#archived-modding-development

1 messages ยท Page 308 of 1

copper nacelle
#

Because it's a different type of language

compact sedge
#

oh wait

weak lodge
#

look ive put this shit off for 4 months now

compact sedge
#

eee

copper nacelle
#

Biggest think

floral furnace
#

i dont think c++ is oop tho, is it?

weak lodge
#

i think i should get fucking started

copper nacelle
#

C++ has classes but I don't think it's oop

#

iirc

floral furnace
#

i see

compact sedge
#

yes it is

cunning lagoon
#

out of pounds

hollow pier
#

it's oop because any time 56 codes he says oops

weak lodge
#

so c# or f#

hollow pier
#

i broke everything

copper nacelle
#

c++ confirmed to be java

compact sedge
#

well actually I don't know how you define object oriented

floral furnace
#

best thing you can do knightmere is to just do, if you make mistakes thats fine thats pretty much your "i should never do this again" guide

compact sedge
#

that you wouldn't consider c++ to be that

floral furnace
#

polymophism and shit

weak lodge
#

why does 56 use ryder

#

instead of vs

compact sedge
#

he doesn't

#

I do

cunning lagoon
#

because i ryde his mom

floral furnace
#

IDEs is just a crutch hollowdab

#

real code lordes use notepad and compile it on cmd

copper nacelle
#

AA

#

more like

#

wrong

weak lodge
#

so stick with vs?

floral furnace
#

AA quick say "u" as a counter arguement

#

yeah

#

its like one of hte only few ides that uses .net iirc

#

or compiles, i dont know the semantics that much

compact sedge
#

ok

#

me

#

wait I did that wrong

#

I got a popup in libreoffice the other day

#

which apparently happens on one in every 250 documents

#

asking if I would like to contribute to it

dusky lion
#

56 explain to me โ™ฟ I don't understand it why did it become a meme

compact sedge
#

and honestly it's a tempting offer

#

all of it is c++

weak lodge
copper nacelle
#

Because I started using it on people's messages

#

Simple

floral furnace
#

2019 is not yet of exist

compact sedge
#

is it weird that I want to work on a fucking office program?

copper nacelle
#

Yes

compact sedge
#

understandable

cunning lagoon
#

no

#

dont listen to ybham

copper nacelle
#

Wait is it paid

floral furnace
#

office more like, monotone job on a desk amirite

compact sedge
#

no

copper nacelle
#

Ok then yes

dusky lion
#

Office products are god tier

#

to be tbh

#

stop with the wheelchair

copper nacelle
#

No

dusky lion
#

Or I will weeb global emoji you

floral furnace
#

tfw when

dusky lion
#

the feels when when

floral furnace
#

youre on a wheel chair and like, "im on a wheel chair"

#

โ™ฟ

weak lodge
copper nacelle
#

what's with the random int

floral furnace
#

because

dusky lion
#

finch is indeed gay

#

great detective work

floral furnace
#

is console a class or library ๐Ÿค”

weak lodge
#

finch sorry for the overused meme

floral furnace
#

namespace*

#

wtv

weak lodge
#

excuse me what

#

what are those

copper nacelle
#

Namespaces can't hold methods

floral furnace
#

you mean, WHAT ARE THOSEE

weak lodge
#

what

copper nacelle
#

The namespace is System

weak lodge
#

namespace

floral furnace
#

ahh ok ok got it

#

couldnt you like, directly just, call the method without writing the class name

copper nacelle
#

If you have a using static yeah

floral furnace
#

writing console is like 678945 seconds longer than just WriteLine, or does the compiler have no idea what "WriteLine" is if you dont specify where it came from

weak lodge
#

can you two help me out here, what is a namespace

floral furnace
#

a collection of libraries, holding several classes

#

iirc

#

to be tbh

copper nacelle
#

It has no idea unless you add ```cs
using static System.Console;

weak lodge
floral furnace
#

Console is a static class right?

copper nacelle
#

Probably idk

cunning lagoon
#

very funny (he said the g word)

copper nacelle
#

Pretty sure you can just do that on any class for static method usage but don't quote me on that

weak lodge
#

i umm

#

ill do this tomorrow

floral furnace
#

no i was just wondering if you can make a Console instance

weak lodge
#

56 youll be here right

copper nacelle
#

maybe

#

I don't think so ๐ŸŒฎ

weak lodge
#

damn 56 fucking dying tomorrow

compact sedge
#

Hey I found a bug I actually have the skill level to fix on libreoffice

copper nacelle
floral furnace
#

๐Ÿ˜ฉ

wispy lynx
#

56 you done goofed

cunning lagoon
#

56 you actually broke everything

copper nacelle
#

What

hollow pier
#

56 ๐Ÿ˜ก

wispy lynx
#

its actually

#

over

cunning lagoon
#

lmao

weak lodge
#

well see you memers later ill go sleep or somthing just not code GWchadThink

copper nacelle
#

Wtf

weak lodge
#

56 get off mobile

copper nacelle
#

No

weak lodge
#

.

copper nacelle
#

@wispy lynx whatmst

young walrus
#

trams no work

copper nacelle
#

Wtf

wispy lynx
#

yeah trams are a bit lazy for mick

#

they dont wanna move

weak lodge
#

stop starting sentences with capital letters so it will be harder to recognize at least thanks

cunning lagoon
#

this guy

hollow pier
#

also stags no work a bit

#

you just

copper nacelle
#

Tf

hollow pier
#

like die

wispy lynx
#

i mean stags work more than the tram

hollow pier
#

they leave you

#

every time

wispy lynx
#

so ill take it

copper nacelle
#

ffs

young walrus
#

literally broke all the things

hollow pier
#

max file size is 8mb large think

#

no api for you mick

copper nacelle
#

Ok what

#

Stags work for me

#

What's the fastest tram to get to

cunning lagoon
young walrus
#

stags work, but the stag himself disappears

copper nacelle
#

my stag is still there

young walrus
#

have to call him back

#

every time

hollow pier
#

[X]

cunning lagoon
#

perhaps its actually a rando bug

rain cedar
#

no

hollow pier
#

no

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
#

ok but use him

young walrus
#

you push version 46?

