archived-modding-development

[unborn flicker]

I'm game for that

[cunning lagoon]

sure

[young walrus]

dunno what format y'all want to do

[unborn flicker]

2v2 blackout?

[young walrus]

ooh

sounds fun

[hollow pier]

explosion pogo works

[cunning lagoon]

sure

[hollow pier]

good shit

[cunning lagoon]

but this is my second bingo so be gentle

[hazy sentinel]

wow too bad you're gonna miss the don quijote stream

[unborn flicker]

Just paste the dll in mods, right?

[young walrus]

yup

[unborn flicker]

2b.10?

for the version no

[hollow pier]

yes

[unborn flicker]

[hollow pier]

i would test ddark spikes but i don't have dive on this save pepehands

[cunning lagoon]

i can check it rq

[unborn flicker]

Hmmm. Spikes don't work for me

[rain cedar]

Send log

[unborn flicker]

E pogo is good

Modlog after loading the scene?

[rain cedar]

Yeah

[hollow pier]

is this easier now

it feels much easier

or it's just a free trick

[rain cedar]

It's just free

[cunning lagoon]

yeah they work for me

[young walrus]

the spikes?

[cunning lagoon]

good shit

[young walrus]

or e pogo

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[hollow pier]

homothety exposed?!?!?!

[cunning lagoon]

whats e pogo

[hollow pier]

explosion pogo

[cunning lagoon]

oh

spikes yeah

[unborn flicker]

lol

[rain cedar]

Ok no warning on load about not getting the required stuff

And no NRE on loading the scene

Did you try to pogo the ground spikes or something?

I don't think those ones will work

[unborn flicker]

I tried pogoing the left wall before DDark

Since that's the only thing worth fixing

[rain cedar]

Oh wait this is in the list of changes only for randomizer saves

That's probably it

I guess it should be any save

[unborn flicker]

Ahh

I used my AS save

[rain cedar]

Yeah ok mystery solved

[cunning lagoon]

explosion pogo works fine too

[young walrus]

k. well y'all ready to go then?

[unborn flicker]

Yep

[young walrus]

me and homothety probably on different teams

[rain cedar]

Explosion pogo fix code 🙂

[young walrus]

lol

[hollow pier]

just tested it works for me

[rain cedar]

Homickely vs DLPete

[cunning lagoon]

this tbh

pete has to be with me or im way too overpowered

[young walrus]

i mean....

if that's what you want

[unborn flicker]

Should we make a non-lockout room for this?

[hollow pier]

since it's blackout most likely

[young walrus]

yeah

[rain cedar]

Lockout blackout

Just be really fast

[cunning lagoon]

how long do thesse take on avergae

[young walrus]

got it

you can... change the room type in-room, homothety

[unborn flicker]

lol

[young walrus]

lol

[hollow pier]

same

[cunning lagoon]

whats `the website again

[hollow pier]

bingosync

[unborn flicker]

bin go syn c

[cunning lagoon]

whats pw

[hollow pier]

dad

[young walrus]

always dad

[cunning lagoon]

i see

[young walrus]

so we all just being different colors? lol

I'm ready whenever

[hollow pier]

who really knows

[cunning lagoon]

any vc

[hollow pier]

x

[cunning lagoon]

wtf

shit teammate

[hollow pier]

same

[unborn flicker]

You two did choose each other

[cunning lagoon]

i guess im ready then

[unborn flicker]

I need a sec to fix pdd

[cunning lagoon]

aight

[unborn flicker]

Got it

[young walrus]

i'm good

[hollow pier]

pog

[young walrus]

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[cunning lagoon]

414779811

[hollow pier]

414779811

[unborn flicker]

414779811

[young walrus]

kk. I'll count

wutchu want kuro

[cunning lagoon]

wdym

[young walrus]

you were typing

[hollow pier]

your body

[young walrus]

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

[young walrus]

k we're going. I'm counting down

9

8

7

6

5

[rain cedar]

1⃣

[young walrus]

4

3

2

1

go

[compact sedge]

wait hold on I need to setup

[hollow pier]

i crashed feelsgoodman

[cunning lagoon]

man i love being able to communicate with my teammate

[hollow pier]

same

[rain cedar]

Doesn't seem that important

[cunning lagoon]

enable dms bitch

[hollow pier]

what

how did i disable them

oh you're not my friend

[cunning lagoon]

AngryJack

[compact sedge]

Hey y'all. I'ma be taking at least a week-long break from this server. I just need some time to clear my head and the mods here need me to give them some distance. If you guys absolutely urgently need me you know where to find me I'm sure... I hope.

[rain cedar]

zoom

[copper nacelle]

nice

[weak lodge]

true ending all glitches \

more like

whats your timed radiant hardmode IG score

[copper nacelle]

🚮

u

all i remember is that it was trash

just beat aa

[weak lodge]

i will never beat angle

too wholesome

[copper nacelle]

[rain cedar]

This is so much harder than normal speed

[young walrus]

saw someone had the pure knight mod today. is that included with another mod?

I don't see it on the drive

[copper nacelle]

Lightbringer

[young walrus]

can that be separated? 🙏

[cunning lagoon]

@rain cedar sly's basement won't close

[rain cedar]

That sounds like an issue

Is he down there or is it the shiny item?

