archived-modding-development

[copper nacelle]

no u

[weak lodge]

tc cocksucker codes better than tc apparently

[floral furnace]

[leaden hedge]

i could probably pick a random person of the street

and have a high chance of getting a better coder than tc

[fair rampart]

poor Will

[buoyant obsidian]

Hollow Knight has a lot of good coders

they all just happen to be modders

[weak lodge]

☹ but but tc had alot of time to optimze the game they tested it for years and tc doesnt have enough money for mit

[floral furnace]

uhh is there a better way of doing this

cuz i feel like this is gonna rack up sooner or later

[rain cedar]

Check the layer

I think 8 is for terrain

[floral furnace]

aight

[mortal trout]

☹ bwut bwut tc hwad awot ow twime to optwimzw thwe gwame whey weswed it fwor ywears and tc dwoewnt hwave enough mwonet fwor wit

[copper nacelle]

no

[trim totem]

what

[fair rampart]

he said,
"bwut bwut tc hwad awot ow twime to optwimzw thwe gwame whey weswed it fwor ywears and tc dwoewnt hwave enough mwonet fwor wit"

[weak lodge]

in response to my message "☹ but but tc had alot of time to optimze the game they tested it for years and tc doesnt have enough money for mit"

[fair rampart]

Ow0

[rain cedar]

I don't even feel like I've learned anything about programming from uni

Just personal projects

And it shows in classmates too, they don't know how to do anything

[weak lodge]

56 self taught

[rain cedar]

I know the mit thing is satire but still

[floral furnace]

depends, some of our algo classes are ok but yeah the rest is trash

[young walrus]

people go to MIT to get connections

they're smart enough to figure shit out themselves

[weak lodge]

this

[rain cedar]

Not like you even need to be smart to figure shit out

You need two things:
Google
Time

Anyone can learn just about anything with those

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[floral furnace]

wdym 2 things i thought it was 3, where the 3rd part was bugging everyone until they coded for you

oh yeah sean it is 8, gonna try destroying from there haha yes it works

[young walrus]

i agree to an extent

I don't think anyone can learn anything tho

maybe given infinite time

[weak lodge]

ok so apparently you could parry with spells https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/526223529721462784/527697122443788289/shriek_parry.mp4 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484214203347894275/527697504158875668/ddark_parry.mp4 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484214203347894275/527697763941613579/ss_parry.mp4 @fair rampart @copper nacelle

56

can you see why

please

[copper nacelle]

wtf

[trim totem]

excuse me

what the fuck

[weak lodge]

also nail arts parry khan

wanna see those

[trim totem]

i knew that

[compact sedge]

this is vanilla?

[weak lodge]

yes

im parry god

[compact sedge]

aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[weak lodge]

@fair rampart spell damage parries

thats why switching your nail damage to spell damage still parried

in your mod

[formal flame]

Wait there’s a party mod?

[compact sedge]

:voidparty:

[formal flame]

Parry mod

[weak lodge]

Parry mod?

What are you on about?

If you’re confused this is vanilla game

I proudly hold parry god above my name tyvm

[tranquil glen]

[copper nacelle]

krythom ur drunk

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

cease

[dusky lion]

[cunning lagoon]

Finch meister I just posted that

This is plagiarism

[dusky lion]

I am acutely aware

[river eagle]

how many emotes can you have in a single message

[cunning lagoon]

wh... why do you ask?

[copper nacelle]

less than 100

it's per line sometimes too

[dusky lion]

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

[river eagle]

Why is that called Pepo on discord

shameless cultural appropriation...

smh

[copper nacelle]

[river eagle]

this needs to stop

memes have feelings too

and they don't appreciate being stolen and renamed like that

[floral furnace]

using pepe memes in 2018 🤔

[warped sinew]

@weak lodge I challenge your parry godhood

[floral furnace]

Shit Knightmere, you cant say no with a duel against a TC member

[vivid crag]

Yea

[cunning lagoon]

i cant believe i didnt get into youtube rewind

[dusky lion]

Shame

[cunning lagoon]

[thorn comet]

Next year Kurosh

PoP speedrun in YTRewind 2019

[cunning lagoon]

[dusky lion]

[floral furnace]

whos the celebrity thats gonna play as kuro

[cunning lagoon]

me

[floral furnace]

fantastic

[dusky lion]

Featuring red crumpled up paper and blue crumpled up paper

[cunning lagoon]

its a tshirt

[dusky lion]

Featuring red crumpled up tshirt and blue crumpled up tshirt

[cunning lagoon]

thanks

[cunning lagoon]

@rain cedar

[solemn rivet]

u gon speedrun that, dlk?

[cunning lagoon]

yeah im taking all of sean's rekkies

[floral furnace]

You can play any other games you like, but the ghost of PoP will always follow and haunt you 😔

[solemn rivet]

tell me when you stream

I really wanna watch that

[copper nacelle]

why is tc's naming so bad

i couldn't figure out what ball up was for like a minute

focus charge is him standing still

ball up is the first ball

and burst is the fifty balls

[cunning lagoon]

balls rise up

[floral furnace]

cuz tc

56 the answer was with you all the time

[dusky lion]

in your heart

[copper nacelle]

help i don't understand this fsm state

it waits

but i removed the wait

????????

wait

i've got it

[dusky lion]

It is very patient 56

[copper nacelle]

haha yes

[dusky lion]

do not redtick me

[weak lodge]

@warped sinew a tc member challenges me?

