#archived-modding-development
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although salubra overcharm still doesn't recalc properly
wtf
Ok but I literally just call TC code https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.RandomizerMod/blob/master/RandomizerMod2.0/RandomizerMod.cs#L218
implying TC code works
Same
ok so I know why it doesnt work now
why
the if statement that changes that bool doesn't work
Pete im in bedbso i Cant watg
but idk why that if doesnt work
Nice
Have fun
so
I mean you could paste it
and get help on modding in the channel called #archived-modding-development
stay woke
It's just this
see my code is so bad I feel embarrassed about pasting it
Maybe there's some fsm event I need too
every variable has a dungo name
because logs are nice
Does it actually use charmSlotsFilled
in like the calculate notches used thing
it does
Wtf
Why is this a problem?
urite
Does debug use an event
cause its overcharmed thing still works last I checked
stay woke
Maybe recalculate notches used?
Does it need canOvercharm maybe idk
is the canOvercharm because it makes it work or because it makes sense to enable it
I don't remember
could try it idk
In a bit
does the charm effects activate when you equip them on the menu or when you leave the bench? no wait i think it does fuck i havent played this game in a month, i forgot already
I think it's when you close the charms menu but I can't remember either
Ammm, sorry, i put the Hp bar mod and now i can't quit the full screen
The overcharm recalculating thing works
But all the charm stuff is hooked on charm update so you don't get the new notch/de-overcharm instantly
I think that's all it was
I can make it check instantly, though
hey I quit modding for a whole month in the meanwhile has anyone managed to while I was doing other things, create arbitrary dialogue boxes?
and by doing other things I totally don't mean writing 15k words of fanfiction.
I love dialog string shitposting
holy shit never noticed that
is that a randomizer change\
hey i managed to beat most of the game and pan 1-2 with vsync on 
sounds (slur) knightmere
Alright I finished Daughter of Hallownest for real now
Can someone please check for bugs or recommendations ( @cunning lagoon )?
Thank you in advance
Here is the code and .dll file: https://github.com/SalehAce1/Daughter-of-Hallownest
copy paste lol
sorry for double ping Kurosh
1 ghost ping 
sorry for double cdash kurosh
@ornate rivet so how doeth thou manually install a mod
just put the .dll file in the Mods folder
kk
inb4 where is mod folder
if there is no mods folder then install the modding api with the installer
the mod folder is easily acessable by pressing start and write "mods"
are you sure that's the correct mods folder
hmmmmm
make sure the path is like this
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods
if you use steam
who doesnt 🤔
Downloads\Hollow Knight Pirated\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\ohanerrormessage
Sorry knightmere you can only install mods if you got all the achievements + hornet dlc achievos
gottem
you sure?
nice edit
yeah give me a cracked copy of hornet dlc thanks
ty
goddamn this first boss is amazing, saleh they literally ripped of your boss for hornet dlc
its basically a quirrel but with flamethrowers woah
ttacco i bet you curbstomped thk fight in the beginning
wait that was a boss lmao
na tiktik level boss
does dlk just wake up when someone mentions his failed cdashes
hornet dlc leak is the same thing as pale prince.dll 😔
where's the originality ?!
who ever said pale prince wasn't hornet dlc in disguise
makes you think
no you think for once kthx how could you not see the implications of hornet dlc in that shitty hollow knight game
tHeRe iS a hOrnEt chARActer
would we be able to make a multiplayer mode if hornet dlc comes out (since there will be 2 playable characters)?

dmmmm
netowrking rely hard
i think
plus lots of constraints tho, like how do you determine how ot change the level transition
that or you can preload the entire map and lag like a bitch after waiting for a 30 minute loading screen 
kongregate 
hmmmmmm
That's what's supposed to happen
I am too lazy to make the scenes not be visible when they load
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🅱L🅱urosh
lore is a top tier channel
I mean does it matter?
you are a top tier person 😃
does the mod work?
yes
good that's all that matters
weird, I can still interact with it when I die
i died more than once
it only break this time
broke
i killed fc and it works now
hmm I am not sure why that happens since I dont change anything related to that
¯_(ツ)_/¯
someone else is testing it and they aren't getting this either
do you have any other mod installed?