[cunning lagoon]

no

i's empty

it's

[rain cedar]

Yeah ok I see the issue

s->S

Last time it was S->s

Capitalization 😩

[cunning lagoon]

sean fix ur shit 🙂

[hollow pier]

seanpr->Seanpr

[cunning lagoon]

im not teaming up with you until you decide to speak

i refuse to alt tab every half a minute to trade info

[young walrus]

lol

[hollow pier]

🙂

[hollow pier]

rofl

[cunning lagoon]

[vapid patrol]

Does enemy randomizer works only on 1920x1080 resolution

I tried to change to 1280x720 but game crashed

[cunning lagoon]

when do soul totems refill

[copper nacelle]

vs code sucks

I can't get anything to work

[trim totem]

56 help me with my game for cs

[copper nacelle]

[trim totem]

after i wake up

[cunning lagoon]

how tf do i add keybinds on discord

[cunning lagoon]

when i add my desired bind and close the window it changes mouse1

changes to*

[copper nacelle]

Nice

[cunning lagoon]

does this shitty app have a config file or something

[copper nacelle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cunning lagoon]

well i have learned that ctrl p brings up the pings popup

pins*

[copper nacelle]

thanks vs code

[copper nacelle]

time to try visual studio

f# takes 3gb and i have 7 left

wonderful

[cunning lagoon]

you should fix that

[rain cedar]

george w fraser

doxxed urself kid

[copper nacelle]

f# language server vs code guy

i think

this is cool

[rain cedar]

What's different from 2017?

[copper nacelle]

i think this screen is new

but i might be misremembering

[rain cedar]

Yeah doesn't look familiar

[copper nacelle]

launch screen looks cool

[rain cedar]

Yeah ok it looks fancy

But what's actually different?

[copper nacelle]

better intellisense

https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/services/intellicode/

Was this stuff here before

The 0 references stuff

I think they changed the menu bar

I don't think they had this as a refactoring earlier

there's some code sharing thing

but the only actual change is like better intellisense

[rain cedar]

Cool

[cunning lagoon]

found a wild ttacco

[rain cedar]

This is the greatest fsm code anyone has ever written

Now to see if it even works

pain

[copper nacelle]

ascended

[rain cedar]

It's still spamming a ton of tiny geos

And now there's more than the right amount of geo too

The obvious solution is add the geo straight to the counter

But that's lame

Oh that for loop isn't even finding anything

Wtf

Oh I'm a fool

Nevermind that wasn't it

???

Literally not even my fault this wasn't working

[copper nacelle]

nice

[rain cedar]

He gives 6781 geo instead of 6750 for some reason

But it's way less laggy when it uses actual code to spawn the geo all at once

Instead of 1 at a time in fsm for loops

Oh wait there's just 31 extra geo on the ground

Every time you enter

Incredible

[copper nacelle]

Wtf

[rain cedar]

I know exactly why so no big deal

[copper nacelle]

Is it from the pickup that used to be there

[rain cedar]

Spawn wasn't working in past cases the first time it was called so I call it once to make the actual calls in TC code work

But I guess for some reason it works here

Also I hated that

I'll just spawn the geo under the map

Easy fix got em

[copper nacelle]

😩

[rain cedar]

I mean what else am I going to do?

Spawn is broken

It doesn't work the first time except for when it does I guess

[copper nacelle]

spawn it then destroy it one frame later

[rain cedar]

Yeah ok that makes more sense

Nevermind it doesn't make sense

I destroy them immediately and they're still there

Maybe that's not actually the issue

[copper nacelle]

wtf

[rain cedar]

Alright it's good now

[cunning lagoon]

how long od you have to walk for before a cdash is better

[rain cedar]

Idk not that long walking is slow

[cunning lagoon]

it do be

[rain cedar]

I wanted to check how this looked in IL because idk how it would handle a local variable being accessed by lambdas

It's fucked

Idk what that bs is

[cunning lagoon]

the breakable ceiling on the soul warrior arena doesn't break if you don't have dive

but the floor on the other room is broken

so if you try to jump down there you just get pooped back into the previous room

[rain cedar]

Yeah that'll happen

Wow using local functions/lambdas just fucks up the decompilation so hard

[cold olive]

Aight I gotta ask, is it QoL that changes Vsync option to Input Lag?

Because that was actually hilarious to see

[cunning lagoon]

wdym

[cold olive]

When I entered video options to check whether Vsync was on (Because I felt some input delay)

It actually said Input Lag

And had "Leave on if you want the game to be unplayable"

[cunning lagoon]

o

lmao

[rain cedar]

That's me

[cunning lagoon]

yeah sounds like something sean would do

also found a very interesting post

[cold olive]

Also when I entered Dirtmouth is said "ELDERBUG is a cool dude"

[rain cedar]

Well he is

[cold olive]

You can't just jump out of Fog Canyon?

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[rain cedar]

You can, people are just stupid

Give up too easily

[cold olive]

By the way, will the money just drop on the floor when you get the seer item as well? Since you get shunted out of the dream immediately, that might be a problem.

[ornate rivet]

I finally got hornet to stop empty jumping

[cunning lagoon]

best news of the week

[ornate rivet]

I had the chance for her to do a jump when she took damage set to 0.5f before (I thought the jump led to an attack but it actually led to a state named "Set Jump Only")

[solemn basin]

Did you fix the fly away glitch?

