your autocorrect really just won't stop capitalizing "makes"
hollow pier
makes is his name
fair rampart
but it won't correct actual mistakes
leaden hedge
and yes ough can be pronounced lots of ways
weak lodge
Autocorrect is a sin
copper nacelle
u
weak lodge
colour
copper nacelle
There's another way to spell fence?
hollow pier
fense duh
leaden hedge
well they spell fence correct
but defence wrong
even though they are same root word
solemn rivet
pheñçe duh
leaden hedge
well its not greek so ph is way out of the question
weak lodge
Yes
copper nacelle
Defence
fair rampart
who spells "defense" as "defence"?
weak lodge
Defence
leaden hedge
defence is correct
weak lodge
^
cunning lagoon
Yeah 56 tell your xountry to lwarn how to spell words correcrlt
solemn rivet
that's offencive
leaden hedge
you can spell fence correctly
fense looks stupid af
but somehow you managed to get defense
weak lodge
Offencive or offensive ?
hollow pier
practise
cunning lagoon
Bwgone
weak lodge
Begome
leaden hedge
practice and practise are different words
weak lodge
^
hollow pier
one is a verb yes
cunning lagoon
What is pratise
leaden hedge
a typo
cunning lagoon
Oh
weak lodge
Prat
leaden hedge
you know what else is dumb lazer
don't they know its an acronym
you can't just put z's in there
weak lodge
So we all agree the American spelling is gay
cunning lagoon
Too muxh mc donalds imo
cunning lagoon
Wait whats the correct way
hollow pier
laxer
weak lodge
Laser
cunning lagoon
Of speling lazser
leaden hedge
light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation
cunning lagoon
Spelling
copper nacelle
Who the fuck says lazer
cunning lagoon
Ive actually never se en lazer
leaden hedge
its pretty easy to remember because theres basically no words beginning with z other than zebra or zoo
copper nacelle
the answer is no one
fair rampart
Seriously, wtf is wrong with your autocorrect
leaden hedge
its much more common in america
cunning lagoon
Shut up
weak lodge
Hey look gradow
solemn rivet
lazer means leisure in ptbr
hollow pier
lixo 
weak lodge
How do we pronounce Pizza
leaden hedge
its obviously not correct in american cause of you know the fact its an acronym, you can't replace letters
but if they could they would FeelsBadMan
copper nacelle
Holy shit lmao
weak lodge
™A0
copper nacelle
i have witnessed the god attack
hollow pier
incredible discord crash
copper nacelle
weak lodge
incredible
hollow pier
watch streamable
cunning lagoon
Im not qasting my data on this
weak lodge
Lord fool
hollow pier
data 
weak lodge
Goodbye Kurosh
copper nacelle
imagine thk's infection chest shot attack
except it's super slow
and shoots lances
cunning lagoon
Please dont send gif emotes you will overheat my phone
copper nacelle
but the lances drop like rocks
hollow pier
copper nacelle
leaden hedge
lanxes
weak lodge
I’m underage
copper nacelle
Because it's what TC says
cunning lagoon
Or send a 10p streamable so i can watch
hollow pier
cunning lagoon
I dissbled animated emojis
weak lodge
hollow pier
guess what it's static
cunning lagoon
Same
weak lodge
Statical
copper nacelle
no
weak lodge
Reverse
copper nacelle
cease
weak lodge
ccease
hollow pier
any bord
copper nacelle
How do you add something to a SendRandomEventV3
I tried just adding something to every field but it just dies
cunning lagoon
If you dont stoo memeing now im telling benji
hollow pier
hi benji
copper nacelle
I love how this channel went from compiler generated fields to whatever the fuck this is
weak lodge
Wasn’t simo fine with your memery or am I retard as usual
cunning lagoon
Well Yes you are s retard
weak lodge
I am s retard
cunning lagoon
I dont know avout sino though
copper nacelle
Cease
weak lodge
It’s almost like kurosh’s hands are as big as mine
hollow pier
is this modding staff
civic hare
holy shit pale prince's flaccid knife attack tho
cunning lagoon
You are getting nutedvidiot
weak lodge
Modding staff more like green name lounge
weak lodge
Send
cunning lagoon
Send low quality streamable
hollow pier
erect knives
weak lodge
Send me to your french girls
rain cedar
🥖
weak lodge
There we go
hollow pier
what is that emote it doesn't exist
copper nacelle
consistency
weak lodge
Pete better taste the baguette or call modding staff
rain cedar
?