debug
I am using debug too so that's not it
message
yea I am fixing that
hornet cheating
ok I made it so that she does her idle animation when that happens
but I still dont know why the statue stops working
I had the dramatic pause dive death too. Hornet should have just paused things to win. 😄
ddark lol
I tested each attack separately but not all of them together so that's probably why
besides slowing down orbs what else should I change
You're removing the lone needle with P2/P3?
but idk
yea
stop cheating
i dont even know whats going on
saleh,those attacks DoNT fIT wiTh ThE lORe
PV's attack is ok?
idk gimme a while
ok
keep in mind i still dont know how to dodge half this shit
well neither do I so
but the bees just spawn there while you are dodging other things and just hit you
did you just throw a bunch of boss projectiles in
yes
Why does it dream warp when you load in?
yea thats cool
yeah but it doesnt fit with the lore so it's bad
But if HK has no lore, anything goes.
ok definitely just
really tune down the bees
or remove them
or something
and i think giving her a small cooldown or whatever
after each attack
would make it fginew
ok
you know how absrad just kinda does nothing after each attack for a few seconds
same thing but not a few seconds because thats too long for this boss lol
and tune down the tracking on the orbs a little bit because they can hit you when you go through them
kuro pretty sure ss is better than ddark for swarrior
dhits are not too reliable without shaman stone
how does me missing a ddark prove that it's worse than shade soul
can't you dhit semi consistently with base vs
name
lol
no it was good
do i even want the context
xXxXD_L_K_u_r_o_s_hXxXx will live on
sometimes you just pin him against the wall and he doesn't do anything
that is illegal
other times he pulls a gorb and teleports away from you at every opportunity he has 
what is this meme screen shake with rando
106
i wanna do 106 but my computer melts 
do i just have no idea how godhome works or does rando somehow break it
i assume this is not correct
Hollow Knight by Bethesda
i literally fell down from the room above
what the fuck
when i go into the upwards transition
it transitions me to the bottom of the same room
i can't leave
qol godhome hardlock lol
😔
what the hell
hornet
Man, Chinese HK is pretty weird.
是
where you live
fellas what's a good colour for nohboard key pressed
currently using cyan
i lied it's magenta
black
How does this even happen? I thought it might be Pantheon Randomizer, but you don't have that

@rain cedar Dash Slash pick up didnt appear on my rando seed (picked up Dash Slash before visiting Oro)
it has been done
he has done it
Let's see this masterfully fucked up Godhome
you think 5 lifeblood is enough to facetank markoth
Depends how good you are at not falling into the pit
how much health does he have
wiki 
ofc the first thing i read is wrong
he has 250 health with nail0
not 200
Oh, then 650
so he has 650 if the wiki is to be trusted
doesn't sound feasible
could just facetank p2
markoth is where the biggest timesave is atm
markoth and absrad
processing
95% typical
https://youtu.be/SfAustqgc98 interesting things are at 2:41
nice resolution
thanks
i would actually die to mmc if i did ab

also the fk stagger at 5:20 is utter bullshit
same
Did godhome just loop?
yes sir
lööps
oh should i noclip past the godseeker part and keep going
probably
do i stream
im gonna do runs now
Gruz Mother is normal
oh i see why you said you'd die to mmc
yes
i know as much as you do sir nathan
Is it the version on the drive?
yes
do i do p5 or p4
gorb is a black screen
i wanna do p5 but my p4 time needs improvements
so im doing p4 thanks for your input
At least you have infinite healing
wtf there are like 3 soul masters
marmu is interesting
So i just realized Xero has been putting nt rta in my runa himself
Runs
I thought it wasnt necessary?
But turns out im making him do extra work 

good lord what is uumuu
Cant be worse than any% nmg uumuu
IDK, could be 2 bosses at the same time for all I know
Kill All?
Best boss gone 
the game was endlessly respawning me into spikes while he spawned
Oh, you deleted him?
Oh that is still not fixed?
we do however get this
It looked like you could reach it in the vid
Were you able to hit Sly at all?