Also, nifty with fixing empty jumps! 😄

[ornate rivet]

not yet

[ornate rivet]

Hornet's hitbox gets bigger horizontally in p3 and I cant fix it
reeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[fair rampart]

why

[floral furnace]

blame tc

[cunning lagoon]

ah

the dung defender syndrome

[ornate rivet]

what

[floral furnace]

dung defender has notorious hitboxes

[ornate rivet]

but hornet's is normal until phase 3 of the fight

[fair rampart]

Kuro, you want to show the examples again?

[ornate rivet]

I am not even changing anything

[cunning lagoon]

i think everyone has seen them by this point

[fair rampart]

k

[ornate rivet]

I tried removing every single time the game changes the hitbox size but nothing changed

[fair rampart]

What happens in phase 3 that could cause it?

[ornate rivet]

idk

[fair rampart]

The only thing I can think of is the game forgets to change back her hitbox after the dash

Not sure how that would happen tho

[ornate rivet]

the only thing I can think of is me adding an action that makes hornet face the knight when doing the counter

[fair rampart]

Unless you messed with a transition in the FSM

[cunning lagoon]

thot

[floral furnace]

cant you activate debug collider sor something

or are you using it already

[ornate rivet]

wtf is that

does that show the collider

[fair rampart]

yes

[floral furnace]

56 is told me something before about using a debugcollider component i think, then attaching it to whatever go you want to see the collider

didnt bother with it cuz i cant find it anywhere if its in the api or modcommon so i just ignored it

[fair rampart]

I'm not sure how well it works

[floral furnace]

ive seen past images of it getting to work

[fair rampart]

Like, does it properly update when a hitbox changes

[floral furnace]

i think so, since its gonna move whenever the target goes to

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[floral furnace]

so probably happens on every Update() call or something

[cunning lagoon]

👁

[ornate rivet]

Hornet goes into a state named "Idle" where her collider gets reset into the idle position so I dont understand why she would still have a big collider while doing that

I know she goes into that state because the animation plays

[iron crown]

you ever just can't jump out of fog canyon

[floral furnace]

you didnt alter anything in that idle transition

fog canyon is a myth

[ornate rivet]

I did

I made the wait time longer

[floral furnace]

idle has a action that resets the hitbox if im understanding this correctly?

[ornate rivet]

yea

oh I also deleted 2 actions from idle

wait

[floral furnace]

rough guess, probably deleted or that action is getting skipped, worst case is its just playmaker being lame as usual

[cunning lagoon]

A action 😔

[floral furnace]

obligatory bug joke

its a regional dialect kuro

[cunning lagoon]

i see

[iron crown]

which region

[cunning lagoon]

sinnoh

[fossil oxide]

honnis

[iron crown]

Really? Well I'm from Veilstone and I've never heard anyone use the phrase 'a action'

[ornate rivet]

setcollider action should happen because the setanimation action right after it happens

[cunning lagoon]

well u must have the gay

[ornate rivet]

and I dont remove an action from before that point

[iron crown]

wow 😔

[floral furnace]

upstate new york

goddamn internet ruined my joke

so basically youre sure it doesnt get skipped over, sorry i cant tell i just use SetState directly because it works

[ornate rivet]

the idle animation definitely plays

[iron crown]

really? well I'm from utica and I've never heard anyone say the phrase 'a action'

[floral furnace]

now thats a weird one

[ornate rivet]

and I dont insert anything

[floral furnace]

no uhh not in utica no its city of tears expression

like is the hitbox "broken" big?

[iron crown]

I see

[floral furnace]

or just a marginal increase

[ornate rivet]

a marginal increase

[fair rampart]

Idle just has RUN, FINISHED,TOOK DAMAGE, and EVADE, correct?

[ornate rivet]

yea

[floral furnace]

the hitbox fixes itself at finished im guessing

well, supposed to be at least

[ornate rivet]

finished happens after 0.2 seconds

[floral furnace]

obligatory top reason why i avoid modifying fsms as much as possible

[ornate rivet]

I mean it depends
if I am editing hornet then I do edit the fsm because it's usually easier but if I am trying to add another bosses attack into the hornet fight, I just destroy the fsm and recode it myself

[floral furnace]

its still a pain altogether

[fair rampart]

This is what we are dealing with

[floral furnace]

like changing fireball directions is a cluster fuck already in terms of readability

[ornate rivet]

it's not that bad, at least after staring at the hornet fsm for a month, I think it's pretty readable

[floral furnace]

get game object, get its fsm, get the game object being spawned by that fsm, get that game object thats inside that fsm's fsm etc etc

its readable but for me at least modfying it is an annoying process

[ornate rivet]

it can definitely be annoying

[floral furnace]

bosses i think shouldnt bee too complicated so thats fine i guess

[cunning lagoon]

is midwife a devout

yeah i see good point

[ornate rivet]

midwife is midwife

mindblown

[floral furnace]

DILF
Devout I Like to Fuck 😩

[cunning lagoon]

any tips for pantheon of the hallownest i cant see m to make it past sisters of battle

[ornate rivet]

I think it's not the hornet collider that is at fault because I logged her collider size and it is correct

must be a needle or something that is stuck to her

[ornate rivet]

after an hour and half of debugging, I fixed it...

[floral furnace]

whats the problem?