cunning lagoon
#

ride him somewhere else

copper nacelle
#

I just did

young walrus
#

cuz i'm on your "45"

copper nacelle
#

this is after riding him

#

Yeah but that's just a tiny change for making the mod menu work

#

I also haven't updated rando ๐Ÿ™‚

cunning lagoon
#

so is it sean who has to fix his shit

rain cedar
#

no

cunning lagoon
#

it does look like 56 is actually not the culprit here

trim totem
#

56 is always the culprit

copper nacelle
#

Checking trams rn

#

rude

#

@rain cedar fix ur mod

#

my tram works fine

hollow pier
#

mick just tested

#

it's sean

copper nacelle
rain cedar
#

It's not me

#

I just stagged to dirtmouth and the stag went with me

#

Haven't updated api

hollow pier
young walrus
#

tram didn't work for me

copper nacelle
#

New api + new rando?

cunning lagoon
#

the plot thickens

copper nacelle
#

Maybe it's the async load

hollow pier
#

maybe it's qol

#

the plot thinnens

rain cedar
#

56 fix ur shit

cunning lagoon
#

56 fix ur shit

hollow pier
#

56 fix ur shit

copper nacelle
#

It literally works for me with new rando

young walrus
#

it's QoL

copper nacelle
#

y'all bad

#

wow nice

#

wait i literally have qol on

rain cedar
#

๐Ÿ˜ฉ

copper nacelle
rain cedar
#

I don't know what mod broke but at least I know it's 56's fault

young walrus
#

is it the save shit you were messing with?

copper nacelle
#

What

young walrus
#

to save the QoL settings in the API?

#

i dunno. I benched. you alt+f4 all the time

copper nacelle
#

that's literally just unloading mods at the start

#

My tram still works

#

And I got whatever QoL was on the gdrive off the installer

#

just to make sure

rain cedar
#

I have everything up to date except api and it works

copper nacelle
#

try updating api

cunning lagoon
#

looks like you are free to go 56

copper nacelle
#

doubt but okay

hollow pier
#

the suspect is now playerdatadump

cunning lagoon
#

shocking, i know

copper nacelle
rain cedar
#

I updated api and stag still works

#

Can the culprit be mick now?

copper nacelle
#

Okay I installed PDT and it still works

young walrus
#

it's PDD

rain cedar
#

Open up the tracker

#

Webpage

#

56

#

See if that breaks it

copper nacelle
#

Okay

young walrus
#

I was turning it on/off

#

only let me travel when off

copper nacelle
#

pdd doesn't even load for me with the new api

rain cedar
#

pog

copper nacelle
#

It also breaks my mod menu

rain cedar
#

And removing some unused stuff

copper nacelle
#

amazing

young walrus
#

what'd wyza change though?

#

anything?

#

probably not in PDD

#

only the tracker

rain cedar
#

He just uploaded the changes he did a while ago

copper nacelle
#

I can't load any new mods with the new api nice

rain cedar
#

fix ur shit

copper nacelle
#

fixing

#

Okay I fixed it

rain cedar
#

What was wrong?

copper nacelle
#

Not the stags idk about that

#

but it wouldn't put new mods in the mod menu

rain cedar
#

Oh ok

#

fix ur shit

copper nacelle
#

which means they'd die a few lines later and not load

#

i just did

#

๐Ÿ‡ช

rain cedar
#

No you didn't the stag/tram still breaks

copper nacelle
#

i blame pdd

#

idk it works for me

rain cedar
#

Does it work even with the webpage up?

copper nacelle
#

Wait I can actually test with pdd now

#

Do you just open the url

#

I have Not connected

rain cedar
#

Is the game open and the mod on?

copper nacelle
#

Yes

rain cedar
#

Idk then

#

Go to one of the actual profile urls

copper nacelle
#

white screen

rain cedar
#

Configure it

#

To have stuff

copper nacelle
#

Ok it works in chrome

rain cedar
#

What even controls stag location?

#

Bool probably

#

Idk

copper nacelle
#

EchoInt: tramLowerPosition = 1

#

Wait I think my tram stopped working

rain cedar
copper nacelle
#

tram machine broke

rain cedar
#

API isn't throwing an error so the function doesn't die

#

So the SetIntInternal happens

copper nacelle
#

It echos the int change

#

but nothing happens

rain cedar
#

Is it not set in your save?

copper nacelle
#

I'll bench and check

compact sedge
#

solving triple integrals by hand is pain

#

It's not hard just annoying

copper nacelle
#

It's not set

#

Wait what the fuck

#

When I go through the door it sets it back to 1

compact sedge
#

huh

#

why

floral furnace
#

calculus GWcorbinHolyFuck

rain cedar
#

Didn't you say it was set to 1 before?

