#archived-modding-development

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cunning lagoon
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good name imo

dusky lion
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noelle

fair rampart
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It's a really common name around here

silk jetty
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nathan is a pretty nice name

dusky lion
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how do you think i feel

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there are 4 other people in my CS class with the same name as me

compact sedge
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nathan drake

fair rampart
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In one of my highschool classes there were 5 other Nathans

dusky lion
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well shit

silk jetty
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you can pretty easily figure out my name by looking at my actual username

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not my nick

cunning lagoon
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40

dusky lion
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Adrian

silk jetty
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ye

dusky lion
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you fight false, lucifer, last name

silk jetty
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yep

dusky lion
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raenhelm car

fair rampart
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Alright, how do I add to drive?

copper nacelle
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pm someone green your email

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they add you

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and you do modlinks + folder + zip

weak lodge
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most preferably 56

dusky lion
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pm them the 12 digits on your credit card the 3 numbers on the back and the expiration date

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and a reminder to say dm and not pm

weak lodge
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they need your help

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private message

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direct message

dusky lion
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instant message

weak lodge
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uwot

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im

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im scenic

dusky lion
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understandable

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this game made in game maker studio

silk jetty
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hi scenic, I'm scenic

fair rampart
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It's on the drive now

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Does it automatically get added to the installer, or do you have to manually edit the modlinks

copper nacelle
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modlinks

fair rampart
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Uhh how?

copper nacelle
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copy-paste another one and change the stuff

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You need to change name, file name, and shasum

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also link

fair rampart
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I don't understand this format

copper nacelle
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it's xml

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    <ModLink>
            <Name>RNG</Name><!-- API MOD -->
            <Files>
                <File>
                    <Name>why.dll</Name>
                    <SHA1>2e9ccf8c3f40a3f8a28c48fcedcc083f0acaf1b8</SHA1>
                </File>
            </Files>
            <Link><![CDATA[https://drive.google.com/uc?export=downloads&id=1Su68ndGG-YLVTJuCVwaMdI9B_nHkK6c5]]></Link>
            <DefaultInstallPath>/</DefaultInstallPath>
            <WritesOverAssembly>false</WritesOverAssembly>
            <Dependencies>
                <string>Modding API</string>
            </Dependencies>
        </ModLink>
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You change both of <Name> and <Link>

fair rampart
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Oh I get now

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wait where do I get the link I need to use

ornate rivet
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google drive share link

copper nacelle
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^

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But don't put that link in

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You just get the id of off that

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And replace the id in the original link

fair rampart
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            <Name>CharmOverhaul</Name><!-- API MOD -->
            <Files>
                <File>
                    <Name>BetterCharms.dll</Name>
                    <SHA1>51b53e821f7a1b992be4b92aeb433cc3490593ad</SHA1>
                </File>
            </Files>
            <Link><![CDATA[https://drive.google.com/uc?export=downloads&id=1o875EXE0L5-X0BAx2BjqgyG0qWsX6shY]]></Link>
            <DefaultInstallPath>/</DefaultInstallPath>
            <WritesOverAssembly>false</WritesOverAssembly>
            <Dependencies>
                <string>Modding API</string>
            </Dependencies>
        </ModLink>```
compact sedge
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name: RNG

cunning lagoon
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any imksushi drama

fair rampart
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you saw nothing

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do I need to change the <SHA>?

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or just <Name> and <Link>?

copper nacelle
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Yes

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change the shasum

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If you don't have git bash or mingw or cygwin you can just google sha1sum

fair rampart
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IDGI

copper nacelle
fair rampart
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I think I did it right

cunning lagoon
fair rampart
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Um

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problem

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Everytime I open modinstaller it say CharmOverhaul is outdated

cunning lagoon
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must be the sha1sum

copper nacelle
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You have the wrong shasum

fair rampart
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what?

copper nacelle
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ur shasum bad

fair rampart
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but I used your shasum view thingy

copper nacelle
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then it's garbage

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wait but it's not

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Are you sure you shasum'd the dll

fair rampart
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Oh

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oops

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I shasumed the zip

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here's the CORRECT shas e38e918149cdf7b4a7f5e81cfb5c6e341ea824bd

silk jetty
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I still think that randomizer mod should start you off with some geo

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at least enough for lantern

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or just start you with lantern

fair rampart
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Why is the modinstaller saying Exaltation is outdated?

cunning lagoon
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it do be like that sometimes

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xhuis is mia

fair rampart
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Is the exal shasum wrong?

silk jetty
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for some reason exaltation has to update every time I open the installer and I just accept that

fair rampart
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cuz I didn't even touch that

copper nacelle
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It's wrong

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But no one bothers fixing it

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so it'll stay that way

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Easy

fair rampart
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also, Google Drive is now in a perpetual state of "uploading 1 item", even tho I already finished uploading the changes to the modlinks

ornate rivet
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delete all the mods and it will work

cunning lagoon
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this

fair rampart
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What will happen if I close the page? There's no way it should take even a second to upload a 22 kb file, even with my piss-poor internet

copper nacelle
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just re-upload it

wanton hawk
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Modding Idea
The Godseeker is Shrek. Both versions.

copper nacelle
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your modding ideas suck

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ngl

fair rampart
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Nope, nothing happened

dusky lion
fair rampart
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Just a glitch

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modding idea: its normal HK, but everyone is t-posed

wanton hawk
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Sometimes I post em other places

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Yes, AA your idea is better

fair rampart
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You can t-pose in vanilla, only in a few places

wanton hawk
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Modding Idea
All enemies and bosses now have the sound files of the Collector. All of them. You cannot escape.

fair rampart
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in the hornet 2 fight, and at the beginning of the nkg fight

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are the only 2 places I can think of

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for Hornet 2 t-pose, CDash off the left wall of the arena before Hornet's dialogue triggers

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for NKG tpose, have your inventory open when the camera focuses on the Nightmare Heart

cunning lagoon
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nutty

wanton hawk
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Modding Idea
All soundtracks are replaces with Country Roads.