[weak lodge]

pantheon of hallownest too hard

tc fix game

[ornate rivet]

it didn't like it when I skipped GDash Recover

[knotty cedar]

0/10 team cherry pleas maek handicapped difficuly gaem too difficult

[fair rampart]

mega think

[ornate rivet]

definitely a pirate

[weak lodge]

pirate

[leaden hedge]

extended borrower

[knotty cedar]

extended demo tester

[mortal trout]

infinite demo tester with all the features of the game

[weak lodge]

is this kuro

[ornate rivet]

not all features

[mortal trout]

hmmm

[ornate rivet]

INSTALL LIGHTBRINGER

[knotty cedar]

lightbringer dlc hype

[mortal trout]

makes you think

[weak lodge]

still waiting on that speedrunner dlc

[ornate rivet]

alright

@cunning lagoon and @solemn basin and other people, please test my mod when you have time
Fixes:
Orb speed increases over time
No more invisible needle tinks
Bottom needle is back in Phase 1
Hornet does idle animation after every attack in P3
Ground dash in phase 3 has been tweaked
Hitbox is fixed
Transition between P2 and P3 doesn't look as bad
Bad:
HoG Statue not working bug remains
Godmaster mode bug remains
Visual Glitches on title screen remain

https://github.com/SalehAce1/Daughter-of-Hallownest

pause between each attack in p3 is 0.3 seconds, tell me if I should increase/decrease this

[solemn basin]

Will test briefly when I get home. Might get 30-60 mins before work.

Sounds like good fixes! Especially if the transition glitch is fixed!

[ornate rivet]

yea it looks decent now

[solemn basin]

Awesome looking forward to it.

[ornate rivet]

thanks

[ornate rivet]

should I make it so that the godmaster ost for hornet plays during the fight?

[fair rampart]

Probably

DoH only plays in pantheon, and on Ascended or higher

[weary oyster]

you could give her 2 phases and have it change in the middle

no idea how realistic that is but just an idea lol

[ornate rivet]

AHHH good idea

idk if I can do it though

[iron crown]

sisters of battle does that

[ornate rivet]

ok nvm empty jumps are not gone

[ornate rivet]

I get the remixed music for hornet even when I do attuned

whatever it's good enough

[hollow pier]

uh

[fair rampart]

What's wrong?

[patent radish]

oh snap enemy randomizer is downloading

my first 3 enemies were all Brooding Mawleks

[fair rampart]

Are you on normal, room, or chaos mode?

Because if you are on normal, that means every crawlid in the game is a mawlek

if you are on room, then it's just that room's crawlids that are Mawleks

[solemn basin]

@ornate rivet Definitely new Hornet theme for attuned DoH.

[fair rampart]

I feel Hornet 2 should have DoH theme play on all difficulties

and Hornet 1 should have normal theme

[solemn basin]

^ that seems best

[ornate rivet]

DoH plays for me

not modded

on attuned

idk why

this makes it hard for me to see if my mod is working

@solemn basin
Use this and see if DoH plays for you (whenever you get the chance to of course)

[solemn basin]

Is that a newer version than the one posted 1-2 hours ago?

[ornate rivet]

kind of

It has all the stuff from the last file

[solemn basin]

Okay, got to leave for work in 5 min so using the older one.

[ornate rivet]

but idk if I changed anything correctly, on my computer, DoH plays when I use it

ok

[solemn basin]

DoH plays on the previous one earlier today.

Also, you are a tricky person to have P2 elegy throw not have Hornet follow with an air dash. 😄

Will adjust tactics!

[ornate rivet]

good, I am not going crazy, the music magically works
wtf I did that?

I dont even remember removing the air dash after elegy

[solemn basin]

Odd, but yeah looks like that's the case/

The air dash is probably better to have as it usually creates an opening for some damage when Hornet jumps off the wall.

It's doable either way.

[ornate rivet]

ok

[solemn basin]

Idle animation looks better (she was bowing in the transition, oddly).

I'd have to give P3 more tries to win. Looks very doable.

[ornate rivet]

lol that's not a bow, it's her stun animation

[solemn basin]

I might be able to do a bit tonight, but will mostly try to beat it tomorrow and let you know anything major I see.

Odd.

[ornate rivet]

? was it not animated?

[solemn basin]

I think it is, just not coming to mind at the moment.

[ornate rivet]

ok

[solemn basin]

But looks like it's shaping up. 😄

[ornate rivet]

alright good luck at work

[solemn basin]

Oh, I did notice Hornet doesn't dash from one end to the end with the fire stream attack.

Was the shorter dash intentional?

[ornate rivet]

yea, now she dashes, then faces you when she counters

so the bats actually point toward you

[solemn basin]

Nifty. I'm still too used to jumping between the bats. I'm still making dumb mistakes in P1/P2, but generally seeing P3.

And I know it's doable.

Anyhow, must run have a good day!

[ornate rivet]

that's great

[hollow pier]

he's done it

[rain cedar]

Is this the bingo from last night?

[hollow pier]

no i just did this

[rain cedar]

Very nice

[hollow pier]

i crashed going into city which is what that screenshot earlier was

i forgot to post logs

[fair rampart]

Are there any flower related goals?

[hollow pier]

yeah

give to elderbug

[fair rampart]

No give to Godseeker or give to Oro?