[dusky lion]

why do you have so many redtick emojis

❌ > :redtick:

[ornate rivet]

at least your fsms work 56

and you dont have to redo all the fsm yourself

[copper nacelle]

u

Do you have a pale lurker save

[ornate rivet]

no, I just set the bool that checks if you have killed her to false

[copper nacelle]

i mean

a save

next to

pale lurker

e

[dusky lion]

have you tried walking to pale lurker

[copper nacelle]

i'm not walking from godhome to colo

[dusky lion]

incredible

[ornate rivet]

oh

yea I do

[weak lodge]

Funny first thing I wake up is that someone challenge my parry godhood

[dusky lion]

you must fight for it knightmere

[weak lodge]

I wanna know what graig wants to do though

[ornate rivet]

knightmare you wake up so late

[weak lodge]

Memes aside does he actually wanna yeet

[ornate rivet]

it's 9:48

[weak lodge]

Oh actually saleh this is early for me

I normally wake up at 12

[copper nacelle]

yesterday i woke up at 7:30

pm

[dusky lion]

did you know

i have not slept in 22 hours

[ornate rivet]

so that's why you weren't responding to my pleas for help

[weak lodge]

Also 10:50 here so I’m basically an hour early today

[copper nacelle]

why tf do you have so much commented code

did you like copy-paste doh or something

[ornate rivet]

those should be all the stuff I need later

and yes I copied them from DoH

[floral furnace]

dont listen to him, having 200 lines of commented code is faster than pulling an older version from git or something

[copper nacelle]

[weak lodge]

Wow 56’s slave gang up on him

What is this

Tc cocksucker tbh

[dusky lion]

[copper nacelle]

[dusky lion]

Twin Sisters of Agony

[fair rampart]

First thing that happens when I wake up today is learning that you can apparently parry with spells

[ornate rivet]

happened* woke up*

[weak lodge]

That’s my fault

[fair rampart]

[copper nacelle]

why do you have 80 try catches

cease

[dusky lion]

you know what they say 56

[ornate rivet]

because I dont feel like taking them out once I'm done with them

[copper nacelle]

ur bad

[dusky lion]

Fatal Error: GPU Crash Monster Hunter World will close now except it wont it's going to freeze and you cant alt f4 or end task it so you have to hard reboot your computer

[ornate rivet]

also, I am pretty sure I have 2 try catches

[copper nacelle]

2 too many

[ornate rivet]

understandable

[floral furnace]

exactly, clean up your code AFTER your done with it, then after you are done with it get lazy about it so you keep it there because "its too much effort to remove and i might break it"

[copper nacelle]

the first will never throw

[ornate rivet]

that's because they had other things in them

that got removed

[copper nacelle]

ok but what would you put in awake that ever throws

[ornate rivet]

ok yea idk why I put that first try catch

[cunning lagoon]

@dusky lion fix that

[dusky lion]

yes lt me just

disassemble my laptop to put in a new gpu

[copper nacelle]

also your github repo can be struck for copyright infringement btw

[dusky lion]

maybe throw in a second ram stick while im at it

[copper nacelle]

you put all the game dlls up

this save isn't at pale lurker wtf

[ornate rivet]

wat

where is it

[copper nacelle]

godhome

[weak lodge]

Kuro im finna scared what do I do

[floral furnace]

~~you call it copyright infringement, i call it hardmode activated ~~

[weak lodge]

Tc man ask for competition

[ornate rivet]

sorry

I mixed up my ones and twos

[floral furnace]

Knightmere you cant back out

Do or Die

[dusky lion]

i am stealing that

[ornate rivet]

I forgot to clear the bin folder before pushing

[copper nacelle]

[dusky lion]

[copper nacelle]

have you heard of

.gitignore

[ornate rivet]

no

[copper nacelle]

it makes it so git won't add those files

[ornate rivet]

does it ignore certain files

[copper nacelle]

yes

[ornate rivet]

ok

[copper nacelle]

hop is a myth

cmm

tf

he doesn't even log hop throw antic

hey have you heard of

hop air

[ornate rivet]

yes

?

[copper nacelle]

ok you've heard of music

but have you heard of

[floral furnace]

wait is that an actual typo

[copper nacelle]

today i'm going to

[ornate rivet]

a peasant like yourself wouldn't understand, you need to get on TC's plane of existence

[cunning lagoon]

no you are not

you are 15

[copper nacelle]

yeah he just does hop air you fool

[floral furnace]

Only kuro has seen this otherworldy plane

[copper nacelle]

idk how he does it

but he just skips from hop antic to hop air

questionable fsm

[floral furnace]

what if, the graph is the one lying this time 🤔

[copper nacelle]

no i dumped it as text to make sure

[floral furnace]

like, considering i remember you saying the graphs were seperate from the fsms itself?

oh ok then

[fair rampart]

wow this fsm is meme gold

[ornate rivet]

but Hop Air doesn't have a setvelocity2d action

[copper nacelle]

e

why

ok time to log all states

[ornate rivet]

it only tells it what to do after it is in the air already

[copper nacelle]

did you ever check the reset state

[ornate rivet]

no

[copper nacelle]

Hey

you idiot

it's not hop

it's

Hop

don't ask me why

[ornate rivet]

what?