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Actually no I have a better one

hazy sentinel
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Modding Idea
All participles are replaced with verbs conjugated in third person singular present indicative

dusky lion
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Modding Idea
Italicize text

cunning lagoon
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talking like this from now on tyvm

hazy sentinel
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cedilla48.bmp

dusky lion
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understandable situation to be in

fair rampart
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Modding idea: Verulean the Glitchmaster is final boss

wanton hawk
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Modding Idea
When fighting the Mantis Lords in the Hall of Gods, instead of the music changing to the Sisters of Battle theme, it changes to a version of the Mantis Lords theme that's bass boosted.

hollow pier
hazy sentinel
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didn't realize pete was a massive cunt, anyway seeya

silk jetty
cunning lagoon
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๐Ÿ˜”

silk jetty
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just because I already have god nail build

hazy sentinel
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funny i don't see heavy blow

cunning lagoon
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you don't seem to have longnail either

silk jetty
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yeah

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but I have the best build I can have with 6 notches

hazy sentinel
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hmmmm

silk jetty
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although I could have more movement abilities

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since I only have dj and cdash

cunning lagoon
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๐Ÿ˜

silk jetty
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which has more checks, greenpath of cot?

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*or

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and I can't get to unn

hollow pier
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gpath has 3 if you count baldur shell i guess

silk jetty
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okay

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so how many in cot?

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with just dj and cdash

hollow pier
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at least 2

silk jetty
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well, I can also go into waterways

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and kill ddefender

hollow pier
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fluke too

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if dive

silk jetty
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no spells

hollow pier
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cot has shade soul

cunning lagoon
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[NAIL ONLY] [RADIANT] [HITLESS] [BALLS OF STEEL]

hollow pier
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so i guess 3

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i don't think you can get thorns

cunning lagoon
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you almost definitely can

silk jetty
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I can't check shade soul because no shop key

dusky lion
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you forgot the weeb brackets

hollow pier
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then get it

dusky lion
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ใ€ใ€‘

silk jetty
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need walljump to get up to it as far as I can tell

cunning lagoon
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ใ€ใ€‘

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better?

dusky lion
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yes

hollow pier
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doubt to pay respects

silk jetty
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I looked for a little bit

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and found no way up

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but I might have missed a path

cunning lagoon
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i do believe you can do the spike tunnel wings only

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but dont waste your time trying it

silk jetty
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I can't without having spells

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since you need fireball or shriek right?

cunning lagoon
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i mean the cpeak tunnel

silk jetty
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oh

cunning lagoon
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that'd be your way to get the shop key

copper nacelle
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The cpeak spike hell isn't doable wings only

silk jetty
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yeah, I'm only doing shade skips

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and no other skips

copper nacelle
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You need wings and vs

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or wings and dash

cunning lagoon
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ok

copper nacelle
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unless you count mag skip inventory drop shit

trim python
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what

copper nacelle
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what

fair rampart
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It's the invisible man again

silk jetty
copper nacelle
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quit out

cunning lagoon
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there are many spots like that

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just s&q

hollow pier
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ah good thing isma's would save you there

silk jetty
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also, I got that menu border glitch by inventory diving into a load zone with qol on and I just like keeping it

copper nacelle
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You can also get it if you hit inventory at the same time you get hit by an enemy

silk jetty
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cool

fair rampart
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Your nickname is oddly applicable to this one thread on the steam forum

silk jetty
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lol

fair rampart
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there's a guy who had more trouble with false knight than godhome bosses

silk jetty
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I just realized how useless cdash is without wall jump

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wow, city of tears actually has almost nothing without walljump

fossil oxide
silk jetty
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can't get to dung defender

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can't get up to soul sanctum

copper nacelle
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x

silk jetty
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I tried but I might've been blind

copper nacelle
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it's a bunch of pogos

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How far did you get

silk jetty
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not that far

fair rampart
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You can get DD by pogoing a flukefey

silk jetty
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oh

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I don't want to go through getting those things in good spots

hollow pier
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flukefeys suck for that

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use the second stage of the big guys

hazy sentinel
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your mother sucks got em

hollow pier
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blocked

silk jetty
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at least I still only have nail 0 so I can pogo a bunch of times

cunning lagoon
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no mine

fossil oxide
hollow pier
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also i think flukefeys have a leash and the second stage guys don't

fair rampart
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No, they don't leash

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they just have a timer on their agro

cunning lagoon
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they break the leash whenever they want to tbh

hazy sentinel
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they think it leash like it is but it don't

cunning lagoon
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i dont think they are supposed to follow you to the pufferfish gauntlet in waterways yet they still do

fair rampart
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But the pufferfish gauntlet is a separate room

hazy sentinel
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i dont think they are supposed to follow you to the mask shard then fly through you while you pick it up

cunning lagoon
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ok to the loadzone to the pufferfish gauntlet

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smartass

hazy sentinel
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i dont think they are supposed to follow you off a cliff if you jumped off

frigid gale
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hows modding? good? good.

copper nacelle
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hmmmm

frigid gale
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yes 56

dusky lion
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no need to maggot 56

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for all is well

silk jetty
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fwuck awf 56

dusky lion
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56 has been banned for emoji spam

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_ _

hazy sentinel
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56 banned for using streamable

dusky lion
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streamable yikes

cunning lagoon
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oof oof

dusky lion
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foo foo

cunning lagoon
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@hollow pier double dlkurosh at mick's stream HappyJack

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right after entering mound

hazy sentinel
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what is this language

cunning lagoon
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f#

copper nacelle
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_ _

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wait shit

hollow pier
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klypp'd

cunning lagoon
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did you get both

hollow pier
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klypp'd

cunning lagoon
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๐Ÿ˜Ž

hazy sentinel
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pp

silk jetty
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I just realized that I should go check glowing womb spot