Because if so, you could debug your Nail dmg super high and 1 shot him
15 minutes is considered long?
I mean, you didn't even make it to Lost Child, so no minors
nice nice
BTW, at first I read that as "minorities"
the plot thickens
and now i have junk pit and godhome overlayed
What the WTF the Fuck
(((btw running godhome ils is nothing but a big rngfest)))
this is quite interesting
very nice
good news we can do the panths in junkhome
nutty
we have made it
btw nathan do you know why traitor lord and the infected mantis warriors sometimes just walk really quickly
ANd how to avoid it
hmm
you know i think i know why that happens
before attacking they usually walk backwards and then attack
gj on the AB

so maybe whats happening is them doing the backwards walk but in the wrong direction
resulting in very fair and avoidable damage
and thanks knightmere
i killed ar
that was fast
no i kill her normally
you basically fight her in hog
then oob way up to where he is
and kill her
ah yes
now hog is everywhere
just what i wanted
Expert coding
hmm
hes waiting for you
Hollow Knight doesn't feel so good
It's like the game isn't unloading
my player does not exist
how fun
ah
i have hardlocked
at least i have cg2 with me
hardlocked!?
https://youtu.be/DaX9wtowNnE here is p5 until sly good meme
not just softlock
hardlock
lost control
as in can't do anything
force pause didn't even work
it seems that p4 is a hardlock every time
Sean must done something that affected level loading/unloading
That is the only thing I can think of
Like when he was trying to get the gotSlyCharm bool to set properly on level load
there is just random geometry everywhere
but he took an oddly long time to load
noob stop holding jump lol
nldg*
it would seem that all panths are hardlocks
like no eyes is already fucking enough rng
p5 is the only safe one
i dont need 2 floaty jumps in a row
wtf Soul Warrior
the arena walls and floor are there
but the arena itself is just black
pfft
Tiso flipped upsidedown
that's great
he's also in the next scene
He's ascending beyond this mortal realm
I wonder if the bench in Xero's fight works
everything fixes on quitout btw
This has to be a level unloading issue
Tiso carried into the next fight
the bench into Xero
Also, nice windows notification in Xero's battle
And now it's Soul Master both phase at once, in a dark Crystal Guardian arena
Oblobbles completely normal except for screenshake, presumably from Soul Master
YOU ASSUME TOO MANY THINGS NATHAN
@cunning lagoon btw
Fighting Sheo in the floor, while Galien's scythe slowly scoots acrossed the top of the screen: amazing
no
No Eyes' attack is a castelvania reference
fucking medusa heads
it's based on a notoriously annoying enemy
when they hit you you get frozen in place
Glad that doesn't happen
Collector got a skylight
tf is with the camera in the Grimm fight?
And why don't you have your Windows notifs on silent?
idk
When people complain about not being able to see Uumuu's lightning:
it could have been much worse
finna uummuu requires speed buff
winged nosk and normal nosk's rooms need to be darker and give them more attacks kthx
also less spit rng tyvm
ceiling attacks arnt fun
this tbh
so the thing with that attack
i think it's that it becomes wider when it hits the ground
so even though you are standing between 2 spits and you are safe
you are not safe anymore when they hit the ground
winged nosk makes me want to die
i think the other spit attack is even more unfair
if he goes offscreen and spits it you jsut can't see the blobs
they are just offscreen
You can jump and then dash through the spit to land on a safe spot
yeah that's what i started doing
so i'm juust gonna start shade cloaking through everything
because trying to stand in a safe spot is not reliable
i dont like complaining about winged nosk because hes piss easy but
it is what it is
The flight pattern for his dive attack is annoying
erm, so did anyone remember how to load an image in docker?
getting real tired of this bullshit game really quickly
cow poop
this man right here dispenses the cubes
oof
i love being 20 seconds ahead at no eyes and losing literally my whole lead to rng 😄
@compact sedge Would you know where the authentication token for a discord bot is located?
on your bot page
the thing is that I don't have access to the bot page as I didn't make Zote
Conrad did
so I guess I need the token to login
I do know that the token is also located somewhere in the files for the bot
that I do have
should be in the config file
you can probably just do
print(token()) anywhere in __main__.py
actually nevermind, I found it in inf.py
now how would I load the bot without conrads account...