[copper nacelle]

[Space]Hop

[ornate rivet]

wtf

WHAT

[copper nacelle]

you're welcome

[ornate rivet]

thank you

also

[copper nacelle]

see

[ornate rivet]

fuck tc

but whyyyy

[copper nacelle]

wilbo wanted to fuck with you

ez

[ornate rivet]

this is the most egregious typo

[floral furnace]

spell iHop nibbug

[ornate rivet]

well I am both hoppy and mad right now

[hazy sentinel]

hoppy

[floral furnace]

dont worry, getting stuck on a problem for 5+ hours straight due to a typo is the best part of programming 😃

[ornate rivet]

the typo wasn't even my fault

that's the best part

[floral furnace]

i actually recall this happening to me months ago

huh, coincidence? i think not

[ornate rivet]

@warped sinew
Tell William to not put a random space before a state's name

[copper nacelle]

Now he'll change it and it'll break your mod

gj

[floral furnace]

And that Knightmere will fight you head on to become the next Parry God too

[copper nacelle]

just kidding implying devs would change code

[floral furnace]

legit i think this is at most the last hk patch

i think tbh imo

[hazy sentinel]

refactor dlc

[copper nacelle]

i don't think they'll update before hornet dlc

[floral furnace]

that or they finish hornet and they add some """fixes""" speedrun killers

[copper nacelle]

my favorite fix is select fall

[ornate rivet]

it was a terrible glitch
ruined the entire game for me tbh

[copper nacelle]

now to watch saleh forget spaces later on in his code and break his mod

[ornate rivet]

so much worse than hornet defying the laws of physics

[copper nacelle]

wdym are you telling me you can't just stay in the air by having a seizure

[ornate rivet]

idk I haven't tried that

what's the quickest way for me to have a seizure

[hazy sentinel]

yeah it's called flying

😩

[ornate rivet]

Nes should make it so that spaces are visible in the fsm reader

[hazy sentinel]

nes should remove fsms

[ornate rivet]

we could make an fsm to code converter since we have all the code behind each playmakerfsm action

[copper nacelle]

but you can see the space

[ornate rivet]

no I cant

[copper nacelle]

you're blind

[ornate rivet]

it's only slightly off center

[copper nacelle]

the hop is more to the right than it should be

yeah

that's called

a space

[ornate rivet]

but I am not going to notice something like that

you didn't notice it until you logged it

[copper nacelle]

ok but what would you do

making all spaces pink or some shit is cancer

and even with this i didn't notice

[hazy sentinel]

make all spaces zero width so you can see them easier

[copper nacelle]

it's only because i had 60 logs at the same indentation next to it that i noticed

[ornate rivet]

I was gonna say put a character count next to every state name

[copper nacelle]

yes i'm sure i'll notice that [Space]TelePos SmallShot is supposed to be 17 characters not 18 at a quick glance

[ornate rivet]

it's easier to check that way than logging it or dumping the object

[copper nacelle]

x

[ornate rivet]

xx

[copper nacelle]

logging is easy as shit

[ornate rivet]

but loading the game takes time

I meant more time consuming

[copper nacelle]

wow a whole 10s of my life gone

[ornate rivet]

every second counts

[copper nacelle]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[hazy sentinel]

wow a whole 1400h of my life gone

[warped sinew]

@ornate rivet I told him to move the space to after the name just for you

[ornate rivet]

pls no

[copper nacelle]

even better

[ornate rivet]

see that's why we need a character counter

[copper nacelle]

more like

[hazy sentinel]

put a random number of spaces before and after each fsm

[copper nacelle]

just dump the state names into consts

can't fail then

ez

[warped sinew]

also use rare characters

[copper nacelle]

zero width spaces in state names

[ornate rivet]

as long as they are visible I am fine

[floral furnace]

H0P 4NT1C

or use discord emojis as the state names

[ornate rivet]

use nitro emoji

[copper nacelle]

​ ​​​H​​​​o​p

14 characters btw

[hazy sentinel]

number them by order of creation in hexadecimal

[ornate rivet]

word says it's only 4 characters

[copper nacelle]

word sucks

put it through python

[ornate rivet]

ok yea I see it now

[hazy sentinel]

sHop

[floral furnace]

tf

[weak lodge]

oh look red mann here

[fair rampart]

red mann, explain why Oro is the only one you can parry with arts and spells

Dash Slash & Chill

[floral furnace]

cuz good code

[copper nacelle]

bro chill

[weak lodge]

@redmannnn seriosuly why is he the only boss in the entire fucking game you can parry with nail arts and spells

and for that matter only 1 of this attacks

his signature

[ornate rivet]

I am interested in knowing why as well
Why was this intentionally done?

[floral furnace]

ya sure its intentional

[ornate rivet]

how could it not be intentional

[floral furnace]

maybe you know, wilbo accidentally hit his coffee mug while coding then suddenly he got the spell parry implemented

[ornate rivet]

[weak lodge]

tempted to ping wil for this

i must know

[floral furnace]

wild guess but leftover code?

[ornate rivet]

probably tbh

[fair rampart]

Knight, is Oro the only one you can Cyclone parry?

[weak lodge]

so it's not spells, it's the boss

oro is the only one you can parry with all arts and spells

i tried cyclone on all of em

graig mind asking tc

[fair rampart]

So wait, Cyclone works on other bosses or not? IK G/D Slash seem to only work on Oro

[weak lodge]

not

[fair rampart]

but Cyclone has code specifically for parry

[weak lodge]

?

hmmm

[fair rampart]

like it has it's own parry invul and stuff

[weak lodge]

didnt work on lost kin, soul warrior, hive knight, pure vessel, mawlek

[copper nacelle]

you can kinda parry revek with it iirc but it doesn't do the slowdown or anything

[weak lodge]

or sly

maybe

scrapped code?