#

So back to 1 is the same number

copper nacelle
#

I was probably reading the door set

#

When I press the tram button it tries to set it to 2

rain cedar
#

That makes sense

#

So what is the issue?

copper nacelle
#

When I transition it goes from 2 or 0 to 1

#

which is back where I started

rain cedar
#

Idk why it would do that

copper nacelle
#

Yeah

#

It's EchoInt too

rain cedar
#

What's the room name of the tram?

copper nacelle
#

ROOM_TRAM

#

or do you mean Abyss_03

rain cedar
#

The tram door control doesn't have an int set action anywhere in it

#

But it does have some weird shit

copper nacelle
#

Fun

rain cedar
#

Whatever, not relevant

#

Time for the fsm viewer to crash when I try to go back to the fsm list ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

copper nacelle
#

Are you using the new version

rain cedar
#

Too lazy for that

copper nacelle
rain cedar
#

I already checked door1-Door Control

copper nacelle
#

Door Target

rain cedar
#

Gonna check Tram Station Check-Station Check

#

I'll look at that one next

#

I don't think door target is it either

#

It just checks the tram position and chooses which scene to load

copper nacelle
#

Wait I figured it out

#

Maybe

rain cedar
copper nacelle
rain cedar
#

Wtf where did it go?

copper nacelle
#

No clue

young walrus
rain cedar
#

I recompiled with no changes

#

ok

copper nacelle
#

Wtf

#

Nice

rain cedar
#

lazy

copper nacelle
#

updated

cunning lagoon
#

56 u down 4 rando race

copper nacelle
#

no i have to study

cunning lagoon
#

what the fuck

#

drop out already

trim totem
#

imagine having to study

cunning lagoon
#

khan do you rando

trim totem
#

i randon't

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
#

this is not epic

rain cedar
#

Just don't study

#

Play rando

cunning lagoon
#

^

copper nacelle
#

Ascended

young walrus
#

it's what i do

copper nacelle
#

But also this quiz decides my grade because quizzes are like 40% of your grade

#

so no thanks

#

Because there are no other quizzes in

rain cedar
#

Your grades don't matter you're in like 2nd grade

cunning lagoon
#

this tbh

#

you already ditched your terraria boys for your grades

#

don't do it again GWbratWhy

hollow pier
#

the b o y s GWbratWhy

trim totem
#

56 aren't you a boy genius just drop out of school and start a company or some shit

cunning lagoon
#

make a living off of getting your ass kicked by me in races

rain cedar
#

Race pete free win

#

He'll just leave to eat for the entire time

cunning lagoon
#

i already did

rain cedar
#

I mean now

#

Not in the past

#

That much should be obvious

cunning lagoon
#

not breaking the game when updating pdd should be obvious yet here we are

rain cedar
#

Idk how that even happened

#

Visual studio literally just didn't include part of the code

#

When it compiled

#

I never touched that

copper nacelle
#

The compiler just assumed you'd have another mod which would call SetInt so it optimized it out

#

stay woke

rain cedar
#

Same

young walrus
#

k trams work again

#

and stags

rain cedar
#

Yeah that'll happen

young walrus
#

what was the other shit that broke? oh yeah. shade hp

#

is that fixed too now?

rain cedar
#

Makes sense

#

Anything int based would be broken

#

Should all be good now

young walrus
#

๐Ÿ‘

copper nacelle
#

I think bool was missing set too

rain cedar
#

Makes sense that didn't break

copper nacelle
rain cedar
#

Rando sets bool

copper nacelle
#

o

cunning lagoon
#

does the stuff in the drive work atm?

copper nacelle
#

Yes

rain cedar
#

I should make a mod that just stops bad mods from breaking the game

cunning lagoon
#

very nice

rain cedar
#

Hook all the set functions and set internal

copper nacelle
#

wokest

cunning lagoon
#

nice nice

#

got an infinite loading screen after fury

copper nacelle
#

logs

#

no stop why

#

i saw that relaunch

cunning lagoon
#

oops

#

isn't that a vanilla thing anyway

copper nacelle
#

apparently

cunning lagoon
#

wait do they get replaced after closing the game or opening or when

copper nacelle
#

opening

cunning lagoon
#

rip

#

it's ok i'll replicate it :)

#

i did not replicate it

copper nacelle
#

Understandable

rain cedar
#

@brave viper Hey your autosplitter doesn't have a license, would it be ok if I used parts of it for another component?

cunning lagoon
#

is there any reason to pick up the city crest

brave viper
#

Sure, what ya making?

cunning lagoon
#

the left side door doesnt exist right?

hollow pier
#

is there a reason to not pick it up

copper nacelle
#

The left door doesn't exist if you have city crest

cunning lagoon
#

ah i see

rain cedar
#

Spent geo tracker for bingo

cunning lagoon
#

both were on savewarps

copper nacelle
#

wait

rain cedar
#

[INFO]:[RandomizerMod] - Detected preload scene , reloading Quit_To_Menu (left1)

copper nacelle
#

uhh

rain cedar
#

ok

copper nacelle
#

whoops

cunning lagoon
#

56 fix your shit yadda yadda

copper nacelle
#

the || should've been an ! &&

cunning lagoon
#

ty

rain cedar
#

Oh this actually was 56's fault

#

Even when my mod breaks something it's still 56

cunning lagoon
#

lmao

copper nacelle
#

I was trying to fix a useless NRE but I just made it so NREs are instant yes preloads

cunning lagoon
#

can u make it to baldu hsell with a shade skip im assuming yes

rain cedar
#

That depends on a lot of things

#

Mainly your items

cunning lagoon
#

shade skip only

#

and something to kill them ofc

rain cedar
#

Oh you said with not without

#

Yes

cunning lagoon
#

aight cool

cunning lagoon
#

did you add the flukemarm instakill

rain cedar
#

No

cunning lagoon
#

ok

#

you did not fix the isma's tear text ๐Ÿค”

rain cedar
#

o

#

I solved the mystery

#

I'm using string.IsNullOrEmpty when I should just be checking null

copper nacelle
#

Nice

#

string.IsNullOrEmpty is actually god

rain cedar
#

There's an even better one

#

But it's not in 3.5

copper nacelle
rain cedar
#

string.IsNullOrWhitespace

copper nacelle
#

god v2

cunning lagoon
#

you called?