weak lodge
Image isn’t loading for him
copper nacelle
It's a baguette
weak lodge
Yes
copper nacelle
I had to replace FlingObjectsFromGlobalPoolSpawn because these objects don't exist until later
hollow pier
fuck mobile
weak lodge
Mobile is older than all of us
copper nacelle
Yeah same
I was using it earlier but the second I made any changes 1/3 bullets would just stop existing
https://streamable.com/mvl0z @weak lodge
rain cedar
Pooling objects isn't even gonna matter unless it's something like geo
Even then it's not that important
Idk why they put so much effort into it
copper nacelle
I was just trying to get it work because their actions use it
But then I gave up and just re-implemented their action but better
way easier
hollow pier
wr edit
rain cedar
I'm using their fling thing for geo in rando and it's working
copper nacelle
It works for me until I swap out the gameobject with literally anything else
Then it just says no and dies
rain cedar
Yeah
I had it working with a spike tink effect
Then it stopped working at some point, I don't even remember changing it
So I remade their tink component with not Spawn
copper nacelle
Yeah that's the same thing I did w/ fling
cunning lagoon
I can play pokemon emerald goodbye nerds
rain cedar
Bye
copper nacelle
Bye
weak lodge
Bye
rain cedar
👋
copper nacelle
you ever wish FSMs used lists instead of arrays
copper nacelle
weak lodge
this indeed
copper nacelle
Have you considered
making a mod in #archived-modding-development
instead of
shitposting for multiple hours in #archived-modding-development
It's a great idea
weak lodge
have you considered what time it is
copper nacelle
hmmmmmm
copper nacelle
weak lodge
bamboozles me saleh has less messages than i do here
weak lodge
copper nacelle
no
weak lodge
💨
copper nacelle
no
weak lodge
?
weak lodge
copper nacelle
no
marble scarab
modding hollow knight 
copper nacelle
fuck off
marble scarab
copper nacelle
whirling worlds 
marble scarab
atleast whirling world devs can actually make art
civic hare
more like pisskel art amirite hehhheheeh
hollow pier
all digital art is pixel art 
marble scarab
eroico emotes 
copper nacelle
abs rad
civic hare
my abs are rad
marble scarab
absrad is a abstad bit absbad
copper nacelle
no
marble scarab
copper nacelle
no
marble scarab
weak lodge
how2modHK
fair rampart
civic hare
just copy lost lord
hollow pier
at least copy a good mod
weak lodge
but lost lord is easier than lost kin
buoyant obsidian
hey guys
weak lodge
yes
hollow pier
buoyant obsidian
haven't talked here since last year
marble scarab
our lord has returned 
weak lodge
marble scarab
it's true tbh
weak lodge
lies
marble scarab
also needs more jpeg
marble scarab
copper nacelle
Idk it's where I started
You can clone mods of similar ideas and take a look at them ofc
I made hell mod from glass soul except I deleted everything in it
Aalek and Saleh based their boss buffs off lost lord iirc
And mantis gods took a lot from ngg
buoyant obsidian
Personally I code first then use whatever ended up working the best
When making Lightbringer I planned on it being a spell overhaul but the first thing I found was the beam attack
so I just rolled with it since it was easy to manipulate
copper nacelle
nice
I do that sometimes too
Like tendrils from the floor
They sucked
So now they're dead
fair rampart
like the tendrils in the abyss?