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since I have cdash

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and I doubt that pogoing up to soul sanctum is in logic

cunning lagoon
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man do i have news for you

fair rampart
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Why wouldn't it be?

silk jetty
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because it's extremely hard

hollow pier
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i like adding in things to make the logic possible and then not including it in the logic

silk jetty
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and failing it too hard means you have to go back to a bench

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and upgrading your nail could make it impossible

hollow pier
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what

silk jetty
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wait, does pure nail 2 shot those guys

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well, does nail 3 is a better question because there is no way in hell to get pure nail without wj

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because if you 2-shot the flying guys with nail 3 then you can't get up there with nail 3 and no wall jump

hollow pier
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gw

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chad

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mega

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think

fair rampart
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What part do you need claw for in sanctum?

silk jetty
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to get up to sanctum

fair rampart
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Um

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what

cunning lagoon
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boi u gonna get ur ass blasted by NATHAN

silk jetty
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how do you get up to sanctum without claw or a bunch of pogos then?

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because I see no way

copper nacelle
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what's wrong with pogoing

hollow pier
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pogos are 90% of rando

weak lodge
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what's wrong with pogos

silk jetty
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it's more of this pogo requiring you to get one of the spear throwing guys to cooperate which is annoying

hollow pier
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what

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you only need the sword guy

silk jetty
hollow pier
silk jetty
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wait, I can get to right side without walljump or ddive?

hollow pier
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what

silk jetty
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I thought you needed one of those to get to the right side of cot

copper nacelle
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salubra

hollow pier
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you can get there with literally nothing

silk jetty
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oh yeah, salubra shade skip

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I forgot about that shit

copper nacelle
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wow vs discrimination GWbratWhy

hollow pier
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no

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dark room needs nothing

copper nacelle
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oh

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yeah

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doesn't dark room put you on top tho

hollow pier
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yeah but you always get movement if you have to go dark room ๐Ÿ˜Ž

copper nacelle
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o

cunning lagoon
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game kn GWmemetownOMEGALUL wledge

hollow pier
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and the shade skip is the simplest thing ever with wings

copper nacelle
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yeah

mortal trout
copper nacelle
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u ever watch the video to the end

silk jetty
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nooooo, there goes my 3rd place in 3 categories

mortal trout
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not verified yet tho

silk jetty
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yeah

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but soon I'll need to try to actually get a good run in one of the catagories

copper nacelle
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edgy bop him in all 3 so he's 4th in 3 categories ax2uMS

cunning lagoon
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this

dusky lion
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that

mortal trout
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i want to that 56 tbh zote

silk jetty
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well, p2 was the only pantheon that I actually tried in

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so p3 and p4 will be ez

mortal trout
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i wont have much time next week so you can get back 3rd place soon

copper nacelle
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this but the opposite

cunning lagoon
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what if i get first place and you all go down one spot thinkgrub

copper nacelle
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beating monstah is a myth sorry

cunning lagoon
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or is it

mortal trout
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kurosh if you start running ill have to try

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hard

silk jetty
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who is this broken cup person on p5

copper nacelle
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Kurosh how do you room dupe reliably

hollow pier
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how was that verified so fast

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is xero actually a good mod

copper nacelle
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Xero?

cunning lagoon
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you fucking think i know how to do that

copper nacelle
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yes

hollow pier
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you just jump

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nothing else

copper nacelle
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but how do i not suck at it

hollow pier
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jump gooder

copper nacelle
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it took me 1.5 min

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that's like

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dead run

hollow pier
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yeah but it's only like 30s igt

copper nacelle
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1.5 igt

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and like 2 rt

mortal trout
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now to ping xero for the role zote

copper nacelle
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i had the timer up so i could see when i was getting close to getting it

hollow pier
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you can dupe on 1221 right

copper nacelle
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i think so?

cunning lagoon
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run one hundred and six percent no major glitches

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actually run hundo glitched

hollow pier
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i just duped first try

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what are you doing 56

cunning lagoon
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not all of us are gamers like you

hollow pier
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it's so laggy

cunning lagoon
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still better than one frog

hollow pier
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pretty sure this ke dupe is one of the harder ones

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there's an easy gpath dupe i think

cunning lagoon
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๐Ÿ˜Š

copper nacelle
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try the wk one

hollow pier
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the dark room one

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that's too far and i disabled claw

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give save

copper nacelle
hollow pier
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also on 1118

copper nacelle
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this is 1028

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you'll be fine

cunning lagoon
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found the culprit

hollow pier
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also for some reason i can't move saves ingame

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it doesn't show up

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unless it was a weird one time thing

copper nacelle
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no i can do that on 1221

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and 1028

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but not cp

hollow pier
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i can't even download this save with hk open

cunning lagoon
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hacked by 56 GWmythiFeelsBadMan

hollow pier
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is my file explorer dead

mortal trout
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file explorer rng

cunning lagoon
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bluedgy

mortal trout
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pog

hollow pier
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nerf xero tbh

mortal trout
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still a bad run tho

hollow pier
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we can't have active mods

mortal trout
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imagine the actual mods being as active as xero

hollow pier
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actually just had a 10s load like a boss

cunning lagoon
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thats not good

hollow pier
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actually just had a 7s load like a manager

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yeah no i got this one second try

copper nacelle
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explain

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
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pete is just better

hollow pier
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any fight duped wks

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oh duped chandelier

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also vs no shaman

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this will go well

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also soul gauge broken

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where is my shade 56

cunning lagoon
hollow pier
cunning lagoon
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looks fine to me

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watcher gods

hollow pier
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also i don't know what to tell you 56 just jump

tight field
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can someone send me the mods

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
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my game would run better

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if i unplug my second monitor

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right

copper nacelle
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your gpu seems to be fine

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it's more cpu capped

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so probably not much

cunning lagoon
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dunno just thinking about things that possibly maybe would make it possible for me to run

silk jetty
copper nacelle
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you broke the thingy

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go out of the room

hollow pier
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re enter the room

copper nacelle
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and go back in