[hollow pier]

no

the only gm goals are pale lurker and fluke hermit i think

[fair rampart]

give to Oro doesn't seem like it would be too bad

[rain cedar]

Except that oro doesn't exist in randomizer

[fair rampart]

what

[rain cedar]

He doesn't exist

[copper nacelle]

[fair rampart]

Oh, the Nail Art is just on the ground

[copper nacelle]

no

[rain cedar]

Yes

[copper nacelle]

what if it's gathering swarm smh

[fair rampart]

@copper nacelle is this u https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/risk-of-rain/images/a/a3/56_Leaf_Clover_Shipping_Details.png/revision/latest?cb=20131116131901

[copper nacelle]

hmmmmmmmm

yes

[hollow pier]

green ✅
56 ✅
it's 56

[fair rampart]

It's fifty-freakin-six

[weak lodge]

oh my god 😎

[copper nacelle]

@unborn nest tf3tf3tf3

[unborn nest]

macro key

[copper nacelle]

understandable

[unborn nest]

tabs in to random tab and types that idk why

;c

[ornate rivet]

so I was fighting hornet 1 and holy radiance was she slow

she was so slow I felt like my computer was lagging

[rain cedar]

Yeah easy boss

[ornate rivet]

no I died to her

[copper nacelle]

tf

[ornate rivet]

DoH has made hornet 1 impossible

I dodge every attack incorrectly now

[fair rampart]

She's too easy, I can't handle the pressure! dies

[ornate rivet]

I keep waiting for her to attack but she just stands there

and when she does do something

she just jumps up and falls back down

[copper nacelle]

have you tried

hitting her

[ornate rivet]

that's assault

how can I attack someone if they dont even try to attack me

[copper nacelle]

like this

[ornate rivet]

I can only do that if she does an air attack, in which case she is trying to attack me so I can attack her

[copper nacelle]

you can upslash her when she jumps

are u ok

[ornate rivet]

but she isn't attacking me when she jumps

I dont want to be accused of unjust violence

[copper nacelle]

Ok but she'll either keep jumping forever

in which case she'll probably collide with you

making her the attacker

or just attack you

therefore you can attack early in self-defense because you know she's going to try and murder you

Easy

[ornate rivet]

How can I know that she will murder me before she does it

what if she stops attacking when I have 1 hp

[copper nacelle]

because you've seen the fsm

Easy

[ornate rivet]

dont judge a bug by its fsm

[copper nacelle]

x

[ornate rivet]

x

[fair rampart]

If we judged by FSM, we would say THK was a horrible boss

[dawn oxide]

hey where does the modloader install to by default

thanks

[copper nacelle]

that's not even an answer

it installs to wherever it detects hk

[dawn oxide]

i didnt see it in my hk directory

[ornate rivet]

wat

[copper nacelle]

what

[fair rampart]

what

[rain cedar]

The installer doesn't get installed anywhere

[dawn oxide]

i could see the .txts for mods
but not the .exes

[copper nacelle]

there are no exes

[dawn oxide]

oh?

[ornate rivet]

well the modinstaller is a .exe

[fair rampart]

Mods are DLL

[copper nacelle]

go to hollow_knight_Data/Managed/Mods in there

[dawn oxide]

what about the modinstaller itself
thats what im talking aout

[copper nacelle]

it doesn't install anywhere

[fair rampart]

It's wherever you put it

[dawn oxide]

actually i might be extremely retarded
i mean i already am but i might be a bit more then i thought

im specifically trying to download the randomizer through the mod installer
however i thought the mod installer was the installer for a mod installer because im fucking retarded

[copper nacelle]

gj

[dawn oxide]

so install randomizer 2

[copper nacelle]

yes

[dawn oxide]

uh whats the room randomizer called

or is that not released

[copper nacelle]

that doesn't exist

[dawn oxide]

oh

[copper nacelle]

unless you want a really bad beta i have

get lucky to win easy

[dawn oxide]

what does RNG do

[copper nacelle]

https://streamable.com/0gnd2

[dawn oxide]

LOL

well then

[weak lodge]

LOL like it looks almost as unfair as absrad 😂

[copper nacelle]

https://streamable.com/blitv

urite

[fair rampart]

Still possible tho

[weak lodge]

lmao tc please nerf

no

stop it

stop showing off 😡

[fair rampart]

I didn't say it was possible for me

I just meant in general

[weak lodge]

oh 😎

do these people even exist

[fair rampart]

Death mod is truly impossible

Because Uumuu

[weak lodge]

death mod

more like

nightmare grimm 😎

[copper nacelle]

death mod markoth weary

[fair rampart]

game freezes

[weak lodge]

50 shield markman when

[copper nacelle]

no

[weak lodge]

f# is a language

so is spanish 😎

[fair rampart]

f#ck

[dawn oxide]

ok so
i wanted the mod in this video
but is it randomizer 2? because enemies didnt seem to work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXeValyCLc0

[copper nacelle]

e

it's enemy rando

and rando

rando is items

enemy rando is enemies

[fair rampart]

Cranky's doing Enemy rando?

[dawn oxide]

well now i feel stupid for missing that on the installer

[patent radish]

he did both

[fair rampart]

Hope nothing important was at flukemarm

because Enemy Rando screws that up

[wind helm]

Yeah randomizer doesn't seem to work for me

[fair rampart]

Enemy Rando should blacklist Siblings from Challenge rooms

They don't truly die

[copper nacelle]

When you start a new save it has an options menu which should show up

[wind helm]

it's called enemy randomizer right

and randomizer 2

[patent radish]

yep

[wind helm]

other mods worked but those two didn't

[copper nacelle]

Did you hit load for enemy rando

[rain cedar]

"It doesn't work xd" is by far the least helpful thing anyone ever says when expecting support

[wind helm]

yeah i think so

[rain cedar]

And yet almost everyone does it

[wind helm]

lmao ill try a new file

yeah i dunno what else to say

[rain cedar]

How about steps for what you've tried?