[copper nacelle]

[weak lodge]

that they left in

[copper nacelle]

Lava and playable zote stuff is still in

[weak lodge]

is it actually called upon/used

wait

they left in lava

wtf

[fair rampart]

yeah they left in the stuff for taking lava dmg

[copper nacelle]

It's in hazard types

[ornate rivet]

besides the thing that chooses between the knight, hornet, and zote, what else is left from zote stuff?

[fair rampart]

So how normal parries work is this

    public void NailParry()
    {
        this.parryInvulnTimer = this.INVUL_TIME_PARRY;
    }

gets called by the Slash-nailclash_tink FSM

[hasty kindle]

lmfao

the ultimatum radiance was freezed

so easy

[cunning lagoon]

owo

[hasty kindle]

"hard" they said

[hazy sentinel]

uwu

[fair rampart]

but I don't see an FSM that calls

    public void CycloneInvuln()
    {
        this.parryInvulnTimer = this.INVUL_TIME_CYCLONE;
    }

at least not in resource.assets

from what I can tell

[weak lodge]

thank you team cherry

[fair rampart]

omfg

I figured out Oro

how tf did they manage this

[weak lodge]

oh shit please explain

sir

[hazy sentinel]

TC lul

[weak lodge]

that was a funny joke

[hazy sentinel]

no that's the explanation

[weak lodge]

same thing

[fair rampart]

They put the entire FSM for nail parries in here. So anything that hits the dash slash parries

[hazy sentinel]

but why

[fair rampart]

IDK

they didn't do this for any other parry handler

[weak lodge]

thank you tc

[fair rampart]

see, normally, this fsm is inside Slash-nailclash_tink, so it only triggers on normal slashes

but because they put this in the parry handler for Oro's D Slash,

it parries on everything

[weak lodge]

thank you tc

wait

I CAN PARRY WITH FLUKENEST

FUCK YES

[fair rampart]

can you?

[weak lodge]

let me

try

ultimate parry setup

[fair rampart]

I feel like you can't, because Flukenest's dmg works differently

but go for it anyway

[weak lodge]

eeee

the summons paried for me

[fair rampart]

WTF

TC, do you even QA

like

how

[weak lodge]

when a fucking fireball from thin air clanks your metal hard enough for you to withdraw your nail

when a fucking baby spider fucking clanks your nail

thanks tc

very cool

ok so familiars also parry

[fair rampart]

Can you parry with CHeart?

that would be something

[weak lodge]

hold up

this

this is fun

thank you tc

yes.

yes you can.

[fair rampart]

amazing

I assume you cannot parry with Spore or Dung, since those are extra dmg type

[weak lodge]

@fair rampart

56 what do you make of this

[fair rampart]

@fringe schooner here you go

[fringe schooner]

ah thanks

[weak lodge]

?

how come nugger exists here

[fringe schooner]

that is awesome

knightmere

ur a god

thanks for this

[weak lodge]

[fair rampart]

so, it works for Flukenest?

[weak lodge]

i dont think so

[ornate rivet]

how does one check if a gameobject has taken damage?

I could use void OnTriggerEnter2D(Collider2D col) and check if col.name is equal to something that damages that game object

but that means I need to check for every attack the knight has

[copper nacelle]

For an enemy or the hero?

[ornate rivet]

enemy

[copper nacelle]

Hook HealthManager.TakeDamage

[ornate rivet]

ew hooks

but thank you

very much

[copper nacelle]

It might send an FSM event

So you could make your own fsm I guess

[ornate rivet]

yay

[copper nacelle]

[ornate rivet]

pale champion is turning out really well

once I learn how to move around platforms it will be

platforms are game objects in the scene right?

so I just need to find the right name and I can use .transform.setposition2d() to change their position, right?

[compact sedge]

probably altho their hitbox might be a different object

[ornate rivet]

oof

[compact sedge]

I don't actually remember

[fair rampart]

the superdash cstate starts when you start charging, not when you actually start the dash, right?

debug was unhelpful

[cunning lagoon]

i think nathan is the father

[ornate rivet]

@copper nacelle
Hooks suck and FSMs do too
this is better

private string[] HeroAttacks = { "Slash", "DownSlash", "UpSlash", "Fireball2 Spiral(Clone)", "Sharp Shadow", "Hit R", "Hit L", "Hit U", "Q Fall Damage", "Great Slash", "Dash Slash" };

void OnTriggerEnter2D(Collider2D col)
{
    var attacked = HeroAttacks.Where(x => x.Contains(col.name)).FirstOrDefault();
    if (attacked != null)
    {
        hits++;
    }
}

[fair rampart]

Fireball2 Spiral is unused tho

[ornate rivet]

it works for pale lurker

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[weak lodge]

what is fireball2 Spiral?

[ornate rivet]

that reminds me, I need one for the first fireball too

upgraded fireball

[weak lodge]

oh

shade soul

[fair rampart]

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/hollowknight/images/5/5c/Mixed_Fireball.png/revision/latest?cb=20180811182803

[weak lodge]

what the fuck

[vivid crag]

Unused shade soul

[compact sedge]

it's in the game

[vivid crag]

No

[cunning lagoon]

probably the latter

[ornate rivet]

so is it used in game or not AA

[civic hare]

i wish my projectiles had luxurious hair : (

[fair rampart]

loriel, because I'm worth it

[compact sedge]

in the game but unused

assets are in the game

[ornate rivet]

we knew that lol

there wouldn't be any other way for us to have that sprite

can we use linq in hk mods?
because then I can simplify my code to

private string[] HeroAttacks = { "Slash", "DownSlash", "UpSlash", "Fireball2 Spiral(Clone)", "Sharp Shadow", "Hit R", "Hit L", "Hit U", "Q Fall Damage", "Great Slash", "Dash Slash" };

void OnTriggerEnter2D(Collider2D col)
{
    var isAttacked = HeroAttacks.Contains(col.name);
    if (isAttacked)
    {
        hits++;
    }
}

[compact sedge]

yes but compile it for 3.5

but if your compiler supports msbuild 14 or mono 2.9 or c# 6 then it will work. Also why does microsoft have like, 7 different version numbers for the same thing?