rain cedar
#

no

cunning lagoon
#

๐Ÿ˜”

floral furnace
#

begone falsifier, return to your realm of spikes and sawblades

rain cedar
#

Hitless path of nightmare king pantheon 6 or no God title

copper nacelle
#

Static extensions are actually a thing in F#

cunning lagoon
#

backwards

rain cedar
#

Static extensions would be so nice

cunning lagoon
#

[WR]

rain cedar
#

Also static indexers

copper nacelle
#

Yes

rain cedar
#

And property extensions

copper nacelle
#

Property extensions would be sick

rain cedar
#

That could easily be implemented just with a preprocesser before compilation

cunning lagoon
#

is the quick soul master fight a rando or a qol thing

rain cedar
#

Just switch the property to the actual methods

#

Randomizer

cunning lagoon
#

very good sean

rain cedar
#

Soul master wastes too much time

cunning lagoon
#

i enjoy this change

rain cedar
#

Thanks I tried really hard

copper nacelle
#

What's the change?

rain cedar
#

I just set the encounter bools true for a few bosses

copper nacelle
#

๐Ÿ˜ฉ

cunning lagoon
#

no more waiting 15s at the start of the fight ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

rain cedar
#

But now you can't heal for free

#

Worth it though

floral furnace
#

yeah but you gotta admit him just teleporting in your face with a guy dropping bricks on an organ to make the music was pretty cool even tho it takes 5 centuries for him to teleport

rain cedar
#

I wanted to make hornet 2 intro fast too but it's actually magic

#

There's no bool or scene data thing

#

Or int

#

Idk

copper nacelle
rain cedar
#

Maybe it's a temporary fsm variable like radiance

#

Fast until you restart the game

copper nacelle
#

yeah

rain cedar
#

Never tried dying to hornet 2 then restarting

compact sedge
#

what kinda shitty strings are just whitespace

floral furnace
#

Trim

cunning lagoon
#

Trimoni

floral furnace
#

wait is s = " "; an actual valid string

compact sedge
#

yes

#

why not

floral furnace
#

i mean, if you append a character there would it retain all the white space

cunning lagoon
#

Lmao yes

floral furnace
#

oh wow im dumb it does

leaden hedge
#

is new String((char)0, 420); a valid string

floral furnace
#

also reminded me why i still havent trashed netbeans

cunning lagoon
#

@copper nacelle more qol stuff skip the first overcharm animation entirely

#

so the first time you try to overcharm in a savefile it goes in the first tiome

floral furnace
rain cedar
#

fuck bees and they deserve to stop beeing alive

floral furnace
#

yo theres no char int string arg in java this is lame

#

also i mean, they do

#

flying around, pollinating and shit

rain cedar
#

char int string

#

What does this even mean?

floral furnace
#

new string accepting a char and an int for its arguement

#

im bad at making sentences yw

rain cedar
#

Oh I see what you mean

#

Just don't use java

floral furnace
#

ikr

rain cedar
#

I like how python does it

#

'A' * 5 is "AAAAA"

floral furnace
#

@ aa is this u

#

also real shit i should try learning python some day

rain cedar
#

But there's nobody with that nick right now

floral furnace
#

oh yeah aa returned back to rad host

leaden hedge
#

learn python

#

as if you need to learn it

floral furnace
#

but but, online article #2948322 said its really great, and how everyone and their mothers will be using it in the future

#

also AI

rain cedar
#

Personally I think applescript is the future

#

None of this python nonsense

leaden hedge
#

the main thing people use python for, is maths / science stuff like plotting graphs and stuff

#

and I guess it does have some AI libraries, but thats more for people to learn how NNs work

rain cedar
#

NN Noodle Nozzle

cunning lagoon
#

monomon didn't hardsave me

#

NoHardSaves was off

#

( @copper nacelle )

#

neither did herrah

#

56 fix ur shit

dusky lion
#

I don't have pepehands but pretend I reacted with that to the above message

cunning lagoon
#

finch u play rando?

dusky lion
#

I have never done a speedrun in the entire course of my life Kurosh

cunning lagoon
#

Ok but rando isn't speedxrunning

#

it's modding

leaden hedge
#

you can slowrun a rando

dusky lion
#

e

#

you mean just doing a run with the randomizer mod

cunning lagoon
#

well i was gonna ask you to race me

#

but it's ok i forgive you

dusky lion
#

Kurosh you would run circles around me

leaden hedge
#

race me at deaths gambit

cunning lagoon
#

i do not have death's gambit on my steam account

#

sad, i know

leaden hedge
#

you missed out on a well made game

#

in hollow knight you need an elevator to clip through stuff

#

in deaths gambit all you need is a knife

cunning lagoon
leaden hedge
#

and you can also clip into the games equivalent of the black egg from the first town

cunning lagoon
#

oh so is any% just 5 minutes

#

19 minutes apparently

#

risky holds it GWfroggyPoggers

leaden hedge
#

ye it can go down to like 16m

#

i play on kb/m which loses like a minute

#

and the route is cancer

cunning lagoon
#

wtf why

leaden hedge
#

why does kb/m lose time?

#

or why is the route cancer

cunning lagoon
#

former

leaden hedge
#

you fall faster if your inventory is open, but only on controller
you can jump off ladders to climb faster, but only to the right on kb/m
you have to use your mouse to buy items, which involves moving the mouse back and forth, controller can just mash A ( you have to buy like 90 bombs, which takes about 30seconds on cnotroller)

rain cedar
#

Good thing none of that matters because the game isn't worth playing anyway

leaden hedge
#

whats not to love

#

you clip to the 2nd to final boss and cheese it with bombs

#

then you try to bomb the final boss

#

which has awful hitboxes that dont work

#

and you have to sexually assault her to get it to work

rain cedar
#

Isn't there like a cap to how many bombs hit her too?