I'm trying to change the avatar of the bot and just thought that it would be easiest to do it from the developer portal
but I guess not
i died to his hitbox getting bigger after unstaggering 😄
lol noob
nldg*
This is a Hollow Knight mod by Hir Ngolwe to make the Hornet Sentinel fight slightly more difficult. This one is a lot of fun. The first two phases are what ...
So finished DoH, but I got lucky and didn't get bees.
Plus DD is the answer to everything.
yo nice
Kurosh, what charms were you running with it?
hmmmm
strength qs shaman stone and either twister or ln
Because I felt spell build for DD and Sharp Shadow really worked well. But was curious what others used. I'd like to retry with just the nail.
so how hard would it have fucking been to make no eyes teleport on a timer
instead of whenever the fuck she wants to
like really
0 effort
just make her teleport every 7 or 8 seconds
No Eyes exists to piss everyone off.
not a fucking random chance whenever she takes damage
there's just no reason to deliberately make her like that
they just decided they wanted to make her garbage to fight
oh you wanted to shriek the boss well you are out of luck because she's going to teleport after the first hit
fucking garbage ass design
Yeah. Hate using shriek against her because it's so RNG. Usually just shade soul.
Kurosh sounds like a person that would enjoy 100% Orange Juice
The game not orange juice the liquid
ah did i forget to mention failed champ rocks rng
or traitor lord empty walk unavoidable damage rng
or white defender burrow rng
orange juice tastes good
@copper nacelle yo what makes no eyes teleport
you looked intro this a long time ago didnt you
yes
if you stay close to traitor lord he doesn't idly walk into you
Then why do you have 700 hours into it
he definitely does
it's damage response
10/10
masterpiece
what does 0.65 0.35 mean
35% chance of teleporting after each hit?
yes
wdym
56 why does fsmviewer die when i do anything
probably
yeah she fills the arena with ghosts when shes almost dead
@hollow pier do you have the latest one
well no eyes definitely went up a few tiers in the cancer list
who really knows
it's the one in pins
then yes
No Eyes wasn't already near the top of the cancer list?
Do you have more than one open?
she was pretty high
no
now she's even higher
getting two viruses 
i really wonder what goes through their heads when they make bosses like this
I used to get it a ton but this version fixed it for me
56, how do you explain Ptkr's experience in Glitchome?
no
open scene list
Does it crash on open resources.assets as well
yes it does good sir
if you go to open file and open resources.assets from that does it crash
oh 1221
🤔
that's the problem
it does something 
i think im gonna stop playing this stupid game after i get a decent p4 time
getting tired
kurosh speedrun rain world
@fast thicket Did you have 800 geo?
run icono
ill run literally anything other than this garbage
only rng in icono is turtles and bosses i think
sean did you update rando more
Nothing that I've uploaded yet
I have basically no free time this entire week but then the quarter is over
Glitchome is a good meme mod, even tho it was created unintentionally
did you put the room dupe fix on the drive
Yeah
help i zoomed out too far and now i'm nowhere
zoom out further
as you wish
No limit on FSM Viewer zoom
does anyone know how to make particles
no you can't just create matter
UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate(Universe.Matter);
Don't you know the law of equivalent exchange?