[fair rampart]

How would I go about adding this?
Jumpmaster (QFocus + Dashmaster): Allows you to aim CDash upwards(Monarch Wings are required for this combo to work).

[ornate rivet]

but why

[trim totem]

is pale champion a pale lurker mod?

[ornate rivet]

yes

[fair rampart]

so you can go back up where you fall down

[trim totem]

very nice

[cunning lagoon]

VERY NICE

[trim totem]

mhm

[fair rampart]

I'm only adding the Wings requirement because it would be super easy to sequence break without normal skips

[copper nacelle]

Would that even work with fluke or elegy

[ornate rivet]

oh shoot

[fair rampart]

what

[ornate rivet]

I forgot those

[fair rampart]

oh

[copper nacelle]

Or minions

Neglecting weaversong smh

[fair rampart]

How do you forget about Weavers

[ornate rivet]

I dont need to check for minions

[cunning lagoon]

weaversong is SHIT 😤

glowing womb is where its at

[ornate rivet]

minions wont be able to attack

[copper nacelle]

tf

[fair rampart]

tell that to Oro's D Slash

[ornate rivet]

maybe I will make it so that minions attack the player actually

[trim totem]

they should remove the damage and staggering from weaversong so that i can use it as a purely cosmetic charm

[copper nacelle]

hmmmmmmmmm

[cunning lagoon]

they should remove the damage and staggering from weaversong so that i can use it as a purely cosmetic charm

[copper nacelle]

Help what does this mean

[trim totem]

56 use attacks from other bosses in pale prince

[copper nacelle]

no

[trim totem]

why

[ornate rivet]

@fair rampart
cant you just set the velocity 2d action to have a y value rather than an x value (if certain criteria are met) to make it go up?

[copper nacelle]

loading scenes sucks for performance and I hate it

[trim totem]

understandable

[ornate rivet]

loading DoH takes at least 20 seconds

[fair rampart]

uhh

[cunning lagoon]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[ornate rivet]

DoH loads like 7 scenes so that's why

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

[fair rampart]

DoH taking inspiration from enemy Rando I see

[ornate rivet]

hopefully I can load even more scenes for pale lurker

[cunning lagoon]

how do i crop a gif

[copper nacelle]

how tf do you even buff pale lurker

he just runs away

[cunning lagoon]

she

[ornate rivet]

very easy actually

you completely change how the boss works

[weak lodge]

wow

kuro correcting genders

too much eroico

[ornate rivet]

Make it so that she attacks you and does not run away unless she is attacked
give her dreamshields
have WD spikes when she digs
Spawn enemies
speed her up
add white palace saw blades
after a certain point, start changing the platforms and add traps as the player moved around the arena
make her ninja starts explode

[copper nacelle]

wtf

[ornate rivet]

block the player off from hitting her unless they pogo to her with primal aspids

these are some of the things I want to add

I have way more

[fair rampart]

excuse me what the fuck

[ornate rivet]

it's just a matter of if I get bored or not

Nes giving us his level editor could speed this up a lot too

[cunning lagoon]

very nice

[ornate rivet]

oh yea, will the level editor be a visual editor only or will it make coding easier too?

if it's visual only then it wont be much use for what I am doing

[cunning lagoon]

now i can change my discord keybinds

kurosh_why.exe was breaking it

[weak lodge]

discord keybinds

arnt most of them just for voice chat

[solemn rivet]

how was iconoclasts dlk

[cunning lagoon]

didnt play for too long cause i ogtta sleep soon or else i die

but its fun

[solemn rivet]

scrub

[cunning lagoon]

made it to the desert and killed the helicopter boss

[solemn rivet]

reee

[copper nacelle]

are these just y offset

[cunning lagoon]

no that's pure vessel using the dart attack

[fair rampart]

What's the name of the Grimmchild's fireball gameobject?

[weak lodge]

i have an idea

what if he fired the knives while doing his triple slash

only like 4

[cunning lagoon]

what if he dont

[weak lodge]

you could easily do the fight still why would you complain 🤔

[cunning lagoon]

[hollow pier]

what

[copper nacelle]

that'd be pointless

you can't dash through it anyways

[weak lodge]

^

[trim totem]

56 what are you doing

[copper nacelle]

adjusting angle offsets

[weak lodge]

it punishes for dashing the opposite way though

[cunning lagoon]

adjust nathan offsets instead

[copper nacelle]

i can try it

[cunning lagoon]

(you might need a big brain to understaND this one)

[weak lodge]

understaND

[copper nacelle]

why the fuck don't FsmFloats have an implicit to float

😡

[weak lodge]

[hollow pier]

why do you just randomly capitalize letters

[copper nacelle]

wow i'm actually using trig outside of math

[cunning lagoon]

i accidentally hit caps lock, which as you might see, is right next to the "a" key in my keyboard (the one i typed right before the capitalized letters)

[copper nacelle]

incredible

[hollow pier]

i used trig to fix my glasses

[trim totem]

trig is used in a lot of things dude

[hollow pier]