Mola said you should call it Pale Heir, and that Pale Prince is a stupid name
hollow pier
but then you can't make hilarious pp jokes
fair rampart
cunning lagoon
young walrus
weak lodge
pale prince sounds good wtf
ornate rivet
@copper nacelle those pv moves are epic
weak lodge
henlo saleh
cunning lagoon
Pin number
ornate rivet
pale prince is bretta fan fiction
the only reason tc didn't use it was because it was masculine
who pinged me
iron crown
knightmere make skrrtmod
ornate rivet
what is this
dawn oxide
oh god oh fuck
marble scarab
consider not making a hollow knight mod
ornate rivet
Papers is the greatest person of all time (not counting 56 of course)
marble scarab
are you adding more bosses to HoG
solemn rivet
papy > 56, clearly
iron crown
oh god oh fuck
weak lodge
what
ornate rivet
uhhh why is Bretta's head not a part of her body TC
hazy sentinel
that's just the blush face
buoyant obsidian
The second bench is there so they can offset where the knight sits so he can sit next to Bretta
native wing
ah
buoyant obsidian
they probably disable whatever component allows the knight to sit on the original bench and enable it on the 2nd bench when she's there
and the 2nd bench is always invisible
ornate rivet
should I take eternal ordeal out to fit pale champion or should I just add a statue
fair rampart
you could add a breakable wall in Zote's room that leads to it
ornate rivet
no why would I make it harder on myself.
fair rampart
well, not a breakable wall
just make a room up there for new statues
the Hall of Lost Gods
fair rampart
inb4 Pale Prince goes there
ornate rivet
but then I would have to make my mods compatible with each other
the way I do the statue teleportation is shitty so...
ornate rivet
I didn't change DoH's
ornate rivet
yea that's a feature*
fair rampart
™
copper nacelle
no thanks
ornate rivet
I didnt do that
copper nacelle
the image is you having less messages than knightmere and infinitely more mods
in modding
ornate rivet
is there a reason why all the HoG statues would have GPZ instead of the correct statue
fair rampart
Zote is All, Zote is One
trim totem
what is that?
ornate rivet
it's hall of gods in the unity editor
trim totem
oh
ornate rivet
the nail masters and pv are the only statues that aren't just gpz
oh and Dung defender's ball
ornate rivet
I am growing more confused by the second
cunning lagoon
Hi growing more confused by the second
fair rampart
Imagine if all the statues came to life and attacked you at once.
Who would win? 40+ bosses, or 1 empty boi
weak lodge
he not actually empty
ornate rivet
ok the edits I am making aren't working
weak lodge
what are you missing
ornate rivet
the new pale lurker statue I'm adding
weak lodge
oh
ornate rivet
weak lodge
oh ic
ornate rivet
(Papers made it btw)
copper nacelle
I love being wrong
ornate rivet
fair rampart
why is there so much bloom?
ornate rivet
bloom?
ornate rivet
ok
fair rampart
bloom, you know, all the glowy light stuff
copper nacelle
Check output log
ornate rivet
it's the glow that stays on screen for a quarter of a second when you're coming near a statue
weak lodge
light bloom
fair rampart
in your images of the editor, HoG is just white light everywhere
copper nacelle
saying light bloom is not how you make a mod 😡
rain cedar
light bloom
trim totem
56 show
trim totem
x
brazen mortar
@ornate rivet did you hire papers to make a pale lurker statue
copper nacelle
ur mom pale heir
brazen mortar
vessels have no gender
copper nacelle
implying i care
brazen mortar
copper nacelle
Pale heir has no alliteration
hazy sentinel
vure vessel
brazen mortar
Hale Heir
hazy sentinel
i mean what
brazen mortar
weak lodge
How2use example mods
copper nacelle
- clone
- edit
- profit
weak lodge
Is that really how it works
copper nacelle
yes
weak lodge
Nice
Fun when you haven’t opened up anything yet but you already know you’ll understand jack shit
compact sedge
I just call empty vessels "soulless asshole automatons" is that a good substitute for "pure vessel" @brazen mortar
(totally not cuz of any moth bias)
copper nacelle
copper nacelle
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