#

So you have to do parries or some shit

leaden hedge
#

other way round

#

you can only parry her 3 times in the fight

#

if you could parry her you'd just do that probably, it'd save you having to do the instant kill glitch on bulwark twice and buying a bunch of bombs

#

also @cunning lagoon just look at the all bosses route, specifically mine not the WR to see how broken the game is

#

any% is stupid, all bosses is ???

#

you don't get to store dash iframes permanently in any%

cunning lagoon
#

that does sound very broken

#

is it like dgate invuln

#

or whatever its called

#

also lurien didnt hardsave me either

#

56 makes good mods

leaden hedge
#

if you do an airdash, aslong as you continue doing any other action you keep the iframes

#

you can shoot a gun for 90seconds straight

rain cedar
#

@56 fix ur shit

#

Wow mobile sucks it didn't @

cunning lagoon
#

wtf nice

rain cedar
#

The 90 seconds straight part being because of a huge design oversight

#

That they fixed later

cunning lagoon
#

not having to break thk's chains is also very nice

#

good shit sean

leaden hedge
#

they also fixed itemjumps

#

and I assume tomejumps

cunning lagoon
#

whats that

#

owo

leaden hedge
#

itemjump is drop item, jump, pickup item frame after you jump

#

and you jump like 2.5x higher than normal

#

tomejump is the same but instead of picking up an item you use a tome skill the frame after picking up an item

#

and it sends you like 3x higher instead

cunning lagoon
#

nice

leaden hedge
#

technically there shouldn't be any tome jumps because you can do the main time save for it with an itemjump, but its like 2 frame perfect inputs that you have to time with an enemies head bob so its zzz

#

but tomejump makes it free

#

oh also technically the guns are supposed to suck because they aren't supposed to scale

#

but the devs made the gun we use scale with STR intenseface

#

so its the highest dps weapon in the game

compact sedge
#

hey can I send something disgusting?

cunning lagoon
#

is it just that gun in particular?

leaden hedge
#

yeah

#

the other gun doesn't scale

cunning lagoon
leaden hedge
#

it specifically says in the description it doesn't scale

compact sedge
#

ok I won't then

leaden hedge
#

send whatever

compact sedge
leaden hedge
#

as long as its not a request to join modding-staff intenseface

compact sedge
#

oh don't worry I know that's never happening

#

if it happens before benji, simo, and this server are dead then it is only by an act of god.

leaden hedge
#

bribe them

compact sedge
#

I want to be modding staff to help this channel

#

I'm not gonna pay to help

#

that's like

#

even worse than unpaid internships

leaden hedge
#

we should be paid tbh

#

we moderate both speedrunning and modding discussion

cunning lagoon
#

maybe you just have to ask nicely ๐Ÿ˜„

compact sedge
#

I did

#

not once but twice

#

simo never said no

#

but clearly his response was no

cunning lagoon
#

maybe the key is to not care about a color because that's pretty much all the role is

#

unless you really really need access to 56's very serious posts in the modding staff channel

compact sedge
#

I mean

#

the last time I had a real conversation in this server it started with someone asking "Who's this guy"

leaden hedge
#

he said no

compact sedge
#

understandable can you tell me more or is it nda

leaden hedge
#

did he say why to you

#

he talked about it briefly like 2 lines after a meme post in staff

floral furnace
#

modding staff is literally just art staff but for modders

cunning lagoon
#

also im not benji or simo but if i ran a server and had some dude asking for a role every week

compact sedge
#

Honestly I'm actually hurt he didn't say it to my face

cunning lagoon
#

he would go straight to the "do not give role" list

compact sedge
#

@thorn comet cryla

floral furnace
#

here let me do it for you

compact sedge
#

would it be too much to ask you to tell me why KDT?

#

or what he said

floral furnace
#

Give me moderator and i give my credit card info

compact sedge
cunning lagoon
#

ok you send the info first

#

then i mod you

#

just need a picture of your credit card, the expiration date and the 3 wacky numbers on the back

#

you can do it

floral furnace
#

Thanks kuro mylajoy

cunning lagoon
#

np man

leaden hedge
cunning lagoon
#

whats this censored shit

#

leak everything

#

bitch

leaden hedge
#

that wasn't relevant

cunning lagoon
#

fair

compact sedge
#

eh my discord server was a tiny lil experiment that I deleted about 3 months later

#

it was the redwing server

#

that's the only one I've ever owned

floral furnace
#

๐Ÿค”

compact sedge
#

don't you thinking me it's true

cunning lagoon
#

i have a sneaky suspicion

#

he doesn't mean that one

floral furnace
#

no that was directed to kuro

#

no offense ๐Ÿ…ฑngle

cunning lagoon
#

no that was directed to angle

#

no offense tta๐Ÿ…ฑ๐Ÿ…ฑo

floral furnace
#

stop redirecting what im directing to you

cunning lagoon
#

no im directing my things to angle

floral furnace
#

then dont cuz by proxy the source is from me

cunning lagoon
#

no i keep the things you direct to me to myself

#

then i make some of my own and direct them to angle

floral furnace
#

i, yes

compact sedge
#

back then the only server other than here I cared about was the Sindicate

#

Which I regret everything about

#

and honestly fuck finch

cunning lagoon
#

D:

#

finch don't scroll up there are some very harmful comments directed your way ๐Ÿ˜”

compact sedge
#

it's awfully cute they called it mine tho

#

I'm almost honored

cunning lagoon
#

Ok clearly the solution is I get admin and everyone else is white

#

except for sean

#

i'll let him keep his blue

compact sedge
#

Apparently back then I had the amazing power of being able to see exactly 1 day into the future into a staff channel I'm physically incapible of seeing

#

because this message was send 1 day before simo's in modding staff

#

but honestly, by July 18th I had already given up hope of ever getting the role so I stopped giving a crap

#

I realized back then if Redwing CP1 wasn't enough there was really no hope of it ever happening

#

and to this day. It's been about 5 months, and my opinion is still if it happens before benji, simo, and this server are dead then it is only by an act of god.

leaden hedge
#

atleast you weren't permanently banned intenseface
not that I'd know anything about doing a bunch of work for a community then getting permabanned and my work "borrowed"

cunning lagoon
#

story time? ๐Ÿ‘€

compact sedge
#

I'd be highly concerned about a group of people willing to spend 10 dollars a year plus hosting to replace my website just so they can justify banning me

#

but please tell KDT

leaden hedge
#

story time? ok
4-5 years ago I spent 8ish hours a day on a site, and I'd spend about half of that time developing an extension (over about 6 months, releasing updates pretty much every day) that was used by pretty much every single user because it made the site so much better
I ran a chatbot for the site and also paid for a server to do image hosting for avatars and also saving peoples settings to their account rather than browser
I made a really shitty exhibition match that I expected to get skipped, so I said if you skip my exhib i'll add stats to my extension which was the sites main monetization method, and he permanently banned me for it, stole all the features from the bot and extension and temp banned anyone that mentioned my name or extension

#

then because all his mods said he was fucking stupid, he replaced them all

cunning lagoon
#

wtf

#

is this guy still around

leaden hedge
#

ye

floral furnace
#

head far up their ass syndrome

leaden hedge
#

you still get banned for mentioning me or my extension

#

btw

cunning lagoon
#

rofl

floral furnace
#

real shit tho, are you a bit honored by that then

cunning lagoon
#

thats messed up

floral furnace
#

like, your name is a forbidden word

#

or just rename yourself into LFY

leaden hedge
#

anything to do with me is forbidden

#

I had to submit stuff to the site under a psuedonym

cunning lagoon
#

why did you even go back there

#

i feel like getting permabanned for that should've been a big enough red flag to never go there again

floral furnace
#

Krabs Dont Trust?

leaden hedge
#

i mean there was like 20-50 people in the private chat we had, and that was the main group I talked to, and as most of them still used the site they'd talk about it a lot

#

and I had projects I was like 75% through that I needed to finish anyway

cunning lagoon
#

i see

compact sedge
#

ooh what's the extension called

#

I wanna be banned

#

(edit: from that site not here pls)

floral furnace
#

you cant spell badass without "baannedss"

leaden hedge
#

you'll only get banned if salty is online and watching chat

#

which is like pretty random

cunning lagoon
#

4 stars GWfroggyPoggers

floral furnace
#

quality extension

compact sedge
#

honestly fuck salty

floral furnace
#

yeah fuck this salty guy, whoever that guy is

leaden hedge
#

it was 5stars a long time, but he'd keep changing shit to break the extension

#

so I stopped updating it

floral furnace
#

hey just so you know, ill hate salty for you even if dont know who the fuck he is hklove

leaden hedge
#

well hes a dick anyway

#

he completely ruined the site, by releasing a mobile game which is straight p2w

#

you can just buy money in game

floral furnace
#

is it named X of Y

#

Noun of Verb

leaden hedge
#

no

#

its called waifu wars

floral furnace
cunning lagoon
#

do they bet real money on this

#

because some dude had a $50k bet

#

or is it some game currency or something

leaden hedge
#

no

#

its fake money you have a minimum of $400

cunning lagoon
#

is it like 2 cpus fighting eachother

leaden hedge
#

yes

floral furnace
#

so when are you gonna buy the IP and finally make Waifu Wars: Blood and Redemption Remastered Enhanced Game of the Year Edition

rain cedar
#

Firzen made a betting bot for this a while ago that does pretty well

leaden hedge
#

most of the top 10 were bots made by me but ran by other people after I got banned

cunning lagoon
leaden hedge
#

top1 was a bot of mine for like 2 years

rain cedar
#

Neat

trim totem
#

hard pee

leaden hedge
#

i don't think I can upload the db though, its too big

floral furnace
#

rodrigantz is my spirit animal

cunning lagoon
#

same

leaden hedge
#

also 50k isn't a lot intenseface

#

technically the biggest bet was 2.1b after I found a vulnerability that let me give people money so I gave someone max_int and they all-ined

cunning lagoon
#

lmao

leaden hedge
#

I think the biggest none glitch was like 500m though, when #1 money matched like 5 people from top 10

floral furnace
#

max int 56 is this u

cunning lagoon
#

ttacco u play rando

floral furnace
#

no

#

havent tbh

#

tho was originally planning to

cunning lagoon
#

๐Ÿ˜”

floral furnace
#

by originally i mean 7 months ago

cunning lagoon
#

that's okay :)

floral furnace
#

aww thanks ๐Ÿ˜„

cunning lagoon
#

owo

#

u going to sawcon?

runic nexus
#

how do I install the randomizer mod?

floral furnace
#

to claim the title of Lord of Ligma yes

cunning lagoon
#

great let me know how it goes

#

good luck

narrow canyon
#

Have any of you guys tried out The Pain of the Path mod?

floral furnace
#

ehem

#

Kuro?

cunning lagoon
#

i have indeed tried the the pain of the path mod

narrow canyon
#

Does it change up how the area behaves with new platforming sections?