[cunning lagoon]

any other pointless questions

[hollow pier]

(edited)

big pensive

[weak lodge]

you see

kurosh is also a man

😔

[cunning lagoon]

however, consider this:

run eroico

[weak lodge]

❌

[cunning lagoon]

i was talking to pete, i already know you dont have a chance at bopping me

[weak lodge]

and he does?

no one loves that game as much as you

[civic hare]

cmon bop it

[hollow pier]

run icono

[weak lodge]

^

[cunning lagoon]

you will have to wait until i finish my playthrough first

[weak lodge]

run icono

alright lemme spoil everything

[hollow pier]

i already finished my playthrough

learning starts today or tomorrow i think

unless i want to ng+

[weak lodge]

does kurosh even care about the story

[compact sedge]

FsmFloat.value is close enough and you can set them implicitly @copper nacelle

[copper nacelle]

yeah but i don't like typing .value

that's what i'm using it's just annoying

[hazy sentinel]

😔

[copper nacelle]

[compact sedge]

liberals ruining our glorious communism

[weak lodge]

eck

[silk jetty]

[fair rampart]

            if (PlayerData.instance.equippedCharm_40 && PlayerData.instance.equippedCharm_6 && PlayerData.instance.health == 1)
            {
                if (hit.Source.name.Contains("Flameball"))
                {
                    hit.DamageDealt = (int)((double)damageDealt * 1.5);
                    Modding.Logger.Log("THE FLAME...");
                }
            }

why doesn't this work

it doesn't even log

[copper nacelle]

what

are you trying to buff grimmchild

[fair rampart]

while Furied

[copper nacelle]

why are you casting to double

[fair rampart]

why not

[silk jetty]

are you trying to make fury effect all minions?

[copper nacelle]

have you heard of our lord and savior f

cause it's ugly

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

just do 1.5f

[fair rampart]

can't

because damagedealt is an int

[copper nacelle]

x

[cunning lagoon]

56 destroys nathan with facts and code

[copper nacelle]

have you tried

logging hit.Source.name

[hazy sentinel]

must be the award-winning lightbringer mod

[hollow pier]

6 upvotes

[fair rampart]

So...
I did ```cs
Modding.Logger.Log("Hit by " + hit.Source.name);

at the end of hit instance

grimmchild doesn't make one

[copper nacelle]

nice

[hazy sentinel]

a smooth criminal

[cunning lagoon]

i do, thank you for asking

[fair rampart]

umm... what is that in the corner?

[hollow pier]

your fps silly

[fair rampart]

what's making gold dream particles

I zoomed out because I wanted to see where Grimmchild landed

[hazy sentinel]

gruz mother dream boss

[fair rampart]

It decided to go to sleep while over the hole

[hazy sentinel]

GWczoneTentacles

[fair rampart]

No seriously, what is that?

[cunning lagoon]

fury of the fallen

[hazy sentinel]

have you tried losing 342 geo

[fair rampart]

Those are Dream Gate particles

wtf

why are those there

[cunning lagoon]

why are we all here

[ornate rivet]

I was also surprised when I used trig for DoH's needle spread attack 56

now that I think about, maybe I should replace DoH's needles with PV's sword thingies

they look better

This is probably too late but I am pretty sure grimmchild's fireball is called Grimmball

[cunning lagoon]

make grimm child shoot 100x as many fireballs and make them 6969x bigger

maybe then he wont miss

[fair rampart]

I tried Grimmball

from looking at Grimmchild's control FSM, I think it's Flameball

[ornate rivet]

the enemy damager is a separate game object. The above action is in Grimmball's Init state

[fair rampart]