nice dude
the one run that makes it past no eyes dies to a floaty jump
wow this game is so stupid
if you were subbed to pewdiepie you'd know that 
kinda funny how the game used to be a 10/10 for me until i started speedrunning ity
now its a 2/10 at most

the only reason its not a 0/10 is because that number is reserved for jrpg and games where none of what you do matters
which kinda fits for hk tbh 
should i start speedrunning it at all
no
unless you want to hate the game
in which case yes
but really
its really not fun at all
all glitches is fun
would a sub 40 any% nmg run make me hate the game
well i guess ill run it but not seriously at all
run all glitches you fool
pokemon is a jrpg
yes
yes, technically
running pokemon 
because this shit is pissing me off
its really beyond retarded
35% chance for no eyes to teleport after each hit btw xd 
have you tried
Yeah, Flukenest is so bad on No Eyes
not running the game
even w/out nerf
not much to do in the game tbh
flukenest doesn't trigger her teleports
It does
no
Try it
i do it literally every 106 run
do you also die to baldur shell i hear wr does that
Everytime I try it, she teleports instantly before all the flukes hit
every 106 run that doesn't die to soul twister telefrags or soul warrior softlocks, that is ^^
that's just her random chance of teleporting
nothing to do with fluke
I have never had all of them hit
fluke doesn't trigger parries, contribute to staggers or anything like that
fluke doesn't break collector
ok tis down to 1/10
will it get to 0/10 today
lets find out
all binds ils was a mistake
ah now you see
I'm going to have to arrest you Kurosh
shut up idiot
pokemon is pretty bad
go speedrun pokemon and tell me it's not a 0/10
play a pokemon fan game
Pokemon is absolutely garbage
But it's not the only JRPG series in existence
big brain
go speedrun ff games and tell me it's not a 0/10
why are you speedrunning if you hate running
i hate running bad games
nothing wrong with ff games 🤔
why do you exist if you hate existing
kdt im talking about speedrunning specifically
not about the games as a casual experience
ye nothing wrong with them
x
whats wrong with an 8hr run with rng encounters that waste a bunch of time
yes i am indeed salty that i can no longer enjoy this game that i used to love because turns out 90% of it is garbage
most of them are actually fine though
run payday 2
lesson learned: games are fun as long as you play them for fun
payday 2 fits the 0/10
payday 2 achievements left
payday 2 achievements left fits the 2/10
Why would you even play something you don't enjoy? I mean the sole purpose of games is to entertain.
you'll usually get a pretty standard amount of encounters, and pretty much any other time loss / gain will be menu'ing and not being a monkey 🤔
because now i have a fucking 12:51 p4 all binds submitted and my sob is 1:30 lower than that
and i have to fix it
but i can't because it's all rng
But like do you get some kind of enjoyment from trying?
Or is the reward of possible succes enough to motivate you?
i just can't stand having a bad time
insert MEGALOVANIA here
Then why not do something else?
i really only get pissed off when it's not my fault
You're starting to sound like #hk-discussion
if i lose a run to making a mistake i just accept that i made a mistake and that i can improve it on my next one
RNG!!!! REEEEE
ok but that's literally what speedrunning a pantheon is
let me give you an example
cg2 is the first boss
when the fight starts he can either empty hop around the arena, shoot the beam out of his hand or do the other beam attack
iedally you want the 2nd one to stand besides him and shriek him
if he does the 3rd one its fine you can ddark and do some damage
but there's nothing you can do to avoid him from just jumping around 2 or 3 times in a row
which could waste like 4 or 5 seconds
this is 4 or 5 seconds in a 25 second segment
and don't get me started on no eyes
i really shouldn't have to explain why speedrunning a pantheon is nothing but rng
Yeah, but notice that it's not a problem at all when you're not trying to speedrun. Maybe whatever you're doing just doesn't fit for speedrunning?
but it looks like i do 🤔
I mean rng like that really throws off any results
damn maybe that's why i said that the game used to be a 10/10 for me
until i started speedrunning it
but i mean there are many other things that not only affect speedrunners
that you start to notice when you do the same shit a thousand times
Maybe you're not meant to do the same shit a thousand times?
off the top of my head i can think of traitor lord just literally walking into you
like that shit could cost you s teel soul run
I mean the game is designed for a first playthrough
and there's nothing you can do to avoid it
him and the infected mantis can just decide to do that
empty hops are a terrible design choice and one third of the bosses in the game can do it
bosses being able to parry spells is also very questionable design
If you start to dig deep enough you can find flaws like this in EVERY single game there is.
it doesn't even make sense
And do you expect the game devs to do something about it?
nah
why would hornet be able to parry a scream
not every game
Why would they? They designed the game for a normal playthrough.