[fair rampart]

You tried to randomize a file... where you already had the items?

[rain cedar]

Or an explanation of what "not working" means

[wind helm]

lmao yes

ok im dumb

I see this now

[copper nacelle]

;fsm

@river eagle why

[river eagle]

wa

[fair rampart]

**Saves**

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Save Files: %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\

Mac File Paths

Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/

[river eagle]

well that works at least..

[fair rampart]

**Saves**

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Save Files: %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\

Mac File Paths

Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/

[copper nacelle]

okay

[river eagle]

;assets

wtf

[copper nacelle]

weary

[river eagle]

;apidocs

;mac

[ornate rivet]

apidocs suck anyways so not a big loss

[copper nacelle]

🤔

[river eagle]

;mods

[copper nacelle]

why

[river eagle]

but why does ;saves work

[fair rampart]

**Saves**

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Save Files: %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\

Mac File Paths

Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/

[ornate rivet]

2 stuck together words describe the API perfectly:
"TODO"

[fair rampart]

**Assets**

Assets can be found pinned here
You can get Asset Studio to get assets from the game files here
You can get UABE to directly edit assets here (but using a API mod is better)

[copper nacelle]

@river eagle

[river eagle]

wha

why

REEEEEEEEE

[fair rampart]

***API Docs***

API docs can be found here

[river eagle]

kms

[copper nacelle]

I know why

[ornate rivet]

someone should at least fill in the PlayMakerFSM section

[copper nacelle]

you do it

[ornate rivet]

that's kind of important

oof

[fair rampart]

**Mac**

Yes, mods can be installed on a mac.
You can use the installer
To run the installer:

1. Open the Terminal
2. Type mono --arch=32
3. Drag the exe onto the terminal and then hit Return/Enter

If this fails with bash: mono: command not found, install mono here

**FSM Viewer**

You can find the latest version of @dark wigeon's FSM viewer here
You can also dump FSMs by adding a ModCommon reference to your mod and doing

gameObject.PrintSceneHierarchyTree("filename")
```This will put a text dump of the GameObject and its FSMs in the Mods folder
You can also obtain .json(s) of FSMs by using the FSM dumper mod found [here](https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9cVhoMEdfV3I3YUk)

[ornate rivet]

woah

that's pretty useful

[copper nacelle]

haha yes

[unborn badger]

wasn't someone working on an hk level editor or was that just a joke

[ornate rivet]

that's happening soon

Nes is making it

[unborn badger]

oh fuck yeah

hopefully it's like

better than Rain World's editor

oh god

[fair rampart]

**Assets**

Assets can be found pinned here
You can get Asset Studio to get assets from the game files here
You can get UABE to directly edit assets here (but using a API mod is better)

[river eagle]

[fair rampart]

**FSM Viewer**

You can find the latest version of @dark wigeon's FSM viewer here
You can also dump FSMs by adding a ModCommon reference to your mod and doing

gameObject.PrintSceneHierarchyTree("filename")
```This will put a text dump of the GameObject and its FSMs in the Mods folder
You can also obtain .json(s) of FSMs by using the FSM dumper mod found [here](https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9cVhoMEdfV3I3YUk)

[river eagle]

@copper nacelle it's doing a big work

[fair rampart]

***API Docs***

API docs can be found here

[river eagle]

oh right

god fucking damnit

[unborn badger]

wow hal ban for spam

[river eagle]

I forgot to remove the one * in api docs..

[copper nacelle]

nice

[unborn badger]

finna get right on the level editor once it's out

i have ideas

[copper nacelle]

is what got added

[fair rampart]

**Example Mods**

Example mods can be found here

[river eagle]

right

[ornate rivet]

the example mods dont work though iirc

I remember when I was trying to learn how to mod, I couldn't get them to work

[copper nacelle]

they're still good examples for settings

[ornate rivet]

ok but I think there should at least be a disclaimer

[fair rampart]

**API Docs**

API docs can be found here

[river eagle]

much better

[cunning lagoon]

she still empty hops

saleh you lied

[rotund mica]

Is there still an active Enemy Randomizer?

[cunning lagoon]

yes

[rotund mica]

Which one? I was reading the guide and the one i saw said it was broken

[cunning lagoon]

i don't think it is broken

get it from the installer

[rotund mica]

Hmm. thanks

[fair rampart]

**Mods**

Google Drive with Mods
Installer
Mod Summaries

[rain cedar]

mods command sucks because it gives choices and the first choice (which everyone will click) isn't the installer

[copper nacelle]

shit urite

[cunning lagoon]

this is true

@ornate rivet https://youtu.be/-5c8CrT79uI she went oob

also i still think bees are broken

[copper nacelle]

😩

lmao

[weak lodge]

hmmm

rare footage of 56 using weary

[copper nacelle]

[solemn basin]

@cunning lagoon Had a similar thing happen where she flew off into space.

Her home planet needed her.

[cunning lagoon]

lmao

[weak lodge]

common footage od kuro saying shut up nerd

[copper nacelle]

shut up nerd

[weak lodge]

hmm

[solemn basin]

https://youtu.be/FIapAWTZqxs

[weak lodge]

smh why not streamable

[solemn basin]

😦

[copper nacelle]

streamable is worse

[solemn basin]

Have to try the new version and see how P3 works. The flame dragons throw me off when the top one moves downward after traveling far.