Nothing even logs when Grimmchild hits something

that doesn't change the fact that

Modding.Logger.Log("Hit by " + hit.Source.name);
``` logs nothing for Grimmchild

[ornate rivet]

what is that

[fair rampart]

but does log for other hit sources

logs the hit source name

[weak lodge]

does it log when then spore crest hits

[ornate rivet]

when then

[fair rampart]

In cs private HitInstance HitInstanceAdjust(Fsm fsm, HitInstance hit)

at the end

right before return hit

[copper nacelle]

They're objects from the pool

If you zoom out on any scene with the borders removed in the bottom left there's infection particles

[ornate rivet]

OH, so objects can be obtained from the pool because they already exist in the scene and are inactive outside the border?

[copper nacelle]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

hey 56 i love you keep up the good work

[copper nacelle]

you can actually oob and kill the mini gruzes which spawn before killing gruz mother

[cunning lagoon]

but when are you going back to the good pfp

[copper nacelle]

and then she has an abortion

[hollow pier]

is he still a stag i can't tell

[cunning lagoon]

no its a spiral

[copper nacelle]

e

[cunning lagoon]

[mortal trout]

56 you changed your pfp im crying and shaking you'd never do this

[cunning lagoon]

[weak lodge]

i got used to the other one

weird seeing this one again

reminds me of his robot

shit he is his robot

nvm

[mortal trout]

🤔

[buoyant obsidian]

This is the 56 I know and love

[cunning lagoon]

you summoned 753

[weak lodge]

holy shit

753

i challenge you to parry with crystal heart

[buoyant obsidian]

is it even possible?

[mortal trout]

oro dash slash

[fair rampart]

Oh, 753 wasn't here to see the magical TC code

[cunning lagoon]

where we droppin

[fair rampart]

TLDR; the parry function is called when basically anything hits it

because TC code is amazing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459912621714440192/527893894306725898/shriek_parry.mp4

credit to Knightmere's amazing parry skillz

This one is even better

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459912621714440192/527891663117615106/cheart_parry.mp4

Apparently Weavers can parry it too, but I don't think Knightmere posted a vid of it

[weak lodge]

nate you want more

i have all the files

[fair rampart]

mainly, I want to see minion parry

[cunning lagoon]

me irl

[weak lodge]

cpu

[fair rampart]

DL "dumpster fire of a cpu" Kurosh

[cunning lagoon]

this is true

especially the fire part

[weak lodge]

FLSurosh

[compact sedge]

intel stock cooler be like

[rain cedar]

@copper nacelle fix ur mods

[hollow pier]

hey sean guess what

i can stream icono at 540p

[rain cedar]

I saw

Impressive

[hollow pier]

very

[copper nacelle]

yeah i need to fix that i've had it for a while

[rain cedar]

Is it if you press the page switch button in game?

[silk jetty]

@weak lodge I need a video of weaver parry

to send to one of my fake friends

[copper nacelle]

yes sean

[weak lodge]

ping?

i was too lazy to do any more familiar parries

[rain cedar]

Literally just add a check for Menu_Title

That's like a 2 second fix

[copper nacelle]

yes

[ornate rivet]

can someone fix the debug mod glitch that makes the menu freeze on screen if you press escape to exit the menu

[copper nacelle]

no

[ornate rivet]

why not

[hollow pier]

press continue

[copper nacelle]

you fix it

[ornate rivet]

why does it do that?

[copper nacelle]

idk

[ornate rivet]

ugh

[copper nacelle]

u

[hollow pier]

gh

[copper nacelle]

great hopper

[rain cedar]

It's a 1 line fix but I don't want to work on debug

Shit mod

[ornate rivet]

it's probably the best mod

so good for testing modded bosses

[rain cedar]

It's the most useful utility mod

[ornate rivet]

yes

[rain cedar]

Being that it's the only utility mod

[ornate rivet]

yes

[rain cedar]

Doesn't make it good

[hollow pier]

qol is the best qol mod

[rain cedar]

I'm working on making it second best with the qol stuff in randomizer

[hollow pier]

rando qol

[copper nacelle]

i need to add more stuff

[rain cedar]

Especially after I take back my contributions

You'll never see it coming

[ornate rivet]

who cares about QoL, modding bosses is what's popular nowadays anyways

[copper nacelle]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[ornate rivet]

actually there's one thing qol should have

wait 2 things

1. Color blindness setting

[copper nacelle]

no

[ornate rivet]

2. Beat the game by pressing x setting

[copper nacelle]

no

[fair rampart]

turn this on to induce color blindness

[ornate rivet]

yes

[rain cedar]

The only thing that's reasonable for color blind setting is a global shader

[ornate rivet]

The only thing that

[rain cedar]

Which would be a terrible setting

[ornate rivet]

terribly good

[rain cedar]

Apostrophe is really close to enter ok

[ornate rivet]

if someone from UMD comes here, tell them I have modder role

[leaden hedge]

no

[copper nacelle]

no

[ornate rivet]

thanks

wait you're right dont tell them that

tell them I'm a TC member

[hollow pier]

i'm with sean

apostrophe is too close to enter

please move it

[ornate rivet]

mhh

[leaden hedge]

a is too close to z

[ornate rivet]

K is too far from D

[leaden hedge]

they should be on opposing sides like the alphabet

ill change my middle name to start with j, u, y or h for you

so its just in a line

[ornate rivet]

thanks

Keys should be in alphabetical order

I just looked it up and apparently it was done to slow down typewriter typists

which is really bigthink

[leaden hedge]

not really slow them down

its to move common keys away from each other

so when you type fast it doesn't jam

[ornate rivet]

ah ok

google did a bad job of explaining that one

[leaden hedge]

I dunno why anyone would want to slow people down, or why we'd continue to use something designed to be slow on a system without those issues

[compact sedge]

people typing too quickly was a problem on old typewriters

also

you're asking why would people continue using something that's intentionally slow and you're running windows.

[ornate rivet]

windows is slow?
Am I getting raped

[compact sedge]

there's a lot of things that makes windows very slow

ntfs is awful, it's about 1/3rd the speed of any linux file system. windows defender makes downloading and opening files slower. Windows updates in the background makes stuff run slower while it's running. Windows filesystem file locking makes updating incredibly slow because you have to restart shit. Windows uses 2GB of ram idle by default which makes it easier to run out of ram and use slow swapspace. And the kernel is very poorly optimized.

[rain cedar]