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and there's a little light shining from the ceiling

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you can pogo it

silk jetty
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oh

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okay

silk jetty
copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
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yOu cAnT mAkE iT tO sAnCtUm wItHoUt cLaW

silk jetty
cunning lagoon
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i too love getting softlocked at soul warrior

silk jetty
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you ever just kill a vengefly with an elevator

fair rampart
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how do you even softlock at Soul Warrior? do the gates glitch?

cunning lagoon
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yeah when you enter the room from the top there's a chance he doesn't spawn and you softlock

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which is thankfully not a thing that can happen in cp

fair rampart
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from the top?

silk jetty
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how does one do that?

cunning lagoon
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hitting levers through walls

fair rampart
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isn't he already dead at that point?

silk jetty
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oh yeah

fair rampart
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oh

silk jetty
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dash shashing the lever on the right side

cunning lagoon
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which you can't do anymore

silk jetty
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which is why I wish that the downpatch worked for me

hollow pier
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it's an unintended mechanic how can you be mad when the game is so flawlessly coded aside from that ๐Ÿ™‚

cunning lagoon
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soul warrior softlock is the one thing i dont get mad at

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twisters and frogs, on the other hand, piss me off quite a bit

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also dung defender

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also tyrant and, to a lesser extent, sm

silk jetty
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dung defender is annoying to fight without ddive

cunning lagoon
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so rng in general

fair rampart
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WD hitbox rng

cunning lagoon
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yeah hold on let me search for it

fair rampart
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tf

cunning lagoon
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these two are pretty funny

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but check this out

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this one is just

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all 3 on the same fight

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very good boss

hollow pier
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losing time GWbratWhy

fair rampart
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I just meant how his shockwaves randomly don't have hitboxes 50% of the time

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this is worse than I thought

cunning lagoon
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even with this

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sanctum soul master and tyrant are significantly worse

fair rampart
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I was using WD to test my CMelody+JBlessing interaction

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trying to get hit

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and the shockwave kept passing thru me

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I could just stand still

cunning lagoon
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i'd take bad dd hitboxes over bad sanctum rng any day of the wekk

dusky lion
fair rampart
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IKR?

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Attention span of a potato

cunning lagoon
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hornet is te most unfair boss i have ever fought in a video game

dusky lion
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hornet ends gaming careers

cunning lagoon
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i wish they nerfed her

dusky lion
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Hornet isn't so hard? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a boss with such agility and quickness? Hornet puts the game on another difficulty level, and we will be cursed if we ever see a boss so challenging again. False Knight ends runs. Gruz Mother ends runs. Hornet ends your gaming career. You can keep your hardcore boss battles. I prefer games that are fair.

fair rampart
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beat me to it

cunning lagoon
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dpad or analog stick

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hint there's a correct answer

fair rampart
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stick

cunning lagoon
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any other guesses

hollow pier
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neither

dusky lion
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analog stick

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or

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keyboard with mouse

hollow pier
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xxxxxxxxxxx

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XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

dusky lion
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yes

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keyboard with mouse

hollow pier
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xxXXxxxxxxXxxxXXXXXXXXxxxxxxxXX

dusky lion
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kb+m

cunning lagoon
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keyb GWfroggyPoggers ard with m GWmemetownOMEGALUL use

dusky lion
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what creative use of imagery

fair rampart
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๐ŸŽน ๐Ÿ

dusky lion
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๐Ÿ€

fair rampart
#

that's a rat

#

not a mouse

cunning lagoon
#

not with that attitude

dusky lion
#

kurosh understands

silk jetty
#

๐Ÿ

dusky lion
#

i like your attitude

copper nacelle
#

:mouse1:

#

Why is there mouse 2 but no mouse 1

dusky lion
#

๐Ÿ and ๐Ÿญ

cunning lagoon
#

any streams

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
#

smash huh

dusky lion
#

leffen yikes

cunning lagoon
#

who is winning

#

who are you rooting for

hollow pier
#

amsa

cunning lagoon
#

is that the non asian guy

hollow pier
#

no

cunning lagoon
#

is that the asian guy

hollow pier
#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

not racist

fair rampart
#

world's greatest detective

silk jetty
#

I just discovered that noclipping out of the room with the bench before hornet 2 is weird

dusky lion
#

everyone in this world is guaranteed to be asian or not asian or partly asian

cunning lagoon
#

this is a correct statement

frigid gale
#

is it

#

y

#

e

#

s

dusky lion
#

im patently good at failing shorthops in melee

cunning lagoon
#

wtf what a stomp

dusky lion
#

the yoshi won with 3 stocks left

#

๐Ÿ˜ฉ

cunning lagoon
#

not even close

dusky lion
#

babyyyy

#

marth is dead

cunning lagoon
#

what if one of them farts and the other one laughs lmao

fair rampart
#

WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?

dusky lion
#

marth is dead [2]

cunning lagoon
#

the bald guy is mew2king

#

haha i know my things

hazy sentinel
#

the bald guy is ryan letourneau

cunning lagoon
#

nl true end when

#

Axe2u

#

who is the best character

hollow pier
#

fox

cunning lagoon
#

why doesn't everyone use him

hollow pier
#

everyone does

cunning lagoon
#

not these 2 nerds

hollow pier
#

well you see

#

characters are actually good and bad against each other

#

fox is the best overall

cunning lagoon
#

suboptimal characters GWmemetownOMEGALUL

hollow pier
#

and has the most potential

cunning lagoon
#

hows smash as a speedrun

hollow pier
#

marth beats fox

dusky lion
#

a skilled roy can beat any fox

hollow pier
#

how do you run smash

cunning lagoon
#

i dont know thats why i ask

hollow pier
#

you can run like adventure mode or something

#

or the challenges i think that's a thing

cunning lagoon
#

they just need to get good

#

do they know which character the other guy is picking

hollow pier
#

every player has a main

#

and a secondary

#

or other characters they can use

cunning lagoon
#

whats the lore of this game

hollow pier
#

uhh

cunning lagoon
#

why do they fight

hollow pier
#

i think

dusky lion
#

I am exclusive to Shulk unless they add another Xeno rep

hollow pier
#

someone put all of them in some world

#

and they want to leave the world

#

or something

#

no one cares about smash lore

cunning lagoon
#

D:

dusky lion
#

subspace emissary

cunning lagoon
#

wavedashing is celeste tech

#

so they need to change the nanmek

dusky lion
#

no

#

wavedashing is rivals of aether tech

#

so celeste and melee need to change the name

cunning lagoon
#

its hk tech

hollow pier
#

wavedashing is wavedash tech

cunning lagoon
#

why can they only play in 6 maps

hollow pier
#

all the other ones are banned

#

not competitively viable

cunning lagoon
#

๐Ÿ˜”

hollow pier
#

they either have hazards that affect comp play

#

or are just bullshit

dusky lion
#

pokefloats ๐Ÿ™‚

hollow pier
#

even pokemon stadium is pretty iffy

cunning lagoon
#

but it adds spice to the games

dusky lion
#

rng

cunning lagoon
#

i love rng ๐Ÿ™‚

#

they should play with items too ๐Ÿ™‚

dusky lion
#

understandable situation to be in ๐Ÿ™‚

hollow pier
#

pretty sure the only stage without any rng/jank is fd

#

and fd sucks

cunning lagoon
#

final destination?

hollow pier
#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

i know things ๐Ÿ˜Ž

#

1v1 fox only no items fd

hollow pier
#

well i guess you can't really say rng for yoshi's since randall is consistent

cunning lagoon
#

ax is better at smash than hk

#

he has a pretty clean pikachu

dusky lion
#

why main pikachu when you can main pichu

cunning lagoon
#

main kirby :D

#

when does armada play

hollow pier
#

armada retired

cunning lagoon
#

damn

#

what about thetim2

hollow pier
#

he sucks

cunning lagoon
#

๐Ÿ˜”

dusky lion
#

armada's young link weary

cunning lagoon
#

when does m2k play

hollow pier
#

he's out

cunning lagoon
hollow pier
#

he got 3-0d twice

cunning lagoon
#

what a nerd

hollow pier
#

nice

cunning lagoon
hollow pier
#

axe leffen GWfroggyMonkaMega

cunning lagoon
#

who is the best player atm

hollow pier
#

sadly hbox

cunning lagoon
#

why sadly

#

is he in this tournament

hollow pier
#

everyone hates how he plays

#

yes

#

you'll see he's up next

#

against mang0

#

who everyone loves

cunning lagoon
#

i see

ornate rivet
#

is it possible to make a particle damage the knight? @copper nacelle

#

adding damagehero as a component doesn't do anything

fair rampart
#

are they on they correct layer?

ornate rivet
#

what are layers

silk jetty
#

why would you want a particle to damage you

#

that would be evil

ornate rivet
#

shush

#

it looks really good but I cant get it to damage the knight

#

what are layers reeeee

#

are layers where in the Z axis the sprites are?

silk jetty
#

uh

#

pretty sure that's what layers means sfhTHINK

hollow pier
#

oh they're doing loser's qf before wf

cunning lagoon
ornate rivet
#

Nope, the particles still dont damage even when I put the knight and the particles on the same Z axis

fair rampart
#

Isn't their a particle collision hook?

compact sedge
#

I don't think particles have rigidbodies

ornate rivet
#

I added that

#

should I add a boxcollider2d or something too?

compact sedge
#

you added it to the particle or to the particle generator?

#

yes

ornate rivet
#

uhh idk

compact sedge
#

it needs a box collider as a trigger collider I think

ornate rivet
#

what does that mean

#

how do I make a boxcollider a trigger collider

#

go.AddComponent<BoxCollider2D>().isTrigger = true;

#

?

compact sedge
#

add the component like BoxCollider2D bc = go.AddComponent<BoxCollider2D>();

#

and then

#

bc.isTrigger = true

ornate rivet
#

ok

#

thunks

cunning lagoon
#

this game has a banger ost ngl

hollow pier
#

mangoBanger

cyan peak
#

tuch0Guess who may or may not explode onto the HK modding scenetuch

hollow pier
#

dlkurosh

cyan peak
#

me

cunning lagoon
#

no its dlkurosh

#

i hear he already made a mod to unbreak a floor

#

nuts

hollow pier
#

more useful than half the mods

dusky lion
#

wow its Fyre#1234

#

modding hk is significantly harder than rain world

cunning lagoon
#

should this name ring a bell to me

dusky lion
#

no

cunning lagoon
#

ok

dark wigeon
#

Nah fsms make it totally 100% easy

cunning lagoon
#

so why they playing if they are already out

#

for fun?

hollow pier
#

what

cunning lagoon
#

hm i understand how it works now

#

so they are not out of the tournament yet

hollow pier
#

it's double elim

cunning lagoon
#

epic

#

is a tie possible

#

in this game

hollow pier
#

you can have both players die at the same time

rain cedar
hollow pier
#

so it goes to the game's own tiebreaker but i don't think they use that

#

they just replay a onestock game or a whole game i think

#

it almost never happens

cunning lagoon
#

what about if the time runs out

hollow pier
#

then it's decided by whoever has less percent

cunning lagoon
#

ah

hollow pier
#

timeouts suck in this game

#

you have someone take the percent lead and run away

cunning lagoon
#

sounds lame

hollow pier
#

yes

cunning lagoon
dusky lion
#

shush

cunning lagoon
#

explain

hollow pier
#

explain

dusky lion
#

NotGianrocco#8393 is a mod on the Hollow Knight Discord server in which I was trying to refer to them in general but was unaware of the fact that I am in modding

cunning lagoon
#

what a moron

dusky lion
#

darn

cunning lagoon
#

i have conflicted feelings

#

seanpr or epic smash tournament

hollow pier
#

both

cunning lagoon
#

maggotMaggot

silk jetty
#

do you think that ddive location is the worst possible spot for wall jump in a rando when you only have shade skips on or is there a worse spot

hollow pier
#

claw at scloak is pretty terrible

cunning lagoon
#

hiveblood

hollow pier
#

claw at dive is fine

#

and hiveblood that sucks too

silk jetty
#

okay

young walrus
#

You have to have wings to get up to soul master. So shud be fine

#

Wings is basically like having claw

silk jetty
#

to some extent

#

if the room you need claw has flying enemies then yes

young walrus
#

There's a lot of objects you can pogo

#

Shade skips are rarely needed

silk jetty
#

yeah

#

I guess

#

wait, are there any shade skips that require you get have 6 masks that you could ever do?