Old version you could jump through no matter the distance.

[cunning lagoon]

the bats are either bugged or super nerfed

[weak lodge]

kuro empty hops mod when

[trim python]

@copper nacelle someone said you made nightmare god grimm

i require proof of your unholy handiwork

[copper nacelle]

i didn't

that was KDT

https://github.com/KayDeeTee/hk-ngg

[weary oyster]

imagine thinking 56 knows how to code

[cunning lagoon]

this tbh

[copper nacelle]

imagine thinking ax2u knows how to baldur shell

[cunning lagoon]

ax im moderately angry at you for not streaming the race

[weary oyster]

i was tired ok

[trim python]

so how do i watch it

[copper nacelle]

?

What

[weary oyster]

streaming is like 5 times the mental effort

[copper nacelle]

It's a mod

[weak lodge]

what level of rarted have we come across

[trim python]

oh

wtf

i wanna watch it

[weak lodge]

um

[fair rampart]

youtube

[copper nacelle]

https://youtu.be/vHO5eJjXCJo

[fair rampart]

searchbar

[weak lodge]

searchbar doesnt exist smh

[copper nacelle]

or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn4W6B278oU&t=1s

[fair rampart]

or just watch embed video, that works too

[weak lodge]

rather give kurosh the views

[trim python]

cloak spike luck

:ech:

wHOA

[cunning lagoon]

https://youtu.be/UPQJSk20HmI got a better one bois

saleh fix your shit

[trim python]

I SAW ECH CAT POP UP FOR A SEC

[weak lodge]

1st phase of the fight is really good

[rain cedar]

https://youtu.be/vvrXa3ZwOZ0

[copper nacelle]

lmao

[cunning lagoon]

please tell me that's gonna be in rando

[hollow pier]

56 please let me input after stags in qol

i beg

[rain cedar]

Idk it can't go in rando as is

[cunning lagoon]

why not

[rain cedar]

Incredible coding prowess

[weak lodge]

bow down to sean

[copper nacelle]

ascended

nested on hooks

[cunning lagoon]

dude i pushed her oob again

[copper nacelle]

is this god

wow nice

Stags are just cutscenes right

I could maybe add that to SkipCutscenes

[cunning lagoon]

the stag cutscene already gets skipped

[copper nacelle]

no ptkyr wanted his input to keep working

[cunning lagoon]

what

[fair rampart]

what

[rain cedar]

You have to press the button again

[copper nacelle]

^

[cunning lagoon]

what does this mean

[hollow pier]

kuro you use kb don't you experience this

[rain cedar]

It means you have to press it again

[cunning lagoon]

the thing where if you hold the button it doesnt work anbd you have to repress it?

[rain cedar]

This is pretty basic

[copper nacelle]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

i dont think i have experienced that in cp

[hollow pier]

???????????

[cunning lagoon]

it happens when leaving kp on 1221

and at stags on 1221

never happened to me in cp

maybe im used to releasing the button and repressing it and i dont notice it

is the rando with randomized chests out ytet

[hollow pier]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

very good

[rain cedar]

You should probably actually read #races-discussion

People talk about rando a lot in there

[cunning lagoon]

hm ok

ah yes swinging my nail between 2 torches

my favourite rando discussion

56 acq me a stream

[river eagle]

@copper nacelle by the way, when writing a zote.send_message command, do I actually have to include a line break after a \n or can I just continue typing after it and it will put whatever I write there on a next line?

for example would ("something something\n something") come out as

something something
something

[rain cedar]

Yes that works

[hollow pier]

https://youtu.be/34zIpq_rVCQ big cow poop post

[cunning lagoon]

that doesn't happen to me

[river eagle]

@rain cedar if I put it like something\n\n something, would it come out as

something

something

[copper nacelle]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

i hold the button right after selecting the stag and it works

[river eagle]

alright

[hollow pier]

space something imo

[cunning lagoon]

it literally doesn't happen

i think you are just bad

[hollow pier]

🤔

[cunning lagoon]

doers the fury chest always contain 655

or is the amount random

[hollow pier]

wow if only

dlkurosh

would check

#races-discussion

[cunning lagoon]

you asked "is fury always geo"

im asking "is fury always 655 specifically"

[hollow pier]

wow if only

you would read

that i got 380

wow

[cunning lagoon]

how am i supposed to know that its related

[hollow pier]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[cunning lagoon]

anyWway i almost lost 655 geo to the club guy pog

[rain cedar]

anyWway

[cunning lagoon]

so whats the lowest geo you can get

[rain cedar]

150

[cunning lagoon]

from that chest

ok

[hollow pier]

can you not get shit chests at fury

[rain cedar]

Yeah you can't get the 80 or 85

[copper nacelle]

Why tf can't you swap an elevator's direction while it's moving anymore

[hollow pier]

are those the buffed numbers

[cunning lagoon]

isn't that how they fixed televatoring

[rain cedar]

They're not buffed just excluded

You get them somewhere else

[hollow pier]

i think only down works for some reason

[copper nacelle]

that's kinda cancer

[cunning lagoon]

real shit crystal aspids need a nerf

[copper nacelle]

what if i just export the json for the elevator fsm from 1221

and load it back in

[hollow pier]

they are

HUNTERS

not

ASPIDS

😡

[cunning lagoon]

but they fly and shoot

like aspids

[hollow pier]

but winged nosk does

[cunning lagoon]

you mean aspid nosk?