For me right now the biggest reason to still use windows is livesplit

[copper nacelle]

livesplit and dnspy

for me

[compact sedge]

I don't speedrun

so not an issue for me

[leaden hedge]

and the fact that 80% of games and programs only run on windows

[compact sedge]

and rider apparently is adding a dnspy thingy in it

[ornate rivet]

your alternative was linux and linux is bad beyond words

[copper nacelle]

yeah and it's shit

[ornate rivet]

if there was a good alternative I would take it in a heartbeat. I am sure there are a lot of dumb things that microsoft has on windows but windows is the standard OS and almost everyone supports it.

[rain cedar]

80% of games and programs are made only for windows

Not only run on windows

Stuff like mono and wine exist and work well for a lot of stuff

I don't have a problem with the speed of windows so much as how they're going more and more in a "Hide everything above a toddler level" direction

It's why I'm still on 7

Like windows 10 has two control panels and the one that's easier to get to by far is incredibly gimped

What the fuck is that?

[civic hare]

yeah that's fuckin dumb

[ornate rivet]

I agree

[civic hare]

most of why windows is shit is because it's all haphazardly built on years and years of backwards compatibility and artifacts

but i still use windows because i'm used to it. i too am an artifact

[compact sedge]

"Linux is shit" - everyone who hasn't used linux

[rain cedar]

I think 10 removed basically all control over updates as well

[ornate rivet]

I have used it though

[copper nacelle]

they used ubuntu in a vm and configured it wrong

[compact sedge]

as an actual desktop

[copper nacelle]

[dusky lion]

Windows 8 is where it's at

[compact sedge]

or like, you had a raspberry pi some time

[ornate rivet]

I had to because Cuckoo Sandbox only supports Linux

[compact sedge]

and were like: wow this raspberry pi is so slow reading off an sd card

wow linux is slow

[rain cedar]

I have a pi and it's not even slow

[ornate rivet]

I installed Ubuntu on my main pc

[rain cedar]

That shit can run minecraft

Impressive

[hollow pier]

can it run icono

[rain cedar]

Sadly no

[hollow pier]

icono is tiny

[dusky lion]

Can it run crysis

[compact sedge]

icono is html5

it technically might run

if it has enough ram

wait

no

Im thinking of crosscode

aaa

fuck

[rain cedar]

Same

[copper nacelle]

run it in wine

[hollow pier]

sean when is crosscode

[compact sedge]

definitely won't work since it's probably an x86 assembly

[ornate rivet]

I was trying to disable windows defender because it kept deleting a file I was downloading and I had to go through at least 3 different menus.

[compact sedge]

icono runs natively tho

[ornate rivet]

I hate windows defender, it keeps enabling itself.

[rain cedar]

How long is crosscode by now?

[hollow pier]

one way to find out

[rain cedar]

Wow faster than no airswim

Tempting

[hollow pier]

do it

[rain cedar]

I still haven't even beaten the game though

[hollow pier]

well do that

[rain cedar]

I need to buy batteries for my controller

[hollow pier]

[rain cedar]

I guess I could try kb/m

I remember hating it with crosscode

[hollow pier]

not playing everything on kb smh

[rain cedar]

Well keyboard is just actually worse with crosscode

Because you don't get omnidirectional movement

[copper nacelle]

get a keyboard with a stick

i've seen one on r/mk

highly ascended

[compact sedge]

@copper nacelle I had a weird idea which would be taking monogame games, disassembling them, and recompiling them for arm so you could play stuff like salt and sanctuary on a phone or pi.

[rain cedar]

How they had it before with melee/balls was click near lea to melee and click further away for balls

[hollow pier]

just play with controller and kb

[rain cedar]

Which is fucking terrible

Maybe that's changed though

[dusky lion]

You can bind a button to melee

[fair rampart]

Anyone here know if the Godtuner has a variant of its sprite with a black orb instead of gold or yellow, and what it means?

[civic hare]

i mean, there's the little ui animation when you beat a boss outside of godhome of the tuner filling up with j u i c e

[fair rampart]

oh that might be it

[rain cedar]

Oh the crosscode wr isn't even good

[hollow pier]

beat it

[hollow pier]

beat it

[civic hare]

Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
No one wants to be defeated

[rain cedar]

He gets to the final boss at 1:07:15

17m final fight

[hollow pier]

wtf

[copper nacelle]

wtf

[hollow pier]

are you just insanely underpowered

[rain cedar]

Doesn't look like it

16 segment hp bar and you can get 1 down per cycle

[hollow pier]

so it's me against starworm not switching weapons

[rain cedar]

Very reasonable damage numbers

[weak lodge]

wait sean playing crosscode

nice

[rain cedar]

No probably not

[weak lodge]

uhhh game ahs big story btw

ahs

e

[rain cedar]

17 minute final boss is a pretty huge turn off

[weak lodge]

yuck

thats what i dislike

also a couple of the dungeons

but meh

[rain cedar]

I really liked it in early access when it ended at the whale

That was a good length final fight

This is too much

[weak lodge]

i guess

[fair rampart]

is it legit a 17 min fight?

[rain cedar]

Yes 17m fight in the wr

[weak lodge]

yea the final god boss or whatever

rediculous hp

kinda like the radiance but not bullshit an drng

[fair rampart]

that seems like... not good design?

[warped sinew]

Show me these parrys

[weak lodge]

oh

ohhhh

so now youre alive

i odnt wanna clock chat so ill just show you a couple

graig have at these

mato's dash slash is broken

Oro*

can you like

[fair rampart]

never fix it

[weak lodge]

maybe see if that can be fixed 🤔

nate explain to him what's going on

you playtested the game why didn't you guys pick up on this

[warped sinew]

i find shit like this all the time

[fair rampart]

TLDR; parry function is called every time Mato's D Slash collides with something that has an attack direction

[warped sinew]

just cos i find it doesnt mean it gets patched

or changed

[weak lodge]

oh

ic

[ornate rivet]

~20 minute final boss? wtf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sHqOAzRus8

[weak lodge]

so you knew about this before?

[fair rampart]

but y tho

[warped sinew]

not specifically that no but there have been other weird parrys in the game that eventually get patched

[weak lodge]

ah

[warped sinew]

sometimes TC just dont bother as they are busy with more important bugs at the time etc

[fair rampart]

There is a function for Cyclone parries, but it never gets called

[weak lodge]

so youre saying if we want it fixed we mod it ourselves

[ornate rivet]

but why does it need fixing?