young walrus
#

No

#

All shade skips are with base hp

#

And only spore shroom and crystal heart require one

#

Shade cloak too. But by then you can probably shade dash underneath

silk jetty
#

god damn it this randomizer is linear as fuck

#

it started with being able to get 2 things, cdash and dj

#

then it was just wall jump -> ddive -> dream nail -> dash -> isma's

#

well, I guess dnail can be got at any time after ddive

#

which is probably pretty rare

young walrus
#

It's not

#

All spells are in play

#

There's only 1 dead spot and no spells can be there

silk jetty
#

I'm saying that it's probably pretty rare to have all 3 without getting the shade versions of any of them

cyan peak
#

yeah finch you wouldn't know... you haven't modded RW

#

at least nothing impressive

#

inb4 someone tells me to fuck off until I finish the game

young walrus
#

Entering a discord and being pompous and trying to pick a fight..... Sounds like a good idea to me

cyan peak
#

What I said about Finch is true, and I'm not attempting to pick a fight

#

once my RW EXPANSION buglist is worked out I'll be looking at HK

dusky lion
#

fyre i havent said anything here in an hour

trim totem
#

finch explain

dusky lion
#

khan i cant im just as lost as you are

cyan peak
#

I responded to your last message directed toward me finch

trim totem
#

are you tho

cyan peak
dusky lion
#

fyre i would know however

#

because i havent released a rw mod that isnt just devtools yet

#

i still have green lizard snakes

cyan peak
#

wow, removing legs is so hard

dusky lion
#

wow thats definitely all i did

cyan peak
#

naw dawg I'm cool with your modding

compact sedge
#

you haven't made a hk mod either hollowdab

cyan peak
#

release it already tho it looks fun

#

HAHA AA busted

#

nice

dusky lion
#

im not going to release it until its finished

compact sedge
#

hey finch

dusky lion
#

yes angle

compact sedge
#

I remember 4 score and 7 years ago when you were doing ascended god gorb

#

what happened to that

dusky lion
#

eventually

cyan peak
#

finch protip don't be elitist until you can match my flex

dusky lion
#

care to explain when i was elitist

#

i would love to know

trim totem
#

finch make a boss upgrade mod

cyan peak
#

finch make literally any mod

dusky lion
#

care to explain when i was elitist

#

i would love to know

compact sedge
#

I have no idea about rainworld but you're big in the modding community there? What kinda mods have you done? do you have a github repo?

cyan peak
#

hold on one sec

compact sedge
#

srs questions, I bought the game a week ago and am interested in that kinda stuff

cyan peak
#

that's our modding site

dusky lion
#

question is still on the table

#

dont call me arrogant and then beat around the bush

cyan peak
#

and ~ I'm only listed as the author for around half the mods I've been involved with

compact sedge
#

wow that's infinity fancier than our "modding site" which isn't even really a modding site.

cyan peak
#

haha

#

we got some cool folks maintaining it

compact sedge
#

We got me maintaining mine

#

and I really like the radiance

cyan peak
#

by cool folks I mean the top dog modder since like ever

compact sedge
dusky lion
#

i never finished that and never will

compact sedge
#

but uh, I'm still curious if you have a github

cyan peak
#

and keep in mind that's not a coding mod so I still don't know his claim about hk being harder to mod

#

how do you mean aa?

compact sedge
#

like

#

just a general question because the terraria peeps got me thinking about it

#

How open is the rainworld modding scene? Like how much do y'all share code with eachother?

cyan peak
#

we've got around 6 or so talented coders who help out regularly

compact sedge
#

like uh, the more I think about it the more I realize the hk scene is sorta an enigma but the reason that this of all games got me into modding is like, I'm pretty sure and I might be wrong but every single mod on the modinstaller is open source (and the mod installer itself is open too, as well as the website on which the installer is hosted, and the documentation for the mods).

cyan peak
#

I mean we got some secret spoopy stuff indev, IE my mod that I'm in the middle of bugfixing which is approx the same size as the game

compact sedge
#

meanwhile a game like terraria has quite a few open mods, but there's also a large number of devs who refuse to because they are convinced people will rip them off.

Place rainworld on a scale for how open it is.

cyan peak
#

I mean all of our mods are effectively open source because you can just dnspy them

#

and regularly do so, we don't reuse other's code though

compact sedge
#

yeah, same with every other mono/unity game. But copying someone's code you read in dnspy isn't legal nor ethical.

cyan peak
#

pastebin always looks at my mods and tells me how stupid I am for coding a certain way

#

then fails at a similar mod may I add

compact sedge
#

might I recommend the software program called git?