[rain cedar]

Does this work?

Idk if the order is guaranteed

[hollow pier]

😠

[rain cedar]

When it's not actually in a static constructor

[cunning lagoon]

56 I ASKED FOR A STREAM

[copper nacelle]

I think it should but idk

[hollow pier]

twitch.tv/homothety

[rain cedar]

Whatever it's not actually important that it works

[cunning lagoon]

i want a 5fiftysix6 stream 😡

[copper nacelle]

Okay

[hollow pier]

homothety is literally 56 but he's not 56 and he's homothety

[copper nacelle]

e

[cunning lagoon]

pog

[copper nacelle]

😩

[cunning lagoon]

yo is hornet softlock still a thing

[rain cedar]

I don't need a new random in the hook

Whoops

[weary oyster]

only situation you cant change elevator direction is if you initiated the movement with a ground lever im pretty sure

[rain cedar]

There we go

[cunning lagoon]

also when does iselda open her shop

[rain cedar]

iselda

his

Idk it's open after fk at least

[fair rampart]

It's open after you either buy the map or cornifer leaves crossroads

[cunning lagoon]

and he leaves after fk?

[hollow pier]

since he's the main boss i guess so

[cunning lagoon]

Ok

[rain cedar]

Corny leaves even if you skip fk

[cunning lagoon]

claw at vs

56 where my stream at

[copper nacelle]

literally streaming

[cunning lagoon]

wtf

[rain cedar]

Incredible

[fair rampart]

expert platforming skills by 56 on stream

[river eagle]

wow I sure do like vi getting stuck and having to restart the entire container because of that and losing all my progress

[fair rampart]

imagine dying to the Radiance

[rain cedar]

Right? I exclusively die to false knight

[rain cedar]

This actually works

Incredible

[copper nacelle]

lmao

[weak lodge]

Hey @copper nacelle check discussion for a sec I want your opinion on it

Kuro mind taking a look and recking a libtard

I don’t have the mental stability to do it

[rain cedar]

Oh it's a politics thing

[cunning lagoon]

sean did you make it so the acid at isma's tear is always down if you kill dung defender

[rain cedar]

I didn't even read it

Fuck off mate, this isn't the place for it

And no I didn't touch the dung acid

[cunning lagoon]

i guess i hit the lever and i didnt notice

[cunning lagoon]

lmao

[weak lodge]

Politics

[hollow pier]

@rain cedar how do you feel about the one concern and its views on usage of ivory

[weak lodge]

What’s that again

[rain cedar]

It's bad

[weak lodge]

No air swim

[hollow pier]

sean what cat do i run when i get the game

please suggest a sub1 cat

[blissful burrow]

@copper nacelle hey don't check discussion

[copper nacelle]

low% challenge

[rain cedar]

Sub 1 ok

Any% standard

[weak lodge]

Agreed I take back my statement

Don’t

[blissful burrow]

@copper nacelle can you get a fucking run already

It's been like 3 weeks

[weak lodge]

Wdym didn’t he try yesterday

[hollow pier]

i will run any% and i will do white skip

unbuffered

because that's how gamer i am

[weak lodge]

Wow that’s epic gamer

Time to ping for Political bullshit

[blissful burrow]

who the fuck are you gonna do white skip unbuffered

*how

[leaden hedge]

just do it

[hollow pier]

by being me

[weak lodge]

Pete is a godsend

[blissful burrow]

Imma pull a Pete here for a sec

❌

[hollow pier]

can we get a !bloodtype in chat

[blissful burrow]

Bloodtype: Gamer

[weak lodge]

Damn

[hollow pier]

that's right

[weak lodge]

He’s a gamer

[blissful burrow]

Pete play me

[hollow pier]

speaking of gamers where is timesink

he came for the let down of a money match

and died

[blissful burrow]

He ran away from the money match

And can't show his face

[hollow pier]

do i run degs

[weak lodge]

Inb4 every time you hit false knight he makes an annoying sound

Oh shit that’s Sean’s job

Alright 56 I know I promised you today I’ll start but May I extend that promise to tomorrow

Thanks

[leaden hedge]

no

i recommend you take him to court for breaking his contract 56

and sue him for all he is worth

[weak lodge]

I declare bankruptcy

[leaden hedge]

you can't just declare bankruptcy

[weak lodge]

Shit uhh

[copper nacelle]

😡

[weak lodge]

😩

[blissful burrow]

"can someone rage this man"

Does it himself

This guy

[weak lodge]

What a lad

All glitches run

[blissful burrow]

"don't worry you need to rage him too, that's the thing"

"give him the double rage"

Well you're no boss of mine you stupid ass non runner

😩

[leaden hedge]

double rage

quadruple rage better

[weak lodge]

quintuple rage omega woke

[blissful burrow]

What a lad

Misses the platform on KP

Future WR holder

[weak lodge]

Ok what if I delay my promise even more by trying to get sub 3:20 PoP tomorrow instead

[blissful burrow]

🙁

Is this good enough 56

np

[weak lodge]

😔

Wait Ttacco exists

Hmmm

[floral furnace]

homework is death

[weak lodge]

Ttacco missed the political bullshit

[floral furnace]

the only thing i learned so far is that object arrays are lame

yeah i can see that

[weak lodge]

Call it a blessing

[floral furnace]

Dunno man sometimes i go when something spicy is happening