Okay maybe not like tetris but come on
you may not notice this things on a normal playthrough
but they happen
if lost kin randomly jumps on you on your first playthrough you may be like "damn i fucked up there"
but you really didn't
you just got fucked
and you don't know it
I'd honestly say that pretty much everyone would say "hey that was fucking bullshit"
oh actually i have a very good example for this
soul twisters
i've seen many threads of people complaining about them
and most of the responses they get are "get good"
but they really can't get good
twisters just straight teleport on top of you
straight up
yep, that is bullshit can't deny it
and you are telling me that that doesn't affect casual players?
yes i know
the game is filled with this
you know frogs?
loodles?
the ones that randomly jump and there's no way to predict them?
it does and I've seen people complain about it countles times
and I think that it should be fixed
anyway i could keep going with the list
never noticed anything wrong about cg2 though
there are a billion things wrong with this game
kurosh maybe stop running or take a break?
the devs dont make the game with the mind set of, hmmm, how can I make this game as speedrunner friendly as possible
you can always come back another time
you only notice these when you start doing it over and over but it exists and it happens very often
saleh i literally just explained how this has nothing to do with speedrunning
i mentioned loodles and twisters
both of which are very badly designed enemies that affect everyone
implying they tested anything beyond making sure it does the correct thing most of the time 🤔
its not like you can get bosses stuck in the ground by hitting them on the correct frame
ah yeah that too
dont get me started on that rofl
or the dnail softlock
or the hornet softlock (is this one fixed? im not sure)
but hey
they had to patch out menu dropping
well uhh, im definitely turned off from speedrunning this game now
priorities
Hm, you're right. Hollow knight is after all fucking shit. All the countless hours I've enjoyed it have been a lie. At least truly I see.
?
he appears to be mocking you
stuff can be enjoyable to play and still shit to actually play
I mean that yes these are problems but I don't think they make the game a 2/10...
but isn't "stuff can be enjoyable to play" literally the main goal of a video game?
they're literally designed to be entertaining
like this is a legit question
nothing else.
do you want me to make a compilation
because it could take me a while there are many things i can't think of off the top of my head atm
Yeah go ahead and make a compilation if it makes you feel any better
i mean stuff can be enjoyable at a surface level, but the game can actually be bad 🤔
^
there are so many little things
and they all pile up on top of eachother
and it gets fucking tiring
you know elder baldurs?
they have a 50% chance of spitting a little baldur
like
like what?
that sounds boring
i told graig to buff the range of attacks with FotF to make doing spitless free
ore whatever number you pick
but instead they decided to make it a 50% chance and call it
ther
we
we
e*
is that a problem?
yes
making spitless "free" would be win / win
because there's no reason for it to be like that
fun devout backing up immediately 🙂
Or well actually you could have bad luck and have it never throw a baldur at you
it's possible
Who would actually count the spits if they weren't running?
you wouldn't count the spits
but you'd be there doing nothing for like
half a minute
when there's no reason for that to be the case
holy shit no one would even notice it other than think "wow this is taking forerver" and then immediately forget it after
and you can say why should the devs make the game more enjoyable to run,
its not like speedrunners basically do 24/7 bug testing all the time, and find a bunch of edge cases for free
the least you can do is make the close hitbox a little smaller so spitless is viable
so do you think there's nothing wrong with it being a 50% chance for no reason
instead of it being guaranteed after 3 or 4 spits
what'd be the downside of the latter option
having rng does not make a game bad.
it only hinders runners
Rng is a pretty common thing in most video games
rng is kinda bad game design
i think there's 2 kinds of rng
and it's actually a part in them
there's the good rng, the one you can react to and play around
it's really not when you're talking about casual playing
rng is only a problem to runners
like, say, the zombies being in slightly different positions each run
everyone else has grown customed to rng
and then there's bad rng, like baldur spits
where you just get screwed and there's nothing you can do
Oh, Baldur rng would be bad for speedruns huh?
so no, there's nothing wrong with there being some amount of variation and rng in the game
but that's not the only rng the game has
nldg is fun again now that i don't die to dark rooms
the game can decide to screw you over whenever it wants to, and that's my issue with it
well uhh, ive definitely been discouraged from running this game at all
There should be a limit on how many times a Baldur can spit without spawning stuff