cunning lagoon
#

it lets you do pop backwards

floral furnace
#

its literally the path of pain but backwards

narrow canyon
#

Oh I get it now with the title lol

#

Thanks guys

floral furnace
#

you start above the memesmould room then go backwards

#

yes

narrow canyon
#

One last question, are the 'Glorious Combos' and 'Exaltation' mods any good?

floral furnace
#

Glorious Combos makes you stronger the more you hit without getting hit iirc (angle pls dont end me) and Exaltation gives you the "glorified charms" which TC didnt add during the release of GM

civic hare
#

exaltation is cool

narrow canyon
#

I'll definitely check out exaltation, I was really excited for that mechanic when it was announced and was a bit bummed when it got cut. I imagine it was difficult to balance into the game or something along those lines

floral furnace
#

btw the charms added by exaltation arent something like official tc stuff that was unreleased inside the files, but rather the stats were made by xhuis himself, other than that i havent tried it personally but receptive for it is great nonetheless, so yeah try it

cunning lagoon
#

btw the charms added by exaltation arent something like official tc stuff that was unreleased inside the files, but rather the stats were made by xhuis himself, other than that i havent tried it personally but receptive for it is great nonetheless, so yeah try it

narrow canyon
#

lol

floral furnace
#

kuro i thought you were over this

cunning lagoon
#

it back bby

floral furnace
#

smh

compact sedge
#

ttacco I have to ask

floral furnace
#

hmm?

compact sedge
#

well 2 things but I'll save my non modding question for a different channel. maybe meme or something

#

but

#

on the topic of mods

#

how's hollow point coming and what are your plans for it

floral furnace
#

i havent finished it at all

#

school work

compact sedge
#

fair

#

same

floral furnace
#

i have to start deving our app next sem lmao, but ive REALLY been itching to start getting back to it in like, during christmas break

#

other than that art is my main enemy ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

compact sedge
#

well best of luck

cunning lagoon
#

ty

floral furnace
#

no problem kuro

cunning lagoon
#

๐Ÿ˜œ

solemn rivet
#

sean pings me to fix the installer

#

I have no idea how to

#

ignores

#

Also, I don't have access to my pc for two more days, so there's that

floral furnace
#

change identity and live in another country, if sean tracks you down just say "Yes i am of no know of this "Gradow" person you speak of yes"

solemn rivet
#

"me no habla c#"

#

Is this correct dlk?

cunning lagoon
#

yes that is completely accurate

solemn rivet
#

I knew that, was just testing you

floral furnace
#

Hornet is hard are you kidding me? when have you seen a boss with such slowness and sluggishness?

cunning lagoon
#

gradow u play rando

#

nvm you just said you are nmot at your computer

floral furnace
#

play mods on switch

cunning lagoon
#

(this is ACTUALLY TRUE lol)

solemn rivet
#

Yeah, I'm currently having an out-of-body experience ngl

cunning lagoon
#

did you take The Drugs

solemn rivet
#

The Hornet Stung Me With Her Sharp Needle daddy

cunning lagoon
#

Oh Jesus not the needle

solemn rivet
#

Never heard of him, but have you heard of Jesus Christ our lord and savior

weak lodge
#

who

rain cedar
compact sedge
#

both of you need to stop abusing corner cases

#

well actually only one of you needs to stop

#

the other will be fixed by the first one not doing it

rain cedar
#

no

#

UUMUU is a const

young walrus
#

So..... is it safe to use?

rain cedar
#

Yeah I was out of date

#

I guess the null check somehow gets completely optimized out if there's an or instead of and

#

Because that's all he changed there

weak lodge
#

@ 56#1363 explain what a vector does again thanks

leaden hedge
#

vectorizes

weak lodge
#

hmmm

leaden hedge
#

a vector is just 2 or more floats in one variable

weak lodge
#

thank

vapid patrol
#

Guys where can I get link to latest version of randomizer

#

Thx

rain cedar
#

I just want to take a moment to say that pattern matching on the is keywords is god

copper nacelle
#

agreed

vapid patrol
mortal trout
#

a

trim totem
#

what

mortal trout
#

idk

vapid patrol
#

I used focus

#

To heal before battle with hardest boss in the game

mortal trout
#

imagine playing redwing

vapid patrol
#

So many modes to dive into

#

So much experience I could get from it

#

And everything broke when I oneshoted Brooding Mawleck with Blackmoth and Redwing on

mortal trout
#

infinite grimm

vapid patrol
#

I can't beat even regular grimm

#

NKG*

mortal trout
#

sad

vapid patrol
#

Okay

#

I have an idea

#

Install every randomizer mode, along with lightbringer

#

And turn on The world Revolving playlist

mortal trout
#

very cool!

vapid patrol
#

Eh, i'll just turn everything on

rain cedar
#

The middle column is stuff you have to do before you can enter black egg so that's gonna take a bit

young walrus
#

Uh..... You probably don't want all the skips on

#

Especially if beating nkg is an issue

#

I'd use the easy preset

vapid patrol
#

New Pure Vessel, Lmao

young walrus
#

You really gonna post screenshots every 5 minutes?

mortal trout
#

hmm

vapid patrol
#

Yeah, why not

#

Is it bad

mortal trout
weak lodge
#

umm lets see

karmic bolt
#

Hey guys, I've installed Debug Mod and now want to unbind some functions, which key should i press?

rain cedar
#

You can't, that's not implemented

#

If you've completely fucked yourself by binding something like kill self to left click you can delete the config file

#

%appdata%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\DebugMod.GlobalSetting.json