#

pastebin for verson control seems uh.. interesting

cyan peak
#

ah, paste is a user

compact sedge
#

oh

#

huh

cyan peak
#

by most accounts completely insane

silk jetty
#

does anybody have the glass soul mod?

compact sedge
#

it's in the google drive I think

#

But yeah. It wasn't always this way, but for the past year at least it's been like this: Everyone who has ever made a mod for HK except the first people took code from others. Nearly every piece of code is licensed so you are allowed to take it only if you make your mod open as well. So now we have:
https://github.com/FoldingPapers (papers)
https://github.com/TTacco (ttacco)
https://github.com/x753 (753)
https://github.com/KayDeeTee (kdt)
https://github.com/seanpr96 (sean)
https://gitlab.com/gradow (gradow)
https://github.com/Kerr1291 (kerr)
https://github.com/5FiftySix6 (56)
https://gitlab.com/natis1 (me)
etc etc.

cyan peak
#

interesting

#

we don't see code stealing in the RW community

#

I've given permission for people to take my(/qs's) radial menu code

silk jetty
#

I'm guessing that I can't use glass soul mod on anything after 1221

#

since that's the newest version

compact sedge
#

(This is basically all possible because of the gpl which makes code stealing into code sharing. It basically says: you can use this code for anything you want so long as you share the code that you're using with others. It causes a cascading effect that ends in everyone working to help eachother indirectly make the best mods ever which at the end of the day is what modding communities want)

#

so yeah, my code for changing the notch costs of something without hurting save files has been ripped off about 4 times, but that's just 4 mods that were made better through my contribution, and in turn I can take any of those mods' code for my own projects.

young walrus
#

Another example is the hp bar mod

#

The boss hp Bars was rolled into the mod that gives hp bars for all enemies

compact sedge
#

I took hp bar code for combo mod and redwing and in turn those mods provide lots of code that hollow point and exaltation use

silk jetty
#

are there any mods that work on versions later than the one listed?

young walrus
#

What're you looking for

compact sedge
#

not glass soul except I think 56 made a meme version of glass soul in like 12 seconds for the newest version

silk jetty
#

does it still have the damage ups?

cyan peak
#

drain I'm not an HK modder as of yet but I would not expect mods made for a specific version to work in a newer version

young walrus
#

They dont

#

In most cases

cyan peak
#

forgot the not

compact sedge
#

glass soul comes from the days of modding the assembly with dnspy

#

which is not compatible across versions

#

now we have an api

cyan peak
#

we just recently got out of that AA haha

silk jetty
#

damn

cyan peak
#

Zandra the godsend gave us Partiality

silk jetty
#

does the version of glass soul that 56 made give you damage ups with extra health?

young walrus
#

No

silk jetty
#

well fuck that

#

I would just use lightbringer if that didn't completely change how the game works

compact sedge
#

back in the dnspy days all the mods were closed source because they had to be because you can't distribute decompiled versions of the assembly csharp without getting in trouble. The transition wasn't instant either. It happened around a couple months between the release of the first and second content packs for hollow knight.

#

it's like, 1 extra dmg per extra mask it's really not worth it @silk jetty

#

it's token at best

dusky lion
#

just die yourself if you get hit once

silk jetty
#

yes but is it worth it if you have joni heart heart and core

#

with 9 masks

young walrus
#

Dunno if it counts charm additions

cyan peak
#

man I need to finish the game I can't tell if Adrain is being stupid or not

compact sedge
#

joni's heart is a real thing yes and so is lifeblood core

#

and there are 9 masks total in the base game. 16 mask shards each being 1/4th of a health bar

#

plus the base 5

silk jetty
#

according to 56 in seans stream the mod counts the lifeblood from charms

compact sedge
#

yeah I think it just looks at the max hp variable

silk jetty
#

the old version

#

does lifeblood increase the max hp variable?

compact sedge
#

honestly I'm too lazy to dnspy it and compare it to the unmodded binary

#

because downpatching

#

is effort

cyan peak
#

what's that utility that compares assemblies automatically?

compact sedge
#

maybe @buoyant obsidian by some miracle remembers if his 1 year old mod did so

silk jetty
#

maybe 753 still has the code for the mod and can make a new version Kappa

buoyant obsidian
#

What's the question?

silk jetty
#

if glass soul increases damage with lifeblood

compact sedge
#

did the original version of glass soul count lifeblood hearts

#

for dmg that the player deals

#

I forget much more important stuff about my 4 month old mods so glhf remembering

buoyant obsidian
#

Yeah

#

it did

silk jetty
#

cool

compact sedge
#

playerdata.maxhp includes lifeblood hearts or no?

silk jetty
#

hey 753 do you still have the code for glass soul and the ability to make a version for current update Kappa @buoyant obsidian

cyan peak
#

hey Adrain as a modder, admittedly not an HK modder ~ in my experience if you ask for an update you'll never get it

silk jetty
#

Kappa

buoyant obsidian
cyan peak
#

or very late ~ Beastmaster took me way too long to get back to

buoyant obsidian
#

I think it might be bugged though

dusky lion
#

Does this toadstool of logic mean I can just ask for MSC 1.5 and it will never come

cyan peak
#

naw finch MSC is lookin 75-80% complete don't ye worry

compact sedge
#

first mod I've ever seen with the TakeHealthHook

buoyant obsidian
#

yeah they never accepted my pull request

compact sedge
silk jetty
#

welp, guess I'll not be able to use it because getting code off of github requires a lot of work

cyan peak
#

Mate

#

what you just said is...

compact sedge
#

well the hard part is compiling the code

#

by far

silk jetty
#

yeah

cyan peak
#

and that's easy

compact sedge
#

cuz it means downloading visual studio or w/e

cyan peak
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

silk jetty
#

that's what I meant

compact sedge
#

and who has time for that

silk jetty
#

I don't have time for that at all because my internet is shit

cyan peak
#

I believe Adrain meant "I don't know what to do with raw code and don't feel like asking or learning"

compact sedge
#

lifehack. save time by downloading monodevelop instead which is a much smaller download so it will go faster, then spend 5 hours learning how to use monodevelop to compile projects and waste all the time you saved.

cyan peak
#

I dislike monodevelop

compact sedge
#

I uh would die without a real ide

#

I use jetbrains rider tho tbh cuz I have a school account so I don't have to pay for it.