#

Or something like that

#

I'm not 100% on the file name

karmic bolt
#

Ok, thank you

rain cedar
#

Yeah, I know

#

I just generally assume most things are beyond the abilities of users

cunning lagoon
hollow pier
#

that is indeed fucked up

mortal trout
#

that makes me want to die

ornate rivet
#

someone is recommending grubsong thinkgrub

#

wtf someone help
_control.GetAction<ActivateGameObject>("Throw", 5).activate = false;
it keeps giving me a null reference error but I know both hornet and her fsm which I am editing are not null

#

wait

#

maybe nvm

#

yea ok it was because I had inserted another action before that so all the indices were messed up

cunning lagoon
#

Pete wanna do more rando

#

?

ornate rivet
#

no

cunning lagoon
#

Shut up

cunning lagoon
#

guess ill go fuck myself then

dawn oxide
#

so i guess i want to do level building stuff
how would i start

rain cedar
#

You wait for nes to finish his level editor

dawn oxide
#

oh
how long will that take
i had no idea that was in development because i thought it was impossible because of the games art

rain cedar
#

It's not impossible it's just really tedious without tools

dawn oxide
#

very nice

dark wigeon
#

I'll be working on it over the weekend. I don't have a good time frame because it all depends on how unity wants to handle what I'm doing. For limited support (moving/deleting in existing maps) should be done in about one week. Technically it supports new levels too but you'd have to manually set those up (ie transitions, map tiles).

rain cedar
#

What about copy/paste of stuff in existing scenes?

dark wigeon
#

Well right now it's packing what you build in unity into a bundle then tricking unity into loading it like a scene. For existing maps it diffs the changes then modifies the level and loads it as a new level

rain cedar
#

Interesting

dark wigeon
#

I guess you could make a copy but I'd have to add that as a new level type since it only really supports modification and new levels made in the editor

rain cedar
#

Sounds like it would be a bit slow for minor changes

#

No big deal, still awesome

dark wigeon
#

It's faster than you'd think

ornate rivet
#

@cunning lagoon and @solemn basin and anyone else who has nothing better to do, please test my mod
Fixes:
Orbs are slower
Extra needle is gone
Bee numbers are reduced to 3
hornet is nice and waits 0.35 second pause between each attack
shield + needle throw combo should no longer happen
hornet faces the player when shooting bats in p3 now
Bad stuff:
Statue bug still exists
Transition between p2 and p3 still sucks
Main menu screen still glitches

https://github.com/SalehAce1/Daughter-of-Hallownest

mortal trout
#

nice

#

ill try it

ornate rivet
#

yay

solemn basin
#

I will do it soon.

ornate rivet
#

also uhhh, ping me if you all have feedback because I am going to do other work and probably wont fix anything until tomorrow

solemn basin
#

Okay, will PM if anything sticks out. Thanks!

cunning lagoon
#

sweet

#

ill check it out tomorrow or later

#

also for the p2 to p3 thing i think you can just mash dash to not get hit

#

@solemn basin

#

only tried it once but it worked

ornate rivet
#

does anyone know what happens if you instantiate the knight?

solemn basin
#

@cunning lagoon I found using descending dark as the freeze ends lets you avoid it consistently. Provided you have soul to cast it. Generally found P2 to be a good place to build as much soul as possible.

cunning lagoon
#

o thats also a good idea

#

free damage too

solemn basin
#

Yeah.

#

P3 I found staying at the walls and letting Hornet come to you and then pogo to build soul or use DD let me be relatively safe.

#

Like if she dives pogo her, if she dashes pogo then shade dash through the fire stream.

cunning lagoon
#

jfc

#

killing vk when he screams also softlocks you

copper nacelle
#

@fair rampart vengefly king

cunning lagoon
#

vollow knight

#

how did your quiz go 56

copper nacelle
#

i got sick and didn't go to school and then i slept through the entire day

cunning lagoon
#

so that means we can do a rando race now

#

cool

floral furnace
#

thats more sleep than what you got the entire week

copper nacelle
#

you're not wrong

hazy sentinel
#

got sick right before a quiz huh

#

likely story

copper nacelle
#

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

solemn basin
#

Sounds legit.

hollow pier
#

sorry friday is the one day i leave the house

#

any rando

cunning lagoon
#

unbeliavable

#

wait

#

is that spelled right

hollow pier
#

๐Ÿค”

cunning lagoon
#

its unbelievable right

hollow pier
#

he's done it

cunning lagoon
#

pog

hazy sentinel
#

increรญble

cunning lagoon
#

yo we can do like some 2v2 shit

hollow pier
#

sorry you mean 2v2 then 56 leaves

cunning lagoon
#

๐Ÿ˜”

hollow pier
#

actually 56 not showing up is more likely

cunning lagoon
#

i'll take that as a no

#

it's ok i can single-handedly kick pete's ass

#

did i spell that right

hollow pier
#

any 1v1v1

cunning lagoon
#

im down for anything

rain cedar
#

You play a lot of rando so you get to be the guinea pig

#

If you haven't started already yet @cunning lagoon

hollow pier
#

can't wait to crash

cunning lagoon
#

sure

rain cedar
#

Explosion pogo should work

#

And the crystals before ddark

hollow pier
young walrus
#

oh shit

cunning lagoon
#

yo thats sick

unborn flicker
cunning lagoon
#

@copper nacelle exist

unborn flicker
#

That means the shade skip there will never be required now, so that's nice too

rain cedar
#

Yeah it's a pretty garbage shade skip

copper nacelle
#

@cunning lagoon no

cunning lagoon
#

wtf

#

bitch

rain cedar
#

He has to study

#

Or something

unborn flicker
#

You still up for a race, Mick?

cunning lagoon
#

i won't forgive this

#

any verulean

young walrus
#

yeah

#

I'm boozin a bit tho. so.... maybe combine rooms, pete and kuro?