#

if I did have to pay tho I would die cuz it's like a bazillian dollars

silk jetty
#

so which version of visual studio do I download?

cyan peak
#

I thought you said brazillian and was thinking brazillian currency is in a slump that should be really cheap

#

community

dusky lion
#

the only one that is free

compact sedge
#

^

#

to both of these

cunning lagoon
leaden hedge
#

hes not wrong though, the hardest part of compiling the code is downloading visual studio

#

considering the other 2 steps are double clicking a file, and then clicking the build button

flat forum
#

@leaden hedge

#

what happened with NGG2?

#

Is it going to be like DeadHallownest?

frigid gale
#

mmm

leaden hedge
#

cba trying to fix unity not loading sprites from assetbundles

#

also my hdd died so I had to reinstall windows on a new drive and apparently taking ownership of files /folders, from an old version of windows doesn't work automatically, so you have to manually add your new account to the permissions which takes forever

#

and I cba moving my unity folders over

cyan peak
#

man drive deaths suck

#

which is why I don't buy deathgate drives

leaden hedge
#

meh it was 1.5tb drive thats been between 70 and 90% full for the last 10years

#

and its been really slow the last 2 years so it was bound to just rip at some point

#

atleast I could get the important stuff of there like my Steam Auth and my switch/3ds/wii u nands

compact sedge
#

honestly

#

backups

#

I learned the hard way 2 weeks ago

#

they god and easy to do

leaden hedge
#

how am i gonna back up terabytes of data ๐Ÿค”

cunning lagoon
#

just copy them lol

compact sedge
#

don't have terabytes of data

#

geeze my backup came out to like 15GB and that has all my music

leaden hedge
#

I mean i had 300gb of mugen stuff alone

compact sedge
#

the sum total of all my original content is like ~300MB

leaden hedge
#

like 99% of that isnt mine

#

but a large percent of it is super awkward to get

cunning lagoon
#

i might be done with ig until someone beats me

cunning lagoon
#

i literally just got a 13068 GWchadMEGATHINK

#

i guess ill upload this one since the 13069 didnt have sound

warped sinew
#

I'm thinking about doing an "absolutely destroyed"series on youtube where i just go all out on the bosses on radiant. I started with abrad because why not.

#

its pretty much the sibling to the All Bind series but this time no restrictions

ember bloom
#

I think i should finally learn multiple hits combo

warped sinew
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oh you just reminded me of the combo mod

solemn basin
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That sounds like work.

warped sinew
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i gotta start using it i always forget about it

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@solemn rivet hey I was thinking in the mod manager program you made I think it would be good to add the authors name next to the mod like Invert Knight (by 56)

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I know the readmes are there but most ppl wont read them

solemn rivet
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that's a nice idea, Graig

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AA I'm gonna credit you as AA, ok?

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cause I'm a lazy pos and don't wanna rebuild and reupload the installer

hazy sentinel
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Avenging AnglEnable

cunning lagoon
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no one made lost lord

solemn rivet
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it is known

floral furnace
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Lost Lord was so Lost even the author was Lost ๐Ÿ˜”

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copper nacelle
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loss lord

fair rampart
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Wait, AA and AA are both credited as AA?

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asks AA

leaden hedge
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AA1 and AA2

fair rampart
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electric boogaloo

leaden hedge
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Energizer AA and Duracell AA

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sponsored skins for mods, tc pls send me 10k rp for my good idea

floral furnace
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City of Tears plastered with Coca Cola ads when

fair rampart
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rp as in roleplay or rp as in rupee? I assume the latter, but I need to be sure

leaden hedge
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riot points

fair rampart
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close enough

leaden hedge
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its a meta joke

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some guy made a post about how they should make a mastercard twisted fate skin, because mastercard sponsored worlds

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and apparently mastercard gave him 10k rp ๐Ÿค”

floral furnace
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before, or after the idea

fair rampart
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seriously?

leaden hedge
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after the idea

fair rampart
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that's a thing?

leaden hedge
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usually no

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because it'd lead to people spamming every possible skin combination, and if riot did happen to make that, people would be like wheres my rp ๐Ÿค”

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although they aren't even gonna make a mastercard twisted fate so

fair rampart
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I've never heard of this

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Apparently I need to spend even more time on the internet

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somehow

ember bloom
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League in 2k18

fair rampart
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How would a mastercard skin even work?

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Would your character literally be a credit card?

leaden hedge
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twisted fate is a mage

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that throws playing cards at people

fair rampart
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Ohhh

leaden hedge
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he'd have credit/debit cards instead of playing cards

floral furnace
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NGL that actually sounds like a rad id- no

leaden hedge
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the opponents would be stunned by the great savings they could have with a MasterCard โ„ข credit card

floral furnace
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the entire river should just have a repeating PS4 banner/ad over it as the texture or something

ember bloom
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I'm amazed Twisted Fate got still same set of skills

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Maybe except Passive, don't remember if its same

leaden hedge
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well his E moved to his R in beta but otherwise I don't think anything has changed

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oh his passive did change, it used to give +2 gold per kill for everyone on the team, its now 1 to 6 per kill for just tf

ember bloom
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kay

ember bloom
fair rampart
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That is epic

ember bloom
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Mega gey at best since code isnt ready and testing and fuck fsm

fair rampart
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Are you able to cast spells as Shade?

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Like, just limit casts to 1(like Soul binding), and have the Voidheart eyes light up when you have a cast available

floral furnace
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are you directly altering the files or just your regular dll?

fair rampart
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I just realized that the wiki doesn't list health values for the Shade

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Like, it's not even that they have the wrong values

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They just don't have them period

ember bloom
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Textures are handled by files for now, i created dedicated resource file for it

fair rampart
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Does the Shade's number of casts increase as you complete more Vessel Fragments?

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I know Mask Shards affect it's health(tho I'm not sure by how much), but I've never thought about Vessel Fragments

copper nacelle
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no it can cast forever iirc

fair rampart
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Oh, I was thinking it starts with 1 cast, and gains a cast for each Vessel

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There is a value called ShadeMP or something like that in the assembly